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Speaker 1: It's a podcast called twenty five Whist Stocky Sports and

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Speaker 1: they wear a whist, so yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's too bad, But what did you expect.

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Speaker 3: It's a podcast called twenty five Whist Souls Wheel. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 3: we're international? Can we watch hockey? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Right, right, right?

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Speaker 3: Hello? Is that Australian? That's a good point?

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Speaker 4: Was Canadian?

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Speaker 3: But uh a, uh yeah, we're gonna talk to Pierre

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Speaker 3: Maguire in a second. We've never actually done a hockey segment,

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Speaker 3: but he's a former NFL NHL executive and coach and

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Speaker 3: current analyst. And did anybody else wake up and watch Heck, yeah,

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Speaker 3: me too?

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Speaker 2: You did you watch live too?

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Speaker 5: I got nine month old twins at the same time,

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Speaker 5: so I didn't really have a choice, but yeah, I

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Speaker 5: whole thing.

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Speaker 3: I felt I'm an extreme casual, not gonna act like

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Speaker 3: I'm not well for hockey for America pretty end. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because of the tournament they had at the NHL is

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Speaker 3: All Star weekend when they did the Battle of the Countries.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like I feel like I kind of know

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Speaker 3: following you know, uh, Connor McDavid. Yeah, and like he's

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Speaker 3: been losing the two he's like the best, and who

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Speaker 3: does he played for well Canada, but he lost the

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Speaker 3: last two Stanley Cup Championships. But he was MVP from Canada. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: we're talking a lot of idiot here. Oilers. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: Edmonton Canada, Edmonton oilers. So but we are going to

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Speaker 3: talk to Pierre maguire in just a second. That's cool

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Speaker 3: because that's what's up. But it was it was fun.

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Speaker 3: Huh did you ever?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: It was awesome. Do you ever watch the games with Pierre,

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Speaker 3: like on the ice or anything. Do you remember those

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Speaker 3: at all?

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Speaker 5: Or no? When he was working for NBC, I don't feel.

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Speaker 5: Guys are crazy that are down there, the announcers that

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Speaker 3: What do you mean, Pierre?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Pierre. When you want TV, you never

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Speaker 3: watch hockey. Okay, guys, I can't see the puck, no.

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Speaker 6: But see.

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Speaker 2: But for a time though, there was a little tracer.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember that.

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Speaker 3: I loved that? Well, I did love it, but I

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Speaker 3: did if it came on, I liked that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't chase hockey because I don't know much about it,

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Speaker 3: but I did watch anything America's. It's like soccer. I

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Speaker 3: definitely get into it when we're all come yeah, and

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Speaker 3: at least we have a shot in hockey. We don't

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Speaker 3: have a shot in soccer. We won women's and men's

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Speaker 3: gold it's awesome. Did you watch the women's one too?

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Speaker 7: Did?

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Speaker 3: I just watched the overtime ol That's all I watched too,

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Speaker 3: I'm being hon Yeah, yeah, watch the whole thing, just

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Speaker 3: third period in overtime. Yes, yeah, and it was an

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Speaker 4: I was awake.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing on at seven am, and so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you watch any No, I did not, just

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Speaker 3: It's cool man that you know they go to three

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Speaker 3: they played seven on seven flag football at the end.

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Speaker 3: For it was intense. Yeah, and I can understand people

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Speaker 3: They had to win by a three on three, and

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Speaker 3: they won that one by three on three. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: we know about hockey, so we're gonna wait to get

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Speaker 3: there with him. But it was cool, it was awesome.

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Speaker 3: It's cool because we won if they just made the

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Speaker 2: So it is hockey your favorite event of the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: It probably has to be because it's what I knew

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Speaker 2: What you watch most of too.

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Speaker 3: Snowboarding is cool.

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Speaker 3: No, I've never done that, never played hockey, but I

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Speaker 2: Have you never gone skiing?

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Speaker 3: Huh?

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Speaker 6: I mean neither.

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Speaker 2: You would like that, but but then now we're older

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Speaker 3: Fall anyway, probably hockey, Yeah, I did. I didn't watch

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Speaker 3: half minute routine after she's been awesome. But I didn't

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Speaker 3: watch that Liveah, I'm kind of opposer. I'm a casual,

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Speaker 3: casual American win Winter Olympics now, and I know very

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Speaker 3: much American casual with the Olympics there, So yeah, why

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Speaker 3: don't we just do a couple of things, and then

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Speaker 3: we'll go to somebody who actually knows about hockey. Yes,

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Speaker 3: because college basketball is happening. We're loving it. It's great

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Speaker 3: right now. Had a bunch of good games this past weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really good games. The top four teams playing each

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Duke beat Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Duke beats Michigan Duke.

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Speaker 3: It was a pretty good game at the very beginning

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Speaker 3: of the season. But nothing matters at the beginning of

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Speaker 3: the season so much. But yeah, and then Boozer's good.

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Speaker 3: His brother's pretty good too, but he's really good. He's

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Speaker 3: probably first or maybe second overall.

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Speaker 4: Pick. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now there's the top three, right, Kansas kid b Yu

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Speaker 3: and him the Kansas gett even planned. He's checking out

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Speaker 3: of every game. Is that crazy? Yeah? What are you saying, Eddie?

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Speaker 2: Oh no? And then Arizona to beating Houston. Yeah, just

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Speaker 2: the way lined up. Watch again, I'm getting.

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Speaker 3: Ready for although I could have put our money with

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Speaker 2: Here's the deal. I send you a note a little

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Speaker 2: bit too early. So like Saturday, dude, I dominated UFC.

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Speaker 2: I won probably eighty five percent of the fights.

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Speaker 5: Wait wait, wait, you're gambling again. Yeah, okay, yeah, just

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Speaker 2: UFC man in usc I was likely. Let me just

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Speaker 2: put some money on this too. I hit everything I hit.

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Speaker 2: I think one five game basketball Parlay, No Namers Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: Why are you betting No Namers?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: To me, I just feel like the big ones are

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Speaker 3: You don't even watch it?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'll watch him. And that's when never wanted

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Speaker 2: to track him down. Well, my wife walks in and

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Speaker 2: much money do you have on this?

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Speaker 3: Nice?

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Speaker 2: But I so? I dude, I was probably up one

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Speaker 2: McElroy man ruined it for me. I thought for sure

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Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't watch anything.

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Speaker 4: Who won?

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Speaker 3: But how much you bet on that?

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Speaker 2: I bet twenty bucks on Rory to win and then

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Speaker 2: about halfway through Rory had two birdies. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: he's got to win this. Put twenty more so I

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Speaker 3: Back on that. That's that's that's a lot of you significant.

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Speaker 2: And then Nascar. I started putting money on all these drivers.

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Speaker 3: Because he's just u s and then golf and then NASCAR.

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Speaker 2: In college basketball, Tyler Reddick, may he wins another one?

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Speaker 3: He did. I thought it was a repost.

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Speaker 7: I saw that.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a repost of that. He won

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Speaker 2: Of I'm thinking, out of all the drivers, he's not

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan wins again.

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Speaker 3: To wow, did Michael grab kids butt again?

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Speaker 4: And they did not do that?

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Speaker 2: He wasn't near the kid.

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Speaker 3: I saw where Cooper cups NBA Cooper Cup, Cooper Flags

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Speaker 3: a million bucks.

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Speaker 2: Wow, he didn't play that well that game.

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Speaker 3: But still Yeah, he didn't start as hot as Knipal did.

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Speaker 3: But now he's awesome. Cap is still really great too.

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Speaker 3: How the dude didn't win the national championship? Both those

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Speaker 3: Cooper Flag his game warn game one one million dollars.

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Speaker 4: My bad.

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Speaker 3: The previous record for a jersey sold through NBA auctions

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Speaker 3: But Cooper Flags. I think I'd still probably rather have

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Speaker 3: One million bucks. Dang, you watching much NBA.

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Speaker 2: A little bit?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well, just last night in the Lakers, Boston lost on

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Speaker 2: I was chasing. So after Rory lost, I'm like, come on,

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Speaker 3: Some money back. Do you see the guy the poker

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Speaker 3: it's a it's a viral clip that's going back around again.

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Speaker 3: But he's sitting at the table younger guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's an older clip, but it just I

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Speaker 3: But turns out his name is Justin Smith. You want

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Speaker 3: one one million dollars? This has been a while ago.

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Speaker 3: He went all in, but he tore his a cl

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Speaker 3: because he was celebrating with his family. He kept playing

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Speaker 3: in the tournament. He put his leg up, iced it.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, he play the club, tear the.

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Speaker 4: Board, back to back double water fights, Justin Smith growing

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Speaker 4: out both times. Man to stay alive.

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Speaker 2: Look how excited that he is, his fans, his friends.

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Speaker 4: To wait a minute, manch something's wrong out there.

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Speaker 3: We'll operate it on tomorrow. There's something very wrong.

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Speaker 2: He's doubled over.

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Speaker 3: He's he's really in pain. Yeah, it's snou What the

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Speaker 3: this is no bluff. Let me tell you injury.

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Speaker 7: I called you. I called you this injury sport.

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Speaker 4: They said that poker is not a sport, but this is, well,

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Speaker 4: this is pretty serious. People are rushing to Justin's side.

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Speaker 3: I'm really hoping it will be okay. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 4: I'll play it all turnman, officials will stopped the clock.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was new when it happened. But it's

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Speaker 3: funny regardless.

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Speaker 6: Nice to visit with the Bobby. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: I want to tell you up front, I am a

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Speaker 3: Okay, So we were having a little discussion about you

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Speaker 8: The best team? Who ever won. I've gone through this

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Speaker 8: These great American players, Mike Richter, the legendary goalie that

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Speaker 8: And the truth is is that, you know, the Kachicks

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Speaker 3: But these guys have to play together all the time

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Speaker 6: And so would I like to have three on three?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: That way either. So there's always going to be.

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Speaker 6: Has nothing to do with politics.

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Speaker 8: I don't mean any disrespect to Ukraine, to Russia, out

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Speaker 8: The truth is that Sydney was really a big part

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Speaker 8: through the middle of the ice is hard to beat.

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Speaker 8: Crosby centering a line with Mitchell, Marner and Mark Stone

445
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Speaker 8: hugely important line fourteen Canada. Crosby goes down in the

446
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Speaker 8: quarterfinal game against CHECKI after a hard hit by Rad

447
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Speaker 8: Cogutis of the Anaheim Ducks, the captain of that team,

448
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Speaker 8: by the way, and quite frankly, Bob, they Canada was

449
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Speaker 8: never the same team after they lost SID.

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Speaker 6: They just were not. SID is such an important part.

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Speaker 8: So if you think about it, twenty ten scores a

452
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Speaker 8: goal and goal twenty fourteen the leader of another goal

453
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Speaker 8: medal winning team, and he and Drew Dowdy were the

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Speaker 8: only two guys that were on this team Canada that

455
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Speaker 8: had any kind of Olympic experience, and it was both

456
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Speaker 8: times winning gold medals. They didn't have anybody else in

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Speaker 8: that team that had ever played in the Olympics.

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Speaker 3: Back in the day, Johnny Elway had lost a bunch

459
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Speaker 3: of Super Bowls way early. It took him a while

460
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Speaker 3: to come back and actually win a Super Bowl. But

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Speaker 3: I feel like with Connor my David in the last

462
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Speaker 3: two Stanley Cup finals and winning the silver. He did

463
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Speaker 3: win the MVP, but I don't think that I don't

464
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Speaker 3: think that probably matters to him. It's been a rough

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Speaker 3: run for him as far as winning championships or gold medals.

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Speaker 3: What do you think is Tyke's like right now?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 6: I feel badly for him.

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Speaker 8: First of all, he's an unbelievable He's probably the best

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Speaker 8: player we've ever seen at doing what he does, traveling

471
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Speaker 8: at a high rate of speed with the puck on

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Speaker 8: his stick, and still being able to process the game

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Speaker 8: the way he does. As much of a goal scorer

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Speaker 8: he is, he's a better playmaker. He's to do that

475
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Speaker 8: at that rate of speed, almost thirty miles an hour

476
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Speaker 8: and be able to process the game the way he

477
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Speaker 8: does is just overwhelmingly amazing. He's obviously got a field

478
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Speaker 8: mentally beat up a little bit. It can't be fun.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 8: I've coached in two Stanley Cup finals and was fortunate

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Speaker 8: enough to be part on the winning side twice. And

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Speaker 8: I got to just tell you this, Bob. I said

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Speaker 8: once to a person that's a very good friend of mine.

484
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Speaker 8: I said, I could never imagine going this far over

485
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Speaker 8: the course of a season and losing.

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Speaker 6: And I've never had to experience that.

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Speaker 8: He's had to do it two times in a row,

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Speaker 8: plus lose an Olympic gold medal game. That's got to

489
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Speaker 8: be just painful, unbelievably painful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's got to be very painful. If I were

491
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Speaker 3: a candidate. I wouldn't have wanted the little stuffy they

492
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Speaker 3: were passing out. Did you notice that that they were

493
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Speaker 3: giving out the little stuffed animals.

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Speaker 6: I don't really cat, thank you, So when they.

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Speaker 3: Were giving them the silvers, they were passing out the

496
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Speaker 3: little stuffed animal with the silvers. You know, I think

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Speaker 3: you read the room, and maybe you don't. You don't

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Speaker 3: give the stuff. Also, they left them out there way

499
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Speaker 3: too long. I feel like, if you lose, you should

500
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Speaker 3: be able to go back into the locker room and

501
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Speaker 3: then come out. That sucks to have to sit out there,

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Speaker 3: regardless of who you are.

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Speaker 8: No, it's a fair point. It is a fair point.

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Speaker 8: I've been in the World Championships a lot. They do

505
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Speaker 8: the very same thing. It's agonizing, there's no question. Same

506
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Speaker 8: thing happened in the women's game. By the way. You know,

507
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Speaker 8: you go to overtime and you lose a game, and

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Speaker 8: if you're Canny, you're sitting there and if you're Mary

509
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Speaker 8: Philip Pulan, probably the best female player in the world

510
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Speaker 8: and for sure the best Canadian woman ever. You see

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Speaker 8: her reaction, I mean, she's just so beaten down. Is

512
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Speaker 8: painful to watch, and so yeah, it's you know how

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Speaker 8: they used to say the agony and defeat, and you

514
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Speaker 8: could see the agony defeat yesterday.

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Speaker 6: That was tough to watch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt bad for them having to stay out

517
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Speaker 3: there the whole time because there was a good fifteen

518
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Speaker 3: minutes where they could have walked back into the locker room. Also,

519
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Speaker 3: something else had a beef with they should have had

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Speaker 3: the third place team out there, like you should have

521
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Speaker 3: been waiting to come out and accept your bronze medal.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 8: Part of I think I could be wrong on this

524
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Speaker 8: part of it is a lot of those players that

525
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Speaker 8: were on the finished team, their NHL players. As soon

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Speaker 8: as they got their medals, they probably moved on. They

527
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Speaker 8: probably really moved on to their NHL teams. The NHL

528
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Speaker 8: schedule starts in full on Wednesday night, so to get

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Speaker 8: from me long, let's say too, for the sake of argument.

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Speaker 6: La or Santalse, it's not around the corner.

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Speaker 8: So I think a lot of the guys and ladies,

532
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Speaker 8: by the way, once their events were done, they bolted

533
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Speaker 8: because the Professional Women's Hockey League starts again soon too.

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Speaker 8: So I think that's probably why you didn't see that

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Speaker 8: with the bronze medal winning team.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious the culture of playing for your country in

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Speaker 3: the Olympics, because, as you know, in American basketball, some

538
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Speaker 3: of the guys just don't want to do it, and

539
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Speaker 3: they're like, you know, I don't want to do it.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to go play for the USA team

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Speaker 3: because it's too much work, so they don't do it.

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Speaker 3: Does that happen at all in you in international hockey

543
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Speaker 3: or does everybody really want to play for their national team?

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Speaker 6: They want to play for their national team. I'll tell you.

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Speaker 8: After the twenty fourteen Olympic Games in Sochia, I was

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Speaker 8: there and I was about to get on our charter

547
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Speaker 8: back to the United States, and an NHL official came

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Speaker 8: up to me in the lobby of the hotel right after,

549
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Speaker 8: you know, the Americans had been eliminated. Cannon ends up

550
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Speaker 8: beating Sweden in the gold medal game, and this NHL

551
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Speaker 8: official said, I hope you enjoyed this Olympics. I go,

552
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Speaker 8: why is that? He goes, NHL is never coming back.

553
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Speaker 8: I said what I said, Nope, We're not coming back

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Speaker 8: to the Olympics anymore. I said, well, that's really shortsighted.

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Speaker 8: I think that's a massive mistake. In my thirty seven

556
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Speaker 8: years in the National Hockey League are being around it.

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Speaker 8: I've never once been angry at the league. I was

558
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Speaker 8: really angry at the league for that, and they didn't

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Speaker 8: go back in twenty eighteen, and they didn't go back

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Speaker 8: in twenty twenty two. I can tell you one of

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Speaker 8: the things they used in collective bargaining the NHL players

562
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Speaker 8: and the NHL to get to this labor armony we

563
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Speaker 8: have now is he put a lot of the rests

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Speaker 8: about Olympic participation. The players, to a man, wanted to go,

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Speaker 8: and if they couldn't get back to the Olympics, they

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Speaker 8: probably were not going to have the labor harmony that

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Speaker 8: they have right now. So good on the players. They

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Speaker 8: really are passionate about representing their countries. They don't get

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Speaker 8: paid to do this, and I think it's fantastic. I

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Speaker 8: love Olympic hockey and I'm really proud of the both

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Speaker 8: American and Canadian women and the American and Canadian men.

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Speaker 8: They put on two amazing performances in gold medal games,

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Speaker 8: all four of those teams.

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Speaker 3: What I found interesting watching yesterday was during the face off,

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Speaker 3: they would then get the Canadian guy off like, he's

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Speaker 3: so good, you have to tell me all about that,

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Speaker 3: because they would you face off, and they would you

578
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Speaker 3: just ran off the ice, especially during the three on three.

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Speaker 3: Is he that good at that?

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Speaker 8: Well, you're talking about Sam Bennett or Bullhorvet. They're both

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Speaker 8: pretty good at face off. So the answers, yes, Uh.

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Speaker 8: The Americans do this very same thing with Vinnie Trocheck.

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Speaker 8: So the answers, yeah, they call them fogos and lacrosse.

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Speaker 6: And so yeah, that's stuff. Stuff happens face off, guys.

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Speaker 6: It's become pretty prominent.

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Speaker 8: Puck possession matters a lot in three on three, so

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Speaker 8: winning the initial draw helps a lot.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned if you fight during the Olympics, you're out

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Speaker 3: of the game. So are there no need for the

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Speaker 3: what I enforcer type players at the Olympics?

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Speaker 8: There I have as far as I know, and I've

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Speaker 8: been going to the Olympics since two thousand and two.

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Speaker 6: This is an eighth one I've covered.

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Speaker 8: I would just tell you straight up, Bob, there's never

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Speaker 8: been just a thug that's been going. I'm on an

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Speaker 8: Olympic roster. They can't, they can't play at that level.

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Speaker 8: So you need physicality, you need tough.

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Speaker 6: Guys you need.

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Speaker 8: Guys are going to perform certain roles when comes to checking.

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Speaker 8: But in terms of just one dimensional players that are

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Speaker 8: thugs now they don't play in the Olympics.

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Speaker 3: Can you talk about the American goalkeeping performance yesterday because

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Speaker 3: it seemed like that was pretty legit.

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Speaker 6: What a great question.

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Speaker 8: Connor Hallibuck from Alpina, Michigan, thrilled to dead played at

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Speaker 8: UMass Lowell. Never a highly recruited player, played in a

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Speaker 8: real high level league Hockey East in US College Division

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Speaker 8: one hockey.

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Speaker 6: So happy for him.

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Speaker 8: He's never really had a chance to win at the

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Speaker 8: NHL level, even though he's had unbelievable individual awards like

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Speaker 8: three ves in the Trophy, he's an MVP of the

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Speaker 8: league and all that stuff. It's amazing. His resume looks

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Speaker 8: great except for the winning part. I think we can

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Speaker 8: put the bed now the doubt that he can't win

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Speaker 8: the big game. That performance just today was all world

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Speaker 8: It was as good as any Olympic goaltending performance I've

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Speaker 8: seen since nineteen eighty with Jim Craig. That was just

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Speaker 8: a fantastic piece of work by Connor Hallibakina's family and

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Speaker 8: all this teammate should be so proud of that.

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Speaker 3: This is going to be a dumb guy question, but

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Speaker 3: do goaltenders usually have great vision? I mean, like literal vision.

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Speaker 3: Is that a part of it?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely?

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Speaker 8: If you really watch and you're trying to scout goalies,

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Speaker 8: that's one of the things you watch for. How they

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Speaker 8: track the pluck, how they read the play, can they

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Speaker 8: track long shots?

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Speaker 6: Can they what's their reaction time? Intight? One of the

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Speaker 6: cool things, Bob.

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Speaker 8: If you really want to watch, and I know a

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Speaker 8: lot of TV people do this, watch how Connor Hellibuck

633
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Speaker 8: prepares before a game. He'll sit on his bench and

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Speaker 8: he'll just do eye muscle exercises. I'm not kidding you,

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Speaker 8: and you'll track things and you'll see him moving his

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Speaker 8: head and moving his eyes, moving his sead and moving

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Speaker 8: his eyes. It's unbelievable to watch. So the answer is, yes,

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Speaker 8: vision really matters for goalies.

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Speaker 3: As far as gold medal games, how does this ranking

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Speaker 3: games that you've seen.

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Speaker 8: As good as I've ever seen? Twenty ten was phenomenal

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Speaker 8: in Vancouver. The pressure on the Canadians to win, especially

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Speaker 8: in their own building, was huge. The fact that the

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Speaker 8: Americans came from behind and force in overtime was mammoth

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Speaker 8: and then you had the you know, the drama of

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Speaker 8: the Sydney Crosby golden goal in Vancouver. You know, like

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Speaker 8: I said, I've coached in a lot of big games.

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Speaker 8: I've broadcast sixteen straight Stanley Cup finals, do any Olympics

649
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Speaker 8: a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 6: That reaction in Vancouver was pretty special. So those are.

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Speaker 8: Probably two of the better male games I've seen. The

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Speaker 8: twenty fourteen women's gold medal game and SOCI was off

653
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Speaker 8: the charts. It was unbelievable, great come from behind win

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Speaker 8: for Canada. The twenty eighteen women's goal medal game in

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Speaker 8: Korea was crazy good with the Lamberers sisters Megan Duggan

656
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Speaker 8: performing so well, Maddie Rooney and netfor Team USA, they

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Speaker 8: wanted to shootout. So this would be right up there

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Speaker 8: with all of the great Olympic games I've had a

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Speaker 8: chance to watch. Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: So tell me about your podcast. It's called The Sick

661
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Speaker 3: This is what I have written in front of me,

662
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 3: The Sick Podcast, the Eye Tests. What's the name of

663
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 3: is it the Sick Podcasters of the Eye Test?

664
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 6: The name of our show is the eye Test.

665
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 8: The Sick Podcast Network is who we work for at all,

666
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 8: and so it's actually.

667
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 6: Jimmy Murphy and I started that three years ago. It's

668
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 6: been fun.

669
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 8: I also do another one for One Team Media in

670
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 8: Pittsburgh called Inside the Game, and it's been phenomenal to

671
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 8: be a part of that company, and so I enjoyed

672
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 8: doing it.

673
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 6: It's fun.

674
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 8: I love talking about hockey. I love trying to build

675
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 8: the brand of the sport, and I did it for

676
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 8: a long time and I don't want to stop anytime soon.

677
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 8: I just really loved being around the game and trying

678
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 8: to tell stories about people in the game.

679
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 3: Well, I hope everybody checks out the eye test, and

680
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 3: I bet you there'll be a lot of people listening, because,

681
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: like I'm super interested now right. I think this was

682
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: good for me as an American to learn more about

683
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 3: hockey because I normally don't. I did go. I'll tell

684
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 3: you this, I did go. I've been to some Preds

685
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 3: games and I did go to Game seven when the

686
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 3: Preds loss to Pittsburgh, and as a pretty brutal that's

687
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 3: a pretty brutal day, coach, I'll be honest with you.

688
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 8: I was broadcasting that game, so I remember Clears Day.

689
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's okay.

690
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 3: That kind of sucked. It's a bad day around here. Yeah,

691
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 3: not a good experience for your boy here, Coach, thank

692
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: you so much for being on. I hope I did

693
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 3: okay and asking questions. It didn't make me seem like

694
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: a complete idiot.

695
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 6: Bobby.

696
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 8: You guys had my number now, Mike can get in

697
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 8: touch with me anytime.

698
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 6: Be my pleasure to come on your show. I really

699
00:28:59,360 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 6: enjoyed it.

700
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Thank you, coach. I have a

701
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 3: great rest of the day. Eddie thinks that we may

702
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: have been going too hard on you cabin. Oh, okay,

703
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: change the guard here.

704
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: I'd like to apologize.

705
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: Okay, what about we?

706
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: I think we made too much fun of you over

707
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: your compass tattoo.

708
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: Now we I almost never did. I almost never did.

709
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: No you did.

710
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: I remember on the golf course, I didn't even know

711
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: about it. Where did that ball go? Can you check

712
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: your compass on?

713
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 3: You had that compass tattoo on his leg and Eddie

714
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: would bring attention to it and make fun of it

715
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: a lot. That was like two years ago, So that

716
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: was a while ago.

717
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: We were staying in San Francisco. I looked at he

718
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: was like wearing shorts and I go, dude, what's happening

719
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: with your tattoos?

720
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: As you were lost right and you were like, I

721
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: need to find any way back to the hotel.

722
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: See there it is, there it is, And he goes, yeah, man,

723
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: I'm getting it removed. I'm like what, I'm so sorry.

724
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: Do you think it's because of you?

725
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 7: Yeah?

726
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: We made fun of you.

727
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 6: Yeah.

728
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: Oh no.

729
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 5: I've had this for what ten years now, I've gotten

730
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 5: a lot of flak for it.

731
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. I have one on each calf

732
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: and full transparency. I don't like either of them.

733
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 5: I get the other one removed because it's color and

734
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 5: you can't remove color fully. If I'm gonna do it,

735
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna do it unless it's fully. So it

736
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 5: has nothing to do with you, guys. It's just now,

737
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 5: or a couple of years ago. When I started this,

738
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 5: I had a little extra money and I was like,

739
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 5: you know what, I think it's time and it's taken

740
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 5: a long time and a lot of pain.

741
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: Oh it hurts, Oh my god, so bad worse than

742
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: getting it. Yes, And the more sessions you go, like,

743
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: the deeper you get in it, the worse it gets,

744
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: so like it gets deeper and deeper. They tell you that,

745
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: are you worried that because it's going away, you're gonna

746
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: get lost? Going to get it removed? Sometimes I worry

747
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: about that, But they have GPS.

748
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: Now I was going in the right direction.

749
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: Last time I knew where I was going. It's so gone.

750
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: Oh crap. Why'd you get a tattoo anyway?

751
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 5: I was in your spring break? No, yeah, I was

752
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 5: in Greece and I was like, I want to get

753
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 5: a tattooed. And I was like, cool, travel and compass,

754
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 5: And then the next thing though, yeah, and then the

755
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 5: next day I went and got it, and then it's like.

756
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 3: Man, I probably should have thought about that a little

757
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: bit more.

758
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: It was like, you're a traveler, that's what it's significed.

759
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you know. It's one of those cliches.

760
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 3: Things were like, yeah, that's something a good idea, and

761
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: then you get in you're like, yeah, this is cool,

762
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,239
Speaker 3: and then like a couple of months later, you're like,

763
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: it's all right, what's on the other calf the California?

764
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: Do you like that? Or you that's okay? Could you

765
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: turn it into like Tom Brady's face or something? What

766
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: you turn it into if you had to. I don't know.

767
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 5: Those are the worst. Can I make a suggestionful tattoos? Yeah,

768
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:30,239
Speaker 5: the Obrian Trophy, the Dave O'Brien, the NBA NBA Oh,

769
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 5: I guess the same.

770
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: Shape, like you could turn it in. Put the Celtics

771
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 3: something around Celtic eighteen time and then every time they win.

772
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 3: I get in ad you just do yeah, like slots

773
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: that is, that's not a bad idea. Actually people do

774
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: something like that.

775
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 5: I did see a Cowboys fan get there, gonna get

776
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 5: one covered.

777
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 3: He got his back covered the other day. It's his

778
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: Chiefs on it.

779
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 4: Now?

780
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: Does that? What happened?

781
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 5: And you had a cow it's a Cowboys on the top,

782
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 5: like his whole bad and then it had a helmet

783
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 5: of the Cowboys on his back and he got it

784
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 5: covered up and it's a big chief now and then

785
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 5: it's not Kansas City Chiefs.

786
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 6: Yeah.

787
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: Why did he twitch teams? I don't know. It didn't.

788
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: I just saw the video. I didn't look too much

789
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: into it.

790
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 4: Got it.

791
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was funny.

792
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: You know, like two of my kids they like there

793
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: are two that are Cowboys fans. They're always going to

794
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: be Cowboys fans. But there are two that like just

795
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: depends on who's good. Oh, Seattle's doing good, we're gonna

796
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: be Seahawks fans. And I have a heart, Like I'm

797
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: trying to tell him how important it is to not

798
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: grow up like that. Like, guys, you don't want to

799
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: be like that. You're not gonna have friends growing up.

800
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: If you become a fan like that, that changes teams

801
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: all the time, right, Isn't that okay?

802
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 3: So I would say yes, But if you were in

803
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: a place where you had a winning team and you

804
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: had an allegiance to that winning team, that would be

805
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: your team. They are unlucky to live where the Titans

806
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: are during their formidable years, and the Titans suck. Yeah,

807
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: so they might be a little bit because they have

808
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: friends whose dad's player because they're down the road, but

809
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: they're not gonna be dire Titans fans because they suck.

810
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: You're a Cowboys fan, right one, because you're in Texas.

811
00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: But they were winning when you were a kid.

812
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but still we're still but they.

813
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: Were winning, you don't know, and they have access to

814
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: all games.

815
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 4: Now.

816
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 3: You didn't have that growing up. You had one channel,

817
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 3: two channels that showed So it's just it's different. And also,

818
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: if the Titans were really good and they were really

819
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 3: swept up in it, I think that would matter too.

820
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: Okay, But but at some point they have to stop

821
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: changing teams, right, Yeah, Like I.

822
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: Get to an age they don't have to do You

823
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: like that guy that like shows up to the no,

824
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 3: But I don't have a guy in my life that's nine.

825
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. I know, but that's what

826
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Like, I thought you were a Cowboys fan. Nah, dude,

827
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: I don't like the Texans now.

828
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 5: Man, what's the worse the guy that like keeps switching

829
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 5: teams or the guy that doesn't have a team but

830
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 5: makes fun of your team when he loses.

831
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 2: The guy to switches teams?

832
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: Really because I don't have a team.

833
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you don't like, But I don't make fun

834
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 5: of you, don't make fun of I lose so much with.

835
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: All my teams. I always feel bad for people when

836
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 3: they lose. Yeah, if I had, like if I was

837
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: an Ohio State fan, maybe be different. But I lose

838
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: all the time.

839
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: You're right, man, you have a lot of opportunities to

840
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: make fun of me for being a Cowboys fan. But

841
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: you don't I cry for you with you. Yeah, I

842
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: appreciate empathy. It's very nice.

843
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: Nobody loses more than me. It sucks. Yeah, I did

844
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: see a car today.

845
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 5: I had a Brown's logo in Ohio state like tang

846
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 5: and Browns fanily at least Ohio.

847
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yeah, I don't have any. I don't have

848
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: any of those because I'm a Cubs fan.

849
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 4: We won once.

850
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: What are you thinking about your your Razorbacks basketball team?

851
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 3: Did you guys win?

852
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 4: The other night?

853
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 2: I was watching a little bit of which Wow, Missouri

854
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: they want?

855
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we want? Okay, Yeah, it's crazy because I didn't.

856
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: I don't bet. I'll bet Arkansas games, but I will

857
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: if they're a favorite. I'm never betting the spread because

858
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to be happy they won but sad

859
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 3: they didn't cover. I would never do that. And they were,

860
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: I believe a ten point favorite or maybe nine and

861
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 3: a half. And Missouri scored the most garbage bucket with

862
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 3: one second left to now yeah, arcas, I did even

863
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 3: play defense. They were just like it's over. So they

864
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 3: were just dribbling down. Whatever Missouri guy goes and shoots,

865
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 3: the lay up makes it. And I could see some

866
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: people being like, oh, but that's why I don't, because

867
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: I don't want there to be any smart anger in

868
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 3: my heart. I think that we It's first of all,

869
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: I think we win the championship, but really I think

870
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: we could make it to the lad eight if everything

871
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: we have a top five player in the country, regardless

872
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: of freshmen or not. Does that Brazil or now Darius Aka? Okay,

873
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 3: so yeah, one of our best players have got hurt. Well,

874
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: one of our contributors just got hurt, Carter knocks. But

875
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 3: I think that we could. We could make it to

876
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: the lead DA if we did a decent draw.

877
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 4: Okay.

878
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: So that's where your expectations are as of right now.

879
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: I don't have expectations, okay, but.

880
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: If you were forced to say something, that's you would say.

881
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: If I were going to bet how far that we

882
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: would go? I would go Elite eight. Anything past that

883
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: amazing the bonus.

884
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, are you gonna go to the SEC tournament at all?

885
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 5: It's here again, I assume it's here.

886
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 4: It is.

887
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 3: I've never not gone. That's true, and we'll probably as

888
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 3: long as we play. We play Florida. They're really good.

889
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: They're they're leading the SEC. We're second they're first, but

890
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: they're up with two games. Uh, they're really good, and

891
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: we play them in Gainesville I think Wednesday. Yeah, CC

892
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 3: is good. Yeah, we're good. I mean Arkansas's good. That's good. Yeah,

893
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 3: Tennessee is getting good now, like they're kind of growing

894
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 3: that it meant freshman, Yeah, he's he played terrible against US.

895
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 3: He was just like fish out of water, but now

896
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: he's starting to be played really well. Who else Vanderbilt's

897
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 3: good in Spurts they're just too white.

898
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 2: Hmm, you mean like you mean like that.

899
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just don't have athleticism, they don't have big

900
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: they're just they're just they're just too slow something.

901
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: I see what you're saying.

902
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it makes sense. Ye, it's all like

903
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 3: one or two. But it's like Perdue, Like Perdue always

904
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: plays well until they got to play somebody that's actually

905
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: has real athletes.

906
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: Remember that Princeton team a couple of years ago. They

907
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: went pretty far into you know, they.

908
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 3: Played slow, they played they just played back and played

909
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: slow and keep away. You know, you only have so

910
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: many white guys. Yeah, it's true.

911
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

912
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,479
Speaker 3: What you are You.

913
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 4: All right?

914
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: Speaking of basketball, let's talk to NBA Hall of Fame

915
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: guard Tim Hardaway. It's Tim Hardaway Senior. Now, yeah, because

916
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: the Sun plays. But he's got a book called Killer Crossover.

917
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: He's known for his crossover. Back in the day, NBA

918
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 3: Jam played it with him. Five time All Star, the

919
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 3: Heat retired as number ten Jersey. What's crazy. I don't

920
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: think of him as a Heat player. I think of

921
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 3: him as a warrior player. See and I only think

922
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 3: of him as a Heat player. Yeah, age, big thanks

923
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 3: to Tim for coming on here. He is Tim Hardaway Sr.

924
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 3: Let's welcome on, Tim Hardaway Senior. He's got a book

925
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 3: called Killer Crossover. I just want to start so I

926
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: don't forget to say this, Tim, I played with you

927
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 3: on NBA Jam all the time, like you and Mullin.

928
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: I've played with you guys all the time. Do you

929
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 3: hear that from people in a certain age range?

930
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 7: Yes, we do.

931
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: You could dunk, you could shoot whenever you were playing ball.

932
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: Was that cool for you guys?

933
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: You know what people to say. I could dunk on there.

934
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: I've seen myself dunk on there. I played with myself

935
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: on there with Chris and Mitch. I have seen other

936
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: people play with us, and you know, it's a lot

937
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: of fun. It is a lot of fun, and a

938
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: lot of these guys and they real big fans of

939
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: doing those video games and all that. When I see

940
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: them working their stick or working them with their thumbs

941
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: and they hands and all that, it's amazing because you know,

942
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: we went out there and played basketball, you know, our thumbs.

943
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: A lot of guys had to stop playing it because

944
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: carpor tunnel or or or you had your thumbs and

945
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: everything was hurting.

946
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 7: So, yeah, you had to be careful.

947
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: With that growing up in Chicago, and you end up

948
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 3: going to utub which I don't I don't know why

949
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: you chose you tip. I'm sure there are a lot

950
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 3: of reasons. But was the dream to go to the

951
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: NBA was just to play college ball because that was

952
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 3: the next step.

953
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: So when I was coming out of high school, I

954
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: was was not recruited. I was not recruited. Not one

955
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: Division one team recruited me. Not even Division two team

956
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: recruited me. They thought I was too small, and I

957
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: never went to camps that All American Camp, Nike All

958
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: American Camp, or this camp here or that camp there.

959
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 7: You had to have sponsors, as they used to call them.

960
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: You had to have some people that would was, you know,

961
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: paid three four, five, six, seven hundred dollars for you

962
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: to go. I didn't have nobody that that would pay

963
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: for me to go. And I never asked nobody to

964
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: pay for me to go, because if I thought I belonged,

965
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: I thought that somebody would send me or somebody would

966
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: sponsor me. So I just left it alone. So I

967
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: stayed at home. It was the best of both worlds

968
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: for me. I stayed at home and played with guys

969
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: like Ricky Green that was with you know, the Golden

970
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: State Warriors or the Utah Jazz. Then I played with

971
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: guys with like Mo Cheeks and Doc Rivers and all

972
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: overseas guys Carl Knicks. You know, I played with those

973
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: guys all the time during the summer, so I was

974
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: I was really learning professional basketball when I was playing

975
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: with these guys in Chicago at different parks, different rec

976
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: leagues and stuff like that. So when people came back

977
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,959
Speaker 1: and they was they came back and had all this gear,

978
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: all this Nike gee, all this deepest gear and all

979
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: this and all that.

980
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 7: I didn't have none of that.

981
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: I just had my just a little small bag and

982
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: I was just going out here playing. They was like, man,

983
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 1: what you doing. I said, Man, I'm playing against real pros.

984
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm not playing against these other guys y'all going for

985
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm playing against real pros. And I'm holding my own

986
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: against real pros. And they're like wow. And you know,

987
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: as I got better, as I got better, they saw

988
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 1: and they was like, you know, we probably making a mistake.

989
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 6: You know.

990
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 7: But a guy named Russ Bradford used to keep in

991
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 7: touch with me. He's from Chicago, from the North Side.

992
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: And somebody said, yo, man, you know you need to

993
00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: look at this guy named Tim Harder.

994
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 7: I think he'd be good for textall Passo. And he was.

995
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: He was an assistant coach, and he was a scout that

996
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: Texas old Passle and he can't even watch me play

997
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: all summer along, all summer alone for about two summers,

998
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: and he watched me and here and I was the

999
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: last guy that Don Haskins went to go and recruit,

1000
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: watching me at practice, watching me at a game, and

1001
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: he offered me a contract.

1002
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 7: That's how I got to l Passle.

1003
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: And and you know, it was a blessing in disguise

1004
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: because I need to get away from Chicago. I need

1005
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: to get as far as well from Chicago and do

1006
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: my own thing and find my own path and find myself.

1007
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: And the Old Passo was the greatest place. It's well

1008
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: kept secret. And I keep telling folks that if you

1009
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: want to get away and get your mind together and

1010
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: get your life together, go to l Pastor.

1011
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 7: They great people, genuine people. You don't have to worry

1012
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 7: about nobody.

1013
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: Lying to you, stealing from you. They take care of you,

1014
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: that listen to you to help you. And it's just

1015
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: genuine there. Man, just really really genuine there. It was

1016
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: just great for me. I tell folks that all the time.

1017
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: They're like, what Old Passo texts. I'm like, yes, So

1018
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: that's how I got the Old pass On. And I

1019
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: just had to wait my turn. You know, Patience is

1020
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: a virtue. I just wanted to go show people that

1021
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: I could play Division one basketball. And it was right

1022
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: out the gate. We had Georgetown come up l Passo

1023
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: and play us. There was number one team and I

1024
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: was the only one that could get through the press.

1025
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: And as a freshman, I was controlling the tempo and

1026
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: I only played about twelve minutes, but I was controlling

1027
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: the tempo and I was making plays for my teammates

1028
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: to run offense, So it worked out very well. You

1029
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: just got to know what it is you need to

1030
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: do and just be patient about doing it.

1031
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: To me, I was a big fan again of you

1032
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 3: guys back in the day because I did play with

1033
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: you on NBA JAM. So then I would try to

1034
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: watch as many games as I can watch with you guys.

1035
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: But it seems like with you and Maulin and Richmond,

1036
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: like if you guys could have stayed together longer, like

1037
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 3: I feel like there could have been some real titles there.

1038
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: Do you feel that way?

1039
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 7: I definitely feel that way.

1040
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: I definitely feel that if we would have kept Mitch,

1041
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: that we would have been able to contend for a title.

1042
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: I tell people that all the time. You know, I

1043
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: just wish we was together and Nelly would have just

1044
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: kept that core together and we were able to build

1045
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: around us because we had some good guys. We have

1046
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: some good teammates and we you know, each year, we

1047
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: knew what we need to do and how.

1048
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 7: We needed to do it.

1049
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: And I think when we lost to the Lakers, we

1050
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: kind of knew the next year exactly how to approach

1051
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: the next year and how we need to play and

1052
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: what we need to do to get better and to

1053
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: make it further in the playoffs, and it never happened.

1054
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 3: Was that something you voice to, you know, your coach Nelson, like,

1055
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: what's going on here? Or was it above even him?

1056
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 7: Right?

1057
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: Well, you know it was him. He pulled the trigger

1058
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: on it, and that was that. We didn't have no

1059
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: say so any we knew after the fact. He called

1060
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: Chris Mullen and myself in the room after he made

1061
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: the trade and it was over. We had to deal

1062
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: with it. And that's the way things you know, happened

1063
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: back in the day. You know, you had to you know,

1064
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: they made a decision and you had to deal with

1065
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: it and just go.

1066
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 3: It feels like the players now have pretty much all

1067
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 3: of the power in the league. Do you feel like

1068
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 3: that wasn't the case back when you guys were playing.

1069
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 7: That wasn't the case. That was not the case.

1070
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 1: You know, Michael Jordan didn't even have power over the Bulls.

1071
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: It was all Jerry Crouse. Jerry Krouse made that team.

1072
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: Jerry Krouse built that team, you know, the same way

1073
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: with Pat Rolly. He built the team and in Miami

1074
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's still doing stuff. He don't

1075
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: go into asks a team or the players. You know

1076
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: what he needs and what he thinks is best for

1077
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,959
Speaker 1: them or you know what they is best for the team.

1078
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: He just go out there and thinks was best for him,

1079
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean for them and make it happen, you know,

1080
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: And you can't be hasty about it. You know, you

1081
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: got to really think about long term, what your team

1082
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: is going to have long term is it's going to

1083
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: be short term, It's going to be right now. You know,

1084
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: when he got Shock, it was right now. You know,

1085
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't like two years or three years. We got

1086
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: to win this thing right now, and they wanted right now.

1087
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: That's what made it a big deal when he traded

1088
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: for Shaq. Get to know what you're getting into, and

1089
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: you can't be hasty about I.

1090
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 3: Wrote a couple of books, and when I wrote my books,

1091
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: through a lot of things that came up that I

1092
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 3: kind of forgotten about. Not that didn't happen to me,

1093
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: but you're just reliving some stuff. You're like, oh, yeah,

1094
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: I didn't think about that. I write that, Like in

1095
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 3: your book, did you have any of those moments where

1096
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: you're going, man, I didn't think about that in a

1097
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Speaker 3: long time, and it kind of reintroduced you some of

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Speaker 3: his all memories all the time.

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Speaker 1: All the time I'm talking about it, you know, I'm

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00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: thinking about it. And as I'm writing about it. The

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00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: guy that helped me out, Jake Uddy, really really helped

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Speaker 1: me out. And when he was talking and asked me questions,

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00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: I was going back and I was like, oh, you know, wait, wait, wait,

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00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: wait wait. You know, matter of fact, last week when

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00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: we talked and we said this, and we said that,

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00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted I missed out on this important

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00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: component about this piece that I wanted to say. And yeah,

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00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: it went back and forth, back and forth. And then

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Speaker 1: when you really, you know, editing reading, you know, you

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00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: go back three, four, five times and read the same paragraph.

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00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: Did you want to make is it saying what you

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Speaker 1: really wanted to say? Is getting that message the way

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Speaker 1: you wanted to get get it out? It was interesting,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's very interesting. Was it was cool to

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Speaker 1: me to go back and relive a lot of things that.

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Speaker 3: I forgot about going to the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: What was that like, Man, I tell you this, First

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Speaker 1: of all, getting picked for the Olympics, they come to

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Speaker 1: you and say, hey, you're gonna be on the Olympic team.

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Speaker 1: That's special. That's very special. It's not you know, getting

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Speaker 1: picked for the All Star team. This is getting picked

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Speaker 1: for your country and you represent your country out on

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Speaker 1: the basketball court. And there's twelve guys, thirteen guys, really,

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00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: twelve guys that have to come together and put their

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Speaker 1: egos aside and check their egos at the door and

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Speaker 1: have to come together and play as a team.

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Speaker 7: Not an All Star team.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about as a professional team that you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be with for about forty days, fifty days, and from

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Speaker 1: day one at practice, you know, it's about us, It's

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Speaker 1: about USA. It's not about Tim hard Away, Gary Payton,

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Speaker 1: Jason Kidd, Vince Carter. You know, we know we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have some guys on the team that's going to excel

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Speaker 1: each and every game. We know we're gonna have some

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Speaker 1: guys that's going to play well. But everybody has to

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Speaker 1: go out there and do their job and understand what

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Speaker 1: their job is.

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Speaker 7: We knew that very very quickly.

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Speaker 1: That's why we was able to go out there and

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Speaker 1: play well and win the goal. So it was great,

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Speaker 1: you know, just spending time with those guys.

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Speaker 7: They built us in Australia.

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Speaker 1: They supposed to built us a nice hotel, but it

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00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: was a small hotel where they we had small rooms.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't difficult, but it wasn't what we was a customer.

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Speaker 1: We dealt with it and understood that that was it,

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Speaker 1: and we dealt with it.

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Speaker 3: I love the book cover. How many did you go

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00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 3: through before you picked that? You know, it's it's basically

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00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 3: two pictures. You do it a crossing over. But it's

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00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 3: a lot of faded versions of that as well. I'm

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00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 3: sure you went through a bunch. Why this one?

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, go the State Warriors Miami Heat,

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00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: two of the teams. You know, everybody said which team

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Speaker 1: you go in in the Hall of Fame. What I said, man,

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00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: is both teams. Six years with the Miami going to

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Speaker 1: State Warriors, six years with the with the Miami Heat.

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Speaker 1: I had great years, great organizations, you know, all Star games,

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Speaker 1: all NBA teams. It was fitting to have you know,

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Speaker 1: both of them jerseys on at the same time and

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Speaker 1: showing me just dribbling a basketball. But yeah, we went

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Speaker 1: through about what I say about five five to six

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Speaker 1: different pitchers and everything, and once this came up.

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Speaker 7: I was like, oh, hell yeah, I like this. I

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Speaker 7: really like this. This is what we're going with. This

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Speaker 7: is what this is me right there?

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Speaker 3: It works awesome, big Fan. I really appreciate the time.

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Speaker 3: I hope that you're getting everything out of the book

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Speaker 3: that you wanted. It's called Killer Crossover My life from

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Speaker 3: the Chicago Streets to Basketball Royalty. Again, big Fan really

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Speaker 3: appreciates time, Tim, and I hope you have a great

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Speaker 3: rest of the day. Man, Thank you so much, Thank.

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Speaker 7: You, appreciate you and continue success.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Tim. All right, that's gonna do it. Thank

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Speaker 3: you everybody for being here. How's everybody feel. A little

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Speaker 3: hockey talk today?

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Speaker 2: Pretty good?

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Speaker 3: A little educated hockey talk.

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Speaker 2: The diversity of our podcast. Man, how cool is that.

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Speaker 3: I did see someone right? Speaking of slow white guys

1181
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Speaker 3: I'm talking about with like Vanderbilt. When the US won hockey,

1182
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Speaker 3: they were calling that white boy Winter nice. Yeah, there

1183
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 3: you go, interesting, Like there's like, uh like bad girl Summer,

1184
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 3: that white monny white guy Winter. There you go. Thank

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Speaker 3: you all for being here. We hope you enjoyed the show.

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Speaker 3: And we will see you guys whenever we see you again,

1187
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Speaker 3: because we got this cruise going on. We hope you

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Speaker 3: back later. We don't know what's gonna happen, but we

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Speaker 3: will see you soon. All right, Hit It all Right

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Speaker 3: by Everybody? The song written by Bobby Bones That's Me

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Speaker 3: at Producer Ready, segment producer at Kickoff Kevin, and executive

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Speaker 3: producer at Mike Estrove, but most importantly, thank you for listening.

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Speaker 3: on twenty five whistles