1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast. There's nothing but a salary dump. 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL. My name 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: is Dan Kansas. Come to you from a virtual room 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. Heyo, summer tour. 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: It's gonna call it a national tour, but that's international, 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: you know. Right now I'm in Texas. We're going to Texas, 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: We're going to New Jersey, We're going to Japan. We're 8 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: going to various two star motels in the Hollywood area, 9 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: not star, by the way I operated with myself, have 10 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: four star territory. I can promise you that with the 11 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: salary dump being what it is, correcting, I stand corrected. 12 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: How's everybody doing. It's good. I am looking forward to 13 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: heading off to Japan next week. But also yeah, Raking 14 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: Ground as the first NFL media property to tape some 15 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,919 Speaker 1: podcasts in Japan in a few weeks. This does remind 16 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: me there are parallels here in terms of what it means, 17 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: uh to the nineteen twenties when Babe Ruth and a 18 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: collection of baseball all stars went to Japan and introduced 19 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: the sport to that country. That's where I put this. 20 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: I think podcasting, which I'm I'm gonna work under the 21 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: assumption hasn't made it to Japan yet. It's an island, 22 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: after all, they're they're always behind on technology. Yeah, I 23 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: think they're gonna buy all in once they see Greg 24 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: with a yetti. I mean, d NFL had an office 25 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: in Japan right near where my wife Emmaka grew up, 26 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: but it closed down, So I guess, I guess we 27 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: haven't made as many inroads as we would like. But 28 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: if if you're out there, if you're a listener from Japan, UM, 29 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: we love you, but it's speaking of, you know, cutting 30 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: edge technology. Where you are Dan in Texas? Will there 31 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: be a follow up article on California man returns to 32 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: sleepy Texas town to podcast his show. I mean there 33 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: was an excellent article the first time around. Will there 34 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: be a second of follow up? Well, not just an 35 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: excellent article. It was a front page article in the 36 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: Gatesville Messenger in Texas, uh touting NFL dot Com editor 37 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: Dan Hansas Um broadcasting from UM the downtown area at 38 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: a local lawyer's office. UM. I think if I pursue 39 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: another article, I think I can make it happen. Honestly, 40 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: but I think it's kind of been there, done that 41 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: situation for the old user. UM. Now I have more 42 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: important things, you know, obviously my role is the peacemaker 43 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: is something that stands out to me now, Greg, A 44 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: lot of people talking Um and if you missed the 45 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: Thursday recap of the NFL Talent Summit and the explosive 46 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: conversation between Rosenthal and rappaport Um, I feel like the 47 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: feedback on social media was largely positive towards you, Greg, Um, 48 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: how has that event in that podcast changed you? Um? Well, 49 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: when we walked out of there, I all jokes aside, 50 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: I really thought like, I'm really glad we did that, 51 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: that that was a unique thing that we've done in 52 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: our timeline as a podcast, Like we've been here long 53 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: enough that we can get away with doing that and 54 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: having a conversation with that like that that I'm glad 55 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: people heard. UM. I don't know if it's changed me 56 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: though as a human I'm a brit I think we 57 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: got away with it or is it still on some 58 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: level even though we found success in this business, and 59 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: UM and the NFL and we're very grateful for them 60 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: took care of us in our last contract like, do 61 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: you think anyone actually heard it? No? No, I mean 62 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: that is the key. I mean, if I get away 63 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: with it. I just mean like we're getting to do cool, 64 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: interesting stuff and no one stopping us from doing it. 65 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: But you're right, they're not stopping us because they're not aware, 66 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: because they're not listening. Figure, And this isn't a challenge, 67 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: This isn't me trying to like the fire authority. If 68 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: you actually are listening to the show, and you're high 69 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: up in the company, and I mean you have your 70 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 1: own office on I guess now would be the third 71 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: floor in our new facility. Um, just shoot me an email, 72 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: you know how to find me and just be like, 73 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm listening. That's it. You don't even need to need 74 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: anything in the body, just the subject um. Now, does 75 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: this end with Roger Goodell? Uh, Brian McCarthy someone of 76 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: that level hitting me up? I don't know, but just 77 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: let us know. I'm at it. I'm just curious. That's all. 78 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: The difference between you and me is you check email. 79 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: Apparently I haven't looked at email in our company's email 80 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: system in about three or three or four months, not intentionally. Well, 81 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: when you're the well, Greg I'm sorry, I'll have to 82 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: strip you. You're no longer the bad boy of NFL media. 83 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: It's now Mark Sessler. He kind of always has had 84 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: that deep within. I need to know Greg, though, because 85 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: there was a lot of public um raising up of 86 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: your efforts, but often in many of the tweets that 87 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: I saw at the expense of rappaport um. To be fair, 88 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: I I don't know if you guys have communicated post 89 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: um feud non feud ending like what what. I'm sure 90 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: he was a little peaked to be continually critiqued at 91 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: your benefit. I doubt that. I mean, I haven't asked 92 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: about that. We did talk briefly. I don't um just 93 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: because I don't think it really registered. I don't think 94 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: he's too on top of it. Uh, I wouldn't think. 95 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, he wouldn't have come on if like 96 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: that makes that big of a deal. He's been in 97 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: that position, and uh, we don't really know what that's 98 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: exactly like. But he he's had people kind of slamming 99 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: him for various things he's done for a long time 100 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: because it kind of comes with the territory. And I 101 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: and I think most everyone I saw I wasn't like 102 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: locked in checking everything, but was pretty respectful and was 103 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: like happy that we had the conversation. Wasn't like tearing 104 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: him a partner. I'll say this, and Mark, I know 105 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: you certainly can relate to it because we kind of 106 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: came up together. Uh, in this business that when you 107 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: start and if you're writing on a site and there's 108 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: a comment section, um, you're definitely more sensitive to criticism 109 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: earlier in your career. Which is not to say now 110 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: there's nothing someone could say online that will won't get 111 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: to you, because that could still happen, but you definitely 112 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: you develop something more close to rhino skin. And if 113 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: if you're a rapp report who has a platform that 114 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: is vastly bigger than ours, even uh, you have to 115 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: If you can't deal with their criticism, you're in the 116 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: wrong business entirely. And I do give credit whether you 117 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: agree with where Ian came down in that conversation or 118 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: not coming on. He didn't have to do that, and 119 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: that's why I kind of shot him a text afterwards, 120 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: and I sent out a tweet to that point that 121 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: he could easily just laid low or after that conversation ended, 122 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: said hey, I don't want some of that in there, 123 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: And he didn't do any of that, so that was right. 124 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: And on that note, the first bylined article that I 125 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,559 Speaker 1: ever wrote for NFL dot com, way back when before 126 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: I had this you know, thick skin against criticism that 127 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: you that you mentioned one of the first comments I've 128 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: received was you are dumb and your children are dumb. Yeah, 129 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: don't used to have to clear the comments at Pro 130 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: Football Talk. For some reason, their method was you had 131 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: to approve literally every comments. It was like someone's turn 132 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: whoever was on the shift of like mass approving six 133 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 1: d comments at a time. So you started to build 134 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: up a tougher skin to them. All. Right, today's show, 135 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: let's get to it. Let's spin forward. Um mandatory minicamps. 136 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: When's the last one done? When is the when is 137 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: the summer break for the NFL? If you want to 138 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: call that were in it ended the day that the 139 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: summit ended. It was perfect. There you go. And so 140 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: with that said, we haven't uh, and that's because we've 141 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: done this show long enough and followed the long enough 142 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: where it's kind of even if you do a show 143 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: throughout the offseason, it's kind of a fool's Journey to 144 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: Live and Die by every update from O t A S. However, 145 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: we still are in NFL football podcast Mark and this 146 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: episode will be essentially a roundup of things that caught 147 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: our eye during O t A S during mandatory mini 148 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: camps we call them training camp all together. Now, wh 149 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: where's grave Digger? You know I jumped on. I pretty 150 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: should know this. Hey, what's up, Boddy? I jumped on 151 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: to do a sound check from Texas and just checking 152 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: and chatted with justin a little clerical off the books 153 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: type stuff. And and then you know, a figure wanders 154 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: in in the background of the shot. He's from his 155 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: apartment right now, it looks like or his house. Who 156 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: knows his condo? And there she goes like a ghost, 157 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: a blonde ghost, down the hallway and turns the corner. 158 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: I never saw her face, but there she was again. 159 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: There she was. You guys all met her at the 160 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: holiday party. Doesn't she brunette? Am I wrong about this? 161 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: She blonde? I thought she was had she is brunette, correct, 162 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: she has brown area. I don't think I met her 163 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: reporting and storytelling. Wait a second. Years, by the way, 164 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: I resent that Greg don't come after the peacemaker after 165 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: he flew that whole thing wide open last week. Wait 166 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: a second, Wait a second, she's brunette is interesting. Yeah, 167 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: are you sure I met her at the holiday party? 168 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: Are you certain? I don't think. I don't think. I 169 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: don't think. Yeah, maybe not. Anyway, you're a lucky man. 170 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Thank you so much to hit here. Yeah. 171 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: I usually make fun of Mark for like, you know, 172 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: he prepares. I'm not making fun. I admire it, but 173 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: he like will be almost over prepared. Sometime this time, 174 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm taking Mark's corner. I'm overprepared. I just counted. I 175 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: have thirty one potential whispers. We're not going to use 176 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: them off, but I've thirty one spicy. Let's see how 177 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: many of the thirty two teams we can hit. Graver 178 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: hit us with a little ding every time we hit 179 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: a new team, and then uh, we'll see who got 180 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: screwed like news you know, newsflash will probably be about 181 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: half of the teams in the southern divisions of the NFL. 182 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: But let's see. Maybe we'll surprise ourselves. Greg get us 183 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: going with something that's a good way to kick things off. Okay, 184 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with um kind of a basic one, 185 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: because it's a quarterback competition. Note that I thought mattered, 186 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: and that was that Kenny Pickett didn't take a single 187 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: first team rep throughout the ot ot A process. And 188 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: you can't draw too much from this, but the fact 189 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 1: that Kenny Pickett was third in line, that it was 190 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph taking all the backup reps, that it was 191 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: Mitch Robinsky taking all the starter reps, and pick It 192 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: didn't even get in the mix. It's not out of 193 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: the ordinary, especially for a coach like Mike Tomlin to 194 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: like work rookies in slowly, But I guess that's sort 195 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: of my point is that that's what Tomlin always does. 196 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: And even though those reps will change undoubtedly in training 197 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: camp and pick It will get a chance to move 198 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: up a little bit, it just emphasizes that I really 199 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: think Mr Drabinsky is starting with a huge lead in 200 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: this and he's probably going to be the Week one 201 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: starter in the end. That's me. I don't think I'm 202 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: overrating just too those this from that Canada the offensive coordinator. 203 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: We've been very clear that this is a real laid 204 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: out plan of how we're going to evolve and find 205 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: who our quarterback is going to be for the two 206 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: thousand two season. Um Man, this is one of the 207 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: potential conversation points that we're gonna have when we're talking 208 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: about today's show. Is like it matters, it doesn't matter, 209 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: Like this to me doesn't matter. I agree with you. 210 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think Mark Kenny Pickett, 211 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: if he balls out in training camp and shows him 212 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: a really strong handling of the playbook and we're hearing 213 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: signs that he's doing that already, um he has a 214 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: chance to outplay Mitch Drabinsky. But sure, yeah, yeah, I mean, 215 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: you know, Mark Coboli from The Athletic, who is probably 216 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: the best Steelers beat writer out there, said that the 217 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: whole compety Titian is essentially more show than substance. The 218 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: lining up with what the zero snaps, lining up with 219 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: what most writers who have covered practice that said, Well, 220 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: what's I mean, why does he need to start week Why? 221 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: Why would you need Kenny Pickett to start week one 222 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: if you're the Steelers this season? Anyways, I think they 223 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: went and got Mr Robinsky to handle the early load. 224 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: And like with so many of these if, when, if, 225 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: and when, Robinsky totally stumbles, then there will be an 226 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: extra month or two a preparation for Pickett to step in. 227 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: Can I give my answer to that? Like why because 228 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: the Steelers are trying to win the af C North 229 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: and Mitch Drobinsky isn't good. Yeah, but we don't even 230 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: know if Kenny Pickett will be I mean, Kenny Pickett 231 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: isn't you know who Mitt Robinsky is? Right or we 232 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: think we know, and maybe things change in the different surroundings. 233 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: But like Picket represents that great unknown of maybe some 234 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: of these quotes, and I saw Chase Claypool talking him up, 235 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: and it's like, man, I got some like Mac Jones 236 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: vibes off this guy a little bit, like maybe he 237 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: ends up being somebody who could step in and immediately 238 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: upgrade that position from where it was with Raths Roethlisberg. 239 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: To your point, I think, look, if he showed up 240 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: and he balls out in camp in Rabinsky is struggling, 241 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: and then yeah, pick it will wind up starting week 242 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: one he will have the chance to just be better. 243 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: But I think it's fair to wonder whether at this 244 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 1: point he will be better than than miss Drabinsky just 245 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: because of experience. All Right, Mark, give us a whisper. 246 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: All right, I want to build on something that uh, 247 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, caught a little fire earlier in the off 248 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: season when Frank Reich said of Matt Ryan, I knew 249 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: he was good, but his accuracy is insane. There have 250 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: been new proclamations floating in over this last mini camp scenario. 251 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: I want to listen to you to listen to some 252 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: of these quotes that Zach Kiefer, our friend recorded. Uh 253 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: this from Marcus Brady, offensive coordinator. He's damn near a 254 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: coach on the field. I mean, you're meant to be 255 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: the coach. So he's you're essentially saying Matt Ryan could 256 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: do my job. Um, Gus Bradley said the defensive coordinator. 257 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: You can feel him in this building. Deforestner said, he 258 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: reminds me of Philip Rivers and Rookie white Out. Alec 259 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: Pierce said he could basically run this offense and this 260 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: team by himself. And then Frank Wright came back around 261 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: to say one more time, Matt was unbelievable. Really eight 262 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: a Z he did everything right, just great leadership, great play. 263 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: I mean the whole way he took command. He's not 264 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: starting to take command. He simply took command. As we 265 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: all know, I decided to really go ahead and start 266 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: to take command. I want to cut that for social 267 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: because look of intensity in his eyes. This is a 268 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: this is a former m v P. This is a 269 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: former first team All Pro, this is a four time 270 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: Pro bowler. This is the greatest quarterback in Falcon's history. Um, 271 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: I would assume all those things that you just explained, 272 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: that's how he would present on a new team. I 273 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: think it's been a little bit on my radar with 274 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: the Colts this offseason of how pleased they are with 275 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, acting as if they have found again Matt 276 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: Ryan of six years ago, which they haven't. So I 277 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: think this this portion of the football calendar, all the 278 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: amazing things about Matt Ryan that are still in place 279 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: are going to be shining very brightly. I would just 280 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: say that it just needs to be maybe bring it 281 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: down just a touch. Not you, Mark, You could be 282 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: as intense as you want, uh Colts fans in terms 283 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: of expectations of what you're getting in. I am so 284 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: with you, Dan, because my second note to this was 285 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: that this lines up to me as a little bit 286 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: suspicious because a it's June and of course, Matt Ryan's 287 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: going to play the part role I was played this, 288 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: Hee's played this on this stage, played for for ten 289 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: plus years at this point. But something about it um 290 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: feels like there's a potential behind door number two semi 291 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: disaster if this doesn't go very well, well, I just 292 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: worry about you know, the weapons, Alec Pierce you mentioned, Uh, 293 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: it was kind of lining up as like the number 294 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: two receiver right now. He needs a rookie that people 295 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: thought would take some time to get going. They might 296 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: bring back t Y Hilton. I do think like it's 297 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: in angible, and I usually don't get too much into that, 298 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: but I do think there is something about someone like 299 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan being in a new place when he's thirty seven, 300 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: getting away from a franchise that was not at its 301 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: best right now with the Falcons are really over its 302 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: tenure in getting the juice flowing again, like Peyton Manning 303 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: going to Denver or Brady going to Tampa, that it's 304 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: for such a great, an all time great. I know 305 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: he's not at that level of like all time great, 306 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: but he he's excellent and what he does getting that 307 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: juice going again in Indianapolis with a good coach with 308 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: a better organization and that you just might see a 309 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: better Matt Ryan than we saw where we were in 310 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: February with the Colts to where they ended up. I 311 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: think it's pretty close to the best case scenario for 312 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: the mess that they had gotten themselves into. And I 313 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: thought they made too smart moves, doing the move to 314 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: say Carson Wentz is not the guy and getting out 315 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: of that situation and then ending up with Matt Ryan. 316 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: So I don't take it as overly critical cultination. I 317 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: think they did very well for them selves overall. And yeah, 318 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: he could have He's not gonna throw for fifty five touchdowns, 319 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, like Peyton, but he definitely will present I 320 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: think an upgrade for them. How about le's head to 321 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: the Raiders. Let's head to Las Vegas since city Mark, alright, 322 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: I call it. When we went to Vegas, it was 323 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: like basically, don't even you know, don't even walk on 324 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: the carpet in the casino area. This was Harker b Central. 325 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: Just go be, just go, you know, honor the company 326 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: and then fly home. It was sinless city for us. 327 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: But that's in the past now. The athletics, to Sean 328 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: Reid reports that Davante Adams has quote almost exclusively lined 329 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: up outside and has worked from the left and right 330 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: sides of the field. Why does that matter because that's 331 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: not what Adams did best or how he was used 332 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: to great, great, historically productive measures with the Green Bay Packers. 333 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: Um According to Sports Info Solutions charting, Adams drew a 334 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: hundred and six targets in the slot last year and 335 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: only seventy out wide. Why is this happening to words? 336 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: Greg's buddy Hunter Renfro, who is one of the steadier 337 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: slot guys in the league. He's the new Wayne cribet 338 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: Uh in the NFL. He's like a guy you just plugged, 339 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: but he's he's another level up from the game has changed. 340 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: Maybe just saying yeah, but you can't measure hot, bro, 341 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: you can't measure heart. Didn't Betts send Dana birthday message over? 342 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: That was a very nice gesture by costs or something? 343 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: Do you expense that? No, I did not get an 344 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: executive did very good anyway, So that's interesting. And I'm 345 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: not saying that the Raiders made up the wrong move 346 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: by getting Davante Adams, brilliant to give Derek Carr one 347 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: of the very best, if not the best wide receiver 348 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: in the league, but notable that they will be using 349 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: him differently. It's seeing, uh than the Packers did. And 350 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: you would think, in it's a typical situation, a team 351 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: that gives up that much and then pays that much 352 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: for a wide receiver, you're gonna kind of want to 353 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: use them in the way that's been proven to be 354 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: most efficient. But the Raiders, really not by choice, based 355 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: on roster build out, are going to be going down 356 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: a different path. It seems. Well. The money they gave 357 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: renf which we never had a chance to talk about, 358 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: was really interesting. Two for thirty two million for a 359 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: slot receiver was kind of a new type of deal, 360 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: but it was so short, uh and guaranteed like it 361 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: made a lot of sense, I thought for for both sides. 362 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: And he's just not someone that's going to play outside 363 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: that often, and obviously Darren Waller is not going to 364 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: play outside that often either. I do think, though this 365 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: is an O t A a bit of an O 366 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 1: t A story, because Josh McDaniels is as creative as 367 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: it gets that the way their roster has built, they 368 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: can play a lot of big power football with two 369 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 1: tight ends and fullbacks and they're gonna play somewhere they 370 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: really spread you out, and I think they're gonna have 371 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: Adams as like the only wide receiver on the field, 372 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: and I just I try Josh McDaniels to be a 373 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: little more versatile and maybe just the way they want 374 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: to work on some things of him on the outside 375 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: at this time of year, but that he'll end up 376 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: doing a lot. And they've also talked about, you know, 377 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs will not be bellcal material, and he really 378 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: was showing he shouldn't be anyways, but that they're gonna 379 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: run the ball with a lot of different sort of 380 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: heavy sets. One of my thirty one I'm gonna get 381 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: rid of that one now, Gonna have to have to committee. 382 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: Do you think, though, that we all realized that Davante 383 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: Adams should be used in multiple ways, but it's not 384 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: occurred to Josh McDaniels. And at some point between now 385 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: and when camp starts, it might and pop into his head. 386 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: I could be more versatile with this ultra rich wide receiver. 387 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I've already seen Josh McDaniels head 388 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: coach once, so I'm not getting their benefit of doubt 389 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: on anything. It's an interesting topic though. I think when 390 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: you think about their three best players, I think it's 391 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: this is what O tier whispers is all about, just 392 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: like getting your mind jogging a little bit, like, huh, 393 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: that is an interesting fantasy heads out there, don't freak 394 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: out and now take Davante Adams off your board. It's 395 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: just no doable, all right, Greg, I feel like we've 396 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: we've gone for some big swings. I'm just gonna go 397 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: for a one that's a little more random. But it's 398 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: interesting to me that Jeff Okuda, the number three overall 399 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: pick of the draft a few years ago, probably isn't 400 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: a starter right now in Detroit, even though he's healthy. 401 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: Um that a are is there kind of their default 402 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: number one cornerback and they're actually using Will Harris, who's 403 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: played some safety before, probably has their number two. They 404 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: have a couple of different guys in the slot, and 405 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: Okuda is probably a backup on the outside. It's it's 406 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: a coaching staff that did get to see Okuda relatively 407 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: healthy at least throughout the off season before he got 408 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: hurt early in the year, and maybe that changes, maybe 409 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't. But if you're thinking of like, man, how 410 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: can the Lions really take a big leap up man? 411 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: Getting a lot out of their number three overall draft 412 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: pick from two years ago would be nice, but it's 413 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem like it's happening for him. And 414 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: there were so many people, almost everyone, who just thought 415 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: he was one of the best cornerback prospects since the 416 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: al Reevas, and it's just it's interesting to me and 417 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: hope you hope for him it changes, but right now 418 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: he's not in that spot. What is more depressing than 419 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: the scenario where a very highly drafted, highly touted player 420 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: totally fails as a rookie injuries, whatever it is, just 421 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: does not produce, and then comes back for this second 422 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: wave where all the talk is meant to be. Now 423 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: he's got to figure it out. The game has slowed down, 424 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, the adversity of year one is past, where 425 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: it's a shiny sun from here on out. But then 426 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: the practices begin and he's still not even on the 427 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: first team, and like the general managers probably walking around depressed. 428 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: The coaches have to tilt their statements to try to 429 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: protect him. I don't like it, yeah stuff, And he's 430 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: coming back off of an injury too, so that's been 431 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: part of his his story. But that's that the man 432 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: they could use something out of him. Mark, Well, I 433 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: want to counter off the Matt Ryan one that I 434 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: introduced before, Um, because let's talk about the cord bring 435 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: the same level intensity as you did. This is a 436 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: little more just. It's it's more of um. It's not 437 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: a high coocause it's a quote, it's a comment, but 438 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: it's shorter and I just want you to ponder what 439 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: has been said UM in Washington about Carson Wentz by 440 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: QB coach Ken Zampez, who appreciates Carson Wentz is curious nature. 441 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: According to the headline NFL dot Com, he's intuitive, said Zampeez. 442 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: He's curious, he's hungry for football. That's part that that's 443 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: the part that's fun for me. Then he added, he's 444 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: curious and in a good way, as we all know, 445 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: decided to really go ahead and start to take command 446 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: and get curious. No, no, but I definitely think that 447 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: a man getting curious is gonna like ring some bells 448 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: for Mark, He's definitely gonna be all over that fine. 449 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: Never a day that goes by. Yes, I get that, Um, 450 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: never a day goes by. It seems in the NFL, 451 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: now without the Washington commanders in the news is for something. Uh, 452 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: the NFL find Washington head coach Ron Rivera for conducting 453 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: drills to violate the NFL Z O t A policies. 454 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: This also happened to Texans coach Lovey Smith and also 455 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy, And I gotta say, like, I 456 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: kind of like this move. If I was a head coach, 457 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: I'd bring that kind of I'm a coach who is listen, 458 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: you want to find me, find me? But my boys 459 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: play ball. So I'm just gonna I'm gonna mark that down, 460 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: especially McCarthy, because I just think he's the lead dog. 461 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: Just like love, you got to find fifty dollars. I mean, 462 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: I know Love he has made a lot of money 463 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: in his life, but that's gotta be like if your 464 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: love you Smith, or if you're just love you Smith, 465 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: that's gotta be pretty annoying to be like, wait, I 466 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: just lost fifty thou dollars. I'm not feeling too bad 467 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: for him. What does he make it? Four million? I 468 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: don't know, but no, what about daddy? Yeah, but he's SADDI. Okay, yeah, 469 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't have that information. Yeah, that was like, daddy, 470 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: stop it, he can't. We're all in different places. I 471 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: need you to be heavy on the sound drops today. 472 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: Bring the energy. Um. Speaking of the Cowboys, Uh. Mike 473 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: McCarthy believes Ezekiel Elliott is completely healthy now. Zeke suffered 474 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: through a bad season, played through a torn PCL. McCarthy said, 475 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: he's had a tremendous offseason. Tony Pollard's in that room 476 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: obviously looked like a better running back last year. I'm 477 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: curious where we stand with Zeke Elliott as we enter 478 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: his age seven season. He's only twenty seven, but he 479 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: certainly looked like a guy about five years older last season. 480 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 1: He's heard the talk he knows control actually and just 481 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: how everyone asked him questions about it that this is 482 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: probably his last year in Dallas unless he really turned 483 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: around how effective he is, and he's just been someone 484 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: that to be real, it seems like his like preparedness 485 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: and everything that he does like goes up and down 486 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: and that, and he's been down a couple of years. 487 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: And I think you could get more out of him 488 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: by using him a little less it wouldn't shock me 489 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: if Zeke had one more good season in him, because 490 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: when he started last year I thought people were a 491 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: little too hard on him that actually he was doing. 492 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: He was doing some really positive things, but then the 493 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: injuries caught up to him, which seemed to happen every year. 494 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: Like I it wouldn't shock me if he has one 495 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: more good year. And that backfield is kind of the 496 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: centerpiece of that offense. There does seem to be like 497 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: a continual drumbeat and emphasis to get Tony Pollard on 498 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: the field too. He's been used in slot during these 499 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: spring summer practices, so it's like whether it's a committee 500 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: backfield or or him like one o t A trope 501 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: we haven't mentioned too often is the they're gonna get 502 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: both running backs on the feet at the same time 503 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 1: and like the shiftier running backs taking a lot of snaps. 504 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: They did do it a little more last year. I 505 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: mean to be fair, I mean I think Pollard looked 506 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: better than Zeke at various stretches that was like a 507 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: similar well, it's just in terms of workload of the 508 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: running backs where it's just the messaging is all over 509 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: the place. The Jaguars had said that, Hey, James Robinson 510 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: when he gets back, he's he's our three down back. 511 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: I was like, well, what about Travis Atene if he 512 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: if he's doing all three downs, so let's say doing 513 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: just punt punt protector? Like, what's well, that's another guy 514 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: they're putting in the slot here in June. So maybe 515 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: any meaning like we'll end up breaking all these teams down. 516 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: But man, they're they're their receiver group is so thin 517 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: that I think they're gonna need more out of Pollard 518 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: and and Zeke. They got James Washington and um they're rookie. 519 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: What now I'm spacing on the named tolber As they're 520 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: like two and three in neither of them practice throughout 521 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: the ot A period, and it's just like until Gallup 522 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: gets back, I think you're gonna need a lot. I'm 523 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: gonna go right into my whisper because it's Cowboys too, 524 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: because I thought it was just relevant and it's one 525 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: I'm falling for. Is like the healthy de Dak moving 526 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: much better scenario. That's a whisper that like I think 527 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: is meaningful. Um, because he's not coming off a major 528 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: surgery and it's worth remembering he what he did injure 529 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: that ankle against the Patriots, you know, early last season. 530 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it was the biggest reason why he struggled. 531 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: You know, he even said people gave me too much 532 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: of an out after a while, like it had worn off, 533 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: but he was so afraid to run, and like he's 534 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: not the same guy if he's not willing to take 535 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 1: the six seven yards and he gave you nothing as 536 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: a runner in outside the pocket or as like just 537 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: a scrambler last year, and they need him to be 538 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: a lot better. So I'm kind of feeling this this 539 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: off season trip. Mike McCarthy said he sees Dak Prescott 540 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: running more this season, So yeah, if his body can 541 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: handle it and makes him obviously a much better quarterback, 542 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: I buy into that. Whispers Mark, I want to go 543 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: to Lauren park Um to Dan's jets where I find 544 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: this story. Um is one of the more intriguing, like 545 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: we don't know what's going to happen here, uh, scenarios 546 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: around the league. And it's obviously McKay Beckton who spoke 547 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: to the press. Um he described himself as being close 548 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: to and we'll be ready for training camp. And while 549 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: he spoke to the press. He wore a self created 550 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: T shirt UM with a circle slogan in the words 551 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: inside of it big bust, and the words around that 552 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: said fat, lazy, out of shape, injury prone. And basically 553 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: what he said is he's used the critique that he's 554 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: heard as motivation. UM, and good for him if that's 555 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: what he's doing. But then Connor Hughes of The Athletic, 556 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: who is one of the better beat writers around, added 557 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: this nugget that Jets offensive tackle McKay Beckton showed up 558 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: for mini camp. Both Sale and offensive coordinator Mike Lafloor 559 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: offered lukewarm endorsements of his physical shape, conditioning and wait, 560 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: so TBD on this scenario, because he's battling for the 561 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: left tackle job, he will get the right tackle if 562 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: he doesn't beat out George font or maybe he gets 563 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: nothing if he's weighs six seventy pounds by the end 564 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: of June. Uh, you're reading this perfectly marked because that 565 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: was my takeaway as well. If you show up with 566 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: the T shirt and the T shirt also, also, by 567 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: the way, had um, I don't know if you had 568 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: mentioned sucks and overweight. Um. If you wear that T shirt. 569 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: I would imagine you're going to show up in that 570 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: shirt in great shape after you spent the offseason trying 571 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: to defy the haters. So a couple of things stand 572 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: out that that he wore, that he's wearing that shirt, 573 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: but he's not physically in a great place. The fact 574 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: that he said he's close to one. Remember he suffered 575 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: the knee injury in week one of last season. It 576 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: was initially called the four to six week injury, and 577 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: then he missed the entire season. And now we're in 578 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: middle of June and he's not all the way back yet. 579 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, to your point about Sala, who's usually 580 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: falling over with positive comments like many coaches of his air, 581 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: as he said of Beckton, he has forty days to 582 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: continue to work and get himself ready to play football, 583 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: referring to the start of training camp. So listen, as 584 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: a Jets fan has been through too many wars, too 585 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: many lost battles. Um, I feel like this is heading 586 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: in a certain direction. The positive way to look at 587 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: it is he is still super young. I think he's 588 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: twenty three or twenty four, tremendously talented, But you know, 589 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: is the light going to go on and UM. It 590 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: seems like he's his rope with the organization is running out. 591 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: And if he does show up in camp in a 592 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: bad place physically, I could see him ending up on 593 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: UM the publist and they're becoming some type of issue 594 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: behind the scenes and it gets ugly. I don't I 595 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: think there could be more to this story to come. 596 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: And my concern is that it's not good. The difference 597 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: between him and some other high draft picks that go 598 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: through this, you know, criticism with the media and and 599 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: everything like that. It's like we've seen McKay beck Din 600 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: play at a high level, so he he has to 601 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: be pretty high on any list you came up with 602 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: for like the biggest X Factor Boomer Busts however you 603 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: want to put it, because the Jets could either have 604 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: a difference maker maybe the best player on their offense, 605 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, if he if he was right right um 606 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: or nothing, and that's a it's a pretty that's a 607 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: pretty big difference, and it's it's very hard to guess 608 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: which I mean. Don't trust us, don't trust the beat writers. 609 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: Trust the guy like Brian Baldinger who was falling over 610 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: with abuse of a fusive praise um of Beckton during 611 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: his rookie season when he was on the field. But 612 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: you just you haven't seen enough of it. So yeah, 613 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a major subplot. We'll talk about a 614 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: little later, um in a few weeks, maybe next week 615 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: we're when we break down the second year quarterbacks and 616 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: what their prospects look like. But so much is tied 617 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: with Zach Wilson to how the line plays in front 618 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: of him, and becked in such a huge part of that. 619 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: So what one little note though, because if let's say 620 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: it veers positive, their offensive line after years of ups 621 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: and down looks looks fantastic because you've got Elijah Vera Tucker, 622 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: you got lake In, Tomlinson and if and if, if 623 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: you if McKay Beckton becomes the player you want, I 624 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: mean they they're gonna be able to run that offense 625 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: the way they hope to. Yep, let's stick with the 626 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: offensive line. Whyesper Ravens head coach, do we get the 627 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: Ravens yet? No? Nailed it? Ravens head coach John Harbaugh says, 628 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley and his surgically repaired ankle is quote looking great. 629 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley, remember Ronnie Stanley. He signed a one hundred 630 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: million dollar extension midway through the season and then a 631 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: couple of days later suffer just a brutal catastrophic ankle 632 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: injury required two surgeries, landed him on the pup list 633 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: to start training camp last year. Then he appeared in 634 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: one game and then was ruled out the rest of 635 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: the year, So we'll see. Harball also said that Stanley 636 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: might miss the beginning of training camp this season as well, 637 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: but they're hoping he's going to be ready for two 638 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: thousand twenty two season opener. Now, they added some guys 639 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: in free agency, Morgan Moses one of them, um to 640 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: help offset Stanley's loss if he's not able to do it, 641 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: and to give him some depth. But talk about a 642 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: big piece. If Ronnie Stanley came back and it was 643 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley, that's a huge boost for Lamar Jackson and 644 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: that Baltimore offense that loves to run the rock. Yeah, 645 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: that's a great point because especially draft drafting linder Bomb, 646 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: which maybe they had a little more zone running to 647 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: their offense, like their offensive line could be beastly again. 648 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: And it's it's sort of a concerned about the Ravens. 649 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: In general, Yes, they should have better injury luck this 650 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: year after being decimated last year, but a lot of 651 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: their season might come back down to, like how quickly 652 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: and how well these guys come back from their injury. 653 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: I think there's some concern j K. Dobbins and Gus 654 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: Edwards might not be fully ready for the start of 655 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: the season ready to go. Taias Bowser, who was like 656 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: a key starter for them at a thin position, is 657 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: coming off of a major injury. They drafted Ojaba who 658 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: won't be ready, So they have They have a lot 659 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: of guys kind of like are they going to be 660 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: ready for the first month. They might be a better 661 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: team to play in September than than November. They usually 662 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: are like that too. All right, let's take a break. 663 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more. Yesper alright, Greggy, We're back. 664 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: I just some I found it interesting that the Beat 665 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: guys really think Jimmy Garoppolo is gone. The guys who 666 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: have been in San Francisco for like fifteen years. I'm 667 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: talking about year old Beat writers. I'm not old, but 668 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: like they've been around. Matt Myoco and Matt Barrows, these 669 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: guys that like they they don't just make their little 670 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster projection without real inside information after 671 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: talking to a lot of people, and they really think 672 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: Jimmy G's gone. And I just reading through some of 673 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: the coverage, I that it was more meaningful to me 674 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: than anything that John Lynch or Kyle Shanahan said that 675 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: they tend to think that that relationship is just over 676 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: and they'll find they'll find a spot for him. So 677 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: I tend to believe that too. I thought Jimmy G's 678 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: comments about how difficult last season was, and you know, 679 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: he for for all the critique of his play, I mean, 680 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: he never complained, um in a scenario where it's like, 681 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: you know, they're basically about to dump you to the 682 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: corner at some point. For the guy they just sold 683 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: the franchise to draft, he never complained. He took him 684 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: to the you know, plays away from the Super Bowl 685 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: and and said it was one of the toughest years 686 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: of his life. And so it's like, I think you 687 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: have to work with Jimmy G at this point and 688 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: not put him back in this situation. And also let's 689 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: look at the money, because they have to go deal 690 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,959 Speaker 1: with Deebo Samuel's contract, like Jimmy G is the chip 691 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: that needs to be removed for that to be more possible. 692 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: It is a little concerning how to be one like 693 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: snap away from Nate Sudfeld starting, you know, for you, 694 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: it's got to be a little Nick Wessling had texted 695 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 1: us we did aren't Dalton Scale episode last week, and 696 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: he pointed out that he thought that Jimmy G was 697 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: a guy that should really be considered as the primarity 698 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: and of NFL quarterbacks, and I said that I see 699 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: him on that point, and perhaps we should have given 700 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: Garoppolo a little more conversation toward that. I think that, yeah, 701 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: I think the injury has made him so difficult to 702 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,240 Speaker 1: both evaluate, to trade, to even have a conversation um 703 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: like that. But yeah, I was doing a little research 704 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 1: on the Dalton Scale because I was like, oh, that 705 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: would be good fun kind of offseason right up. So 706 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something on the website connected to the 707 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: conversation we had last week, and Jimmy Garoppolo's winning percentages 708 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: over seven hundred as a starter, and I'm not saying 709 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 1: every rest of the under Kyle Shanahan are under well 710 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: under right here, And so that that does speak, and 711 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: I can hear Chris Nick's brother Um from the Great Beyond, 712 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: shouting like, it's not just about the quarterback wins and losses. Um, 713 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: but there's a reason why all you all you hear 714 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: is all these players praising uh, their teamate Jimmy Garoppolo 715 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: because the players only care about winning, and he wins 716 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: when he plays typically. Yeah, I think listen. I mean 717 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: part of the Andy Dalton experience was it isn't all 718 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: about wins. But this was something Chris would bring up. 719 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: I mean he actually did in that episode that Dalton 720 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: will get you a certain way, but then you get 721 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: into the playoffs and it's a crumbled nation, and Dalton 722 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: and George Garoppolo took the Niners to a super Bowl. Secondly, 723 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: here's my bigger reason why I went with Kirk Cousins. 724 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,240 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins gives you a certain aura of frustration of like, uh, 725 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: like he's good and you can argue for him, but 726 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,479 Speaker 1: he's still Kirk Cousins. Jimmy G is simply to Kirk, 727 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is a bowl of vanilla ice cream. Jimmy 728 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: G is too attractive, um and too spicy as a 729 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 1: person to be the Dalton Scale winner. What did interesting argument? 730 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 1: But I like it. What if you did this, because 731 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: again I've been looking up some of these guys and 732 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: dive in a little deeper. What have you combined Jimmy 733 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: Garoppolo's winning percentage with Kirk Cousins four years in Minnesota 734 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: in which he's thrown a hundred and twenty four touchdowns 735 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: against thirty six interceptions and with a passer rating of 736 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 1: one oh three point five, we would be talking about 737 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: he really is the next Tom Brady and yet there 738 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: may not be a perfect Dalton right now. That's that's 739 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: the issue. But the fans, the listeners spoke and they 740 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: were very solidly in the Kirk Cousins camp. So I 741 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: don't know what that what we draw from that well, 742 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 1: and were drawing that Mark's going to take a W 743 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: when he can and and he should give it to him. 744 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not that's a great point, Mark. I 745 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: think it's a it's a it's a W for the community, 746 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: the listening community right right. What was there? There was 747 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: some other vote recently that I came out on top. 748 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: It was the oh the when we drafted those rosters 749 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: with Phoebe. I didn't bring it up really at all, 750 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: but Marx brought this up about six times now in 751 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: two episodes. Well, like you said, you don't have to, 752 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: you have to, you know, ascertain where you scored a 753 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: W and make sure people know about it. I wasn't 754 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: on that other episode. I would have praised you had 755 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,439 Speaker 1: I been there. Trust me, Well, I think the key 756 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: is I'm owing two in this scenario. That's the key. 757 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Mark, I would like to go to I 758 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: don't like that. I don't like it. That's a drop. 759 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 1: That's why you jumped in early create that nonsensical item. Wow. 760 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: The power that I have at my house is to 761 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: simply turn off this laptop and go watch a television 762 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: show and not be part of this show anymore if 763 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: I wish. Okay, but I'll call you on that bluff. 764 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: Let's see it. Let's see. I'm just saying, if it 765 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: gets to that point ahead, Oh yeah, this has become 766 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: utterly absurd. Um New Orleans, where there are a lot 767 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: of whispers. Marcus Davenport, you know this off season is 768 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: what I'm glad you're hitting. Yeah, we're meant to be 769 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,399 Speaker 1: having um. You know, times are meant to be lighter. 770 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: It's the summer we go out, especially if you're in 771 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: New Orleans. You just that you enjoy yourself in a 772 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: way that most human beings cannot. Marcus Davenport um has 773 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: not had that offseason of wine and roses. Uh. He 774 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: has had a nagging left pinky injury. The dates back 775 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: to his college days when he tore ligaments in his finger. 776 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: He's had multiple surgeries on it. He had a plate 777 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: put in it that broke, and ultimately this offseason they 778 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: had to amputate the top of the finger. And uh, 779 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, he appeared before beat reporters with um, you know, 780 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: as heavily bandaged, and he basically said it's down to 781 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 1: a nub. At this point, he's also dealing with uh, 782 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: multiple surgeries to repair an injured shoulder. So this guy 783 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: is going through it. And I think we think the 784 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 1: Saints defense unanimously is a top three type entity and 785 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: he's a big part of that. And I hope he's 786 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: healthy by then. I think, you know, for what he 787 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: has to do, probably losing tip of your finger, you 788 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: can still operate, but you need those hands. You need 789 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: those hands. Yeah, you need those hands, you know, there's 790 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: something gross. There's something gross about the little nug in 791 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 1: there that the plate that was inserted broke. That had 792 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: to be nasty. And it always, if you are a 793 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,760 Speaker 1: football fan, that goes back a little bit. You always 794 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,479 Speaker 1: think about when you hear something like this Ronnie Lott, 795 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: and you remember that story about Ronnie Lott that he 796 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: was playing in a game in December and he's trying 797 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: to make a tackle on running back Timmy Newsome of 798 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and um he suffered a broken left pinky finger. 799 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: The Niners finished ten and sixth that season qualified for 800 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: the playoffs. They faced a powerhouse Giants team in the 801 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: wild card round, and Lot was facing a decision from 802 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: doctors put a pin in the finger and to cast 803 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: over it and then wait eight weeks for it to heal. 804 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: So essentially your season's over. Or amputate the tip of 805 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: the finger off from the first joint up and be 806 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: able to play against the Giants. A Lot, a great warrior, 807 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: picked option B, gave up his pinky. Doctors numbed it, 808 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: sliced it, put it in a cast. He plays in 809 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: the game, and the Niners, even with Joe Montana, score 810 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: three points. It's an awesome New York team, one of 811 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: the great teams ever. Montana. I think Montana got Um 812 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: had had the life taken out of this game, was 813 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: removed at one point he was hit, So I if 814 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: it's the game I'm remembering, Montana was devastated by a 815 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 1: Giants defender and left almost lifeless on the floor. Well, 816 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 1: I don't know about the eighty six game. I know 817 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: that happened in the in the nine or ninety game 818 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: when he got hit I believe by Leonard Marshall and 819 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: missed two years because of it. So maybe it happened 820 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 1: twice though, because that was a ferocious Giant's defense led 821 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: by lt. But now, the one thing that people don't 822 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: talk about with a Lot was that he looked back 823 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: at it as one of the great regrets of his life. 824 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: And Davenport's are totally different that wuation. But I just 825 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: thought this was interesting. Here's a quote he told the 826 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: Associated Press in because the story that everyone knows ends 827 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: right there, right like, I didn't you know anything about 828 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: the Lot No, No, I knew that, but I didn't 829 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: know you regretted. Yeah, that just like he was a 830 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: total badass, and this is who he was It was 831 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: so emblematic of what the man was. This is the 832 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 1: quote he gave to the Associated Press the next year. 833 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: I was trying to laugh it off. Oh when he 834 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: first the first when the cast came off and he 835 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: looked at what was left of his finger, he said, 836 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: I was trying to laugh it off, but I felt sick. 837 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 1: I tried to stand up, but I broke into a 838 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: cold sweat. It was just a total shock. I thought, Oh, man, 839 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,280 Speaker 1: I should have had the pin put in. We're losing 840 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: the compassionate side of sports. Were becoming gladiators. If I 841 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,439 Speaker 1: ever become a coach, I hope I never lose sight 842 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: of the fact that players are people, they feel, they 843 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: have emotions. I could have I could have all of 844 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: Eddie De Bartolo's corporations, who was running the Niners at 845 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: the time, And it isn't going to buy me a 846 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: new finger. It has given me a new perspective on life. 847 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: How that wow fact checked by the way in that 848 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: game divisional playoffs after the eighties six season, Montana was 849 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: wiped out by Jim Burton replaced by Jeff Kemp, So 850 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: Montana can't be blamed for the lost he had like 851 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: a hospitalized concussion scenario. Either way, that's uh yeah, that's 852 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: a troubling story, and that's it was tough man, Marcus 853 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: Davenport didn't try to hide it in the moment how 854 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 1: difficult this has been. Plus having the shoulder series too. 855 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: But it's like such an NFL story that's like, you know, 856 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 1: it's like you you almost had you. I saw the 857 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 1: reaction to It's like, well, they'll be ready for the season. 858 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be it's not gonna like affect um 859 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: whether whether he's gonna play or not. But as um 860 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: I would say, um the pre eminent Marcus Davenport fan 861 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: among the national uh football media, I haven't enjoyed, you know, 862 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: all the injuries yet I've always pushed back, but I 863 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: liked this guy. They make they make fun of them 864 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: on the Saints Twitter podcast, calling him to first, he's 865 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: had a he's had a nice career. He's a good 866 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: pass rusher, they need him, and he's battled through these 867 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: injuries to actually last year was was a very good 868 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: player for them. That you should tell your friends on 869 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: that podcast that he's he's not just some gladiator. He's 870 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: a man. Respect This man's humanaged lesson bone and he 871 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: has emotions. Hey, let's tell a feel good story. This 872 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: one's for you, Greggy. You know everybody had their little chuckles. 873 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: Who's the guy? Who's the guy on our show? What's 874 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: his name? Something? Chuckles? Johnny Chuckles. Wasn't Johnny chuckles? Johnny chuckles? Um? 875 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: When the Patriots quote unquote reached for Cold Strange late 876 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: in the first round the guard. But you know I 877 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: went through an ESPN roundup of how the first round 878 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: picks have fared so far in their first mini camps, 879 00:46:55,080 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 1: and I came across this nug from Mike Reese. Um, 880 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, Grever, give me a little Let's give Greggy this. 881 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: He needs us. He pretends he's not a Patriots man, 882 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,439 Speaker 1: but you know he wants this guy to really work 883 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: out well. A plug and place starter at left guard, 884 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 1: the U T Chattanooga alum ended one practice at mandatory 885 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 1: minicamp by hustling thirty yards to try to recover a 886 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: fumble and ended up in a spirited mini scroom with 887 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: outside linebacker Matthew Judon and others. As a result. Judon 888 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: later credited Strange for his all out approach, which has 889 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: made a quick impression amongst several inside the Patriots organization. 890 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: You can see that athleticism. You could see it match 891 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: up with the Vets who have been here in the NFL, 892 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: which is really good. Matt Patricia getting some Logan Mankins vibes. 893 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if we if you can't 894 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,919 Speaker 1: to draw too much from otiers, it is I think 895 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: pretty difficult to evaluate guard play when you're doing seven 896 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 1: on seven with no tackling or But that's good. I 897 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 1: like the I like the vibes. He's certainly gonna start. 898 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: There's no question they don't have much of a uh 899 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 1: any option, so he he is going to play and 900 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: and you know Bill wants to prove everyone wrong. Um 901 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: Logan Mankin's very similar vibes, just saying that he didn't 902 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: show up with some Facata T shirt that he arrived 903 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: at training camp. Cold strange Dad taking Beckton in a 904 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: big Jets fan shouldn't be a little annoyed with McKay Beckton. 905 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 1: Come on, okay, no free passes here, and that's Patriots 906 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: play caller Ma Patricia, by the way, So I'm sorry, uh, 907 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 1: why why maybe we do something unprecedented and just give 908 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 1: Cole strange offensive rookie of the year now because it 909 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 1: seems so cemented after that thirty yard um burst into 910 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: the pile. Well, while while we're there there, actually there 911 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: was some news from Otiz there It was pretty signif 912 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,359 Speaker 1: again on their offensive line, which is you're playing Trent 913 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: Brown at left tackle, who's missed chunks of basically every 914 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: season almost his entire career, and moving uh their first 915 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,240 Speaker 1: round pick from four years ago over to right tackle 916 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: to battle Isaiah Win which would be a pretty big change. 917 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: And and I think Trent Brown is very different than 918 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: McKay Beckton, but I think he holds a similar importance 919 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: to the Patriots season where you could either get all 920 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 1: pro type play or you could get very little. And 921 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 1: moving him over to left tackle and potentially benching Win 922 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: and maybe trading Win, I wouldn't totally be shocked by 923 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 1: in camp. Is is something to watch because win wind 924 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: has been okay when when they've played, but their offensive 925 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: line was has been a strength for a while. I 926 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 1: don't know if it's going to be a strength for 927 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: sure this year. It's pretty up in the year. All right, 928 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out another one just because that was 929 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 1: let's let's throw out a few more attack on I 930 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: got it, I got it, I got too many, I 931 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,879 Speaker 1: got too many. We gotta bring up in the show 932 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 1: Grave Digger, I know, but we got some real good 933 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 1: ones I want to get. We gotta bring up Grave 934 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: Diggers Guy trail On Burke. So this is this is 935 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 1: the type of o t A story that people are like, Hey, 936 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:15,840 Speaker 1: it's only OTTs, don't matter at all, and I get that, um, 937 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 1: but when he had the conditioning troubles at the first 938 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,440 Speaker 1: few practices, You're like, Okay. Then when he's just like 939 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: out of the last couple of weeks of practices and 940 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,359 Speaker 1: the coaches being very vague about it and they're not 941 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 1: trying to put it on the asthma, they're kind of 942 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: just putting on it like he wasn't really ready for this. 943 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 1: A little concerning, especially considering the spot he holds on 944 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 1: that roster as someone they kind of need this year. 945 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,879 Speaker 1: Three words for you, justin as we turned the mic 946 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 1: over to you, Spin Baby, Spin, go ahead. Well. On 947 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 1: my Titans podcast that came out today, we did Good 948 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 1: to Bad and the Ugly from Titans Minicamp, and I 949 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 1: mean at least used the name here. This is like 950 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse stuff. You're not even saying the name. It's 951 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: the Music City Audible podcast. Um hosted by myself and 952 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: Justin Mellow shout out. Uh yeah, we said that was 953 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 1: the Film Room. That's a Twitter. That's my Twitter. We 954 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,760 Speaker 1: had a podcast a while ago where the co host 955 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: and I didn't work. You gotta work on your brand 956 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: so I can mentally process that. The name of your 957 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: type of podcast is music City, music City Audible, you know, 958 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 1: like Music City Miracle, and like an audible is like 959 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 1: a football thing. Film really dying on a sideline audio. 960 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: You're getting the word audio in there too. That's that 961 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 1: is on next level play on sort of a good 962 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 1: will hunting level play on words. Just that Mark is 963 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: disgusted with this level of self promotion. Graver, you just 964 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: need to soldier on. Just keep thank you. Um yeah. 965 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,760 Speaker 1: So Trailon Burke's pretty it's we called it the ugly 966 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 1: from minicamp that he hasn't practiced and like you could be, 967 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: like you said, you could be like oh it's just 968 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: so t as, it doesn't matter. But the Titans need 969 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: him to be a productive player early and this is 970 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 1: not an encouraging sign at all. So here's the quote 971 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: from Rob Moore, former Jet Rob Moore, he was a 972 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 1: good receiver. It's unfortunate some of the things he's dealing 973 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: with are out of his control. The kid has asthma. 974 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: Now that that's a quote where they're trying to like 975 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: protect them a little bit. But again, it's like Rabo 976 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 1: did less of that. It felt like Rabo was a 977 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 1: little more like hardcore coach, like he needs to get 978 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: his act together, but it was vague why he wasn't there. 979 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 1: He also like he really floundered in pre draft workouts 980 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 1: for teams from a physical issue. Is at Arkansas where 981 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: he kind of went up and down right. And this 982 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 1: is John Robinson, the GM who totally whipped on Isaiah 983 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: Wilson in Round one two years ago. It's like some 984 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 1: of these gms just hang around no matter what. And 985 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 1: he's built a good roster. But I mean they take 986 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,320 Speaker 1: risky players in round one. One of the reasons Farley 987 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 1: a year ago, I was not giving them anything coming 988 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: off with huge injuries. He's a big X factor too. Yeah. 989 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: One of the reasons why I love the draft and 990 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 1: the shows we do at and around the draft is 991 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's hope season. It's all about optimism. Um, 992 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 1: but now we're getting to you know, we're outside that 993 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 1: window now. When you spin forward in the draft, including 994 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 1: those first thirty two picks in the first round, are 995 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 1: littered with guys that aren't gonna make it. Now. That's 996 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 1: not gonna say. That's not to say Traylon Burke's is 997 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: not gonna make it. Once upon a time, Odell Beckham 998 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 1: had a pretty messy first training camp with the Giants 999 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 1: and turned into one of the more explosive playmakers we've 1000 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 1: seen in the last thirty years. It's just it's worth noting. 1001 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: It's fair, it's a good whisper. It's not even a whisper, though. 1002 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 1: I would imagine Titans fans are hearing it a little louder. Yeah, 1003 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: they're not real sprang about it at this point. Yeah, 1004 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,759 Speaker 1: we did our We rated our concerned level. In my 1005 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 1: level was should I be concerned? It's like, start to 1006 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: ask yourself if you should be concerned about this. It's 1007 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 1: a little early to be concerned, but definite with a 1008 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:52,240 Speaker 1: question and a question, you know, classic deferral, classic deferral. 1009 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's take one more break and then we'll 1010 00:53:54,920 --> 00:54:00,399 Speaker 1: wrap things up. We'll be all right. Let you check 1011 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 1: in here. I mentioned that I kind of spun through 1012 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: the some of the rookies, anybody not so much. Obviously, 1013 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 1: a lot of the first round picks are going to 1014 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 1: a lot of positive talk around them, um, but you 1015 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 1: know Burke's as an example as a guy where maybe 1016 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,359 Speaker 1: not so positive around him. I didn't see too much 1017 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: of that elsewhere. One guy to keep an eye on. 1018 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,919 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Giants real quick here, Evan Neil. 1019 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 1: I do put something into when a rookie shows up 1020 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 1: and then people are kind of falling over with praise, 1021 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,879 Speaker 1: and it makes you think, oh, I wonder if they 1022 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:38,439 Speaker 1: nailed this pick. Evan Neil, the offensive tackle taking seventh overall. 1023 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 1: UM Veteran guard Mark Lewinski described him as just dominant, 1024 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: and that's a good son. That's the type of stuff 1025 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 1: you heard around Quentin Nelson when he first came to camp. 1026 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, when you hear words like that, immediately 1027 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm into that. And our friend Cavon Thibodeau of the Giants, 1028 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:57,879 Speaker 1: just to keep an eye on it. He spent most 1029 00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: of the spring in a red jersey, working out with 1030 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,760 Speaker 1: a train around the side because of an undisclosed injury. 1031 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,319 Speaker 1: He got twisted up on and a rep late and 1032 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 1: practice during the second week of O t S and 1033 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 1: they kept him out of the spring. Not a reason 1034 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 1: to get overly concerned. We'll see as long as he's 1035 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: on the field for the start of training cap it's 1036 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: probably nothing and they're gonna be careful with the number 1037 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,760 Speaker 1: five overall pick. And I'll also mention, unless this has changed, 1038 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 1: Grave Digger, that Cavon Thibodeaux will be on our podcast 1039 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,719 Speaker 1: for a third appearance next week. Uh, and that's something 1040 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: to look forward to. That was part whisperer, part plug 1041 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 1: smart and and that Evan Neo Pop is kind of 1042 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,720 Speaker 1: um in contrast to the tackle taken right after him. 1043 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,399 Speaker 1: He kim a Kum which who isn't getting any negative talk, 1044 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 1: but it Brady Christensen has been lining up at left 1045 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: tackle there and Kno didn't seem like totally happy with 1046 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,279 Speaker 1: the suggestion that there's a chance he could play guard, 1047 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 1: so and the coach kind of putting it out there 1048 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 1: that Christensen is maybe one of our best players. Just 1049 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on. That Equanmu maybe not 1050 00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: stepping in the same way. Alright, Greg, what else you 1051 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,879 Speaker 1: gouts hit us with the that a certain quarterback conversation, Well, 1052 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,879 Speaker 1: I I noted UM that Jacoby Britt hadn't taken any 1053 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 1: first team reps at all, almost any not just first team, 1054 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 1: but just any reps that have been all Deshaun Watson 1055 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,439 Speaker 1: at the O T s in minicamp, And I think 1056 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,359 Speaker 1: putting that into context with the reporting and there's been 1057 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 1: a lot since we last talked that a that uh 1058 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 1: his side, Watson side is bracing for a potential one 1059 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 1: year suspension that was in the Washington Post. We don't 1060 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 1: know if that's going to happen or not. Um. And 1061 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 1: then also the news that twenty of the twenty four 1062 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 1: women who were suing Watson in civil courts are now 1063 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 1: settling uh their suits and that more of them, it 1064 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,799 Speaker 1: sounds like, are going to settle as well. And it 1065 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 1: really just maybe the original um uh claimant that that 1066 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 1: when against him, that wants that is going to keep 1067 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: her case going, Ashley solots uh. And so there's a 1068 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 1: lot going on there. And and I don't think the 1069 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,959 Speaker 1: fact that Brissette didn't take any reps, by the way, 1070 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,919 Speaker 1: is surprising, because I think O T as in mini 1071 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 1: camp is when you would want Watson just as a 1072 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 1: as a team to get as much working as he can. 1073 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,799 Speaker 1: And at some point, though, if we know the suspension 1074 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 1: and it's coming, we just don't know how long it is, 1075 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 1: And in that point we'll be in training camp. You're 1076 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to get Jacoby Brissette ready to start the 1077 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 1: season because he's gonna be starting a chunk of the 1078 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: season and that's gonna be one of the many awkward 1079 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 1: things to do with the Browns that that they'll have 1080 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: to do in training camp. Well, also from another angle, 1081 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,959 Speaker 1: if let's say Watson's gone for for a year, which 1082 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 1: is my personal expectation, the brown season is just wait 1083 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,920 Speaker 1: until next year. Anyways. I mean, I understand they're still 1084 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 1: gonna probably they're talented roster to some degree, but Jacoby Brissett, 1085 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 1: your quarterback, Like the plan couldn't be farther afield from 1086 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: what they hoped would be. And there is another note 1087 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 1: that Albert Brier, while we were gone, reported that the 1088 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,200 Speaker 1: Browns are now willing to pay up to half of 1089 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 1: Baker Maker Baker Mayfield salary and a trade. So I 1090 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: there's been this little tiny drumbeat that you never know 1091 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield could be back with Cleveland. I just think 1092 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 1: that that relationship from both sides exactly like, it's just 1093 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 1: not happening. So I think if you don't have Deshaun Watson, 1094 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 1: if you're Cleveland, you understand this is a lost campaign 1095 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 1: no matter how they message it, and you think about 1096 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: next season. Yeah. I saw that from Brier also, and 1097 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 1: the Panthers would only do a Mayfield trade if it's 1098 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 1: a bargain, according to Brier, and maybe that means they 1099 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 1: would have to the Browns would have to eat more 1100 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 1: of that money. Josina Anderson of CBA Sports also reported 1101 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 1: that the Panthers are quote still doing it's due diligence 1102 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 1: in terms of looking to QB. Baker Mayfield the football 1103 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 1: player and the person. So you know, Baker, I wonder, 1104 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,200 Speaker 1: you know not we don't need to delve too far 1105 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 1: because we've tried to shoot the story into the sun 1106 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 1: many times this offseason. But I wonder if he learned 1107 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 1: anything in terms of how to handle the media and 1108 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,959 Speaker 1: what to say and more importantly, what not to say, 1109 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 1: because it maybe that is playing a role in his being, 1110 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 1: him being kind of hung up here in between two 1111 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 1: worlds in this type of upside down purgatory he currently exists. 1112 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 1: I do think that the settling the civil cases is 1113 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 1: pretty significant too. I think it might have been a 1114 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 1: case of what's happened over the last month and the 1115 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 1: the negative attention that's rightfully evan on Watson from the 1116 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 1: HBO story and and the new UM cases, that at 1117 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,840 Speaker 1: some point they just decided this needs, this needs to end, 1118 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 1: to to to move on. And it won't totally end 1119 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 1: because there will be that one case apparently going against them. 1120 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 1: But I think it makes a lot of sense that 1121 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 1: they're they're trying to move on after forever saying that 1122 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,320 Speaker 1: that would never happen, that they would never settle. I 1123 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,480 Speaker 1: saw a report that there could be two more coming 1124 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 1: UM civil suits, which would take it up to twenty six. 1125 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 1: And I'm just curious because there had been talked that 1126 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 1: the NFL might now wait to make an official move, 1127 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, as we're saying, until all the lawsuits were settled, 1128 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 1: either through the courts or as a pre trial settlement. 1129 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm just curious, like just us, these twenty four gets settled. Potentially, 1130 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: you don't know if the trickle will continue, right, It's 1131 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 1: it could keep coming. Who knows well, that's where they 1132 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 1: talked to. There was a there were different opinions inside, 1133 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,400 Speaker 1: like the League office reportedly on what to do with this. 1134 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 1: But I think if you look at if you say, 1135 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 1: as a baseline, maybe you're out for the year, then 1136 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 1: if more, if there's more trickling in cases, I think 1137 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,479 Speaker 1: a year at least from now says we've done. We've 1138 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 1: viewed this a certain way. Here's the punishment, and it's 1139 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 1: not six games or eight games where you're thinking, oh, 1140 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 1: it should have been ten or twelve and I'm not 1141 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 1: just mine it's gonna be a year either. There's a 1142 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 1: thought that like they put that out there so that 1143 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 1: when it becomes when it's ten, then they can act 1144 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 1: like it's a victory that they're the ones leaking this 1145 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 1: and there is going to be this one case Ashley Solis, 1146 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: who I think her words it shouldn't take that, but 1147 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 1: her being on HBO and people are seeing her just 1148 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 1: say that what happened to her, I think had a 1149 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,120 Speaker 1: big impact because I think people believe her and she's 1150 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 1: not she's not going to settle. It sounds like she 1151 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 1: she wants to take this, she doesn't want his money. 1152 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 1: She wants to take this as far as again espers, Mark, 1153 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:08,920 Speaker 1: what do you got Arizona? Oh? Sorry, Mark? This again 1154 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,640 Speaker 1: not personal. I don't even know what this is. Who's 1155 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:17,800 Speaker 1: got it? Sorry? Mark? Um? Rob Gronkowski has announced that 1156 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 1: he is retiring again. Oh wow wait what really? Yeah? 1157 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 1: And now he will retire. Look at Graver step it 1158 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,440 Speaker 1: in doesn't even let us know. Um, And he did 1159 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 1: it with something that's worth it. That is a surprise. 1160 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 1: I just expected that somehow Tom Brady has this magical 1161 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 1: power that will keep Rob Gronkowski playing with him as 1162 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 1: long as Tom Brady wants to play football. But I 1163 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,760 Speaker 1: guess I'm still not ruling out that he'll play at 1164 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,880 Speaker 1: some point this season. Same. But at the same time, 1165 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 1: I totally agree, and in fact, I've joked about it 1166 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,040 Speaker 1: on the show. Like anyone else that's getting caught up 1167 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 1: in the will here won't. He isn't paying attention because 1168 01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:59,760 Speaker 1: Gronk is just sitting out. He doesn't want to do 1169 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 1: training camp, he doesn't want to do O T S. 1170 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 1: But maybe he's just having too much fun again, you know, 1171 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,480 Speaker 1: doesn't it make sense if it with this situation, if 1172 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 1: he retires it comes back in November fully healthy, and 1173 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 1: they roll with him from there. He knows the offense. 1174 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 1: He is a spiritual link with Tom Brady. You don't 1175 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 1: need him in July and August. Right he's probably like, 1176 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to do O T A. S. And 1177 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 1: then he's like, I don't want to do mandatory minticamp. 1178 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 1: And now he's like, I don't want to do training camp, 1179 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 1: and then he's probably like, I don't want to do September. 1180 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 1: It's super hot in Tampa. He'll come in right like 1181 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 1: right around Halloween like roll in and probably be a 1182 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 1: key factor by January. It's hard. Football is hard, and 1183 01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,680 Speaker 1: he's had these back surgeries that people thought were going 1184 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 1: to be a problem for him his whole life. Um, 1185 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 1: and the Bucks put him to work. One of the 1186 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 1: sneaky parts of Gron's value the last couple of years 1187 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 1: is literally no tight end plays more than Gronkowski. He 1188 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 1: he is when he is playing, he is on the field, 1189 01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 1: and UM, that's like that that's a lot to ask. 1190 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 1: I agree with you, Dan, Like, if you're a Gronk, 1191 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 1: if you're gonna play me sixty seventy snaps the game, 1192 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,600 Speaker 1: maybe I'll wait till like week twelve or even see 1193 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 1: maybe I won't play then, but um I'll find out 1194 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 1: how I'm feeling then that would be the way the 1195 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,360 Speaker 1: way where do you get off Greg saying football is hard? 1196 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 1: You never played the game. It just looks very hard, 1197 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 1: and they all say it's hard, and I believe him. Frank, 1198 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,520 Speaker 1: Is that a fair point, though? Mark? From me? Yeah, 1199 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, I can, I can channel. 1200 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,120 Speaker 1: I remember going to practice five days a week, two 1201 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 1: hours and nights six to eight p m. And sometimes 1202 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 1: that I not unders on the beach with my son, 1203 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 1: and even that that's difficult. You're playing very tiring, right, 1204 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 1: just like I wouldn't you. Nobody wants to hear about 1205 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 1: me what it would be like growing up in England. 1206 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,840 Speaker 1: Mark could tell you what I can tell you. I'm 1207 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,320 Speaker 1: drawing from human experience exactly, all right, Mark? With that further, 1208 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 1: that's a big loss. I mean, I will I will 1209 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 1: offer a nugget. Are there any semi snarky sound drops 1210 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,880 Speaker 1: or maybe a news update from like China negotiations before 1211 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 1: before I while there is act, there is one more thing, 1212 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,960 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry with Gronk temporarily or permanently out of 1213 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,760 Speaker 1: the picture, and we know that O j. Howard, who, 1214 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,000 Speaker 1: by the way, was not getting very good reports up 1215 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 1: there in Buffalo, which is interesting because well he had 1216 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 1: a bad I think an achilles injury, but he was 1217 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 1: the can't miss. He was Kyle Pitts a few years back. Again, 1218 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 1: it shows you injuries and guys can't miss sometimes miss. 1219 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,880 Speaker 1: But anyway, who is going to eat up and gobble 1220 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 1: up those snaps at tight End? For Tom Brady, Cameron 1221 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 1: Braids their starter. They did draft a guy in the 1222 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,360 Speaker 1: fourth round I don't know much about and Kate dot 1223 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:44,480 Speaker 1: And and they'll play, they'll play more receivers. They'll they'll 1224 01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,600 Speaker 1: just uh, they'll they'll go four wide and three. You know, 1225 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 1: they'll they'll give Russell Gauge some of those snaps two 1226 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 1: and some of the receiver depth. But yeah, they don't 1227 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 1: really they don't really have a guy like Gronk. Cameron 1228 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,920 Speaker 1: Brady is certainly not a Gronk like figure. They might 1229 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 1: even a bo Car. They'll probably find someone out there, 1230 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,680 Speaker 1: like a veteran who who isn't signed. I say, I 1231 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,720 Speaker 1: submit you sign Will Fuller and then have him eat 1232 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of food and convert him to tight end. 1233 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,760 Speaker 1: Will Fuller to an active roster in two. Let's make 1234 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 1: it happen, all right without further ado, Mark Sessler, the 1235 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 1: floor is yours. I'm very smart, Mark, Mark. I just 1236 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,800 Speaker 1: I am tracking, like you know this, this Kyler Murray situation, 1237 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,800 Speaker 1: and every little thing that said to me um matters 1238 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:34,000 Speaker 1: because I think the whole organizational shift from where we 1239 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,480 Speaker 1: were back in you know, February March, where Kyler Murray 1240 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 1: was botching this uh salary negotiation trade through social media 1241 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 1: with his age and all that stuff, and there were 1242 01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,520 Speaker 1: reports that he's like a video game addict that doesn't 1243 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,960 Speaker 1: really care about football as much as other things. Well, 1244 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,960 Speaker 1: now you've got Cliff Kingsbury saying at the rap of 1245 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:55,120 Speaker 1: minicamp that he is praying, praying the Kyler Murray gets 1246 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,400 Speaker 1: a contract extension before camp. So he's there on day 1247 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,840 Speaker 1: one Steve kim and said, we feel confident this can 1248 01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 1: get done. I just think there's been a tone shift 1249 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 1: where if this was going to turn into some horrible drama, 1250 01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,840 Speaker 1: it feels like at least maybe the negotiations take a while, 1251 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 1: but everyone's on the same page and it's not let's 1252 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 1: get rid of Kyler Murray or he's not a leader. 1253 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,080 Speaker 1: He's not this or that. They're looking around and saying, 1254 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,560 Speaker 1: we take it anything better right now? He fits this system. 1255 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:26,360 Speaker 1: Pay them good. They should whisper whispers All right, I'm out. 1256 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I have a couple others, but I don't 1257 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 1: need we don't need to talk about Elgin Jenkins right now. 1258 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,440 Speaker 1: So what what else? Greg Why don't you empty out 1259 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,800 Speaker 1: and some type of oh my gosh, we'll just we'll 1260 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:40,280 Speaker 1: just do a rapid fire one. Let's go hit me. Uh. 1261 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 1: Braxton Jones is right now the starting left tackle in Chicago. Uh. 1262 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,840 Speaker 1: He was a fifth round rookie pick right now. Tevin Jenkins, 1263 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,720 Speaker 1: who they drafted very high a year ago, is a 1264 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:56,240 Speaker 1: backup st Colin Plays. I think that's kind of been uh, 1265 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 1: under the radar a little bit in Philadelphia. He picked 1266 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,000 Speaker 1: up halfway through last year. Randy Gregory, he's always hurt, 1267 01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,040 Speaker 1: coming off a shoulder surgery. Devin Bush. I thought this 1268 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,480 Speaker 1: one was fascinating. I think he's getting replaced by Miles Jack. 1269 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 1: They're moving him to like strong side linebacker. I don't 1270 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,840 Speaker 1: know if he has a role. Rodney Hudson didn't show up. 1271 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:17,600 Speaker 1: Watch out for a contract problem. Jarvis Landry healthy names 1272 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,520 Speaker 1: in here. Some of us can't hit every one of 1273 01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,320 Speaker 1: these players in their database internally, sure, Devin Bush, that 1274 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 1: was that was in Pittsburgh's kind of been a bit 1275 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,320 Speaker 1: of a problem maybe getting just full out replaced by 1276 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,400 Speaker 1: Miles Jack, Ernest Jones and Bobby Wagner. Kind of a 1277 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 1: fun little duo there. That was just like a hype 1278 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,280 Speaker 1: piece that I'm into. Derwin James coming off of shoulder surgery. 1279 01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 1: Jesse Bates, he's not gotten that contract from Cincinnati. Dux Hill, 1280 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,320 Speaker 1: the first round pick, taking all his snaps. Brian Flores. 1281 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 1: I just Brian Flores is going to be an underrated 1282 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,280 Speaker 1: add to this Pittsburgh Steelers operation. We already did them 1283 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 1: and that's not a thing. We've done a million Steelers things. Um, Brian, well, 1284 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:57,920 Speaker 1: this is one where you need more time to do it. 1285 01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:01,800 Speaker 1: It's just it's kind of more like Iran Flores is 1286 01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,480 Speaker 1: having a big impact and it's maybe gonna have a 1287 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 1: sneaky monster impact. He should just the the idea is 1288 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,320 Speaker 1: to just let Greig go until he delivers one that's 1289 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,560 Speaker 1: a little like what and then we down. But then 1290 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:17,080 Speaker 1: he might have something trench and coming up. It's gonna 1291 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 1: have to stay for it. I probably can just stop 1292 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:25,360 Speaker 1: Sam Williams edge pass rusher Dallas buying that hype MVS. 1293 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,840 Speaker 1: Pop in Kansas City. Uh, Tim Kelly taking over in 1294 01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 1: Tennessee passing game coordinator. I think there could be some 1295 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,000 Speaker 1: drama behind the scenes of their coordinator getting fired during 1296 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,280 Speaker 1: the season. That could something I'll watch out for. And then, Uh, 1297 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,759 Speaker 1: finally I got a few more. But I'll just stop 1298 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:45,320 Speaker 1: the Jimin Davis in Washington. Uh, there's a trope he's 1299 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,280 Speaker 1: not lost anymore, which is not always what you want 1300 01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,040 Speaker 1: to really hear from your coach, which, yeah, you were lost. 1301 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:52,680 Speaker 1: The only thing about that one story is that the 1302 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,599 Speaker 1: players that are comment on how we played last year 1303 01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 1: had some pretty pointed notes about how he was such 1304 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,000 Speaker 1: a muddled mess on the field. Like normally you'd be like, oh, yeah, 1305 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,320 Speaker 1: he was a rookie, he's having a tough time. But 1306 01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:04,719 Speaker 1: if you go read what some of them were saying, 1307 01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,280 Speaker 1: it was like, ouch, he was not a popular player 1308 01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,880 Speaker 1: in terms of his production. Yeah, and he still might 1309 01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 1: be in trouble. I think I have one more real 1310 01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,639 Speaker 1: quick when I just realized it, because it really caught 1311 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,240 Speaker 1: me by surprise. Marcedes Lewis Packers tight end. He is 1312 01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:22,160 Speaker 1: heading into his seventeenth NFL season, and he's just one 1313 01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:26,680 Speaker 1: season away from tying Tony Gonzalez and Jason Witten to 1314 01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,080 Speaker 1: the greatest ever play the position. For eighteen years in 1315 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:36,559 Speaker 1: the league, Marcedes Lewis has been around since you know what, Greg, 1316 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 1: since you were a teenager almost, that's no, I'm not closed. Yeah, 1317 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:46,160 Speaker 1: early twenties, that's what's wild. That's how kids stays in 1318 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:51,519 Speaker 1: the picture. Should trade for him? I would? I yeah. 1319 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:55,240 Speaker 1: I remember writing him up in Road World magazines when 1320 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,120 Speaker 1: he was a rookie. So that is how long I've 1321 01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,120 Speaker 1: been in the game. You know, you thought he might 1322 01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 1: have been a little bit more of a receiver, big impact. 1323 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 1: He was kind of a disappointment from a fantasy perspective. 1324 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 1: He's been He's entering his seventeenth year. Guys out all 1325 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,880 Speaker 1: the time when they're eight. Oh, he can't play anymore. 1326 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,040 Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott Man, he's gonna get cut this year. He 1327 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:18,200 Speaker 1: can't move anymore. Seven years old. Very special human, special 1328 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,080 Speaker 1: human being. Anyway, shout out Marcedes Lewis. That's an achievement. 1329 01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:24,160 Speaker 1: He also spells Mercedes in a way that I continually 1330 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,880 Speaker 1: um misspelled. Don't call him Mercedes, No, you can't do 1331 01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:32,680 Speaker 1: it alright? Good stuff? Did you have anything a Mark? 1332 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:36,400 Speaker 1: I know you felt a little overlooked in the back 1333 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,280 Speaker 1: end of the seg. No, it's more than every time 1334 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,080 Speaker 1: I attempt to speak on the show, Dan is unfurling 1335 01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,680 Speaker 1: some new sort of mean spirited drop that tries to 1336 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 1: knock me down a peg, or or there's some other 1337 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,679 Speaker 1: anthem or breaking news. So it's like, I'm not sure 1338 01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,240 Speaker 1: why I prepared for the episode to begin with. You 1339 01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,680 Speaker 1: know that we've been doing this long enough. I'm not 1340 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,960 Speaker 1: unfurling these drugs. You're creating them ahead of time. That's 1341 01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,479 Speaker 1: how you saw Grave Diggers, you know, one and interest 1342 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,320 Speaker 1: in the background. You think that I met up with 1343 01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 1: Grave Digger before today's show to plot out how to 1344 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,599 Speaker 1: undermind you. I think you're texting him or doing little 1345 01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,600 Speaker 1: d M mean during the show. Yeah, absolutely, there's some coordination. 1346 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:18,400 Speaker 1: Justin More, Justin has simply adopted the Erica playbook. He's 1347 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:23,880 Speaker 1: just internal conversation about how to take down Mark and 1348 01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,479 Speaker 1: make him unhappy today between you and I. No, No, 1349 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 1: absolutely not. This is what is what is Grave Digger 1350 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:33,200 Speaker 1: going to say to that question? In a general coaching No, 1351 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:39,160 Speaker 1: absolutely not. Just trying to make a product. You know, 1352 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 1: a little conflict is better for entertainment value. How show 1353 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:49,559 Speaker 1: you conflict? What was that Graver impression there? Mark, No, No, 1354 01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:56,000 Speaker 1: absolutely not. Then I do have to say I'm very 1355 01:11:56,080 --> 01:12:01,240 Speaker 1: into the spot on Graver cecil our heat that continues 1356 01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:05,320 Speaker 1: to simmer on the back of the It's funny because 1357 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,479 Speaker 1: you advertise yourself as a peacemaker, but really you think 1358 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,760 Speaker 1: you're the opposite. I would say that Graver and I, 1359 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,880 Speaker 1: you know, before our show up and who had it, 1360 01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,000 Speaker 1: sat down and talked for about twenty five minutes, had 1361 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,840 Speaker 1: a great chat. So there's some nonsense involved with that 1362 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,879 Speaker 1: tick to I've had nothing to do with any tensions 1363 01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,360 Speaker 1: that might be building. Once again with nothing at all producers, 1364 01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:27,720 Speaker 1: I have had nothing to do with it. This has 1365 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,439 Speaker 1: all been naturally homegrown. But I am enjoying it. I'll 1366 01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:35,120 Speaker 1: say that, but I'm not responsible Dan. Dan looked at 1367 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,000 Speaker 1: me like a proud father when I hit the Mark 1368 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:41,479 Speaker 1: whispers dropper herself. That's just nice. I'll be a different 1369 01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:46,360 Speaker 1: type of relative to you. We miss the vikings, the dolphins, 1370 01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,040 Speaker 1: the bills, and the falcons unless one of the ones. 1371 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,720 Speaker 1: Greg said covering we got the Bills because O J. 1372 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,000 Speaker 1: Howard he's struggling up there. Arthur Smith has been glowing 1373 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,600 Speaker 1: about Desmond Ritter being like way beyond a rookie, but 1374 01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,680 Speaker 1: it felt very tropish to me. So I think, so 1375 01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,000 Speaker 1: who's still out now? If we count those two dolphins 1376 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:08,640 Speaker 1: Vikings Dolphins, Brian Flores kind of Dolphins adjacent, Yeah, I 1377 01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,880 Speaker 1: guess we hit Kirk Cousins on the Dalton scale stuff here, 1378 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:17,080 Speaker 1: you got them? Not really, that's fine. Everyone's talking about, 1379 01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:21,439 Speaker 1: Oh now the Vikings have an updated offense. It's like, damn, 1380 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,439 Speaker 1: like they scored like thirty points a game last year. Here, 1381 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,800 Speaker 1: I got one note. I got one note, which was 1382 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:29,920 Speaker 1: like it was either left guard or right guard. I 1383 01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,080 Speaker 1: forget which one was. Was like the only starting position 1384 01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:34,840 Speaker 1: that was kind of up for grabs for the Vikings 1385 01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 1: right now. And it's like, damn, is this team like 1386 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,200 Speaker 1: coming off of a super Bowl championship. It is this 1387 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 1: weird team that they have like incredible continuity and so 1388 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,080 Speaker 1: there's very little to talk about, but only like one 1389 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,960 Speaker 1: starting job. Maybe it's like totally up for grabs. Which 1390 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,680 Speaker 1: encounterpoint or a lack of desire to improve. They're like 1391 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,439 Speaker 1: we're good with what we had last year. Just start 1392 01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:57,840 Speaker 1: them again. It's it's a little weird, all right, good stuff. Uh. 1393 01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,640 Speaker 1: We will be back on Thursday with another EPISO of 1394 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:07,280 Speaker 1: Around the NFL the Summer Tour, parent Storming. When are 1395 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,639 Speaker 1: you going to Japan? Greg? Monday? To the Orient? Greg goes, 1396 01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:18,679 Speaker 1: I will miss the cave on Thibodeau in person interview, 1397 01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,400 Speaker 1: which is unfortunate because I enjoyed them quite a bit. 1398 01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:26,040 Speaker 1: That is a bummer. That is a bummer. But we'll 1399 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:29,120 Speaker 1: say hi, We'll say Greg says high from Japan. Maybe 1400 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,519 Speaker 1: he'll he'll say wow, like that's intriguing, like he's in Japan. 1401 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:41,360 Speaker 1: Good conversation. Yeah, all right, good, all right, thanks everybody 1402 01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 1: for listening. Uh until Thursday. You know what you need 1403 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:55,680 Speaker 1: to do, need the call. Hey, Danny Wayne Quebec, New 1404 01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,519 Speaker 1: York Jet got a message from Ricky Hollywood. I want 1405 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,000 Speaker 1: to reach out to you. Tell me a big Jet 1406 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 1: fan and a fan of mine. I appreciate it, man, 1407 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,360 Speaker 1: you know how to blast them. Eleven years hopefully gave 1408 01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 1: you a lot to tear about. A big reason I 1409 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:08,920 Speaker 1: am reaching out to her. You're having your birthday, so 1410 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,439 Speaker 1: very happy birthday to you. Dan. I just want to 1411 01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,720 Speaker 1: let you know everybody's thinking about you. Love you, you know, 1412 01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,360 Speaker 1: hopefully have a great day's safe day. Wanted me to 1413 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,719 Speaker 1: tell you that you have the best hair out of anyone, 1414 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,599 Speaker 1: and I've ever seen you got a concerned They want 1415 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,800 Speaker 1: people to call you the new old blue Eyes. I'm 1416 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,720 Speaker 1: not sure what's it means, man, but it sounds like you, guys, 1417 01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,880 Speaker 1: some great friends are rising you a little bit. Uh Listen, 1418 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:31,880 Speaker 1: I know it was a tough year of two wins. 1419 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:33,800 Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing you can do about it now, 1420 01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,679 Speaker 1: but they got a great new coach, great new coach, 1421 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,400 Speaker 1: coaching staff. We gotta second to the second pick in 1422 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,800 Speaker 1: the draft. Man, we get a quarterback. I'm not sure 1423 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 1: wish one, but young guys did well. You know the 1424 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,800 Speaker 1: backed in and uh you know sheould made the Pro Bowl. 1425 01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:48,639 Speaker 1: Quinn should made the Pro Bowl. So there's a lot 1426 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,160 Speaker 1: to be excited about. So look forward to that two 1427 01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,040 Speaker 1: thousand twenty one. Hopefully you have a great two thousand 1428 01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,240 Speaker 1: twenty one. And I wanted to give a shout out 1429 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 1: to your get dad. Heard he's the real Jets fan. 1430 01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,719 Speaker 1: So enjoy your day. Happy birthday, Dan, and go Jets. 1431 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:06,760 Speaker 1: Take care, man, Take care man take care man take 1432 01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:11,639 Speaker 1: care man take care man take care man, take care man, 1433 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 1: take care man