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Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health. Hey,

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Speaker 1: how's everybody doing? Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live. As we

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Speaker 1: are under a week now for the first practice at

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Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher College for twenty twenty four Bill's training camp.

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Speaker 1: It's coming up fast and I'm getting fired.

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Speaker 2: Up, Steve, it is it's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: That's a two and a half weeks of coming to

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Speaker 1: work in shorts. It's that beautiful weather this time.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's you know, it's everything. It's free food,

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Speaker 2: it's little as we get and you know, it's going

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Speaker 2: out and standing next to practice like we never get

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Speaker 2: to do in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Slapping on the sunscreen and getting our vita.

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Speaker 2: And floppy hat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're You're the big bucket.

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Speaker 2: It's the absolute best. Love it.

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Speaker 1: It's you and mister Pagola are probably and and Coach

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Speaker 1: McDermott big whye brim hat.

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Speaker 2: Yes, very much so. The older and wiser of us.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I I will admit that I did try

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Speaker 1: to make the wide brim hat work and I thought

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Speaker 1: I would be fine wearing one because in case you

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Speaker 1: haven't noticed I got a pretty big dome, like I got.

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Speaker 2: A fat hair.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna why why brimming the hat? I would

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Speaker 1: figure would compliment this wide dome that I possess. As

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Speaker 1: figured out, wide brim hat bake your head looks smaller. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's what I had, that kind of thing. I

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Speaker 1: actually grabbed one at the Bills store. It was on sale.

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Speaker 3: Is that.

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Speaker 1: Don't tell me that I could get it on my head, Steve,

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 2: That would have been too good.

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Speaker 1: It would have. I probably should have went with it. It

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Speaker 1: would have been a funnier story. Uh. But I put

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Speaker 1: it on my head, and I am telling you, as

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Speaker 1: God is my witness, it does not look right. Well

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Speaker 1: that not everybody can pull off not a flattering look,

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Speaker 1: a wide brim hat, and I am in that category.

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Speaker 1: I look completely ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: It is not a flattering look. I will say that.

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Speaker 2: And I'm at the point where I just do not

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Speaker 2: care anymore.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but I've seen you in it, and I

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Speaker 1: think you look good in a wide brim hat. Coach

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Speaker 1: McDermott looks good in a wide brim hat. Terry Pagola

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Speaker 1: pulls off the bucket halt looks very well. I am

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Speaker 1: not one of those people. I I simply cannot wear it.

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Speaker 2: You do have to.

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Speaker 1: It looks like I'm wearing a satellite dishes on my head.

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Speaker 1: That's how I look when I put it on me.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. You have to You're right, it's right.

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Speaker 1: There's a certain group of people that can pull it.

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Speaker 2: You got to feel like you can pull it off

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Speaker 2: before you should wear anything.

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Speaker 1: I tried, and I tried to go in confident, don't

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Speaker 1: I really did?

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Speaker 2: You kind of go and it's like, yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: do this, I'm gonna pull it off. I'm gonna look

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Speaker 2: and then you look at yourself.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, my dad, very much a realist,

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Speaker 1: absolutely get it. And it is a no go for

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Speaker 1: me unless they redesign it. Maybe pull the brim in

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Speaker 1: a couple of inches.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Yeah, you've got different size brims, Like

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Speaker 2: there's the like the you know, the Gilligan's cap and and.

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Speaker 1: Well that's a really small, very small sailor's key.

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Speaker 2: They've got others that are like two inch rims, and

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Speaker 2: then like they've got the three and a half that

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Speaker 2: like the big ones that I wear and madma wear.

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Speaker 1: That's the point and you got it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a big and yeah you gotta I

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Speaker 2: gotta have it, so you want it, you gotta want

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Speaker 1: You will see me a training camp with a regular

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Speaker 1: baseball hat on and plenty of sunscreen the sides of

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Speaker 1: my dome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sunscreen is a is I only in the last

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Speaker 2: maybe what decade, I've really started to slatter that stuff.

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Speaker 1: And is I like the wide brim hat. I'd be

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Speaker 1: happy wearing one of those, But I am it's not

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Speaker 2: It is just it is a I like it too.

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Speaker 2: I love the shade it provided really does make its

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Speaker 1: Is so I will be envious if those of you

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Speaker 2: On the days we go out to watch practice, we

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Speaker 2: get to watch practice like for fifteen minutes, right because

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Speaker 1: Oh here at one Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 2: And it's always in this early in the season. It's

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Speaker 2: always smoking hot at here because the sun hits the

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Speaker 2: back of that field house and reflect reflects down onto

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Speaker 2: the field. I've got a whole I've got a whole

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Speaker 2: collection of wide brims at the desk there. I just

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Speaker 2: I gotta. I gotta make sure I pack one of

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Speaker 2: those for the trip over to Rochester. Yeah, I'll forget.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was looking at a couple of photos

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Speaker 1: from last year's training camp and you had the the.

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Speaker 2: Big old They work so good man. The shade is

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Speaker 2: just awesome.

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Speaker 1: It's like the modern day Pilgrim hat, you know a

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Speaker 1: little bit. You just don't have the tle bit.

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Speaker 2: It does divot in the middle. Yes, just like the

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Speaker 2: Pilgrim hats says.

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Speaker 1: For the band with the buckle on it, you know, just.

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Speaker 2: Like the Pilgrim hats said something about the Quakers, So

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Speaker 2: does the white not say something in this day and

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Speaker 2: age as well? So you know how far we come,

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Speaker 2: how far we have come?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to We need to go around the

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Speaker 1: NFL here, as we usually do at this time in

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Speaker 1: the program, and around the NFL is presented by Collida Health,

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Speaker 1: the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, and we

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Speaker 1: begin with one Deshaun Watson. Because the question is still

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Speaker 1: out there, is he fully medically cleared to do anything

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Speaker 1: and everything? Day over day? At Cleveland Brown's camp in

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Speaker 1: the wake of his late season shoulder surgery. And look,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a situation where it's still relatively unclear.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he dodged the question.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he said he feels great, and he's been throwing

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Speaker 1: every day and has been emphatic about feeling great. But

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Speaker 1: the issue here is is he fully medically cleared. And

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Speaker 1: he would not answer that question from the media when

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Speaker 1: they came to his football camp that he does for

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Speaker 1: kids up there in Cleveland, So he did not answer

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Speaker 1: that question. But physically he said he's feeling great. I

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Speaker 1: guess the anticipation is if he's not one hundred percent,

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Speaker 1: he's probably eighty five to ninety. Maybe they take it

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Speaker 1: slow with him at the set outset of camp. I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 2: It may be a timetable thing. And and if you're

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Speaker 2: the Browns, last thing you're gonna do is let him

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Speaker 2: go out there, just will You're not gonna make sure

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Speaker 2: you're hundred percent about one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because it's his throwing show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they're not gonna let him out there

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Speaker 2: and until they are forced, really they're not. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this last guy, and let's face it, We're all in

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Speaker 2: this boat, every team in the AFC. We've got all

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Speaker 2: these quarterbacks in the AFC. No team wants to go

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Speaker 2: into training camp and lose their starting quarterback for some

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Speaker 2: recurrence of an injury that was forced to go too quick.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the last thing. And I don't have

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Speaker 2: a problem Leb. Brown should be timid and conservative with

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Speaker 2: his recovery very much so, and that he you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he could. He probably does feel great. They're not going

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Speaker 2: to clear him until they're forced to clear him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm yeah. I mean, you're gonna air on the

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Speaker 1: side of cross. It's your franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 2: But if he's throwing every day, now, he didn't say

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Speaker 2: he was throwing five hundred balls a day. He might

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Speaker 2: be throwing five one day and five hundred another. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but he's thrown every day and he seems and if

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Speaker 2: you're thrown every day is because you're recovering. Okay. So

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Speaker 2: I'm the.

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Speaker 1: Only thing that could overshadow Watson's throwing shoulder in Brown's

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Speaker 1: camp is the matter of Amari Cooper, who could be

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Speaker 1: a no show at Brown's camp next week as he's

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Speaker 1: seeking a new contract. He skipped mandatory mini camp back

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Speaker 1: he does in fact report or does he report and

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Speaker 1: not participate kind of a hold in which is kind

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Speaker 1: of a new tactic that players use and have used

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Speaker 1: in recent years. So be interesting to see what Amari

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Speaker 1: Cooper's strategy is here as he tries to get a

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Speaker 1: new contract from Browns. He has one year remaining on

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Speaker 1: his current deal. Kansas City Chiefs place a handful of

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Speaker 1: Defensive lineman Derek Noddy and Charles Ameneho both placed on

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Speaker 1: cleared for that. Derek Notty tore his triceps, that's always

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Speaker 1: And then Joe Tooney, their Pro Bowl guard, had a

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Speaker 1: serious pectoral muscle injury in the AFC Title Game. I

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Speaker 1: to where it all started.

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Speaker 2: It there was a little intrigue into the joint practices

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Speaker 2: in preseason, a little bit a little bit, So yeah,

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Speaker 2: those veteran special teamers that was not brought back.

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Speaker 1: Tyrell Dotson's in Seattle. You know, another special teams stalwart,

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Speaker 1: Deontay Hardy, the return man, not back. So there are

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Speaker 1: some interesting special teams vets no longer with the group.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be I still think they have

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Speaker 1: Siran Neil another one. He's in Miami. So there are

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Speaker 1: For the Special Teams unit, Cam Lewis comes to mind, inspector,

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Speaker 1: but the veteran group has been thinned considerably on special teams,

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Speaker 1: so they've got some voids that they have to fill

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Speaker 1: there on the coverage units especially.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a lot of intrigue going into the

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Speaker 2: kickoff rule, big rule changes, alignment change, the whole thing's

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Speaker 2: How are they handling it? Nobody knows, nobody knows, So

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Speaker 1: Hopefully it's sooner rather than later. ESPN's Jeremy Fowler continued

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Speaker 1: his position by position rankings with opinions from NFL execs

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Speaker 1: and coaches on who the top ten should be. Today

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Speaker 1: You know, nicol is like base defense now for the

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Speaker 1: He does everything on Buffalo's defense, and then he doesn't

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Speaker 2: Come on, I get a feeling a lot of the

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Speaker 2: just look at the numbers. You know, tarn doesn't have

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Speaker 2: He he does it.

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Speaker 1: To see Arren Johnson to me, Tarren Johnson and Indianapolis

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Speaker 2: do so many things just because he was so good

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Speaker 2: at it. Same thing with Tarren Johnson. He can do

436
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Speaker 2: so much as a nickel they don't have to change

437
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Speaker 2: out defensive alignments. They don't have to come in and

438
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Speaker 2: go all right, now we're going three linebackers against their

439
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Speaker 2: six offensive none of that. So there are certain players

440
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Speaker 2: who go against the norm because they're so special and

441
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Speaker 2: either so versatile or they're so good at what they do.

442
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Speaker 2: You live with what their deficiency, you know. So it's

443
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Speaker 2: there's guys like that every once in a while on

444
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Speaker 2: the league. Terren's one of them, Ted was another, you know,

445
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Speaker 2: so it's really interesting to see how they're evaluated by

446
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Speaker 2: different team and these guys then we can put Taran

447
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Speaker 2: in the top ten of Nickel.

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Speaker 1: It just really crazy because you got a guy like

449
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Speaker 1: aj Terrell with the Atlanta Falcons, who's a good corner, like,

450
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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, four interceptions in four years and

451
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Speaker 1: even one of the quotes they had, I love the player,

452
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Speaker 1: the size and coverage ability, but where's the ball production?

453
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Speaker 1: An NFL personnel evaluator said, well, then why is he

454
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Speaker 1: on this list? For autible mention? That's right, what's going on?

455
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Speaker 1: Christian Gonzales is on this list. Look super talented guy.

456
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Speaker 1: He makes playing corner look easy. He played four games

457
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Speaker 1: and left and got a shoulder injury miss the rest

458
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Speaker 1: of the season. How's he on this list? And not

459
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Speaker 1: Arreon Johnson? Like, what are we doing? Serious? It really

460
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Speaker 1: that stuff like this this chap's me. I can't imagine

461
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Speaker 1: what it does for a player, like hopefully it just

462
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Speaker 1: adds another chip to his shoulder exactly. Yeah, I'm telling

463
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Speaker 1: you to not have him anywhere on this list. I

464
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Speaker 1: mean Jack Jones from the Raiders in the also receiving

465
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Speaker 1: votes category New England threw them overboard and they're an

466
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Speaker 1: awful team, and he went to another awful team, Like,

467
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Speaker 1: where are we here? Seriously? I just I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting a little too fired up.

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Speaker 2: Season may be the most controversial in all of them.

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Speaker 1: Gosh, Like, how is Taron Johnson not even within a

471
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Speaker 1: sniff of the top ten. It's it's an abomination of

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Speaker 1: a list. I'm sorry, it's the worst list they've put

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Speaker 1: out so far and it's not even Come on, man,

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Speaker 1: give him some luck, Taron Johnson, for goodness sake. I

475
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Speaker 1: just I can't handle that. Stuff really bothers me if

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Speaker 1: you couldn't tell. We'll move on to our topic of

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Speaker 1: discussion today, which kind of deals with the Bills and

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Speaker 1: the division. Obviously a lot of people are all too

479
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Speaker 1: ready to kick dirt on the four time defending AFC

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Speaker 1: East champions, believing with all all of the offseason roster

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Speaker 1: change that they are ripe for the picking and to

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Speaker 1: be overtaken in the AFC East. Our question that we

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Speaker 1: put to you today is what do you think could

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Speaker 1: be the biggest threat to the Bills in the AFC

485
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Speaker 1: East this coming season? Eight oh three five point fifty one,

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two, five point fifty Those

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Speaker 1: are the numbers to get on board with us and

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Speaker 1: chime in on this topic of discussion. And we do

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Speaker 1: have open lines for you. If you don't have time

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Speaker 1: to give us a phone call, you can hit us

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Speaker 1: up on the tweetsheet at one Bills Live on Twitter

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Speaker 1: x whatever you choose to call it at this point

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Speaker 1: in time. And I think this can cover a wide

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Speaker 1: range of answers here. I don't think it just has

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Speaker 1: to necessarily be a team or a player per se

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Speaker 1: in the division. It could be a circumstance. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: something that doesn't come through that we were counting on

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Speaker 1: for the Bills roster. You know, maybe the void isn't

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Speaker 1: filled at the receiver position to the satisfaction needed to

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Speaker 1: replace the production lost by the player departures, you know,

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Speaker 1: at the receiver spot from last year's squad. So any

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Speaker 1: number of things could kind of upset the apple cards,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. So we want to know where your

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Speaker 1: concerns lie in terms of threats to the Bills for

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Speaker 1: the division title this year. Eight h three zero five

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Speaker 1: point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five

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Speaker 1: fifty that's the number to get on board. We should

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Speaker 1: mention a little bit later in the show our number two.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be joined by NFL writer Adam Rank

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Speaker 1: from NFL dot Com and he had an interesting outlook

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Speaker 1: on the Bills and the other AFC East Club. So

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Speaker 1: we'll expand the conversation with him in the second hour

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Speaker 1: of the show. But in the meantime, it's you and

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Speaker 1: your phone calls and us.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Does anything jump out at you, Steve when you think

517
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Speaker 1: threat to the bills in the AFC?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I always see the threats from within. I'm

519
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Speaker 2: formerly when when I was on a team that was

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Speaker 2: really good and contending and all of that. Uh, we

521
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Speaker 2: always felt like the biggest challenges within our own walls

522
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Speaker 2: and executing what we knew we could execute. Certainly, there

523
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Speaker 2: were teams that gave us problems and had really good

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Speaker 2: players and we're gonna have to play well to beat

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Speaker 2: But we felt like, just like this team does, if

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Speaker 2: somebody's gonna beat us, if we don't help them, they can't.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's where this team has is that's

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Speaker 2: where it lives. That's where it lives. You know that

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Speaker 2: that during the regular seasons you can say what you want,

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Speaker 2: this is a team that you really need help.

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Speaker 3: To beat them.

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Speaker 2: They're they're really good. In the playoffs. When you get

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Speaker 2: into an upper level of competition, like the Chiefs most notably,

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Speaker 2: you know they're they they're good enough to play their

535
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Speaker 2: game and stay right with you. So that it comes

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Speaker 2: down to and as we've seen, it comes down those

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Speaker 2: last couple of series in the game. If you make

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Speaker 2: the plays, you win. If you don't, you don't. And

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs have and the Bills have not. Bills have

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Speaker 2: beaten the Chiefs regular season. Of course, the Bills are

541
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Speaker 2: beating the Chiefs more than any other team in the league,

542
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Speaker 2: but they haven't been able to do it on that

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Speaker 2: last game of the season. This team in Buffalo, the

544
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Speaker 2: biggest challenge is to execute at a high enough level,

545
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Speaker 2: is to win enough games to get every home game,

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Speaker 2: every playoff game here, every home game here, you know,

547
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Speaker 2: win every game, get all the playoff games here. Home

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Speaker 2: field advantage. Home field is not off the table for

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Speaker 2: this club, with a first play schedule or not. They've

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Speaker 2: lived there for four years. Everybody on this roster who's

551
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Speaker 2: been anywhere, who has been around this building knows it's

552
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Speaker 2: a first play schedule. Let's go. That doesn't do it.

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Speaker 2: That's not a caveat for this club. The only thing

554
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Speaker 2: is getting out there and playing the way they can

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Speaker 2: play and the way they practice and the way they're

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Speaker 2: capable of. I've always said it, the only way this

557
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Speaker 2: team loses if they help you. So that's the biggest

558
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Speaker 2: challenge is to minimize those moments and to keep going

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Speaker 2: because with a like I said, like we've seen in

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Speaker 2: the last four years, with a first play schedule, there

561
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Speaker 2: are going to be some teams on the schedule that

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Speaker 2: if you help them, they will beat you. They will

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Speaker 2: beat you. There's some teams you can't hand it to

564
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Speaker 2: them on a silver platter or they'll puke on it

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Speaker 2: and they can't do it. They're just not good enough.

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Speaker 2: They don't have the guy, they don't have the quarterback,

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Speaker 2: they don't have the run, you know, they don't have

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Speaker 2: the personnel, they don't have the defensive playmakers. Whatever. The

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Speaker 2: Bills can do everything they can to lose a game

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Speaker 2: and they still beat them. But when you get into

571
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Speaker 2: a first play schedule, there are going to be more

572
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Speaker 2: teams on it that will take advantage of the mistakes

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Speaker 2: you make. So that's the big challenge for the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: I think this year to play at a high enough

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Speaker 2: level and efficient enough level, so it's not to help

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Speaker 2: their opponent beat them.

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Speaker 1: Let's open up the phones here real quick and start

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Speaker 1: with Jerry on a cell. What do you got for us? Jerry?

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Speaker 2: Hey good?

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Speaker 4: I think I know no one's gonna be talking about this,

581
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Speaker 4: so talking about the back then on the defense, but

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Speaker 4: I think it's the front seven that's gonna be the

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Speaker 4: biggest issue. All the unknowns with von and not exactly

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Speaker 4: deep in that area. If our one or two guys

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Speaker 4: go down, uh you got up an Essa and that's

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Speaker 4: about it. So I I don't I'm talking about the

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Speaker 4: ends now, I'm not talking about the interior. I just

588
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Speaker 4: don't know if there is enough there. I think Kim

589
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Speaker 4: is gonna try to run the ball down our throat

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Speaker 4: if they if the back gun holds up, and I

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Speaker 4: think that that's how we.

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Speaker 2: Doess Yeah, I would say, well, yeah, if the back,

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Speaker 2: if the back holds up, yeah, that would you would

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Speaker 2: say the front end would be now and I would

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Speaker 2: agree with you. There's a lot of new faces up there,

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Speaker 2: but Epineza, Rousseau, ed Oliver Day, Kuan Jones are all

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Speaker 2: really good players, and they're coming back and you have

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Speaker 2: every reason to expect they're going to give you the

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Speaker 2: continued production they have Now. If the Bills now behind

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Speaker 2: those four guys, I'll listen uh to maybe some some

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Speaker 2: fallof but von Miller is still a guy that I

602
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Speaker 2: think has some football in him. I also have uh

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Speaker 2: Javon Solomon as a guy that bears watching. I think

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Speaker 2: he may be a guy who could do some things

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Speaker 2: in a pass rush situation. Now he's a little undersized,

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00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: no question, but that guy is an athletic phenomenon that

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Speaker 2: I think you don't get very often defensive end. I

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Speaker 2: think he's got a chance to be really good. Uh,

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Speaker 2: certainly there are some question marks, no question, No doubt,

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Speaker 2: but I'm kind of with you. I kind of like

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Speaker 2: or I like the corner room. I like I think

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Speaker 2: I think Kaye is going to come in and play

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Speaker 2: extremely well for this team. Christian Benford is going to

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Speaker 2: be the guy we have seen at his starting corner.

615
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Speaker 2: Rasul Douglas good grief. That guy was transformative when we

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Speaker 2: got him last year halfway through the season. So the

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Speaker 2: corner room I think is fine. The safety with Cole

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Speaker 2: Bishop and Mike Edwards and Trap rap Rap. I used

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Speaker 2: to play against the guy named Trap. I've called him

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Speaker 2: Trapped like seven times over the office. It is those guys.

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Speaker 2: I like those guys too, and we just we just

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Speaker 2: spent time talking about the linebackers, so I'm I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I like the secondary a little bit more than the

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Speaker 2: front end because I know how difficult it is to

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Speaker 2: get sacks in this league. So I'm kind of with you. Jerry,

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Speaker 2: You're right if you're talking to me about the defense,

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Speaker 2: I think the front seven is where I would focus

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Speaker 2: my attention hopefully have some pleasant surprises.

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Speaker 1: We have to take a break here, but when we

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Speaker 1: come back, more of your phone calls Tony and Angola,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan and Batavia and others holding at eight oh three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty. Stay right there. We'll get to you

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Speaker 1: when we return here on One Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Colta Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here

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Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you

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Speaker 1: and the question posed to you today, what could be

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Speaker 1: the biggest threat to the Bills in the AFC East

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Speaker 1: as four time defending division champions eight three five point

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Speaker 1: fifty won eight eight eight five point fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Those are the numbers to join us, and we go

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Speaker 1: to Tony and Angola next. What do you got for us? Tony?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Hi, I love it show.

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Speaker 6: Looking forward to training camp with all the changes? How long?

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Speaker 6: How soon do you think this compared to the other teams?

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Speaker 6: It seems like a tough schedule. How long do you

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Speaker 6: think it'll take for these guys the mesh as a unit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the eight hundred million dollar question, right Tony.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a legitimate concern, and I understand why.

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Speaker 1: I think if you want to be optimistic, you're putting

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Speaker 1: your faith in the player development abilities of this coaching staff,

651
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Speaker 1: which has long been proven with all the players who

652
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Speaker 1: have gotten better, whether they were draft choices or whether

653
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: they were free agent additions, they have played their best

654
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Speaker 1: football in Buffalo and it's part of the reason why

655
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Speaker 1: even when players leave, they come back, because they know

656
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: they can excel here and play to the best of

657
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: their own abilities. So you should probably have some form

658
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: of assurance in that respect that they can pull the

659
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Speaker 1: pieces together. I think the other reason you got to

660
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Speaker 1: be optimistic is because the core of the team is

661
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: still very strong. Whether you're talking about Dion Dawkins or

662
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: James Cook, Josh Allen, Dalton, Kincaid, Dawson Knox, Matt Mulono,

663
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 1: Terrell Bernard, ed Oliver, Greg Russe, this is a solid

664
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Speaker 1: core of players. I mean you can even throw Christian

665
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Speaker 1: Benford in that mix now that with the way he

666
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: played last season, I think he's part of the core

667
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: group of his third players. That's part of the core

668
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Speaker 1: group of players. So you have a solid core group

669
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Speaker 1: of players. Now the job becomes getting the free agent

670
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: adishes additions and putting them in those vacancies that have

671
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: been created by the turnover on the roster, and then

672
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: the fringe roles for the younger players, whether Cole Bishop

673
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: surprises in training camp and takes on a larger role

674
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: than anticipated. Maybe Keon Coleman is ahead of the game

675
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: and has a higher football IQ than anticipated, and instead

676
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: of playing the fourth or fifth receiver role, he's your

677
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: third receiver. Now, those kinds of developments, if those happened,

678
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Speaker 1: then this team, I think could be perhaps even better

679
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: than the team we saw last year, and perhaps even

680
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: sooner than we anticipated. I think Steve and I are

681
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: pretty confident that come November and December, this roster could

682
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: be even better than the one we saw last year

683
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 1: if it happens even sooner than that on a shorter

684
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Speaker 1: learning curve.

685
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Speaker 2: Lookout now, outside the draft, picks like Keon Coleman and

686
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: Cole Bishop, who you might have some higher expectations of

687
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 2: maybe slipping in quick but Van Pran Granger as well

688
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: might be an exception to that. But you look down

689
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: at the guys they have to incorporate. Are guys like

690
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 2: Casey Twohill, you know, Dwayne Smoot. You know, you got

691
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: these guys that are like you know, Dion Jones and

692
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: Nick Morrow aren't gonna need the entire training camp get acclimate.

693
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: These guys are all veteran players, Curtis Samuel, same thing,

694
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 2: Chase Claypool, same thing.

695
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: Played in Joe Brady's off right before.

696
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Speaker 2: So these guys have been through an NFL career already,

697
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: So it's they're gonna have a lot of things that

698
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: they don't have to worry about that that you know

699
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: that the key on Coleman's and Cold Bishops of the

700
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: World kind of worry about. They're gonna They're gonna get

701
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: right down to it, so they will acclimate a lot faster. Uh,

702
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: But they need to because they're not They're not coming

703
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: in to back up. You know, a lot of these

704
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: some of these guys, all of them that I named,

705
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 2: are probably looking to contribute right away. But the veteran guys,

706
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: like particularly in that front seven and and then the

707
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: linebacking corps and you know, like Mike Edwards, I mean,

708
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna step in like it's nothing. They're

709
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: just gonna start playing and that's you know, that's gonna

710
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Speaker 2: So I don't think that type of adjustment is what

711
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: we're I'm thinking about seeing. I think you're gonna see

712
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: guys flying around on defensively and offensively. Like I've said,

713
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 2: a ton they're a wagon offense. Josh Josh is too good.

714
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: They got too many guys carried over and their offensive

715
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: line is way too good to have them sputter. So

716
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: they're not going to I'm not saying they're gonna get

717
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: out and they may have a game like they did

718
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: Opening Night last year where they go out and they

719
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: they're like, just spin their wheels. They got a lot

720
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 2: big engine, but they can't get going. That's what happened

721
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: in Opening Day last year. But that's what's gonna be

722
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 2: if that's the only thing, I mean, because they're gonna

723
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: be very talented top to bottom and offensively, you know,

724
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: Josh is a key factor and so is you know, Kincaid, Knox,

725
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: Cook and the offensive line. They got a ton of

726
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: guys that are just gonna roll. So defensively is what

727
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 2: I'm looking at as with questions or at least just watching.

728
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: But because of the how it all comes again, because

729
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: the veterans there should you know, they should smooth that

730
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 2: out to a large degree.

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Speaker 1: What could be the biggest threat to the Bills in

732
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: the a f C Stato three zero five point fifty

733
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Speaker 1: one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty to Jonathan

734
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Speaker 1: in Batavia. Next, what's up?

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Speaker 5: Jonathan, Hello, says the show, and congratulations, I'm becoming a

736
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 5: full time play by play guy of the Bill. Thanks anyhow,

737
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 5: the biggest up to the I am optimistic the Bills

738
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 5: will win again, but when it comes to the biggest threat,

739
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 5: I keep going back and forth seeing the Jets and

740
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 5: the Dolphins New England. I do like the new quarterbacks

741
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 5: rank May, but I think it's still a year or

742
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 5: two away. I'm leaning towards the Jets because but it

743
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 5: depending on if Aaron Rodgers can be healthy, because I

744
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 5: think they love the defense better. But it's gonna be

745
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 5: really close between Buffalo Miami and the Jets. I think

746
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 5: Buffalo is over all the best team. But I'm going

747
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 5: to Buffalo, Jets, Miami, New England is my opinion. And

748
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 5: the other show.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks Jonathan, You're right.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, and I'm kind of with you, Jonathan.

751
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: I want to and I'm gonna I'm gonna keep harving.

752
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna see Aaron Rodgers take eleven hundred snaps this year.

753
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 2: I don't think he can do it. I mean that's

754
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: forty one now, that's a lot of snaps. It's a

755
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: long season and there's a lot of guy it's a

756
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 2: long four months. Seems like a short season, no question.

757
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: And it's only it's not eighty two games or one

758
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty two like in baseball or hockey or

759
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 2: in the NBA. But eighteen games is a long stretch

760
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: to go with a target on your back, and every

761
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: quarterback's got one. Aaron's no different. So certainly he is

762
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: a superlative dude when he's on. When he's at the

763
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: start of this season, you can bet he's gonna be

764
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 2: fine and he's gonna look good, no question. The question

765
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: is how long is it gonna last. It is a

766
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: long season, and it's gonna be over a thousand plays

767
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: offensively for the Jets. That's the thing with me. But

768
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: from this end of the schedule, the Jets are absolutely

769
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: capable and worthy of being a threat or even some

770
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 2: people are picking them because when they're healthy in one

771
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: hundred percent sure, that's a hard roster to beat. The

772
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: Bills struggle with it.

773
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Speaker 1: The Bills historically, year over years since Robert Salad got there,

774
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: have had trouble putting up points on the Jets, particularly

775
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: in the first meeting with the Jets, it always seems

776
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: harder in the first meeting and then in the second

777
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: meeting for some reason, something flips, and that happened last year.

778
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: It was a struggle to score points in the opener

779
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: last year, and then in the second meeting, granted they

780
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: had Zach Wilson at quarterback in their offense was abysmal

781
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: and they hung thirty on him. So I just the

782
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: Jets defense, I think, is a more consistent problem for

783
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: the Bills offense than Miami's defense has been because putting

784
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: up points on Miami has never been a problem for

785
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Buffalo's offense. I mean, they hung forty

786
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: eight on him in Week four, and then despite two

787
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: interceptions in the end zone in Week eighteen, they still

788
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: put twenty one points up to win the game. So

789
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: in my mind, the Jets are a bigger problem. I

790
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: don't know if I would label them a threat just yet,

791
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: but they are a bigger problem for the Bills historically

792
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: here year over year. Got to take a break here

793
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: when we come back. More of your phone calls, Steven East, Aura,

794
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: Tim and Lakefier will get to you when we return here.

795
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Speaker 1: On one Bill's Live Stay with us back here on

796
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live Chris Brown Steve tasked with you here

797
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: on a Thursday. What do you see as the biggest

798
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: threat to the Bills in the AFC East this season?

799
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: Four time defending division champs. What could be a threat

800
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: to stop that streak this year? Back to the phones

801
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: we go and to Steve in East Aurora. What's up, Steve?

802
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: Hold on? Let me get you here? There we go?

803
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: What do you have for Steve?

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00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 7: Oh hey, gentlemen, great show as always. Uh, you know, listen,

805
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 7: you know, listening to Steve a short time ago, it

806
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 7: was talking about the roster positions and so forth, and

807
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 7: the new editions and the depth and uh, you know,

808
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 7: I thought back to the national narrative and all, you know,

809
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 7: kind of like a I don't know, panic is the

810
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 7: word or whatever, or just the criticism of all these

811
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 7: veteran players that they walked away from. And you know,

812
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 7: there are key players in the key corps for a

813
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 7: long time. But you know, I think about the additions

814
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 7: and the excitement about these additions and and kind of

815
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 7: where those players and we reparted from are ASTs. I know,

816
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 7: Jordan Ployer signed with Miami. Mike has still might come

817
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 7: back and so forth. But you know, I'm looking at it.

818
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 7: I'm thinking of the replace the guys who replaced them.

819
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Speaker 7: If in theory there was a competition, and I go,

820
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 7: you know, kind of you know, uh, theoretical, but if

821
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 7: Jordan player was going up, had had a Taylor rap

822
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 7: in a competition, who wins that job? Michaeh Hide against

823
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 7: Mike Edwards the free safety, who wins that job? I

824
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 7: think the players that they have now at this point,

825
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 7: measuring them at this point, that their careers as the

826
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 7: players which apart from are an upgrade. I think the

827
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 7: only arguable one is Steph Diggs, but we know that.

828
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 7: I think anyone watching him, and even the analytics with

829
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 7: the touch percentage show that his his percentage of of

830
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 7: catches completions versus targets had gone down dramatically in the

831
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Speaker 7: last six or eight games that he had played. He

832
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 7: was really a non factor for the Bills. I would

833
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 7: pick the rookie or really any of it. I love

834
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 7: this receiver group they've got there there. They're a nice

835
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 7: diverse group of talent across the board. We're not all

836
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 7: our a's in one basket. Like with Diggs. I think

837
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Speaker 7: at this point in his career, I think Diggs might

838
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 7: be hard pressed to beat out the rookies on at

839
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Speaker 7: that position. And just one final point is Houston Texans

840
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 7: were so much was made about how they fleeced Buffalo

841
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 7: for Steph Diggs in the national media. Well, Houston so

842
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 7: high on Steph Diggs that they they restructured his contract

843
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 7: to essentially make it a one year rent a player deal. Yep,

844
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 7: they took the last two years off his contract, which

845
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 7: ought to tell you something. So you know, he's a

846
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 7: support player at best at this point in his career.

847
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Speaker 7: I love what they're doing. I just thought wanted to

848
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 7: hear you guys thoughts on like at Connor McGovern versus

849
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 7: Mitch Morris at this point in his career. We don't

850
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 7: know about Connor McGovern's for sure, but he's in his prime.

851
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 7: My money's on Connor McGovern. My money's on the new guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: thanks so much.

853
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Speaker 2: I would agree with a lot of what you said,

854
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: although I wouldn't go as far as discounting Steph diggs

855
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: contribution so much. And I think he is going to

856
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,959
Speaker 2: play well for the Tech. But you're right, they didn't

857
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: want to tie up two or three years of salary

858
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: cap with Steph Diggs. They pushed their chips to the

859
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: middle of the table with a young quarterback on a

860
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: rookie deal. They want to get as much as they

861
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: can out of him, evaluate him, and if they want,

862
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 2: they can sign Steph Diggs back to another contract if

863
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 2: he proves to be that guy they didn't go there.

864
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Speaker 2: That being said, that doesn't mean Steph can't play, because

865
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 2: we all know he can play and he's really good.

866
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 2: I'm with you in the wide receiver room. I like

867
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: this group of guys. They've got just enough talent, youth

868
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 2: and athleticism and some real ability mixed with some name

869
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: recognition Mac Hollins and Chase Claypool Keon Coleman a new

870
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: addition but highly regarded coming out. I like this group

871
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 2: because I also have a lot of faith in the

872
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: four guys they've got already on the offensive roster in

873
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: Khalil Shakir, James Cook, Dawson Knox, and of course Dalton Can.

874
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: They already have four guys, four weapons on the roster.

875
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: So I kind of agree with a lot of what

876
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 2: you said up until the point where Steph Diggs might

877
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 2: not make the team. He's probably would make this team

878
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: if there was an open competition.

879
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: I think what we are witnessing, and I'm not going

880
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: to pretend to know everything that is rolling around in

881
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: the thoughts of Brandon Bean's mind, or Sean mcdermot's for

882
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: that matter, but I think they went as far as

883
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: they could with the group that they had, the old Corps,

884
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: if you will, and after getting to the AFC title game,

885
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: they took three more swings at it with largely the

886
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: same group, which was now three years older across the board.

887
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: And if memory serves, the last time I checked late

888
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: last season, the Bills had the fifth oldest roster in

889
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: the league last year, and I think that, coupled with

890
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: the inability to get over the hump in the divisional round,

891
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: prompted this turnover on the roster. I think they came

892
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: to the realization that they had to try a new

893
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: formula and that they had to get younger. They did

894
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: both of those things pretty dramatically in one offseason. Now

895
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: there's a lot to fit together. I don't think there's

896
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: any debate about that. But at the same time, change,

897
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: as we've heard Brandon Bean say, this offseason can be

898
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: good Let's go back to the phones and to Tim

899
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: in Lakeview. Let me punch him up here. What's going

900
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: on with Mike? There we go. What do you got

901
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: for us? Tim Well?

902
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 8: First of all, Brownie, I'd like to congratulate you for

903
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 8: being the new voice of the Buffalo Bills.

904
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: Thank you.

905
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 8: I think it's well earned. I think our biggest obstacle

906
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 8: this year is our sports science team. I may be wrong,

907
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 8: but three years ago and we were one of the

908
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 8: least injured teams in the league. I could have sworn

909
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 8: our sports science team had some different components, and I

910
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 8: believe somebody left three years ago. In the last two years,

911
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 8: our biggest obstacle is keeping people healthy because I strongly

912
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 8: believe that if we are at full strength, there is

913
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 8: no team out there that can beat us. I truly

914
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Speaker 8: believe that we have one of the most talented rosters,

915
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 8: we have the most talented quarterback, and you just look

916
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Speaker 8: at the games where we're at full strength, it's not

917
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 8: even a close game. It's we are. We're a powerhouse.

918
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 8: So I think our sports science team needs to get

919
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 8: their act together this year. And obviously, injuries was a

920
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 8: big obstacle for us the last two years. I'll hang

921
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 8: up and listen to what Jet to say.

922
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure thing, Tim. I won't debate that injuries have

923
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: been an obstacle, but I think too, I think you're

924
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: really targeting one specific area far too much. There is

925
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: a huge level of variance in why injuries happen in

926
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: the NFL. Obviously, it is still despite all the safety

927
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Speaker 1: measures of the leagues have tried to enact, is a

928
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: barbaric sport that's going to have injuries. You even hear

929
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Speaker 1: players who play this game, and Steve can speak to this.

930
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent injury sport. Eventually, at some point

931
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: in time, if you play more than a year or

932
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: two in this league, you will get injured. It's just

933
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: a fact. And I think if you look at some

934
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Speaker 1: of the injuries that occurred this past season, a couple

935
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: of them were pretty freakish in nature. I mean, Matt

936
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 1: Mulonal gets caught in a pile up, his leg gets

937
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: caught in a pile up and gets snapped because there's

938
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: six hundred pounds on his leg. Anybody's leg is gonna

939
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: break no matter what your sports science staff does. You know,

940
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: de Kwon Jones throws his arm out in a hole

941
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: that he can't get to because he's getting held on

942
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: a play and his arm gets bent back awkwardly and

943
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: he tears his peck. That's a freaking injury that is

944
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: going to happen just because if the brute force in

945
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: the sport, no matter what sports science efforts have been.

946
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: So I think it's a little misguided to point with

947
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: a laser pointer at the sports science department and say

948
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 1: they're the people who have to get their act together.

949
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: I think that's a little misguided, Tim, So I will

950
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: agree with you from the standpoint of yes, injuries have

951
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: compromised their level of success, particularly when they get to

952
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: the postseason. And we saw that last year Torell Bernard

953
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: out Rasul Douglas dragging a leg around Tyrell Dotson. Not

954
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, it cost them on the defensive side

955
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: of the ball, but it's not. If anything, the sports

956
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: science department has been one of the better revolutionary advancements

957
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: in keeping this team healthy.

958
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Brownie said it, and I'll repeat it. The

959
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: chances of getting injured when you start an NFL season

960
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: or one hundred percent. Every guy on the team, every

961
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: single guy on the roster, is going to get hurt injured. Now,

962
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean they're going to get missed six games

963
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: or even one game, but they're gonna get injured to

964
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: something they have to go in repeatedly and get treatments for.

965
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 2: And how compromised your squad is on each and every

966
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: game day is the level of effect. Injuries are gonna

967
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 2: have your team, on your season, on your win loss record.

968
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: But every single dude, no matter what your sports science

969
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: department does, every single guy is gonna get hurt. It's

970
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: just that is a fact of life in the National

971
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 2: Football League. That doesn't mean they're gonna miss games, but

972
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to get something fixed up on them.

973
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 2: How big and bad that is and how deep it

974
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: goes into the roster is the only question.

975
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: We will step aside here and take a break. But

976
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: when we begin our number two, we're gonna be doing

977
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 1: it with NFL dot Com writer and fantasy football analyst

978
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: Adam Rank, who delivered his state of the Bills on

979
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com. We'll have to see what that contained

980
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: when he joins us next here on One Bill's Live,

981
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

982
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: This is one Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

983
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: All Right, hour number two here on a Thursday, Chris Brown,

984
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you and pleased to be joined now

985
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 1: by NFL dot Com writer and fantasy football analyst Adam

986
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: Ran joining us here on the program. And Adam, we

987
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: hope you're enjoying your summer. As you know, it's almost over.

988
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 3: As training camp, it's over now, it's over all. Listen

989
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 3: you don't listen, by the way, Congratulations to you. This

990
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 3: is this is a small thing for me, but this

991
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 3: is a great time to be on with both of you,

992
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 3: so I appreciate it. Thank you for bringing me into

993
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 3: the celebration.

994
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, happy to have you and thanks for that. You've

995
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: been working on your state of each and every NFL

996
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: team on NFL dot Com. You've made your way through

997
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 1: the AFC East already and we have, you know, AFC

998
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: East myopia here. So we're going to focus there with you.

999
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: And we'll begin with the bills, because that just makes

1000
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: sense on a Bill's Show, and you're rather bullish on

1001
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: the bills, which I think would put you in somewhat

1002
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: of a minority, because I think from a national perspective,

1003
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: there's a healthy group of people who are fearful of

1004
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: the turnover and subtraction of household names that people have

1005
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: become familiar with on this roster, whether you're talking about

1006
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs, Gabe Davis, Micah High, Jordan Poyer, you know,

1007
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: stalwarts year over year on a very successful team. So

1008
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: the question I put to you at him is why

1009
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 1: do you remain bullish on the Bills.

1010
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's still the quarterback, right, he didn't leave that.

1011
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 3: If I miss that, I would apologize. I will change

1012
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 3: my tune. And I don't want to be one of

1013
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 3: these guys that just comes out and says, hey, you

1014
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 3: know what, every time you have a quarterback like this,

1015
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 3: you have a puncher's chance. But it's significant. I mean,

1016
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 3: you don't understand. I think Bill's fans have been spoiled

1017
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 3: and over the last number of years. When you have

1018
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 3: a quarterback this good, who can go out and do

1019
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,959
Speaker 3: the things that he does, like, yeah, I would feel

1020
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 3: confident going into any season. And I understand you lose

1021
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 3: some pass catchers like Gabe Davis, like Stefan Diggs, but

1022
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 3: now you've got Dalton Kincaid arriving, you have Shakur coming up.

1023
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 3: I think that Josh Allen makes these pass catchers better.

1024
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 3: So for me and as a fantasy person, I would

1025
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 3: love to say James Cook. It involves I don't know

1026
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 3: what kind of sway you have with the coaching staff.

1027
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 3: I do know that when Joe Brady took over last year,

1028
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 3: they started running the ball a lot more effectively. So again,

1029
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 3: I think there's reasons for optimism with the Bills. And

1030
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 3: I think I'm more bullish too, because it's.

1031
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: Like this is it like this?

1032
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: This is actually shy. I don't know. I don't want

1033
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 3: to get too far in front of myself, but I

1034
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 3: think there's still a lot of talent there in Buffalo,

1035
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 3: so there's not a reason to be overly concerned.

1036
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 2: One of the things that also turned over this year

1037
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: was the defensive coordinator. And I said this, and I

1038
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: always put finger quotes on this is the third defensive

1039
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: coordinator in three years. They moved on from Leslie Fraser

1040
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 2: last year. Leslie had this defense in the top five

1041
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 2: every year rank, but they were rarely spectacular under him.

1042
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 2: McDermott not so much. They were churning it out. They

1043
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: were getting turnovers, they were getting interceptions, they were getting

1044
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 2: sacks at a much higher rate. Although their defense overall

1045
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 2: might have been a hair off those rankings than they

1046
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: were with Leslie Fraser, it was a much more spectacular

1047
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 2: defense at times. Now Bob Babbage takes over a guy

1048
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 2: who's been with McDermott for like thirteen years before he

1049
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 2: was a head coach, they were together. Now he gets

1050
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: the nods, the coordinator a lot of energy. What kind

1051
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 2: of bump in the radar is that for you?

1052
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 3: Well, it's one of those things when you look at

1053
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 3: defenses statistically. I don't want to read too much into

1054
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 3: it because I think he just got to look down

1055
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 3: the road in Cincinnati with lou Anarumo, who has a

1056
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 3: defense that's never in the top fifteen, but then when

1057
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 3: they get to the playoffs, they start playing well. And

1058
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 3: I think that's what Buffalo needs. And it's exactly what

1059
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 3: you were talking about, Like, it's cool to be a

1060
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 3: top five defense, but if you're giving up big plays

1061
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 3: in the playoffs, then what good does it do you?

1062
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 3: And I think that the change is good. I think

1063
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 3: that Sean McDermott, you know, And this is no shot

1064
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: on Leslie Fraser, who I love and I would consider

1065
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 3: him a friend, but at the same time, you know what,

1066
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 3: you got to go out there and make the moves

1067
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 3: and the defense I thought did play better last year

1068
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 3: actually when it mattered to the bos So. I again,

1069
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 3: like with the thing with Josh Allen, I feel very

1070
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 3: confident with this. I think that I think this Bills

1071
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 3: teams ready to go, and you know what, sometimes it

1072
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 3: just takes some time to get the coaching staff that

1073
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 3: you want, get it in order the way that it

1074
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 3: needs to be, and I think that's what Sean McDermott

1075
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 3: was going through.

1076
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: The one interesting take that you did have in your

1077
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: state of the Bills was you feel like Super Bowl

1078
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: has kind of got to be the end game here

1079
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: for Buffalo. They've got to be AFC champions this year.

1080
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: Or you think that, you know, there could be some

1081
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: trepidation with Sean McDermott's future. I'll play a little bit

1082
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: of Devil's advocate here at him. I mean, there's only

1083
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: two teams in the league that have made the playoffs

1084
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: each of the last five years. It's the Bills and

1085
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Like that's it, and all indications are the

1086
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: Pagoulas absolutely love Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean as a

1087
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: lockstep combo. You think they really need to get that

1088
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: far to keep him off the hot seat.

1089
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 3: I mean, do you want you ultimately have to cash

1090
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 3: those in like it's great, it's great to be in

1091
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 3: the mix, and if you want to be a runner

1092
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: up forever, like that's I don't think that's what Buffalo wants.

1093
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 3: I think that this franchise and this fan base has

1094
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 3: been yearning so long to be a super Bowl champion.

1095
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 3: And Sean McDermott has now gone out there and arranged

1096
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 3: the staff like he's wanted to do. And I even

1097
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 3: kind of put the phrasing a little harsher than you

1098
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 3: were doing, And I thank you, but I'm not afraid

1099
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 3: to say it. I'm like, the scapegoats are gone. You

1100
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 3: got rid of all of them. You changed the offensive coordinator,

1101
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 3: You've changed multiple defensive coordinators. Stefan Diggs is gone. Okay,

1102
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 3: now it's you. Now it's up to you. It's kind

1103
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 3: of like being a stand up comedian. You know what,

1104
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 3: you can be funny, but when you're on stage, you

1105
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 3: have to go to deliver. You have to make you know,

1106
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: they've got to make the jokes land. You got to

1107
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 3: make people laugh and things like that. Sean McDermott now

1108
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 3: needs to get this team to the super Bowl.

1109
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 6: Now.

1110
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 3: Obviously, if they went to the AFC Championship Game and

1111
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 3: they lost or something like that, I would think that

1112
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 3: that would be enough to keep Sean McDermott around in

1113
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,439
Speaker 3: Buffalo and an outside outside of a disaster, I would

1114
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 3: imagine he probably comes back. But at the same time,

1115
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: like you do want to like it's such a catch

1116
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 3: twenty two because I've seen teams do this before. I

1117
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 3: was down in San Diego years ago when they fired

1118
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 3: Marty Schottenheimer after a fourteen and two season and then

1119
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 3: they brought in North Tener and you're like, yeah, maybe that,

1120
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 3: maybe that wasn't the greatest idea. So again, there's a

1121
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 3: lot of that going on, like the devil you know

1122
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 3: is better than the devil that you don't. But at

1123
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 3: some point, and I love Sean McDermott, Listen, I always

1124
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 3: stick up for a fellow bald. I want to see

1125
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 3: him get over that hump. I want to see him

1126
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 3: beat the Chiefs and beat the Bengals and beat those

1127
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 3: are the two teams that you need to knock off.

1128
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 3: And I think that I think that playoff game and

1129
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 3: I might have broke this. If I didn't write this,

1130
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 3: it might have been edited out, because I'm sure I

1131
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 3: said this that playoff loss to the chief like Chiefs,

1132
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 3: excuse me, sort of stole that. You saw the soul

1133
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 3: leave Josh Allen's body and it is not returned. They

1134
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 3: need to bring it back. They need to do it,

1135
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 3: and I think it's a important for them. Is it

1136
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 3: going to cost of his job? You guys would know

1137
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 3: more than me, but it's like it's almost put up

1138
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 3: or shut up time.

1139
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 2: And we talked Gorn's revolving around the AFC East and

1140
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: where we got. Certainly the Dolphins were the team last

1141
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: year before the Bills walked him down in the last

1142
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 2: month of the season and nipped him at the end

1143
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: and got the division title. And the Jets, you know,

1144
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: they blew up on Week one, opening night when Rogers

1145
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 2: went down. You can take your pick, and well, we

1146
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 2: just start with the Jets because here we feel like

1147
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: the Jets are the biggest problem for the Bills to beat.

1148
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: A lot of teams struggle with the Dolphins. The Bills don't.

1149
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 2: The Bills do struggle with the Jets no matter what

1150
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 2: the one lost record, says, and now the Jets have

1151
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 2: a forty one year old taking snaps. He's got a

1152
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 2: thousand snaps he's got to take for an eighteen game schedule,

1153
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 2: two middle aged tackles protecting him. But other than that,

1154
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 2: this Jet team looks like they're going to be a

1155
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 2: problem for everybody else.

1156
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 3: I would agree. I would think it's one of the

1157
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 3: best rosters in the NFL when you look at them

1158
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 3: top to bottom, especially on the defensive side of the football,

1159
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 3: this is a dynamite team. They've done a great job

1160
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 3: of roster building, and I know they did go out

1161
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 3: there and they get They got a couple of not

1162
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 3: necessarily journeymen. These are veteran players who played well in

1163
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 3: the NFL who are going to be tackles right now protecting.

1164
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 3: They found tackles who are somewhat similar to inhe to

1165
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 3: their quarterback, which is kind of nice to keep everything good.

1166
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 3: But I thought a great move for them was going

1167
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 3: out there and getting Pashanu from Penn State, because he

1168
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 3: does give them some flexibility right there as a swing tackle,

1169
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 3: as a guy who doesn't need to rush into the

1170
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 3: starting lineup but can learn behind two pretty good players,

1171
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 3: and when he gets his opportunity, I truly believe that

1172
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 3: he's going to shine. And then he got Garrett Wilson

1173
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 3: and Breise Hall, and they've got some exciting players. I

1174
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 3: do believe they they need one more piece and wide receiver.

1175
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 3: I know the rumors are floating around about DeVante Adams.

1176
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 3: I don't think they need to go that big. I

1177
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 3: would actually, I don't know if they would. If these

1178
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 3: teams would trade with each other, I think t Higgins

1179
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 3: or Brandon Ayuk, who you know often to say Uku

1180
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 3: has been rumored to Buffalo or fans have ruined them

1181
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 3: to Buffalo, I should say that there's nothing official. I

1182
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 3: think the Jets, if they got one more piece on offense,

1183
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 3: especially at one of the skill positions, I think that

1184
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 3: they could be very dangerous to be in line for

1185
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.

1186
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: So, Adam, do you feel that way because you're not

1187
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: expecting much from Mike Williams, their free agent pickup coming

1188
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: off the knee injury.

1189
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 3: You know, he's a very talented player, and I think

1190
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 3: that coming out of Clemson, you know, dynamite player, and

1191
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 3: again being out here in southern California, watched him play

1192
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 3: for the LA Chargers, and there are times where you're

1193
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 3: just watching him and he is just amazing. But his

1194
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 3: issue has been his availability, and he just hasn't been

1195
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,439
Speaker 3: on the field enough, if by some miracle, and he's

1196
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 3: playing at the meadow Lands. So let's let's be realistic here.

1197
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 3: I don't I hate to say anybody's injury prone or

1198
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 3: anything like that. It's a violent football game like any

1199
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 3: injuries can happen at any time. But we need to

1200
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 3: see him for a pull season, and he plays somewhat

1201
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 3: close to a pull season, then that would be the

1202
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 3: missing piece.

1203
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: And then as far as the Dolphins go, there's this

1204
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: little thing called a contract extension for Tua, which I

1205
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: think could become very polarizing if they don't get this

1206
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: thing squared away. And it doesn't seem like they're close

1207
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: or that anything is imminent, because the Dolphins are in

1208
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: one place and Tua wants to be at the top

1209
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: of the market, and it seems at least readily apparent

1210
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: now that they're not on the same page in that regard.

1211
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what their alternatives are when your backup

1212
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: is Mike White and the markets dried up like they've

1213
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: really painted themselves into a corner here. How could you

1214
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: see that kind of upsetting the Apple card for them

1215
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: before they even get to Week one.

1216
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that could be a huge issue. As you said,

1217
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 3: you know, there's nothing out there, and unless what are

1218
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 3: you going to do? Go back and get Ryan Tannehill?

1219
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 3: Is he still available? Like, I don't know what you

1220
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 3: would do without a tongue of ioloa and whatever you

1221
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 3: want to say about him, I truly believe he's a

1222
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 3: good NFL quarterback. I think he should be the quarterback

1223
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 3: of the future. You know, this team has made the

1224
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 3: playoffs and back to back seasons, and they went a

1225
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 3: long stretch from what two thousand and two to Mike

1226
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 3: McDaniel was hired. They've made the playoffs just twice, and

1227
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 3: so he comes in there gives them instant credibility. He's

1228
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 3: turned them around and they've got not necessarily a veteran team,

1229
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 3: but when you have players like Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle,

1230
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 3: you want to go out there and win now. Like

1231
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 3: this is a team that's definitely in the mode to

1232
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 3: win right now. They've done a pretty nice job. I

1233
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 3: think that they're going to weather the Christian Wilkins thing

1234
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 3: pretty well. I actually thought that was kind of a

1235
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 3: savvy move because they went out and brought in like

1236
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 3: thirty defensive tackles to kind of fill that spot and

1237
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 3: really really built everything out. So they need to get

1238
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 3: this done. And I know that quarterback prices are a

1239
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,919
Speaker 3: little spending, but it's like being at the gas pump.

1240
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,479
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I wouldn't want to pay this much.

1241
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 3: I wish we were paying nineteen ninety nine dollars, But

1242
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 3: the reality of the situation is, this is what it

1243
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 3: costs to have a franchise quarterback, and if you want

1244
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 3: to be competitive in the NFL, you need to have

1245
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 3: that quarterback.

1246
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 2: How much do you make up? Because a lot's been

1247
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 2: made of the turnover on the Bills defensive roster, a

1248
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 2: lot of guys in the front seven are going to

1249
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 2: be washed through. The Miami Dolphins have gone through a

1250
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 2: little bit of a changeover on their defensive roster as well.

1251
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 2: How big an effect will that have or is their

1252
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,439
Speaker 2: offense just going to be so high powered they don't care.

1253
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 3: Well, Again, I think it comes down to sometimes you're

1254
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 3: better off having more depth, having more availability, having more

1255
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 3: guys to draw from, instead of putting all your money

1256
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 3: into one player, which is what they were asked to

1257
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 3: do with Christian Wilkins, and they wisely chose not to.

1258
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 3: And I think the change the defensive coordinator is pretty

1259
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 3: good too. I know Vicdango came in. He did one season.

1260
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 3: Now he's went up in Philadelphia. It was funny listening

1261
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 3: to some of the comments of the players, like that

1262
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 3: does not seem like they're going to miss him at all.

1263
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 3: So they have a new coaching staff and a new thing.

1264
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 3: And the one thing about the NFL, and it's you know,

1265
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,919
Speaker 3: it's a stark departure from the nineties. You know, Steve

1266
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,919
Speaker 3: like your hero played like the Bills had like such

1267
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 3: a great defense with great players who played there forever.

1268
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 3: The Dallas Cowboys, who won a number of Super Bowls,

1269
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 3: had great players who played there for a long time.

1270
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 3: We don't get that anymore. And you just want to

1271
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 3: now get teams that and you don't have to be

1272
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 3: a shutdown defense, but can you make the big plays

1273
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 3: when it matters the most? And I think the Dolphins

1274
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 3: will be all right. I think I really did. I

1275
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 3: was impressed with the way they were able to handle

1276
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 3: the situation and navigated it. Might take a couple of

1277
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 3: weeks for them to gel because we don't have the

1278
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 3: practice time that we did back in the day. But

1279
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 3: I think ultimately this will end up being a sound defense.

1280
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: All right, So last one for me, Adam, how tight

1281
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: can you see this race? Being like we get to

1282
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: the last month of the season, do you think these

1283
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: three teams, provided you know, nobody suffers a catastrophic injury

1284
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: like the Jets did last year, do we see them

1285
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: kind of neck and neck all the way down the

1286
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: stretch here?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's a three team race. I'm glad you pointed

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Speaker 3: it out. We don't even need to talk about the

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01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 3: other team, although I do want to bring it up

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01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 3: because I don't know, I don't know what is going on,

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01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 3: who's in charge of the schedule. But the Buffalo Bills

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01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 3: two of their last three games against the Patriots. This

1293
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 3: is like Alabama. This is like Alabama being like, okay,

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01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 3: our last three games are Troy and cal State Fullerton.

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Speaker 1: And what is this?

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Speaker 3: What is this nonsense?

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01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 6: Now?

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01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 3: Obviously this is well, listen, when you come up the

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01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 3: bye week, like there's the forty nine ers, this is rampers.

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01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 3: That's a tough stretch. That's three brutal games right there.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, yeah, there's the Chiefs too. So okay, so

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01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 3: they threw your bom Okay they did. They you sort

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01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 3: of deserved that. I don't know. I think I think

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01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 3: it will come down. It's gonna be very fun. I

1305
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 3: did my predictions. You can find them on NFL dot Com.

1306
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 3: I know that I have three teams from the AFC

1307
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 3: East making the playoffs, So I think it's gonna be

1308
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 3: a fun division. I would say that if it wasn't

1309
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 3: for the Patriots, it would be the best division in football.

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01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 3: But you know, they're they're kind of dragging it down there.

1311
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 3: They're the Paul Roma of this four horsemen. So unfortunately,

1312
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 3: how much do you think five people get that joke?

1313
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 3: But it's fun.

1314
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: How much do you think you know their new quarterback

1315
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 2: Drake may plays. Do you think he gets in? Does

1316
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 2: he does he see some time? I mean, I know

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01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:30,839
Speaker 2: there's gonna be huge pressure.

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01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't know. You know, it's funny because,

1319
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 3: like a lot of times, when you have these teams,

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01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 3: then you have a legacy coach come in, like, hey,

1321
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 3: we're passing the torch from Belichick to Girod Mayo, like

1322
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 3: usually the team's still pretty good. Like remember when Bill

1323
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 3: Wall stepped down and they gave the team over to

1324
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 3: George Seafert. They went out and won a super Bowl.

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01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,879
Speaker 3: They waited till the Patriots cratered, and they're like, okay,

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01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 3: good luck, go take over this team, right, it'll be

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01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 3: a lot of fun. Now. I don't know. I didn't

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01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 3: necessarily like Drake may as a prospect coming in, and listen,

1329
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 3: I've been wrong before, which is fine, like I've made mistakes.

1330
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 3: I really felt that they should have traded out of

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01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 3: that spot and started to build a roster and really

1332
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 3: started to put some other people, or even if they

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01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 3: just took at that spot, I would have taken Marvin

1334
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 3: Harrison Junior and been like, we'll get our quarterback next

1335
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 3: year because we're going to be awful and we're going

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01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 3: to be in line for the number one overall pick.

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01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 3: So I'm curious to see what they do. I think

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01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 3: at some point, whether he starts the season or not,

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01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 3: the one thing that'll keep fans interested is to bring

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01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 3: him back. And I'm just curious though, if they start

1341
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 3: to trade away some of their other valuable pieces on

1342
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 3: this roster. You know, does Remadre Stevenson get traded to

1343
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 3: a contender? Does Matt Judon get traded to a to

1344
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 3: a team at some point? So for me, I feel bad.

1345
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 3: You know, they're putting him into they're putting the quarterback

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01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 3: into a They're putting Drake into a situation where it's

1347
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 3: not ideal, like, yeah, you're not really walking into a

1348
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 3: uh the Patriots of twenty years ago or ten years ago.

1349
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 3: Even so, I think it's gonna be caught. But I

1350
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 3: think they're gonna the only thing they're gonna do, They're

1351
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 3: gonna they're gonna have to play them because at what point,

1352
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 3: why do you want to run out a veteran anyways,

1353
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 3: when you can just go out there and see what

1354
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 3: you got with the rookie.

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01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 1: Adam, thanks for the time. As always, we appreciate it.

1356
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: We'll keep our eye on your stuff on NFL dot

1357
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 1: com all the way through the season. Thanks much.

1358
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 3: No, I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Good seeing

1359
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 3: you guys, and hope to do it again soon, bet

1360
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:29,719
Speaker 3: Thanks much.

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01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: Adam Rank, NFL dot Com writer also does a lot

1362
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: of good fantasy football stuff. If you've ever catched caught

1363
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: some of his segments on NFL Network. He kind of

1364
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: gets dressed up in some wild outfits in a given week.

1365
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: It's like he has a theme every week. Like some

1366
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: week will be on there with a straw hat and

1367
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 1: a beach chair and a drink with an umbrella in it. Yeah,

1368
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 1: another week he'll have some crazy wig on which you know,

1369
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: the versatility is endless when you're a bald guy like

1370
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: me or him, So he takes full advantage of it

1371
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: and it gets entertaining. I'm not gonna lie so good

1372
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 1: to have him on the show and bring in some

1373
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: good takes as well. That's what I just challenged him

1374
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 1: a little bit on it, because he thinks that Sean

1375
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,600
Speaker 1: mcdermot's seed gets pretty hot if they don't get to

1376
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, and I would respectfully disagree with that.

1377
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: I think I think his record is pretty proven here. Yes,

1378
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, they haven't been to the AFC Title Game

1379
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: in three years, but they're a play or two away

1380
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: from getting back to that game each of the last

1381
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: couple of years. I might exclude the divisional playoff loss

1382
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 1: to the Bengals where their emotional gas tank was just

1383
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 1: on empty. They just didn't have it that day, and

1384
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: that was not a close game. But last year against

1385
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, they're a kick and a digs catch away

1386
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: from winning that game. You know, And if you want

1387
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 1: to go back two years prior, you know, it's not

1388
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: Josh Allen the offense losing that game. They put up

1389
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 1: thirty six points. There's just a unfortunate, catastrophic series of

1390
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: errors in the final seconds of that game. So for

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01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 1: my money, and I know you tend to agree with this,

1392
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 1: they're right there and they should be right there.

1393
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's no reason to think that this really

1394
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 2: we don't. We haven't seen it, no question, but I

1395
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 2: think it really is if you look at it in

1396
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 2: the big picture of a chance for this team to

1397
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 2: like refurbish and refresh. And even though you got a core,

1398
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 2: a number of core players that are coming back, those

1399
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:44,440
Speaker 2: core players buying large Aside from Josh and maybe and Dawkins,

1400
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 2: everybody else is pretty fresh, even Connor mc McGovern. Well,

1401
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 2: the core is younger. Yeah, a corp is much younger.

1402
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: And I think the pieces.

1403
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: Of your core are probably Dion Dawkins and Matt Mallana,

1404
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: who are thirty. That's the top end age wise of

1405
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: your core. Now it's not thirty two or thirty three

1406
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 1: years old. It's thirty, So you kind of reset the

1407
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: deck on your core and on your fringe players who

1408
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 1: are really young.

1409
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, they've got You've got a chance now to

1410
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 2: be better both health wise and athletically. And I where

1411
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 2: they got their guys. And there's guys we've forgotten about it.

1412
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel has gotten almost no attention. Yet we always

1413
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 2: tend to do that, even last year. I saw some

1414
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: last year, but two years ago I saw somebody wearing

1415
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 2: this number forty jersey and I'd forgotten they'd signed Vaughan

1416
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 2: because all so much happens, you know, like, oh my gosh,

1417
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel and Casey two Hill is going to be

1418
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 2: a guy that's gonna turn some heads as well. He's

1419
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 2: this guy is a fast motor, he's a he's got

1420
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 2: a he's a player that has been playing on a

1421
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 2: defensive line with a bunch of first picks, first round picks,

1422
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 2: high first round picks. So I just think there's a

1423
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 2: lot of guys on this listening, on this roster that

1424
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 2: are gonna be really really good for this team. And

1425
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,799
Speaker 2: you know, if they click on enough of these guys,

1426
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 2: not all of them, but just enough of them. This

1427
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 2: I keep saying, this team by the end of the

1428
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 2: season could be the best one yet under Sean McDermott.

1429
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 2: So that still doesn't mean they're gonna be able to

1430
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 2: catch that last pass and make that last kick, but

1431
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 2: it sure does give them a chance to get back

1432
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: to get a chance to do that.

1433
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: We have to step aside here for a break, but

1434
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,719
Speaker 1: when we come back, we'll take more of your phone calls.

1435
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 1: What could be the biggest threat to the Bills in

1436
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: the AFCIES this season. Maybe it's a team, maybe it's

1437
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 1: a player, Maybe it's something internal or circumstances. You tell

1438
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: us what it is. At eight h three zero five

1439
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 1: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

1440
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: as we're taking your phone calls and your tweets next

1441
01:14:49,840 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: here on one Bill's Live, stay with us. All right

1442
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,799
Speaker 1: back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown Steve Tasker

1443
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: with you and discussing what you think could be the

1444
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: biggest threat to the Bills in the AFC East this season.

1445
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 1: And it is time for us Steve to crack open

1446
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, and the tweet sheet is brought to

1447
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: you as always by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment

1448
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and Joel says, I

1449
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: think the biggest threat is still the Dolphins. If two

1450
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: of us somehow puts it together, they'd be stellar leave

1451
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 1: the league in passing last year. So to me, that's

1452
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,799
Speaker 1: putting it together. Maybe the Jets with a healthy Aaron Rodgers,

1453
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 1: but I feel like that's a big ask for a

1454
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: forty year old quarterback coming off an injury. Either way,

1455
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 1: Bills by a billion, Yeah, I think I think we're

1456
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: gonna get some mixed opinion on this Steve as to

1457
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 1: whether the Dolphins or the Jets are the bigger threat

1458
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 1: here because of theferring opinions on just what the Jets

1459
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: are going to be and what to expect from Tua

1460
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 1: provided he signs this contract.

1461
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 2: The Jets are scarier because you, unlike the Dolphins, you

1462
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 2: feel like, going head to head and go toe to

1463
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 2: toe with the Dolphins with this roster and their roster,

1464
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 2: you're gonna win. The Jets, it's a struggle because their

1465
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 2: roster is so good, but their roster does because we

1466
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 2: know what age does to players, their roster seems fragile,

1467
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 2: more fragile than Miami's. That's basically what you're looking at

1468
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 2: with these three teams. The Bills are going to be

1469
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 2: right there at the end unless something, unless something catastrophic

1470
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 2: happens to their roster, they're going to be right there.

1471
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 2: And with his coaching staff, with his quarterback, with the

1472
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 2: offensive weapons, the offensive line going, and the defensive head

1473
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 2: coach they have, you just can't count this team out.

1474
01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 2: They're the four time defending champion, and there's a chancets,

1475
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 2: maybe better than a coin flip, that they're going to

1476
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 2: be even better this year because of their athletes. But

1477
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:09,719
Speaker 2: they struggle to beat the Jets, and now the Jets

1478
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 2: coming back with Aaron Rodgers look good, look really good.

1479
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 2: The Dolphins same thing. They to it led the league

1480
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 2: in passing last year. They were a juggernaut. They did

1481
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 2: struggle against good teams, which means logically, if that continues,

1482
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 2: they're going to struggle against Jets and the Bills. So yeah,

1483
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 2: I'm the Jets are an issue because they have a

1484
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 2: lot of really really good players, really good players, and

1485
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 2: the question is will all those players see the field

1486
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 2: enough to win enough games to get in the playoffs.

1487
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 1: That is the question. Andrea says on the tweets sheet injuries.

1488
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,560
Speaker 1: Look what happened last year at linebacker. We had to

1489
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 1: get aj Klin off the couch for the playoffs. Unfortunately,

1490
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 1: we're a little thin at some positions, imperative that we

1491
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 1: stay somewhat healthy. I would argue that Iancker is no

1492
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,799
Speaker 1: longer a thin position. I think because of what happened

1493
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 1: last year. Brandon Bean made sure that did not happen again.

1494
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 1: And so now, assuming Milano comes back and is good

1495
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: to go, you've got Bernard and Milano as your front liners.

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Speaker 1: And then I'm just gonna say this, I think Dorian

1497
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:19,560
Speaker 1: Williams is going to take a giant leap here in

1498
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: year two, and I think he's the first linebacker off

1499
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 1: the bench, whether they have to go to a base

1500
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: set in certain series based on what the offense is doing,

1501
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 1: or if God forbid, there's an injury in Bernard or

1502
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: Milano miss time. Dorian Williams played some snaps in the

1503
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: playoffs last year, Pittsburgh game in particular, and he flashed.

1504
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he looked like a completely different player than

1505
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: the one we saw earlier in the season when he

1506
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: got a couple of starts here and there. Week seven

1507
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 1: in New England comes to mind, and he had to

1508
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 1: get taken off the field because he couldn't see it

1509
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 1: fast enough and react. By the end of his rookie year,

1510
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 1: he saw it and he was getting it and he

1511
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 1: was lumping people up. I mean, he plays a physical

1512
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 1: brand of football, and I think he's gonna find his

1513
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:05,560
Speaker 1: way onto the field in certain situations.

1514
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 2: Is another factor as well, because you got We even

1515
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 2: said it today at the beginning of the show. Tyler

1516
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 2: Medikevitch is now with Steeler and Dodson is not here. Well,

1517
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 2: those guys were big time special teams players. I don't

1518
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 2: know that. I don't know that Dion Jones, Nick Morrow

1519
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 2: are going to be able to play special teams at

1520
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:31,719
Speaker 2: the level those two guys, did you know, Medikayevich and Dodson.

1521
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 2: But somebody's got to.

1522
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's going to be Ulifotio, the rookie

1523
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,879
Speaker 1: draft pick from Washington who has special teams experience in college.

1524
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: I think he's an automatic six. I think they keep

1525
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 1: six this year, I really do, all right, Yeah, I

1526
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 1: think they keep six. So six of those guys, well,

1527
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 1: they got it. If they keep six of those guys,

1528
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: you still have specter who is going to keep special teams.

1529
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 2: Eight or nine defensive lineman? Yeah, I mean ten last year.

1530
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 1: They did keep ten last year. You're right about that,

1531
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: But I I think I think that the equation is

1532
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 1: a little different.

1533
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 2: This year because you're going to keep ten dbs.

1534
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 1: That's usually the way you go.

1535
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:19,799
Speaker 2: Ten DB's six linebackers, nine linemen, nine d lineman.

1536
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,719
Speaker 1: You've got a sixteen player practice squad. You can massage

1537
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: those numbers.

1538
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

1539
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 1: You can, you know, if you feel you have a

1540
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,879
Speaker 1: player that you can safely keep on the practice squad, yeah,

1541
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 1: or even one that you know you're going to commit

1542
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 1: to protect, because you can protect up to four from

1543
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 1: getting poached during the season. Right, So the sixteen player

1544
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 1: practice squad helps you massage those numbers a little bit.

1545
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: But I I mean, I suppose you could always have

1546
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: a six linebacker on the practice squad and if you

1547
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 1: need them to just bring them up, right, that's an

1548
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: option too. So we'll see how it plays out. But

1549
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 1: I don't think there is thinned linebacker as some might believe.

1550
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 2: No, I don't, because you.

1551
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: Go Milano Bernard and then for me it's Dorian Williams

1552
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 1: and maybe Dion Jones, and then you still have players

1553
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: in the fold like Specter Ulefotio and then Nick Morrow,

1554
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 1: the veteran, and then even beyond that, you know you've

1555
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: got the the undrafted kids like Andres and the local kid.

1556
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: So there are I think there are more options this

1557
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 1: year than we saw.

1558
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 2: I agree with you, there are more guys I trust

1559
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 2: to get on the field and not just get on

1560
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 2: the field, but get on the field and actually makes

1561
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 2: them make something happen. Dorian Williams, Nick Morrow and Dion

1562
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 2: Jones are three guys. Jones and Morrow obviously have some chops.

1563
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 2: Now you can say they maybe passed their.

1564
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: Prime, and Morrow's a little long in the two.

1565
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 2: But I'll say this, I'll say this, though those guys

1566
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 2: are it's not gonna be too big for him. They're

1567
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna play. Other than that. If if say,

1568
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 2: for instance, if Morow and Jones don't make the club,

1569
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 2: it's going to be because of their athleticism on special

1570
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 2: teams and that kind of thing.

1571
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,520
Speaker 1: Or it's gonna be because somebody like that's rises pleasantly

1572
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 1: and says I'm ready to take a bigger role on.

1573
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 2: This Specter's been on the team for a minute, he

1574
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 2: should know all the all the x's and o's stuff

1575
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: and be there at the end. Uh, he's been on

1576
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,719
Speaker 2: the team, he's been covering kicks and on the return

1577
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 2: teams as well. But guys like that, you've got to

1578
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 2: make yourself as valuable as you can't as you can

1579
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 2: on down a distance plays, not just special teams. So

1580
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 2: there's a lot in this that I would say this though,

1581
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 2: given you know, Dorian Williams is a perfect example. If

1582
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 2: you're gonna be on the on the team as a

1583
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 2: linebacker and you're down the list, your athleticism is gonna

1584
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 2: do it. I don't think they're gonna keep a guy

1585
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 2: like aj Klein, or maybe even a Vic Morrow or

1586
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 2: Deon Jones if they can't really do it athletically.

1587
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

1588
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: Dion Jones was a supreme athlete coming out of school,

1589
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 1: and I still think he has some juice.

1590
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 2: Right, which is why a chance, which is what got

1591
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 2: him signed by the Bills. That plus his experience.

1592
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: Matt on the Tweets Sheet says the biggest threat to

1593
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 1: the Bills in the AFC East is themselves. There's too

1594
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 1: much talent to not win it all. If they can

1595
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 1: stay out of their own heads. They have just as

1596
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 1: much a chance, if not more, than other teams to

1597
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 1: hoist the Lombardi Trophy. I don't think there's I think

1598
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 1: their mindset is totally fine. I don't think there's a

1599
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 1: situation here where you can argue that, ah, the team

1600
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 1: isn't mentally tough enough. I think they are because that's

1601
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 1: the mindset that Sean McDermott portrays onto these players, and

1602
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 1: he's working on that on a daily basis. I think

1603
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: with the new young cores and the younger players behind them,

1604
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 1: you don't know what you don't know. So maybe you

1605
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: have some players on this roster with a little less

1606
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 1: playoff experience. I don't know if that's a bad thing,

1607
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 1: and light it had the last few years have ended.

1608
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get to the point where and it's a

1609
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 2: little bit like the national narrative. I think people are

1610
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 2: counting the Bills out mostly because they're tired of looking

1611
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 2: at them and they want somebody else to come in

1612
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 2: and actually do something different. Yeah, and the Bills win

1613
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 2: in a playoff game, and then they're out. Win a

1614
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 2: playoff game, then they're out win a playoff game, then

1615
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 2: they're out win a playoff game, then they're out. They've

1616
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 2: done it for too many years and people are just

1617
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 2: tired of it, so they kind of say, all right,

1618
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 2: I want something else to happen, and they're going to

1619
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 2: try and speak it into existence. I'm with you, though, Brownie.

1620
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 2: I think fresh eyes and fresh energy go a long

1621
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 2: way towards changing the outcome.

1622
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 1: Mason on the tweet sheet says the biggest threat to

1623
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo is our offense getting off to a slow start

1624
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 1: and having the Bills drop a couple of games early

1625
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 1: on in the season, forcing them to have to go

1626
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 1: on a run late in the year like we did

1627
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 1: last year.

1628
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 2: Good point.

1629
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 1: I understand that concern. But let me pose this and

1630
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 1: tell you. Tell me what you think, Steve. Okay, let's

1631
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 1: just say, hypothetically, through the course of training camp and

1632
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:01,759
Speaker 1: maybe even a stretch of the preseason, the passing game

1633
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 1: is not gelling with all the new pieces as well

1634
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 1: as they had hoped. Right, Let's just say hypothetically that

1635
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: is taking place. Is there any reason to think they

1636
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 1: can't turn to what they turned to last year when

1637
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 1: they were in must win situations at six and six

1638
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 1: and went six and one down the stretch and ran

1639
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: the football fifty two percent of the time. That fallback option,

1640
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: in my mind, still exists. The offensive line is virtually unchanged.

1641
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna have five of the top six

1642
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 1: guys in the starting lineup, presumably barring injury. You still

1643
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: have a kid that finished sixth in total yards through

1644
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 1: scrimmage in the backfield, and James Cook and he's got

1645
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 1: a beast behind him, and Tyg Johnson and a rookie

1646
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 1: upstart and Ray Davis and a team that proved they

1647
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 1: could run the football. So if your passing game isn't

1648
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: where you want it to be at the beginning of

1649
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 1: the season, the run game can buy you time up

1650
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 1: until it clicks, whether it takes two games, three games,

1651
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 1: four games. I mean, is that outlandish to think I.

1652
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 2: Don't think I get it. They've got enough offensively. You're right,

1653
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 2: They've got enough under their hood to win multiple multiple

1654
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 2: different ways. Short pass, long pass, run game, you know,

1655
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 2: you name it, tight ends involved, wide outs involved. They've

1656
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 2: got more ways. So if the offense does struggle coming

1657
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 2: out of the gate, I'll say this, they don't have

1658
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:26,759
Speaker 2: an excuse that they should. Their offensive line is intact

1659
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 2: and even better. James Cook is a proven commodity. Ty

1660
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:35,799
Speaker 2: Johnson behind him is a proven commodity. Knox, Kincaid Shakir

1661
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 2: are proven commodities. You've got Curtis Samuel, who is at

1662
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 2: least at least a serviceable wide receiver in the National

1663
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 2: Football League to go along with all those other guys.

1664
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 2: There's no excuse for this offense getting off to a

1665
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 2: slow start. Now you can say that you know they

1666
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 2: can play some good teams. I mean, you know, you

1667
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 2: can go as far as you want with that. But

1668
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 2: they're playing the Cardinals, the Dolphins out of the gate,

1669
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 2: the Jaguars, and the Ravens. The Jaguars they've struggled with historically,

1670
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 2: and the Ravens are always good. They're going to be

1671
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 2: a contender. But you can't tell me there's any excuse

1672
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 2: that I'll listen to outside of something you know off

1673
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 2: the page, off the menu, that they should struggle offensively. No,

1674
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 2: they may not score thirty five a game, but there's

1675
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 2: nothing that says they shouldn't pick up right where they

1676
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 2: left off a year ago or eight months ago at

1677
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 2: the end of the season if they do. If they do,

1678
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 2: they you can chalk up the season their offense has

1679
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 2: to come out and play well, and it should and

1680
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 2: they should expect to. They've got guys that can do it.

1681
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:46,879
Speaker 2: They got a quarterback can do it, their offensive coordinator

1682
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 2: proven over the second half of a season and must

1683
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 2: win situation. They're doing it. So there's no excuse Steph Diggs,

1684
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 2: Gabe Davis even include throw them in. There's no excuse

1685
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 2: for that excuse.

1686
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: Break time for us here, one final segment to go,

1687
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,759
Speaker 1: some final thoughts on the tweet sheet, and a shout

1688
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:20,759
Speaker 1: out next here on One Bill's Live. Stay with us

1689
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,879
Speaker 1: all right back here on One Bill's Live on a Thursday,

1690
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 1: got a little shout out we want to give to

1691
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 1: one of our loyal listeners slash viewers up in Niagara Falls, Michelle.

1692
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in each and every day. We appreciate

1693
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 1: your listenership and viewership. If you tune us in on

1694
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 1: MSG or on WGR on the radio side of the dial,

1695
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us each and every day. We appreciate

1696
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 1: your support, So thanks for doing that. One final thought

1697
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet here, and this one comes from

1698
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 1: of all people, Sabers Bills ninety two. What could be

1699
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 1: the biggest threat to the Bills in the AFC East.

1700
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 1: They say it's the Jets defense and they added some

1701
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 1: solid o line. Yeah, they did get some veteran play

1702
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:02,839
Speaker 1: on the line at the tackle positions in Morgan Moses

1703
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 1: and in Tyron Smith who was let go by the Cowboys.

1704
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 1: Both of them are a little long in the tooth,

1705
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 1: much like Aaron Rodgers. Do they get through seventeen game season.

1706
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:15,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll have to see. And they do

1707
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 1: have a swing tackle, as our guest Adam Rank mentioned,

1708
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: in Olshanu, their first round draft choice, who is a

1709
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 1: quality player. He's going to be their starter eventually at

1710
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,959
Speaker 1: one or one spot or the other at the tackle positions.

1711
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 1: But for now they're using veterans to go for it here.

1712
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 1: We'll see if it makes a.

1713
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 2: Bit that kids on the field.

1714
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: Week one, Wow, this is not lost on me, Steve.

1715
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 1: Week one, Jets at Niners and it's a primetime game.

1716
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: I can't remember if it's Sunday night or Monday night.

1717
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 1: I think here's what you know. Who's going to be

1718
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 1: rushing the passer? Bosa, Leonard Floyd, the guy that injured

1719
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers last year.

1720
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 2: We'll see.

1721
01:29:56,720 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 1: We'll see it tomorrow at one