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Speaker 1: So how are you living, buddy? How you doing?
Speaker 3: How would you react if I walked behind me, ripped
Speaker 3: all the bats off my wall, started kicking the wall
Speaker 3: and punching the wall. How would you react to that?
Speaker 3: What would you think? I would be amused that you
Speaker 3: would think I'm a crazy person. What if I also
Speaker 3: told you I made millions and millions and millions of
Speaker 3: dollars as a professional, and I went in to a
Speaker 3: place where kids are just trying to learn how to be,
Speaker 3: you know, adults and professionals, and I went in and
Speaker 3: I destroyed their building because I got a couple of
Speaker 3: calls on the outside of the strike zone. That's all
Speaker 3: I'm saying here, What would you do? What would I'm
Speaker 3: a crazy person? Yes, and his also name is Chris,
Speaker 3: but it's a different last name.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well, you know, you know, totally normal, totally
Speaker 2: you know, it's just fine, it's fine, you know, it's.
Speaker 3: I think everybody think that's up. That sounds like everybody
Speaker 3: around him his camp being like, it's fine, he's fine,
Speaker 3: don't worry, he'll be okay. As he literally tear it
Speaker 3: was like tearing off pieces of wall or something, destroying
Speaker 3: Chris Sale went bonkers. If everybody doesn't know, and I
Speaker 3: know we're gonna.
Speaker 1: He did, and uh, he's not the first guy. The
Speaker 1: last guy, which I remember who was?
Speaker 2: It took the back to the gatorade bottle like a
Speaker 2: thousand times to the jug.
Speaker 1: You know remember that. I forget it was And he
Speaker 1: just went back and forth like he was chopping down
Speaker 1: a tree. I can't remember. I think that's health.
Speaker 3: I think that's healthy. Take a bat to a gatorade jug.
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of clean up there's not a
Speaker 3: big financial issue, but going back in a dugout and
Speaker 3: absolutely tearing off the wall, tearing off boards and what
Speaker 3: looks like like hold like he tore everything off. Chris
Speaker 3: Sales got to take a chill pill. He's got to
Speaker 3: calm down just a tiny bit, like just the Eancy
Speaker 3: bean Sea bit. But you know what I will say,
Speaker 3: I'm kind of jacked up for him to get back
Speaker 3: into the major league. I'm kind of excited to get
Speaker 3: that energy back into a rotation.
Speaker 2: That's the difference right there, and that's the kind of
Speaker 2: energy we're bringing the Crysale energy today to the show.
Speaker 2: Let's start with Chris Sale in his five walks, and
Speaker 2: the rehabs start certainly taking out his frustration, no doubt
Speaker 2: about that. Darren Ruff at a pinch at game, tying homer,
Speaker 2: and then you had Josiah Gray twirling a gem of
Speaker 2: the Phillies, kyleege Schwarber going yard not once but twice.
Speaker 1: Man KYLEI. Swarber.
Speaker 2: Every day it feels like we're talking about Kylie s
Speaker 2: Warber hitting bombs. Christian Javier was touched up for five
Speaker 2: runs though against Case, So another bad night at dfs'
Speaker 2: two nights in a row. Not very happy about this Showiotani,
Speaker 2: though happy about that ten strikeouts, another sho hel Tani
Speaker 2: jem another Showyotani moment where he continues to show out
Speaker 2: your thoughts on shool Tani and the MVP race after
Speaker 2: get another big out.
Speaker 3: Oh have it. I mean, we can't do it every
Speaker 3: single freaking show, but I feel like I want to. Look.
Speaker 3: This is I think a four straight scoreless starts. He's
Speaker 3: had a streak. He's got going on three straight, he's
Speaker 3: got double digits on strikeouts. He has been a monster.
Speaker 3: And Atani's kind of in that, like, you know, there's
Speaker 3: a couple of guys we have to start clicking into,
Speaker 3: like who are your don't even need to do research
Speaker 3: type of guys at this point for betting see McClanahan strikeouts,
Speaker 3: you just go over. I think Jordan Alvarez has kind
Speaker 3: of almost dropped into that total base marker where you
Speaker 3: can just take his over and Otani, yeah, he's always
Speaker 3: kind of lived in that. But there's that little streak
Speaker 3: at this point. Whatever number they throw at you today
Speaker 3: on the board, man, who is it? I'm drawing a
Speaker 3: blank who it is? But there's an eight and a
Speaker 3: half on the board. I think it's Dylan c So
Speaker 3: I think that's who it is. There's an eight and
Speaker 3: a half strikeout marker that's on the board to take today.
Speaker 3: That's a big number. The guys like McClanahan and Darvish
Speaker 3: are the ones. You can take that with even cease
Speaker 3: at this point and you chalk it up to the
Speaker 3: game if you don't hit it, but they hit more
Speaker 3: often than not. That Tani just one an absolute fricking roll.
Speaker 2: The Otani number, by the way, on betting pros is
Speaker 2: two and a half in the consensus Aaron Judge at
Speaker 2: minus one ten. Uh but on Fanuel, it's all the
Speaker 2: way show Hey Otani yet two? So well, okay, so
Speaker 2: them is two point two forty right now, what's.
Speaker 3: The judge on on FanDuel?
Speaker 1: The judge is even, So that's not that GM minus
Speaker 1: one ten.
Speaker 3: That's a really interesting point is Otani hasn't really well Fandal,
Speaker 3: he's moved if he's to two and he has moved.
Speaker 3: He hasn't really moved on DK, but Judge has even
Speaker 3: though Judge it is thirtieth home run, he's moved to
Speaker 3: even like less or even money less predominant on the minus.
Speaker 3: So he's the trajectory that's moving, not even Darbish, not
Speaker 3: even Otani at this point, which I think is pretty
Speaker 3: fascinating as we go.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: And also Paul Goldschman is at even right now on
Speaker 2: the consenses line. So and I remember I think we
Speaker 2: were getting in on him, what twelve to one, ten
Speaker 2: to one. I think we try to warn everybody at
Speaker 2: nine that was probably going in that direction. But I mean,
Speaker 2: it's even money now. And Machado slipped all the way
Speaker 2: to five hundred, where Peter A. Lonzo was a plus
Speaker 2: five fifty. And that's at betting pros dot com. If
Speaker 2: you want to check out all those lines, obviously they
Speaker 2: are there for you. Other headlines from yesterday, Max Freed
Speaker 2: six shutout frames against the cards, Bobashett itt a go ahead, Homer.
Speaker 2: How about a lot of Bobashett headlin this year? I
Speaker 2: feel like, what not so much, you know, not so
Speaker 2: much the bobushed headlines this year?
Speaker 1: Also the Orioles Prospect.
Speaker 3: D L.
Speaker 1: Hall struck out fourteen guys at Norfolk.
Speaker 2: Now. Dal Hall is a guy that had some command issues,
Speaker 2: but certainly has the electric stuff as the kids like
Speaker 2: to say, any profile stuff you want to share with
Speaker 2: him as somebody that people should be adding maybe for
Speaker 2: August and September perhaps is do you think Dale Hall
Speaker 2: gets a shot at some big league starts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think on the back half of the year.
Speaker 3: He's one of those guys. He's just missed a ton
Speaker 3: of time over the last couple of years, and I
Speaker 3: think that's something that holds back a little bit. But
Speaker 3: when you've got you know, their main catcher, when you've
Speaker 3: got Ali Reschmand up in the majors, I think it
Speaker 3: allows them and maybe makes them feel more comfortable bringing
Speaker 3: up some of these younger guys on shorter stints. They
Speaker 3: just need consistency out of DL. Hall actually did a
Speaker 3: draft with Eric Cross, who writes over Fantasy Pros, and
Speaker 3: James Anderson. This is on one of Eric's podcast when
Speaker 3: we were drafting prospects starting pitchers, and I took d L.
Speaker 3: Hall in that. I think it was like my fifth
Speaker 3: or sixth starting pitcher in this picture draft for prospects.
Speaker 3: Because I think he's a big, big strikeout guy. I
Speaker 3: think there's more relief risk in him than there is
Speaker 3: with Grayson. But Grayson's not an option here and dial
Speaker 3: Hall totally is. So I think probably like a mid August,
Speaker 3: I could see them a little cup of coffee preparing
Speaker 3: for next year. That is a definite possibility for people
Speaker 3: want to look out. And you know, the only thing
Speaker 3: I wanted to bring up. I've been talking a lot.
Speaker 3: We did this over and in this league. You and
Speaker 3: I've kind of done it about these different values of
Speaker 3: player versus player and stuff like that. And we did
Speaker 3: one yesterday where we were talking redraft of Julio Rodriguez
Speaker 3: versus Juan Soto, which I'd fascinating results, Joe, But it
Speaker 3: got me thinking about the Bobaschett thing. Where would you
Speaker 3: go Bobaschett versus Julio Rodriguez right now, twenty four year
Speaker 3: old Bobaschett, who's done it big time in Dynasty, when
Speaker 3: you go Julio.
Speaker 1: I have no hesitation with Julio. I just think Julio
Speaker 1: was that complete package player.
Speaker 2: And it's not the Boba Chet's not all star caliber player,
Speaker 2: but I think I look at Julio as top five
Speaker 2: major league talent.
Speaker 1: Stuff like.
Speaker 2: That's how I view Julio of what I've seen of
Speaker 2: him this year whereas Bobashett I think is a you know,
Speaker 2: arguable first second round tannel depending on how you value him,
Speaker 2: the depth of your leagues and all that stuff, depending
Speaker 2: on what you know he does in the next eighty
Speaker 2: one games. That would certainly go a long way to
Speaker 2: make me feel better. But I sput Julio in the
Speaker 2: higher tier. Personally, I disagree, And.
Speaker 3: It's not that I disagree. I mean, what Julio is
Speaker 3: doing is incredible. But let me give you a line
Speaker 3: twenty nine homers, twenty five stolen bases, one hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty one runs, one hundred and two RBI with a
Speaker 3: two ninety eight batting average that you would kill to
Speaker 3: have as a Julio Rodriguez line and seems very obtainable.
Speaker 3: That was Bobashett last year. That was bobashev twenty twenty
Speaker 3: one line last year. So my only point.
Speaker 2: To is some of that came in in those you know,
Speaker 2: rinky dig ballparks too.
Speaker 3: They played one hundred percent. I'm and I'm not advocating
Speaker 3: for it because I have Julio Rodriguez over him, but
Speaker 3: I think it's really interesting where we are and I
Speaker 3: feel like Bobaschet like you said, like we've been talking
Speaker 3: about him right now, and you know, he's really played
Speaker 3: at such a lower perform level that I think his
Speaker 3: dynasty value is maybe at an all time low two
Speaker 3: fifty thirteen homers, five stolen bases, but he's still projecting
Speaker 3: out to be, you know, maybe a twenty fifteen guy
Speaker 3: with two seventy batting average if he doesn't really really
Speaker 3: pick it up. So the Bobachet stuff I find really interesting.
Speaker 3: And you know, maybe even in the bye territory, like
Speaker 3: is he a bye on the back hound?
Speaker 1: He's definitely a bye. You know, somebody just showed me
Speaker 1: a deal.
Speaker 2: I know it's Tiosca Hernandez and and somebody else.
Speaker 1: For Boba. Sheet was like, no, you can't do that.
Speaker 1: You got to you gotta keep you know, you gotta
Speaker 1: stick with Bobachett here.
Speaker 2: And sometimes players do this where they have massive seasons
Speaker 2: very young, and then they're always kind of chasing that
Speaker 2: one year. I think Bischet's better than what he's played
Speaker 2: in the first eighty one games. With the second eighty one,
Speaker 2: let's let's see what he does. But Julio, to me,
Speaker 2: has this different feel about him, the same way I
Speaker 2: felt about Wan Soda, where I just I just want
Speaker 2: all the shares. I just want to be in on that, especially,
Speaker 2: you know, because what he's doing in the stolen base
Speaker 2: side is something. You know, this guy looks like a
Speaker 2: prototypical thirty thirty guy we haven't seen in baseball in
Speaker 2: a while that can be that kind of dude for
Speaker 2: a long time, and most people still play road leagues.
Speaker 3: Interesting. The interesting thing too, that I really give credit
Speaker 3: to Julia with is that he overcame the adversity early on,
Speaker 3: Like the league really got out of him. He got
Speaker 3: really bad strike calls. He was just being attacked in
Speaker 3: different ways. As you know, a young guy would be
Speaker 3: professionally in the majors, and he overcame them, and he's
Speaker 3: defeated it to a level. This is like a Stranger
Speaker 3: Things type of defeat. He's eleven at this point. You know,
Speaker 3: he just can you cannot take him down and continually
Speaker 3: just keeps pushing Vecna back.
Speaker 1: All right, it's it's good. Look, it's good. It's good.
Speaker 2: Jonathan India departs after a hit by pitch on the foot.
Speaker 2: We had Bobby with Junior out of the case lineup
Speaker 2: again today and Kyle Tucker getting the day off as
Speaker 2: well today, so was Joey Vados.
Speaker 1: So just if you're playing those daily leagues, just make
Speaker 1: sure you got that. Let's go to the mail bag.
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Speaker 1: Let's see what's inside the bag. Here you go.
Speaker 2: This is from Derek from Texas a AC. What are
Speaker 2: some strategies for rebuilding dynasty teams? Who are some current
Speaker 2: prospects that you would build around?
Speaker 3: Welsh Well, I would build around Juli Rodriguez if you
Speaker 3: had a choice. Sure, yeah, that would be an obvious one.
Speaker 3: Let me pull up my prospect list here to give
Speaker 3: you a couple guys. The main strategy, by the way,
Speaker 3: I would say, is acquire the best possible while also
Speaker 3: looking for the best volume. I think a lot of
Speaker 3: people get very hyper focused on I need all these dudes,
Speaker 3: but make sure you're getting like, really substantial players. Players
Speaker 3: I would want to build around right now, Corby and
Speaker 3: Carroll Jordan Walker with the Cardinals is a monster's only
Speaker 3: twenty years old and he's already at double A and
Speaker 3: he's been just balling out. Gunner Henderson with Baltimore has
Speaker 3: been phenomenal. You talked about Anthony Volpi as one and
Speaker 3: if you want to go really lower, and you know
Speaker 3: Penning the how much everyone's paying attention. You know some
Speaker 3: of the hottest guys right now, Jackson Surio with the Brewers,
Speaker 3: Ellie de la Cruz with the Reds, and Ezekiel Tofar
Speaker 3: with Colorado. These are all some of the biggest highest
Speaker 3: movers that you know, if they were those are guys
Speaker 3: that I would be trying to acquire if I'm trading
Speaker 3: away big like redraft pieces. You know, good players that
Speaker 3: are maybe getting a little bit older, the Goldschmids of
Speaker 3: the world, those type of guys, I would be trying
Speaker 3: to get collections of those guys.
Speaker 1: I throw Alvarez in that list from the Mets too.
Speaker 1: He's rising very quickly.
Speaker 2: That kid can play uh and look hard to find
Speaker 2: offensive catchers, so if you can find one, it's a
Speaker 2: huge win for you.
Speaker 1: Rutchman is like that too.
Speaker 2: Again, I'm always tough on catchers, and you know I am,
Speaker 2: because the transition becomes very difficult.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, that's then other piece.
Speaker 2: I would also be looking to buy a lot of
Speaker 2: the Jonathan India types, the guys that are nice players
Speaker 2: that are you know, not having good sophomore year, like
Speaker 2: kurell Off India, like all those dudes. I'd be trying
Speaker 2: to get a bunch of those guys on the cheap
Speaker 2: two if I was really building.
Speaker 3: Such a great point hit on one of them that
Speaker 3: I could.
Speaker 1: They're more cost effective to get.
Speaker 2: It's going to cost you a lot to get Julia,
Speaker 2: It's gonna cost you a lot to get you know, uh,
Speaker 2: a lot of these prospects that Welsh is talking about.
Speaker 1: So for me, that's what I would go.
Speaker 2: I would start finding these major league ready guys that
Speaker 2: are still young, that are still kind of finding their way.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good path as well.
Speaker 3: The only thing I would add too, what's interesting in
Speaker 3: the place I think we are in prospects is we
Speaker 3: don't have the I don't think we have the crazy guys.
Speaker 3: I don't think we have the guys that push the
Speaker 3: envelope of I have generational talents that are near the top.
Speaker 3: Not to say I love Riley Green and Corbyn, Carrol,
Speaker 3: But we don't have the Julios, we don't have the
Speaker 3: Wander Francos. They don't have any of those guys. So
Speaker 3: I think the top is more accessible than it's ever
Speaker 3: been because it's not quite locked in. And then I
Speaker 3: think what people are holding on to is some more
Speaker 3: of the like outside the top fifteen, the really young
Speaker 3: guys that people don't want to trade. So I think
Speaker 3: it's actually a really weird time for prospects that you
Speaker 3: just go throw out there, get a couple of guys.
Speaker 3: But I love the idea of get the kiroll Offs,
Speaker 3: get the India's Hell, Wander Franco is probably cheaper than
Speaker 3: he has been in the last year right now, just
Speaker 3: because the.
Speaker 2: As another guy with throwing that grouping two Llois missed
Speaker 2: a lot of time. Like that's a that's a great player.
Speaker 2: You can probably get a significant discount. See what happens
Speaker 2: is he comes back. All right, let's talk about this.
Speaker 2: The Orioles became the first team in Major League Baseball
Speaker 2: history to give up but go ahead or tying home
Speaker 2: run the seventh, eighth, and ninth and still get a win.
Speaker 1: So there you have it. That's certainly a good time.
Speaker 2: I want to take a look at this also because
Speaker 2: I want to take a look at some of the
Speaker 2: leader boards here. Halfway through the season, we have Tony
Speaker 2: Gonsoon the era of one five to four. This is unsustainable. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's at the very top. I'm telling you right now,
Speaker 2: Martin Perez a two point three four. He's the eighth guy.
Speaker 1: Overall.
Speaker 2: The rest of the guys in the top ten are five,
Speaker 2: but it's Gonsol at the top at one five to four.
Speaker 2: We have to be aware of this. You have to
Speaker 2: start shopping him. He's been in the video like three times.
Speaker 2: I feel like this year, and he keeps pitching well,
Speaker 2: and I know he's ten and zero and I get
Speaker 2: all that, But at the same time, it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: look ahead, You've got to start looking ahead. And then
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about this too. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: at the top here of the board for home runs,
Speaker 2: we've got Judge at thirty Schwarber at twenty seven, both
Speaker 2: eighty games into the season. Now for those guys, so
Speaker 2: here's my question. Do either of these guys make it
Speaker 2: to fifty in your opinion?
Speaker 3: I think Judge does. Yeah, I think that's a I
Speaker 3: almost think that's like a four. I think that's like
Speaker 3: a lock. It's four. One.
Speaker 1: Conclude about Alvarez twenty five?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I actually think Alvarez is a better
Speaker 3: shot than Kyle Schwarber does, even though I know Schwarber's
Speaker 3: just been bonkers. It's just a two twenty six batting average.
Speaker 3: That's that's tough to maintain the entire season consistently through
Speaker 3: to keep hitting those homers with a bad batting average.
Speaker 3: He could get there. I wouldn't like be shocked if
Speaker 3: you told me he got there. But I think Jordan
Speaker 3: Alvarez can get there. He's already halfway home with over
Speaker 3: three hundred bating average. I missed a little time, judge,
Speaker 3: you know, far beyond that. I think those two are
Speaker 3: fifty homer shots for sure.
Speaker 2: Byron Buckston stats on the air twenty two homer co
Speaker 2: hold on, I'm not choosing violence. I want to take
Speaker 2: the temperature. Twenty two homers. That's very good, forty RBI,
Speaker 2: forty six runs scored. He's played sixty four games. He
Speaker 2: has just two stone bases hit in two eighteen. What
Speaker 2: grade would you give Byron bucks In with the two
Speaker 2: eighteen batting average, the eight forty five ops and the
Speaker 2: stats that I threw out there for you, how would
Speaker 2: you gree the season so far?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say it's like a bus Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: what I think too. Yeah, he's good. He's doing what
Speaker 3: he was doing last year, except there's no contact being
Speaker 3: made and whatever is going on with his approach there.
Speaker 3: That's the main problem with him. And by the way,
Speaker 3: that point is something right there that I put in
Speaker 3: the cell column over and Fantasy pros as Gonsolin has
Speaker 3: not only a over two run differential between his Sierra
Speaker 3: and x FIP to his era, but he also the
Speaker 3: lowest qualified pitcher babbitt to any hitter is Gonsolin. And
Speaker 3: what it's under two hundred. The only pitcher that's pitching
Speaker 3: two two hundred babit is Tony Gonslin. That's going to change.
Speaker 3: The run differential is going to change. That's why I
Speaker 3: kind of out. And unfortunately, you know Buckston as well, man,
Speaker 3: you can't have an under three hundred obpm be a superstar.
Speaker 3: He has all the skill sets, but apparently, you know,
Speaker 3: the contact ability has completely changed, and we'd be having
Speaker 3: a completely different discussion if he was hitting two eighty
Speaker 3: even if the stolen bases were gone because oh yeah,
Speaker 3: he would be in this same marker as these other guys.
Speaker 2: He had to give you the steals or the batting average.
Speaker 2: Not giving you both, I think hurts because you can
Speaker 2: find twenty two home runs and you can find that
Speaker 2: in different spots. You drafted Bucksing because you thought you
Speaker 2: get the steals at least, but you're not getting that.
Speaker 1: So but look another eighty one games. We'll see what
Speaker 1: happens there. Uh. Fun facts, we got two of them today.
Speaker 2: First one from Sarah Langs, who does great work on Mlbuh.
Speaker 2: Joey Otani is the first player since RBI became an
Speaker 2: official stat in nineteen twenty with ten plus strikeouts, multiple
Speaker 2: RBI and stolen bases in a single game.
Speaker 1: There you go. You like that, I know you love
Speaker 1: the first time ever?
Speaker 3: One first time ever? Yeah, look at those and it
Speaker 3: said I've have had almost that combo with one RBI instead,
Speaker 3: And it's just a bunch of people no one knows about.
Speaker 3: And Bob Gibson.
Speaker 2: It's Bob Gibson, It's Whitey Ford, it's it's pitchers. Also,
Speaker 2: fun fact, speaking of the Angels, don't know how fun
Speaker 2: this is. The Baltimore Orioles have more wins than the
Speaker 2: Angels have this year. Just want to I want to
Speaker 2: marinate on that for a moment. That is a huge disappointment.
Speaker 2: You have the reigning MVP who also pitches, You have
Speaker 2: Mike Trout, and you have thirty eight wins on the year.
Speaker 1: Welch, that is depressing.
Speaker 3: Well, and you've also got the reigning MVP potential free
Speaker 3: agent after next season and Goka walk. At some point
Speaker 3: they got to put up a shut up with this team.
Speaker 3: And this is a collection of wildly bad choices from
Speaker 3: Noah Sinderguard to Anthony Rindon and the money that they're
Speaker 3: putting in that there's gonna be a point where this
Speaker 3: team is gonna make a decision on who are we
Speaker 3: and what are we Not that I'm not not doing
Speaker 3: the whole like do you trade Trout type of stuff,
Speaker 3: but it's like, what are you doing with this team?
Speaker 3: You're just gonna sit sit in this space for the
Speaker 3: next eight years with Mike Trout and a bunch of
Speaker 3: other people. Otani could be gone. You've never retooled. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: with how baseball is, you can spend money, but you
Speaker 3: have to retool the Cubs are a prime example right
Speaker 3: now is they had to get some pieces that can
Speaker 3: get in. They have to see what they've got. They
Speaker 3: got to replenish their minor league system and then they
Speaker 3: can go out and spend the money when the free
Speaker 3: agency is right. The Angels consistently do it wrong.
Speaker 1: Well, they also what you do.
Speaker 2: The farm system has been the biggest letdown too, because
Speaker 2: that's the thing you keep looking for.
Speaker 1: It is like, where are the pictures coming through the system.
Speaker 2: When when's the last picture that's come through that system
Speaker 2: that we've been really excited about that's delivered.
Speaker 3: I mean, Redets had a real hitter, but then they
Speaker 3: got sent back down.
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm just saying like, well, no, he was
Speaker 1: a shining moment. Does not make a good picture.
Speaker 3: But he was a very mean, a predominant college pitcher.
Speaker 3: He was a very big name. He was the best
Speaker 3: pitcher in their system. Came up, had a no hitter,
Speaker 3: but they completely fell apart because he doesn't strike out
Speaker 3: anybody right, You can't just and also it's a guy
Speaker 3: that needs to pitch to contact and it ain't work
Speaker 3: because it's getting hit really hard. It takes time to adjust.
Speaker 3: Here's the other problem, they just don't have a bunch
Speaker 3: of them. Sometimes you have to have a whole cavalcade
Speaker 3: of them. You've got to be like the Tigers, where
Speaker 3: you've got unfortunately all of them aren't working for the Tigers.
Speaker 3: But you've got to have Manning and Mize and Schooble.
Speaker 3: You've got to have three, four, five, six of these guys.
Speaker 3: So if two or three work out, you've really built
Speaker 3: int your rotation. The problem is they never work out.
Speaker 3: Their player development sucks. It sucks out here in Arizona.
Speaker 3: It's been known the way they've just poorly developed players.
Speaker 3: They had every single minor leaguer doing the same batting
Speaker 3: stance where you come in and then you turn your
Speaker 3: body over. They change every single minor league's batting stance
Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen. It was at the rookie ball level.
Speaker 3: And it's just like a laughable thing that they continue
Speaker 3: to do. They can't develop pitching, they don't develop.
Speaker 1: Hitter very well.
Speaker 3: Don't look at Joe Adell, and they can't sign anybody welse.
Speaker 3: So what would you say, Angels.
Speaker 1: You do here?
Speaker 3: What would you say you do here?
Speaker 2: I mean the Angels need a complete overhaul the organization.
Speaker 2: I mean from president all the way down. I mean
Speaker 2: to me, it's just, you know, they fired the manager,
Speaker 2: and the manager ain't the problem. The problem is the
Speaker 2: front office, and the problem is the scouting department. The
Speaker 2: problem is all that other stuff.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: You got Mike Trout, you got Joey Otani, and you
Speaker 2: got nothing else to show for it, really, and it's
Speaker 2: just it's miserable.
Speaker 1: What's not miserable.
Speaker 2: Fastest players to reach fifteen home runs and twenty steals
Speaker 2: in their career Julio Rodriguez number one, eighty one games.
Speaker 1: There you have it.
Speaker 2: Number two, by the way, for fun, was Ellis Burks
Speaker 2: eighty two games and eighty seven. Then you had Barry
Speaker 2: Bonds do it in eighty six and ninety games. Eric
Speaker 2: Davis do it in ninety one games in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 2: So that's a little fun fun company there. Ellis Brooks boy,
Speaker 2: Ellis Burks was a guy who was very exciting player
Speaker 2: when he came up, and then he kind of struggled
Speaker 2: for a while and then found some second life in college.
Speaker 1: And that was a fun team. I like that version.
Speaker 1: That was a fun group of guys. This day in
Speaker 1: baseball nineteen ninety three talk about guys in their own planet.
Speaker 2: Imagine if this happened today, the social media bonanza that
Speaker 2: would happen. In nineteen eighty three, Reds pitcher Tom Browning
Speaker 2: decided that he had seen the view from the dugout
Speaker 2: for enough, and he left Wrigley Field and decided to
Speaker 2: watch the Reds beat the Cubs from a rooftop of
Speaker 2: a three story building across on Sheffield Avenue. He was
Speaker 2: fined five hundred dollars for leaving the dugout.
Speaker 1: And the ballmark during a game.
Speaker 2: But I mean that to me is hilarious, Like I
Speaker 2: could love you know, It's not something you'd see happen nowadays.
Speaker 1: It's very nineteen eighties baseball.
Speaker 2: But imagine like just Twitter and social media going nuts
Speaker 2: with a player who just decided to go watch a
Speaker 2: game up on Wriggley Field.
Speaker 3: I could see like buildings, I could see like an
Speaker 3: old actually Chris Sale. Actually, if I'm thinking about it,
Speaker 3: like you gotta have a real player that just doesn't
Speaker 3: care anymore. I'm envisioning like a closer and older closer
Speaker 3: who's just kind of like whatever, you know, they control
Speaker 3: their destiny complete like Craig Kim Craig Kimberll, just going
Speaker 3: out into the stands like I'm gonna just watch? What
Speaker 3: are you gonna do about it? Like that type of guy,
Speaker 3: But sales personality would be the player that would do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's move on here to the stat
Speaker 2: heroes and zeroes, But before we do, it's do a
Speaker 2: little trivia.
Speaker 1: Who was the last player with multiple stolen bases in
Speaker 1: an All Star game? There you go.
Speaker 2: My hint is he played or he began his career
Speaker 2: with the Chicago Cubs. That's the hint I'm giving everybody.
Speaker 2: The last player with multiple stolen bases in an All
Speaker 2: Star game is who? If you think you know, drop
Speaker 2: the name in the chat and that is over at
Speaker 2: Fantasy pros MLB. Of course, go ahead and drop that name.
Speaker 2: You have to be a subscriber in order to guess
Speaker 2: the trivia question for the day, Got any guesses?
Speaker 3: Began with the Cubs.
Speaker 1: Began with the Cubs, and this to a few other places.
Speaker 1: It's pretty recent. It's pretty recent, I will say that.
Speaker 1: So there you go. That's they you think about it.
Speaker 2: Stat Heroes Corbyn Burns ten ks, no earned and seven
Speaker 2: innings Joiotani, same thing, Corey klub or the clue Tubes.
Speaker 2: Five k's, no earned, six innings. I wonder what the
Speaker 2: Yankees think about Corey Klueber games like this. Luis Severino
Speaker 2: six innings, no earned, three strikeouts, so not the greatest
Speaker 2: strikeout night for him. Was good for Josiah Gray with
Speaker 2: eleven You got the good Jose Barrios this week, hooray
Speaker 2: six innings, one earned, six k's and Mitch White six
Speaker 2: k's in five and two thirds. The hitters last night,
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge three for four with a bomb forri Polonko
Speaker 2: two dingers. Nice to see Polonko hitting two, Kyle Schwarber
Speaker 2: hitting two. Brandon Nimo, who's been very solid this year,
Speaker 2: three for five with a homer, three RBI, three runs scored.
Speaker 2: Aaron Hicks two for two with a homer. He was
Speaker 2: one of our lineup fielders yesterday. Hunter Dozer two for
Speaker 2: three with a homer. Gio Orchella three for five with
Speaker 2: a homer. Luis Robert, who has not been on this
Speaker 2: list enough this year. He was my early MVP. Long
Speaker 2: shot Boyle Boy was that terrible one home run. Thank goodness.
Speaker 2: I made other pivots and movements. Andrew Benin Tenny two
Speaker 2: for three as well with a stolen base, so he
Speaker 2: got any answers there, Peanuts and cracker jacks. Let's see
Speaker 2: Jan Pierre is incorrect.
Speaker 1: That is not right. Uh, but somebody says Soriano that
Speaker 1: is also not correct.
Speaker 3: Came in my mind. But he was a Yankee. He
Speaker 3: started with Star with.
Speaker 1: The Cubs and is not correct either, nor did he
Speaker 1: start with the Cubs. So there you go.
Speaker 3: Rizzo was a Red Sox and then all right, let's
Speaker 3: do the zeros.
Speaker 2: We'll give some people supports on Christian Haavier five earned bad,
Speaker 2: Shane Bieber five earned bad, Lance Land five earned bad,
Speaker 2: all five innings for all three of those, Derek hall
Speaker 2: O four with four k's, Jock Peterson four with three
Speaker 2: same for Dylan Carlson, J T Real Muto, Jeremy Pania,
Speaker 2: and Byron Buxton with two k's of his own batting
Speaker 2: average down to two eighteen and the obp.
Speaker 1: A sterling two nine three not good, not good, not good.
Speaker 2: The answer to the trivia question, by the way, if
Speaker 2: you all want it or you want to keep guessing.
Speaker 3: We're nine, it's ruining everything for the show for me, So.
Speaker 1: I need to know who it is now, Starlin Castro, Starling.
Speaker 3: He wasn't. Didn't you say outfielder?
Speaker 1: No, I said, I said, who started?
Speaker 3: Yeah you didn't. I think I just didn't. I know.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I injected it into my brain. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying for some reason outfielder was in my head
Speaker 3: and I let that stick. Starlin Castro had multiple stolen
Speaker 3: bases and all he made the All Star Game.
Speaker 1: That was the start.
Speaker 2: It might have been one of those like one representative things,
Speaker 2: you know, like you get that like that one guy.
Speaker 3: The Brewers. Yeah, okay, that happens sometimes.
Speaker 1: Here's a question for you for the Pantzon Cracker Jacks.
Speaker 1: This is from Cooper. What's up, guys? What do you
Speaker 1: think of de Grom's value? Right now?
Speaker 2: Someone offered de Grom and Louis Robert for Trout and Streder.
Speaker 2: Strider has the RP eligibility, so it makes it interesting.
Speaker 1: Thanks, guys. So what side would you want to be on?
Speaker 2: Would you want de Graam and Robert or Trout and
Speaker 2: Strider rest of season? Obviously we'll just call it redraft here.
Speaker 3: I would I think it is so risky. But Grom
Speaker 3: and Robert. I'm I had a big old discussion about
Speaker 3: this yesterday, this kind of piggyback what you and I
Speaker 3: talked about the whole Max and Value conversation where you
Speaker 3: de Gram as well. De Groom's a couple weeks away,
Speaker 3: but like you should really start thinking about what level
Speaker 3: do you think he'll be on his return and do
Speaker 3: you live in a world where you have to be concerned.
Speaker 2: With if you're giving me like I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: feel warm and fuzzy about Strider. If that picture was
Speaker 2: Charlie Morton instead, maybe that gets it done for me.
Speaker 2: But Strider to me is still very big.
Speaker 3: On I'm assuming he had you know what. I don't
Speaker 3: think he said what so by the way he said,
Speaker 3: it's a points league, so de Grom like all day
Speaker 3: every day.
Speaker 1: That's the other thing too, and the points league always
Speaker 1: want the picture typically.
Speaker 3: But whichever side is that side? So I don't know
Speaker 3: if you were being offered that, take it if someone
Speaker 3: wants it, No, it's not enough. I would keep I
Speaker 3: would just keep de Graam at this point, because I
Speaker 3: think that's one of the things I suggested people go
Speaker 3: out and start fishing around and see if you can
Speaker 3: get to gram. I would not be moving my de
Speaker 3: Grom because you theoretically might be getting the best pitcher
Speaker 3: back in baseball, and Robert for Trout can be a
Speaker 3: theoretical wash.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's take a look at the home run board.
Speaker 1: Same thing. High.
Speaker 2: Koby's still at the top of thirty one. We've got
Speaker 2: a bunch of people. We've got Drew and a bunch
Speaker 2: of others tied for eighth at twenty four. Delgadillo is
Speaker 2: still there too, Mike Marisol hovering around. So a lot
Speaker 2: of change there. But certainly we need to get some
Speaker 2: new now it's some new names out there.
Speaker 1: I want to see.
Speaker 2: It's funny that board's gotten very stagnant this week, so
Speaker 2: there's a chance here for people to make some ketchup.
Speaker 1: I hope some people like Kyle Schwarburg yesterday and see
Speaker 1: what's going on there.
Speaker 2: Let's get to BETMGM because it's the king. Hold on,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I've got wires around my crown. Welsh,
Speaker 2: you can't have wires around the crown.
Speaker 1: Look at this.
Speaker 2: This is what happens when you work at Fantasy Bros.
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Speaker 2: today one and a half plus one ten.
Speaker 1: I like that. Joe musk Grove six and a half.
Speaker 2: It's a high number on fandul for ks, I want
Speaker 2: it minus one fifty two, don't care. Justin Verlander six
Speaker 2: and a half. K's is the number two against KC
Speaker 2: it's plus one oh eight. I would take the dip there, Welsh,
Speaker 2: anybody in particular stick out to you on the prop market.
Speaker 3: Yes, the Otani and Verlander one. I like Verlander. I
Speaker 3: think I might like the most. I almost put this
Speaker 3: on my list the two that I got for you today.
Speaker 3: Tony Gonsolin versus the Cubs. Cubs have been striking out
Speaker 3: a little bit more over the last three I believe
Speaker 3: it's been eleven k's over the last three games. They've
Speaker 3: been averaging per game. Tony Gonsolin. It's at five and
Speaker 3: a half and it's gonna be close to plus money.
Speaker 3: The betting pros has got you on the under. I
Speaker 3: like the over, so it's gonna be a little bit
Speaker 3: over on plus money over on DK. Five and a half.
Speaker 3: Tony Gonslin and probably my favorite of the day, Austin
Speaker 3: Riley total bases. It's only a tiny bit juice minus
Speaker 3: one twenty seven. Five of six games in July, he
Speaker 3: has multi hit games, so give me the total base
Speaker 3: over one and a half on Austin Freakin' Riley. It's
Speaker 3: a great matchup for a lot of different braves today,
Speaker 3: but Riley, this one specifically gets me going.
Speaker 1: Yeah and Austin Riley spoiler alert, it's gonna be my
Speaker 1: home run call for the day.
Speaker 2: Let's fly through some dfs on DK. Garrett cole is
Speaker 2: at ten point two against the Red Sox. Very expensive,
Speaker 2: He's gonna be chalky, I think, regardless. I'd rather have
Speaker 2: Spencer Streider as my secondary arm at eight and a
Speaker 2: half and then play around with the combinations of Cease,
Speaker 2: Musgrove and Gonsolin. Gonsolin's nine to four, Musgrove Is nine
Speaker 2: to seven, Ceases nine to eight. I'd have three lineups,
Speaker 2: one with each with Spencer Strider as the secondary arm
Speaker 2: on DK.
Speaker 1: On FanDuel.
Speaker 2: Strider at eight point six is fine, and then you've
Speaker 2: got to look at how much you gotta spend. Me
Speaker 2: Musgrove is even more expensive than Garrett Cole, So look,
Speaker 2: Dylan Sees a ten point four I think is the
Speaker 2: most cost effective.
Speaker 1: Cash game guy out there.
Speaker 2: But Stryder is the guy I think tonight when you're
Speaker 2: trying to look at potential cash tournament arms, excuse me.
Speaker 2: And then there's Tony Gonsolan at ten k, which you
Speaker 2: can float around with two, but I think Sees gives
Speaker 2: me a little bit more strikeout potential.
Speaker 1: The Mets, the Yankees, the Braves of the stacks.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the lineup builders on each site. They're
Speaker 2: both cheap sites. Guys Carlos Santana, No mar Maazara and
Speaker 2: Jesus Aguilar all under three k on DK and on FanDuel.
Speaker 1: Those are the guys I look for. I'm looking for
Speaker 1: Austin Riley for a home run tonight.
Speaker 2: He's been red hot and it's funny, Welsh, you picked
Speaker 2: my original guy and I changed it to Austin Riley,
Speaker 2: but you picked who I.
Speaker 3: Well, and I picked Pete Alonzo. That's mine today. But
Speaker 3: I was going to pick Austin Ridley, that was the one.
Speaker 3: I literally went on the sheet to write it in
Speaker 3: Joe had it and I was like, dang it, well
Speaker 3: I do that, but I kind of want a pseudo
Speaker 3: have it. But I went with Pete Alonzo today. Pretty
Speaker 3: good matchup, big bombs Alonzo, gimme, gimme, gimme. I think
Speaker 3: Mayor has got a BVP of Matt Chapman, and I
Speaker 3: believe he's pretty high up on the board of Homers.
Speaker 2: For today, we have a stack correction. Wonkee says the
Speaker 2: board is wrong high. Kubby now has thirty two. So
Speaker 2: good job, hi, Kubby.
Speaker 1: Way to get on that board and continue to increase
Speaker 1: that lead. I like that. Something good has to happen
Speaker 1: for the Cubs this year, So that'll do it for us.
Speaker 2: We'll be back again tomorrow to do it all again.
Speaker 2: But the story of the game goes on for the Welsh.
Speaker 1: I'm Joey p. We'll see you next time. Kids,