Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, It's time for Unsanctioned Thursdays with Jeff
Speaker 1: I and me Freddy.
Speaker 2: Let's start the show. Ladies and gentlemen, are you ready
Speaker 2: shuts up? About to hit the fan. Welcome to Unsanctioned
Speaker 2: Thursdays unter Wrestling with Friday.
Speaker 1: While we were gone, everything in the world happened in
Speaker 1: professional wrestling, which is complete and total bs. You guys
Speaker 1: couldn't wait until we were back. So here's what's happened.
Speaker 1: Edge joined a w which was freaking crazy. Granted he
Speaker 1: wanted to work with his friend with Christian and they
Speaker 1: got to have an awesome match in Canada with a
Speaker 1: spike baseball bat and this beautiful finale to their storyline.
Speaker 1: But I never in a million years would have thought
Speaker 1: he would have done that. CM Punk got fired by
Speaker 1: the company helped build, and then rehired by the company
Speaker 1: that fired him on his wedding day, and then got
Speaker 1: injured and couldn't go to the WrestleMania that he was
Speaker 1: said to go to. All while we were gone, WWE
Speaker 1: has been making tons of moves globally and now they're
Speaker 1: having international paid live events. They did the Elimination Chamber
Speaker 1: in Australia. Ripley got to be there. Indy Hartwell, who's
Speaker 1: a young wrestler, got to perform in front of her
Speaker 1: home people. The crowd was going crazy. She couldn't even
Speaker 1: help but smile the entire match, which was funny. Backlash
Speaker 1: is going to be in France, Bash at Berlin in August.
Speaker 1: They're going all over the world. I think they saw
Speaker 1: what AW did in England and we're like, if that,
Speaker 1: we can't let them have the biggest number. We got
Speaker 1: to get the biggest number. AW has really started to
Speaker 1: come back and find its groove despite not having MJF
Speaker 1: which when he first left it had been a bit
Speaker 1: of a struggle for them. But they signed Sasha Banks
Speaker 1: aka Mercedes Monette or I should say formerly known as
Speaker 1: Sasha Banks now known as Mercedes Monette. They signed Okata
Speaker 1: and Jeff. They signed Will Ospray.
Speaker 3: This best signing you could get.
Speaker 1: I'd argue, yo, wwe fumbled this so bad, And Will
Speaker 1: talked about this in an interview. He was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: it was basically, and I'm paraphrasing, it was an NXT
Speaker 1: contract or. It was millions of dollars at AW. Peace
Speaker 1: like the fact that they didn't know this dude could
Speaker 1: cut a promo. Forget the fact that he's arguably the
Speaker 1: best wrestler in the world today. Okay, it might not
Speaker 1: even be arguable, but I'm saying arguable just to respect
Speaker 1: other wrestlers out there who maybe I haven't seen. His
Speaker 1: work on the mic is top notch. I sent a
Speaker 1: clip to my wife. I said, Yo, this is Tom Hardy,
Speaker 1: but as a professional wrestler, and she wrote back, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, he is like even my wife watched his
Speaker 1: promo and I was like, this was amazing. That last
Speaker 1: one he cut on Brian Danielson where he was talking
Speaker 1: about his shoes in the ring. Look, look, everyone, bron
Speaker 1: Danielson's shoes and you know what, I'll looked at him
Speaker 1: and they were too small. Foolmy bruv and the whole
Speaker 1: crowd just goes crazy. And he's got this this English like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a Northern accent. It might
Speaker 1: be a north I don't want to get it wrong.
Speaker 1: But it's not like probabrid. It's not like, oh I know, yes,
Speaker 1: I'd like some tea and yeah, oh, I can't believe you.
Speaker 3: Spalked to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very like just rough and in your face
Speaker 1: and take it or leave it, and his personality is
Speaker 1: as such. And then he shows incredible respect to his
Speaker 1: opponents at the same time as he disses him later on.
Speaker 1: It's like he doesn't go at Brian Danielson until Brian
Speaker 1: Danielson goes at him. He doesn't go at the Japanese
Speaker 1: dude that beat him up in New Japan, the one
Speaker 1: he just wrestled. I had never seen him work before,
Speaker 1: but he's even speaking to him in Japanese and showing
Speaker 1: him respect, and the promo like, this dude is a
Speaker 1: top top star, a top top star. I cannot wait
Speaker 1: to see where he goes. Dude, I've been talking a
Speaker 1: long time. Jeff, jump in here.
Speaker 3: I agree with you.
Speaker 4: I think Osprey is the real deal, and he's not
Speaker 4: the only person like that. You know, like wrestling has
Speaker 4: a lot of really big stars, but I think that
Speaker 4: this guy is the cream of the crop. And he
Speaker 4: has the opposite problem of some of the things we
Speaker 4: were talking about. He's still pretty young. He's only thirty
Speaker 4: years old, and he's got every single thing. Also, you
Speaker 4: don't have to be seven foot anymore to be a
Speaker 4: big to be a successful wrestler. So I think will
Speaker 4: Osprey might have been a Eddie Guerrero Ben Wall kind
Speaker 4: of guy in the nineties, but nowadays he's a star.
Speaker 4: He's literally he's there's sky's the limit for this guy.
Speaker 4: So I think that WWE's screwed up big by not
Speaker 4: going out and getting him, Like I would have thrown
Speaker 4: the whole bank at this guy.
Speaker 1: To even think that he's an NXT talent is just insane.
Speaker 1: It's just, oh, let's control costs, right, Like that has
Speaker 1: to be what that was. They could not have seen
Speaker 1: him cut a promo and then offer him. That's just
Speaker 1: like how how how do you think you would get
Speaker 1: someone that talented, who's gonna be in demand, and then
Speaker 1: offer him seventy grand a year, which is an NXT contract.
Speaker 4: I think if you do what the Dodgers do and
Speaker 4: you just go out and buy an Ospray, you buy
Speaker 4: an MGF, you just throw the throw the money at
Speaker 4: those just those two guys I just named an MJF
Speaker 4: and Ospray, I think AE w Dies. I don't even
Speaker 4: think that they could compete. They'd become another you know,
Speaker 4: thing that would still exist. But I think WW wins
Speaker 4: that war. If you could just go sign those two guys.
Speaker 1: MJF and Will Ospray are the two best of the
Speaker 1: younger generation. Like there's there's nobody else even close, and
Speaker 1: there's great wrestlers out there that I love, but in
Speaker 1: comparison to those two, it's like there's those two guys,
Speaker 1: and then there's a great group of guys beneath them,
Speaker 1: and then there's everybody else. Like it's they're just their
Speaker 1: top show.
Speaker 3: All right. I was gonna say, ae W. It feels
Speaker 3: like what Tony Kahn is doing.
Speaker 4: Is letting the fan kind of sneak into his business plan.
Speaker 4: It's slowly turning into this like, look who we have
Speaker 4: from when when when I was young, Look we got edge.
Speaker 4: Look we're giving Jake the Snake a bigger contract. It's like, dude,
Speaker 4: you know you got to invest in these young cats.
Speaker 4: Grow up your things, don't don't look for this nostalgic
Speaker 4: pieces thinking that's going to get a pop and whatever
Speaker 4: and might work, and people might.
Speaker 3: Disagree, but that's just how I feel about it.
Speaker 1: And for everybody who already knew about Ospray, guys are
Speaker 1: jerks because none of you told me about him. I'd
Speaker 1: only seen an Instagram clip of him getting flipped and landing,
Speaker 1: so screw you guys, all right? Moving on? Oh, also,
Speaker 1: they signed Okata the rain Maker and he had a
Speaker 1: great match with not a great match, but a good
Speaker 1: match with Eddie Kingston. So they're really embracing the Japanese
Speaker 1: side of things in WW does to a certain extent
Speaker 1: as well, especially with the with the female wrestlers. The
Speaker 1: Rock joined the TKO board. While we were on that's
Speaker 1: kind of big news Raw is moving to Netflix. They
Speaker 1: announced that that was kind of big news. SmackDown was
Speaker 1: moving to the USA network. That ain't news. The USA
Speaker 1: needs wrestling. Their heart was broken when the Austroids one
Speaker 1: of their highest rated shows, and and NXT is moving
Speaker 1: to the CW, which to me was the only one
Speaker 1: that was kind of like what the CW has no identity,
Speaker 1: It's not like it was when it was the WB
Speaker 1: and it had Dawson's Creek and Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Speaker 1: and it represented young America so well, and what the
Speaker 1: youth was inspired by. It is an aimless boat with
Speaker 1: no sail, sitting in the middle of the water, waiting
Speaker 1: to be consumed by a bigger whale, Like that's all
Speaker 1: the CW is. I'm telling you that it's not a shot.
Speaker 1: That's the nature of their business. They're about to get
Speaker 1: absorbed into an app and not even exist anymore, and
Speaker 1: there won't be a CW as we know it, like
Speaker 1: a lot of channels have sunk and gone into the
Speaker 1: corporate streaming services. I have no idea why NXT moved there.
Speaker 1: It should have just been on Peacock. I don't know
Speaker 1: why they couldn't cut a deal there, that's where they
Speaker 1: already have their previous deal. But yeah, so it's moving
Speaker 1: to the CW. And I've actually watched a couple episodes
Speaker 1: during during our hiatus here, and I still wish they
Speaker 1: would shoot it differently. It's still shot like you know
Speaker 1: a high school play. Everybody just lines up in the
Speaker 1: middle of the ring. Even if there's four people, they
Speaker 1: just line up in a row. There's nothing cinematic about
Speaker 1: their shots. And it's not like they have different camera
Speaker 1: people like it's it's the same crew that shoots everything.
Speaker 1: They get cinematic on Monday and Ira with the Rock
Speaker 1: and Roman Reigns and shooting the Rock in the foreground
Speaker 1: and Romans a little blurry and that a stab and
Speaker 1: Roman's side eyeing him, and that establishes a little tension
Speaker 1: in the bloodline. Like they can do cinematic shots. I've
Speaker 1: seen them do it, and they just refuse to do
Speaker 1: it on NXT. It basically should just be a hardcam
Speaker 1: with no close ups and that's and that would be
Speaker 1: the show. Maybe the CW has notes for him, but
Speaker 1: I just can't. I just don't understand why it would
Speaker 1: go there outside of they have nothing, and they were
Speaker 1: the ones buying live golf contracts. The CW like they
Speaker 1: don't know who they are anymore, they don't have an identity.
Speaker 1: So this to me was just a very lateral move.
Speaker 1: It doesn't progress the business in any way, and it
Speaker 1: certainly doesn't progress NXT in any way. And that's pretty
Speaker 1: much what happened when we were gone, you guys. Now,
Speaker 1: one of those things, had they happened during the season,
Speaker 1: would have been enough to talk about for weeks and
Speaker 1: weeks on end. But that's like twenty things, twenty things,
Speaker 1: and it's like they timed it out when our show ended.
Speaker 1: They're like, okay, now make everything huge, So we missed everything.
Speaker 1: But out of all that stuff, Jeff, what would you
Speaker 1: like to talk on.
Speaker 3: I don't really care what we speak about.
Speaker 4: But there's been a billion things that have happened, and
Speaker 4: we've noticed that the second week went on hiatus is
Speaker 4: when everything exciting started happening. I would like to vent
Speaker 4: a little bit about how difficult these TV networks make
Speaker 4: it for us to watch things. It's just so hard
Speaker 4: and it moves around. It's like I feel like I'm
Speaker 4: constantly trying to It's it's the new hunting. You know,
Speaker 4: we're not cowboys anymore. We don't go hunt our food.
Speaker 4: We have to go hunt our content. What app is
Speaker 4: it on? And oh, I don't remember my log in
Speaker 4: for this? And now, oh you're gonna send me a
Speaker 4: link that streams to a thing, and oh but this
Speaker 4: is a special event, or this one's blacked out, or
Speaker 4: this is a pay per view, but now the pay
Speaker 4: per views are on Peacock. But now Peacock put it
Speaker 4: to and it's just keeps jumbling around. If these TV
Speaker 4: networks want to keep our viewership and our loyalty, maybe
Speaker 4: figure out your crap.
Speaker 3: It's too hard.
Speaker 4: To like, you know, jumping from Monday nights to Saturday
Speaker 4: nights and Now, wrestling's on Friday when I'm doing comedy,
Speaker 4: so I come back to my hotel at one am
Speaker 4: just to start Monday Night Raw.
Speaker 3: It's very, very flustering.
Speaker 4: But I don't know if you guys agree with me
Speaker 4: or if you guys have those same if you feel that,
Speaker 4: but it does feel like difficult to watch.
Speaker 1: You know, this has been an issue ever since all
Speaker 1: the networks tried to catch up with Netflix and they
Speaker 1: all started buying each other out. And that's that's why
Speaker 1: anti corporate philosophies have always been good, and that's why
Speaker 1: George Carlin was kind of right with a lot of
Speaker 1: the stuff that he said back in the day. And
Speaker 1: all these all these buyouts to create these streaming services.
Speaker 1: Understand something. These aren't plans that are being executed. These
Speaker 1: are moves that are being made. There's not a lot
Speaker 1: of forethought that goes into this, if that's the right term.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of planning. It's just, oh my god,
Speaker 1: they did this. We have to make a move. And
Speaker 1: that's why all these streaming companies come up buy all
Speaker 1: this content and then they go away and they cancel
Speaker 1: all their shows. Like if you want to know, if
Speaker 1: if a streaming service you watch is about to be
Speaker 1: bought out, and you should cancel your subscription and save
Speaker 1: ten bucks a month. Just watch how many shows they're canceling.
Speaker 1: If they're canceling the majority of their shows and only
Speaker 1: holding on to like one or two, they are about
Speaker 1: to be sold. I'm not going to call out the
Speaker 1: streaming companies that are doing this, but it's pretty easy
Speaker 1: to find out they're they're looking to claim losses so
Speaker 1: that they can just sell out, and it makes it
Speaker 1: impossible to commit to a show.
Speaker 3: They're going to.
Speaker 1: Cancel it anyway. Why would I watch this crap which
Speaker 1: then hurts the show. None of the contracts that they
Speaker 1: signed with these shows are for more than one year.
Speaker 1: It's not like there's no threat on the studio side,
Speaker 1: Like if you sign if I write a great show
Speaker 1: it's called it's called Wrestling with Freddie and Jeff and
Speaker 1: it's an awesome show, we won't get a five year
Speaker 1: seven year contract will be under one, but the studios
Speaker 1: not under one, which means we can't work anywhere for
Speaker 1: five to seven years. It's usually seven years is your contract,
Speaker 1: So for seven years without permission, you can't go anywhere.
Speaker 1: But there's no seven year commitment on their end to
Speaker 1: keep the show, so there's no risk. There's no risk
Speaker 1: on their end. They can kill you at any time
Speaker 1: they want, and if they feel that they need to
Speaker 1: sell the company, that's what they do. They kill show, show, show,
Speaker 1: with no financial penalty whatsoever. The only penalties that happen
Speaker 1: on the creative side of things the writers, the directors,
Speaker 1: the producers, and the actors and the musicians and the
Speaker 1: carpenters and everybody out the electricians and the gaffers and
Speaker 1: everybody who makes your TV shows and movies that you love.
Speaker 1: That's where the risk is. The studios have none, and
Speaker 1: a lot of these bigger corporations that have come in lately,
Speaker 1: like Amazon, they don't even care about television or movies.
Speaker 1: These aren't tax ride offs for them. That's why they
Speaker 1: bought them to claim them as losses. And they're assigning
Speaker 1: executives from their companies all of a sudden in creative
Speaker 1: positions when they have no experience in film or television.
Speaker 1: So that's why I think it's so hard to find
Speaker 1: something we like and then stick with it, because these
Speaker 1: aren't plans, these are moves. They're just lateral moves that
Speaker 1: people are making. And that's what the NXT thing felt like,
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, you're going there now, Well where
Speaker 1: are you going next year? Because CW probably won't even
Speaker 1: be around. Well, then we'll go to Peacock. Okay, now
Speaker 1: I am at Peacock. What happens if something goes instead
Speaker 1: of if the networks would have just stayed the course
Speaker 1: and said, let Netflix be Netflix and we just won't
Speaker 1: sell them our content. And if we don't sell them
Speaker 1: our content, they can't exist, and that should have been
Speaker 1: the studio move to deal with Netflix is okay, you're
Speaker 1: you're you have every episode of Friends on your network. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't get to have Friends. Oh you want to
Speaker 1: have this movie, So you don't get to have those movies.
Speaker 1: And if you're not selling your product, they can't buy it.
Speaker 1: They can't exist. But all these studios this money, money, money, money, money.
Speaker 1: I gotta get my bonus, got to get my bonus.
Speaker 1: You can have Friends for ten years, here you go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can have the Star Wars trilogy for three here
Speaker 1: you go. All these like huge franchises and that built Netflix,
Speaker 1: and now Netflix can make their own movies and they
Speaker 1: don't need your stuff, and now all these other networks
Speaker 1: are like, well maybe we should stream too. It's like
Speaker 1: you don't have to, right, you didn't have to, now
Speaker 1: you did. And now every streaming service basically turned back
Speaker 1: into cable because now they all have commercials. Again. Ah,
Speaker 1: that's my half of the rant, Jeff, But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's it's that's what the business is nowadays.
Speaker 3: It's very flustering.
Speaker 4: And also like, I mean, they've made some things are convenient,
Speaker 4: you know, like I can binge watch something, but even that,
Speaker 4: we're consuming it too fast. So they're going, all right,
Speaker 4: you got to tune back in next Tuesday, we'll upload that.
Speaker 4: It's like you have them all, just give me them all,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like, so it's very flustering.
Speaker 4: Luckily Wrestling will be going to Netflix where we won't
Speaker 4: have to worry about all this crap.
Speaker 3: But that's not till January.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it'll finally have its new home, and I
Speaker 1: feel like it'll be there for as long as it
Speaker 1: was on the USA network, Like it'll be a double decade,
Speaker 1: triple decade kind of thing, Like they have their home.
Speaker 1: Netflix ain't going anywhere. And yeah, everybody who doesn't have
Speaker 1: streaming services. Get ready to cut that cord and get
Speaker 1: streaming services. Save yourself a couple bucks from cable and
Speaker 1: satellite because they played themselves, and watch your wrestling. Man,
Speaker 1: this is wrestling is. I don't know how long this
Speaker 1: window is going to stay open, but wrestling has opened
Speaker 1: a window. And it was before the Rock. The Rock
Speaker 1: doesn't get to take credit for making wrestling cool again.
Speaker 1: It was all these young wrestlers that came up that
Speaker 1: made it cool again, but he certainly helped. It has
Speaker 1: this window now where I feel like there's room. And
Speaker 1: I'll say this on the show because you guys listen,
Speaker 1: and you guys give a damn. I'm going out with
Speaker 1: the wrestling show this year. I've already shot like a
Speaker 1: little real for it. I might fail, I might fall
Speaker 1: flat on my face. I might succeed. I might have
Speaker 1: the highest rated wrestling show on television. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going to happen, but I had a plan and
Speaker 1: I followed through with this plan and I made it happen,
Speaker 1: you guys, and I'm going out with the show. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I have a TV deal yet, but I
Speaker 1: have multiple places that want to see what we did,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna show it to them, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sell the hell out of it. And if I'm fortunate
Speaker 1: enough and someone says yes, it only takes one person
Speaker 1: to say yes. If that person says yes, then I
Speaker 1: will give you guys all the inside scoop on the
Speaker 1: process of selling the wrestling show. There's probably a lot
Speaker 1: of you that fantasize about being small time promoters too,
Speaker 1: which is all I want to be is a small
Speaker 1: time promoter if it becomes big time cool. But I'll
Speaker 1: give you guys every single detail and talk you through
Speaker 1: the process step by step, just to share that with you.
Speaker 1: I like giving people inside information and I'm not giving
Speaker 1: up the business that was given up a long time ago.
Speaker 1: Go to YouTube type pro wrestling plan B. I want
Speaker 1: to see some freaky shit type in pro wrestling plan
Speaker 1: be and you'll see the old timers giving up the business.
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, I love wrestling and I love movies
Speaker 1: and television, and I'm not trying to combine them all.
Speaker 1: But it's all a part of show business and I'm
Speaker 1: happy to share the whole process. Whether I fail or not,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you all everything we appreciate you guys listening
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Speaker 3: And that's it.
Speaker 1: Jeff, you want to say good bye to the people.
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Speaker 3: Have a good week.
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