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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, It's time for Unsanctioned Thursdays with Jeff

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Speaker 1: I and me Freddy.

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Speaker 2: Let's start the show. Ladies and gentlemen, are you ready

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Speaker 2: shuts up? About to hit the fan. Welcome to Unsanctioned

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Speaker 2: Thursdays unter Wrestling with Friday.

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Speaker 1: While we were gone, everything in the world happened in

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Speaker 1: professional wrestling, which is complete and total bs. You guys

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Speaker 1: couldn't wait until we were back. So here's what's happened.

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Speaker 1: Edge joined a w which was freaking crazy. Granted he

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Speaker 1: wanted to work with his friend with Christian and they

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Speaker 1: got to have an awesome match in Canada with a

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Speaker 1: spike baseball bat and this beautiful finale to their storyline.

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Speaker 1: But I never in a million years would have thought

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Speaker 1: he would have done that. CM Punk got fired by

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Speaker 1: the company helped build, and then rehired by the company

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Speaker 1: that fired him on his wedding day, and then got

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Speaker 1: injured and couldn't go to the WrestleMania that he was

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Speaker 1: said to go to. All while we were gone, WWE

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Speaker 1: has been making tons of moves globally and now they're

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Speaker 1: having international paid live events. They did the Elimination Chamber

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Speaker 1: in Australia. Ripley got to be there. Indy Hartwell, who's

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Speaker 1: a young wrestler, got to perform in front of her

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Speaker 1: home people. The crowd was going crazy. She couldn't even

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Speaker 1: help but smile the entire match, which was funny. Backlash

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Speaker 1: is going to be in France, Bash at Berlin in August.

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Speaker 1: They're going all over the world. I think they saw

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Speaker 1: what AW did in England and we're like, if that,

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Speaker 1: we can't let them have the biggest number. We got

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Speaker 1: to get the biggest number. AW has really started to

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Speaker 1: come back and find its groove despite not having MJF

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Speaker 1: which when he first left it had been a bit

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Speaker 1: of a struggle for them. But they signed Sasha Banks

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Speaker 1: aka Mercedes Monette or I should say formerly known as

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Speaker 1: Sasha Banks now known as Mercedes Monette. They signed Okata

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Speaker 1: and Jeff. They signed Will Ospray.

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Speaker 3: This best signing you could get.

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Speaker 1: I'd argue, yo, wwe fumbled this so bad, And Will

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Speaker 1: talked about this in an interview. He was like, Yo,

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Speaker 1: it was basically, and I'm paraphrasing, it was an NXT

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Speaker 1: contract or. It was millions of dollars at AW. Peace

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Speaker 1: like the fact that they didn't know this dude could

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Speaker 1: cut a promo. Forget the fact that he's arguably the

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Speaker 1: best wrestler in the world today. Okay, it might not

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Speaker 1: even be arguable, but I'm saying arguable just to respect

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Speaker 1: other wrestlers out there who maybe I haven't seen. His

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Speaker 1: work on the mic is top notch. I sent a

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Speaker 1: clip to my wife. I said, Yo, this is Tom Hardy,

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Speaker 1: but as a professional wrestler, and she wrote back, Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, he is like even my wife watched his

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Speaker 1: promo and I was like, this was amazing. That last

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Speaker 1: one he cut on Brian Danielson where he was talking

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Speaker 1: about his shoes in the ring. Look, look, everyone, bron

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Speaker 1: Danielson's shoes and you know what, I'll looked at him

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Speaker 1: and they were too small. Foolmy bruv and the whole

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Speaker 1: crowd just goes crazy. And he's got this this English like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a Northern accent. It might

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Speaker 1: But it's not like probabrid. It's not like, oh I know, yes,

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Speaker 1: I'd like some tea and yeah, oh, I can't believe you.

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Speaker 3: Spalked to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very like just rough and in your face

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Speaker 1: and take it or leave it, and his personality is

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Speaker 1: as such. And then he shows incredible respect to his

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Speaker 1: opponents at the same time as he disses him later on.

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Speaker 1: It's like he doesn't go at Brian Danielson until Brian

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Speaker 1: Danielson goes at him. He doesn't go at the Japanese

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Speaker 1: dude that beat him up in New Japan, the one

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Speaker 1: he just wrestled. I had never seen him work before,

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Speaker 1: but he's even speaking to him in Japanese and showing

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Speaker 1: him respect, and the promo like, this dude is a

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Speaker 1: top top star, a top top star. I cannot wait

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Speaker 1: to see where he goes. Dude, I've been talking a

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Speaker 1: long time. Jeff, jump in here.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: I think Osprey is the real deal, and he's not

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Speaker 4: the only person like that. You know, like wrestling has

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Speaker 4: a lot of really big stars, but I think that

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Speaker 4: this guy is the cream of the crop. And he

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Speaker 4: has the opposite problem of some of the things we

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Speaker 4: were talking about. He's still pretty young. He's only thirty

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Speaker 4: years old, and he's got every single thing. Also, you

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Speaker 4: don't have to be seven foot anymore to be a

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Speaker 4: big to be a successful wrestler. So I think will

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Speaker 4: Osprey might have been a Eddie Guerrero Ben Wall kind

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Speaker 4: He's literally he's there's sky's the limit for this guy.

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Speaker 4: So I think that WWE's screwed up big by not

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Speaker 4: going out and getting him, Like I would have thrown

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Speaker 4: the whole bank at this guy.

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Speaker 1: To even think that he's an NXT talent is just insane.

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Speaker 1: It's just, oh, let's control costs, right, Like that has

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Speaker 1: to be what that was. They could not have seen

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Speaker 1: him cut a promo and then offer him. That's just

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Speaker 1: like how how how do you think you would get

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Speaker 1: someone that talented, who's gonna be in demand, and then

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Speaker 1: offer him seventy grand a year, which is an NXT contract.

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Speaker 4: I think if you do what the Dodgers do and

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Speaker 4: you just go out and buy an Ospray, you buy

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Speaker 4: an MGF, you just throw the throw the money at

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Speaker 4: those just those two guys I just named an MJF

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Speaker 4: and Ospray, I think AE w Dies. I don't even

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Speaker 4: think that they could compete. They'd become another you know,

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Speaker 4: thing that would still exist. But I think WW wins

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Speaker 4: that war. If you could just go sign those two guys.

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Speaker 1: MJF and Will Ospray are the two best of the

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Speaker 1: younger generation. Like there's there's nobody else even close, and

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Speaker 1: there's great wrestlers out there that I love, but in

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Speaker 1: comparison to those two, it's like there's those two guys,

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Speaker 1: and then there's a great group of guys beneath them,

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Speaker 1: and then there's everybody else. Like it's they're just their

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Speaker 3: All right. I was gonna say, ae W. It feels

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Speaker 3: like what Tony Kahn is doing.

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Speaker 4: Is letting the fan kind of sneak into his business plan.

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Speaker 4: It's slowly turning into this like, look who we have

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Speaker 4: from when when when I was young, Look we got edge.

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Speaker 4: Look we're giving Jake the Snake a bigger contract. It's like, dude,

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Speaker 4: you know you got to invest in these young cats.

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Speaker 4: Grow up your things, don't don't look for this nostalgic

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Speaker 4: pieces thinking that's going to get a pop and whatever

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Speaker 4: and might work, and people might.

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Speaker 3: Disagree, but that's just how I feel about it.

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Speaker 1: And for everybody who already knew about Ospray, guys are

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Speaker 1: jerks because none of you told me about him. I'd

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Speaker 1: only seen an Instagram clip of him getting flipped and landing,

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Speaker 1: so screw you guys, all right? Moving on? Oh, also,

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Speaker 1: they signed Okata the rain Maker and he had a

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Speaker 1: great match with not a great match, but a good

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Speaker 1: side of things in WW does to a certain extent

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Speaker 1: as well, especially with the with the female wrestlers. The

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Speaker 1: Rock joined the TKO board. While we were on that's

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Speaker 1: kind of big news Raw is moving to Netflix. They

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Speaker 1: announced that that was kind of big news. SmackDown was

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Speaker 1: moving to the USA network. That ain't news. The USA

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Speaker 1: needs wrestling. Their heart was broken when the Austroids one

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Speaker 1: of their highest rated shows, and and NXT is moving

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Speaker 1: to the CW, which to me was the only one

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Speaker 1: that was kind of like what the CW has no identity,

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Speaker 1: It's not like it was when it was the WB

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Speaker 1: and it had Dawson's Creek and Buffy the Vampire Slayer

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Speaker 1: and it represented young America so well, and what the

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Speaker 1: youth was inspired by. It is an aimless boat with

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Speaker 1: no sail, sitting in the middle of the water, waiting

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Speaker 1: to be consumed by a bigger whale, Like that's all

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Speaker 1: the CW is. I'm telling you that it's not a shot.

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Speaker 1: That's the nature of their business. They're about to get

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Speaker 1: absorbed into an app and not even exist anymore, and

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Speaker 1: there won't be a CW as we know it, like

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Speaker 1: a lot of channels have sunk and gone into the

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Speaker 1: corporate streaming services. I have no idea why NXT moved there.

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Speaker 1: It should have just been on Peacock. I don't know

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Speaker 1: why they couldn't cut a deal there, that's where they

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Speaker 1: to the CW. And I've actually watched a couple episodes

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Speaker 1: during during our hiatus here, and I still wish they

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Speaker 1: would shoot it differently. It's still shot like you know

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Speaker 1: a high school play. Everybody just lines up in the

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Speaker 1: just line up in a row. There's nothing cinematic about

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Speaker 1: their shots. And it's not like they have different camera

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Speaker 1: people like it's it's the same crew that shoots everything.

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Speaker 1: They get cinematic on Monday and Ira with the Rock

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Speaker 1: and Roman Reigns and shooting the Rock in the foreground

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Speaker 1: and Romans a little blurry and that a stab and

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Speaker 1: seen them do it, and they just refuse to do

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Speaker 1: it on NXT. It basically should just be a hardcam

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Speaker 1: I just can't. I just don't understand why it would

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Speaker 1: the ones buying live golf contracts. The CW like they

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Speaker 1: don't know who they are anymore, they don't have an identity.

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Speaker 1: So this to me was just a very lateral move.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't progress the business in any way, and it

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Speaker 1: certainly doesn't progress NXT in any way. And that's pretty

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Speaker 1: much what happened when we were gone, you guys. Now,

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Speaker 1: one of those things, had they happened during the season,

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Speaker 1: would have been enough to talk about for weeks and

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Speaker 1: weeks on end. But that's like twenty things, twenty things,

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Speaker 1: and it's like they timed it out when our show ended.

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Speaker 1: They're like, okay, now make everything huge, So we missed everything.

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Speaker 1: But out of all that stuff, Jeff, what would you

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Speaker 1: like to talk on.

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Speaker 3: I don't really care what we speak about.

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Speaker 4: But there's been a billion things that have happened, and

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Speaker 4: we've noticed that the second week went on hiatus is

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Speaker 4: when everything exciting started happening. I would like to vent

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Speaker 4: a little bit about how difficult these TV networks make

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Speaker 4: it for us to watch things. It's just so hard

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Speaker 4: and it moves around. It's like I feel like I'm

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Speaker 4: constantly trying to It's it's the new hunting. You know,

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Speaker 4: we're not cowboys anymore. We don't go hunt our food.

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Speaker 4: We have to go hunt our content. What app is

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Speaker 4: it on? And oh, I don't remember my log in

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Speaker 4: for this? And now, oh you're gonna send me a

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Speaker 4: link that streams to a thing, and oh but this

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Speaker 4: this is a pay per view, but now the pay

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Speaker 4: per views are on Peacock. But now Peacock put it

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Speaker 4: to and it's just keeps jumbling around. If these TV

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Speaker 4: networks want to keep our viewership and our loyalty, maybe

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Speaker 4: figure out your crap.

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Speaker 3: It's too hard.

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Speaker 4: To like, you know, jumping from Monday nights to Saturday

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Speaker 4: nights and Now, wrestling's on Friday when I'm doing comedy,

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Speaker 4: so I come back to my hotel at one am

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Speaker 4: just to start Monday Night Raw.

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Speaker 3: It's very, very flustering.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know if you guys agree with me

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Speaker 4: or if you guys have those same if you feel that,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you all everything we appreciate you guys listening

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Speaker 3: And that's it.

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Speaker 1: Jeff, you want to say good bye to the people.

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