WEBVTT - Kree Harrison

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<v Speaker 1>Caroline. She's a queen of talking. He was son. She's

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<v Speaker 1>only yes, actually got the snoop on on the on side.

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<v Speaker 1>No one can do within clie my Carola, Caroline. No

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<v Speaker 1>one can do within quiet Caroline Carola. Hey, y'all, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby.

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<v Speaker 1>I know music, I know people, and I know the

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<v Speaker 1>questions do you want to ask? So let's get hyper

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<v Speaker 1>heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there

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<v Speaker 1>could be adult content. And I have Cree Harrison joining

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<v Speaker 1>me this week. I'm obsessed with Creed. I've loved her

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<v Speaker 1>for like ten years. I've known her and Nashville for

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<v Speaker 1>over a decade. She's an angel on earth. She has

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<v Speaker 1>the best voice I've ever heard in my life. I

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<v Speaker 1>really mean that. She's so good and her story is incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>She got second place on American Idol in the midst

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of other amazing things she's done, which

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<v Speaker 1>she just released new music too, called This Old Thing

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<v Speaker 1>and it is so good and I got to hear

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<v Speaker 1>the whole ep, and I'm telling you the whole album.

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<v Speaker 1>She made a whole album. It is knock your socks

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<v Speaker 1>off good. So get excited, world, because Cree Harrison is

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<v Speaker 1>here and I cannot wait for you to hear everything

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<v Speaker 1>she has going on. Welcome Cree. Okay, Cree Harrison, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here with a fabulous create. We must know this

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<v Speaker 1>is round two. Yes, it is, which is exciting because

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<v Speaker 1>I just like hanging out with you. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love hanging out with you. I know you're so busy, though,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to tell everybody what happened. Cree is

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<v Speaker 1>a badass, and I was like, Cree, can I interview you?

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like yes, and she's all this stuff going on.

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<v Speaker 1>She's releasing her new album. She's like so incredible. We

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<v Speaker 1>did this interview was so fun. It was, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't record it. I just think that we were

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<v Speaker 1>having too much fun, and that lead to not realizing

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<v Speaker 1>that we were recording anything, which is fine with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Until you're cool though, I mean, like so many people

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<v Speaker 1>will be like, hell, no, I'm not doing another interview

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Get out my hair. No, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Get in there, get in all of the hairs, get

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<v Speaker 1>in you. I wish you do use dry shampoo. Yes, literally,

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<v Speaker 1>just put some of my hair and you have I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure some of it looks like which hair. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I think dirty hair is the only way to go

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<v Speaker 1>is get that body. Curls better, stays better, do curler hair.

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<v Speaker 1>I do a little bit. Yeah, it looks really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Your hair looks really nice. I curled it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to do on myself up a little more

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<v Speaker 1>this time. I was like, I'm gonna pull my hair.

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<v Speaker 1>You always have good hair. Yes, I know, round too.

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<v Speaker 1>And look it's recording. I see numbers happening. Your microphone's rolling.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. You have a quieter voice to me as

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<v Speaker 1>I do. Okay, so I'm this is cool. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm holding this People magazine right now and it's called

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<v Speaker 1>the Best of American Idol. And oh wait, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>open and up there you are a creed because wait,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, you were runner freaking up on American Idol.

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<v Speaker 1>I was. It's it's funny because when people they'll see

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<v Speaker 1>me out. It was actually yesterday somebody was like, where

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<v Speaker 1>are you on the Voice or American Idol? And I

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<v Speaker 1>always say Dancing with the Stars And they're like, what, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I lost Dancing with the Stars. Hang it. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>they goes right over their head, like you were in

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<v Speaker 1>my living room. I just don't know why, but you

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<v Speaker 1>were there. You were there. I remember what you did

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<v Speaker 1>do some dancing on American Idol. Did you have to

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<v Speaker 1>learn those moves? Yeah? Do you do a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>spirit fingers, jazz hands, jazz hands? Do they call him

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<v Speaker 1>jazz hands? Do? No? I know you know, Kelly, but

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<v Speaker 1>we were, Yes, we were um back for the finale

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<v Speaker 1>and they made us line dance, which was hilarious. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>we did like a country medley. Well, I watched the

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<v Speaker 1>finale and we all wear white and you come out

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like amazing, all the people who have been

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<v Speaker 1>affected by American Idol. Yeah, like the Idol family. It

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<v Speaker 1>was really it was honestly like a high school reunion.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is an Idol family, it is. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you keep up with your cast, yeah, um, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you spend so much time with these people. You become

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<v Speaker 1>really really close to him. I mean adore everyone that

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, my top ten. After the show ends,

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<v Speaker 1>you go on tour together. You know, how's the Idol Tour.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the only one top five females, right, Yeah, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we made Idol history. It was awesome. It was genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>like at estrod Infest, there's so much did Joss periods

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<v Speaker 1>all link up? Probably? Yeah? Actually yeah for sure. On tour,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah we did. How was that it was fun? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it was, um, you know, fast paced. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that in the show. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>like center myself and rather than be tired and um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I had to like take every minute in

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<v Speaker 1>because it was just so fast. Were you conscious of

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<v Speaker 1>taking it in? Yeah? I was. I think being here

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<v Speaker 1>in Nashville for so long, I realized that, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ship happens so quickly, comes and goes, and the good

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<v Speaker 1>or bad ways, and if you so, if you like,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to just stay in a moment being here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>being here for as long as I did, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that helped with my So you start at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>You grew up in Texas. I did, And you always

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<v Speaker 1>knew you wanted to sing. Yes, starting from like ten

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<v Speaker 1>years old, you were doing competitions, You went on the

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<v Speaker 1>ROSEO Donald Show. Yeah, well, I I sang at every

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<v Speaker 1>freaking local event in Texas that you can possibly imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>from like churches to rodeos to festivals, operis um and

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<v Speaker 1>then a friend sent in a videotape of me opening

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<v Speaker 1>for Percy Sledge or Wayne Tubes one of those um

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<v Speaker 1>and rose O'donald was like, hey, we want you to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of you know, our Talented Kids segments

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<v Speaker 1>that in. Yeah, and then she like scooped you up. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I came home from school and my mom was like,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're gonna be on Roseo Donald. We got a

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<v Speaker 1>peck or stuff and I was like, what what do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean Donald? You kind of feel like, okay, cool?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I was fucking pumped. You were ready? Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you did the Roseo Donald show and then you

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<v Speaker 1>also I thought it was cool you played the Apollo

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<v Speaker 1>thing I did, yes for you? What was that? It

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<v Speaker 1>was fun? How old were you like that age? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I was eight then that was before I know, it's dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>I was an infant. Uh you could already sing when

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<v Speaker 1>you're that young. I mean literally, it's the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I know how to do. Right, That's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, I know, like my hair like

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<v Speaker 1>you're here. No, uh no, seriously, though I've known forever.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we were talking about this last time, like

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<v Speaker 1>the first interview, which no, I mean how crazy it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've known for your whole life that you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be in entertaining and I didn't know singing

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<v Speaker 1>like you knew and mine is not singing. Now I've

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<v Speaker 1>realized you're singing, it's hosting, but you knew yours was singing.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like when you, while we have that in common,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever you grow up and you're just like wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>be creative in every way. Um, you know, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>start writing till I was fourteen, and that was another

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<v Speaker 1>outlet for me. I think that you just realized that

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<v Speaker 1>once you get older. But you had always stemmed from

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<v Speaker 1>me performing for sure, And we were talking in the

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<v Speaker 1>first interview, but I think this is such a great

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<v Speaker 1>point that we talked about. When you know your passion,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you are born, knowing why you're waking up

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<v Speaker 1>and knowing what you're meant to do on this earth,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's a really amazing thing, because some people kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wander and they never figure it out. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I always I feel for that because I

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<v Speaker 1>could I could not imagine not knowing and then also

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<v Speaker 1>not being able to pursue music like I love. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I live eve and breathe music. I feel like some

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<v Speaker 1>people think like chasing passions is exhausting, like, oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I could never do that. That's so time would be

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<v Speaker 1>more exhausting too, not that. Yeah, that's more draining to

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<v Speaker 1>me because at least you know what you're chasing and

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<v Speaker 1>why you're chasing it, and every little thing is it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little step forward. Totally. No, I agree. I agree. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you got to Nashville, you had a you had

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie o'donald so that kind of like got you into

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<v Speaker 1>the public eye, which got you noticed by Lyric Street

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<v Speaker 1>Records when you were ten. Yeah, and that's like a

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<v Speaker 1>label that Rascale Flats got started on Daisy and then

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<v Speaker 1>they signed you at ten. So talk about that as

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<v Speaker 1>a ten year old now working with a major label

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<v Speaker 1>record deal, that's a big deal and kind of overwhelming,

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<v Speaker 1>but probably not for you, know. I mean, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, where do I sing? Where do you put

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<v Speaker 1>me somewhere? And whether it be the city or on

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<v Speaker 1>the stage, there was so great with me. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>for working with a child, I thought, um, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>even though I was never like one of those little

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<v Speaker 1>annoying kids, running around. I've literally been this same adult,

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<v Speaker 1>chill person my whole life. But because you're only twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>but you feel so wise. You do. You have a

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<v Speaker 1>just a constant, calm wisdom about you that I did

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<v Speaker 1>not have a tent and I probably don't have that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're really so chill and calm and like you just

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<v Speaker 1>embrace things. Yeah you have to. How do you know

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<v Speaker 1>that so young? Um, convincing myself that I don't know anything?

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<v Speaker 1>That that works, I think like pretending that you know

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<v Speaker 1>everything is not in your favor. So me admitting saying

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to learn something every day. I don't know. Shit,

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<v Speaker 1>that's mom and Dolly. But how do you get that?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think my my parents probably, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom was very wise. Well, yeah, I'm a humble person.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of that humble and kind an we talking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>For your song, I just se hard. But every time

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<v Speaker 1>it's the sweetest thing I've ever heard. I want. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever you think about this is where my head went.

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<v Speaker 1>Like eventually, even like playing the song for my niece

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<v Speaker 1>or something, my it's I'm just They're gonna come out

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just gonna continuously play them that song everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the perfect lyric. It's perfect La McKenna, everyone, Lori McKenna,

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<v Speaker 1>humble and kind timmercrossing in it, and it is the best.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's the best song I've ever heard. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so that mentality my parents definitely like embedded

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<v Speaker 1>at that in my head. My whole family, Like my

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<v Speaker 1>sister is, you know, lazy, she's amazing, she's the same way. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>mother of the Year, the years, the years. So you

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<v Speaker 1>had to record that lyric street and at that point

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<v Speaker 1>your family uprooted from Texas and they said, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna move with you to Nashville. Yeah. Well, the day

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<v Speaker 1>we got the development deal offer, um, it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of it was just kind of emotional, Like me and

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<v Speaker 1>my mom both were crying. It was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>this last time, like our Judd's moment, Like we're literally

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<v Speaker 1>like making fun of each other about um. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was because we like she didn't sing or anything, but

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<v Speaker 1>we were definitely a dream team. Like she she supported

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<v Speaker 1>you all the way, all the way. She took me everywhere, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, made sure that I still wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>it every day. She wasn't a stage mom. She just

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<v Speaker 1>was supporting your dream. Yeah for sure. How cool. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>it was awesome, So would happened. It's just like overall,

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<v Speaker 1>so the family is I just think it's so cool

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<v Speaker 1>that you had a family that was like all about

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<v Speaker 1>your passion, like that believed in that stuff. Because some

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<v Speaker 1>people would be like, oh, we're going to just stay

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<v Speaker 1>here and you can go do stuff maybe when you're going, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when you turn eighteen, do what you want. Yeah, no

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<v Speaker 1>they I mean I feel like too. It brought us

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<v Speaker 1>closer together, if anything, like our family, um, and also

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<v Speaker 1>you know, took us out of you know, a smaller

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<v Speaker 1>town and um and in the best of ways. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>my brother got to see snow and big tall buildings

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, we got to travel together. And yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was a good opportunity for everyone. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have the older sister and an older brother

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<v Speaker 1>and a little brother and there's four of y'all, yes

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<v Speaker 1>at the third or four, which makes so much sense

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<v Speaker 1>because because I'm like the what's the word, not the

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, the calm one like the referee is think,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think that that's the reason why

0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I am the way I am, Like I'm very calm

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<v Speaker 1>and will defuse any sort of situation because I've had

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in the middle of both sides, like you

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<v Speaker 1>need to calm down, you need to sit down. So

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<v Speaker 1>never you're never causing the I definitely have. But yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time not. I love my siblings. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Lazy Lacey is awesome, She's amazing. Yes, so she moved

0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:50.000
<v Speaker 1>here with us. It was just you and Lazy and

0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.120
<v Speaker 1>your parents and my little brother brother. Everyone else stayed

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas. Um, which is your one older brother. I

0:13:55.360 --> 0:14:01.880
<v Speaker 1>guess right, Okay, so he stayed. Uh and you know

0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.480
<v Speaker 1>she what is she doing with this? Lacey fell in

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<v Speaker 1>love with Nashville. She did, Yeah, she did. She had

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<v Speaker 1>a baby fourteen years ago. That's crazy than like help

0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.880
<v Speaker 1>not right, I guess raise Yeah, yeah for sure. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>well it's basically yeah, so your record I fell through

0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:29.080
<v Speaker 1>it did well, I basically, I mean we butted heads

0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.480
<v Speaker 1>for a while. Um, even then I knew that I

0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:36.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to do like pop country or yeah, and

0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.240
<v Speaker 1>not in a bad way, just as a I don't.

0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't going to do that, Like I was very stubborn,

0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:44.360
<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, they got it. I mean they

0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:49.400
<v Speaker 1>respected it, if anything. And um, shortly after we lost

0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:55.000
<v Speaker 1>my dad, um, which was you know, sudden and tragic.

0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:58.400
<v Speaker 1>So it was a year after I got the deal.

0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:02.360
<v Speaker 1>So I just I needed to go home. I think

0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.800
<v Speaker 1>we all just needed to like regroup and recharge and

0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.120
<v Speaker 1>do some soul searching because I was not in the

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<v Speaker 1>state of mind to like try and figure out who

0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I was as an artist at eleven after you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having a tragedy. So we went home. We moved back

0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and lost my deal, which was for the best. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you when you were home? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just spending time with family, honestly, Like it's it's very

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<v Speaker 1>easy to recharge and think in an environment that we

0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:37.640
<v Speaker 1>were raised in because there's literally it's a dear lease,

0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.360
<v Speaker 1>it's it's there's nothing in that town, which is my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite part. So you go there and you just, you know,

0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.000
<v Speaker 1>that's how you sold search. I think we're removing yourself

0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.360
<v Speaker 1>from like a rat race or a fast paced city.

0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:53.640
<v Speaker 1>For me, anyway, it's just like getting in tune with

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<v Speaker 1>your self yep, for sure, and spending time with family.

0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:00.840
<v Speaker 1>It was good for us at the time. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I was like thirteen and I started. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of like stopped music for a second. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to school and was like super normal. Yeah,

0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I know, what a weirdo being normal? Creet, that's not

0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.920
<v Speaker 1>a good idea. UM, and my mom and I would

0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:26.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're talking, and I was unhappy because I

0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.760
<v Speaker 1>wasn't seen, because I wasn't being creative and realizing that

0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.080
<v Speaker 1>that that's what I needed to do to to heal

0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:36.680
<v Speaker 1>and grieve. Um, I like started writing songs and felt

0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.760
<v Speaker 1>like I had something mistake because I was thirteen. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, you already lived a big life at thirteen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well yeah a little bit. So my sister still living

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<v Speaker 1>in Nashville, we all thought it was a good idea

0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.320
<v Speaker 1>for me to move with her. Um at that time,

0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:54.920
<v Speaker 1>your mom she was just gonna stay back in Texas,

0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.200
<v Speaker 1>right to uproot him again, was you know, just not

0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.680
<v Speaker 1>a good idea. So I went back and forth. Me

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<v Speaker 1>and my sister basically raised each other. She's the best

0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.520
<v Speaker 1>mom in the world. And how old was she? She

0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:13.520
<v Speaker 1>had Rayley, who was like two or so one or

0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.159
<v Speaker 1>two years old. So I played house, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>would go and write songs and do whatever during the

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<v Speaker 1>day and then go home and play house and she

0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.440
<v Speaker 1>would go to work you know nights. Yeah, no, she's

0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:30.640
<v Speaker 1>literally I'll always think that lazys ng the mood. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, she's just awesome. Yeah. Why is she's such

0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:40.600
<v Speaker 1>an awesome mom? Um? Because she's selfless. She's still fun.

0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.800
<v Speaker 1>She's really got that spunk you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, she's she's just self worry she was. I mean,

0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.960
<v Speaker 1>she's got a million purposes in life that I'm sure

0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:57.920
<v Speaker 1>she'll tackle all but um, one of them was how

0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:01.720
<v Speaker 1>maternal she is. Like she was she always did that

0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.360
<v Speaker 1>with us. You know, I was like her baby doll

0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:06.479
<v Speaker 1>growing up. She was eight when I was born, so

0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:10.560
<v Speaker 1>she literally played house with me. You know, it's full

0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:14.399
<v Speaker 1>circle anyway. And then with amazing that I know, I

0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.479
<v Speaker 1>love that kids, and it was so was it kind

0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:20.240
<v Speaker 1>of fun though when y'all were just two sisters in

0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.560
<v Speaker 1>your thirteen now, so I mean, yeah, you could get

0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:25.600
<v Speaker 1>into a lot of trouble if you wanted to. Absolutely

0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:27.639
<v Speaker 1>we got into some trouble together. And then when it

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<v Speaker 1>came to the time, she would be like, all right,

0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.480
<v Speaker 1>sit your auk down, this is then she would like

0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:36.960
<v Speaker 1>play a mom. You know, she's amazing. But um yeah,

0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:43.240
<v Speaker 1>so I wrote for a while and um, Trey Bruce

0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.479
<v Speaker 1>actually was the first one that got me into writing.

0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:49.280
<v Speaker 1>He's a big hit songwriter and producer. He's written Whisper

0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:54.639
<v Speaker 1>My Name to You Can't Lose Me by Faith Hill, Yes,

0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Faith Everything she is. Um yeah, and introduced me to

0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.040
<v Speaker 1>like the writing unity, and I just you know, befriended

0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:06.560
<v Speaker 1>like basically everyone that was over at Chris Slis where

0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.320
<v Speaker 1>we all signed, Like King Billy was your first publishing.

0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:13.720
<v Speaker 1>It was King Billy and Chris Jansen and Lucy Sylva's

0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:18.879
<v Speaker 1>who are all Osborne or brothers Osborne met Lucy was

0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:22.240
<v Speaker 1>through because I remember that day. Now they're married, which

0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.280
<v Speaker 1>is my favorite couple. Lucy Sylvias if you don't know her,

0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.320
<v Speaker 1>she's from England and she's a songbird amazing, She's incredible.

0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.440
<v Speaker 1>She's married to John Oswinne from Brothers Osborne Cree hangs

0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:35.800
<v Speaker 1>with a cool group of people. Somehow they let me

0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:39.960
<v Speaker 1>because you're a I'm just kidding, umall, and like yeah,

0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Chris Jansen and King Billy they were like the biggest

0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:44.960
<v Speaker 1>band in town in Nashville firm. Yeah, we were like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was the female artist and Chris Jansen

0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:49.920
<v Speaker 1>was the Mill and then they had their band King Billy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know what, just kind of felt like

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<v Speaker 1>college for me, you know what I mean, Like I

0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:01.879
<v Speaker 1>was taught a lot by um Given John. Oh. You know,

0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I've listened to great music growing up, from Otiss Ready

0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:09.320
<v Speaker 1>to Role Haggard, but he taught me like who Patty

0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Griffin was and Darrell Scott and um you know all

0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:16.359
<v Speaker 1>those guys. We learned a lot from my friends at

0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.359
<v Speaker 1>the time. I mean, I still do. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>inspiring to like get in the writing world of things,

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<v Speaker 1>not knowing that growing up, you know, which is also

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<v Speaker 1>cool because on American Idol you're saying when a Patty

0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Griffin song, and it was like I did bring the

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<v Speaker 1>house down. That was It was fun. It was I mean,

0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.240
<v Speaker 1>that whole experience was freaking nuts up on a mountain,

0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:40.200
<v Speaker 1>up to the mountain, up to the mountain, and then

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<v Speaker 1>full circle. Since I know that since Arity interviewed you, yes,

0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and then Emily Harris happens to watch American Idol, she

0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:50.719
<v Speaker 1>loves it and she loves you. Yeah, well it's freaking mutual.

0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:53.200
<v Speaker 1>That woman's an angel. But the fact that Emily Harris

0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:56.800
<v Speaker 1>watched American Idol. I know a Patty Griffin song, and

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<v Speaker 1>then she tell me what she invited you to do

0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:02.400
<v Speaker 1>well is like unbelievable. It is full circle. It's can't

0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:04.399
<v Speaker 1>actually handle it. Tell that whole story because people are

0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:08.040
<v Speaker 1>going to die. She and I've become pretty good friends.

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<v Speaker 1>You've become pretty good friends, Emily Harritt, like you have

0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:13.760
<v Speaker 1>her cell phone? I do. I know, it's freaking weird.

0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Manad my dog gave me love after her you did so.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that. God, I mean, she would actually

0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:24.120
<v Speaker 1>love that. She don't. She's obsessed with dogs. The first

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<v Speaker 1>time I met her, I sing at her or for

0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:32.080
<v Speaker 1>her pet what's it called? She has that pet? Adoption?

0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Apt you or I saying at that little benefit concert

0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:40.919
<v Speaker 1>or whatever that she asked me to do, and she was,

0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:44.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, so lovely, and we've just befriended each other.

0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Went over to your house like a month ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>played on my record just because I was like so

0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:50.679
<v Speaker 1>auntie and anxious to know what she thought because I

0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:55.080
<v Speaker 1>respect her so much. She freaking loved it, which is like, Okay,

0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to go play in traffic now. And

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<v Speaker 1>then that was the ultimate litmus test. Good, yeah, it was.

0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:12.520
<v Speaker 1>It was so she called me, uh yeah, yeah. She

0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:15.760
<v Speaker 1>called me a couple weeks ago and asked if um

0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I would be their special guests for this around that

0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:21.240
<v Speaker 1>her Petty Griffin and Buddy millerd are doing. It's crazy

0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:25.280
<v Speaker 1>full circle. But I've I've obviously you know, known to

0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:27.320
<v Speaker 1>me for a minute, and Buddy Miller, who I love

0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:33.160
<v Speaker 1>as well. But I've never got to watch Petty live,

0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:36.200
<v Speaker 1>much less hang out with her. So we're in around

0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:38.639
<v Speaker 1>with her on a show. I'm playing a song. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't even know. Can you even believe

0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:45.960
<v Speaker 1>your life? I mean you were meant to sing? Yeah? No,

0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm very very thankful for the people that I'm around

0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:52.520
<v Speaker 1>to materialized dreams though, like okay, you go on American Idol,

0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:55.560
<v Speaker 1>you get second place, like your voice is so good,

0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:58.360
<v Speaker 1>but like to actually now have it be like notice

0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:01.320
<v Speaker 1>on the level it should. And then Emmy Lou Harris,

0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 1>people that you respect what to do with my hands ever? Um,

0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:11.119
<v Speaker 1>for the people that respect, you know, my stuff as

0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:12.639
<v Speaker 1>much as I respect them, I don't know, It's just

0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 1>a crazy thing. It's like I'm very very blessed. I

0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>think that's so freaking yeah. Okay, so you're in the

0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:22.040
<v Speaker 1>writers I had a segue because we can't forget that

0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:24.880
<v Speaker 1>story because it's just love. It's the best. So you're

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 1>in the writing community. Now you're hanging out with the

0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:31.000
<v Speaker 1>brothers Osborne, Chris Jansen, Licy Syliva's and your friends with

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Kasey Musgraves. And now like you're living with Marion Morris,

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 1>who's like up and coming in country. Like you're just

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:40.120
<v Speaker 1>in the scene. So a lot of record labels were

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 1>really interested in you, and I remember I told you this,

0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:44.439
<v Speaker 1>like you were like the darling of this town. You

0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:47.640
<v Speaker 1>still are so sweet when you came to Nashville. When

0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:49.119
<v Speaker 1>I came to Nashville, I think you've been here a

0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:51.359
<v Speaker 1>little before me. I'm like a decade older than you,

0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:56.120
<v Speaker 1>and you and you look younger. Could be your mother. God,

0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:59.640
<v Speaker 1>actually you should raise me that you're much wider. I'm

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 1>like years behind. You'd be screwed, let's be honest. But yeah,

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 1>what was it like being in Nashville with like all

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:09.159
<v Speaker 1>the record labels because so many people wanted to sign you,

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 1>and then it's just I felt like it nothing quite

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:16.879
<v Speaker 1>came together all the way. No there was you know, uh,

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I would do showcases and there would be things on

0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:21.119
<v Speaker 1>the table and then it just wouldn't make sense or

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.879
<v Speaker 1>it didn't work out or um. I mean honestly, I

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel uh I realized that now that I was

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:35.119
<v Speaker 1>completely ready for any of that, Red, why weren't you

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:38.920
<v Speaker 1>ready yet? I mean I just wasn't exactly sure who

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I was as an artist. I mean I think that

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you you know constantly, Uh can what's the word I'm

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 1>looking for? Evolve? As a thank you? I'm a dropout

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 1>as well? Um not everyone needs school? Oh god, yeah,

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I actually disagree with you. Think I definitely need to

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 1>go back to school. I can't. I have to look

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 1>up those words and the Children's Dictionary and then those

0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 1>words and then just kidding, um no, but I don't know.

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I just I just didn't think I was ready emotionally

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 1>or um as an artist and which is sure of

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 1>your talent, but just totally yeah, what what exactly what

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to say? And um my lane as far

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 1>as you know being an artist anyway, So it worked

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 1>out for the best. I've never released anything, but um,

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I remember one time in particular, like we were signing,

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:40.359
<v Speaker 1>like paperwork was on the table. We had a fucking

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>cake like we were celebrating still and it's official. Um

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 1>And a week later, these two labels merged. It was

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 1>John Grady and Mark Brown. It's so many and they

0:25:56.040 --> 0:26:00.639
<v Speaker 1>emerged and I was like, oh ship, now what I said? Okay,

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:03.400
<v Speaker 1>so we're not going to do this because they weren't there.

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>The people that were signing me were leaving. And that's

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 1>the thing too, that people don't realize. You don't. It's

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 1>not like this record label. It's like this this this machine.

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>It is a machine, but it's people to have your

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:16.160
<v Speaker 1>team that gets you, that believes in you. It's your advocate.

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.919
<v Speaker 1>So when you're they were amazing. Yeah right, you just

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know. But again, like I said, everything happens for

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 1>a reason. I really do believe that it was a blow.

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:30.640
<v Speaker 1>But then honestly, I mean I don't know. I think

0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:33.159
<v Speaker 1>that you just have to we were talking about earlier.

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I think my parents just embedded that in my head,

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 1>like having the whole life isn't fairs. Yeah, I mean,

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>it's honestly just kind of annoying, Like I don't like

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.160
<v Speaker 1>being around it or putting it out, and it doesn't

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 1>get you anywhere, because no one feels really sorry for

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 1>a victim because truly, Also, it could be so much

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 1>fucking worse, Like I could be starving in a fucking

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 1>foreign country rather than going, oh they don't want to

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 1>sign me anymore. That it's just silliness. But that's perspective,

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 1>and I don't feel that everyone has that. Now, you're right,

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>but I mean those people are in my life, but

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 1>that don't have that mentality because it's you know, life

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 1>isn't fair, get over it. Yeah, it's true. And we're

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:21.360
<v Speaker 1>supposed to learn the lessons, and I think you don't

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:23.679
<v Speaker 1>learn all the lessons if you just have perfect all

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the time. Exactly, you have to have no the bitter

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 1>before the sweet, right to taste the sweet. Is that

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 1>how it goes? It is true, it is yeah. And

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>then so after that happened the other blow. Um My,

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 1>we lost my mom. So at this point to right, yeah,

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 1>so at this point, how is nineteen And it was

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>just honestly like the worst case scenario for our family,

0:27:55.960 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>you know. Um so I went back Texas again. It

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>was just like this, Oh yeah, like where you grew up.

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 1>Texas will always have my heart. I love Nashville, but

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>my whole family is there, you know, and I just

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 1>like the culture like we live in. I went back

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:19.439
<v Speaker 1>to him where my family is. Yeah, we don't you know,

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>have the house we grew up into. Well, and you

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 1>did a really cool piece on did so you saw that,

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 1>like we still have that property, but the house is

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, okay, and then it's kind of weird, like

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>we want to fix it and like redo it, but

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like it's it's hard to like go

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>back and think that you have to like remove the

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>literal like wall where your you know, your family was

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 1>last at that, you know, like because they're not here anymore.

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, it's just the memories are in

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the walls and stuff like you know. Literally, Yeah, how

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>was doing that piece for American Idol? Like for people

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>who didn't see it, what was that like for you?

0:28:56.640 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Those emotional So Top three you get to go to

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>a home story. Um, I have to say that one

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>of the producers was his name was b Rob and

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>he went he came and didn't mind like the camera guys,

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 1>we were all very close at this point because you

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>spent like a damn year of your life with him

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 1>um so I just remember him like pulling me aside

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>and saying, look, I know how like emotional and impact

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and impacting is that a word? Yeah? God, like you

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 1>don't you don't need school. You think you do, but

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>you don't need at all. I'm ever thinking it, um

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>which is what they teach you in school is to

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>not overthink in second guess yourself. So yeah, it was

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 1>just it was just really emotional and I just remember

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 1>him pulling me aside and saying, like, at any point,

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 1>you need to stop or whatever. Like it was so

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 1>selfless of him to do that, because I mean it's TV.

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's good TV. You can't make this ship up.

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>So it's like they would probably most of the time

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 1>be like, yes, let's get her, she's bawling, and corner,

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 1>let's follower. You know. It was just really really thoughtful.

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:05.959
<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget that, but um, it was. It was amazing.

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean I felt so much love and support from

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>you know where I'm from, which was really cool to

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>like it was almost tangible, like the amount of support. Yeah,

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>it was really fun. And Lacey came with you did

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 1>my little rock. Yeah, it was really fun. We were

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>very very much all though, like walking in the house

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, like you said you can if

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 1>you know phil um the presence of you know, people

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 1>that we've lost, and then also like the same smells

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, it's kind of eery, but it

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>was fun. It was really cool. It was a really

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 1>cool moment, and I have it captured. Honestly, I have

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>not seen it because I feel like I would ball

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>like a little brat, but um, it was. I was

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>happy that I did it. I am, and I saw

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 1>that I thought you were very brave to do that,

0:30:55.520 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and I thought it was very um. He share seemed healing,

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you sharing your story and well, I've always sicking, I'm sorry,

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm interrupted. Well, I always always thought there's no way

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do that because I don't want like the

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 1>pity party or like the sympathy vote. No. I realized

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>that as I was doing it, like for people to

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 1>not just to get to know me, but um, I

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know, for people to have something to relate to

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>and not fill alone and see like, oh, you have

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of loss and it's been rough and whatever,

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>that you can come out on the other side and

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>not have like the ship end of the stick mentality.

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, truly, you stayed inspired, you stayed totally. But

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've I've gone up and down for sure.

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a freaking roll, you know, roller coaster of emotion.

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm blessed that

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I had good parents for as long as I did,

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>even if it was a short time, rather than parents

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 1>all life. You know, that's a really it's quality not quantity,

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you know. I agree. And your parents are so involved

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>in your life. They were like hands on and they

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>were really just cool. My dad wrote Harley's and listen

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>to you know, bad Company. Yeah, I love it though.

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>He was the sweetest thing ever. Um, but yeah, where

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>are we? Okay? So you're on American Idol. You do

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>that awesome piece your top three. How are you feeling

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>when you're standing there and now you are the final

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 1>freaking two for American Idol on the biggest reality singing

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>show in the entire world and you are freaking standing

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>on there as one of the two remaining. I just

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see it as like is that that situation?

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 1>For some reason, Literally, me and Candice, who was the

0:32:56.880 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>winner of season twelve, She's amazing, literally one of the

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 1>funniest people I know. I think Ryan Secrets was a

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 1>little freaked out of how calm we were, because I

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>mean he literally said, I've never known to finalist finalists too,

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>just be here because we are very much alike, just

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 1>very like, we're very similar in that way. Um. And

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 1>the truth is we're standing there talking shipped to each

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 1>other because we think it's funny that everybody's like, it's

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>going to happen, yes, because I mean, at this point,

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>we already feel like we've made it, We've done. We've

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>came here to do what we were trying to, which

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 1>is basically have a following, have a platform of you know,

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>immediate uh following. I guess you know people be aware

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 1>of Yeah, totally, which is exactly what happened. It was

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 1>amazing we get to go on tour together. So yeah,

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>there was never like, oh god, what if I don't win. Um,

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>so this is I swear to you from like top forty.

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>We would just always be like, hey, whenever you win,

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>don't embarrass me, Like we would say that to each

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>other all the time. So we're standing there, um, and

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 1>it's right before Ryan's like, dim the lights. I mean,

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:22.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like literally gives me anxiety about it. Oh god. Um. Yeah,

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 1>so we're just like talking to each other. I'm trying

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>to remember what I said. Oh I know, So when

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 1>you win, you have to perform your single, whether or

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:33.360
<v Speaker 1>not you're bawling or not, Like you have to go

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 1>for it right then, right totally? No one, Um, and

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 1>even if you're not like a very emotional person, the

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:46.800
<v Speaker 1>journaline rush, the energy, the support from everything, this crowd

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>going nuts. I mean, it's just like it will make

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 1>anybody emotional. It's overwhelming, and I'm the best of ways.

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:56.399
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, I just said, um, she said, whenever you win,

0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>don't embarrass me. I was likening like right before. Ryan's like,

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.759
<v Speaker 1>what the funk are y'all doing? And I'm like, okay,

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>whenever you win. Um, if you if you cry, I

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 1>mess a song up, I'm gonna push you off the stage.

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Like we're just waking ship to each other a little.

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I swear like I love so much. Oh god, no,

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I know, I mean, god, I'm after this, we should

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 1>just sucking FaceTime er because you would love her so much.

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>She's hilarious and I probably verbat him. Sure, she'll be

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:34.439
<v Speaker 1>able to be able to remember why can't I talk

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>right now? A little miss? She will be able to

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:43.359
<v Speaker 1>remember it probably verbat him because it was hilarious. How

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:46.760
<v Speaker 1>great though that you guys weren't like devastated, like because

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>you got second place that's winning. I mean if I

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 1>got like forty forty place, I would have thought, this

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>is awesome, you know, just to be like in validated

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:58.360
<v Speaker 1>that you honestly to say that you're like one of

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 1>the best voices in the kind tree like that is well,

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I just never thought of it that way. But more

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:08.240
<v Speaker 1>than anything, like to be involved in that process and like, yes,

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 1>being in Nashville has taught me so much does every day.

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 1>But I wouldn't have worth ethic without that show. I

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 1>would have never I would never know what to do

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.839
<v Speaker 1>with a damn camera in my face. I would not

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, have made lifelong friends like it. For me,

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't necessarily about the popularity contest of winning. It

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>was the everything that I learned and people have met

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 1>through the whole damn process. Like it was crazy. I

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>made lifelong friends. Um, I mean there's just so many

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 1>like some of the producers, uh gosh, down to like

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>hair and makeup. I mean that you just because it

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>take it so close, the whole old team. It literally

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 1>took the idle village. And you said you got to

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>like have a wardrobe every day. I know it was

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>a girl's dream for that part. And I hate shopping.

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I hate shopping for myself. I hate shopping for clothes.

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I love antiquing or like going and buying gifts or whatever,

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:13.320
<v Speaker 1>but I do not like going to a damn dressing

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:17.240
<v Speaker 1>room with hospital lighting and trying on clothes. I get hot.

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it. It's stressful. I have someone who

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>already has all your measurements and sizes and fine, and

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 1>they just bring you clothes it fit. You're like, nope, yes, nope,

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 1>chance they're going to fit. Right, That's so wonderful. It

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:34.320
<v Speaker 1>was really fun. And the shows the Shower's Girl. I

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>got some shoes to show you. Do you take home

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>your outfits? Do you still own them? I? Seven? What

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>do you wear? I figured you did? You would wear

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 1>a seven. I feel like all of my friends have

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the tiniest fucking feet. Maybe that's normal, and I just

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 1>have huge skis. Nine that's great, right, But I'm shure.

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>So you think that my he would be smaller and

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 1>they're not. My sister has like sized tin Really is

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:13.280
<v Speaker 1>she my hype five four? That makes sense? I don't know. Anyways,

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I would share my skis with you, but they would veit. Yeah.

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 1>So what were the judges like? They're awesome? I mean yes,

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Mariah Carey, Keitherban, Riney Jackson and you were wife these

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:32.359
<v Speaker 1>with Nikki? What ho was about that? There was? There

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 1>was this um particular time where I think it was

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>top forty I'm pretty sure. And she I don't know.

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:43.919
<v Speaker 1>She was just really sweet and was always about me,

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 1>and she made this comment of like, well, you know

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 1>you're my wife. That was her thing and yes, can

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 1>you imitate her voice? Yes? Yeah. She she she would just

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 1>be like creed, um, I am cessed with you. You're

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:05.320
<v Speaker 1>you know you're my wife. And I would just be like, yes,

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I know this, um And then she's like I think

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 1>she said, how is it possible that your sexiness? Oh?

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I can't, I can't. I don't know, That's all I got.

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't ask, I can't. But she did say, um,

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 1>how how possible? How is it possible that you're sexy?

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Sexiness level? What up again? Tonight and I said, I'm

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:30.759
<v Speaker 1>just trying to do my wife proud, and everybody lost it.

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:33.400
<v Speaker 1>And then from then on we were like the couple.

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I wore a fake engagement men just to be an

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:40.720
<v Speaker 1>ass because I thought it was funny. Um. Yeah, she's awesome.

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>She's the sweetest thing and very very smart. Yes, yeah,

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 1>very smart she is. I mean some people would call

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 1>it a gimmick, and I just think that it's a

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 1>fucking marketing. She's a marketing genius and she's authentically owns it.

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>She does like it's like not fake for her, Like

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 1>she like is that all the time? And then Keith

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 1>urban the sweetest And then you played the Opery with him?

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I did, and you said, oh I have a quote

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>from you that what what did you say? Where's all

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>my notes? Um? He said something about how like playing

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the Opery was your greatest dream and like it was

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 1>to accomplished that kids always wanted to do that. Yeah,

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's a Whenever I was on Rosie the

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>first time they she asked me like, what are my

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 1>dreams and goals or whatever? And I told her, you

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>know a few things. And then grand Ole Opry would

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 1>would just be an honor to play. So I've been

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:42.400
<v Speaker 1>wanting to do that for Mob, you know, since I

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 1>was probably three, and then you did it with Keith Urban. Yes,

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 1>he told me after the finale of my season and

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 1>vital that I was asked to play and we both cried.

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>He told you that you're asked to play after Did

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:01.360
<v Speaker 1>he tell you that on TV? It was after it

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:04.560
<v Speaker 1>was back, Like we were literally walking to press and

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.360
<v Speaker 1>he's like, hey, I gotta tell you something that's stopped

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 1>really quick, and like we literally both cried. He cried too. Yeah,

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I was just I mean, he's the sweetest thing. You know,

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>he's the sweetest thing ever. But he Eithervan. I've always

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought you've met I thought you've met him in

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 1>my dreams. He's just he's genuine, like he's one of

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:25.759
<v Speaker 1>the few, and he like he looks at you when

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you're talking. There's no like, where else do I need

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 1>to be, even in the middle of chaos, and he um,

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:34.399
<v Speaker 1>why do you think he's like that? I don't know,

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:38.919
<v Speaker 1>I really, I mean maybe it's rain or something. Yeah,

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 1>well that was pretty as so he started crying with you.

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 1>He did. Now, it was very emutional. I mean, I

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't believe it. I was like, what am I

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:50.760
<v Speaker 1>to do now? Like, this is one of my biggest

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean genuinely though, that was the big leagues for

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:57.760
<v Speaker 1>me seeing on the opera stage. How does that feel

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 1>to like accomplish things on your bucket list just like

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:05.880
<v Speaker 1>you think it would? Do you have to get new dreams? Oh? Yeah,

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that's good for you, right, it is good

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:14.439
<v Speaker 1>for you. So after Idle, you made an album I did.

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I took a little bit of time off just because

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I needed to like recharge after the craziness of you know,

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 1>you think about it was a year and a half

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 1>of my life. So I wanted to come back to

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 1>Nashville right, figure out my team, make sure I was okay,

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:37.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, in a good place, uh, Because I mean

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:39.239
<v Speaker 1>after that it was like a crash. I was like,

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 1>what do I do now? You know, it's crazy. I

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:43.560
<v Speaker 1>can relate to you just from an amazing rate to

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>exactly it is so intense. You have crew falling around,

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>you have cameras everywhere. You're so intense every day and

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:56.200
<v Speaker 1>then it literally is over. Yeah, it's it's it's kind

0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:59.320
<v Speaker 1>of it's a it's not like a a low moment,

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 1>but you cry just from totally you're on. When you're

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 1>on for that long period of time, you're never off.

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>And so how long was American Idol a year and

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:13.760
<v Speaker 1>a half. I mean auditions, that process goes, you know, months,

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 1>and then once you know, you start filming that's I

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:22.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know, three weeks, and then the show is live

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 1>for another three weeks and then you go on tour.

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:29.719
<v Speaker 1>But you're just at this high adrenaline, adrenaline constantly, just

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 1>like you were saying, like once you once you get

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 1>off whatever show, whatever schedule, that's crazy. Yeah, I crashed,

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 1>So basically I had to just like regroup, come back

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and regroup again. Um, which was good for me. I

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 1>definitely do I think it is too Yeah, I mean

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:50.400
<v Speaker 1>for me, I speak for myself, but I have to

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 1>what happens, Like you said, nothing last forever, Like these

0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 1>highs don't last forever. These lows and lasts forever, and

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:58.719
<v Speaker 1>you're constantly just having to navigate the highs and the lows. No,

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's good for you, like to just

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 1>be on all that time, that whole time. I don't know,

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you gotta I feel like you gotta separate yourself or

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I do again just me? Yeah, you know, didn't happen

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 1>when you crashed. I just like needed to figure out

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:16.840
<v Speaker 1>how I was going to make a live studio record

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:19.400
<v Speaker 1>and with who who would want to do that? Everyone?

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:22.799
<v Speaker 1>Um well, I mean as a new artist, it's kind

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:25.320
<v Speaker 1>of scary. Your voice is like one in a million.

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 1>That's what you maybe don't know. No, I know, I

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 1>mean I it's you know what you have to know.

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:32.799
<v Speaker 1>I do know, yeah, yeah, I know, it's what I do.

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 1>But um, I wanted to make sure that I wasn't

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:38.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna have asced. So I didn't want to like come

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 1>off the show Russia, good record and then have to

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:42.880
<v Speaker 1>go play it just for the momentum Like I just

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:47.280
<v Speaker 1>needed to remove myself. Um, so I did. I wrote

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 1>for UM. I started writing for this company called Plaid

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Flag Um and we sat down and had a conversation

0:44:56.280 --> 0:45:00.440
<v Speaker 1>about getting an investor for a live studio record. Did it?

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I started writing a year before, Uh, we make the writer.

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 1>We made the record and studio album. Well, I mean,

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I've always wanted to like more than just me, wanting

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:20.280
<v Speaker 1>to emote more, you know, and I feel like live

0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I did explain most albums are studio album. Yeah, So

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:27.160
<v Speaker 1>what's the difference between a live album and a studio

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 1>recorded album. Obviously you're in a studio, but yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:35.279
<v Speaker 1>break down the difference. Well, my influences would go to

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 1>a studio, be in one big room and literally track

0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 1>everything to tape. So that's what I did. I picked

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a studio in Asheville, North Carolina. It was beautiful. I

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't even see any of it take except for the studio,

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 1>but it was enough for me. Um, it was this

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 1>old church. Jordan Lenning, I know it was, I'll show

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:58.879
<v Speaker 1>you pictures, but Jordan's Lenning is just a brilliant man,

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 1>and he told me about the studio. Um, I don't know.

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 1>It's just like Erie likes walking in with all of

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 1>my amazing friends who played on the record, um, like

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 1>eight dudes, and it was like some somewhere somebody did

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:20.719
<v Speaker 1>something wrong. This is all too freaking perfect. That's that's

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:22.440
<v Speaker 1>how you know you're on the right path. No, totally,

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:25.720
<v Speaker 1>but it was just like, oh god, this is happening. Um.

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 1>So yeah that I was like, this is your first album.

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it is. But that's the reason why I want

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to do it live, because all the you know, little

0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>imperfections and like you know otis reddings, you know, breaths

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:46.919
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of whatever of tracking like that that

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:49.360
<v Speaker 1>makes me so happy. You don't want it to be perfect,

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:51.840
<v Speaker 1>well I did. I wanted it to be real, but

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I wanted it to be Um. I didn't want it

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to be too like clean, if that makes any sense. Um,

0:46:57.200 --> 0:47:00.400
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of albums, each instrument will go in track,

0:47:00.480 --> 0:47:02.759
<v Speaker 1>each part, and then you can cut and paste in

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 1>like auto tune, and obviously everybody does some of that,

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:06.800
<v Speaker 1>and I respect that. I just didn't want to do

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:10.319
<v Speaker 1>it that way because, um, I didn't think that it

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 1>would come across as real as I wanted it to,

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:15.680
<v Speaker 1>you know. Um. But yeah, it was really fun and

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:22.760
<v Speaker 1>um we had our friend Jason coming like just capture everything,

0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:26.880
<v Speaker 1>like and it was just like, I don't know, seeing

0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 1>this footage there's a lyric video for this old thing

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 1>that he did. Uh. Seeing it all together was just

0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:35.640
<v Speaker 1>like it seemed like a dream. It really did. That's

0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of cheesy, But what is a dream? You dreamed

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:40.400
<v Speaker 1>it up? I did. That's what it feels like a dream. Well,

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 1>we all did. I mean, it was definitely a team

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 1>of amazing people. That now I have. So that's that's

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:47.520
<v Speaker 1>why it took so long to make a record. You

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:50.359
<v Speaker 1>found your team. Yeah, isn't it crazy that that you

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:53.399
<v Speaker 1>literally can dream things up in your head and they

0:47:53.440 --> 0:48:01.400
<v Speaker 1>can become real. I'm a huge believer in that visual lies. No,

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:05.719
<v Speaker 1>I do, Like, I don't know how you would say this.

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:09.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think of dumb things, mostly at

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 1>a bar stool on a bar stool with my friends

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:15.360
<v Speaker 1>drinking whiskey, and I'm like, oh man, what if so

0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:18.520
<v Speaker 1>you're always dreaming? Oh yeah, right, I mean I feel

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 1>like all creative people are that way. I agree. I

0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but yeah, I'm really proud of this record.

0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 1>And it's called this is the Whole album called this

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Whole Thing, which that is the coolest title. Really. Well,

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:35.319
<v Speaker 1>when when I heard that you put out a song

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:37.959
<v Speaker 1>and your album is to come and you haven't released

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:42.719
<v Speaker 1>the album yet, right, No, that'll be uh this year.

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know when. Really, I think it will be

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:49.759
<v Speaker 1>like the end of summer perfect or something. When you

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:52.399
<v Speaker 1>released this Whole Thing though, I just thought to myself, like,

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that is like the perfect song for you, because just

0:48:56.920 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 1>knowing you and how cool you are and how like humble,

0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:02.319
<v Speaker 1>you are company. You're so talented, but you don't like

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:05.719
<v Speaker 1>take yourself so seriously, like you know, like you're just

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:08.840
<v Speaker 1>like so chill and so cool and so relatable and

0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:12.200
<v Speaker 1>yet so unrelatable because your talent is out of this world.

0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:15.840
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you don't make anyone feel like you're on

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 1>voating in the galaxies because you're so good, like you

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:24.200
<v Speaker 1>make people feel you're you don't, You're just relatable. But yeah,

0:49:24.239 --> 0:49:26.480
<v Speaker 1>you're so talented. And then that title, I was like,

0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 1>of course, it feels like just home. I love that

0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:33.440
<v Speaker 1>you're saying that, mostly because I don't know. I had

0:49:33.480 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 1>this like crazy, uh, I thought when I was there,

0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're recording this, and I have this old book. Um,

0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 1>it's just like I don't know why it's my favorite thing,

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:46.640
<v Speaker 1>but I was bringing it to show one of the

0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 1>guys because I just thought it was cool. It looked

0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:53.600
<v Speaker 1>like old and it looks like I think this book

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:55.880
<v Speaker 1>was published in like the eight hundreds or something like,

0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:58.160
<v Speaker 1>it's just an old poetry book. I was just being

0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:00.920
<v Speaker 1>a nerd, like showing it off and I'm looking at

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:06.759
<v Speaker 1>it as we're recording, Um, and we're recording this old thing.

0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:10.760
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, holy shit, this is the cover

0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:15.040
<v Speaker 1>of the record, this book and this fun and it's

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:16.960
<v Speaker 1>going to be called this old thing because this is

0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 1>like this old sound I've been trying to find and

0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:25.440
<v Speaker 1>figure out and make for how many years? You know? Yeah,

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:29.520
<v Speaker 1>sixteen years. Yeah, I don't know. It was just kind

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:39.000
<v Speaker 1>of a commitment to craft. Yeah, yes it is. Yes, committed. Yeah,

0:50:39.760 --> 0:50:44.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm so committed that I'm going to be admitted pretty soon.

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that means actually, ever. No, it's

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 1>so good because they're just trying to truth in it.

0:50:56.760 --> 0:51:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I think insane, absolutely, but it's insane together, which makes

0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:08.279
<v Speaker 1>it fine exactly. That's amazing. So committed I'm going to

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 1>be when you Oh god no, but that's the best

0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:16.439
<v Speaker 1>part too, Like I didn't realize how much we could

0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:18.480
<v Speaker 1>use this whole thing to our advantage, like making merge

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:20.759
<v Speaker 1>right now, and like there's two shirts to say that

0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:22.600
<v Speaker 1>this old thing, like this whole I don't know. I

0:51:22.680 --> 0:51:26.319
<v Speaker 1>just I'm I'm really proud of that song and then

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 1>also having it to be the you know, the name

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:34.440
<v Speaker 1>of the record title track. So excited, Thanks fabe, thank you,

0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:36.400
<v Speaker 1>You're the best. Okay, So I'm gonna wrap up, and

0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 1>this interview did record glory hallelujah. If it didn't, I

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:43.399
<v Speaker 1>could totally just do it again. Not there are times

0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:48.200
<v Speaker 1>a charm. Two times you're an angel. For redoing it,

0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:51.360
<v Speaker 1>You're an angel. I don't mind. But actually everyone is

0:51:51.360 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna be jealous because after we wrap this interview, I

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:55.959
<v Speaker 1>get to hear your whole album, of this whole thing. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited for you to hear it. I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>wait to hear it. But leave your life. Give me

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<v Speaker 1>some inspiration. How do you inspire people or how have

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<v Speaker 1>you been inspired? What's just an inspirational, inspiration, inspiring message

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<v Speaker 1>you want to share? Um? Oh yeah, that smokey Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Smokey Robinson was one of the mentors on IDOL and

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<v Speaker 1>he was just very very sweet. I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>take it all in because I was fan growing the

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<v Speaker 1>funk out of him. I was one star struck and

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been that way ever. Um, what was it

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<v Speaker 1>about him? He's just I don't know, he's got just

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<v Speaker 1>such a star quality walk into the room. He walks

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<v Speaker 1>into the room and just takes it all up like

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<v Speaker 1>in the best of ways. He's the sweetest I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been one of my influences my whole life, so

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<v Speaker 1>that has a huge part to do with it. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's just cold human being. But he uh, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>you're amazing. But just remember, no matter how high her

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<v Speaker 1>head gets in the clouds, always keep your feet on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. And I was like, that's just something that

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<v Speaker 1>everybody should live by in general. So that is my

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<v Speaker 1>inspirational quote for the day. I love it and I

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<v Speaker 1>think I do cheers. We both do? Yes? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>a thing? Though? Yeah? That is freaking beautiful. Also, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>Marine God. Yeah, my cousin, Cannon Louis designed it. She

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<v Speaker 1>does Cannon Louis jewelry. If anyone wants to know Cannon Louis. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>girl endorsement. Okay, oh we should get you some jewelry.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love I would love that. Okay, yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk to her because you got good stuff and I

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<v Speaker 1>love your bolo that you have on Thanks Kitty Nashville, everybody, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>his favorite story. I didn't interview with Sarah about her store. Kitty.

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<v Speaker 1>I genuinely a I love all of the girls because

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<v Speaker 1>they really sweet. But um, it's just good stuff, good stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's comfy. I know, I feel cute in cash

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<v Speaker 1>all the same time. Okay, Caree Harrison, You're the best,

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<v Speaker 1>the best. Okay, this whole thing, everyone get it? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>iTunes ituned, Carol Lam, She's a queen of talking. She's

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<v Speaker 1>only got the scoop on. No one can win, caral Lam.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you guys loved hearing from Cree. She is

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<v Speaker 1>just the best. She's the best in everyway. Love that girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Go get her song, this whole thing. I'll be on

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<v Speaker 1>the look up for her album coming soon. It is

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<v Speaker 1>so good you are not gonna want to miss it.

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<v Speaker 1>Her music. It is amazing. So excited for her future

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<v Speaker 1>because it's bright as the sun. Next week, Corey Crowder

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<v Speaker 1>is joining me. He is a hit songwriter. He wrote

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<v Speaker 1>several hits for Chris Young, I'm Coming Over, and he

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<v Speaker 1>just had Think of You with Cassidy Pope and Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Young that Do What They both went number one. He's

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<v Speaker 1>on a streak. He is also an incredible producer. He

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<v Speaker 1>produces Chris Young Cassidy Pope. He also is married to

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<v Speaker 1>spoken hot wife and they are having a baby on

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<v Speaker 1>the way. He already has a little boy and he

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<v Speaker 1>just talks all about how I got started his MTV days,

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<v Speaker 1>how he got picked up and all the songs got

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<v Speaker 1>put on, like Real World and all the MTV shows,

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<v Speaker 1>and he tells us all that journey. He's hilarious and

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<v Speaker 1>awesome and so talented. So tune in next week for

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<v Speaker 1>Corey Crowder and don't forget to subscribe on iTunes under

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<v Speaker 1>hyper Caroline Hobby. Subscribe and like it and leave me

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<v Speaker 1>some comments, give me some love, girls and boys. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>see you all next week. By