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Speaker 1: on the show, we've got some great guests. Dave Citron,

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Speaker 1: Gemini Live mode. We'll talk to him about all that,

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Speaker 1: and my former boss at KTLA TV. Jason Ball will

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk to Jason Ball a bit later. Well,

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a relaxing Memorial Day weekend. This

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Speaker 1: To Google headquarters for their big IO event. This is

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Speaker 1: the company's annual tech festival. Now it's mainly aimed at

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Speaker 1: on iOS and Android, you know, like all apps that

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Speaker 1: I talk about, You know, every every app is like

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Speaker 1: almost like a freemium thing where like you'll get you know,

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Speaker 1: basic things for free, but if you really want to

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Speaker 1: use it for a lot more, you have to sometimes

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Speaker 1: pay or have some cloud storage on Google. So it's

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Speaker 1: tough because I subscribe to Google. So I know there

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Speaker 1: are some delineations on that app, like where you you know,

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Speaker 1: you might higher usage limits and things like that, but

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Speaker 1: the basic functionality is free, and so you can just

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Speaker 1: download that app and it's it's just brand new. What

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Speaker 1: are you trying to make information out of? Like a

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Speaker 1: little podcast out of.

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Speaker 8: I'm not even trying to do a podcast. I'm a

447
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Speaker 8: licensed mortgage loan officer and so we have to do

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Speaker 8: continuing your education, and I really like to know the law.

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Speaker 8: So in my forty five minutes to an hour and

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Speaker 8: a half drive every day, i'd like to be listening

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Speaker 8: to it just so it could be playing in the background.

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Speaker 8: So that's what I'm trying to trying to get at. Yes,

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Speaker 8: I didn't want Yeah, I didn't want to use it

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Speaker 8: as a podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, so what it'll do is it'll take that law.

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Speaker 1: You can put the law into this notebook LM and

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Speaker 1: then it will create its own mini podcast out of that.

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Speaker 1: So it's not like but it uses the information in

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Speaker 1: that law. So for instance, this Take It Down Act,

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Speaker 1: which they just signed into law a couple this week,

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Speaker 1: I believe it was. I took that whole bill and

462
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Speaker 1: I put it into the notebook LM app and then

463
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Speaker 1: I made a podcast out of it, and it literally

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Speaker 1: went through the entire law and just explain every aspect

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Speaker 1: about it. And so it's like these two hosts that

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Speaker 1: are AI generated voices. They sound very real, but it is.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible. It's probably the best way to learn that

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life because it's the way

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Speaker 1: that people like to learn, which is just through audio

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Speaker 1: and listening. And so I have now everything that I

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Speaker 1: want to learn that's like kind of dense material, you know,

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Speaker 1: like do I really want to read all this?

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Speaker 2: You can put it in there and listen to it.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is, since it's powered by just the

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Speaker 1: stuff that you're putting in there, there's not a lot

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Speaker 1: of hallucination. Like the hosts don't really make stuff up.

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Speaker 1: They try to grab just from what you put in there,

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Speaker 1: so it should stay factual.

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Speaker 8: That's that's awesome, That's that's incredible. I appreciate the info,

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Speaker 8: so thank you so much. And we just started. I

481
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Speaker 8: just started listening to the AM channel and I appreciate

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Speaker 8: all them.

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Speaker 1: So that you're sharing, well, thank you. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I will continue to share because that's what I love

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Speaker 1: to do. I love those light bulb moments where you're

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Speaker 1: sitting and they're like, wait a second, that sounds like

487
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Speaker 1: something I could use. Now, I will say, Andrea, just

488
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Speaker 1: be a little patient with the app because it is

489
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Speaker 1: brand new, and I think Google got it out pretty

490
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Speaker 1: quickly because people wanted this so badly, but I have

491
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Speaker 1: noticed there. You know, there could be some quirks with it,

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Speaker 1: Like you know, when you press play on the audio overview,

493
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Speaker 1: it does take a couple seconds and sometimes it may

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Speaker 1: not work. But it's They've already had one update to

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Speaker 1: this app, so uh it is. It is happening quickly.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the call. Eighty to eight rich one oh

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight seven four to two four one

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Speaker 1: zero one.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Queen Ugly Duckling from Bronx, New York City writes in

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Speaker 1: I'm aware it's twenty twenty five, but in your opinion,

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Speaker 1: are there any chances a tech company will bring back

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Speaker 1: a quirty keyboard smartphone with all the modern bells and whistles.

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Speaker 1: I really missed the T Mobile sidekick. Nothing on the

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Speaker 1: market today, interests may Queen Ugly Duckling, You're not alone.

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Speaker 1: I think some people do miss the tactile feel of

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Speaker 1: a real keyboard. There is a product that came out

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Speaker 1: probably been around for a year or two now called

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Speaker 1: Clicks c l I Cks clicks and it is basically

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Speaker 1: a physical keyboard that you attached to a smartphone. So

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Speaker 1: it started with the iPhone. You would slip it in

512
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Speaker 1: there and it almost looks like a BlackBerry keyboard. They

513
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Speaker 1: would never say that, obviously, but I can. But they

514
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Speaker 1: also have now models for Samsung and Motorola, so it's

515
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Speaker 1: not like a sidekick per se. You know that was

516
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Speaker 1: the one who you flipped up. You know that thing

517
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Speaker 1: was so hot, that phone. But that phone you said,

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Speaker 1: modern smartphone. That was like, you know, proprietary software that

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Speaker 1: this is. You know, you can attach this to a

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Speaker 1: modern smartphone like an iPhone or a Samsung and get

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Speaker 1: all the benefit of that phone with this little quirdy keyboard,

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Speaker 1: So it's not you know, a phone that has it.

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Speaker 1: And yes, your phone's going to be a little bit

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Speaker 1: bigger because of this. But it's about one hundred, one

525
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars and the company says they've sold

526
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Speaker 1: over one hundred thousand of them, so clearly people like this.

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Speaker 1: We're actually going to have one of the founders of

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Speaker 1: the company on the show so soon, so we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to Clicks. Let's see what day, Oh here we go, uh, Saturday,

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Speaker 1: June seventh, So the weekend of June seventh, we will

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Speaker 1: have uh, let's see the CEO of Clicks on the show.

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Speaker 2: Eighty eight Rich one on one.

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Speaker 1: Remember everything I mentioned is linked up on the website.

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Speaker 1: So if you hear something I talk about and you

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Speaker 1: want to get a link richon tech dot TV. This

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Speaker 1: is episode one two. We'll be right back after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology at Triple eight Rich one

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Speaker 1: O one eight eight eight seven four to two four

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Speaker 1: one zero one.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it is Memorial Day weekend.

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Speaker 1: Uh. You know it's interesting we say Happy Memorial Day, right,

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Speaker 1: And I looked that up because I you know, I

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Speaker 1: write my newsletter. I'm like, is it is it appropriate

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Speaker 1: to say Happy Memorial Day? Because sometimes you forget, like

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Speaker 1: the true reason behind these holidays and Memorial Day is

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Speaker 1: to honor, you know, the men and women who died

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Speaker 1: while serving, you know, in the armed forces.

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Speaker 2: And so it's a solemn day.

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Speaker 1: But of course America we like to celebrate, you know,

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Speaker 1: and so you know, it's a barbecue, it's this, it's that.

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Speaker 1: So if I say Happy Memorial Day, obviously I am

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Speaker 1: thinking of all of the folks who have you know,

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Speaker 1: made sacrifices for this country and uh, to get us

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Speaker 1: to where we are today. So that is not lost

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Speaker 1: on me for any holiday. Fourth of July Memorial Day.

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Speaker 1: There are so many out there that we I think,

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Speaker 1: we work so hard that you know, these times that

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Speaker 1: we have off we just sort of enjoy. But there

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Speaker 1: are people out there that you know, have family members

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Speaker 1: and you think people that are much more connected to

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Speaker 1: this than some other people. So, uh, I am thinking

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Speaker 1: about that today. Eighty eight Rich one oh one is

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Speaker 1: the phone number eight eight eight seven four two four

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Speaker 1: one zero one if you want to hop on the

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Speaker 1: phone ask a question. Uh, let's see, let's go to

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Speaker 1: Diana in Orange County. She dialed up, Diana, you're on

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Speaker 1: with Rich.

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Speaker 9: Thank you. Rich. Should be a quick question here. I

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Speaker 9: was subjected to identity thefts and I'm in the process

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Speaker 9: of recovering. Among the recommendations I received was to only

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Speaker 9: use my cell phone or an iPad when I'm making

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Speaker 9: purchases and accessing any of my financial accounts, not to

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Speaker 9: use my laptop, and I wanted to know they were

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Speaker 9: told me that it's more secure, and I wanted to

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Speaker 9: know if you agree with that or if you have

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Speaker 9: another recommendation.

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Speaker 2: Who's telling you this?

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Speaker 9: Tell me that, oh, the computer place where I took

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Speaker 9: my laptop to be cleaned.

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Speaker 2: So did you have malware on your laptop?

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Speaker 9: I don't. Well, yeah, they showed me three or four

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Speaker 9: different sites that they that the criminals loaded onto my laptop.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and did you so did you fall for like

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Speaker 1: some sort of tech support scam where they said, hey,

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Speaker 1: we need to install it?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: All right, So there there is a bit of truth

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Speaker 1: to what they're saying. But if your computer does not

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Speaker 1: have malware or a key logger on it, you'll be okay.

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Speaker 1: But in general, I think what they're trying to say

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Speaker 1: is that because your smartphone, did you have an iPhone?

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Speaker 2: Or it's okay?

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Speaker 1: So I mean, in general, you know, smartphones are less

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Speaker 1: susceptible to spywear than a desktop computer. And so I

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Speaker 1: think what they're trying to say is you're probably safer

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Speaker 1: if you're on your phone because chances are nobody can

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Speaker 1: see what you're doing or intercept your information. And so

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Speaker 1: especially on the iPad, I mean, the the iOS operating

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Speaker 1: system is pretty rock solid when it comes to what

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Speaker 1: people can do or how they can spire or monitor

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Speaker 1: anything you're doing, Like it's almost like non existent unless

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Speaker 1: you are you know, a head of state, or you

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Speaker 1: are sort of targeted in attack that they install malware

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Speaker 1: on your phone, but most regular people are not. With

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Speaker 1: that said, I think, you know, common sense kind of

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Speaker 1: prevails in this case.

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Speaker 2: So I have a rule with.

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Speaker 1: My debit card versus my credit card, So and then

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Speaker 1: bank account, you got to be really really careful with

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Speaker 1: giving access to that, like that's almost like non existent

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Speaker 1: because you don't want to do that. But when it

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Speaker 1: comes to credit card versus debit card, if you're using

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Speaker 1: your credit card to shop online, I mean number one,

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Speaker 1: if someone gets your credit card number, it's not the

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Speaker 1: end of the world. You're gonna it's gonna be a headache.

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Speaker 1: But you call your credit card company, you say, hey,

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Speaker 1: this was fraud. I'm not paying and they say yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they just stop the charges. Now if it's your

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Speaker 1: debit card, it's a little more annoying because that's connected

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Speaker 1: directly to your bank account and so the money's gonna

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Speaker 1: come out. Now you've got to deal with this headache

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Speaker 1: of getting in touch with your bank and you got

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Speaker 1: to kind of fight them on it because you know

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Speaker 1: it's real money that has already gone out somewhere, so

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Speaker 1: it is it could be a little trick here to

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Speaker 1: recover that. So my rule of thumb in life and

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Speaker 1: online is, if my card is leaving my hand, I

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Speaker 1: use a credit card. If my card is staying in

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Speaker 1: my hand, I'm using my debit card. So if you

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Speaker 1: think about the internet, my card is pretty much leaving

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Speaker 1: my hand. So I'm going to use my credit card.

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Speaker 1: And I have shopped online for years. I've done my

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Speaker 1: online banking for years. The main thing we have to

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Speaker 1: be concerned about is other humans tricking us.

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Speaker 2: This idea of.

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Speaker 1: You know, just wandering around the web and something stealing

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Speaker 1: your information, is it happens, but it's it's mostly people

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Speaker 1: being tricked into giving up their information in some way.

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Speaker 1: You're on a site that might not be legitimate because

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00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: you find a great deal, but I think that that's

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Speaker 1: really what we're up against the most. So long story short, Diana,

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Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, if you

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Speaker 1: are practicing good hygiene when it comes to protecting your

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Speaker 1: personal information online, I think you should be okay. Now,

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Speaker 1: the other thing I would say is if you are

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Speaker 1: out and about, if you are traveling, if you're doing anything,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to be accessing your bank account, information,

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Speaker 1: like if you're logging into your bank or your credit

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Speaker 1: card or any sort of private financial stuff. You always

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Speaker 1: want to be on a secure connection, so not a

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Speaker 1: public Wi Fi connection. And if you're out and about

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Speaker 1: with your phone, make sure you're on your cellular connection,

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Speaker 1: not the Wi Fi at the hotel. Now, Wi Fi

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Speaker 1: is pretty secure, but there are still more ways that

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Speaker 1: people can get into that than the cellular connection. So

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Speaker 1: whenever I'm checking my bank, whenever I'm doing this stuff,

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Speaker 1: I usually switch to my cellular connection, and that is

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Speaker 1: very private. It's very secure, and you should be okay

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Speaker 1: with that.

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Speaker 2: Does that help?

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Speaker 9: Is that true for an iPad as well?

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Speaker 2: iPad?

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Speaker 1: If you're look, if you're on the Wi Fi on

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Speaker 1: the iPad at home, you're fine. If you're on the

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Speaker 1: Wi Fi at the hotel, you know, you're probably fine

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Speaker 1: if you're using your bank account app. But you just

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Speaker 1: have to be a little bit more cautious because there

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Speaker 1: could what's called a man in the middle attack where

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Speaker 1: someone has physically connected something to that router or the

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Speaker 1: hotel Wi Fi that they can intercept your information. Now,

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Speaker 1: most of the time it's encrypted anyway, but the reality

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Speaker 1: is I'm just giving you the very broad strokes here

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Speaker 1: of when you're you're truly secure and when you're less secure.

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Speaker 1: People are checking their bank accounts on these on these

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Speaker 1: public Wi Fi connections all day every day. Is everyone

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Speaker 1: getting hacked? No, but there could be a bigger chance

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Speaker 1: of that if you're doing that. So again, if you

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Speaker 1: want to be truly secure, truly safe, I think number

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Speaker 1: one is not falling victim to any sort of trickery

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Speaker 1: that we are approached with on a daily basis. And

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Speaker 1: if you if you follow me on Instagram, Diana, you

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Speaker 1: know that I am posting all of these scams that

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Speaker 1: people send me on a daily basis, and.

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Speaker 2: They are brutal.

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Speaker 1: I mean I just posted this one a couple days

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Speaker 1: ago where it's like Amazon, and it's an email that says, hey,

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Speaker 1: you have to update your payment and method to continue Prime.

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00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: This email is so perfect, there's not a spelling error,

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Speaker 1: the graphics are perfect, and then when you actually click,

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Speaker 1: it's incredibly detailed and perfect down to.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when it's asking for your social and your mother's

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Speaker 1: made a name and your phone number and your date

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Speaker 2: Don't ever give that information.

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Speaker 1: But then when you go to the if you made

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Speaker 1: it to the Verify payment page, this website is so good,

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Speaker 1: this fake website trying to steal your information that when

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Speaker 1: you put in your credit card number, if it's it

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Speaker 1: validates it instantly, and if it's not a valid number,

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Speaker 1: you just type in some random stuff it says invalid,

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Speaker 1: and then when you type in a number that works,

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Speaker 1: it even changes the icon to the current logo of

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Speaker 2: This is what we're up against. Welcome back to rich

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Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you on this Memorial

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Speaker 1: Day weekend, talking technology at Triple eight rich one oh

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Speaker 1: Tech dot tv. This is episode one twenty two. If

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Speaker 1: people that know get a little heads up. This hour,

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Speaker 1: we've got Dave Citron. He is with Google. He's going

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Speaker 1: to talk about all the new features of Gemini, their

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Speaker 1: AI app. If you haven't downloaded it, it's worth a try.

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Speaker 1: Even if you use chat GBT. This is Google's version

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Speaker 1: of that, and they continue to evolve it. It's interesting

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Speaker 1: all these AI companies. Every week they say they have

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Speaker 1: a new model. The model is sort of like the

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Speaker 1: the programming of the like the knowledge base of the AI.

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Speaker 1: And every week they're like, our model has gotten so

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Speaker 1: much better. It can do this and this and this

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Speaker 1: and that. And it's like it's like, okay, we get it.

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Speaker 1: You got a new model. It's like, just tell me

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Speaker 1: when it can do this, tell me when it can

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Speaker 1: do that. And these things are good, but they're not perfect.

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Speaker 1: They're not flawless. They still make mistakes, and they're still

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Speaker 1: a work in progress. Let's put it that way.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Shane in Colorado. Shane, what's up?

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Speaker 10: Hi?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, longtime fan, Thank you. Going back to dapoor. Oh wow, hey,

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Speaker 4: I really enjoy watching my screen saver on the computer

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Speaker 4: in my kitchen, seeing pictures of friends, family and uh.

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Speaker 4: And it comes from a big file, big photo file,

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Speaker 4: and quite often I'll see a picture of it's oh gosh,

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Speaker 4: I want to put that picture out or send that

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Speaker 4: picture to somebody, And of course the minute you click

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Speaker 4: on the photo with the screen saver shutsdown. This is

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00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 4: on Windows, the built in screensaver, and I'm wondering, is

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Speaker 4: there either a third party screensaver or is there a

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Speaker 4: way to get Windows to tell me where I can

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Speaker 4: find that particular file.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Windows will show you where that file is.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting because if you look at what Microsoft does

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Speaker 1: with the bing in the background, like if you set

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Speaker 1: your background to like the bang photo of the day

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Speaker 1: or whatever, it gives you, like you know where you

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Speaker 1: can click and get more information about it. I don't

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Speaker 1: see that functionality with the built in screen saver. So

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Speaker 1: I think your best bet is to probably get a

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Speaker 1: third party screen saver that will show the file name.

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Speaker 1: They're all in the same folder. I'm guessing right right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you just basically need like a program that will show,

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Speaker 1: like embed the file name sort of in like the

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Speaker 1: lower right hand corner or something.

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Speaker 2: I know that on my.

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Speaker 1: TV use I use the Google Photos screensaver, and even

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Speaker 1: on my Google Home like the little devices I have,

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Speaker 1: and it puts like the the day and the location

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Speaker 1: of the photo, so it gives me like an idea

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Speaker 1: of when that photo was taken and where.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so there's a Google Photos screensaver.

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Speaker 1: Well not not that I know of for Windows. Well,

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Speaker 1: now that I'm saying that that'd be, that'd be pretty

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Speaker 1: pretty handy. Actually, I'm looking up some screensaver third party

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Speaker 1: screensaver software. Let's see. There is one called g photoshow

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Speaker 1: dot com. Gphotoshow dot com and it says that it

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Speaker 1: will show the exif data of your picture, so customizable

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Speaker 1: captions with EXIF support. So I'm guessing that you can

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Speaker 1: have the file name display on that picture. So I'd

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Speaker 1: be that would be good. I would I would check

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Speaker 1: that one out. Let's see here, let's see here screensaver creator.

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Speaker 1: Let's see Uh yeah, so let's see file. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: looks like you can customize what it's going to show

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Speaker 1: on the on the screen, so that would probably be

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Speaker 1: the best way to do it. Yeah, display displays information

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Speaker 1: about the images, so there you go. Uh, let's see

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Speaker 1: if does this have a cost. So by now it

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Speaker 1: looks like you can download it try it out for free,

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Speaker 1: and then the license is sixteen euros, so I mean

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Speaker 1: for sixteen bucks. If you like this stuff, you know

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Speaker 1: it might be worth it. The other thing.

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Speaker 4: That's for Screensaver Creator or G photo.

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Speaker 1: Show gphotoshow dot com. So okay, now, the other thing

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Speaker 1: I would do is let me just see one thing,

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Speaker 1: because there's usually a way to uh, I go to

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Speaker 1: this website called alternative two dot net. Have you heard

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00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: of that one? And this one will tell you all

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Speaker 1: the alternatives for the screen saver or for that software.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, there is one called wallpaper Slideshow LT. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how old that is though. So what I

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Speaker 1: do is, whenever I'm kind of sizing up some new

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Speaker 1: software that I might Oh it's funny, it's the same company.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so same thing.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's the best bet at this point

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Speaker 1: is check out gphotoshow dot com.

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Speaker 2: That is probably gonna do it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Or I mean, look, if you want kind of a

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Speaker 1: free method of this, Shane, you can just use a

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00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: website that watermarks the photo and every time you want

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Speaker 1: to add a photo to that folder that you're making

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Speaker 1: with all of your screensaver photos, and maybe you already

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Speaker 1: have like one hundred of the men there and you don't

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Speaker 1: want to do this. But for the moving forward pictures,

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Speaker 1: you can run it through that website to put a

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Speaker 1: little watermark on it with the name of the photo

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Speaker 1: in the lower right hand corner, like the file name,

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Speaker 1: and then that's that's a cheap and free way of

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Speaker 1: doing this. So that's another option, and you can use

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Speaker 1: like Canva dot com to do that for free. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure there are plenty of photo watermarking websites that can

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Speaker 1: do that as well. So those are some options.

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Speaker 4: Alrighty, well great, this has been dragging me crazy for

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Speaker 4: many years now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, you you would think they would just

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Speaker 1: put a little a little clickable area in the lower

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Speaker 1: right hand corner that would take you right to that

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Speaker 1: to that photo file, right, I mean, that makes a

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Speaker 1: lot of sense.

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Speaker 4: So you know what my workaround has been is to

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Speaker 4: grab my phone and take a photo of the photo, yeah,

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Speaker 4: which isn't very clean and you know, you lose a lot,

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Speaker 4: but that's been my only out. So yeah, so this

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Speaker 4: will definitely be good.

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Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like you've got your homework and I

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Speaker 1: expect a full report on what works thanks for the call, Shane,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Eighty eight rich one oh one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one. We

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Speaker 1: have a new law that bans deep fakes and non

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Speaker 1: consensual images if you're sharing these. This is the Take

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Speaker 1: It Down Act ban's non consensual sharing of intimate images,

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Speaker 1: including AI generated deep fakes. Violators can face fines, jail time,

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Speaker 1: and mandatory restitution. The other interesting thing about is that

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Speaker 1: the law requires online platforms if you shared these, you know,

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Speaker 1: like a Twitter or x I guess, to remove this

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Speaker 1: content within forty eight hours if it's reported, and there

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Speaker 1: are stricter penalties if this involves minors. The FTC is

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Speaker 1: tasked with enforcing this law. The service providers, the online

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Speaker 1: platforms have until twenty twenty six to come up with

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Speaker 1: a way to let people report these things and also

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Speaker 1: a system to help take them down. Now, of course,

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Speaker 1: this is not without its criticism. Some people worry about

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Speaker 1: the impact on free speech, privacy, and also encrypted messages

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Speaker 1: because people find a way around this stuff. And then

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Speaker 1: there's concerns from digital rights groups over how they're going

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Speaker 1: to enforce this and also abuse of this. So is

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00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: this automatic? Is it? But apparently from everything I read,

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00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: this was got a lot of support from both sides.

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Speaker 1: I think people knew we needed something like this because

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Speaker 1: this is becoming such a problem in schools especially. I

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00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: mean for adults it's a problem, but for for minors.

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Speaker 1: These kids they're sharing these photos, sometimes not even realizing

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Speaker 1: that you shouldn't be doing this, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: times they don't realize the implications of doing something to

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Speaker 1: this extent. So this is going to be interesting because

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Speaker 1: federal crime is pretty serious, and the fact that these

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Speaker 1: online platforms have to come up with a way to

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Speaker 1: remove this content, that's that's interesting too. So that's something

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Speaker 1: to follow. The other big news this week, and a

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Speaker 1: open Ai in a six billion dollar deal. This is wild.

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Speaker 1: So Johnny Ive, if you're not familiar with the name,

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Speaker 1: a legendary Apple designer. He was at Apple for like

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Speaker 1: thirty years and he was credited with designing the iPhone

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Speaker 1: and so many of the products, the look and feel

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Speaker 1: past couple decades. And he left a couple of years

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Speaker 1: Open Eye is opening opening open Ai is acquiring his

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Speaker 1: hardware startup, which is called Io in that deal that's

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Speaker 1: worth six billion dollars. He still has his design company

881
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Speaker 1: thing it's called love Form. But this is just wild

882
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Speaker 1: and Sam Altman and Johnny Ive they came out this video.

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Speaker 1: It's like a love letter. It's like they're just gushing

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Speaker 1: over each other. It's really funny if you watch it, it's

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Speaker 1: very over the top. They meet at this coffee place

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Speaker 1: So what they're planning on launching is a new AI

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Speaker 1: device or devices that will use chat ebt, and they're

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Speaker 1: saying it's probably not a phone, although it could be

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Speaker 1: you never know, maybe not glasses, but something that's going

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Speaker 1: to be compact and elegant. And this is all rumor

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Speaker 1: and speculation at this point because they have not said

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Speaker 1: what they are going to launch, but they said it's

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Speaker 1: some of these AIS estuaries, like the pins and the

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Speaker 1: little Rabbit device with a tiny screen. None of them

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Speaker 1: have worked so far. Right now, the phone still seems

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Speaker 1: could be a really interesting one. Some sort of tiny

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Speaker 1: device that you talk to, but you don't always want

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Speaker 1: Who knows, but we'll see. But Johnny, I've hitting quite

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Speaker 1: the jackpot. I mean, this guy's already rich. I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest. You worked at Apple for thirty years.

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Speaker 1: If you designed the iPhone, you're you're doing okay to

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Speaker 1: begin with. Now you just sold a company for six

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Speaker 1: billion dollars. Probably ordered a double espresso at that place.

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Speaker 1: The bar that they went to, the little coffee shop

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Speaker 1: was something was a Copola place. It's like cafe. I

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Speaker 1: think it was called zop zotrope z o e t

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Speaker 1: r o p e zoa trope And that refers to

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Speaker 1: the old school way they did film, like that thing

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Speaker 1: there like anyway, it's all, oh yeah, it's a Francis

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Speaker 1: Ford Coppola's cafe. There you go eighty eight rich one

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Speaker 1: on one eighty eight seven four to two four one

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Speaker 1: zero one. You got a question about technology, give me

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Speaker 1: a call. Phone lines are open. We'll be reckoning welcome

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Speaker 1: back to rich on Tech Rich DeMuro here hanging out

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Speaker 1: with you talking technology triple eight Rich one O one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 1: If you don't want to hop on the phone, you

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Speaker 1: Once you're there, just hit contact. You can send me

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Speaker 1: an email that way. Yes, it does make its way

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Speaker 1: to my inbox. And yes, the email address is feedback

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Speaker 1: not feedback. If you listen to the show, you know

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Speaker 1: why it's called feedback. That's a combination of feedback and

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Speaker 1: mail bag.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I came up with it one of the early shows

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Speaker 1: and it just sort of stuck. Uh, Lisa wrote in

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Speaker 1: I caught the tail end of your last show where

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Speaker 1: you mentioned a coinbase scam. Unfortunately, my elderly brother fell

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Speaker 1: for it and lost thousands of dollars. I didn't get

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Speaker 1: to write down the details. Could you share what people

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Speaker 1: should do if they've been scammed? So, yeah, they came

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Speaker 1: out this week. So last week they said they were

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Speaker 1: they were hit with a Basically, hackers tricked their customer

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Speaker 1: service representatives into handing over information or actually bribed them.

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Speaker 1: I guess not tricked and bribed them, and then they

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Speaker 1: used that information to access customer data and trick the

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Speaker 1: customers into sort of sending them money. And so, I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry this happened to your brother. It's very unfortunate. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess this week they came out and said that

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Speaker 1: the breach affected sixty nine, four hundred and sixty one

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Speaker 1: customers at least. So now that doesn't say that every

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Speaker 1: one of them got tricked, but that means that's how

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Speaker 1: much customer data was taken in this heist. And this

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Speaker 1: started December twenty sixth, twenty twenty four. It was not

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Speaker 1: detected until May of this year. The hackers made off

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Speaker 1: of names, email addresses, phone numbers, addresses, government IDs, account balances,

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Speaker 1: transaction data, and some information about the accounts, but not

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Speaker 1: all of it was like clear. And then the hackers

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Speaker 1: went to coinbase and said, look, we did this pas

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Speaker 1: us twenty million dollars and this will all go away.

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Speaker 1: And Coinbase said, nah, we're not going to do that.

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Speaker 1: We're going to actually make good for these customers if

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Speaker 1: they get in touch with us, we're gonna well, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get in touch with them. Number one. So to

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Speaker 1: answer your question Coinbase sent out an email directly to

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Speaker 1: the customers that were affected by this, So your brother

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Speaker 1: should have gotten one if he did lose money. Now,

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Speaker 1: if he didn't, I would still get in touch with Coinbase,

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Speaker 1: and they've got a blog post on their website coinbase

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Speaker 1: dot com to explain what to do. But the blog

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Speaker 1: post is like protecting our customers and standing up to extortionists.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is titled. So I would have him

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Speaker 1: do that. But the main thing they're concerned about is that,

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Speaker 1: you know, people with a lot of money in these

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Speaker 1: accounts could be targeted because now they know how much

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Speaker 1: people have in these Coinbase accounts, or at least some

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Speaker 1: of them. So scary stuff, I mean, really, Again, the

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Speaker 1: thing that I talk about a lot in this show

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Speaker 1: is we have this idea of hackers like working to

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Speaker 1: get our information twenty four to seven, right, like actively

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Speaker 1: trying to like get into our computers, get into our phones.

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Speaker 1: And yes, that does happen, but most often, more often

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Speaker 1: than not for the average person, it's not necessarily that

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Speaker 1: it's really being tricked into giving up your information, or

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Speaker 1: they have some of your information and they somehow trick

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Speaker 1: you into giving up the rest so because there's so

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Speaker 1: much information about us floating around online, these hackers can

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Speaker 1: build sort of a profile of us. So they may

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Speaker 1: have a password but not the website that it works for,

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Speaker 1: and they may just try it on some major websites.

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Speaker 1: Or they may have, you know, a key piece of

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Speaker 1: information and they try that somewhere else. Or they may

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Speaker 1: contact you directly because they have your phone number and

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Speaker 1: they know you have a Bank of America account, and

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Speaker 1: they may even have the account number, and they trick

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Speaker 1: you into giving up more information about how to access

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Speaker 1: that account. So realistically, when people email me and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I've been hacked. My Facebook was hacked, my Instagram was hacked,

996
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Speaker 1: most of the time you're not necessarily hacked. You're being

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Speaker 1: tricked into giving up that information or giving up access

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Speaker 1: to that account. So be aware of the ways that

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Speaker 1: these hackers do this and you can really just be

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Speaker 1: better off. Let's see, speaking of being hacked, Gerald writes

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Speaker 1: in and see this stuff happens all the time. If

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Speaker 1: someone accidentally gives a scammer remote access to their computer,

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Speaker 1: something that always happens, does that scammer now have access

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Speaker 1: to all the saved passwords and a password manager I

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Speaker 1: had the person change their email and banking passwords, should

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Speaker 1: they also change the master password and regenerate all their

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Speaker 1: saved passwords? Great question. If the scammer had full access

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Speaker 1: to their system and the password manager was unlocked, it

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Speaker 1: is possible that these scam artists could have downloaded all

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Speaker 1: of those passwords and the safe logins in that password manager,

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Speaker 1: And if they did this quickly and without them knowing, yes,

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Speaker 1: this could have happened. So what I would do is yes,

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Speaker 1: I would definitely change the master password on that password

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Speaker 1: manager immediately. I'd turn on two factor authentication if you can.

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Speaker 1: I would go into the password manager security settings and

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Speaker 1: log out of all other devices, so if they somehow

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Speaker 1: logged in from another device with that information, they can

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Speaker 1: no longer access that. But I would definitely update the

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Speaker 1: passwords on any high risk accounts. It sounds like you

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Speaker 1: already did that with the email and banking. I would

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Speaker 1: continue to do that, especially for social media. It's probably

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Speaker 1: better to be overly cautious here than to not. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have to be very careful with these password managers.

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Speaker 1: Don't leave them where they stay unlocked forever, like you

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Speaker 1: want them to lock out after ten fifteen minutes. It's

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Speaker 1: a pain that you have to keep unlocking them for

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Speaker 1: a reason. And also I don't recommend mixing your password

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Speaker 1: manager with your two factor authentication code generator. A lot

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Speaker 1: of these password managers can also generate two factor authentication codes.

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Speaker 1: Problem with that they get into your password manager, they've

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Speaker 1: got your code as well, so use a secondary app

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Speaker 1: for that. All right, Coming up, we're gonna talk Dave

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Speaker 1: Citron of Google about new features in Gemini AI.

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Speaker 2: This is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology at

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Speaker 1: Triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one. Hope you

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Speaker 1: are having a fantastic day. I know I am. Just

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Speaker 1: being here with you is exciting to me, so thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening. Earlier I was talking about Google Io. By

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Speaker 1: the way, we're gonna get back to the phone lines

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Speaker 1: in just a moment. I've got a great interview. We

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Speaker 1: were talking about Google Io earlier. Obviously, Google's putting a

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Speaker 1: lot of emphasis on Gemini, which is their aim, and

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Speaker 1: live brings it to iPhone and Android where you can

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Speaker 1: show your camera to AI and also share your screen.

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Speaker 1: They're bringing it into Chrome so it can summarize web pages.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously they're wearables Android XR the glasses they

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Speaker 1: showed off, and also a headset. So let's hear from

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Speaker 1: Dave Citron. He's with Google. He's going to talk all

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Speaker 1: about the new features in Gemini, their AI assistant. So

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Speaker 1: let's talk Gemini. This is Google's big AI product. What

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Speaker 1: is Gemini? I mean, Gemini is many things.

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Speaker 11: First and foremost, it's a set of foundation models, and

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Speaker 11: we're really excited about our latest two point five pro model.

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Speaker 11: And then you probably heard today, but we announced a

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Speaker 11: kind of a high end version of that model that

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Speaker 11: we call you'd think that'll be available to our new

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Speaker 11: Ultra plan that basically is at the top of the

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Speaker 11: game with respect to benchmarks across kind of all measures.

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Speaker 11: Jemini also represents an app, and so that's the that

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Speaker 11: I'm on. We work on the Gemini app, which is

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Speaker 11: really Google's vision of what the future of assistance looks

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Speaker 11: like with respect to how AI can be a truly great, personal,

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Speaker 11: proactive and powerful personal assistant.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to Gemini, what do you think people

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Speaker 1: need to know about what that is? Exactly? Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: we do for you. Yeah, it's a great question.

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Speaker 11: I mean, ultimately, we are really excited about Gemini as

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Speaker 11: your personal AI assistant. We want Gemini app to be

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Speaker 11: the best assistant that's personal, proactive and powerful and really

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Speaker 11: the best place to try Google's latest and greatest AI models.

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Speaker 1: So if I haven't tried Gemini yet, what can I

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Speaker 1: do with it? Yeah?

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Speaker 11: So, I mean a lot of people use it just

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Speaker 11: to really understand the world a little bit better, whether

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Speaker 11: that's asking civil questions about things. We just launched a

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Speaker 11: new amazing feature where you can bring video.

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Speaker 1: Sharing into Gemini Live.

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Speaker 11: So Gemini Live is the ability for you to actually

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Speaker 11: talk to Gemini like you would another human and it

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00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 11: really sounds human like.

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00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: It's really interactive and quite delightful.

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Speaker 11: So we see a lot of our users just using

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00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 11: it to chat about really nothing in particular, or maybe

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00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 11: they're trying to ask about a topic or you know,

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00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 11: deep dive on something, maybe role play for an interview.

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00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 11: We just brought this new video sharing capability to that future.

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00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 11: So while you're having a conversation with Gemini, you can

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00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 11: turn on your camera and just point to anything and

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00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 11: have a conversation about what you're seeing. It's almost like

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00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 11: giving vision to Gemini as your assistant, and it's really

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00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 11: really exciting. One example, just the other day, I was

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00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 11: using it to play a board game with some family

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00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 11: and they really stuck on the instructions.

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Speaker 1: There was like five pages of instructions.

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Speaker 11: No one wanted to read it, so I just turned

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00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 11: it on camera mode in Gemini Live, showed it the instructions,

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00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 11: and then basically to set it on the table and

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00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 11: we all use it as kind of a you know,

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00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 11: let's talk to an expert on how to play this game.

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00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 11: I can even pick it up and show it the

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00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 11: board during the game and it would help me kind

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00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 11: of understand what I should do next and answer questions

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00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 11: that I didn't even know as someone who played the

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00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 11: game before. And that's a great example of an everyday

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00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 11: use case where you can bring Gemini with this through

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00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 11: camera future and really have it help you kind of

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00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 11: assist through everyday types of interactions. And we're rolling it

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Speaker 11: out now to everyone on both Android and iOS, so

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00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 11: if you haven't tried to definitely recommend it.

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00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: So it's almost like tapping into like this smart wealth

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00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: of knowledge almost embodied in like a humanistic voice.

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00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 11: Absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, And you know, because you're interacting with

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00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 11: it with voice, you know, it's almost like it can

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00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 11: and here, and then now with the camera future, it's

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00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 11: like it can see.

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Speaker 1: So, you know, it really is the closest we've ever.

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00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 11: Had in terms of a Google product of being like

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Speaker 11: a real assistant.

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Speaker 1: So you're in this every day, you're you know, leading

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Speaker 1: the product on this and understanding it. What do you

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00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: think the average person should sort of start with when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Gemini.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think some of our most favorable interactions where

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00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 11: you know, our users are telling us they love this product.

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00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: Is that deeper understanding about the world.

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Speaker 11: You know, Gemini can tap into Google's you know, trillions

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Speaker 11: of data points about everything that's going on in the web,

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Speaker 11: all of our maps data, you know, and all of

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00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 11: the data that you have in Gmail and Drive. You know,

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Speaker 11: with the user's permission, you can give all of that

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Speaker 11: access to Gemini as well. So once it has access

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Speaker 11: to all that information, you can now ask it any

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Speaker 11: sort of questions.

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Speaker 1: It never, you know, gets gets bored.

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Speaker 11: It never you know, criticizes you for asking, you know,

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Speaker 11: questions that it might find basic. You can do, you know,

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Speaker 11: any sort of questioning you want for as long as

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Speaker 11: you want. In fact, Gemini live that voice interaction I

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00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 11: was talking about. What we're seeing is users who when

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00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 11: they switch into that voice mode have five times longer

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00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 11: conversations because it's such a great way to actually like

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00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 11: probe about a topic, whether it's you know, something that's

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00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 11: going on in the world or something that's happening in

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00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 11: your Gmail. So I think that's maybe the best place

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00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 11: to start, and then from there start experimenting with these

1148
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 11: you know, media generation features like Imagine four where you

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00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 11: can create these stunning images, whether it's just for fun

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00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 11: or that you want to share with others.

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Speaker 1: There's so much information and it feels like this person

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00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: is so genius. It almost to me feels like cheating

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00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: on like the world, where you're like tapping into this

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00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: knowledge base that you never really were able to do before.

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00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:16,919
Speaker 1: Did you feel that way with like the board game?

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00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: Or should we feel guilty leaning on this resource that

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00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: feels so like superhuman? It's a really good question.

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Speaker 11: I mean, in general, you know, Google for the last

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00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 11: you know, ten plus years, has been incorporating AI into

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Speaker 11: its products, and you know, all these AI innovations even

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Speaker 11: before Jenai and large language models were about bringing these

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00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 11: superpowers to users at scale. You know, I think if

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Speaker 11: any one of our products stagnated and stopped innovating with

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00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 11: new futures, you know, you would never hear about these

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00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 11: products anymore. But the reason why we have so many

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00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 11: fans of Google products is because we're constantly delivering these

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Speaker 11: types of innovations. I think large language models maybe are

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Speaker 11: such a big breakthrough that it can feel like cheating,

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00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 11: you know, in a way, it's just like it's always been.

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Speaker 11: It's delivering these kind of breakthrough algorithms inside of our

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01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 11: products in a magic way that just makes your life easier.

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Speaker 11: It solves problems that you know, you didn't think technology

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01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 11: could solve for you, but now can. So I don't

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Speaker 11: think anyone should feel guilty. I think they should feel

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Speaker 11: excited about having these superpowers.

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Speaker 1: And what's fun about this for you? What do you

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Speaker 1: like about all this stuff?

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Speaker 11: I mean, I've always been in the product space because

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Speaker 11: I like taking the cutting edge technology and delivering it

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Speaker 11: in really magical, easy to use products and product experiences.

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Speaker 11: And I think, as we were just describing, large language

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Speaker 11: models are maybe one of the biggest breakthroughs we've had

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01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 11: as an industry for you know, maybe in my career

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01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 11: and so being at the forefront of trying to harness

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Speaker 11: that technology and deliver it in a way that's easy

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Speaker 11: to use. Again, not to continue talking about Gemini live

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01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 11: again and again, but it's maybe one of it.

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Speaker 1: It's a big thing. I mean, it's a paradigm shift

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01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: in our world. So how we you know, I aimed

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Speaker 1: it at something the other day and like explain the

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Speaker 1: whole thing. I mean it's just like, wait, what, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know about that thing.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, I mean it's basically like having a real

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Speaker 11: assistant and giving everyone an assistant again who has ears

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Speaker 11: and eyes and can actually help you with your world.

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Speaker 11: I mean we didn't even talk about the screen sharing

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Speaker 11: capability on the phone, but you know, any kind of

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01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 11: troubleshooting issue you're having on the phone where you're stuck

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Speaker 11: and maybe you might need to go ask a tech

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01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 11: friend how to fix something, now you can just open

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01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 11: Gemini share your screen and get help yourself in a

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01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 11: very conversational kind of intuitive way. Again, you can talk

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01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 11: to it with any form of expertise. You know, you

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01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 11: can be a novice. It's something or a deep expert

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01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 11: and it will match you. So it's pretty incredible.

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Speaker 1: So we're sharing our screen, we're sharing it looking at

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Speaker 1: is there. How is Google protecting user privacy throughout all

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Speaker 1: of this? Yeah, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 11: A super important question and something we take seriously across

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Speaker 11: you know, all of the ways we're integrating Gemini across

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01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 11: all of Google products, not just the Gemini app, but

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Speaker 11: in particular, you know, we kind of respect all of

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Speaker 11: Google's existing zero trust cloud security paradigms. In fact, Google

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01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 11: has been industry leading in terms of how it thinks

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01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 11: about a zero trust posture to all the data that

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Speaker 11: we store in Google's cloud, and Gemini is no exception

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01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 11: to that. In terms of the types of data that

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Speaker 11: you share with Gemini, all of that is within your control.

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Speaker 1: So by default nothing is shared.

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Speaker 11: And actually if you want to share things like your Gmail,

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Speaker 11: you have to turn it on and you can turn

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Speaker 11: it off at any time. And you know all the

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Speaker 11: different data sets that you can share, Google Calendar, Google Keep,

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Speaker 11: et cetera. Each of those have controls so that you

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01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 11: feel in control the entire time. You can also at

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Speaker 11: any time delete any of the conversation history you have

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Speaker 11: and even turn conversation history off completely if you want

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Speaker 11: a complete kind of no history type of experience. So

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Speaker 11: you know, we're always innovating in ways of making the

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Speaker 11: user feel in control of the entire experience.

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Speaker 1: All right, Once again, that was Dave Citron at Google

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Speaker 1: talking about Gemini, the company's AI assistant. So they are

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Speaker 1: really building something that is quite incredible with the idea

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01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: that you can use your phone screen or your camera

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01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: to show the AI what you need help with. And

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01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: again just think about the implications of that. So the

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01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: other day, I was trying to program my sprinkler system.

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Speaker 1: I literally just took a picture of the sprinkler and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: can you tell me how to program this? And I

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Speaker 1: gave it the zones around my house and it did

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01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: it down to the zones, I mean, step by step

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Speaker 1: without me doing anything. That used to require going online,

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01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: finding a PDF the instructions reading them. Now I just

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01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: got the step by step instructions from AI. So I've

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01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: got Gemini live on my phone right here. And so

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Speaker 1: what's interesting is that, I mean the accessibility idea behind

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01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: this is incredible, Like what this opens up for people

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Speaker 1: that may be a vision impaired or something like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just showing it right now. I've got it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm showing it something. Hey, Gemini, what am I

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01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: showing you right now?

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01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 7: You're showing me a teal highlighter marker? Are you looking

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01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 7: to highlights some thing on your screen?

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01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: I mean, so I just showed it a highlighter. It

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01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: told me what color it is. And then what do

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01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: you know about this protein bar that I'm showing you?

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01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: Does it look like it's good for me?

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01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 7: Okay, that's the Misfits caramel Fudge protein bar. It's plant based,

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01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 7: gluten free and has fifteen grams of protein. Is there

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01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 7: anything specific you're looking for in a protein bar?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean just this kind of information that it's

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01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: like you're unlocking. It's like imagine just having the world's

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Speaker 1: smartest friend at your disposal at all times. And the

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Speaker 1: fact that they made this for free is also really impressive.

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Speaker 2: So again, that's the Gemini app.

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Speaker 1: iOS Android, download it, try it, just play with it.

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Speaker 1: Eighty eight rich one O one will be back after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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Speaker 1: out with you talking technology at triple eight rich one

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Speaker 1: oh one eight eight eight seven four to two four

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Speaker 1: one zero one. You know when I'm doing the finger dancing,

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01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: I like the song Bobo just shakes his head. Finger dancing,

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01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: you know, you just put your fingers in the air.

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01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: You kind of dance with your fingers off rhythm, off rhythm. Well,

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Speaker 1: nobody ever said I had rhythm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, no.

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Speaker 1: One did ever hear in the history, no one has

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01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: ever said that let your fingers do the walking. Do

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Speaker 1: you remember that Boboju does that ring a bell? It

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01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,439
Speaker 1: sounds bou It was the Yellow Pages back in the day. Oh,

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01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: you're right, because the picture was a hand walking over

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01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: the air.

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01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 2: Yes, and like you let your fingers do the walking.

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01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: And I know when I said the finger dancing, I

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Speaker 1: was like, wait a second, finger dancing must be related

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01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: to finger walking.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 1: Okay, your name is Richard from now.

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Speaker 2: You're not rich anymore. You're richer only my mom calls

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01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 2: me Richard.

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Speaker 1: You're acting your age now, rich ol Uh, let's go

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Speaker 1: to Gina in Florida.

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Speaker 2: Gina, you're on with rich Okay.

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Speaker 9: My question is that.

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Speaker 10: The particular one that you mentioned about downloading elevenreader dot ten.

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Speaker 10: I found that that particular ability to download as well

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Speaker 10: as so many others that I attempt to download come.

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Speaker 6: With a catch.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that is that you have to agree to their

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Speaker 10: affiliates marketing to you. In other words, you have to degree,

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Speaker 10: excuse me, agree to all of the terms and all

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Speaker 10: of their extra.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, and Gina, Gina, can you move to a

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Speaker 1: spot in your house where you can your phone works better?

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Speaker 2: I can't. You're breaking up? No, I can't.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you're talking about agreeing to affiliate. I'm confused.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the eleven labs and I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: what you mean by that. So if you're yeah, okay.

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Speaker 10: Right now, yeah, okay, okay, what do you mean downloading

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Speaker 10: just like any other downloads that are free, they want

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Speaker 10: to agree to the terms and conditions which allows them

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Speaker 10: to market your your site to their affiliates, which causes

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Speaker 10: ad intermittently for like thirty seconds. It's disruptive and is

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Speaker 10: there any way to avoid that? Because if you can't

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Speaker 10: move on unless you agree to their terms, which creates

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Speaker 10: their affiliates contacting you.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, if you're downloading a free app, you

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Speaker 1: know if you don't agree to the terms and conditions,

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Speaker 1: you can't use the app. Now, when it comes to

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Speaker 1: marketing to you, I'm not sure. Like, if you're talking

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Speaker 1: about the app that we mentioned, which is the eleven

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Speaker 1: Labs the eleven Reader, was there something that said we're

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Speaker 1: going to sell your information to someone.

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Speaker 10: Well, whenever you see the terms and agreements that you

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Speaker 10: agree that our affiliates, we don't even know who their

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Speaker 10: affiliates are. It doesn't delineate whose affiliates are so they

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Speaker 10: can telemarket, need to email, phone call.

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Speaker 1: Well okay, so I just I just signed up for

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Speaker 1: this app fresh and it didn't ask me to do

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Speaker 1: any of that. I didn't have to agree to anything.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not sure. Maybe you got the wrong app.

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Speaker 1: I mean I do think that there are now look,

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Speaker 1: I mean what you're saying is with terms and conditions. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that is a very common thing on apps. And if

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Speaker 1: you're getting something for free, you know, the adage is

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Speaker 1: you are the product, right like your data is the product.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not disputing the fact that if you're signing

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Speaker 1: up for stuff with your email, yes there is a

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Speaker 1: chance that you're you will be marketed to. And if

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Speaker 1: you're giving your phone number, you're giving your address. These

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Speaker 1: companies use that data to then remarket to you, and yes,

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Speaker 1: that is true. Now the app I specifically mentioned does not.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see any sort of terms and conditions you

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Speaker 1: had to scroll through that said they're going to sell

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Speaker 1: to you. So I don't maybe you got the wrong

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Speaker 1: app on that, because there are and this happens all

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Speaker 1: the time. You search for an app that I recommend

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Speaker 1: on a show or on my website or on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: you search for it. There's apps that sound similar or

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01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: look similar, and these apps do this on purpose and

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01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: they turn out to be totally bogus, and you got

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Speaker 1: to be very careful with that. So I do want

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Speaker 1: to give that warning. But you know, to your bigger question, Gina,

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Speaker 1: I would say Number one, mask your email address whenever possible.

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Speaker 1: So if you you know, if you have something like Google,

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01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: you can use a plus sign and then some any

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Speaker 1: code you want after that and it'll make a one

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Speaker 1: time or a unique email address, or use something like

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Speaker 1: ten minute mail to come up with a unique email.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, the thing is, it's almost like

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Speaker 1: an agreement with these companies. Nobody reads the terms and conditions,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, they do reserve a lot of rights. Very

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Speaker 1: often to use the information you provide to their best advantage,

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Speaker 1: which maybe collating, collecting it, putting it together, grouping it

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Speaker 1: with other people, coming up with like sort of who

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Speaker 1: you are, and using that to market. Now, I think

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Speaker 1: that in general, whenever you can opt out of any

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Speaker 1: of that sharing, you know, opt out of it. If

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Speaker 1: you can't, you have to decide is this product worth

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Speaker 1: the what I'm giving up in using this product, something

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Speaker 1: like eleven Labs reader. Like I said, I didn't see anything.

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Speaker 1: I just signed up fresh and I didn't see anything

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Speaker 1: that said, hey, We're going to sell your email. But yes,

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Speaker 1: there are some apps that do say things like that.

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Speaker 1: But what I would say is look at the terms

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Speaker 1: and conditions and if you want, you can even throw

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Speaker 1: them into chat EBT and say, hey, you know, like,

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Speaker 1: what do I need to know? Is this dangerous? If

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Speaker 1: are they going to sell my information? And I've done

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Speaker 1: that for sure. I was signing up for something the

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01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: other day, I think it was Verizon sent me a

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01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: notice that said, hey, we're changing some things in the

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Speaker 1: terms and conditions, and I popped it into chat gbts

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01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: what does this mean exactly?

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Speaker 2: And it explained you know. So I think that that's

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Speaker 2: a good point, Gina.

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Speaker 1: I think the the bigger point is to limit the

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Speaker 1: amount of information you share. So Number one, get a

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Speaker 1: secondary phone number, like a Google Voice number or a

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Speaker 1: text now whatever. Get a secondary phone number and use

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01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: that to sign up for stuff. You know, all that

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Speaker 1: stuff at the grocery store, those little club cards and

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01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 1: things like that. So do that. Get a cloaked or

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Speaker 1: an email address that's disposable or secondary one.

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Speaker 2: Duck dot com they have it. That's Duck. You know

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Speaker 2: that Duck Duck duc Go website.

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Speaker 1: They have an email address you can use that's sort

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Speaker 1: of like a private email address. There's also that website

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Speaker 1: we talked about in the show, cloaked dot com that

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Speaker 1: helps you make an entirely new identity for every website

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Speaker 1: that you go to.

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Speaker 2: Do I spell that right, cloaked cloaked dot com.

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Speaker 1: Eighty eight rich one on one eighty eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. This is rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology. Triple eight rich one oh

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Speaker 1: one eighty eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 1: It is Memorial Day weekend and Adobe says, yes, people

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Speaker 1: will shop, There will be online deals.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: They expect this to be the first big e commerce

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Speaker 1: weekend for discounts of twenty twenty five, and it's just

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Speaker 1: the slide into the end of the year from this.

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Speaker 1: I guess deals range from seven to ten percent off

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Speaker 1: categories like electronics, apparel, and sporting goods, so not too much.

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Speaker 1: Looks like clothing will be the most ten percent off,

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01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 1: sporting goods nine percent, appliance is eight percent, and for

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Speaker 1: the first time ever, more than half of sales this

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Speaker 1: weekend expected to come from mobile phones.

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Speaker 2: Do you shop a lot on your mobile phone? I don't.

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Speaker 1: I still prefer the desktop for online shopping. I just

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Speaker 1: feel like it's easier now. I will say there is

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Speaker 1: one aspect I do like on the mobile phone better,

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Speaker 1: and that is Apple Pay or Google Pay seems to

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Speaker 1: work better like the checkout on the phone versus the desktop.

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Speaker 1: Some websites support it, and it's getting a little easier,

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Speaker 1: but I just feel like it's so much easier on

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Speaker 1: the phone to shop. Like with the Apple Pay, especially

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01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: Google Pay, I've noticed is popping up more on my

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Speaker 1: desktop for some reason. But my wife, she actually was

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Speaker 1: ordering something this weekend and she couldn't get the website

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Speaker 1: to work on her desktop, and I said, let me

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Speaker 1: try it for my phone. Sure enough, it worked just fine.

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Speaker 1: Because sometimes there's other things running on your desktop as well,

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01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,560
Speaker 1: like on your browser. Like I have so many extensions

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01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 1: that interfere with websites. Sometimes they're just not working. I'm like,

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01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 1: it's probably one of my extensions. So I go to

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Speaker 1: my phone. Everything works perfectly. So a little pro tip.

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Speaker 1: If something's not working on your desktop, it's probably not

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Speaker 1: the website. It's probably something on your computer. Go to

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Speaker 1: your phone and try it. There. Data from Adobe Analytics

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01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: they track over a trillion retail visits.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's a lot. And then other.

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Speaker 1: News this week, Regeneron is buying the bankrupt twenty three

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01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,839
Speaker 1: and me for two hundred and fifty six million dollars

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01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: and they say that they will keep the service running

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Speaker 1: and uphold existing privacy policies. That's what a lot of

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01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 1: people are wondering, like, what's going to be done with

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01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 1: this treasure trove of DNA information that twenty three in

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01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: meter is collected over the years twenty three and meters,

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01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: by the way, was worth like six billion dollars. They

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01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: sold it in bankruptcy for two hundred and fifty six million.

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01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: How far they fell. The company, Regeneron wants to use

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01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 1: this data to advance their genetic research. I guess they

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01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 1: come up with drugs. They already have their own database

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01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: of three million people. Let's see what else? Anything else? Yeah,

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01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 1: they say they'll maintain the high standards of data privacy,

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01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 1: security and ethical oversight. So again, Regeneron Biotech Giant is

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Speaker 1: buying twenty three and meters for two hundred and fifty

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01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 1: six million dollars. That includes all of their operations in

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01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: his database of fifteen million customers. Let's go to Donald Now,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting. Okay, wait, it looks like Donald in Arizona's

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01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: not there anymore. Okay, yeah, I don't think that Donald

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01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: is there. Let's go oh, yep, he's done. Let's go

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01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: to Let's see what Wayne has to say in north Ridge.

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Speaker 2: Wayne, you're on with Rich.

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01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 3: Hi, Rich, Hi, thanks to take my call.

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01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just heard the last session about the AI and

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Speaker 3: I'm just a little worried about that because it's like,

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01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 3: whose truth is that going to be? I'm one of these,

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01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,759
Speaker 3: you know, conspiracy guys, and it's like, you know, your

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01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 3: friend there's mentioned that the Google guy mentioned that he

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01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 3: was circulating all of this algorithm throughout you know that

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01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 3: all of Google has. And it's like people are wanting

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01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 3: to know how the world is, and it's like, well,

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01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 3: there's so much out there misinformation the right information that

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Speaker 3: I don't know who's going to be are the Google

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01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 3: team people putting in their thoughts on it, or I

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Speaker 3: just don't know. I'm not a fan of AI.

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01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: Well okay, yeah, and I understand. I hear where you're

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01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: coming from. And I do think that inherently anything that

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01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 1: is programmed by humans, there is bound to be you know,

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01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 1: the human slant on that, right, because you're you're coming

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01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: from a human perspective, So you're programming in only what

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01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 1: you know. And so I understand where you're coming from.

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Speaker 1: And I don't I'm not going to sit here and

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01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: say that everything on AI is right or it's truthful,

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01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: because again, it's a computer system. So and here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: It's like, if you look at the way Google search

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01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 1: worked in the past, right, you would type in something

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01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: and it would give you a bunch of links, and

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01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 1: you would click through those links and you would draw

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01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 1: your own conclusion. I mean, let's just say you want

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01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 1: an ant here to a basic question like is red

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01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: Dye number five bad for you?

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01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 2: Right? Like, how do we truly know?

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01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 1: Like there's a million opinions on that out there, So

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01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 1: how do you really know? Now if I asked the

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Speaker 1: AI let's see, let's just ask that I asked is

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01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: the world flat? And that I maybe? Now, Wayne, you

1504
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:21,799
Speaker 1: said you're a conspiracy theorist?

1505
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 4: Do you is?

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01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 2: Does it go that far? No?

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01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so you're you're yeah, Okay, I've been to

1508
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 1: the moon and back. Okay, well there you go. So

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01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: we have So let's just say, is red Die five?

1510
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: Is that what it's called? Or is it red Die forty?

1511
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: I think it's forty bad free?

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01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:42,719
Speaker 3: I think number five?

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01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: Okay, uh well for some reason it corrected forty. Uh

1514
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 1: So it says whether red Die forty is bad for

1515
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 1: you is a complex question with no simple yes or no.

1516
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,759
Speaker 1: It depends on individual sensitivities. And then they go through.

1517
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: Now this new AI that I was talking about, not

1518
01:17:58,200 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: the one he was talking about that's Gemini. This is

1519
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: AI mode on Google. It actually does a pretty thorough

1520
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 1: job of giving you sort of what people have come

1521
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 1: to the conclusion of and then the links to those

1522
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 1: different websites. So it's got concerns and potential negative impacts.

1523
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: Then it's got the FDA approval and safety, and then

1524
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: it's got important considerations and then a conclusion. So again,

1525
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 1: I think what the goal of these systems would be

1526
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 1: in a perfect world is to let people draw their

1527
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 1: own conclusions, but give them all the sides of the

1528
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 1: arguments to whatever you're talking about. Now, for things like

1529
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: is the Earth flat, I don't really think there's that

1530
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 1: much of a true debate about that, even though I

1531
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 1: do know that there are some people out there that

1532
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 1: do debate that. But I think that for those types

1533
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: of answers, it will give you, Like if I ask

1534
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: is the world flat, it's saying, no, the world is

1535
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 1: not flat. It is a sphere slightly bulging at the

1536
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: equator and flattened at the poles. There you go, and

1537
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: then it says the Earth's round shape is supported by

1538
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: several points. So for stuff like that, it will just

1539
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: give you maybe more of a definitive answer. But for

1540
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:04,719
Speaker 1: things that you know you may wonder, like you said,

1541
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorists, it may give you all the different angles.

1542
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: It may not come to a standard conclusion. And I think, again,

1543
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: there are biases in everything that a human is programming.

1544
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: That's just the reality, because there may be things that

1545
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,440
Speaker 1: you're programming in that we don't even know are biases,

1546
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: and that is bound to happen. So I think that

1547
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: when you think about these different AI systems are we

1548
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 1: are trying to make them better, but they are only

1549
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: as perfect as we as humans can make them. And

1550
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: I do think that the different systems have different sort

1551
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: of worldviews, different thoughts. I mean, if you're programming something

1552
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 1: in America versus France or another country, you know, you

1553
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 1: bring a certain depth and background to your life that

1554
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: other places have different ones. So I think that that's

1555
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 1: a very valid point. And I think I think that

1556
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: AI is only as perfect as humans are perfect, which

1557
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: is to say we're not. And so that's a very

1558
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 1: long answer for I think that this stuff is still forming.

1559
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: And I think the more dangerous or the more concerning

1560
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 1: part to me is when AI starts to sort of

1561
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 1: think and act on its own. And that's when I

1562
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 1: will be a little bit more concerned because right now,

1563
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 1: if I ask a question to AI and it gives

1564
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 1: me an answer and I don't like it. I just

1565
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, I'm done. But if it gets to

1566
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 1: a point where AI is doing things, and again, we

1567
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 1: are going to get to the point where AI is

1568
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 1: built into robots that will move like humans and think

1569
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: like humans and act like humans, that day is coming

1570
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 1: and it's going to be interesting. It's going to be

1571
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:49,719
Speaker 1: really interesting. Speaking of AI, here's a couple of fails.

1572
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,480
Speaker 1: I guess this is the fail section of the show.

1573
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: This story out of Chicago, Chicago Sun Times published a

1574
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: summer book reading list, and it had fake titles. It

1575
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: included nonexistent novels by real authors like Andy I think

1576
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 1: It's weir who I read the Martian and the writer

1577
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: admitted to using AI to help generate the list and

1578
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 1: didn't bother to fact check it. The author said the

1579
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:25,719
Speaker 1: mistake was stupid. It was a stupid error, and accepted

1580
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: full accountability. This was And then of course the newspaper said,

1581
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 1: we got this from a third party and we just

1582
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: published it, so yes, we probably should have looked at

1583
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 1: it as well. So this went through the author that

1584
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 1: didn't look at it. Then that author's editor didn't look

1585
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 1: at it. The syndicator didn't look at it, and then

1586
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: the newspaper published it without looking at it. I mean,

1587
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 1: how many points of failure do we need for someone

1588
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: to realize that Andy Weir did not write a new

1589
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 1: book titled The Algorithm. I mean, I don't follow him

1590
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 1: very closely, but I'm pretty sure that when he writes

1591
01:21:57,880 --> 01:21:59,719
Speaker 1: a new book, I would be aware of the title,

1592
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 1: and I'd be curious because the guy wrote The Martian,

1593
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 1: a very popular book in Hail Mary, which I read

1594
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 1: and they were great. But it's like I think I

1595
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: would hear if the guy wrote a new book, even

1596
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 1: though I'm not one hundred percent sure on how to

1597
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 1: pronounce his last name. But that's just a me problem,

1598
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 1: as my kid would say. So the point is, if

1599
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: you're using AI in your job, especially faking it till

1600
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 1: you make it, please fact check it, double check what

1601
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 1: you're submitting to your bosses. And then another stupid news,

1602
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 1: the chromebook challenge. This is a new tick. I hate

1603
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 1: these TikTok trends. I don't use the word hate on

1604
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 1: this show very often because I think it's a strong word,

1605
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 1: but I hate these TikTok trends, stupid TikTok trends. These

1606
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 1: kids were told to stick things in the USB ports

1607
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: of their school issued chromebooks to cause them to smoke,

1608
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 1: to fire, to short circuit, to let out.

1609
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 2: Toxic chemical fumes.

1610
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 1: Why would you do this? You think it's funny. I

1611
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: guess you might when you're eight years old or ten

1612
01:22:59,120 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 1: years old.

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01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:00,799
Speaker 10: UH.

1614
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 1: Incidents reported across the US Colorado, Arizona, New Jersey. In California,

1615
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 1: one San Diego school district reported over seven thousand dollars

1616
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 1: in damage from sixteen to script.

1617
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 2: No.

1618
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: I dispute that sixteen chromebooks do not cost seventeen no.

1619
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 1: Hold on seven thousand divided by sixteen hold on, Okay,

1620
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 1: let me just do this seven thousand divided by sixteen okay, Oh, okay,

1621
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty seven dollars a chromebook. Okay, I

1622
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,799
Speaker 1: I guess I was wrong. That could be true. Don't

1623
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 1: stick stuff in the side of your chromebook and tell

1624
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 1: your kids not to stick stuff in the side of

1625
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 1: your chromebook. Eighty eight rich one oh one eighty eight

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01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: seven four to two four to one zero one more

1627
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 1: rich on Tech coming your way right after this. Welcome

1628
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out

1629
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 1: with you, talking technology. The website for the show Rich

1630
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 1: on tech dot TV. If you want to link to

1631
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 1: something I mentioned, just go to the website and you

1632
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 1: can see these show notes. This is episode one twenty two.

1633
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: Got an email from Rick in Arizona. He says, I

1634
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: just bought a new pickup and I couldn't figure out

1635
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: what two of the plugs on the rear bumper were for.

1636
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: I asked Facebook groups, two dealerships, and an auto parts store.

1637
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 2: Nobody knew.

1638
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 1: Then I showed them to Gemini AI through my phone

1639
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 1: camera and bam, it told me exactly what they were

1640
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: and what kind of plugs I needed.

1641
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 4: Wow.

1642
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: I guess this show brought to you by Gemini AI

1643
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: because we've talked about it a lot. But again, this

1644
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 1: is the kind of wow moments people are going to

1645
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 1: start to have with this stuff because you don't realize.

1646
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 1: Just like the other day, I was trying to fix

1647
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,759
Speaker 1: something in my house and I just pointed the camera,

1648
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 1: the Gemini camera at the thing I wanted fix, and

1649
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 1: I said, who do I call to fix this? I mean,

1650
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 1: just something as simple as that, and it gave me

1651
01:24:58,280 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: a list of I said, who do I search for

1652
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 1: and YELP to fix this?

1653
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 2: And sure, enough.

1654
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,680
Speaker 1: It gave me the person and I was like, oh,

1655
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 1: I would have never thought about that. Turns out a

1656
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: plumber you need to fix a clog toilet. No, I'm

1657
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: just KIDDINGFA. You know, sometimes Bobo is like looking off

1658
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 1: and I just want to make sure he's listening. The

1659
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: smartest dumb guy I know, it's called dad jokes, you know,

1660
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: a couple other cool things.

1661
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 2: Okay, so coming up this hour, we've got a guest.

1662
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: Jason Ball, my old He is the guy that brought

1663
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 1: me to Los Angeles actually back in the day and

1664
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 1: hired me twice.

1665
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 2: This guy hired me twice. But now he's no longer

1666
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 2: my boss.

1667
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about I can, you know,

1668
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 1: ask him anything but longtime news executive and he is

1669
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: now reinventing himself doing a lot of different things. He's

1670
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: got a podcast, he's got a newsletter. So this idea

1671
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 1: of after having a career for so many years now

1672
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: he's like leaning on all these tech products like AI

1673
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 1: and all these newsletter things to like, you know, new stuff.

1674
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 1: So we'll hear his take on that wing. This was

1675
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 1: also at Google Io. This I've never seen before, but

1676
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 1: it was a drone delivery service and they were delivering

1677
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: pies across the They were delivering pies from one end

1678
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,600
Speaker 1: of the sort of amphitheater to the other, and it

1679
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 1: was pretty cool. So I got to watch this and

1680
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it because these drones that they're using

1681
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 1: almost looked fake. They looked like a model airplane, but

1682
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 1: they were like super lightweight. The only weigh eleven pounds.

1683
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: And so what they did was and this was interesting,

1684
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: is that the drone it's almost it's almost like autonomous,

1685
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 1: I think, where it flies up into the air, it

1686
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,919
Speaker 1: drops down a rope. There's a person there that clips

1687
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: the payload onto the rope, and then it shimmys it

1688
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 1: back up. It like sucks it back up, and then

1689
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 1: it flies over to the other area. And this is

1690
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 1: the thing that I realized. The drone does not land

1691
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 1: on the ground, like if you're getting a delivery, it's

1692
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 1: not gonna land on your front lawn. It hovers and

1693
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 1: then it drops using that rope the thing that you

1694
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 1: are getting delivered. It sort of like lowers it down

1695
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: to the ground and then somehow detaches it, I guess,

1696
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 1: and then it takes the rope back up. So again

1697
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 1: This is called Wing. This is one of Google's or Alphabet,

1698
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, Google's parent company. They're sort of side bets

1699
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:21,879
Speaker 1: and they're doing this in two cities right now, Dallas

1700
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: and Charlotte. They're actually delivering stuff from drones with Wing

1701
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 1: from Walmart and DoorDash. So the drones, like I said,

1702
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 1: weigh eleven pounds. They can deliver small packages up to

1703
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 1: two and a half pounds, and these things fly up

1704
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 1: to sixty five miles an hour. Most deliveries are in

1705
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: as little as fifteen minutes. And Google CEO said that

1706
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: also they helped deliver hurricane relief during hurricane season. So

1707
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 1: again it's not just like commercial use of this, it's

1708
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 1: like we can also help people like get things, get

1709
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 1: supplies to people in places that are really tricky.

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01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 2: It's called Wing.

1711
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: If you want to check it out, see the video

1712
01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 1: I put out on my Instagram at rich On Tech.

1713
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 2: Pretty wild.

1714
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard about the drone deliveries, but I've

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01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 1: never actually seen it until now. Twelve South this is genius.

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01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 1: I've been using this cable for a couple of weeks.

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01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 1: Now I can finally tell you about it. It's called

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01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 1: the twelve South Power cord, and it's so simple that

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01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 1: you'd think to yourself, wait a second, why didn't someone

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01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 1: come out with this before. So you know how when

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01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 1: you go somewhere you're traveling, you need to bring a

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01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 1: power chord, right, and you've got the power plug and

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01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: then you've got the us SEA cable or whatever you

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01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: need to plug into that plug. Well, this is just

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01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 1: a single cable. It comes with a thirty watt USBC

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01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: charger and cable all in one, so there's no brick

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01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 1: to search for. And it's a really nice design. And

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01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: this is the best part. It comes in two lengths

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01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 1: four feet and a generous ten feet of cable. So

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01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't know about your kids, but my kids love

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01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 1: to have their iPads plugged in while they're playing because

1732
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 1: those roadblocks and Fortnite or not Fortnite, what do they

1733
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: play roadblocks and uses so much power on their iPad

1734
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 1: it's always going dead, so they like to keep them

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01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: plugged in. But like those little cables you get with

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01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 1: the iPad are like, you know, just a couple of

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01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: feet ten feet.

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01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 2: This thing is great. Fifty bucks.

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01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: It's called the twelve South power cord and it's now

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01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 1: available anyway, brilliant simple idea. Coming up, We're going to

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01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 1: talk to Jason Ball, news executive reinventing himself with a

1742
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 1: new podcast and newsletter.

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01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:31,679
Speaker 2: This is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech.

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01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 1: Rich Demurou here hanging out with you, talking technology on

1745
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 1: this Memorial Day weekend. Hope you're having a nice day.

1746
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 1: Hope you got something good planned. We are going to

1747
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:45,719
Speaker 1: bring on a guest that I've known for a long time,

1748
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 1: a guy who has hired me twice, so thank you

1749
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 1: for that. Jason Ball no longer my boss, so all

1750
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: bets are off. I can say whatever I want at

1751
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 1: this point. But Jason Ball, welcome to the show.

1752
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 5: Thank you, thanks for having me so forward to it.

1753
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 1: Jason a longtime news executive. Believe he came to LA

1754
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 1: with k CAL nine and then KTLA for many years

1755
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 1: where I worked with him both places actually, But a

1756
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 1: couple of years ago we left the business to open

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01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 1: up a hotel in Palm Springs, right, is that right?

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01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 5: Yes, yep.

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01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 12: We bought a hotel in April twenty twenty one and

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01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 12: moved up to Palm Springs and we've been rand ever since.

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01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: And you've been running that. But now you sort of

1762
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 1: got that itch again to do a couple of things

1763
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 1: with the Creator space. So now you've got a new

1764
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 1: podcast and you've got a newsletter that you're doing. So

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01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 1: let's first talk about Life after TV News number one.

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01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 2: What is it like?

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01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean to go from such a you know, that's

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01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: a big shift you took in your life.

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01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 5: I mean, he was a big change.

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01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:51,839
Speaker 12: I left in February twenty one, right after the pandemic.

1771
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 12: We're still kind of you know, the last part of

1772
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 12: of the pandemic.

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01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 5: Things were starting to.

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01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 12: Open up again, but it was just it was time

1775
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 12: for me to go do something else, and it was

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01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 12: it was a little bit hard at first. I was like, who, well,

1777
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,680
Speaker 12: if I'm not the news director at KJLA. So it

1778
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 12: took me a while, but yeah, four years later, I

1779
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 12: finally decided I need to get back in, dip my

1780
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 12: toe back in a little bit. So I created this

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01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 12: podcast called Life after News about Life after News.

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01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 5: My life.

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01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 12: Lots of people's lives. Some people choose to leave, some

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01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 12: people are you know, in this business, there's a lot

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01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 12: of people laid off. There was a great resignation back

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01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 12: in twenty twenty one. I was part of that and

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01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 12: so many people were, So it's interesting that I like

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01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 12: the idea of taking those skills that we learned in

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01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:35,679
Speaker 12: the newsroom and as journalists and using them for something else.

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01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 1: As I say, sometimes the business leaves you. That's what

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01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 1: I say. Yeah, if you're you know, not so nicely said,

1792
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 1: you got to go, it's time to go. But I

1793
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,679
Speaker 1: listened to the first episode of the podcast with Jillian Barbary,

1794
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 1: obviously a legend here in the LA area, and you know,

1795
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: she had a lot of nationwide stuff as well. So

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01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 1: creating a podcast, I know a lot of people this

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01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 1: this is the beauty.

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01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 2: Of the world we live in.

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01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 1: And you were in the news business for a very

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01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 1: long time, big cameras, reel to real I think film

1801
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 1: was probably a little bit before your time. But you

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01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 1: know we started with like like I'm.

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01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 5: Not that old.

1804
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 1: I know you're not at all, but I remember like

1805
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 1: when even when I started, like in high school, it

1806
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 1: was like tape to tape, right, I mean that was

1807
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 1: a reality. Now everything is digital. Everything is something that

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01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 1: you can do on your own at home, and that's

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01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: kind of what you're using to your advantage at this point,

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01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:30,679
Speaker 1: is things like I call off the shelf tech like AI,

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01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 1: the stuff to make your podcast, the stuff to make

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01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:36,720
Speaker 1: the newsletter, So how do you navigate all that.

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01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 12: I definitely could not have done this without the help

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01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 12: of technology. I did a podcast while I was at

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01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,719
Speaker 12: Kitchile for a few years, but I had I literally

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01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 12: I would book the guest and I would record it

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01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 12: and then somebody else would handle everything else. But this

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01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 12: I really did all on my own, and I definitely

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01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 12: could not have done it at the three biggest things

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01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:01,679
Speaker 12: I used or Chat, gbating, Canva and Riverside dot fm.

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01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:05,600
Speaker 12: And Chat actually helped me refine my concept, help me.

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01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 12: We built my graphics on Chat and then we use

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01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 12: Canva to refine them and to do different variations of

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01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 12: the of the graphics. So it's interesting to see that

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01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 12: whole process too, just learning that and it's I mean

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01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 12: I use it every day now, both of them every day.

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01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 12: It's it is remarkable. And then Riverside dot Fm. I

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01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 12: don't know if it's familiar with it, but it's a

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01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 12: built for podcasters, but it also has an editor built

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01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 12: into it and it's a as you go through the interview,

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01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 12: it's got a rolling scroll of a transcript of the

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01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 12: of the interview. And you can literally highlight a sentence

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01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 12: and hit delete and it's gone, oh wow. Or you

1834
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 12: can copy it, you know, control C, and then you

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01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:51,640
Speaker 12: go to another spot and you go Caroll B and

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01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 12: insert it. Editing could not be more easier. It is

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01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 12: remarkable how easy it was.

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01:33:57,160 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 1: So you're almost editing with like the words, like the transcript.

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01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 12: Right, you're you're falling along with the transcript, and you

1840
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 12: can just and you can search for keywords if you're

1841
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 12: looking for, you know, trying to remember where something is

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01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 12: on an hour long interview.

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01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 5: It's remarkable I can.

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01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 12: And they're lightly edited anyway, It's not like we're doing

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01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 12: a big production here, but it's.

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01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 5: So it's lightly edited, but I can edit it an

1847
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:20,040
Speaker 5: hour show in an hour and a half, two hours.

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01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 5: It's remarkable.

1849
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 12: How and I'm not that I mean actually my first

1850
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 12: job was an editor, but to your point, it was

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01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 12: a tape to tape editor, endpoint, out point, move on

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01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 12: to the next record, onto the to the next tape.

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01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:36,879
Speaker 5: So it's the last time I actually edit anything was back.

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01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:40,599
Speaker 1: In the But it's a testament. It's it's amazing, just again,

1855
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 1: how anyone can do this. And I think about this

1856
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 1: with the news business a lot like you think about

1857
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 1: like I'm in a studio right now, that's you know,

1858
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 1: it's equipped, it's got a lot of very high end

1859
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 1: equipment in it. But at the same time, people are

1860
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 1: just starting things up in their house and it you

1861
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 1: know that you can reach an audience now and it

1862
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 1: used to be that sort of gatekeeper was there where

1863
01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 1: you you couldn't. Just like you published your new your

1864
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 1: podcast and it's on all the major platforms instantly, and

1865
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's pretty incredible. So we had a caller

1866
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 1: earlier that said, you know, they're a little weary about

1867
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 1: AI and chat GBT and things like that, but here

1868
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 1: you are sort of like embracing it.

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01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you.

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01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 12: Think you have to You have to embrace it because

1871
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 12: it's just it's it's here, and I think.

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01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 5: You need to learn to use it.

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01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:27,760
Speaker 12: And I I mean, not maybe aul naive, but open AI.

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01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 12: I kind of trust a little more than because it's

1875
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,959
Speaker 12: you know, it's not not for it's not a nonprofit,

1876
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 12: but it's a in the public good corporation. So I

1877
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 12: feel like they're kind of doing the right thing. Maybe

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01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 12: some of the others I will be a little more

1879
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 12: leery about because you you can't help but share personal

1880
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 12: information with it, because you're having these conversations and you're

1881
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 12: having this back and forth dialogue and they get to

1882
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 12: know you.

1883
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 5: And I actually even said, I'm like.

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01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 12: You use too many adjectives, that I stopped using so

1885
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 12: many adjectives and in the and when they would refine

1886
01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 12: a script, so it definitely gets to know you.

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01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we sort of build a relationship with these AI chatbots,

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01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 1: and especially with chat Gibt, which is you know, they

1889
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 1: turned on the memory sort of. It used to be like, hey,

1890
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 1: remember to do this or remember that. Now the memory

1891
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 1: is sort of by default, it just remembers everything. And

1892
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 1: it's uncanny how much it sort of builds this profile

1893
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:20,640
Speaker 1: of who you are, what you like, the answers that

1894
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:23,639
Speaker 1: you like. And sometimes it's way too glowing, right. It's

1895
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 1: like people joke like you can say anything and like hey,

1896
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to go, you know, spray paint my own car,

1897
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:31,759
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, that's a great idea.

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01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 2: Here's the spray paint you should use.

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01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's like these things sometimes they're a little

1900
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 1: bit too like glowing.

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01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so you've got the pot actually that I.

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01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 12: Actually ask it not and I call it or I asked,

1903
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 12: what's your name and they told me to tell they

1904
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 12: call me whatever you want.

1905
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 5: And I'm like, no, you tell me your name. So

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01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 5: they her name is Quinn.

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01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,440
Speaker 1: It came up with a name. Yeah, okay, that's interesting.

1908
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 1: I was trying to I was testing a site the

1909
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: other day, like one of those like fishing websites. I

1910
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 1: post these to my Instagram like how people get phished,

1911
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, just give me like some

1912
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 1: information so I can test this site, like a give

1913
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:09,599
Speaker 1: me a fake name everything. It was like, I can't

1914
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 1: do that. But then you like prompt me. I'm like,

1915
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm just testing. It's not for real. It's like, okay, well,

1916
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 1: if I was giving you information, here's what it would be.

1917
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, thank you, that's what I needed.

1918
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 4: But I did.

1919
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 5: I'm like, please, don't be a suck a fan.

1920
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 12: Please challenge me if I have a bad idea, let

1921
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 12: me know if it's a bad idea.

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01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's smart. Nobody did that to you and you

1923
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 2: were executive.

1924
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 5: Huh, well, I asked people to do that too.

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01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 1: I because I mean, everyone's surrounded by you know, yes

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01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 1: folks most of the time and that's that's what keeps

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Speaker 1: I feel like people need that sort of check, Like

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Speaker 1: with that in mind, I've come up with a huge

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Speaker 1: list of things that can make your podcast better.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 2: No, I thought the first episode was great.

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Speaker 1: So, and of course Jillian's story is easy, because I mean,

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Speaker 1: that it's just the curiosity is there.

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Speaker 5: She's no holds bar.

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Speaker 12: She lays it all on the table, from leaving Good

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Speaker 12: to LA to her fight with cancer and then I

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Speaker 12: didn't even know this or her battle with the irs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the worst thing.

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Speaker 5: So it's it's remarkable.

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Speaker 12: But there are other really great stories too, about people

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Speaker 12: who really have reinvented themselves.

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Speaker 5: The second episode is about a guy who was.

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Speaker 12: An anchor in Phoenix and quit and created an art

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Speaker 12: trauma program and it's now being used in the Arizona

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, so you said you use chat Gibt said,

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Speaker 1: you use the canva The river Side what about the newsletter?

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Speaker 1: Tell me about like, how are you doing that? Because

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Speaker 1: I have a newsletter. I love it. I think a

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Speaker 1: newsletter is like the most incredible thing. But of course

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Speaker 1: now everyone's sort of the newsletters like the new podcast, right,

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Speaker 1: everyone has a newsletter in addition to the podcast. But

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Speaker 1: tell me how you're doing the newsletter.

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Speaker 12: Okay, so the newsletter is focused on Palm's Rings, but

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Speaker 12: it's for people who visit at Palm Springs are also locals,

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Speaker 12: And I use chat GBT two to help refine and

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Speaker 12: flesh out ideas on that.

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Speaker 5: But I use a I know you use substack, right,

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Speaker 5: I use behive. It's b e e hii V and

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Speaker 5: it's it's more yours is more for subscribers.

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Speaker 12: general audience and maybe from some advertisers at some point.

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Speaker 5: But it's pretty cut and dry.

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Speaker 12: I mean, you just I create it, and I create it,

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Speaker 12: then I run it through Chat, and then I bring

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Speaker 12: then you upload it and post.

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Speaker 5: It and then it's it's easy. It's really ea easy.

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Speaker 12: It'll be interesting to see how the ad component because

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Speaker 12: now I have almost seventy five hundred subscribers. Oh wow,

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Speaker 12: So it'll be interesting to see if I can monetize that.

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Speaker 5: And that's the other thing that.

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Speaker 12: lot of journalists. I don't know why, but we were

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Speaker 12: a little afraid to we're selling out if you monetize

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Speaker 12: or try to make money, and that's ridiculous. Needed lean

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Speaker 12: into that, lean into that and figure out a way

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Speaker 12: to make money, and they're I think they're it's that's

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Speaker 12: the part. I'm interested now to figure that part out

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Speaker 12: and see how you actually can or if you can

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Speaker 12: make money out of it.

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Speaker 1: Well, with something that's hyper local like a newsletter, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's to reach people these days is tougher and tougher

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Speaker 1: because our attention is everywhere, and so I think that's

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Speaker 1: why so many people are turning to like these things

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Speaker 1: where it's like super local or hyper local or customized

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Speaker 1: for them, where people they trust what you're saying in

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Speaker 1: the Palm Springs newsletter. Okay, so we got to run,

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Speaker 1: But tell me your advice for folks. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: know you've done all this stuff, you reinvented yourself. Is

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Speaker 1: it scary? Is there is there still life after what

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Speaker 1: you thought life was going to be?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely do it.

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Speaker 12: It's scary and challenging, but I feel like I've learned

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Speaker 12: more in the last month and a half and worked

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Speaker 12: harder in the last month and a half than I

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Speaker 12: haven't a long time. But it's been super rewarding. I'm

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Speaker 12: in bed by nine o'clock and out like a light,

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Speaker 12: but up ready to go five thirty the next More so.

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Speaker 5: It's it's been invigerab But do it.

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Speaker 12: But do your research, lean on your resources. You know,

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Speaker 12: email people, ask questions. You have a problem, you can't

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Speaker 12: figure something out, ask people, ask, and get in the Facebook.

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Speaker 12: There's a face group for everything. Find the one that

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Speaker 12: you need and they'll they'll they will help you. It

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Speaker 12: is remarkable. The other thing I really learned about, too

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Speaker 12: Rich is I don't really miss the news. I don't

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Speaker 12: miss the craziness of that. I miss news people. So

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Speaker 12: this has given me an opportunity to kind of reconnect

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Speaker 12: with that and even just not even just the people

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Speaker 12: I've interview, but like talking to you today, and and

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Speaker 12: also like just the comments from social It's been a

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Speaker 12: remarkable but great experience so far.

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Speaker 1: All right, the podcast is Life After News. Subscribe check

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Speaker 1: it out. Jason Ball, thanks so much for joining me today.

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Speaker 5: Thank you appreciate the good work.

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we're gonna open up the feedback.

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Speaker 1: It is overflowing this week. We'll get through that right

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Speaker 1: here on rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich Demro here hanging out with you, talking technology. The

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Speaker 1: website for the show richon Tech dot tv links to

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Speaker 1: everything I mentioned on the website. Just go there and

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Speaker 1: just check for the show notes. It's under the headline

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Speaker 1: radio show. This is episode one two. I put all

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Speaker 1: the links to everything I mentioned. So if you're trying

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Speaker 1: to get a link for Jason Balls podcast, the guest

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Speaker 1: we just had on Life After News or a link,

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Speaker 1: it is right there and everything I talk about. All right,

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Speaker 1: Before we get to the feedback, couple of items of note,

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Speaker 1: This was a great article from Let's see was it

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Speaker 1: a fast Company? Four free Coursera classes if you want

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Speaker 1: to learn more about AI, sort of dovetails into what

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Speaker 1: we were talking about before. There's one called AI for Everyone,

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Speaker 1: perfect for beginners, takes about six hours. Then you've got

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Speaker 1: Google AI Essentials AI productivity, tools, prompting and ethical use.

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Speaker 1: That's also six hours intro to Artificial Intelligence by IBM.

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Speaker 1: That's a little bit more in depth with videos, labs

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Speaker 1: and twelve hours of content intro to Generative AI, a

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Speaker 1: quick course on the type of AI behind chatbots, image

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Speaker 1: generators and more, chat GPT, generative pre trained Transformer so

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Speaker 1: you can learn all about that. All courses are self paced,

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Speaker 1: free to audit, and designed to be accessible. So if

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Speaker 1: you're just curious about all this stuff, great, great courses

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Speaker 1: for free on course Sera. Again, I'll put a link

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Speaker 1: to that on the website. You can finally ditch apples

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Speaker 1: Translate app on the iPhone and switch to Google Translate

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Speaker 1: by default, so the feature is available in iOS eighteen

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Speaker 1: point four. Apple has slowly but surely giving us the

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Speaker 1: ability to change the default app options on the iPhone.

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Speaker 1: Used to be Apple's way or the highway. Now you

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Speaker 1: can change almost all of them except for the mapping app.

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Speaker 1: I believe if you want to change your translation app,

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Speaker 1: settings apps default apps translate, So if you go to settings,

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Speaker 1: let me see which ones you can change. At this point,

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Speaker 1: Settings settings, let's see apps. So we go to apps

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Speaker 1: all the way at the bottom and then at the

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Speaker 1: top says default apps. So right now you can change

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Speaker 1: your email app, your messaging app, your calling app, your

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Speaker 1: call filtering app, your browser app, your translation app, passwords app,

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Speaker 1: contactless app, and your keyboards. That is incredible. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what a change. Now.

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Speaker 2: Apple did not want to make this change. Don't get

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Speaker 2: me wrong.

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Speaker 1: This was not out of Apple's generosity and kindness. This

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Speaker 1: was because of the EU. They said, you got to

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Speaker 1: give people an option on these things, and they did,

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Speaker 1: and so they are sort of doing this for the EU,

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Speaker 1: but everyone gets to benefit. So anyway, if you want

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Speaker 1: to change from Apple to Google Translate, just install it

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Speaker 1: on there and then you can switch it. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's see here. Doctor Stephen Needle writes in am I

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Speaker 1: laughing at that? What is the website you mentioned from

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Speaker 1: your trip to New York that you used to find

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Speaker 1: restaurants aside from Yelp? I don't remember if I set

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Speaker 1: a specific website. Maybe it was the infatuation. I do

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Speaker 1: like that, but I would say you can use AI

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Speaker 1: search to do this now. I did use chat ebt,

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Speaker 1: I have used the Google AI mode. You can say, like,

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Speaker 1: what are the notable restaurant openings in New York City

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Speaker 1: or the easiest way that I pick my restaurant is

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Speaker 1: I literally go to maps dot Google dot com. You

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Speaker 1: have to do this on a desktop computer, search for

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Speaker 1: your hotel. So let's say you're saying at the High

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Speaker 1: New York City Okay Times or a Hiatt and Times Square,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is. Let's just find Okay Highatt Centric Times Square.

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Speaker 1: Then you click that, and then once you have that,

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Speaker 1: you should be able to see on the website. On

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Speaker 1: Google Maps, it will have uh oh, my Google phone

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Speaker 1: is there will be an option to actually look at

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Speaker 1: places that are walking distance and you just filter by

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Speaker 1: restaurants fifteen minute walking distance and boom, just find a

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Speaker 1: place that's highly rateed near you. It always works. That's

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Speaker 1: the way I've been doing it. Grace from Woodland Hills

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Speaker 1: writes in I feel funny sending a compliment to a stranger,

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Speaker 1: but I want to let you know I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: I saw your segment on What Not on April twenty

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Speaker 1: first to twenty twenty five, and it changed my life.

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Speaker 1: I found such interesting people to watch. I now follow

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Speaker 1: three shows consistently, and I'm fascinated by how these sellers

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Speaker 1: use technology in innovative ways. My Google phone is going

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Speaker 1: off in the corner there. It's like it's just continuing

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Speaker 1: to chat. Gail from Los Angeles writes in, I missed

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Speaker 1: the name and author of the AI book you featured.

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Speaker 1: I was doing Saturday chores and didn't have anything handy

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Speaker 1: to write it down. I loved what he said about

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Speaker 1: hold on, I gotta hold on. Uh okay, sorry, I

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Speaker 1: never had to do that in the history of this

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Speaker 1: show ever.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not kiddus. This is wild. This thing just

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Speaker 2: kept going on and on. Okay.

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Speaker 1: The book was super transforming how we live, learn, and

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Speaker 1: work in the age of intelligence. Steve Fisher was the author.

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Speaker 1: You said a minute, Oh my gosh, okay, this I

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Speaker 1: wanted again, And Michelle says, I've got an app. I

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Speaker 1: want to share a helpful app I came across from

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Speaker 1: my doctor's appointment for my ninety five five year old mom.

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Speaker 2: It's called Ava Ava.

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Speaker 1: It displays spoken words as live captions on a phone,

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Speaker 1: perfect for the elderly or anyone who's hard of hearing.

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Speaker 1: Ava app, Ava app. That's a great app. I did

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Speaker 1: download it to check it out.

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Speaker 2: Rod from La.

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Speaker 1: Writes in, I listened to your show Saturdays here in

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Speaker 1: La on KFI. Wonderful show. Caroline says, thanks for your expertise.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate your segments. And Rick says you have

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Speaker 1: a great gift of explaining fixes in plain English.

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Speaker 2: Keep it up.

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Speaker 1: I never miss a show that's going.

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Speaker 3: To do it.

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Speaker 1: Next week we're going to talk about Apple in China,

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Speaker 1: all things Microsoft. Thank you so much for listening. My

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Speaker 1: name is rich Dumiro. I'll talk to you real soon.