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Speaker 2: we didn't get much defense tonight, Ojo, we had a
Speaker 2: very entertaining game. If you like offense, if you like points,
Speaker 2: this was the game for your liking. Both quarterbacks played
Speaker 2: out standing. Jordan Loved thirty one to forty three, three
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty seven passing yard, three touchdowns, clean game,
Speaker 2: zero interceptions, one sack. Dak Prescott thirty of forty three
Speaker 2: nineteen three touchdowns, no interceptions, one sack, clean game. Green
Speaker 2: Bay rush the ball thirty five times for a buck
Speaker 2: sixty four. The Cowboys rush the ball twenty six times
Speaker 2: for buck seventeen. If you like if you like offense,
Speaker 2: this was the game for you. If you wanted to
Speaker 2: see some defense, I'm sorry you'll have to wait the
Speaker 2: next week the very interesting ball game.
Speaker 1: I don't really have a lot to complain about.
Speaker 2: The only thing I will question, Ojo, Yes, Sir Matt Lafleur,
Speaker 2: right before the half, Oh, the last two possessions before
Speaker 2: before the half. Oh, Joe, you struggled offensively. Now if
Speaker 2: you reverse it, you struggle your first two drives. Now
Speaker 2: your last three drives, you.
Speaker 1: Do what you did.
Speaker 2: I agree with him going for it, but after you struggle,
Speaker 2: you don't do that. But other than that, I got
Speaker 2: no qualms of what happened tonight. What did you like
Speaker 2: about what you saw and what you didn't like?
Speaker 3: Hey, Honestly, when the game started, it was a doozy.
Speaker 3: I thought it was gonna be bloring. I thought it
Speaker 3: was going to be a blowout. Uncle, it was twelve two.
Speaker 3: I think I will have twelve thirteen. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: something like that. I'm like, well, listen, when the Packern
Speaker 3: got the ball again on that third officer series, I said,
Speaker 3: if they go up again and get to get to twenty,
Speaker 3: I'm going to bed and take me in nap, because
Speaker 3: there's no way, I'm being honest, it's no way the
Speaker 3: Cowboys are gonna be able to come back. Especially I
Speaker 3: think it was the first quarter they had what sixty
Speaker 3: yards of offense something like that. But obviously it turns
Speaker 3: out to be a very good game, a very entertaining game.
Speaker 3: From the end of the second quarter on into the
Speaker 3: third and fourth and listen, Romeo Dobbs, he had this
Speaker 3: coming out part of the night he had. If we
Speaker 3: didn't know who quarter who was receiver number one was
Speaker 3: for the Packers, we know now. Romeo Dobbs showed out
Speaker 3: the night and played one hell of a game. That
Speaker 3: Deak Press. God, damn, why am I talking so fast?
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott played a phenomenal game.
Speaker 1: George Pickens.
Speaker 3: George Piggins looked very good to night, made some really
Speaker 3: clutch plays, some dope stuff, showing what he can do
Speaker 3: with the ball if you put in his hands. He
Speaker 3: doesn't always have to be a deep ball. He has
Speaker 3: that ability to have that that yack as well. Outside
Speaker 3: of that, man, they ran the boat. Teams ran the
Speaker 3: ball well. They were. They were well balanced with the
Speaker 3: run and the pass. And I enjoyed it. I hope
Speaker 3: John Jenkins was okay, though. I hope he's okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope you guys put took my little my
Speaker 2: little thing I did today. You see what I did?
Speaker 2: You know, I told Michael don't get a sack. I said,
Speaker 2: uh uh. Indiana Jones wasn't gonna throw for two touchdowns
Speaker 2: with mother pick. Yeah, Jayalen Hurt is gonna have more
Speaker 2: than the Yard. I knew that, you know, easy, that
Speaker 2: was the only thing. O Yo, I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I mean, look Cowboys, I mean both teams. You laughed
Speaker 2: at me when I said, oh, Joe, I'm not so sure.
Speaker 2: I mean, I like the audition for the Michael going
Speaker 2: to the Packers. But I asked, I said, oh, Joe,
Speaker 2: are you sure they're better than the Rams? Yeah, they're
Speaker 2: better than the Rams? Are you I'm gonna ask you
Speaker 2: again on Joe, are you sure?
Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't remember you asking me about
Speaker 3: them being better than the Rams?
Speaker 2: Yes, because I said I would say the Eagles, and
Speaker 2: I say I would put the Rams in front of
Speaker 2: the Packers. And you said no, no, no, And so
Speaker 2: I asked again, I'm gonna ask you one more time.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm letnna get this now. If we if we're
Speaker 3: doing in comparison now offensively, it's it's a tass. I
Speaker 3: can go either way. Now, if we're gonna if we're
Speaker 3: gonna go from a defensive standpoint.
Speaker 1: And you gotta go from a team standpoint.
Speaker 3: Well then now I would go at the Ram because defensively,
Speaker 3: they're a little better.
Speaker 1: Okay, that was a little better.
Speaker 2: If they've been together, it's gonna take Michael some time
Speaker 2: to get worked in. Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm looking
Speaker 2: at both defenses. Yeah, if i'm defensive coordinators, I will
Speaker 2: watch the tape, but I'm not gonna show it to
Speaker 2: the team, because what am I gonna show with you?
Speaker 1: I mean, Reddy, what am I gonna show?
Speaker 2: I think the guy go thirty one or forty three
Speaker 2: three thirty seven, three touchdowns, zero interceptions. I lit the
Speaker 2: know they guy to go thirty one and forty three
Speaker 2: nineteen three touchdowns, zero interceptions. What am I showing? I'm trying,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at I'm looking at Hobbs. I think he's
Speaker 2: number twenty one for the Packers. Oh Joe, he damn
Speaker 2: near Backpenyer, like the end zone. You do realize if
Speaker 2: you loud of guy to catch the ball in the
Speaker 2: end zone and you tackle him, it's still a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, how far are you gonna back up? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't keep backing up.
Speaker 2: You're in the Oh Joe, he has to understand where
Speaker 2: he is on the field. You take two steps, that's it.
Speaker 2: I'm not backing up anymore. Now, you gotta come through me.
Speaker 3: If anything, you shouldn't move at all.
Speaker 1: If I'm put your heels on the go now, I'm
Speaker 1: not giving that up.
Speaker 2: Because he had just got out flanked because they ran
Speaker 2: a switch and he had outside leverage and they got
Speaker 2: him on the outside.
Speaker 1: So I said, okay, fine, you had outside leverage. I
Speaker 1: give him that.
Speaker 2: But you can't let a tight end run the bull
Speaker 2: that bull dyve slant route and you keep backing up
Speaker 2: in you a corner corners that let tight let if
Speaker 2: that's ah, if that's killed, or if that's one of
Speaker 2: these upper restaurants. And I'm not saying I like Ferguson,
Speaker 2: I've liked him since he's gotten there. But corners, you
Speaker 2: let tight ends beat you on slant rise in the
Speaker 2: gold line. You ain't gonna be in the league long.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: You be bouncing around that can't happen. That can't happen.
Speaker 2: But other than that or you, like I said, I
Speaker 2: don't know where we go. I mean, I love George boy,
Speaker 2: he cut that thing raise and think, oh yo, what
Speaker 2: the hell was he thinking?
Speaker 3: You You just kicked that last play at the end
Speaker 3: of the game. Yes, Hey, that that clock management almost
Speaker 3: hurt him. Now they almost lost that game based on
Speaker 3: the clock management. He was trying to get everybody to
Speaker 3: the line. Obviously it worked out.
Speaker 1: All you do? Why would you attempt to pass in
Speaker 1: that situation?
Speaker 3: And what happened if they had scored that touchdown on
Speaker 3: then what what happened if they got that pick?
Speaker 1: Then what?
Speaker 3: Okay, well listen, that's a chance they listen, that's a chance.
Speaker 1: That the point time they was already playing for the
Speaker 1: field goal. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I'm taking much time up the clock if
Speaker 2: I possibly can. Cowboys had their possession, We've got our possession.
Speaker 2: We don't want to give them the ball back with
Speaker 2: any time on the clock. Okay, I get all of that,
Speaker 2: But he has to be smarter. You see the col
Speaker 2: late like, bro, what what.
Speaker 1: You do with Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean I think he was trying to trying to plan.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to play hero ball. We know if we
Speaker 3: get a field goal, the game ends in the tie.
Speaker 3: I'm going to take one more shot and try to
Speaker 3: leave a second maybe two on o'clock and see if
Speaker 3: we can kick a field goal to win it.
Speaker 2: If I didn't know better, I swear that guy had
Speaker 2: some times the Green Bay, that clock guy because but
Speaker 2: that was the longest there, Like, hey, uh, I mean
Speaker 2: you know, let's say Jordan Love lost the fumble, so
Speaker 2: uh eleven tackles kway Walker. I just out yall, honestly,
Speaker 2: I just don't know, right because ebra Flus the defensive
Speaker 2: coordinator for the Cowboys. He doesn't like to bring pressure.
Speaker 2: And I just don't know if how, I don't know
Speaker 2: how you survive in today's game if you let the
Speaker 2: guy just sit back there and pack the ball.
Speaker 3: And this this is the funny thing they playing. They
Speaker 3: they got four, they only bringing four. They're not litting nobody.
Speaker 3: They play zone. And when you play a team like
Speaker 3: the Packers and you run that zone and not getting
Speaker 3: no pressure, it just stretches everything out. Your defensively stretches
Speaker 3: everything out, and the holes as big as hell. Yep,
Speaker 3: and all the players got to do. You can go
Speaker 3: right down the field and just pick him apart. Jordan
Speaker 3: Love can be surgical, which he was to night. He
Speaker 3: were surgical because you're not getting enough pressure to get
Speaker 3: goddamn Jordan Love office spot Russian throws or whatever you
Speaker 3: need to do to throw the time into the offense
Speaker 3: off and that's what happened. Somebody got add some pressure.
Speaker 3: I was hoping that Daveon Clowney made some type of
Speaker 3: impact to night. He really wasn't as effective as you
Speaker 3: like him to be, h But but listen, it was.
Speaker 3: It was a great game if you like offense, if
Speaker 3: you have as far as defense is, as far as
Speaker 3: defense goes, that that that it was a no show tonight.
Speaker 2: This is the best. I mean, look, the Cowboys could
Speaker 2: ill afford to lose this game. I mean tides look
Speaker 2: tides like kissing a beautiful woman through a screen, ain't right?
Speaker 1: Really nothing going on on, Yoe.
Speaker 2: You can just say that was a beautiful woman on
Speaker 2: the other side, but did you really touch it?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 1: Is he real? Or was that ai?
Speaker 3: No moral victories?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so in a situation, it's not a loss. So
Speaker 1: all things being equal, I'd rather be.
Speaker 2: One, two and one as opposed to one and three.
Speaker 2: Let's be let's be real, uh, and we'll see where
Speaker 2: it comes down. Hey, that time might come in and
Speaker 2: it might help you down the road.
Speaker 1: But you couldn't. You couldn't.
Speaker 2: You couldn't go down. You couldn't be one and three
Speaker 2: and the Eagles are four and oh.
Speaker 3: The four. Hey, I can't wait till we get that game.
Speaker 3: But go ahead, God damn.
Speaker 2: Uh but you know, look the Cowboy George Picking showed why.
Speaker 1: Uh Tobert made a heck of play. I thought that
Speaker 1: he was trying to throw the ball out.
Speaker 3: I thought he was trying to throw the ball the
Speaker 3: way to.
Speaker 2: Yep, and somehow Tobert came down with it. Uh Turpin
Speaker 2: made a couple of plays. I mean, look, they got guys,
Speaker 2: uh Leinoy, he stepped up and made some plays. I mean,
Speaker 2: the guys stepped up and made plays for the Cowboys tonight.
Speaker 2: And that's what they needed. Offensively, they needed guys to
Speaker 2: step up being out, They needed everybody to step up.
Speaker 2: George Pickens, you need you show us why you want
Speaker 2: thirty plus million dollars a year to be for a receiver.
Speaker 2: Show us why he showed you eight four buck thirty
Speaker 2: four two touchdowns on eleven targets. Jayalen Tobert with a
Speaker 2: high draft pick, he got some opportunities in the situations
Speaker 2: like this. Oh Joe, this is when you get opportunities
Speaker 2: in this moment. This is where you show coch Man
Speaker 2: we can count on him. Yeah, I believe they always
Speaker 2: thought they knew they could count on George Pickens because
Speaker 2: of what he's did in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: He just needed to change the scenery.
Speaker 2: He needed to clear the deck, go some place, get
Speaker 2: a fresh start, start all over again. But these other
Speaker 2: guys you see Tobert, you see Turping, you see Illinois,
Speaker 2: those guys stepping up and making plays.
Speaker 1: Me.
Speaker 2: The only thing I can say with Green Bay, get
Speaker 2: Golden more involved. He got too much speed not to
Speaker 2: be involved. O Joe ain't got too much. He got
Speaker 2: too much speed on't Joe.
Speaker 3: Hey, You got to understand, right, If it's fast as
Speaker 3: he is, as dynamic as he is with speed like that,
Speaker 3: if they felt comfortable putting him in more in positions
Speaker 3: to make more plays, he would they would have him
Speaker 3: doing them. There is something when you have a player
Speaker 3: like that, with that kind of speed, you use them
Speaker 3: so obviously that there might be things that we don't
Speaker 3: know about that we can see where they feel, Okay,
Speaker 3: he's not really good at this, so we're going to
Speaker 3: have him in certain situations doing some of the things
Speaker 3: that we know he's good at. Right, Because Romeo Dobbs
Speaker 3: looks like the guy I thought Golden Golden came in
Speaker 3: to be the number one guy, but yes, eighty seven
Speaker 3: ain't giving up that spot.
Speaker 2: But if you look at Ojo, they really only threw
Speaker 2: the ball to gold only through the ball to Dobs
Speaker 2: up run the goal line. He had three touchdowns and
Speaker 2: then he caught that one with blaand kind of like
Speaker 2: he reached with the wrong hand. But other than that,
Speaker 2: they didn't give him a whole lot of balls in
Speaker 2: the field of play. Most of it like he had
Speaker 2: what three or four catches right there around right around
Speaker 2: the gold lite, and he made the most of those,
Speaker 2: and that's what you want, Like, hey, all things being equal,
Speaker 2: hey give me the tubs. But I think if they
Speaker 2: can get Golden involved, I think he's gonna make this
Speaker 2: offense even more dynamic because he.
Speaker 1: Got speed the birth.
Speaker 2: I was surprised they didn't call that p I because
Speaker 2: nine times out of t n oh Joe on playing
Speaker 2: on that on that rail, that shot of the rail,
Speaker 2: they call that on.
Speaker 3: The left side towards Yeah, the game, Yes, they call that.
Speaker 3: I would hate. I would hate for the refs to
Speaker 3: be the reason on changing the outcome of the game.
Speaker 3: Let the players, Let the players play. That was that
Speaker 3: was like an it was.
Speaker 2: It was you know, I gave you to watch. They're
Speaker 2: gonna come out and say that should have been a flag.
Speaker 2: They gonna you think, But that don't do me no good,
Speaker 2: right right right. I would prefer you not even tell me,
Speaker 2: because now I'm gonna be.
Speaker 3: Mad if if if you if you lost the game,
Speaker 3: if you lost the game, then it's okay. But the
Speaker 3: fact that the game ended in the tie, yes, I'm
Speaker 3: glad they did. They didn't call it because I hate
Speaker 3: when the rest getting the way of changing the outcome
Speaker 3: of game instead of just letting the players play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I thought Jordan Love, I mean, he made
Speaker 2: a couple of players like okay. But other than that,
Speaker 2: I can't be mad at him. I really can't, because
Speaker 2: I mean, he's only in his field theory, and he's
Speaker 2: still there's some things that he can clean up. But
Speaker 2: on that fourth down when he threw that ball to Golden,
Speaker 2: he had some mustard on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had some.
Speaker 2: Steam on it. But I thought he played really, really well.
Speaker 2: I thought Jacob ran the ball hard. He started making
Speaker 2: people miss on a couple of those runs. I was like, damn,
Speaker 2: somebody gonna need some ankle some ankle transplants because he
Speaker 2: tearing people's ankles up left and right.
Speaker 1: Javonte Williams.
Speaker 2: Now you see him another year removed from that ACL surgery,
Speaker 2: He's starting to look like that Carolina Javonte Williams dragging people,
Speaker 2: making people miss.
Speaker 3: Hey, he was toting that rock boy. I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't I don't see any signs of him having an
Speaker 3: ACER injury based on his performance and the way he
Speaker 3: ran the ball to night. Yes, be able to being
Speaker 3: able to cut and jump, stop and all that and
Speaker 3: come into balance and exploding them like well, god damn what.
Speaker 2: I think o Jo had the game not gotten so
Speaker 2: you know, they could have ran him more, but they
Speaker 2: fell behind, and so you know, we want to get Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I think, you know what, I think blocking that
Speaker 2: pat Ojo gave them a life because they were a
Speaker 2: different team after they blocked that Pat than before because
Speaker 2: Green Bay was kind of having their way with them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then they blocked that Pat and got a Joe
Speaker 2: to life and the next thing you know, they're right
Speaker 2: back in the ball game.
Speaker 1: Give the Cowboys a lot of credit.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I don't think they I don't think
Speaker 2: you know, look, this is only four games into the season.
Speaker 2: But the likelihood of you getting to the destination that
Speaker 2: you want to end up at and you start one
Speaker 2: to three isn't very good.
Speaker 1: It's not likely one two and one.
Speaker 2: It still gives you a chance because you still get
Speaker 2: the Eagles, you still got two games against the Giants,
Speaker 2: you got two games against the Commanders, and you have
Speaker 2: another game against the Eagles, and you have your ey conference.
Speaker 2: You're out of conference, you're out of division games. So
Speaker 2: we'll see how that shapes out. Offensively, I think the
Speaker 2: good My concern is defense. Oh Joe, I just don't
Speaker 2: know if giving up forty points so julis at home?
Speaker 1: You give it up forty points at home? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey shit, they gave they gave up forty. Also,
Speaker 3: Godbo gave up forty that first round the playoffs, remember
Speaker 3: a few years ago.
Speaker 1: Now, Oh yeah, well he gave up forty. I think
Speaker 1: they gave up forty eight then.
Speaker 3: But this is the thing, this is the good side
Speaker 3: of things. Not only are you missing cdee Lamb and
Speaker 3: everyone else stepping up and trying to make up for
Speaker 3: the production that CD LAMB would have had, but they
Speaker 3: also scored. Okay, yeah, you gave up forty, but you're
Speaker 3: scoring forty, so offensively you're playing extremely well, and the
Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball just has to find a
Speaker 3: way to catch up. Find a way to catch up,
Speaker 3: find a way to get one or two stops and quarters.
Speaker 3: That would have made a difference in the game.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, but can't.
Speaker 2: I mean there there haven't been very many defenses that
Speaker 2: you can just say, hey, go hunt with four and
Speaker 2: then go attack the quarterback. It's been very few now
Speaker 2: there there, it's been done, but it's been.
Speaker 1: Very few times.
Speaker 2: The Eagles last year could get home with four and
Speaker 2: they would play covering. Fangio does not like the sacrifice
Speaker 2: that back then, and he had those big hogs and
Speaker 2: they could they could collapse the pocket inside with Davis
Speaker 2: and Carter, and then those edge guys were screaming off
Speaker 2: the edge and they was rotating them and they had
Speaker 2: eight they could go eight deep and they just go
Speaker 2: just go, go, go go. But the cow I don't
Speaker 2: see that with the Cowboys. I'm not seeing that. Sam
Speaker 2: Williams came back, he looked good. That had a few
Speaker 2: guys that that that that flashed. But I think in
Speaker 2: order to for the cowboys to play this style of
Speaker 2: defense for your asking a lot for you man, you're
Speaker 2: asking an awful lot for your secondary man, because like
Speaker 2: you said, they're expanding to an area.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just gonna go go sit down in there
Speaker 1: where you.
Speaker 3: Vake every every time and that that folk got to
Speaker 3: get it. But this is, this is the thing you
Speaker 3: got to understand. You have to have the person the
Speaker 3: hell to be able to do it. He's not blissing
Speaker 3: for a reason. Yeah, because he doesn't want he doesn't
Speaker 3: want to expose the back en. Hell, you're only blitting
Speaker 3: for in the back end still exposed.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: You only bring it for I mean, it's uh, but
Speaker 2: that's his style of play. If you look at him
Speaker 2: when he was uh he was the head coach of
Speaker 2: when he was an Indy. Yeah, what do you do that?
Speaker 2: That's the style of play. Yeah, you go watch him
Speaker 2: when he was in Chicago. He's the head coach. Look
Speaker 2: at his style of Now you look at him, this
Speaker 2: is who he is now. On the flip side, you
Speaker 2: go look at Kansas City. Anytime Kansas City, when he
Speaker 2: gets threatened, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: He'll hit you.
Speaker 3: He'll hitt you up I'm coming to get you.
Speaker 1: You come you getting down of here? There are you?
Speaker 3: I'm coming get you. Yeah that's not hey, but but
Speaker 3: honest and honestly, this is what makes bags defense so good. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he has the personnaelity to be able to do and
Speaker 3: execute exactly what he needs you to do. The game
Speaker 3: they had, we'll get to that now. I want to
Speaker 3: go too much into it.
Speaker 2: But uh a forty point time. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to think. Have I I never
Speaker 2: I've never tied the game, so I don't know how
Speaker 2: I would feel. I just know I look, it's kind
Speaker 2: of like playing cards. You know what I'm saying, don't Joe.
Speaker 2: It's like and you get a push. I didn't sit
Speaker 2: down at the blackjack table to push win yeah, so
Speaker 2: I guess I guess it's like pushing you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Hey, I didn't lose no money, but I
Speaker 2: didn't win money.
Speaker 1: I didn't sit down there.
Speaker 2: To say, okay, yeah push push, no bro, I'm trying
Speaker 2: to win something. But I guess in this situation, I
Speaker 2: don't know how to feel. I've never been in this
Speaker 2: situation before. Had you Have you ever had a tie
Speaker 2: game in your career.
Speaker 3: Absolutely not, absolutely not. But listen, if I played for
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, if I played for the Packers, I would
Speaker 3: feel good. I didn't Yeah, I feel good I didn't lose.
Speaker 3: I'd be upset we didn't win the game, but we
Speaker 3: have some great things we have to build off of. Defensively,
Speaker 3: we need to work offensively. They could take the day
Speaker 3: off offense. Y'all would take Monday and Tuesday off defense.
Speaker 3: We'll see y'all here in the film room Monday, Monday night.
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, even on Tuesday, on your off day Tuesday,
Speaker 3: bring your ass in here again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they woo. But that game did some numbers.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can imagine this is probably gonna be
Speaker 2: the highest rated Sunday night game they've had it in
Speaker 2: quite some time.
Speaker 3: Maybe about twenty nine million. Yeah, yeahs the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: It's a closed game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was back and forth in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 2: it goes into overtime, so yeah, it's it peaked.
Speaker 1: I'll agree with you. Oh yo, I'm saved twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2: But the Green Bay Packers and the Dallas Cowboys, they
Speaker 2: needed what seventy minutes and they still couldn't determine the
Speaker 2: winner a tie forty forty. Jordan Love was thirty one
Speaker 2: and forty three three thirty seven and three touchdowns no interceptions.
Speaker 2: Dak Preps got thirty one and forty three nineteen three
Speaker 2: touchdowns no interceptions. I mean you look at it, five
Speaker 2: hundred yards for the about almost five hundred yards.
Speaker 1: Of offense for the Packers.
Speaker 2: Ye, a little over four hundred for the Cowboys, but
Speaker 2: they played to a forty forty tie. And onward and upward.
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford found two two act well wide open. He
Speaker 2: go ahead touchdown passed with less than two minutes form
Speaker 2: the maining to send the Rams to a twenty twenty seven,
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty win over the Coats. That so
Speaker 2: far the Coats made so many mistakes. Oh Joe one
Speaker 2: played before the go ahead touchdown, the Coats only had
Speaker 2: ten men on the field. Then they had a holding
Speaker 2: pendal in the gate at the fifty eight fifty three
Speaker 2: yard touchdown run by Jonathan Taylor, and also the a
Speaker 2: seventy six yard touchdown reception that turned into a touch
Speaker 2: back and ad Mitchell fumble the ball as he crossed
Speaker 2: the gold line. So look, it's no consolation. You know,
Speaker 2: if I meant that, look at a game like, Bro,
Speaker 2: we gave up a touchdown with ten players on the field,
Speaker 2: We had a holding pillar and they get a touchdown.
Speaker 1: We had another touchdown. Bro. The Coast culture better than
Speaker 1: we think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the That's the only way I
Speaker 2: look at it, O Joe.
Speaker 1: The Colts are better than we thought.
Speaker 3: Did you see that that fifty three yard run by
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor? They got called back man boy. Buddy is
Speaker 3: nice boy. Yeah, he is the real deal.
Speaker 2: We didn't talk about it last year, oh Joe, because
Speaker 2: Kwan and Derrick Henry was But yeah.
Speaker 1: But if you go back and look at his numbers,
Speaker 1: he's a probo.
Speaker 2: He a Pro Bowl. He's a pro Bowler. He's been
Speaker 2: in All Pro. There's a reason why. Uh, Matthew Stafford
Speaker 2: was twenty nine or forty one, three seventy five, three touchdowns, zero.
Speaker 3: Picks, Hey a roll off them. Pooka and the coup
Speaker 3: numbers real quick.
Speaker 2: Pooka had thirteen catchers for a bucks seventy a touchdown
Speaker 2: on fifteen targets two to two, had one for eighty
Speaker 2: eight on two targets. Davonte Adams four for fifty six
Speaker 2: a touchdown on six targets.
Speaker 3: I mean, thirteen for one seventy. They won the game.
Speaker 3: AJ Brown one for seven yards.
Speaker 1: They said, look, we won the game. Poker had thirteen
Speaker 1: for one seventy.
Speaker 2: Now what at the end of the day, what did
Speaker 2: Philly and the Rams both do win?
Speaker 1: I get it, Hey, you preach it to the choir.
Speaker 2: I ain't absolutely one thousand percent understand AJ's frustration, but
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you you're not gonna convince the because
Speaker 2: the fans want to win. They're not concerned about a J.
Speaker 2: Brown Sta you know that. I know that, And the
Speaker 2: team's not concerned. Yep, shit, all right, they're not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. Hey, hey, hey, get late, get.
Speaker 1: Out of there yet we cut up the coats.
Speaker 2: Pooka had thirteen four bucks seventy further leading his lead
Speaker 2: NFL league in both categories.
Speaker 1: Hey, he's gonna mess right, A how many catches he got? Now?
Speaker 3: Forty forty two?
Speaker 1: You're mess right? He mess right to go get one
Speaker 1: fifty one sixty?
Speaker 3: How many is it? How many got forty two?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, something like that.
Speaker 1: I was gonna touch down to tynle score today.
Speaker 2: He became the second player in NFL history to have
Speaker 2: forty receptions for five hundred yards in his team's first
Speaker 2: war games.
Speaker 3: That's crap. Do you hear what you just said? Forty
Speaker 3: receptions in four games? Mm hmm, my god, bro.
Speaker 2: All they did is do what they did. You remember
Speaker 2: when Cooper Cup had that historic season. Yeah, insert Pooka.
Speaker 3: N the cool cool exactly Yeah, same same place, same everything.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: And he had somebody on the other side that that
Speaker 2: can open it up. Because remember when they brought Odell
Speaker 2: in there. Odell was still could make you pay if
Speaker 2: you singing him. Davonte can make you pay.
Speaker 3: So he gets He made him pay last week, He
Speaker 3: made him pay the week before that, and they made
Speaker 3: sure this game. Okay, Davante going crazy right now, Let's
Speaker 3: get our young bull back where he's supposed to be.
Speaker 3: It's funny. It's funny how that works. You see how
Speaker 3: they can make a a constant effort to get who
Speaker 3: they want the ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the thing that when we start
Speaker 2: talking about all the receivers, we leave Pookah out of
Speaker 2: the equation.
Speaker 1: Poko is in the mix.
Speaker 2: Now I'm not saying I'm taking him over a Jetta
Speaker 2: or chase. But there ain't a whole lot of other
Speaker 2: receivers I'm taking in front of him because he's physical. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he does it. See, I like guys do nasty work
Speaker 2: on everybody. Everybody want to catch the gold ball on
Speaker 2: your Everybody want to catch the polls and catch the
Speaker 2: nine route. But what about the what about the guy
Speaker 2: that's gonna catch that under What about the guy that's
Speaker 2: gonna catch that three slaps, three steps, three steps slat?
Speaker 2: What about the guy that's gonna catch that Hey, gonna
Speaker 2: catch that bubble screen or that jail break.
Speaker 1: That's gonna get tattooed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he do it all.
Speaker 1: Now, Hey that we can run the jet sweep with.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: We Hey, y'all better start giving Pook and giving Pooky
Speaker 2: his credit. Hey, I know it's he's not convintional. He
Speaker 2: don't look like the guys that we think of the right.
Speaker 2: But a he'dne earned the stripes.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: He came in as a rookie and did what he did,
Speaker 2: and he backed it up, and he's backing it up again,
Speaker 2: and they would have.
Speaker 1: To back the truck up.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, oh Joe.
Speaker 2: The first game of the day The Steelers beat the
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings over in Ireland by the score of twenty
Speaker 2: four to twenty one. The Steelers defense put together his
Speaker 2: best show another season, collecting six sacks ten tackles for
Speaker 2: loss against Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: With the third guard interception, t J.
Speaker 2: Watt became one of seven players with at least one
Speaker 2: hundred sacks and eight career interceptions.
Speaker 1: The other six are in the Hall of Fame. LT.
Speaker 2: Richard Dent, Chris Doeman, Rested Soul, Jason Taylor's Pep, Julius Peppers,
Speaker 2: and Ricky Jack. That's some very very elite company that
Speaker 2: mister Watt five himself in.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, boy, you see Aaron, you see Aaron Rodgerson. God
Speaker 3: damn DK today I did. Oh, it's funny that got
Speaker 3: ay boyd Hey that God damn that look that skinny
Speaker 3: poost and he threw that thing right off the eel.
Speaker 3: Yeah your back, yep, and that safety took a bad angle, man, DK, say, man,
Speaker 3: stop playing with me. Man, I'm gonna I'm gonna catch
Speaker 3: you in the end zone, Homie, I'm gonna cat Listen.
Speaker 3: They look really good today. It was a good it
Speaker 3: was a good game. But the Steelers look very good today.
Speaker 3: And I think there's only one quarterback that could have
Speaker 3: made the Steelers look the way they looked today based
Speaker 3: on the throes that he threw today, that it.
Speaker 1: Was Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: Boy, Aaron Rodgers was out there scrambling up.
Speaker 2: He took a team of twenty two for two hundred
Speaker 2: yards and a touchdown and know interceptions.
Speaker 3: He played a clean game, he did, and what he read.
Speaker 2: About twenty nine times that I do question why would
Speaker 2: you go for it on fourth down instead of kicking
Speaker 2: the field goal? But other than that, I thought they
Speaker 2: played really well. Judge Justin Jettera ten catches for a buck,
Speaker 2: twenty six on eleven targets, Joe Addison four for one,
Speaker 2: four for one, fourteen on eight targets. Bro Addison Needa's
Speaker 2: butt kick. Did you see that guy? That linebacker went
Speaker 2: and got him?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah he was.
Speaker 1: That's a linebacker.
Speaker 3: Oh Yoe, he just got back.
Speaker 1: I don't give it.
Speaker 3: He just got back.
Speaker 2: Unless he was tied up, had his legs tied in
Speaker 2: the basement. Ain't no linebacker supposed to want to ride
Speaker 2: receiver down, You.
Speaker 3: Do understand, listen, or Addison? Ain't nothing but four four
Speaker 3: These linebackers today run four four four five, so they
Speaker 3: run back four.
Speaker 1: Ain't catching four four?
Speaker 3: Hey when that monkey jump on your back in the
Speaker 3: middle of the game where you're not as fresh as
Speaker 3: you are, when it starts that monkey yo, Hey, that
Speaker 3: that monkey heavy o yo.
Speaker 1: That man, it wasn't no angle he went and got it.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, that's that lack of
Speaker 3: gas bill up now.
Speaker 2: And ain't that gonna build up that you a you
Speaker 2: got to be us saying both to come get me
Speaker 2: with a lead like that.
Speaker 1: You ain't come and get me as a wide receiver
Speaker 1: and that's a linebacker. Oh Joe.
Speaker 2: DK the Steelers in the Sunday averaging the few air
Speaker 2: yards per tempt, but they lead the league in yards
Speaker 2: after the catch. In the early second quarter, Rogers hit
Speaker 2: DK on the slant DK tuck truck one final defender
Speaker 2: getting into the end zone eighty yard touchdown. What did decal?
Speaker 2: DK had five for buck twenty six, one touchdown on
Speaker 2: five targets eighty yards. Game well six for thirty five,
Speaker 2: but Gagwell had nineteen carries ninety nine yards and two touchdowns,
Speaker 2: so they had twenty nine rush attempts one hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty one.
Speaker 1: Yards and two touchdowns. Yeah, went.
Speaker 2: Thirty for forty six three fifty two touchdowns, two interceptions,
Speaker 2: six sacks. They pressured him, they founded him all day.
Speaker 2: Redmond had two sacks. They didn't. I mean, considering they
Speaker 2: had all those sacks. No, I'm looking at the wrong thing,
Speaker 2: look at the wrong thing. Hebric had one and a half.
Speaker 2: Benton had one and a half. Elliott had one, Queen
Speaker 2: had one.
Speaker 1: TJ.
Speaker 2: Watt had one. Queen had three tackles for losses. Wilson
Speaker 2: had two tackles for losses.
Speaker 1: TJ. Hebrin had a tackle for loss. I think Ramsey
Speaker 1: left this game with an injury.
Speaker 3: Didn't he hamstring?
Speaker 2: He appretended like he had what he got one for.
Speaker 3: Real and then really got one for real.
Speaker 2: Steven looked good. Steller looked good. Minnesota got fifteen in
Speaker 2: the in the Maybe could have done something. If if
Speaker 2: that's magnificent science, they get that ball in.
Speaker 1: Maybe they have an.
Speaker 2: Extra thirty forty seconds to play with and they don't
Speaker 2: have to rush. But we'll never know. But give the
Speaker 2: Steelers credit. They bowed their back, They did what they
Speaker 2: needed to do. They found a way to win this ball. Game,
Speaker 2: and they did by the score of twenty four to
Speaker 2: twenty one to win the first game played in Ireland.
Speaker 2: Oh show yo game. You just alluded to Lamar Jackson
Speaker 2: leaves rab Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wait before you even start, before you even start. Now,
Speaker 3: what I'm gonna need you to do. I don't want
Speaker 3: to hear you say foot or ball. You've been talking
Speaker 3: about the Ravens is your team, and I told you
Speaker 3: it was only there for two weeks, but you eluded
Speaker 3: and wanted to be adamant about the Ravens being your team.
Speaker 3: I need you to keep that same energy that you
Speaker 3: had for Joe Burrow when things aren't going well with Joe,
Speaker 3: especially last year. Keep that same energy for eight for
Speaker 3: that popping old let with the Day performance. Now, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna let you go, and at any point I feel
Speaker 3: you you chucking and driving, I'm gonna interrupt, but going ahead,
Speaker 3: go ahead, keep.
Speaker 2: That saying your day coming tomorrow around this time. I
Speaker 2: just want you to know your day coming.
Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, listen, you're gonna be real sad if you go.
Speaker 3: If you go zero for two, I got one team
Speaker 3: lost to Day. Yeah, yeah, ye week, it won't be
Speaker 3: too It won't be too all right.
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson leaves the Ravens in a thirty seven twenty
Speaker 2: loss to the Chiefs with hamstring issues. Baltimore is not
Speaker 2: one and three for the first time since twenty fifteen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: in two games behind the Steelers in the AFC North
Speaker 2: o Jo. How much trouble are the Ravens and Lamar
Speaker 2: Jackson in as we currently speak.
Speaker 3: Budden boys in Hello trouble, You hit me, they in
Speaker 3: Hello trouble. They're in a lot of trouble. For one,
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna talk about the injuries first, I
Speaker 3: just want to talk about the defense. They can't stop nobody.
Speaker 3: They can't stop the run, they can't stop the pass,
Speaker 3: they can't stop Nathaniel nothing outside of that. The good
Speaker 3: thing for the Baltimore Ravens you're not facing the Kansas
Speaker 3: City Chiefs every week, so offensively, you're probably gonna be
Speaker 3: very good against everybody else. What spags dialed up to
Speaker 3: day pressure, pressure pressure. We're not gonna let them. We're
Speaker 3: not gonna allow Lamar to sit back there and have
Speaker 3: his way. Not only that, when he does drop back,
Speaker 3: when he is in the shotgun, were gonna have a spy.
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, we gonna blitz and have a spy
Speaker 3: because I trust my back end to be able to
Speaker 3: handle their business and doing what they need to do.
Speaker 3: And it worked numbers. It was phenomenal. The game plan
Speaker 3: that Spag came in with defensively work phenomenal.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out what Baltimore look has a history.
Speaker 2: If he feels threatened, he's gonna blitch you. You get
Speaker 2: down in his territory, he's gonna blitch you.
Speaker 1: You know this.
Speaker 2: It seemed like the Ravens. Everybody knows this except the Ravens.
Speaker 2: Now they really.
Speaker 3: They had Now, oh.
Speaker 1: Joe, he had been a while. They did not. They
Speaker 1: did not.
Speaker 2: That offensive line Ronnie Staley went out, and so now
Speaker 2: you got to back up in at the most important
Speaker 2: position at the left tackle.
Speaker 1: Your right guard isn't playing up.
Speaker 2: The snuff, and so now you're weaken in two areas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you really couldn't get into your run game.
Speaker 2: Look, they had one hundred and sixty six yards or
Speaker 2: seventeen carriers, but seventy one of that came when the
Speaker 2: game was out a reach. Justice Hill cracked off one.
Speaker 2: But you're able to neutralize Deck Henry. He only had
Speaker 2: eight carries for forty two yards. He's not that kind
Speaker 2: of back that can give you that kind of now.
Speaker 2: He's more like as he gets going, now he can
Speaker 2: pop off one oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but don't pop.
Speaker 3: Up with But this is what this is what you
Speaker 3: see from the chief defense. God damn super Bowl. We
Speaker 3: think it's Sa Kuan gonna have a day. What's fag said?
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no. If anybody's gonna beat us,
Speaker 3: it ain't gonna be twenty six.
Speaker 1: You gotta beat the ball.
Speaker 3: Well, hell, if you're coming into a game like this,
Speaker 3: like like like today, what's the first thing you say? Well,
Speaker 3: we taking two people out, we taking two, were taking two,
Speaker 3: but we knocking two birds with one stone. We're gonna
Speaker 3: spy Lamar Jackson on pass downs and Bliss at the
Speaker 3: same time. And anything with Derrick Henry, Uh, we got
Speaker 3: to see you. We got to have ass you won't
Speaker 3: be bringing off nothing. Hey man and boy were laying
Speaker 3: that wood at the other day.
Speaker 2: What if you go back and look at how teams
Speaker 2: are beating the Chiefs in the postseason. Throw the ball
Speaker 2: first time he lost with Patrick Mahons and the quarterback,
Speaker 2: what did Tom Brady do? Go back and look at
Speaker 2: Don Brady numbers. Yeah, you go back and look at
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and threw the ball. Yeah, you go back
Speaker 2: and look you look at Tampa in the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: and threw the ball. You've got to be able to
Speaker 2: throw the ball because Bags, you got to take something away.
Speaker 2: What he wants to take away. He wants to make
Speaker 2: you one dimensional. So that way he can just focus
Speaker 2: on stopping the pass. Let you run it now, he
Speaker 2: can't focus on what he needs to focus on. Your
Speaker 2: quarterback has to be up to par and he has
Speaker 2: to beat you. Throw in the football and you can't
Speaker 2: turn it over. Can't turn it over. You gotta you
Speaker 2: gotta protect. You gotta protect the ball against Bags if
Speaker 2: you want to beat it. Lamar was fourteen to twenty
Speaker 2: one to forty seven, one touchdown. One of the exceptions.
Speaker 2: Uh he fumbled one. Gotta look, got a little got
Speaker 2: hit from the back.
Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute,
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, wait a minute. I need the same
Speaker 3: energy you have for Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow ain't played. I'm not no, no, no.
Speaker 3: When Joe, when we lose, you have all this energy,
Speaker 3: and Joseph did this, and Joe can't turn the ball
Speaker 3: over and Joe can't do that. I need to have
Speaker 3: the same energy you have with Joe for Lamar. Okay, okay, hey,
Speaker 3: hey Lamar, that's my dog right. Did he take hisself
Speaker 3: out the game today?
Speaker 1: Or was he hurt? He was hamstring? If I reported
Speaker 1: that he have a hamstring injury.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, Well, I need I need
Speaker 3: you to be very critical of your team.
Speaker 1: That's your team, right, that's one of my teams.
Speaker 3: Yes, trying to make sure the energy, the energy is
Speaker 3: not adding up based on the way you were talking yesterday.
Speaker 1: Okay, hello, did you holdo?
Speaker 2: Did you expect the Ravens to beat Kansas City and
Speaker 2: Kansas City?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: So, is that what we're doing? Is that what we're doing?
Speaker 3: So we're saying that the Ravens can't they can't win
Speaker 3: on the road. Is that what you're telling me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: They can?
Speaker 1: Are you making interviews this? No? Holdo?
Speaker 3: On the Cheets are one and three. Huh the Cheets
Speaker 3: are one and three and.
Speaker 1: The Ravens and the Ravens are one and six. Now
Speaker 1: gets the chiefs? Hold on?
Speaker 3: Hold on, let me finish, not let me finish, let
Speaker 3: me cook. Lamar Jackson. Yes, it's one of the greatest
Speaker 3: quarterbacks of all time and he's still Yes. Yes, I
Speaker 3: expect Lamar Jackson and that defense that once was feared
Speaker 3: at one point to go in there and be able
Speaker 3: to beat the goddamn Chiefs. Yes, I do. They got
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson and they got Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: I expected. Think about it.
Speaker 2: So last year they had Lamar, they had Lamar Jackson
Speaker 2: and when he was the m v P and the
Speaker 2: defense was better than that. Yeah, and the Baltimore and
Speaker 2: Kansas City came into their building in the AFC Championship game.
Speaker 1: What happened because what we have seen is that what
Speaker 1: happened today? O Joe, Lamar turned the ball over twice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you're not You're not gonna you heard what
Speaker 3: you just I need you. That's I need you to
Speaker 3: say that. I need you to say.
Speaker 1: I need you.
Speaker 2: We're both breaking down a game. You can see. Let
Speaker 2: you talk, Let you talk, hold on. I need you
Speaker 2: to do eight like you do.
Speaker 3: Joe, you a you be a You be real hype,
Speaker 3: you be real enthusiastic. He'd be real passionate about the
Speaker 3: reason we lost. I because Joe turned the ball over
Speaker 3: and he needs the Lord.
Speaker 2: No, well, you lost for two the same reason. The
Speaker 2: same reason the Bengals lose is the same reason the
Speaker 2: Ravens lose is because Lamar turned the ball over and
Speaker 2: the defense up.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, I just want to hear it out
Speaker 3: your mouth.
Speaker 1: That's you. But you know I'm not breaking news. Excuse me.
Speaker 2: Let me interrupt the normally schedule programming to break this news.
Speaker 2: And you want me to give you an Amber alert.
Speaker 2: The Baltimore Ravens defense isn't very good. We haven't seen
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes look like this, and they see every long
Speaker 2: time all season. I don't know if we've seen him
Speaker 2: look like like twenty five or thirty seven, two seventy
Speaker 2: four touchdowns a Clint Well the last time we saw
Speaker 2: him throw for four touchdown. We haven't seen this this
Speaker 2: on Patrick Mahomes in an extremely long time. And he
Speaker 2: looked very, very comfortable. They ran the ball that they did.
Speaker 2: They worthy the Jaco ran hard. Korean hunt came in,
Speaker 2: he got some big time hold on.
Speaker 3: Talk about talk about Taekwan.
Speaker 2: Now, hey, let me tell you something I don't know
Speaker 2: if y'all notice this, but if you want to have
Speaker 2: a good game, y'all come on and talk to Cap.
Speaker 3: Everybody that comes on the show for some reason, they
Speaker 3: go crazy.
Speaker 2: Melissa Jefferson, they go crazy, Taekwan Rashaan Gary going crazy.
Speaker 1: Henley.
Speaker 3: Hey tell you a matter of fact, all the Ravens
Speaker 3: fans out there, man ay, make sure y'all check on
Speaker 3: butter makes your butter scrape?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean think, oh, Joe, I mean the Chiefs
Speaker 2: hadn't scored thirty five What was the last time chief
Speaker 2: scored thirty five points? You probably got to go back
Speaker 2: all the way back though twenty three. I don't think
Speaker 2: they've scored thirty.
Speaker 3: Speaking speaking of thirty and thirty five points, last year,
Speaker 3: when the Chiefs were playing games, the games are losing
Speaker 3: this year. Those are the games that they won. They
Speaker 3: losing the close games. They losing all the close game James,
Speaker 3: this is the first time the Chiefs have looked like
Speaker 3: the Chiefs of old in a very long time.
Speaker 1: Long time.
Speaker 2: Yes, time they were all in one score game, remember oh,
Speaker 2: your one score game a field goal. They win by one,
Speaker 2: they went by two, they win by three, they went
Speaker 2: by four. They were all these one score games. This
Speaker 2: is the first time that they've won by I mean
Speaker 2: a comfortable margin.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the last time they scored more than thirty was
Speaker 2: against the Raiders in November of twenty three, so almost
Speaker 2: two years.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: That's what the Ravens defense have allowed Kansas City to
Speaker 2: do so in almost two years since they scored more
Speaker 2: than thirty. They just go in there and made it
Speaker 2: look easy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, this is the funny thing. I know, I know,
Speaker 3: I know, I'm being funny by the Ravens. You know,
Speaker 3: I love my Bengals, but the Ravens are going to
Speaker 3: be okay. As bad as their defense is, their identity
Speaker 3: is not their defense. Their identity is their offense. As
Speaker 3: long as you have number eight, it's no different than
Speaker 3: when we talk about the Buffalo Bills. There's no different
Speaker 3: than we talk about the Bengals. Obviously, Joe Burrow is out,
Speaker 3: but as long as you have eight, you're gonna always
Speaker 3: be in contention. I don't care if you won in three,
Speaker 3: I don't care if you wanted four. That team is
Speaker 3: so good offensively and can score thirty, can score forty,
Speaker 3: can put up twenty eight a game. It's just you're playing.
Speaker 3: You're not playing against the Kandasity the Chiefs every day.
Speaker 3: You're not playing against bags or defense like that every
Speaker 3: single day. Other teams you're gonna play aren't gonna have
Speaker 3: the personnel to say we're gonna blitch and have a
Speaker 3: god damn spot. That's not the makeup of other teams.
Speaker 3: So that's how I know the Ravens are going to
Speaker 3: be okay. But right now they're down in the dumps.
Speaker 3: And matter of fact, they they they fan so fickle
Speaker 3: un the fan throwing jerseys all in the trash. They
Speaker 3: making fun of Lamar's about you know, Lamar's like jam like,
Speaker 3: come on, man, oh ko man.
Speaker 1: Let's just what we do. The very thing that we
Speaker 1: criticized Josh Allen for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, La ain't great, but he had a turnovers and
Speaker 2: he couldn't overcome him his defense, and we blamed everybody.
Speaker 2: At what point in time do we say, Lamar, you
Speaker 2: gotta stop turning the ball over.
Speaker 1: We did this for Josh Allen for years.
Speaker 2: Because Josh Allen would play great, he would throw an
Speaker 2: interception in the end zone. He would form of the ball,
Speaker 2: trying to do too much, go back and Look at
Speaker 2: Lamar in the games that he's lost, especially big, big games.
Speaker 2: Look at his turnovers. Look at Kansas City in the championship,
Speaker 2: Look at Buffalo today, one pick, one fumble. When your
Speaker 2: defense is as in f as it is, the last
Speaker 2: thing you want to do is put them back on
Speaker 2: the field. I want to, I ought Joe. I want
Speaker 2: them to play as little as possible.
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
Speaker 2: What the Cowboys are up against, as good as the
Speaker 2: Cowboys offense is, unfortunately, you gotta play. You gotta put
Speaker 2: the defense back on the field, and I want them
Speaker 2: to play as little as possible.
Speaker 1: Guess what happens. I turned the ball over. I break.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow knows about this. I turned the ball over.
Speaker 2: I gotta put the team, the unit that I at
Speaker 2: least want to be on the field, back on the field.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, I don't know what's going to happen. You gotta look.
Speaker 2: I don't advocate anything, but I just think the thing
Speaker 2: is is that I don't know what Zach Orr is calling.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3: Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa. This is what we will not do.
Speaker 3: What we will not blame that all the defensive coordinator
Speaker 3: for the Wolves and the struggles of the defense because
Speaker 3: them boys they got back there, Wiggins, Marlon Humphrey, Kyle Hamilton,
Speaker 3: who they just paid two hundred and thirty seven trillion dollars. No,
Speaker 3: y'all got to get it done. A wozie whatever the coach,
Speaker 3: A woozy, a woozy whatever, whatever the coach called.
Speaker 1: Hold.
Speaker 2: I think a woozy at for the Cowboys. He played
Speaker 2: with this and that he went he in Cincinnati. That's
Speaker 2: that's all that cut. That call him first down because
Speaker 2: you throw the ball on him as the first down,
Speaker 2: that's what they call it.
Speaker 1: Hey, he's on the ravens now. But if he was
Speaker 1: with Cincinnati, wasn't he with the duck Cowboys?
Speaker 3: Also? Yeah yeah yeah on first down? Yeah yeah, I know,
Speaker 3: first down. Yes, that's his nickname. You call him first down,
Speaker 3: throw it.
Speaker 1: On him first time.
Speaker 2: Until Philly survives in town for thirty one twenty five,
Speaker 2: the bus gone into the Phillies twenty fourth three lead,
Speaker 2: thanks to a large part to touchdown passes of seventy
Speaker 2: seven and seventy two yards by Baker Mayfield, making the
Speaker 2: two longest plays against the Eagles defense since.
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio became decordinator.
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts had zero passing yards in the second half
Speaker 2: before becoming the first quarterback to win a game with
Speaker 2: eight or more passing attempts and zero passing yards and
Speaker 2: the second half since Panthers quarterback Jake Delane in Week
Speaker 2: ten of the two thousand and eight season at Oakland.
Speaker 1: He was all nine for zero yards.
Speaker 2: There's only been two quarterbacks in league history that have
Speaker 2: wins in such games since at least nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 3: Hey, we can't do this. Huh, we can't do that.
Speaker 3: We can't do that. You can't listen. You do me
Speaker 3: a favor. Ask asks how much does Devonte Smith make it?
Speaker 3: How much does AJ Brown make?
Speaker 1: Well, we know how much Davonte's mail make.
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 1: AJ makes thirty thirty thirty two million, thirty two or
Speaker 1: thirty three million, And I think Davonte makes like twenty seven,
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty seven.
Speaker 3: Okay, you got a thirty three million dollar receiver, you
Speaker 3: got a twenty seven million dollar receiver, and they combined
Speaker 3: for four catches for thirty six yards a day. But
Speaker 3: you got to win. You got to win. You got
Speaker 3: to win. Ye, Now, as as it's not even the
Speaker 3: quarterback faul. It ain't even were not even blame it
Speaker 3: to the herst fault as an offensive coordinator, as an
Speaker 3: offense as a head coach, how can you even be okay,
Speaker 3: even be okay just because you're winning the game and
Speaker 3: not having some of your best players involved. Do you
Speaker 3: understand what that does the players mentally? I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't think fans understand. I don't. I don't think the
Speaker 3: first thing fans say, well we won the game, Yes,
Speaker 3: we won the game, but these players would love to
Speaker 3: contribute and help to win those said games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh did you do? Do you pull up a J.
Speaker 3: Brown's tweet the crypto crete?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Man, listen clear, there wasn't.
Speaker 2: No cryptic tweet this way tweet after game. If you're
Speaker 2: not welcomed, not listen to quietly withdrawal, don't make a scene.
Speaker 2: Shrug your shoulders and be on your weight.
Speaker 3: The man just want the man who said it over
Speaker 3: and over. Unh. He keeps saying the same thing over
Speaker 3: and over. He had to go through it last year.
Speaker 3: He had to read his book on the sideline to
Speaker 3: keep himself calm, so he doesn't get frustrated. He wears
Speaker 3: that seal in his chest, so he has to conduct
Speaker 3: himself a certain way, the man who wants to contribute
Speaker 3: and be productive and help the offense. Yes, we're winning
Speaker 3: the games, but I would like to help us win.
Speaker 3: You're paying me thirty three goddamn million dollars for a reason.
Speaker 3: Not only might the number one receiver, I'm the captain
Speaker 3: of the team allowed me to feel a part of
Speaker 3: the offense. Pook in the corps caught a high thirteen
Speaker 3: catches to day for one hundred and seventy yards. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you mean to tell me you can't design plays, put
Speaker 3: goddamn AJ Brown and Devonte Smith and creative positions to
Speaker 3: get them the ball.
Speaker 2: You're never going to create a scenario where the fans
Speaker 2: feel sorry for AJ Brown as long as you win it.
Speaker 2: Because everybody says they say the most important thing is
Speaker 2: the winning. I don't care about stats. I care about winning.
Speaker 3: You know they care about stats, know they care about stats.
Speaker 3: We care about stats for a reason because we go
Speaker 3: to the table. It's the only thing we have to
Speaker 3: lean on. It's the only thing we as players have
Speaker 3: to lean on. Well, listen, I deserve this amount of
Speaker 3: money because look at my production, look at my numbers.
Speaker 3: We allow stuff like this to happen, and you don't
Speaker 3: speak out about it, as we see because you're winning.
Speaker 3: When it's time to go to the table, you can't
Speaker 3: mention nothing about them wins if you don't have the
Speaker 3: production to match it. You can't say, oh, what, I'm
Speaker 3: on the field we win in, Well, where's the production.
Speaker 3: You're not helping us win. That's the game that they're
Speaker 3: gonna play. The people on the house side watching that
Speaker 3: love the game, they don't understand that. I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: and it's gonna happen. I guarantee you. I swear for God,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you. They're gonna use this against him. We're winning,
Speaker 3: but your production doesn't match your salary. You're really not
Speaker 3: You're not worth thirty three million dollars because we're winning
Speaker 3: without you. We can win without you making that kind
Speaker 3: of money, and it's gonna backfire.
Speaker 2: I think the thing that's frustrating to him is that
Speaker 2: so many balls, say a lot of bounds, and you
Speaker 2: don't even have a.
Speaker 3: Chance to catch, chance to get him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what's frustrated. Look, Jo, at least give
Speaker 2: me a chance. Yeah, okay, we're gonna make it fifty
Speaker 2: to fifty. That's one hundred percent. No chance of a
Speaker 2: completion with him, it's eighty twenty. So you put the
Speaker 2: ball in play with Aj Brown, it's eighty twenty. He's
Speaker 2: coming down with that. He's coming down with that. Just
Speaker 2: put it in the vicinity, Just put it in the area.
Speaker 3: I got you. He showed that last week. They had
Speaker 3: no choice but to throw. He put it in the area.
Speaker 3: What he did, came down with it.
Speaker 2: They dodged the bullet today they got a block punt
Speaker 2: and Baker made a terror I mean, he made a
Speaker 2: horrible decision on the interception. They dodged a bullet. Give
Speaker 2: them credit. They find ways to win. Good football teams
Speaker 2: find ways to win. Bad football teams find ways to lose.
Speaker 2: It's a good football team and they're finding ways to win.
Speaker 2: And uh, I get it, I get it. I get
Speaker 2: AJ's frustration. We've all been there, well, most of us
Speaker 2: has been there. Everybody Jerry ain't never been there. Jerry,
Speaker 2: Jerry don't know what it's like. LAUGHI is Gerald. Some
Speaker 2: of these guys don't know what it's like to go
Speaker 2: and have two catches and things like that, he.
Speaker 3: Had seven yards. Aj Brown, top five receiver in the
Speaker 3: NFL today, has seven yards in a fourth quarter game.
Speaker 3: Seven that's pathetic. This ain't high school, This ain't pee wee.
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck if you did win. You
Speaker 3: don't have your number one receiver that you paid thirty
Speaker 3: three million dollars. What's seven yards in a fourth quarter game.
Speaker 3: It's tough, he said, Brown. Hold your head, boy, hold tight,
Speaker 3: hold tight. You got that seat on your chest for
Speaker 3: a reason.
Speaker 1: Nah, just click your account and just make sure that
Speaker 1: money depositive.
Speaker 3: Nah. He ain't about the money. He ain't about the money.
Speaker 3: I want to help my team win. I want to
Speaker 3: be a part of the offense.
Speaker 1: Well, keep blocking, That's all. That's all I can tell
Speaker 1: her right now.
Speaker 2: On Joe, Hey, Ojo, just when, not when? Maybe this
Speaker 2: week will be a situation where.
Speaker 1: It was last week.
Speaker 2: Remember how he came on in the second half and
Speaker 2: he took the game over against the Rams.
Speaker 1: Maybe that maybe that rears its head this week.
Speaker 2: So the Giants earned their first win of the seasons,
Speaker 2: twenty one to eighteen. Rookie quarterback Jackson Dart, in his
Speaker 2: first career start, completed thirteen of twenty passes one hundred
Speaker 2: and eleven yards, a touchdowns nor interception, But the Giants
Speaker 2: lost Maleak Neighbors in the second quarter.
Speaker 1: To what is believed to be in a cl injury.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, Odell Beckham tweeted after the neighbors injury their NFL.
Speaker 1: I mean this with the most loving respect.
Speaker 2: We the NFL take all precautions in the world, with
Speaker 2: everything else when it comes to players health and safety.
Speaker 1: Please please please get rid of this turf.
Speaker 2: Thank you in advance, love, respect, and you know I
Speaker 2: love the Giants, but death life has taken too many
Speaker 2: talented players away from the game. I know it's not
Speaker 2: all turf's fault, but maybe it's where we've got to go.
Speaker 2: We've gotten all research done to turn state it's the
Speaker 2: highest quality is possible.
Speaker 1: At least we can start that discussion. Oh Joe, we're.
Speaker 2: Looking at from twenty to twenty twenty five, there have
Speaker 2: been at least sixteen documented ACL and Achilles injuries at
Speaker 2: MetLife Stadium. Aaron Rodgers Achilles, Jalen Phillips Achilles, Nick Bosa, acl,
Speaker 2: Molik neighbors suspected ACL. What's you thinking, oh Joe?
Speaker 3: Nothing? Nothing at all, I played on that same turf.
Speaker 3: I played in that same turf out there, and goddamn Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: I'm play in the same turf for eleven goddamn years.
Speaker 3: It ain't got nothing to do with no goddamn turf.
Speaker 3: If it was grass, if something's gonna pull, it's something
Speaker 3: gonna pop, it's gonna pop, regardless of what the surface
Speaker 3: is that's below you. It doesn't matter. It had nothing
Speaker 3: to do. I mean, we got to get that out
Speaker 3: of our mind. We got to get that out of
Speaker 3: the mind. Oh, we're stuffing these injuries because of the
Speaker 3: surface we're playing on. No, that's coming from within. That's within,
Speaker 3: that's the ground. The ground has nothing to do with
Speaker 3: that at all. I'm just being honest. It doesn't. It
Speaker 3: had no correlation at all. People get people get acls
Speaker 3: and achilles on regular grass. It's the same thing.
Speaker 2: But are they happening with the same frequency. Come on, man, well,
Speaker 2: let me ask your question.
Speaker 3: Let me ask your question has no bearing.
Speaker 2: Well, so, why have there been so many ACL and
Speaker 2: achilles injuries in that stadium specifically?
Speaker 3: I mean why, I mean, let's say that stadium pacifically, right,
Speaker 3: Why have there been so many ACL and Achilles injuries
Speaker 3: in general. Why is it risen not just in met life,
Speaker 3: just in general.
Speaker 2: Maybe because there's a lot more of these stadiums that
Speaker 2: have this synthetic turf.
Speaker 3: No, that has nothing to do with it, because sometimes
Speaker 3: people aren't even being touched. Some of these are non
Speaker 3: contact injuries. Yeah, no, they had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what the study is. So but see, you
Speaker 2: don't believe in studies and science anyway.
Speaker 3: And that's the problem. We keep worrying about science. It's science.
Speaker 3: That's why everybody getting hurt. That's why. That's the problem.
Speaker 3: We listen to these people that never played the fucking game.
Speaker 3: Oh my bad, my bad, I'm sorry. We're listening to
Speaker 3: these people that are experts on what we're supposed to
Speaker 3: consume and put in our bodies, that have never played
Speaker 3: any sport at the highest level and know what it
Speaker 3: takes to be able to play a four quarter game
Speaker 3: in a Barbara sport where we're running to each other
Speaker 3: thirty miles an hour. But yeah, eat this green stuff.
Speaker 3: It's healthy for you. It's gonna help you. No, for
Speaker 3: some reason, everybody's continue to get hurt. Soft titch injury,
Speaker 3: This achilles, quads, hamstrings, everything blowing out. Something has to
Speaker 3: get and we're blaming on the injuries. I mean, we
Speaker 3: blame we're blaming it on turf, You goddamn turf. When
Speaker 3: y'all played, y'all played on concrete. Yeah, y'all played on concrete. Well,
Speaker 3: carpet laid on top of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but noblem that the end of window Carter's career.
Speaker 2: He tore both putel attendance and that.
Speaker 1: Look.
Speaker 2: I just think the thing is is that if you know,
Speaker 2: if you if you know more, you should do more.
Speaker 2: And I think there's a reason why. So in other words,
Speaker 2: so let me ask you a question. So why did
Speaker 2: they kick the kick off out? If it doesn't hurt,
Speaker 2: guys gonna get hurt anyway, So why so why not
Speaker 2: continue to run down there and let guys running each other?
Speaker 3: Oh? The NFL covering the ass?
Speaker 1: Okay, well cover wall. Don't you want to come you ask?
Speaker 1: With these injuries?
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, hold on, listen to me real quick.
Speaker 3: We're trying to prevent the collisions from so far apart.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna shrink it down right because we lost
Speaker 3: a lawsuit to what what three generations ago?
Speaker 1: In two thousand and early two thousands.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, three generations or three errors. Three aras ago
Speaker 3: we lost a billion dollar lawsuit. Three you know what
Speaker 3: I'm trying to say. We don't want to have that,
Speaker 3: have that happen again. So what are we gonna do.
Speaker 3: We're gonna take precautions anyone that gets hurt. We're going
Speaker 3: to continue to throw flag when we continue to find you.
Speaker 3: So you're gonna come back ten years later from now
Speaker 3: trying to sue us, saying well ahead, or this is
Speaker 3: messed up because of these circumstances that we had back then.
Speaker 3: That's what the NFL is doing.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is is that the NFL, your
Speaker 2: product suffers when your best players aren't on the field.
Speaker 2: There's a reason why you can't hit the quarterback below
Speaker 2: the knee.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Trent Green suffered the exact same injury on that very
Speaker 2: similar plan, and they didn't change the rule. It wasn't
Speaker 2: until Tom Brady Brady, Yes, and they call it the
Speaker 2: Brady rule. Yeah, There's been a lot of got quarterbacks
Speaker 2: that got hitting the knee and got hurt. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: it was I just think the think, look, I think
Speaker 2: if if you know more, you should do more.
Speaker 1: You don't. You don't believe, you don't believe in size,
Speaker 1: You don't go to the doctor.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean I go to the doctor.
Speaker 2: Why because he've never played no sport? How would he
Speaker 2: know what? What?
Speaker 1: What? How he know how to treat your body?
Speaker 3: Because I can't check myself. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I gotta make sure I'm healthy.
Speaker 2: But why you don't listen to no nutritionist? Would you
Speaker 2: listen to doctor?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, hold on, listen, listen, listen to me, listen.
Speaker 3: I don't listen to nobody that does studies and tells
Speaker 3: people I need to put in my body to play
Speaker 3: the game of football at the highest level.
Speaker 2: Why would you that that to tell you what you
Speaker 2: should put in your body to heal your body?
Speaker 1: So why would you do that?
Speaker 3: What? Hold on? Hold on? I need better context, I
Speaker 3: need better context.
Speaker 2: Would you listen to anybody to say you need to
Speaker 2: put this medicine in your body so you can feel better,
Speaker 2: so you won't be sick, so you won't have a
Speaker 2: sore throat?
Speaker 1: Why would you listen to your.
Speaker 3: Whoa whoa whoa whoa. My sore throat is because of
Speaker 3: the ac and I don't.
Speaker 2: Don't ac I'm just asking you a simple question. You
Speaker 2: need to answer. Let me answer. Okay, I don't take
Speaker 2: medicine for one. Let's start there. Okay, that's all I
Speaker 2: will say. So you said you're the way to say
Speaker 2: you go to the doctor to take medicine.
Speaker 3: No, I just say that. I say to check up.
Speaker 1: Gotta go. Why are you going to get check up
Speaker 1: for me? Oh? You don't. You're not gonna listen to
Speaker 1: what he says anyway, So why do you care?
Speaker 3: No, because he has to let me know if everything
Speaker 3: is okay with me, we gotta get tell you.
Speaker 1: Oh yo, why do you care?
Speaker 2: You're not going to listen to him?
Speaker 3: We got to get a check up, every man? And
Speaker 3: why do.
Speaker 1: You have to get a check up when you're not
Speaker 1: gonna listen to what he says?
Speaker 3: Because we're in our fifties, we have to What are
Speaker 3: you talking about?
Speaker 1: You don't have to?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do.
Speaker 1: Did your mom get checked up? Did your grandma get
Speaker 1: check up? No? It didn't. The old people didn't getting
Speaker 1: no check up.
Speaker 2: I'm asking you, if you're not going to listen to
Speaker 2: what the doctor says, why are you going to get
Speaker 2: checked up?
Speaker 1: Why do you even have.
Speaker 3: Medical that make sure everything is okay with me? Why
Speaker 3: so I can know?
Speaker 2: So you just want to know. You're not gonna do
Speaker 2: anything about it. So why you want to know?
Speaker 3: Because I'm supposed to go get a check up every
Speaker 3: six months, you don't do that.
Speaker 2: Why do you need a check up when you're not
Speaker 2: gonna listen to what the doctor says to help you
Speaker 2: feel better, make you feel better or be healthier.
Speaker 1: Why are you going well?
Speaker 3: For one, this is a good thing, right, So every
Speaker 3: time I go do my checkup, there's nothing from me.
Speaker 3: So really, there's nothing for the doctor has told me
Speaker 3: I need to do because I always feel good. Okay,
Speaker 3: so I'm good. But you're going for some reason because
Speaker 3: I have to do my check up every since.
Speaker 1: You don't have to.
Speaker 2: There is no law that says you have to go
Speaker 2: get a check up? Where's the law?
Speaker 3: What do you mean? They said it in school? Once
Speaker 3: you hit forty you got to get your check up.
Speaker 2: They said a lot of things school, they said study
Speaker 2: and do your homework.
Speaker 1: You ain't listening to that now.
Speaker 3: Because I wanted to play football. I ain't kidding out
Speaker 3: win no scholar. Yeah, but then you found out.
Speaker 2: You know what, I got to study and do my
Speaker 2: homework to play football.
Speaker 3: I did, I did, I did at the AI.
Speaker 1: Let's get up.
Speaker 2: Jackson dark Is the first quarterback, says Patrick Mahomes, to
Speaker 2: lead their team to an eighty plus yard drive on
Speaker 2: the first drive of their first career start.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, the moment didn't look too big for it.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Look it's the first game. Listen.
Speaker 2: Look, you and I not gonna start. We're not gonna
Speaker 2: get a parade going. But what we will do is
Speaker 2: that we saw flashes and we saw glimpses of him
Speaker 2: in preseason. Look like, Oh Joe, he looked good, and
Speaker 2: I was like, Ojoe, over under eight weeks of RUSS,
Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna take the under, and I'm not
Speaker 2: so sure it's gonna be for it's gonna be much
Speaker 2: longer than four five weeks. Also, you and I was talking.
Speaker 2: I said, oh yo, if it's me, I'm gonna start
Speaker 2: him at home against the Chargers. I'm not gonna start
Speaker 2: him on the road in the Saints in that building.
Speaker 2: That noise on almost started him in my building because
Speaker 2: I know, at least for the first game, the crowd
Speaker 2: is going to be on the side and they won't
Speaker 2: do it. Yeah, but he looked he looked good. Now
Speaker 2: it hurts that he's not going to have his most
Speaker 2: talented player on the offense side of football joining him.
Speaker 1: But he looked good, very good, very good. What did
Speaker 1: you like about what you saw from him?
Speaker 3: Listen, not only did they run the offense right, even
Speaker 3: with the with Malik Never's going out, he still looked good.
Speaker 3: Obviously players are call offensively. Seeing him use his legs
Speaker 3: on some of those third downs and get those first downs,
Speaker 3: and being able to play off script outside of the
Speaker 3: scheme and the players of the call is what I
Speaker 3: was most excited about. I think about the difference between
Speaker 3: him and Russell Wilson. Obviously Russell being in there, being
Speaker 3: able to stand in the pocket, and he doesn't have
Speaker 3: that ability to be a dual threat as he once
Speaker 3: was when he was in Seattle. So having that addition
Speaker 3: of Jackson Dark being able to come in drop back,
Speaker 3: being in the shotgun, being able to go through his
Speaker 3: reads and not see anything there and be able to
Speaker 3: take to pull that thing down and take off. And
Speaker 3: not only he taking a boy, he could run on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can run.
Speaker 3: He got I ain't know you're fast like that. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying Lamar Jackson, nothing like that. But but young
Speaker 3: bull got wheels on him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can run. I like. I like Scatbou running
Speaker 1: the football.
Speaker 3: Scatterbooy remind me of Peyton Hillis.
Speaker 2: He does, he does, has a little do or all
Speaker 2: start Michael, remember All Star.
Speaker 3: All Star Knights. But but Peyton Hillison, scatterbul got a
Speaker 3: little bit more wiggle to him, though, Ye got a
Speaker 3: little more wiggle to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see here, giants.
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, man, I thought bigger. I thought that.
Speaker 1: I thought, you.
Speaker 2: Know, he gonna go low man, You're not say he
Speaker 2: gotta run high pol get that all down, and we.
Speaker 3: Got to get Dexter work on that stiff arm. If
Speaker 3: he got in the end zone. You know that's a
Speaker 3: big man dream. And the seventh pick a pick a well,
Speaker 3: I think the stadium would have erupted if he would
Speaker 3: have if you would have got past that and heard
Speaker 3: it over that that tackle. But that would have been nice.
Speaker 1: Boy.
Speaker 2: They did a great job of getting after Herbert, Yes, Bibodeau, Burns,
Speaker 2: Abdual Carter, Sexy Dexy. Those guys did a great job
Speaker 2: of putting pressure on it. He never really felt comfortable.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Give them credit. Give them credit. They got they they
Speaker 2: they got after him, they got out, they got after
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, and he finally, he finally looked mortal because
Speaker 2: he had been playing out of his mind. The first
Speaker 2: three games. He had played out of his mind, but
Speaker 2: today he looked like a you're a mortal.
Speaker 3: And my young bull over there on the other side,
Speaker 3: who's been having some struggles Quentin Johnston. Yeah, yeah, looking
Speaker 3: like looking like that boy, looking like how he's supposed
Speaker 3: to be. Now that confidence is setting. He's stringing games
Speaker 3: like this back to back to back, and for him,
Speaker 3: it's only up from there. I just want to give
Speaker 3: him mispraise because we've been down on him because, you know,
Speaker 3: because his recently.
Speaker 1: You have to drop he struggled early.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but hey, Quentin Johnson, boy, I know
Speaker 3: you're gonna see this boy.
Speaker 1: For you.
Speaker 3: That boy, keep going, boy, keep going, look good. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Keenan Allen, Keenan Allen. We already know what he can do.
Speaker 3: We know we can do, so we just picking up
Speaker 3: where he left off.
Speaker 2: Hampton left Hampton at twelve for a buck twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Hey, boy, he was tolding that thing.
Speaker 1: What and can?
Speaker 3: Yeah he was nice, he would notice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but a scat pack. Scat pack go hey, hey,
Speaker 2: he goes, Hey, he get a couple of hundred yard game.
Speaker 2: He and Jacking Dark go own the city.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Listen, if if Dodge was if
Speaker 3: Dodge was smart, they'd be doing a commercial, a scat
Speaker 3: pack commercial with scatter boat. It only makes sense. It
Speaker 3: only makes sense. I need three percent if that happened
Speaker 3: to scatter boat, Hey, Dodge, hard less scatter boat scat
Speaker 3: back commercial.
Speaker 2: The Chargers have an old line problem with your left tackle.
Speaker 2: Joe out of the game early with an ankle injury,
Speaker 2: putting putting an already injured offensive line because he was
Speaker 2: filling in for uh, what's the guy he just got
Speaker 2: a big contract Slater shn Slater. He was feeling it
Speaker 2: because he moved from right tackle to left tackle and
Speaker 2: replaced Slater Slater's out.
Speaker 1: Herbert was under siege.
Speaker 2: He was pressured on almost forty eight percent of his dropbacks.
Speaker 3: Well, it's tough, it's tough. Now listen. He looked, he looked,
Speaker 3: he looked normal. He got your officive line. Now it's
Speaker 3: hard it's hard running for your life and your old line.
Speaker 3: And there lamar today justin Herbert, I mean man.
Speaker 2: Jaguars beat the forty Niners on your twenty six twenty
Speaker 2: with Parker Washington's punt return touchdown for takeaway former Niner
Speaker 2: Eric Armstead strip sack brock Partty with less than three
Speaker 2: minutes to play. With three minutes to play to seal
Speaker 2: the win for the Jags, things got heated at the
Speaker 2: end of the game. After the game Oh Joe with
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen and Niners decordinator Robert Sala had to be
Speaker 2: held back while yelling at each other. Sala had acute
Speaker 2: jags of stealing signs in a legal fashion.
Speaker 1: Totally keep my name out your mouth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, keep my name keep a keep my name at
Speaker 2: your denthes now yeah, now, Hey, don't make me run
Speaker 2: up on you.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey, mister Liam walked up on him, like listen, man, hey,
Speaker 3: what you doing giving all this unsolicited advice? He may
Speaker 3: keep my name out of your mind. Hey, he should have.
Speaker 3: He should have shoved him with the finger in his head.
Speaker 3: He should have gave him one.
Speaker 1: I bet that you go bad.
Speaker 3: I'm saying. When it comes to coaches, there's certain things
Speaker 3: that you're supposed to keep in the house, certain things
Speaker 3: you're not supposed to share. You know. That's I mean,
Speaker 3: how you just volunteer, volunteering information that nobody knows about
Speaker 3: except coaches. You don't do that. So he had to
Speaker 3: go check him, like Nike, Hey, Hey, they should have
Speaker 3: threw down right there at the fifty Uh.
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence twenty one thirty one one seventy one, one touchdown,
Speaker 2: no interceptions at n nineteen carries, a buck twenty four
Speaker 2: and a tub thirty two. Russians one fifty one. Yn
Speaker 2: Thomas Jr. Had five for forty nine straight six for
Speaker 2: forty five. Travis Hunter had three for forty two fumble
Speaker 2: but they recovered it. Brock Party was twenty two or
Speaker 2: thirty eight, three or nine, two touchdowns, two interceptions, and
Speaker 2: was sacked once. Christian McCaffery had seventeen carries for forty
Speaker 2: nine yards. Ryan Robinson's junior five for twenty one, brock
Speaker 2: Party two for thirteen, so twenty four rush attempts eighty
Speaker 2: three yards. Christian McCaffery had six for ninety two and
Speaker 2: a touchdown on the receiving end toan just had three
Speaker 2: for fifty eight in a touchdown. Pearsall had an outstanding
Speaker 2: one handed catch, had four for forty two. Kyle Yustchik
Speaker 2: three for thirty two. Turnovers killed him. You can't turn
Speaker 2: it over.
Speaker 3: Every time you cast you the game, it cast you
Speaker 3: the game, and it cost him the game tonight.
Speaker 2: Yep, Travis did not play at all on defense in
Speaker 2: the second half. Forty five total snaps tied for a
Speaker 2: season low thirty six offense snaps, so that means he
Speaker 2: had nine defensive snaps.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: They got to make up their mind, man, Oh, cho
Speaker 3: let me ask your question. They got to make up
Speaker 3: their mind.
Speaker 1: Oh yo, you want to be Let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: If I gave you a choice, Oh, Joe, you can
Speaker 2: be a leader at one thing, or you can be
Speaker 2: the average of two things.
Speaker 1: What you choosing.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a leader that one thing.
Speaker 1: Because right now he's averaging both.
Speaker 3: I don't know what they're doing. Travis Hunter is the
Speaker 3: number two pick on right right, I think to me,
Speaker 3: I know he wants to play both sides of the ball.
Speaker 3: I would love for him to be number two pick
Speaker 3: at one position. Well, I listen, I was all I
Speaker 3: was all for him being on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 3: I know you can do it, you got the confidence
Speaker 3: to do it. But I need you to see. I
Speaker 3: need to see you on one side of the ball
Speaker 3: and being effective for your team, either offensively or defensively,
Speaker 3: what one or the other. As a number two pick,
Speaker 3: you should be on the field every single down on
Speaker 3: offense or defense. Because what they're doing is they're bringing
Speaker 3: him along slow and picking and choosing when the play.
Speaker 1: It is not showing the value though.
Speaker 3: It's not showing the value and why you pick them
Speaker 3: number two not not the way they're using him.
Speaker 1: But uh, what didn't he give? I think he had
Speaker 1: he gave up four completions though only nine snaps.
Speaker 3: He did. Mm hmm, that's what That's one of the
Speaker 3: games I wasn't able to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't let uh could I be trying to
Speaker 2: watch it? Do they let you watch individual games?
Speaker 1: Anymore? Individual games? Or you got a block? You know.
Speaker 2: I'd be trying. I'll be trying to. I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: me a fire stick. I got to get a set
Speaker 2: up like I got in in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: I was I was able to see all the games. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know when I don't stay home. So for the
Speaker 3: one o'clock games, I go to a place called up
Speaker 3: there in Hollandale down all the TVs and the goddamn
Speaker 3: Jag TV just happened to be on the Jag game
Speaker 3: happened to be on the TV all the way on
Speaker 3: the end.
Speaker 2: So what But see, the thing is, I can't It's
Speaker 2: hard for me to focus. So like I need to
Speaker 2: get a set up. I need to get a set
Speaker 2: up like I got in Atlanta. So I got all
Speaker 2: the individual TVs. Oh Joe, so I could just put
Speaker 2: like his I put like six games on knowing that
Speaker 2: you know, and hopefully the games that I have on
Speaker 2: y'rey exciting because you know, you always have your games.
Speaker 2: You know you're gonna talk about the Cowboys, talk about
Speaker 2: the Eagles. There are certain teams that you know you're
Speaker 2: going to talk about. Now you try to have a
Speaker 2: couple of games that Okay, it's interesting and they do
Speaker 2: something and we're able to talk about them.
Speaker 1: Uh, Like you know, the the.
Speaker 2: Jazz got Travis Hunter Jackson, Travis Travis Hunter, were probably
Speaker 2: not talking about them. Let's be real, because we keep
Speaker 2: hoping that we see a glimpse of what we saw
Speaker 2: at SeeU and what we saw at Jackson State pick
Speaker 2: and a touchdown.
Speaker 3: They bring him along so slow in hand, feeding him
Speaker 3: more and actually he regressed as far as not playing
Speaker 3: defense this game.
Speaker 2: I mean, because I think about it, Ojo you do,
Speaker 2: Ojo you and not know this man, you got to
Speaker 2: be sound in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Them guys are really really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are no slouches everybody. Look, there are a
Speaker 2: lot of guys that Travis Hunter went against as a
Speaker 2: dB and wins against as a wide receiver. That's not
Speaker 2: the NFL. Every guy that he goes against on Sunday
Speaker 2: is in the NFL, the real deal.
Speaker 1: Everybody.
Speaker 2: Everybody he's going against was an All State, was an
Speaker 2: All Conference, was a something, got some awards some level
Speaker 2: along the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and listen for me. What I don't like is
Speaker 3: I've been spoiled. I've been spoiled watching him at Colorado. Yeah,
Speaker 3: be spoiled, watching him make players on both sides of
Speaker 3: the ball. Yes, from the Heisman. He was number two
Speaker 3: in the draft. So now that I'm spoiled, I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 3: he told teams he wants to make sure he's able
Speaker 3: to play both sides of the ball wherever he's drafted.
Speaker 3: The Jaguars agreed to it. So what you think I'm
Speaker 3: waiting to see. I'm waiting to see the exact same
Speaker 3: output players that I saw in Colorado, even though I
Speaker 3: understand it doesn't work like that.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that you, you and others got spoiled.
Speaker 2: Thought he was just gonna like it was ready. It
Speaker 2: was ready. You know, some assemblies required. You know, you
Speaker 2: get toys on you a kid, your mom, your grandma,
Speaker 2: your granddad. Somebody had to put this stuff together. Some
Speaker 2: assembly will be required. They I mean, Chad, honestly, did
Speaker 2: y'all thought they was gonna just throw this man out
Speaker 2: there and he was gonna do exactly what he did
Speaker 2: at Colorado.
Speaker 1: Y'all thought he's gonna do that in the NFL.
Speaker 2: I know, I know y'all watched the game too long
Speaker 2: to not say thing that, oh yeah, he gonna do
Speaker 2: exactly that right out the box. Really chat honestly, I mean,
Speaker 2: be real, let y'all, gen Z, y'all just told me,
Speaker 2: y'all say what's on y'all mind?
Speaker 1: Tell me y'all didn't think that, what'd you call it?
Speaker 3: Gen Z?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean that's when they say, they say, we tell you,
Speaker 2: did y'all really think that the first game he was
Speaker 2: gonna look exactly how he looked at Colorado?
Speaker 1: Did y'all think that? Really?
Speaker 3: I knew, I knew he was gonna be in there
Speaker 3: like that. But now we're going we we in week four,
Speaker 3: I'm expecting more volume of reps on both sides of
Speaker 3: the ball.
Speaker 2: I'm waving, I'm waiting. Okay, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2: Though you expected these volumes of reps, so you expected so.
Speaker 2: But do you want greatness or you want average? Because
Speaker 2: right now he's average at two positions.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on the.
Speaker 3: Player he is is not average.
Speaker 2: So he's good his play, damn what he is. I'm
Speaker 2: talking about his plate. So you tell me so I
Speaker 2: want to. I'll tell you what I'm gonna take. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take the name off the back. And you don't
Speaker 2: know anything else. And I just say that number twelve.
Speaker 1: What you tell me? What you when you see him
Speaker 1: on our fence, you see him on defense?
Speaker 3: Tell me what you're thinking of the small players I've seen, Yes,
Speaker 3: he got some many and they ain't using him right.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm telling you that.
Speaker 1: Man, he was so he was the nine snaps on defense.
Speaker 1: He gave up four catches.
Speaker 2: You think he got some many, Well, shit, everybody, no,
Speaker 2: don't do that.
Speaker 1: I'm just alone like all the time out.
Speaker 3: Everybody gonna catch balls. What you're saying?
Speaker 1: Whoa? No?
Speaker 2: No, hold on, wait a minute, I'm you. He's the
Speaker 2: number two pick in the draft, right right right.
Speaker 1: I ask you you. I said you want to be
Speaker 1: average and you do want to be elite? You said
Speaker 1: the elite? Yeah.
Speaker 3: Remember I'm on your side, though, Remember I saying.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is that people expected that he was
Speaker 2: gonna get dropped into the NFL and you're just gonna
Speaker 2: pick right up way left or you and I vote.
Speaker 2: They they get mad at us because we say that's
Speaker 2: not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Well, how do you know? Because I played the NFL.
Speaker 1: How do you know it's gonna happen in the NFL?
Speaker 2: You didn't, right, So I know a lot of guys,
Speaker 2: because here's the thing, Ojo, is that what you think
Speaker 2: those guys thinking they gonna dig it even harder? Bro,
Speaker 2: I'm not finna let you beat me. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: let you d me up. Guys, really be on their back.
Speaker 2: Oh tell you know when you went against read this,
Speaker 2: or you went against the top a key, or you
Speaker 2: went against the top guys, but you know you had
Speaker 2: to be on your best behavior.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, That's how they approach him.
Speaker 1: That's how they're approaching him.
Speaker 3: So now he just like it.
Speaker 1: It's in his mind.
Speaker 2: I want to do something nobody's ever done, nobody's rich
Speaker 2: and and Chuck mcnerick was the last guy to be
Speaker 2: a full time two way player. That was in the sixties.
Speaker 2: He was a center and a middle linebacker. They called
Speaker 2: him Concrete Charlie Chuck mc Philadelphia Eagles, go look at
Speaker 2: story up. Oh Joe, I just don't know. I just
Speaker 2: don't know. I just don't know what people that what
Speaker 2: they expect. I mean, give the guy some grades, let
Speaker 2: him have some time.
Speaker 1: But he oh, he terrible. The coach roll. It's gonna
Speaker 1: take time.
Speaker 2: And then it's like, well time said, well he didn't
Speaker 2: practice on Tuesday time. You know, they ain't letting no
Speaker 2: rookie come in and not go practice.
Speaker 1: Come on time. Yeah, oh Joe, what rookie.
Speaker 2: You know, I've never seen a rookie that's come in
Speaker 2: and not practice at all. So you so when they
Speaker 2: practice on Wednesday, he gets that day off a rookie.
Speaker 2: I've seen vets do that. Yeah, I ain't never seen
Speaker 2: the rookie do it. I haven't have you have you
Speaker 2: been around you played eleven years?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
Speaker 2: And I've had some rookies. Clinton Porters won Offensive Rookie
Speaker 2: of the Year, Mike Crow one defensive Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: I'll stand it. They ain't get no day off right
Speaker 1: a rookie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, I'm just going I've grown I've grown frustrated.
Speaker 3: I've grown frustrated it because in my mind number two pick,
Speaker 3: he's dynamic. I know what he can do offensively. I
Speaker 3: understand the skill set. How are they going to use
Speaker 3: him to maximize his potential? I just want more. We
Speaker 3: in week four and I'm not getting what I thought
Speaker 3: I would get, even if it even if it doesn't
Speaker 3: have to be both sides of the ball, even just.
Speaker 2: You and I agreed that I thought he was a
Speaker 2: better dB, I say, playing at dB and put packages.
Speaker 2: But it seems to Liam can or why Travis Hunter
Speaker 2: only played receiver in the second half personal decision.
Speaker 1: That had to do with a few things we'll keep
Speaker 1: in house. For now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some ain't going right, some ain't going right. Well,
Speaker 3: there's no reason that there's no reason things will be
Speaker 3: going backwards as the season goes on. There's a lot
Speaker 3: they're supposed to be adding food on your plate, not
Speaker 3: taking food off your plate.