1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome and everybody to the Clay Travis 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show on this Thursday, May twelve. Appreciate 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: you hanging with us. A lot to discuss. We got 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: whistleblowers reveal the FBI labeled dozens of investigations into parents 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: with a threat tag created by the FBI's Counter Terrorism Division. 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: Dive into that in a little bit. Got Governor Young 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: Kid of Virginia saying that the Attorney General should enforce 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: the law when it comes to stopping these protests that 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: are meant to intimidate Supreme Court justices at their homes. 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: Law is pretty clear, and the Governor of Virginia agrees. 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Some are saying that the Governor Virginia should use the 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: misdemeanor state law that is also at play here, but 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: the federal law has more teeth and more serious penalties 15 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: attached to it. We've also got a whole bunch of 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: fantastic guests joining us. Our friend Katie Pavlich. In just 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: a matter of minutes, your Bottom of the Hour town 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: Hall editor, Fox News contributor got a pace on moving 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: baby formula. The federal government moving baby formula to the 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: southern border for illegal Migraines entering into the country. I 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: don't know if they're moving baby formula to anybody else 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: though right now, I haven't seen anything about that. We've 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: also got our friend Rob Smith, he's in Rock war Vett, 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: political analyst and a podcast host, joining us a second hour. 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: Kennedy of Kennedy on Fox Business. She'll be with us 26 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: in the third hour. So we got a lot to 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: talk about, but I wanted to dive right now Clay 28 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: into It's it's fun to ask people when you're visiting 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: a place, as I'm going to Chicago, and I think 30 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: it's funny to for people to hear. I mean, I've 31 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: been I've been to Thailand, I've been to Bangkok, I've 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: been to Buenos Ares, never been to Chicago, and this 33 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: is crazy, Like so I just finally woke up one 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: day I was like, I'm going to America's third largest city. 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: It's just I had never set foot in the place 36 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to go. I actually have some friends 37 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: from New York that have moved there permanently and and 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: love it is one of those rare places where New 39 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Yorkers sometimes will say that, you know, they've found their 40 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: their forever home and uh and they like it better 41 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: some of them sometimes. And I asked everybody, as you know, 42 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: and I got all these great recommendations, and I've even 43 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: got the official social media accounts of different restaurants and things. 44 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: Time to go check it out. So it's fun to 45 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: have the reach that we do play on this show. 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: But there are also a whole lot of people who 47 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: are writing make sure you bring a bulletproof vest, make 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: sure you go armed, watch out, keep your head on 49 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: a swivel. And I'm sitting here, first of all, I'm 50 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: from New York City. Okay, it's not it's I'm not 51 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: coming from you know, eastern Montana where there hasn't been 52 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: a homicide in twenty years or something like this is 53 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: this is a I'm a guy who worked for the NYPD. 54 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: I'll be all right, but it is. It is frustrating 55 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: because the crime situation in the country right now in 56 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: major cities is bad. It has gotten a lot worse, 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: and we should look at why, and we should look 58 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: at why going into this midterm election before we dive 59 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: into what do you what do you think the primary 60 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: reason is, why do Why am I being told that 61 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: I need to go armed, I need to go strapped 62 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: into Chicago? Nine hundred shootings plus actually it's a little 63 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 1: over nine hundred shootings, over a hundred of those dead. 64 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: It's not even halfway into the year. The city only 65 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: has two and a half million people. And this is 66 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: playing out in different ways in New York and Phoenix, 67 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: in la in Portland, and you know, name a city 68 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: in Atlantic, all over the place. Miami actually does not 69 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: have a huge increase in homicides the last couple of years. 70 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: Something else that I looked up recently, Clay, we got 71 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: to fix this. So how does the country fix this? 72 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: What we need to do? It's it's a good question. 73 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: And I was looking reading the Wall Street Journal yesterday, 74 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: and for gun murders, we hit a high that went 75 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: all the way back to nineteen ninety four in twenty twenty. 76 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: And if you look at the graphics of annual deaths 77 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: by homicide per hundred thousand people, it's skyrocketed in twenty twenty, 78 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: and the numbers have gone up pretty substantially since twenty sixteen. 79 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: What happened? BLM, all right? I mean, this is the truth, 80 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: and it's it's an inconvenient truth that a lot of 81 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: left wingers don't want to acknowledge that lots of people 82 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: who consider themselves quote unquote mainstream journalists that aren't allied 83 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: with either position, Buck, the data does not lie with 84 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: the rise of the BOM movement. Thousands of otherwise would 85 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: be still alive today. Black people who were to a 86 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: large extent being protected by police officers who are white, Black, 87 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: Asian and Hispanic have been kept from doing their job. 88 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: And the murder rate and the shooting rate has skyrocketed. 89 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: And you can't argue against this anymore, right, What did 90 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: they say for a long time, Oh, it's because of 91 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: the pandemic. But when you actually looked at the data 92 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, the COVID numbers were way down because 93 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: people were staying home in March, in April and May. 94 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: These murder rates skyrocketed starting with the George Floyd protests, 95 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: and they have continued to skyrocket all over the country, 96 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: new records unfortunately being set for murders in many different communities, 97 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: lots of cities where people are listening to us right now, Buck, 98 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: And they still try to argue a variety of different things. 99 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: I saw somebody the other day say, well, this is 100 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: one of the costs of inflation. It's like, one of 101 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: the cost of inflation is a rising murder rate. I 102 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: don't know that I buy into this at all. And 103 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: they're looking for any possible explanation other than the one 104 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: that is staring us right in the face, which is 105 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: when you demonize police officers, people pay with their lives 106 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: who would otherwise have been protected by those police officers. 107 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: And there's a part of me that just feels frustration. 108 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: And you know, we're Americans. We have pride in our 109 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: in our country and in our major cities, and it's 110 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: it's sad to me when I'm when I'm going to 111 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: a major city. I know we've got Chicagoans. We're listening now, 112 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: And I understand some of this is people just being 113 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: a little provocative, but the Chicago does have a reputation 114 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: now because of all the shootings that are happening there, 115 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: and the Democrat who runs the city, the mayor, Lawry Lightfoot, 116 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: and the Democrats who run all these other cities are failing. 117 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: And the corporations that spent millions and millions, over one 118 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, bending the knee and begging forgiveness of 119 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: the BLM movement should know that their money did It's 120 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: not only that they did not help. That the BLM 121 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: movement failed to help. The BLM movement made things worse, 122 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: and and that has to we have to have I 123 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: know they don't want to have this argument that I 124 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: wanted this debate, but Clay, instead of us just relying 125 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: on the narrative, I can turn to or rather a 126 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: battle of narratives. I can turn to this excellent we 127 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: like we gotta get Barry Weiss on the show. Fantastic 128 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: work on her substack. She has a guest writer she 129 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: often does, Zach Kriegman. I criticized BLM. This is Zach 130 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: Kriegman's piece. I criticized BLM. Then I was fired, and 131 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: as I was reading this, this is one of the 132 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: reasons I sent it to you. This guy Clay is 133 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: the Reuters chief data scientists. Now Reuters it provides the 134 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: news feed that a lot of other news organizations rely 135 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: on as their news ticker. And so the narrative power 136 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: of Reuters and the Associated Press even exceeds what you 137 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: may have from some of the better known You know 138 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: the the other media entities out there, right, Yes, but 139 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: I was thinking about you because this guy, he's not 140 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: one of us in terms of his Ideologi's not a conservative. 141 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: But he's looking at the numbers and he's looking at 142 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: what BLM is saying is happening and what is really happening, 143 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: and he crunched all the data, and I just to 144 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: to cut to the chase here. You've already found out 145 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: that in a use of force situation where there could 146 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: be any discussion about a police officer using lethal force, 147 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: white Americans were more likely to be shot than black 148 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: Americans in similar situations and circumstances. His data findings aligned 149 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: almost exactly with Professor Fryer at Harvard. You've brought this 150 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: study up before, who also found that white Americans in 151 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: a use of force situation with police are more likely 152 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: to be shot. Now we could discuss why that is 153 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: in perception, Clay, what do you what do you think 154 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: happens when he puts that finding on the internal chat 155 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: board of Reuters. It's not acceptable because it conflicts with 156 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: the narrative. Let's start there, and there are going to 157 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: be oftentimes there's lots of people listening to us, who 158 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: would think about this inside of their company. Even when 159 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: you're sharing raw data, even when you are just sharing 160 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: what the data shows, you are in danger of being 161 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: called racist, right, and most people are fearful of doing this. 162 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: I've said it before, bucket, but bears repeating. Over half 163 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: of all murders in America are committed by black men. 164 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: Black men represent around six or seven percent of the 165 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: United States population. So you are talking. This is facts, 166 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: It's not racism. Is direct factual evidence. Over half of 167 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: all murders are committed by around six or seven percent 168 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: of the population, even smaller than that, honestly, because most 169 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: murders are committed by men. And we sometimes have fun 170 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: with this data. Right in terms of sex because if 171 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: you were to say, oh, the police are overwhelmingly sexist 172 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: because they only arrest men by and large four violent crimes. 173 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: Why aren't women being arrested in proportion to their population, Well, 174 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: people would say, well, men are more violent, so police 175 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: are having to interact with them more. So if you 176 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: you're hard to make a sexism argument there, people laugh 177 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: at you. Why can't you look at the raw data 178 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: and say, police buy and large are responding to violent criminals. 179 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: A eighty eight year old Hispanic woman is probably not 180 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: going to end up in a violent interaction with a 181 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: police officer. A sixteen year old white kid might, right, 182 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: because age and sex factor into a large degree in 183 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: terms of the overall criminal population. But you can't talk 184 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: about that in some of these corporations. So tell us 185 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: what happened to this guy who looked at the numbers 186 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: shared the factual data inside of Reuters, which is ostensibly, 187 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: we should say, a neutral news organization. It's not like 188 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: we're talking about MSNBC, right, supposed to just be justified. Yet, yes, 189 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: Rutters is supposed to be the gold standard of journalism, 190 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: as journalism is meant to be. And of course if 191 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: you believe that, you know, I got a bridge to 192 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: sell you in the middle of nowhere. But this is 193 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: what happened. He got fed to the diversity and inclusion 194 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: in hr machinery. And as I've said before, you hunt 195 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: for Red October, you've seen it right, great, yeah, yeah, yeah. 196 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: The first person that Sean Connery when he's Ramius takes 197 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: out is the political commissar. Because this was a real 198 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: practice in the Soviet Union. There were people, whether it 199 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: was on the factory floor or in the front line 200 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: of a military unit. Their only job was to monitor 201 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: the conversations and the political fealty of other people than 202 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: the Soviet Union. Essentially, you better say the Communist Party 203 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: is great and our leadership is amazing, or you're going 204 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: to end up in the Gulag straight up. In a 205 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: different context with different severity, but similar mentality, diversity and inclusion. 206 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: HR departments are kind of like the commissars. They're there 207 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: to make sure you say what you're supposed to say, 208 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: or you get fired. This guy starts having the meetings. 209 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: They say it was provocative, They say what he posted 210 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: was antagonistic. He said, well can I who says that? 211 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: Can I? Can I actually sit and have a conversation 212 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: with whomever in HR says that they say no. Someone 213 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: said this was the favorite comment that I saw, just 214 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: and how crazy it was. My unwillingness. This is one 215 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: of his colleagues who wrote on the chat, Clay, my 216 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: unwillingness to engage with you doesn't signal the strength of 217 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: your argument. If someone says that KKK did lots of 218 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: good things for the community, prove me wrong. I'm not 219 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: obligated to do so end quote. So this is how 220 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: they handle it. He puts up data and they say, 221 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: we won't engage with your data because it would be 222 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: like saying that KKK did good things. The argument is 223 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: so stupid and so intellectually embarrassing. And you know what 224 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: they did after all this, they fired him six years 225 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: at Reuters, fired for sharing data in an internal chat thread. 226 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: No one says the data is wrong, no one questioned 227 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: the actual numbers not allowed. That's the country we're in now. 228 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: And by the way, he points out back to our 229 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: initial premise here on BLM clay that the narrative of 230 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: police are killing all these people with no cause except 231 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: racism has resulted in a lot of people, particularly are 232 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: disproportionately black people dying who would not have died BLM. 233 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: I believe this. The BLM protests have likely led to 234 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: thousands of additional black lives. And again this data point 235 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: is important. 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Biden is holding an event today. 264 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: Press not going to be there, but they'll give a 265 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: read out to the press on the baby formula shortage. 266 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: He's going to be speaking with retailers and manufacturers. Apparently 267 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: that's from the White House, but there's something else going 268 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: on here. Biden administration shipping palettes of baby formula to 269 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: the border. That's the town Hall piece. It's up at 270 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: clayannebuck dot com right now from Katie Pavlich, who joins 271 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: us right now from Foxnews. She's at Townhall dot com 272 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: columnists as well. Katie, great to have you on the program. 273 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: Hey guys, thanks so much for having me tell us 274 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: about this one. Because we had a Katie, we could 275 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: have taken phone calls for the whole show yesterday from 276 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: just anxious and pretty furious parents who are scrambling to 277 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: get baby formula. You're a piece in town Hall. Lets 278 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: everybody know that well, there's no problem with baby formula 279 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: at the southern border. What's going on? Yeah, so publican 280 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: congressing Tachamic had a god Patrol agent contact her, sending 281 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: her photos of stock shelves inside a Border Patrol processing 282 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: facility with baby formula and told her that there are 283 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: palettes of baby formula that have been delivered to these 284 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: processing centers. So while shelves in the stores across America 285 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: are bear and parents are driving hours and hours to 286 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: find formula for their children, the federal government clearly has 287 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: some kind of contract to buy up the limited supply 288 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: and deliver it not to those stores, but to processing 289 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: centers on the southern border. So this of course brings 290 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: up two issues. The first is that the crisis that 291 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: the southern border is a man made Biden administration problem, 292 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: And as we dig further into the regions behind this 293 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: baby formula shortage, it's clear that that's also another Biden 294 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: administration federal government problem, with the FDA shutting down a 295 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: major plant that did not re opening it, putting it, 296 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: wrapping it in a bunch of red tape. And now, 297 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: of course there's a limited supply and much of that 298 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: is now going to solve the crisis on the border 299 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: with people coming across with their children, who of course 300 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: still need to be fed as well. So it's infuriating. 301 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: It's frustrating. Parents are, you know, wondering where the next 302 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: case of that is going to come for their family. 303 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: And there seems to be plenty available for people who 304 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: broke the lots get into the country, but not enough 305 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: available for people who are citizens of the country. Okay, 306 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: it's great work by you, and it also shines the 307 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: light on how little attention is being played paid to 308 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: the border that it might take a baby formulas shortage 309 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: and therefore baby formula being shipped to the border for 310 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: many in the media actually cover anything there. As we 311 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: are talking right now, I just got an alert sent 312 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: to my phone from the Wall Street Journal and the 313 00:17:54,560 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: headline is baby formulas shortage could last four months. In 314 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: other words, this is not something that is going to 315 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: leave anytime soon. They are now limiting how much parents 316 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: can buy inside of stores when they actually find baby 317 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: formula there, Katie, we know from the pandemic. Unfortunately a 318 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: lot of us experienced this. When there is a fear 319 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: of a shortage in a product, it actually exacerbates the 320 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: shortage because when people find it, they buy more of 321 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: it than they other would otherwise would How does this 322 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: get fixed for so many moms and dads out there 323 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: that are trying desperately to find baby formula all over 324 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: the country. Well, the FDA could work to get this 325 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: major plant back open after there was a recall. It 326 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: spen months now. They keep saying they want it to 327 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: be safe for our parents and babies. Obviously everybody wants 328 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: that to be true, but they keep throwing up these 329 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: roadblocks to reopen this plant. It supplies the country with 330 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: something like fifty percent of the baby formula. Also, I 331 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: would note that yesterday the incoming Press Secretary, Korean Jean Pierre, 332 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: whose first day starts tomorrow. She's currently the Deputy Press Secretary, 333 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: was asked specifically about how the Biden administration is working 334 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: to manage this crisis as it gets worse. She gave 335 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: you a paragraph worth of statements about how they're working 336 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: at twenty four to seven, how they're looking at all 337 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: the options, the usual bureaucratic speak, and then when their 338 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: follow up question was asked about who exactly is handling 339 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: the situation, she literally laughed out loud and said that 340 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: she did not know we played that audio. That's a problem. 341 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: So they're claiming that they're dealing with this issue. I'm 342 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: wondering where Pee Buddha judge is at this point. And 343 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, st Our government could do a lot when 344 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: it comes to commerce and figuring out how to look 345 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: at these contracts maybe that are going to the border 346 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: and maybe limit the number of baby formula pallets that 347 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: are sent to there before they're sent to American stores 348 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: across the country. There's a couple of different options they have, 349 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: but we haven't heard much about it. We're speaking to 350 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: Katie Pavlich, editor at townhall dot com. FI News contributor. Katie, 351 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: I know you spent a lot of time down at 352 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: the border and have a lot of contacts in border patrol, immigrations, 353 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: and customs enforcement. What are you hearing from them about 354 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: what's going to go on here with the title forty 355 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: two revocation which supposed to happen here in a couple 356 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: of weeks. I know there's a judge that's involved at 357 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: this stage, but also given the number that just came 358 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: out yesterday, one hundred and seven thousand overdoses, mostly fentonel 359 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: and most of that vast majority of that's coming across 360 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: the border illegally feels like there's renewed urgency to get 361 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: this right. What are your border patrol contacts and folks 362 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: telling you. Look, they're saying basically, border patrol has been 363 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: turned into a processing agency, and Immigration and Customs Enforcement 364 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: has been turned into a travel agency. The administration's response 365 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: to Title forty two getting taken off in the estimates 366 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: of eighteen thousand people a day crossing the border is 367 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: not to deter people from coming, to put up barriers 368 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: to entry. It's to open up new processing centers so 369 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: they can process these people through and then give them 370 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: the plane ticket to wherever they want to go. That's 371 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: the solution that they're they're offering here, and board control 372 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: is terrible morale at this point. You know, their job 373 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: and their mission is to protect the homeland from foreign 374 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: threats from drug traffickers, as you mentioned, from human trackers, 375 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: from human smugglers. But this administration's policies have been to 376 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: simply process thousands of people through the system and to 377 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: let them go into the country. It's it's kind of 378 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,479 Speaker 1: like having a roof a leak in your roof. And 379 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: putting out a bucket, and then as the bucket fills 380 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: up and the leak gets bigger, they just add a 381 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: couple of buckets. So that's what they're doing. They're going 382 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: to open up new processing centers. They're going to put 383 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: people in the front of the line for Title forty 384 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: two processing in terms of the court system, making the 385 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: backlog even worse. So that's where we're headed as a 386 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: result of this, Katie, when we talk about how baby 387 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: formulas shortages and the board order being a sieve and 388 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: inflation at eight point five or eight point three percent, 389 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: you've got obviously murder rate skyrocketing everywhere. You're really smart, 390 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: You're good at communication skills. If Joe Biden came to 391 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: you and he said, Katie, I need you to make 392 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: a pitch for something that I've done really well so 393 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: far in my presidency nearly eighteen months, buck and I 394 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: are fairly smart guys. We can't even come up with 395 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: a pitch for Joe Biden. As we get closer to 396 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: the mid terms, I'm not talking about the abortion angle. 397 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: What has Joe Biden actually done well? Can you even 398 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 1: I mean, then it truly is incomprehensible how bad he 399 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: has been, even for people who expected and I think 400 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: Buck and I are in this camp that you are too, 401 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: that it wasn't going to be good. But I don't 402 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: think any of us expected him to be this bad. 403 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: Could you even point to anything that hasn't been a 404 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: disaster for him? Well, no, I mean his pitch is 405 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: not to the entire country as he promised, mister Unification. 406 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: His pitches to the far left of his party. He's 407 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: controlled by the far left of his party. If you 408 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: look at the move they made yesterday to stop the 409 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 1: leasing in Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico, you know 410 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: they think that that is a pitch to the base, 411 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: hoping that the base gets out to admit in mid terms, 412 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: because midterm elections are base elections, and that's who he's 413 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: pitching too, that's who he wants to talk to, that's 414 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: who he's communicated to. So if you see it from 415 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: that perspective, you know, there are a number of far 416 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: left policies that he's implemented that he would see as 417 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: a success, that they would see as a success. But 418 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: for the rest of the country, it has been a 419 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: complete and total disaster. It's like you look at those 420 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: foals that show. You know, do you think that Joe 421 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 1: Biden is doing a good job? And like thirty percent 422 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: of the country still says yes. And you wonder who 423 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: those people are. Well, if that's the far left of 424 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: the base that thinks that these things that he's doing 425 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: are good for the country or like a cleaning up 426 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: of whatever they think that Trump did, And that's who 427 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: he's speaking too. He's not speaking to the entire country. 428 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: We've got Katie's peace linked up at Clayinbuck dot com 429 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: on plenty of formulat the board, but not for all 430 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: the rest of the American people. Katie, thanks so much 431 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: for being with us. Come back soon, Thanks guys, I will, 432 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: thanks so much. Yes, another month more bad news on 433 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: the cost of living and inflation. You know it, we 434 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: know it. We're talking about it here every day because 435 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: it's a big problem. 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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, 461 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: appreciate all of you hanging out with us rolling through 462 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: the Thursday edition of the program, and yesterday we brought 463 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: you the news that the Democrat attempt to enshrine Robie 464 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: Wade in a Senate vote had failed because Joe Mansion 465 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: failed on his Democrat colleagues, and so by a fifty 466 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: one to forty nine vote, that attempt by Chuck Schumer failed. 467 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: But as a part of that failure, we're already starting 468 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: to see the argument now be made, Buck, of this 469 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: is not only about abortion. It's going to spread beyond abortion. 470 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: And during the commercial break, I was reading the Washington Post. 471 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: They are doing direct agenda based journalism. Buck. They have 472 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: got Washington Post reporters obsessively calling every video game company 473 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: to find out what their policy is going to be, 474 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: what their statement is going to be in the event 475 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: that rov Wade is overturned. This, of course, is not journalism. 476 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: It's a pressure mounted campaign to try to get all 477 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: of these companies to issue woke statements relating to abortion. Meanwhile, 478 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: so far, most companies seem to be avoiding making these comments. 479 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: And what is this telling us? What are we learning 480 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: from this obsession coming from the leak from Justice Alito's 481 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: potential opinion? I Remember, it still hasn't even occurred, potential 482 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: of opinion overturning it. It's that rove way by itself 483 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: isn't enough. There has to be more associated with it. 484 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: So this was Chuck Schumer after the Senate failed to 485 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: advance what they were calling the Women's Health Protection Act. 486 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: Here in cut nine, he says and follows along what 487 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: we talked about yesterday, the slippery slope argument of contraception 488 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: is next. To listen to Schumer's litany of what's to 489 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: come in the wake of this opinion we took makes 490 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: crystal clear. The contrast between the parties as we approach 491 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: the midterm elections. Vote elect more pro choice Democrats. If 492 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: you want to see a woman have control over her 493 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: own body, elect more pro choice Democrats. If you want 494 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: to protect a woman's freedom and right to choose, elect 495 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: more Magarepublicans. If you want to see a nationwide ban 496 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: on abortion, if you want to see doctors and women arrested, 497 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: if you want to see no exceptions for rape or insects. 498 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: So far that has not come to fruition anywhere. Right, 499 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: that's the slippery slope argument. But Buck, what you're seeing 500 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: actually is that Democrats have enshrined that they believe abortion 501 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: should be legal up to and including the ninth month 502 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: of pregnancy, which is a radical proposition that is overwhelmingly 503 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: rejected by the vast majority of the American public. But 504 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: this campaign is underway. This Washington Post journalism, I'm putting 505 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: it in a quotation mark of calling a company and 506 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: wanting to know what they're going to potentially be doing, 507 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: and then writing about a failure to act, which is 508 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: what they did in the newspaper is advocacy, direct and straightforward, 509 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: and this is all part of the campaign that is 510 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: underway to define this Alito opinion. I think they're just 511 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: trying to mobilize corporate America the way that they did 512 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: with the which we just talked about in the last hour. 513 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: They're expecting the same genuflection and begging for forgiveness from 514 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: corporate America now and then there's also a lot in 515 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: corporate America who would they're just open advocates for this, 516 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: a lot of major companies. But the difference is with BLM. 517 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: In the initial days, I think there was a bit 518 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: of there was a moral panic, but there was also 519 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: a sense of, well, maybe this is a time for 520 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: a conversation. Half the country doesn't want to have a 521 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: conversation about whether or not women should be able to 522 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: abort babies for all nine months of a pregnancy. They 523 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: want this to stop. They've wanted wanted this to stop 524 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: for a long time. They've wanted this to stop for decades. 525 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: They've set up organizations, They've raised a lot of money, 526 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: they've been engaged in advocacy. They've been helping women who 527 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: are who are unplanned pregnancy, setting upon planned pregnancy centers 528 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: for women to have babies. There's been a lot that's 529 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 1: been going on here. So this isn't just one side 530 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: gets to have their argument and no one else is 531 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: going to stand athwart them and say we'll hold on 532 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: a second, as that was the case remember with BLM. Nobody. 533 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there are very few people who are willing 534 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: to say early on, I will say that I was 535 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: among them that this was not going to help, This 536 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: was a bad idea, This is rooted in lies on 537 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: this issue. I think that they underestimate the strength and 538 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: the um and and the solidity. Is that a word 539 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: um of the I think it's a word of the 540 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: pro life movement and how it's been waiting for this 541 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: moment in time to now take it to the states. 542 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: You notice the panic among the Democrats rats is, oh 543 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: my gosh, what if people can vote on this? Yeah? 544 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: What if? What if states actually have to deal with 545 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: the intricacies and the gray areas and the differences in opinion. 546 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: The Democrats need this cover, this fig leaf, this fiction 547 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: of row, and now they want it at a federal level. 548 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: Think about how obtuse this thinking is as well. When 549 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: Republicans come into a majority, they can just remove You're 550 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: gonna have a federal law that is saying you have 551 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: this right. No, you don't have this right. That's going 552 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: to ping pong back and forth depending on who's in charge. No, 553 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: states make, you know, very clear determinations somehow, Clay, We've 554 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: we've lived in a world where you know, I go 555 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: in and I go buy a handgun in the state 556 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: of Texas, and I'm enjoying my Second Amendment rights. I 557 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: walk around in the streets with a handgun in New 558 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: York that I haven't run through their special six month 559 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,719 Speaker 1: long anti gun get fingerprinted and treated like a criminal 560 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: before you've done anything system. They're gonna lock me up 561 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: for three years like I'm a bad person. They're leading 562 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: my constitutional rights, but we live with all kinds of 563 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: differences among the states. That's where this is heading, and 564 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: that's where it should have been all along. And I 565 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: just think the Democrats know that their arguments are weak. 566 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: And there's also a sense this is not going to 567 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: be the mobilization. Yeah, of course if you're left wing. 568 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: The people that are outraged about this, the blue haired, 569 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: nose ringed, shrieking banshees outside of Kavanaugh's house and outside 570 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: of Roberts's house, they're all voting Democrat anyway, Clay, I 571 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: really don't now. There will be some people that maybe 572 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: see that things you're you've been talking about the emails, 573 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: that say, oh, it's gonna go after but they're all 574 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: your contraceptive rights, we're gonna take away, exactly. But I 575 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: think there'll also be a lot of people who say, 576 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: hold on a second. Chuck Schumer really believes and we're 577 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: not making it up. He does, and better all Rourke 578 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: and what's the Senate to Tim Ryan from Ohio nine 579 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: months you don't want to have a baby anymore. Doctors 580 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: should take it out of you and kill the baby. 581 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: That is what the Democrats believe people going to realize 582 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: what that actually means too, no doubt, And I think 583 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: that's important to emphasize what actually was voted on. There 584 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: is a totalitarian nature in pro choice abortion rights arguments 585 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: that now requires, buck lest you offend them, that you 586 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: support abortion all the way up to the ninth month 587 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: of pregnancy. That is what they believe. That is what 588 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: they voted on yesterday. That's what forty nine Democrats affixed 589 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: their name to. What's interesting to me associated with that 590 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,479 Speaker 1: is the pro life movement actually has a variety of 591 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: different perspectives within it. Right. Some people out there do 592 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: believe that there shouldn't be any exemptions at all. That's 593 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: your right to have that opinion right for religious based reasons, 594 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: whatever they may be. Other people, and I would put 595 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: myself in this category, believe that contraception should be widely available, 596 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: and some people disagree with that, but I'm in that 597 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: category in terms of what the line should be for 598 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: rape incest, for how many weeks abortions should be available, 599 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: if at all. There's a wide variety of perspectives. The 600 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: reason why I bring this up is I think there 601 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: is a tendency to treat pro choice people in the 602 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: media certainly as if they are more of a reasonable group. 603 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: Think about this nine month pregnancy abortions. That is murder. 604 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: That is now the position of the Democrat Party and 605 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: it is one that if you are running. If you 606 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: know jd Vance is running up against Tim Ryan in Ohio, 607 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: Tim Ryan is trying to say, hey, I'm a moderate 608 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: for the Democrat Party running in the state of Ohio. 609 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 1: It ain't moderate, buck to believe that a nine month 610 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: pregnant woman can decide to do away with her abortion, 611 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 1: and that needs to be You need to get everybody 612 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: on the record in the midterms who is out there 613 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: do you support a woman's right to have an abortion 614 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: in the ninth month, because you know what, if that 615 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: woman was shot and the baby died, most of our 616 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: criminal statutes would call that a double murder, as they 617 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: will almost everywhere out there. And as they're pointing out, 618 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we need we need to take a moment 619 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: here and really think about this. As a country. Prominent Democrats, 620 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: really the most powerful Democrats in the country, are arguing 621 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: for a legal right to what is obvious infanticide, full stop. 622 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: Nine month babies. They could be born at any moment. 623 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: Everybody who's gone through a pregnancy has had a baby nose. 624 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: You get to seven, eight, nine months, you get to 625 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: nine months, that baby can come in any moment, full 626 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: on infanticide, pretending it's a constitutional right, pretending it's a 627 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: moral right, pretending this is somehow about women controlling their bodies. 628 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: They aren't saying, hold on, let's let's have a national 629 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: conversation about difficult things. They're they're advocating for savagery, full 630 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,479 Speaker 1: on savagery. That is what they're actually publicly demanding right now, 631 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: something that we would have. You know, if you're looking 632 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: at a at a previous society. I think I mentioned 633 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: this before. You know, the Aztecs, a pre modern you know, 634 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: pre discovery by by the West society that used to 635 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: have massive human sacrifice, and we look at that, we say, well, 636 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: that's that's so awful. They thought they had some reason 637 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: for that, whether it was to appease some gods or whatever. 638 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: Our reason is, effectively, according to democrats, convenience. It is inconvenient. 639 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: You had You've had Janet Yellen say you know, hey, 640 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: it's it's really we need to make sure people can 641 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: abort babies, because you know, babies are expensive, and it's 642 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: and it's hard, and it's particularly difficult for low income 643 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: and minority communities. That's an immoral position she's advocating for. 644 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: I mean, people's jaws should be dropping. I do think 645 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: we need to have something of a moral awakening in 646 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: this country. You know, we want to have a conversation 647 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 1: about you know, when does life begin and what legal 648 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 1: protections for you know, week one and week four. That 649 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: is I think going to happen, and that should happen 650 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: at a political level. That should be something that goes on. 651 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: If we can't agree that a baby's a baby at 652 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 1: nine months, what can we agree on? Think about this 653 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: analogy buck woman goes into the hospital, headed to a 654 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: hospital at nine months pregnant. Man, before she can go 655 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 1: into the hospital, jumps out and pummels her in her stomach, 656 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 1: leading for her to lose a baby. That's a vile, awful, 657 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: unbelievable crime to be committed, and most people would say 658 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: that man should go to the prison for the rest 659 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: of his life. Woman walks into the hospital and decides 660 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: to have that baby aborted. People are totally fine with 661 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: that occurring in the Democrat party right now. When I 662 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 1: think about how crazy that is, just that that that 663 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: difference between somebody assaults a pregnant woman and she loses 664 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: her baby, that man goes to prison for the rest 665 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: of his life. I'm not a big direct attack. I'm 666 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: not a big advocate for saying, well, what does the 667 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: rest of the world do on a whole range of things, 668 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: although sometimes it's interesting. The rest of the world gets 669 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: to have secure borders to the degree they can and 670 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,479 Speaker 1: not be considered racist or xenophobic like every other every 671 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: other industrial country, modern country gets to try to control 672 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: its borders, and that's not But on this issue on abortion, 673 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: you look at what the rest of the world believes. 674 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: America is only aligned in terms of what the Democrat 675 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: Party pushes for with China, which created, of course the 676 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,959 Speaker 1: one child policy and forced sterilization, forced sterilization and North 677 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: Korea for countries that have open concentration camps and to 678 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: this day and the United States are Democrats, of course 679 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: are the ones that advocate for this abortion for all 680 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: nine months of a pregnancy. There's no it doesn't get 681 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: more morally clear than this. Actually, like this part of 682 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: the discussion there, which is I think why Democrats are, 683 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 1: so they're enraged, they're overemotional that they because they don't 684 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: want to actually think it through. They want to shout 685 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: slogans and live in a land of make believe where 686 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: they haven't been advocating for evil for a very long time, 687 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: and they have been. And this is something that they 688 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: all need to go on the record for. 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Rob, I'm gonna tee up early here with 729 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: a lot of the topics that we've been discussing so 730 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: far today and over the past couple of days. What 731 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: do you think about US spending forty billion dollars on 732 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: Ukraine while we can't even get baby formula on the 733 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: shelves in this country for moms and dads running around 734 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: trying to feed their young kids. Not only do I 735 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: think that this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever 736 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: heard and the most absurd thing that I've ever heard, 737 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 1: It's one of those things that actually makes me angry. 738 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: It makes me physically angry when I found out that 739 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: this was happening, and when I think about this, and 740 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: when you think about forty billion dollars being sent to 741 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: the Ukraine while you said, like you said, they have 742 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: baby formula shortages, while people are struggling paying more, paying 743 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: more for groceries paying more for gas. It's outrageous and 744 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 1: it makes me absolutely angry, and I need to make 745 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: a point right here now. You know, a lot of 746 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 1: people I'm conservative identified myself, you know, I vote Republican 747 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: all that stuff, but a lot of people really do 748 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: like to think that this is just something that comes 749 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: from the left. There's something that comes from a couple 750 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 1: of people on the right. And I think what people 751 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: need to realize sometimes that there is a uniparty in Washington, 752 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: DC that is united on this stuff. When we have 753 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: only a couple of bold and brave congress people that 754 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: are bold enough to vote against US stuff. Rob you know, 755 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: there's also a real concern and I'm seeing it starts 756 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: to speaking of the UNI Party not just on the 757 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:08,280 Speaker 1: spending front, but when it also comes to foreign policy, interventionism, 758 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: getting involved in things more than the American people actually want. 759 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: We're hearing a lot more now from Democrats and from 760 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: Republicans about how Ukraine is an opportunity to bleed Russia, 761 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: or Ukraine is an opportunity to offset, you know, Russia's 762 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: ambitions in the region. And they even will say things like, 763 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: you know, we're we're at war or we're close to 764 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: war with Russia and Ukraine. I think that there has 765 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: somehow been a mission creep that has happened, and very 766 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 1: few people have noticed this, and it really is concerning. 767 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 1: As we all know, Putin has thousands of nuclear weapons. Yes, absolutely, 768 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 1: And the thing that I hate about this book is 769 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: that you have all of these shicken hawks right coming 770 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: from DC and they're talking tough about Russia and Putin 771 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: and all this stuff. Most of these people have not serve. 772 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 1: Most of these people do not know anybody that are serving. 773 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: Most of these people do not have family members that 774 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: have served. So you have a lot of people talking 775 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: this very tough talk when it comes to Russia. And 776 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: like you said, you know this is a nuclear power, 777 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: and this is something that really irritates me. Is something 778 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: that is very concerning how sort of casually these people 779 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: are ramping up this rhetoric and pushing us into this war. Now, 780 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure. Now, Russia has always been an 781 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: adversary of ours, I definitely get that, but I am 782 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,720 Speaker 1: not entirely sure when it became our responsibility to send 783 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: all of these billions of dollars to Ukraine and try 784 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: to leave them to sort of launch this offensive against Russia. 785 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 1: And so we have people talking about no fly zones, 786 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: we have people talking about this tough talk against Russia. 787 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: It is absolutely insane to me where we are going 788 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: through the toughest times that we have seen in years 789 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: right here at home. But you got to understand, and 790 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: I go back to the swamp and I go back 791 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: to the uniparty. These people do not care about the 792 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,439 Speaker 1: average working American. What these people care about is making 793 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: their donors happy. What these people care about is continuing 794 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: to fund the war machine. What these people care about 795 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: is continuing to see their stocks go higher and higher 796 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 1: and higher. When they use their positions to sort of 797 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,959 Speaker 1: bring up this rhetoric a lot rob We saw Dave 798 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: Chappelle get attacked on the stage in LA a couple 799 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and then the DA in LA decided 800 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: not to charge his attacker with the felony. There's been 801 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: a lot of discussions, certainly with Dave Chappelle, about the 802 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: trans universe as it compares to the gay world and 803 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 1: all of that. What do you think about kind of 804 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: the unholy alliance that exists right now when you see 805 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: all of the discussions about teaching kids who are first 806 00:45:55,160 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 1: grade about transgender related issues. How in the LBGE larger community, 807 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 1: how much conversation is going on, how much agreement is 808 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: they're on issues like these in the trans universe. Well, 809 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: the thing about it is there's not like, you know, 810 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: you guys will know. I'm a gay dude myself. I 811 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,760 Speaker 1: don't identify with the lgbt QIA or any of that stuff. 812 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 1: So what's going on here is twofold. First of all, 813 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 1: you have gays and lesbians in America right now that 814 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: have basically the rights that you know, they have taught 815 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: for for decades and decades and decades. We're talking about 816 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: don't assaltell repeal, being able to serve openly in the military. 817 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 1: We're talking about the rights to get married. Fine, Now, 818 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: what the radical trans agenda has done is it has 819 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: latched itself to the very powerful organization that existed to 820 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: advocate for gay rights and have done so for decades, 821 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: and so gays and lesbians don't even exist anymore to 822 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: these people. They're talking about trans, they're talking about q 823 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: they're talking about one hundred different genders. They're talking about 824 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: literally transitioning. You know, kids that are as young as five, six, 825 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: seven years old. And so that has a lot to 826 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: do with the fact that we are seeing thanks to 827 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: the work of places like Libs of TikTok, where you 828 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: see these people have infiltrated the public school system in 829 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: the agenda that they're pushing to these kids has nothing 830 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: to do with gay and lesbian and everything to do 831 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: with this sort of radical gender ideology that has taken 832 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 1: over that entire movement. Like I say, guys, this has 833 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: nothing to do with the average gay and lesbian American 834 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 1: who just wants to live their lives in existent peace. 835 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: And this has everything to do with a very very 836 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: very far left sort of transgender gender identity cult ideology 837 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,919 Speaker 1: that has taken over that entire movement to the point 838 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,359 Speaker 1: we're most saying gays and lesbians do not even want 839 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 1: to be involved with it anymore. Speaking of Rob Smith, 840 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 1: he's a Iraq war veteran political commentator. It's got a 841 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: new podcast that just launched yesterday. Can't cancel Rob Smith, 842 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: but you can listen to them, and you should. You 843 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: should check it out. Rob. I'm just wondering before before 844 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 1: I let you go, Clay and I have a ongoing 845 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: discussion and we're just we are so curious that I know, 846 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: maybe it sounds like we're just a bunch of guys 847 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: sitting around, you know, smoking cigars, trying to figure out 848 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 1: the trajectory of the Democrat Party's politics. It is, it 849 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 1: is kind of a fun game to play. But Biden 850 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,959 Speaker 1: runs again? How do they run him again? Given what's 851 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 1: going on? But they can't run Kamala because nobody would 852 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: vote for Kamala And they can't replace Kamala with may 853 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 1: or Pete because that would look good. And if they 854 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 1: brought Hillary out of quasi retirement, I mean, what do 855 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: you think happens? We go back and forth on this 856 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: all all the time. How do you think this shakes out? 857 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: I do not think that Biden runs again at the 858 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: top of the thinking. Here's the thing. As of right now, 859 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,359 Speaker 1: they're doing a very good job at hiding Biden. Right 860 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,959 Speaker 1: so we see if you're a concerned doing in person 861 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: or somebody that is just very anti Biden, we see 862 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: all of them as times we see him struggling with 863 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 1: the teleprompter. Is we see him, you know, not knowing 864 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 1: where he is half the time. They cannot take that 865 00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 1: out and run that again in a national because then 866 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: everything that we've been talking about, the vast majority of 867 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,839 Speaker 1: the public is gonna see now. They also cannot run 868 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,320 Speaker 1: Kamala at the top of the ticket as well, because 869 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 1: she is so deeply unlikable. She couldn't get past one 870 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: percent when she was running. I think honestly that Mayor 871 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 1: Pete is playing his cards right. I think that he 872 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: will be on the ticket at some point. They're gonna 873 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 1: have to find something to do with Kamala Harris. But 874 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,840 Speaker 1: I do not believe that either Biden or Kamala Harris 875 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: is gonna be on any part of that ticket in 876 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I do not see that happening. Kamala 877 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: is two weak. She has failed. She is good at 878 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 1: being a politician and bad at every single thing else. 879 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 1: Biden is old, he is weak, he is he now 880 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 1: looking he is ineffectual, and you cannot put that out 881 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 1: in front of the American public in the rigors that 882 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,919 Speaker 1: a presidential campaign would have to sort of get from him. 883 00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 1: I don't see it happening. Rob, fantastic stuff, man. We 884 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:05,359 Speaker 1: appreciate it, all right, Thanks guys. Guys. Interest rates are 885 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: not looking good. 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