1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to Desperately Devoted. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: Think of us as your favorite neighbors as we chat 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: about life and relationships, all. 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 3: While we revisit the iconic show Desperate Housewives together. 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: I'm Terry Hatcher, I'm Andrea Bowen, and I'm Emerson Tenny. Well, 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 2: welcome back, everybody. Welcome back to Desperately Devoted. Today, we 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: are desperately devoted to another person that we're so excited 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: is here on the show today. We have another incredible 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: cast member who I think, more than anyone this season, 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: has deeply surprised us in their character. As we've been rewatching, 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: I think, like many of the other husbands, there's your 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: first first hint on the show. He added so much 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: depth and weight and quality to the storytelling that I, 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: for one, feel like when the show was actually on 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: in its first run, I feel like, in hindsight, the 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: husbands did not get the attention that they deserved, and 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: this person definitely falls into that category. I feel personally 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: so fortunate that I've been able to keep in touch 19 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: with him. He's an incredible actor, an incredible person, and well, 20 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: without further ado, please welcome Ricardo Shevira. 21 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: Yay, thank you for being here. 22 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 4: We're so happy. 23 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 5: It's great to see you guys, and thanks for having me. 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 5: I'm I'm happy to do it very much. 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: So we just have to jump off and just say that, 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: like Carlos more than anyone, I mean, all the husbands 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: really helped tell the story of the journey of all 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: the wives, like you couldn't do it without the handholding 29 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: of both of the people in the couples. Now, our 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: jumping off point has to be how did you get 31 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: involved and how were you cast? And do you have 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: stories about that? I mean, we would love to hear. 33 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: Okay, So I was only out of graduate school. 34 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 5: Let's say I'd finished my graduate training program two thousand, 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 5: So I was only out graduate school like three three 36 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 5: and a half years, and I had booked several really 37 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 5: good jobs, but nothing of this magnitude. And so I 38 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 5: was actually up in Seattle working at Seattle Rep. 39 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: Doing a play that was a the was a co pro. 40 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 4: So it was. 41 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 5: December January doing the play up in Seattle, and then 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 5: like May June July doing it over in Kansas City. 43 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 5: So when I got home to Los Angeles after finishing 44 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 5: it in Seattle, you know, I was kind of settling 45 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 5: back in and pilot season was in full swing and 46 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 5: a buddy of mine was very much a character actor 47 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 5: plays like a lot of like criminal types and things 48 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 5: like that. He shows up to my apartment because he'd 49 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 5: been watching it, and he shows up in a suit, 50 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 5: and I just started. 51 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 4: Laughing and I was like, what job did you not get? 52 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 5: And and he's like, man, whatever, you know, and he's like, actually, 53 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 5: you should read for it. He goes, I think it's 54 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 5: right for you. And it was the Carlos character for Househouse. 55 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 5: So I get it and I read it and I'm like, 56 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 5: he's right, okay. So I call my and they're like, 57 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 5: oh my god, yes, we've we have chased this up 58 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 5: and down. Scott Jenkincher was kind of handling the casting 59 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 5: at the time, along with the Oh god, who was 60 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 5: it Jenny Lewry Johnson's office. 61 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: I think so. 62 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 5: And so they're like, we've pitched this to Scott and 63 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 5: you know, Scott loves you. He gave you your SAG card, 64 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 5: which he tapped hard lead me, like when I first 65 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 5: got to La. So he was like, you know, he 66 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 5: just doesn't think you can be suave enough. 67 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, realting he doesn't think you 68 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: can be. 69 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 5: So and I no, no, no, it's Scott and I 70 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 5: go back and forth on this all the time. 71 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: But it's really interesting, like how I mean, that's just 72 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: I know, we're not like dishing on him or anything, 73 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: but it is interesting how people get it in their 74 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: head about something that you are, and how it often 75 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: falls back in our court that you have to go 76 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: prove somebody different, I think. 77 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 4: So. 78 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 5: I think what it was is a lot of the 79 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 5: things that he had me on auditioning for up until 80 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 5: that point where a lot of like blue collar civil 81 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 5: servant type for you know, like policemen, detectives, things like that, 82 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 5: and this was a character that was, you know, a 83 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 5: very high fluten character, a money kind of guy, you know, 84 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 5: the white collar crime, business sector, all that stuff. Yeah, 85 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 5: and so I think his thought was like, this is 86 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 5: not what Ricardo does. And so when my reps told 87 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 5: me that, I was like, get me the audition, and 88 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 5: they were like, oh, I said, no, no, no, do it. 89 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 4: I have a point to prove. 90 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 5: So they got me an audition and it was on 91 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 5: a Saturday morning, which Terry, I mean, you know, a 92 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 5: Saturday morning audition is the kiss Nobody's showing up. 93 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: My audition was also on a Saturday. I wonder if 94 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: we auditioned on. 95 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 4: Because it was then. 96 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: I had an audition once on a Saturday. My Saturday 97 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: audition was the first movie I ever did, was called 98 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: The Big Picture and it was with Kevin Bacon and 99 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: Christopher Guest was directing it. And on Friday they had 100 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: fired the girl playing my part. They were already shooting, 101 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: and so on Saturday they read like five actresses with 102 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: Heaven Bacon on a Saturday, and then on Monday they 103 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: picked somebody to go to work, and then I went 104 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: to work and started filming, and that's how I got 105 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: that movie, and that was my first movie. But it 106 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: was a Saturday. I never remember anything Ricardo, so I 107 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: don't know why that's. 108 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 4: Well for me. 109 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 5: My experience up to that point had been like the 110 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 5: couple Saturday auditions I had gone to, Like there was 111 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 5: one I went to and nobody even showed up, so 112 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 5: it was just like, okay, you know, so I got 113 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 5: a Saturday audition, great, and I'm not swabbing enough, so 114 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 5: this is going really well for me already. And then 115 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 5: I get there and it's Juny I think it was 116 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 5: Junie Larry Johnson. 117 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: It was JUNI was there in the room, Scott was 118 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 4: in the room. 119 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 5: And Mark Cherry was in the room, and so I 120 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 5: was like, oh, our main person is here on a Saturday. 121 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 5: And so I was like, oh okay, and you know, 122 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 5: I said, okay, well let me present the material. And 123 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 5: I presented the material and Mark's over there looking at 124 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 5: a very old headshot of mine, which I was like, 125 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 5: I just got no headshots. 126 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 4: Why did they have an old head shot? I don't 127 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 4: understand this. And all of a. 128 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 5: Sudden, he just so many things and then he just 129 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 5: kind of looks up and he does this little look 130 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 5: and he's like Ricardo and I just, all of a sudden, 131 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I just got this. 132 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 4: I know, I just booked this role. Yeah, I knew 133 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 4: it right there, Like. 134 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 2: So sad I was, by the way, that was a 135 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: really good impression of him. I could see him sounding 136 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: exactly like, you did it really well. 137 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 5: So so and and then they had the next time 138 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 5: I met with them, and it was a work session 139 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 5: with the director Charles McDougal. 140 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing. 141 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 142 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 5: But here's something that a lot of people don't know, 143 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 5: which is when I went through this when I want 144 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 5: to hear this process. I actually did the entire audition 145 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 5: and I also taped the entire pilot with the Spanish accent. 146 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: Wow, and at what point did that change? 147 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 5: So we shot the whole thing and they were they 148 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 5: were getting ready to we were getting ready to go 149 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 5: into shooting the season, and they made a decision and 150 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 5: Michael Edelstein was part of this. I think he was 151 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 5: the primary on it. They wanted me to come in 152 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 5: and reloop via Adr in all those. 153 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 4: Scenes, and we recorded all the lines. 154 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 5: Without the accent, and Edelstein gave me a call and 155 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 5: he was like, look, it's not that we don't like it. 156 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 5: It's not that we don't think that you can do it. 157 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 5: He's like, but seriously, do you want to do that 158 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 5: for five, six, eight seasons? Should this thing go that far? 159 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 5: He goes, I just don't think that that's a good idea. 160 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 5: He goes, I really think that we should use her 161 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 5: natural voice. 162 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: And so I was like, okay. 163 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: So it was more like, you think it was more 164 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: about the longevity of having to stay in that voice, 165 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: or do you think. 166 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 4: It was I think it was a little bit of that. 167 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 6: I think it was also like, you know, I think 168 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 6: they were just questioning me in general at that point, 169 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 6: like maybe they weren't sure about her. So And it's 170 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 6: kind of funny because I think I remember somebody telling 171 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 6: me that, like it's like you don't really realize how, 172 00:07:58,360 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 6: you know, like on the. 173 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 7: Cutting forward you or like on the on the on 174 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 7: the fence, we were about you like maybe possibly recasting 175 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 7: if I couldn't do this in a natural voice that 176 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 7: they felt suitable for. 177 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 4: The character, you know what I mean. 178 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 8: So, and then on top of it, they set aside, 179 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 8: I think a whole day, eight or ten hours to 180 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 8: do the ad R. And this is like, I mean, 181 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 8: there's significant scenes in the pilot, you know, between you know, 182 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 8: the the Gabby character and my character and my mixing 183 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 8: in with everybody else went in and did it all 184 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 8: of it. 185 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 2: Wow, what do you I think? I consider myself a 186 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: very good looper. Also, what do you attribute that time? 187 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 4: You know? 188 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 5: When I was in graduate school, my speech teacher she 189 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 5: always said that I had a really good ear for 190 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 5: being able to like, you know, catch intonations and and 191 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 5: and mimic and do that kind of stuff. And then 192 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 5: it was just simply a matter of like, Okay, we're 193 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 5: using that ear and then watching the screen and watching 194 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 5: the mouth, you know, watching watching the mouth movements on 195 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 5: the screen, and then. 196 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 4: Just time me, you know. 197 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel I feel like mine came from 198 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: my dance background, which just allowed me to have such 199 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: a deep cellular understanding of rhythm and the musicality of something. 200 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: And I feel like it just made me be able 201 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: to listen to a line and then like understand exactly 202 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 2: how I was of it was. 203 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 4: Ry is time, you know what I mean. 204 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 5: So it's there's a timing aspect that's going on there, 205 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 5: and for some reason, it just it's never been an 206 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 5: issue for me. I can use it, get in and 207 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 5: out of adr sessions really fast. 208 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: So they changed the accent, you did the looping, And 209 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: then I'm wondering this question I'm going to have, which 210 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: I know the girls have because I think our takeaway 211 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: of the first season and I'm not I'm sure you 212 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: probably haven't watched it in a in a while, but 213 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: we've just seen every single episode. I did not remember 214 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: Carlos being as violent and abusive. I mean, I was 215 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: going to say, yeah, when when did you know that 216 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 2: Carlos was such a bad guy in this first season. 217 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 3: I mean, you're such a lovely guy. Carlos is really 218 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: rough and problematic. 219 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 4: And that. 220 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I mean, so there's a lot of 221 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 5: things that I can kind of talk. 222 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 4: Let's see, how do I ward this? You know. 223 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 5: The thing is is I don't I don't necessarily know 224 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 5: that they were really sure what they wanted to do 225 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 5: with the character in the beginning, and so it's very easy. 226 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 4: It's nothing, It's very easy. It's just you can. 227 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 5: Writing in black or white, which is then a two 228 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 5: dimensional character is a is a simpler way to go 229 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 5: than trying to write the gray strands between the black 230 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 5: and the white. That actually flushes out a character and 231 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 5: gives a character their three dimensionality. So I and I 232 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 5: think that that's kind of where they were with this character. 233 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 4: They didn't know, they. 234 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 5: Didn't know what to do with him, because I think 235 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 5: they didn't know what to do with me as an actor, 236 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 5: you know, I mean, I was kind of that that 237 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 5: unknown variable in the cast. 238 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 4: I was. 239 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 5: I didn't have a lot of credits, you know, I'd 240 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,599 Speaker 5: just gotten out of graduate school, and they didn't know 241 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 5: a lot about me. I think they were trying to 242 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 5: suss me out in the same way that I was 243 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 5: trying to suss them out. And then and then add 244 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 5: to that, you know, there was a certain a certain 245 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 5: male actor who I will not name, who liked to 246 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 5: go around season one saying, well, you know, any of 247 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 5: us guys can get killed at any time. And so, 248 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 5: you know, for a young actor right out, you know, 249 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 5: only a few years out of graduate school, I'm walking 250 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 5: around going like, oh my god, I'm lose my job, 251 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 5: so you know, and then and then on top of it, 252 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 5: you know, and I'm just gonna be very frank here. 253 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 5: It's like to be sitting across a dining room table 254 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 5: in that first big dining room table scene that we 255 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 5: did in season one, you know, opposite a Terry Hatcher 256 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 5: and opposite of Marsha Cross, and it's like, I'm sitting 257 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 5: here going like what the fuck am I doing here? 258 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 5: Excuse my French, but it's like it's like. 259 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: How did I am? Is this imposter syndrome? Like what's 260 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 4: going on? 261 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: I think it's really charming that you've felt that way, 262 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: because I have to say, I am completely with you 263 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: on every job I've ever had, I am waiting to 264 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: be fired, including this one. Like I mean, so I 265 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: was living in the same insecure headspace that you were. 266 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: I have that too, I really do. 267 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: Every time my manager calls, I'm like. 268 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: So wow, that's by the way, are you talking about 269 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: the scene when B says Rex cries when he ejaculate. Yes, Yes, 270 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: what an amazing, amazing scene. 271 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 5: That one and that whole first season. The writing was 272 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 5: just off the chart, so good. 273 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: You know, have you rewatched any of it? 274 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 7: No? 275 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 4: And if I'm being really really transparent, I've watched I've 276 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 4: watched none of my scenes ever. 277 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 5: Oh wow, I've never I can't watch myself. 278 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: That's okay. 279 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 5: That just goes back to like theater, so like because 280 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 5: like you know, when I'm doing a play, I don't 281 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 5: get to see the performance, right of course, you know, 282 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 5: so I cannot watch myself at all. It's it's even 283 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 5: distracting to see my little corner here on my screen 284 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 5: that has me in it. 285 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: Wow. 286 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: Well, let us just tell you you're so good. I mean, 287 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: you're you know what I was saying in the intro 288 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: That really came up for us as we've been reflecting, 289 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: because you know, you heard a lot about the Housewives 290 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 2: and the show was a big success, and then there 291 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: was lots of like pr craziness. But what you didn't 292 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: hear about is, you know, people talking about how great 293 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: the husbands were. I mean, they did, but they didn't 294 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 2: really in the way that they should have. And the 295 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 2: show would have been nowhere without you, guys, and it 296 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: it you you were, you were so good in it. 297 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 2: So I mean, we're just happy to tell you you 298 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: look and act great on screen if you've never seen well. 299 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 5: So what I would do is when I was home, 300 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 5: because you know, i'd be playing back at home to 301 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 5: San Antonio, Texas, where my son was very little at 302 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 5: the time, and I was trying to get back there 303 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 5: to be with him and his mother. And so what 304 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 5: I would do is we would have a screaming of 305 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 5: the show on Sunday night, and I would sit in 306 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 5: there and watch everyone else's scenes, and then, you know, 307 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 5: knowing the script, when I knew that my scene was 308 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 5: about to come up, I would go into the other 309 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 5: room and I would listen to it, but I wouldn't 310 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 5: watch it. Well yeah, and then and then I'd get 311 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 5: critiques from from his mother or her friends or sisters 312 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 5: that were you know, there watching it, and they'd let 313 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 5: me know whether I did a good job or not 314 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 5: a good job, and I would go with that and 315 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 5: you know, figure out how to approach the next episode. 316 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: So do you remember struggling with the level of intensity, 317 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: Like there was a scene that I'm recalling where you 318 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: grabbed her wrist and you were trying to get her 319 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: to sign like a post not a postp not posting 320 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: up a piece of paper, and then you like were 321 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: yelling in her ear like but then there was also 322 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: you know, a scene where you're in the bathtub with bubbles, 323 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: like being silly, Like do you remember for having like 324 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: a particular moment where you would say to Mark, like, 325 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: I think we've gone too far, like I can't be 326 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: this violent? 327 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 4: Did that? 328 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 5: Or Latino character for Latino actor or Latino male actor. 329 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 5: These are tropes and stereotypes that were used to that's 330 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 5: how those characters are written or had been written. So 331 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 5: but also I think the industry has gotten away from that. 332 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 5: When you're dealing with comedy. That's the easiest way to go, 333 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 5: I think in terms of writing, because it's so definitive, 334 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 5: so and it's and it's and it's something that everybody 335 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 5: can access. You know, we all know that Latino guy 336 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 5: that is like hot headed or whatever, or the guy 337 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 5: that's very passionate, very dunhuanish. So those are and those 338 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 5: are stereotypes that have been around for centuries. 339 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's so interesting because we've talked about the 340 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: ways in which the show has aged and the ones 341 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: in which it's aged well or its relevance is still 342 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: really felt for us, and then we've talked about certain 343 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: things that have come up that we think, oh, that's 344 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: clearly dated. It feels marked of that certain time. So 345 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: it's interesting to hear you add that perspective about it. 346 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 5: If you guys are going to keep which which I 347 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 5: hope you do first off, because I think this is great. 348 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 5: But if you're going to continue going down in season two, three, four, 349 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 5: I mean, there's going to be some humor that you're 350 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 5: going to see that it's like. 351 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 4: Now completely dated, and. 352 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 5: There are some things that back then I even voiced 353 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 5: my concerns about when like I but I mean again, Terry, like, 354 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 5: it's not season one, no way, I would have never 355 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 5: done it. 356 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: But in the whole in the whole series, do you 357 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: have I mean, both for good and bad. Do you 358 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: have like favorite moments, like the most fun something that 359 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: you had an experience with a fellow castmate or the 360 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: particular time of writing for Carlos, Like, even in any 361 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: of the seasons, is there something that stands out that 362 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: you think super fans would enjoy hearing about it? 363 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 5: It's like, I what I loved was and like there 364 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 5: were you know, the ladies always had their poker knite, right, 365 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 5: there was one time one season where we did a 366 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 5: guy's poker knite and I was like, I wish we 367 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 5: would have done more of that. Yeah, and then I 368 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 5: think that was a season that was a season that. 369 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 4: Do Gray Scott was with us. 370 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 5: Okay, so and then the one of the other things 371 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 5: was when my character had to become roommates with James 372 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 5: Denton's character. Who I mean, James and I still keep 373 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 5: in contact. I absolutely love him to death, and. 374 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: I just went, we just got to go to dinner 375 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: the other night. So the next time you're in LA 376 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 2: that's a it's a it's a it's a it's gonna 377 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: be Edelstein. These two girls meet you and James that 378 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: I would love it. 379 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 5: I would love it, you know, but but he they 380 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 5: put us together like I was staying at his house 381 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 5: and there was just like like I had a girl 382 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 5: over or something and there was just this real awkward 383 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 5: moment between both of us, and we just loved working together. 384 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 5: I mean, he and I have kicked around like so 385 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 5: many times like we should do some sort of theatrical 386 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 5: show together, like a new version of The Odd Couple 387 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 5: or something. I just I think the world of him 388 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 5: and I'd love to work with him on anything. 389 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 4: He's just a jet. 390 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: I had a memory come up for me when we 391 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: were at dinner, and I'm wondering if you remember this 392 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: first season when we were promoting the show they had 393 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: they had some event kind of like an upfront for 394 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: ABC in Toronto, and they sent you and me, do 395 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: you talk about an Odd Couple? 396 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 4: Do you remember that? I absolutely remember that. I was 397 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 4: going to bring it up to you. I so remember 398 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 4: that because I was like, this is weird, Like she 399 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 4: you little, and I'm like, you know, and I was 400 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 4: like I know. 401 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: We were like, we're here to talk about this show, 402 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: Desperate Housewives. Neither one of us are housewives obviously, but 403 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: it's great and these are our roles and you should 404 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: watch the show. And I have really fond memories of 405 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: that with you. 406 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 5: That was for what that was for CTV or something 407 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 5: like that in Toronto and Canada. 408 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, something something like that. 409 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: But we went, we were tourists in Toronto together, and 410 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: I remember that very fondly. 411 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 412 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 5: And you're and you and your parents were there too. 413 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 4: Right, My mom was with us. Yeah, that's right, I 414 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 4: remember that. Ye. Yeah. 415 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: Well along those lines like experiences like that, did you 416 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: feel like in high like, how did Desperate Housewives change 417 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: your life? Change your career for the good or the 418 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: bad or whatever? Like, how how has it resonated in 419 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: the last fifteen years? 420 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 4: Oh? 421 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 5: My god, I mean it was absolutely life changing for me, 422 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 5: you know, you know, I was I was a struggling 423 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 5: Oh and that maybe not that struggling. I mean, at 424 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 5: that point I was working pretty consistently, but you know, 425 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 5: recurring roles and guest stars and some you know, some 426 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 5: small roles in films. But this was like a huge 427 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 5: turning point for me, you know, in terms of my career, 428 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 5: in terms of money and all that stuff. I mean, 429 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 5: it just it really kind of put me on the map, 430 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 5: I guess, you know, for for casting. But then it's like, 431 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 5: you know, I was also on the show for eight years, 432 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 5: you know, and and what that did in terms of 433 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 5: the family that was created. I e our crew, you 434 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 5: know which you know I still keep in touch with 435 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 5: so many of our crew members from Housewives. 436 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 4: I mean it was you and I both. 437 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: I feel like we're a lot with the crew, like 438 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: I was really good for I mean, DDA went camp 439 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: with me and I know you've done that. What's that 440 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: amazing walk you do in Spain? 441 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 5: We did and I did the Camino Santiago together three 442 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 5: years ago and a half years ago. 443 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I've always wanted to my friend just 444 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: walk to the Camino and she's writing a movie called 445 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 3: Camino that's like a period piece set on the Camino, 446 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: and I as I've always wanted to say, so Emerson. 447 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 4: So I did it. 448 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 5: I did it with d Da Coscas, who is our 449 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 5: key grip, one of our key grips on the house. 450 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 5: So I was like three three you were. 451 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 2: Camping with Emerson and I don't know you were you 452 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: don't know. 453 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 5: And then and then since then, my son and I 454 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 5: have been talking about doing it together, but every time 455 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 5: every summer that it comes up, I ended up booking 456 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 5: a job. 457 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I got to work. Sorry, I got to 458 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: go to work. Sorry, I got to go to work 459 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 4: again even this summer. 460 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 5: But I think when I finished said job that I 461 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 5: have coming up uh he and I will finally go 462 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 5: and do it. So we may not get to do 463 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 5: the main one, the Camino Francis, which takes about about 464 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 5: thirty thirty one days to complete at thirty three if 465 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 5: you go all the way to the ocean. But there's 466 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 5: another one called to coming to put a Medieval, which 467 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 5: is the shortest one, but it's also the hardest one 468 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 5: because you go through the history amountains. 469 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, wow, well you mentioned your upcoming job. Can 470 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: you tell us what you're working on and what's what's 471 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: exciting you and your work? 472 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 5: You're picking up on things O whether you're so smart. 473 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 4: Yes, I've been doing a lot of theater lately. 474 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 5: This coming twenty twenty six, I will be making my 475 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 5: Broadway DEBUTU were congratulations. 476 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: That's amazing. 477 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 4: You can buy tickets. I would I would love for 478 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 4: you guys to try and find a way. 479 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: To mon I'm totally going to come to over weekend. 480 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'll have a little baby, but I will make 481 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: my way there. 482 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: You can't curdy out of myay. 483 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 4: It is it is It is the new David Lindsay 484 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 4: Bear play. It's called The Ballusters. He wrote to Good People, 485 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 4: and he also wrote rabbit Hole, which was turned into 486 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 4: a movie with Nicole. 487 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 3: Actually, my dad's wife produced rabbit Hole. 488 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 489 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm very familiar with his writing. 490 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 4: He's a brilliant writer. That is so exciting, so great. 491 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is really exciting. But not to but not 492 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 2: we can't. We've got to remind people to go. Also 493 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: see what I saw and loved doing. Is it ballad? 494 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 2: Is how you pronounce it ballad? 495 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 4: Which is it's on Amazon Prime? 496 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: And then before that, I loved seeing you in Truth 497 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: Be Told and Selena. You were so great in Selena. 498 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 2: Like you've done a lot of work since Housewives. You're 499 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 2: always well, thank you. 500 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 4: It doesn't feel that way. 501 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: It seems like it that's the actor's played. It never 502 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: feels that way. 503 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 5: I'm when I'm sitting around for like three weeks, you know, 504 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 5: everybody in my family's like, there's nothing worse than unemployed 505 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 5: actor just walking around, you know, any space that we 506 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 5: reside in. 507 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 4: But to speak to something, you know, Cherry, I still 508 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 4: I thank you before and I'm going to thank you again. 509 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 4: Right now, because you wrote me just one. 510 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 5: Of the absolutely more beautiful, airing and complimentary emails when 511 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 5: you watch all of that first season of Selena. It 512 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 5: was just so kind of you to do that and 513 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 5: to compliment me like but to say things like you know, 514 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 5: like you know just how much growth you'd seen in 515 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 5: me from where I was working on the Housewives to 516 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 5: this and it was just a very very beautiful and 517 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 5: kind email. 518 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 4: So I just again I always want to say thank 519 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 4: you for that. 520 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that you got the opportunity to dig 521 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 2: into something so beautiful and deep and haunting. I mean, 522 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 2: what an incredible story that was. But and you know, 523 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: playing a real life character too, that's that's that's a 524 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 2: lot to take on too. And you did it excellent. 525 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: You were you were just excellent. It was it was beautiful. 526 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: So but but going back to the show, the other thing, 527 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: so and in the first season, and by the way, 528 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: if more stories come up that you think our audience 529 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: will want to know about funny things that might have 530 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 2: happened to you on the set, we're all about that. 531 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 2: But we were surprised by how violent and sort of 532 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: abusive Carlos was and we were also was surprised that 533 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 2: Gabby got away with having it with basically being a pedophile. 534 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 2: I mean, we were just like, what is happening? I mean, 535 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 2: if you had reversed it and Carlos had been sleeping 536 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 2: with a fifteen year old oh h or a sixteen 537 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: year old girl, I mean, that would have shut the 538 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: show down. And somehow Gabby was able to be sleeping 539 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: with a sixteen year old boy who, by the way, 540 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 2: liked his cheerleaders, took baths with a rubber ducky Like 541 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 2: we we pulled out all these lines of like, you know, 542 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: where he was so clearly a child. Did you do 543 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: you remember having thoughts about that in the moment or 544 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 2: as you reflect. 545 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 5: No, I mean because I mean it was kind of 546 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 5: so sexualized, number one, you know, I mean obviously, but 547 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 5: also you know, Jesse didn't even though he was a child, 548 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 5: he didn't look the part of a child, you know 549 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 5: what I mean, like, and I think that was part 550 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 5: of what that. 551 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: Was recast, right right, We've spoken about that, is that 552 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: the original actor looked a lot younger, he looked a 553 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: lot more like a teenager. 554 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 5: That's it, that's it, And I think that's where they 555 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 5: could not get away with exactly. 556 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: So okay, so you just it sounds like you spent 557 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 2: a lot of that first season being like, I'm a 558 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: fairly new actor. I'm gonna I'm I hope I don't 559 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 2: get fired. I'm going to do the best with whatever 560 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: they give me. And that's all I'm doing. 561 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 4: You know. 562 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 5: Okay, So our crew, you know, our camera crew, so 563 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 5: Rory and Paul and all. 564 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 4: Those guys, and Lowell Peterson. 565 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, they secretly that first season would take me aside 566 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 5: and like basically teach me or instruct me on how 567 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 5: to go about working in front of camera and the jargon, 568 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 5: the vernacular, everything, because it was just I'd done some 569 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 5: work in front of camera, but not a consistent level 570 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 5: of work, you know, where it's like you know, daily, weekly, whatever, 571 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 5: and so I just didn't I didn't have it, you know. 572 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 5: But the one thing that I did have was I 573 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 5: had my my theater background. 574 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 4: You know. 575 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 5: There was It's a story that got back to me. 576 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 5: It was an episode that Larry Shaw was directing and 577 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 5: it was in the Soli's house that was on Wisteria Lane, 578 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 5: and it was in that front living room, which was 579 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 5: a practical living room, so it wasn't on a set, 580 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 5: so it was really hard to kind of manipulate the space. 581 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 5: And Larry was having this really hard time with the 582 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 5: with the scene for whatever reason, and he was like, 583 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 5: I just don't know how to block is on a block. 584 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 4: And I wasn't hearing this. 585 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 5: I was just there right working the scene, to which 586 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 5: Lowell leaned into him and said, let Ricardo block it. 587 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 5: And Larry's like, what he goes, let Ricardo block. He 588 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 5: will block it for you, just let him do it. 589 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 4: And so and so. 590 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 5: I give a lot of credit to Lowell for that, 591 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 5: but I think it's just because of my theater background, 592 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 5: I understand how to work. 593 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 4: In space, you know. 594 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 5: And so it was little things like that that I 595 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 5: knew that I brought to the table that that would 596 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 5: work for me. But I still had to kind of 597 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 5: get get an education. I mean, The Housewives really was 598 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 5: my education for on camera work. 599 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's such a difference obviously in theater you have 600 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: so much more time in a space, you have tech, 601 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: you have all the time to be on your feet 602 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: and in your body, and then of course on a 603 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: set it's really quick. And we've talked about this with 604 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: Terry and and and her approach, and Jamie had had 605 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: said that she always showed up completely off book and 606 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: ready to go because she wanted to really maximize that 607 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: limited time we had to rehearse, and and that was 608 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: super impactful for me as well. Did you and Eva 609 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: take Did you feel like you guys had an approach 610 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: to having, you know, some extra time to rehearse or 611 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: did you feel like you just were kind of shown 612 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: up and just getting right into it. 613 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 4: It depended from day to day. 614 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, And and who was trying to catch a flight 615 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 5: after a sat so or who was trying to get home? Yeah? 616 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I hear you were you were you in 617 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: Eva both not based in LA. 618 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 4: Or that I was not based in LA. 619 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 5: I mean I was based in LA but my we 620 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 5: had a house in San Antonio and that's where my 621 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 5: wife was, that's where our son was, that's where her 622 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 5: family was, and my family was. But I also kept 623 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 5: an apartment in Los Angeles. But I would fly back 624 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 5: and forth and I pretty much did that. It's actually funny. 625 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 5: The first season, this is another thing that probably a 626 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 5: lot of people don't know about. Actually the first two seasons, 627 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 5: I was CouchSurfing for the first two seasons, living on friends' couches, 628 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 5: trying to save money. Yeah, because because here's this young 629 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 5: actor who didn't have a ton of money, and then 630 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 5: all of a sudden was like, Okay, oh my god, 631 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 5: I'm getting this great paycheck. I didn't want to let 632 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 5: go of said money. I'd like to put it into 633 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 5: like college funds for my children and all this stuff. 634 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 5: And I was like, Okay, how do I do that? 635 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 4: Hey, will you let me stay on your couch? So 636 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 4: that's that's what I did for my first time. 637 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: I do think, like, I mean, I had a similar 638 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: you know, I just think you can't take away like 639 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: where where your roots are. And I wasn't raised with, 640 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: you know, a ton of money, and so I've always 641 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 2: been pretty frugal with the money that I've made because 642 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: I somehow always feel like someone's going to take it 643 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: away from me or you know. I mean, it is 644 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: weird to sort of make up these paranoid stories, but 645 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: you do hear that they happen to people. So I 646 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: was I totally get that, and I also get it's 647 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: like you'll hear authors say this, Like an author will 648 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: write a fiction novel that ends up on the New 649 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: York Times bestseller list, but then they'll tell you I 650 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: don't have another book. And I think actors can feel 651 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 2: the same way, you know, like, you know, A, am 652 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: I going to get fired while I'm doing the job 653 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: that I've been hired for? And then b will I 654 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: ever get hired again? 655 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's not a stable None of these jobs 656 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: are necessarily built around the idea of stability. They're creative 657 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: and they're free flowing, and it does feel like so 658 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: much is not in our control. It's such a mind 659 00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: game in that way. 660 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 5: The one thing that I always expressed to people when 661 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 5: I'm talking about, you know, this this industry, this business acting, 662 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 5: I said, the only the one certainty that I know 663 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 5: is the uncertainty that is this business. That's the absolute 664 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 5: uncertainty that I have. And when I when I hear 665 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 5: an actor or somebody in this industry that says, oh no, no, 666 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 5: everything's gonna be fine, you know, I'm gonna be like, 667 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 5: it's great that you have that faith. 668 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 4: It's awesome, but careful, you know, because who is it? 669 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 4: Don don Chield. 670 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 5: I was listening to an interview Don Cheadle one time, 671 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 5: and he was like, you know, it's not like Hollywood 672 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 5: tells you the phone it's going to stop bringing me. 673 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: It just does, right, it just stops. I'm I'm a 674 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: little bit in that space, I'll admit, and it's you know, 675 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: it's uh, but you can't. All you can do is 676 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: like try to reinvent yourself. Oh, by the way, did 677 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: I tell you that I'm also going to be doing 678 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: a play. 679 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 4: Did we talk about it when. 680 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: I did? And so I do have the date? So yeah, 681 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: Jason Alexander is directing a brand new play and it's 682 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: going to be like mid March to the end of May. 683 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: So I know that's sort of when your play starts 684 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: to open. But I'm hoping that it'll at least be 685 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: able to get there for a night. 686 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 4: If there's a way that I can get to you 687 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 4: is I'll absolutely do it for sure. 688 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 3: Otherwise, I'm going to have a lot of theater in 689 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 3: my spring. I'm going to be flying all over the 690 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: United States to see people that I love in amazing plays. 691 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 3: I can't wait. 692 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: But I'm so excited to have the opportunity. And I 693 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: will say what I was going to say is you can't. 694 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 2: I mean, there's just no sense in being angry or 695 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: resentful or whatever. Like, you just have to keep reinventing 696 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: yourself and and just try to keep yourself open to 697 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 2: the universe and keep working on whatever you're in control 698 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: of and until that part comes to you. But but 699 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 2: I'm so happy that you've been doing so much. It's 700 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: so fun. Like when when when I don't know that 701 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: you're in a series and then I watch something, you know, 702 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 2: at night by myself in my house and I turned 703 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: something on and I'm like, oh. 704 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 7: There's Cardo. 705 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, yay, here's a here's a question for you. 706 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm just curious, and I think people would love to 707 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: know we were We got to be on the show 708 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: for so many seasons. So much life was lived on 709 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: Westeria Lane. Did you keep anything? Do you have any 710 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: mementos from set or from the show that you still have? 711 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: I have I have a couple of things that still 712 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: matter to me a lot. I have the thermis that 713 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: the Desperate Housewives that Desperate house Guys gave us season one. 714 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: You all gave us a Christmas gift of the Desperate 715 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: Housewives thermos. And I have my warming jacket that says 716 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: my name and things like that. 717 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 5: Do you have anything let's see there is a thing 718 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 5: of poker chips, housewives. 719 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 4: What else? 720 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there's a blank get two that I think 721 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 5: like some sort of knitted type blanket that I have, 722 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 5: mm hmm what else? 723 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 4: And then I actually. 724 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 5: I have one of the entire suits and shirts and ties. 725 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: From clothes. Do you remember either in regards to wardrobe 726 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 2: or any or hair and makeup or or anything of 727 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 2: like how it seemed like shoe string They just didn't 728 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: have what they might have needed to get the show shot. 729 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 4: He didn't seem to mind spending money on my. 730 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: Well, why because because Carlos had a lot of expensive 731 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 2: suits that all went. 732 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 5: To Carlos's suits. 733 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 4: I had these, I had these suits, like I mean 734 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 4: just like really smith Zenya. 735 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, they they wanted to do me up, you know, 736 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 5: really successful. Money you go, which is which is yeah, 737 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 5: there you go, right, Which is also funny because it's 738 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 5: like you never really knew what. 739 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 4: My character did. 740 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: Well, didn't he just like steal other people's money, like 741 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: like shuffle shuffle money around and make money on other 742 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 2: people's I don't know. 743 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 4: The term is called the term is called borrow. 744 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: Terry borrow Okay, okay, he borrowed other people's money, yep, 745 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 2: and then made interest off of that, and then. 746 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,959 Speaker 4: Yes, Ponik. 747 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 2: White collar crime. 748 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 4: A Latino made off there. You go. 749 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: So well, we obviously, you know, part of this podcast experience, 750 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: we've gotten to share with people how close Terry and 751 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: I have remained in Emerson and I have gotten to 752 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: be over the years of the show. And what a 753 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: beautiful perk that is that the show provided us this deep, 754 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: beautiful relationship of all these many years. And you've mentioned 755 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: you've been tight with Jamie over the years. Is there 756 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: anyone else from the and of course are wonderful crew. 757 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: Is there anyone else from the show that you've kept 758 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: in touch with, you know. 759 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 5: Every every now and then, And it was more so 760 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 5: it's it's kind of fallen off a little bit. But 761 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 5: David Grossman and I had kept in touch for a 762 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 5: long time. Doug Savant, you know, we've we've kept in 763 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 5: touch all the I mean all the guys, Mark Moses, 764 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 5: Doug Savant, myself, James Denton, we have all kept in 765 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 5: pretty good touch. 766 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 2: Well, I have to say, I'm so touched by just 767 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 2: how amazing it you all are. And this, this podcast 768 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 2: in itself has been fun for me because you know, 769 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 2: people think of all of us having gotten to work 770 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 2: together because it was this big ensemble, but the truth 771 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 2: is you really only got to work within your character storyline, 772 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 2: and so like you and I never worked together that much, 773 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 2: Like I would love to work with you, like you're 774 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 2: so put out out I am, I'm putting it out there. 775 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 2: I would love to work with. 776 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 4: You, And She's absolutely right. We didn't. 777 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 5: We had that one moment where I think we did 778 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 5: that little small arc between our two characters for I 779 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 5: think three or four episodes it was like season six 780 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 5: or season seven or something like that. Yeah, and I 781 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 5: just it was so refreshing, you know, and I was 782 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 5: just completely like, Wow, she's like an absolute professional, like 783 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 5: just knew knew what, like came in ready to go. 784 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 5: But it was also so giving and so just like mutual, 785 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 5: Like it was just it was wonderful. I was like this, 786 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 5: this is really great, and I wish I could have 787 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 5: had more of that. 788 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 6: Yeah. 789 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 4: No, I mean, just a consummate professional. 790 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 3: I'm so grateful that you're here with us and that 791 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 3: you were able to give us so much insight into 792 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 3: your experience on the show and your experience now and 793 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 3: may I ask. 794 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 5: Everson, how is it for you, like, because you're watching 795 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 5: this for the first time. 796 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 4: Is that correct? 797 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 3: I'm watching it for the first time, and it's been amazing. 798 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,280 Speaker 3: I was saying, it's been amazing to get to watch 799 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 3: my mom's body of work and to also get to 800 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 3: really sperience a show that felt so cultural, culturally relevant 801 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 3: when it aired and continues to, you know, in this 802 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 3: stylized world that lays right on top of reality, feel 803 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 3: so potent even today. And it's incredible. I mean, I 804 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 3: know you don't watch yourself, but I have to say, 805 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 3: as a child of an actor, it's incredible to have 806 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 3: a testament, a physical testament to your parents' accomplishments and passion. 807 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 3: And it's been really moving and beautiful to get to 808 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 3: witness that. And I mean, I'm excited for season two. 809 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 4: It's nice to hear your insight, you know, it really is. 810 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 2: Thank you, she's a smart cookie. 811 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 4: Do. 812 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 2: I think that's another great thing. We all learn from 813 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 2: each other every every episode, which is so nice to 814 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 2: have friends and family in your life that you are 815 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 2: continued to be inspired by and learn from. 816 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, Emerson Unlock's perspectives on the show that just I 817 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 1: don't know that I would have access to without her 818 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: being here a part of it with us, and it's 819 00:37:59,160 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: so cool. 820 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 4: Well, thank you. 821 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 3: It's a big love fest over here and I'm so 822 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 3: glad to have you here. 823 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 2: So, Ricardo, our show is called Desperately Devoted. So we 824 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 2: would love to ask you if there's anything in your 825 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 2: life as we are getting ready to wrap this up 826 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,479 Speaker 2: that you are desperately devoted to that might be good 827 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 2: to share with an audience and could be like your 828 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 2: mental outlook, your exercise routine, what you eat, like, what 829 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 2: makes you happy? Do you feel desperately devoted to anything? 830 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 5: I'm desperately, absolutely desperately devoted to my two children for sure. 831 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 832 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 5: And then aside from them, I'm desperately devoted to my 833 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 5: two furry children. 834 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 4: That are my two kiddies. 835 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 5: One is he's a big ginger boy and his name 836 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 5: Ginger Tabby and his name is Sonny. And then the 837 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 5: other one is just the most gorgeous little calico you've 838 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 5: ever seen, and her name is cher. So I have 839 00:38:55,160 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 5: Sonny and share around my house. Yeah, And aside from that, 840 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 5: an occasional you know, sip of whiskey and a nice 841 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 5: I p a and and all my theater works, you know. 842 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing. Okay, Can I just say for our 843 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 2: audience the idea that really violent, abusive Carlos is desperately 844 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 2: devoted to his two kiddies. I'm just I'm just putting 845 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 2: those together, and I just think everyone is gonna love that. 846 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 2: Everyone is gonna love that Carlos loves his kiddies. 847 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 5: My hope for you guys is that you go through this, 848 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 5: you know, hopefully through the gamut, you know, through all 849 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 5: the seasons, if you're going to do this, because I 850 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 5: think you're going to see an immense change on this character. 851 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, we're excited to tell Ryan, well, we're desperately 852 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 2: devoted to you. Thank you so much for being here. 853 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 2: We're so great to see. We know our audience is 854 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 2: just going to love hearing everything you had to say 855 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 2: because we are desperately devoted to you. 856 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, I likewise, and anytime you guys need be 857 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 5: back for anything, I'm happy to doing. 858 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,479 Speaker 1: We will have more questions for you, So we would 859 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: love to have you back. 860 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks honey. 861 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 6: By Yeah h 862 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: M hm