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Speaker 2: And I'd like to welcome to the show, Ben Owen. Welcome, RD.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. Man, how are

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm doing great. Hey, welcome to the show. Randy Searle,

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Speaker 2: you know, he's like, hey, Rad, you need to get

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Speaker 2: to have you on to talk about your organization. But first,

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Speaker 2: what were you doing at seventeen? Where were you at,

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Speaker 4: So I had graduated the high school with honors. I

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Speaker 2: I can inn stand that, you know, you have them

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Speaker 3: It's definitely all illicit.

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Speaker 3: An absence of addiction.

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Speaker 4: It constantly seems that addiction is the tool of coersion

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Speaker 2: Same time, Yeah, we would have like current likeire, what

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Speaker 4: Yes, and you know you and I have to accept

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Speaker 2: Oh men, Well, men just want to stick it in something.

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Speaker 2: there painting a picture like, look for these bad ombres,

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Speaker 2: look for somebody that's man. They're the they're the judges,

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Speaker 3: They're the church leaders.

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Speaker 2: We all know it. We all know it. Epstein's Island,

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Speaker 4: We've got Epstein's dead, of course, and then.

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Speaker 2: He seems like he's living on you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It seems like these guys are.

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Speaker 4: Like not a single person that went and paid for

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Speaker 3: What the hell? What the hell around there?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't get it either, because, like you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's disgusting, man, it's disgusting.

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Speaker 2: It's got a tweet. It's got to tweak someone like

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Speaker 2: You know, to see these folks you're like sitting here

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You know, if people with money deal with unconstable things, man,

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Speaker 4: You know, it doesn't surprise anybody to hear that a

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Speaker 2: like you gotta have it, whether it's weed, whether it's crack,

433
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Speaker 2: whether it's coke, cocaine or fetanol or opiates. Here at

434
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 2: Soft Rep, we have this big mantra and it's called

435
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 2: thrills before pills. And what that is is get outside,

436
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 2: go snowboarding, go for a hike, Go walk around a

437
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 2: river that you is near you. You go walk a

438
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 2: creek bed you know that might be dried out, but

439
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: just look at the rocks and just go explore before

440
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 2: you start taking some type of a pill to help

441
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 2: you explore. Okay, So like you want to ex I'm

442
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 2: just saying, right, I get it, you know, just thrills

443
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,880
Speaker 2: before pills, and for someone like yourself, went to the army,

444
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 2: got out of the army, found yourself in a rough spot,

445
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: rough patch, dealing with it on the streets, seeing it firsthand,

446
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 2: knowing that these people are good people. You know that

447
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 2: they're good people. They fed you and they probably gave

448
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 2: you things off their own back as you probably did

449
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 2: for them. And it's not so much to it's not

450
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 2: so much to fight for yourself. Sometimes sometimes you're that

451
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 2: person who's still so giving even when you have nothing.

452
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,239
Speaker 2: You give everything that you can you get to somebody else. Right,

453
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: I've seen it, I've got I know. It's it's human nature.

454
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: You're gonna be who you are, even in the worst situation.

455
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: So if you're a giver, you're always going to be

456
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 2: a giver.

457
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you run into a lot of givers on

458
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Speaker 3: the streets.

459
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 2: Man.

460
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 3: It's weird.

461
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 4: And some of the purest arts we have in this

462
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 4: country I firmly believe are in homeless camps.

463
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: I don't doubt that. You know, Like in La, they

464
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: just tore apart. What they said, like there's an La

465
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: River and there's the cement channel that it flows through

466
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: in La. It's one of those types of canals and

467
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 2: along like the tree line. Somebody had built all these

468
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 2: shanty homes. They're like little they had like curbside appeal

469
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: right like, like they had like windows and like somebody

470
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: was just somebody there was just really savvy to say, hey,

471
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: this is how we do all of this here. You know,

472
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: maybe he became the mayor of Shantyville. But they came

473
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 2: and just tore it away. No one was staying there,

474
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: No one cared about that until all of a sudden

475
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: somebody had a place to stay, you know, that was

476
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: looking for a place to stay. And then we just

477
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 2: get you know, you know, Governor Gavin Newson was out

478
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: there cleaning it up with them all you know, showing

479
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 2: he's out there cleaning up there built unlicensed, unpaid tax

480
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Speaker 2: SENTI you know, you can't even set up a tent

481
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: in some places, you know, I don't mind organ where

482
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: they allow like people to have a place to set

483
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 2: up a tent. You know, they understand the need to

484
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Speaker 2: like sleep.

485
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 3: Well.

486
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Speaker 4: And I mean a lot of the times, if you

487
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Speaker 4: go out and you deal in a homeless camp in

488
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 4: any capacity whatsoever, you're going to realize, like everybody in

489
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 4: that camp, for the most part, has one of two

490
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 4: things going on, if not both, addiction, alcoholism or mental illness.

491
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Speaker 4: You know, you rarely find people homeless in absence of

492
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Speaker 4: those conditions. And until we have a better way to

493
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Speaker 4: address mental health in this country, I don't think homelessness

494
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 4: is going anywhere.

495
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Speaker 3: I really don't.

496
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Speaker 4: It's not, especially in the veteran population. You don't just

497
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 4: wake up one day and have bad luck and end

498
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,479
Speaker 4: up homeps. It doesn't work that way, you know. It

499
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 4: takes a series of bad decisions that usually go back

500
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Speaker 4: to mental health or addictionary alcoholism. Until we can address

501
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 4: those things, you know, I don't think homelessness is going anywhere.

502
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 4: So being able to deal with that population in compassionate

503
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 4: way is an important thing.

504
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Speaker 2: You know. What I don't understand is I do a

505
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Speaker 2: lot of my listeners will know that I do large

506
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 2: scale airsoft wargames in Utah and around the nation, and

507
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 2: we'll use like, you know, old military bases that were

508
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,479
Speaker 2: decommissioned and the housing is still in place. All of

509
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: the three story buildings with the dorms are still there.

510
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: The old hospital is still on the base. Because I

511
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: fight through all of it. It could have easily not

512
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 2: been just left to the desert to go away and

513
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 2: be leased to play wargames. I'm thankful to be able

514
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Speaker 2: to play war games at such a great, cool military base.

515
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 2: That doesn't matter if I kick a wall down. But

516
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: I can only imagine. I can only imagine, you know,

517
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: when we're not there, that one weekend or the three

518
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: weekends that there's games out there, there's a little security

519
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: dude driving a car around the whole base just making

520
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 2: sure nobody's sleeping inside of these buildings. You know, it's like, yeah,

521
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 2: why why not just it's already there, like tax creat

522
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: is already paid to have it in Victorville. Why not

523
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 2: just you know, okay, put some drug. Yeah, I'm just confused.

524
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 4: You know, there's a there's what we call buy back

525
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 4: the block, and that was the block we started shutting

526
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 4: down Dope palses on in Memphis. Immediately adjacent to the street,

527
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 4: it's called Melrose. There's a seventy six thousand square foot

528
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Speaker 4: abandoned nursing home that's been empty for twenty fucking years.

529
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Speaker 3: Let me think about that.

530
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Speaker 4: And this is a in a zip code in Memphis

531
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Speaker 4: as a higher infant mortality rate than Haiti does you know,

532
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 4: And I already gave you a bunch of depressing statistics

533
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 4: about it. This huge atibility could be we could bet

534
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 4: could be cut. Wow, could be put to good use

535
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 4: out there. We finally got in contact with the owner

536
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,239
Speaker 4: and she wants to do something big with it. The

537
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 4: city wants to do something with it. So I think

538
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 4: we're gonna make something good happen there. The point I

539
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 4: make it is like with these military bases you've got,

540
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 4: you know, maybe somebody just needs to go with the

541
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 4: idea and get it in front of the right person.

542
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 3: That's what we had to do.

543
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: You know.

544
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 3: Uh, we were set there and fitched.

545
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 4: We sat there and bitched about the seventy six thousand

546
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 4: square foot abandoned facility for two years, just complaining and saying,

547
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 4: wouldn't it be great if And then one day I

548
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 4: got the wild hair up my ass. Let me find

549
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 4: out who owns it, and I'm gonna color And that's

550
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 4: what I did. And then the first time we spoke,

551
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 4: she's like, that's a great idea.

552
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

553
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 4: We're gonna turn it into West Tennessee's largest treatment facility.

554
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 4: So sometimes with these abandoned places like that, it's just

555
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 4: a matter of getting to the right person. Now the

556
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 4: issue you might really it's federally on, you know, and

557
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 4: exactly the personal.

558
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 2: No, there's no more people at the government. I think

559
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: it's all. But everybody's been your fire it everybody's been

560
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: fired these days. I don't even know. Bro. It's like

561
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 2: because it's not the only base. You know, there's other

562
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 2: bases around the country that have been decommissioned. It's like

563
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: they're just sitting there growing grass.

564
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: There's tons of men. You know, maybe they turn over

565
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: to the state or something. I don't know.

566
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 4: If they remain federal property, it'd be worth looking into

567
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 4: that because that is a great idea.

568
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, you know, all the facilities you could

569
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: ever need. You get huge dining halls, you get dorms.

570
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's.

571
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Speaker 2: A good I mean, and all those things we're talking about,

572
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: I fight through with like, you know, three to eight

573
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: hundred people. So it's street to street, house to house,

574
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 2: and so we're fighting in a one mile square grid

575
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: with like war machines and tanks and deuc and half

576
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: dropping people off at the rear, you know, streets like

577
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: Washington and Utah and Idaho and North Carolina, and you're

578
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: crossing them as phase lines. So I can only imagine

579
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: you know, like let alone the hospital that you get

580
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: a fight through, it's it's in that grid as well.

581
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: And so like you're not only clearing a hospital of

582
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: all of its rooms and like looking for anybody in there,

583
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: you got a whole you know, one mile square grid

584
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: that you're hunting people through, which could easily be converted

585
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: into like tiny homes. I'm just me, I mean, you know,

586
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: and uh, even the bases like up in northern California,

587
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: like Alameda, and there's bases out there, the naval bases

588
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: and stuff, they could also be caro a refuge if

589
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: they haven't already. I just you know, why let them

590
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: go to waste?

591
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 4: Exactly, we have a tremendous amount of waste, especially at

592
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 4: the federal level in this country. I mean, did hell

593
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 4: how much stuff do we leave in Afghanistan? It's like

594
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 4: eighty billion dollars of military equipment.

595
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: Bro sold it to him, dude, the current guy in

596
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: charge right now sold all that And then December twenty

597
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: second of that same year, after he had voted out

598
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: of election because Biden had won, he signed that a

599
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: cord to pull out of Afghanistan.

600
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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't.

601
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: It's like, like, what was he even doing that for?

602
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 2: Why was even getting involved? You know who wants the

603
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: Talibans to the White House? You know that guy? Did

604
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,239
Speaker 2: you know? And that guy is the current president and

605
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: so you know, I'm not afraid to say it because

606
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: it's the facts, right, But everybody's gonna blame, you know,

607
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: the last guy that was in charge of it, and

608
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: that was going to be President Biden, who got the

609
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: full blame for the fall of Afghanistan. But when I've

610
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: had so many people on the show who have been there,

611
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: who have been helping move people like what you're saying,

612
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: who've had their feet broken when they were captured because

613
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: their sas and they never said it while they were captured.

614
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: But for four weeks my friend got his feet hit

615
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 2: and broken and broken because he had helped four hundred

616
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: and somewhat people like kind of safe house to safe

617
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: house to safe house to Afghanistan, bro, just like what

618
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: you helped with you know yourself as well, that kind

619
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: of safe house stuff. So again, there's just a lot,

620
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: you know, the different diplomats that we've had on the

621
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: show who have been there. There's always two sides to

622
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: every story. Now, the images that were shown coming out

623
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Speaker 2: of Afghanistan are awful. Afghanistan awful.

624
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 4: Right, I think there's like eight sides to it, and

625
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: I still haven't figured out which one's real. No, right,

626
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 4: you get two presidents that both sucked up. I mean

627
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 4: there's no way around that. But what was really weird

628
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 4: is while we were doing the evag it seemed like

629
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 4: our biggest enemy was the State Department. Like the White

630
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 4: House was supportive, the Biden White House was supportive of

631
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 4: a lot of the efforts, but the State Department was

632
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 4: roadblocking everything. We never could figure out why, Like to

633
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 4: this day, I don't know who the boogeyman.

634
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: Was right, Well, it's the opium fields. Bro, we're talking.

635
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: My whole conversation with you is about addiction, right now. Yeah,

636
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: let's get and then I'm cracking into Afghanistan with all

637
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: of Afghanistan quote unquote. But there's da huts out there

638
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: that are surrounding these little opium fields that aren't little

639
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: quote unquote. And the whole point is what we got

640
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: to keep that going to supply? What to who? Where

641
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: is that opium going? Yeah, exactly, So, so what does

642
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: China do and what do other countries do? They try

643
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: to get it into us with what fentanyl?

644
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: I mean, really, if you can just look at this objectively,

645
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 4: they pulled a brilliant move. You know, the CCP has

646
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 4: incentivized Chinese pharmaceutical manufacturers with tax breaks. If they manufacture

647
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 4: precursor chemicals to fentanyl and they export them. Now they

648
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 4: sell them inside China, they don't get tax breaks. They

649
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 4: probably get death penalty. But if they export them to Mexico,

650
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 4: the Chinese Communist Party gives them a tax break. I mean,

651
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: this is like the most beautiful if if it wasn't

652
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 4: affecting me the way it is, it's the most beautiful

653
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: payback for the opium war.

654
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: You could ever imagine, bro, you know the fact that

655
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: it's being distributed to you know, coherse a nation. M hm.

656
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: That's what happens. They funnel all the drugs into America

657
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: to get America to get addicted to the drug, to

658
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: then coherse them into feeling that this is what it

659
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: should be X, Y, and Z. And it's the same

660
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: thing that we do with the poppy fields, which is

661
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: in Afghanistan. Let's not lie about that. That's there. It's

662
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: very much real and it's very much protected.

663
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 4: Oh dude, ninety plus percent, I want to say it

664
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 4: was like ninety eight percent. The WEA actually has statistics

665
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 4: on us. Ninety eight percent of the heroin that was

666
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 4: in the United States when I was on heroin came

667
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 4: from it originated.

668
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: From afghan poppy field.

669
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: Now today, you know, just the simple dope dope economics

670
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 4: of fentanyl.

671
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: You can't even find heroin anymore.

672
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 4: Because fentels so much cheaper and so much stronger for

673
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 4: the dope boys to do, you know, for them to

674
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 4: mix up their dope.

675
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: I mean, they can step on it one hundred and

676
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: fucking times, and so.

677
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: I don't even get it. I don't even get I

678
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: don't even get it. Someone who I knew, very close

679
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: to me, who passed away from breast cancer, she had

680
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: fetanyl lollipops yep, okay, and she'd have it in her

681
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: mouth all the time to cut the pain, right because.

682
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 4: Very effective Antal Jesus. If you've ever had surgery, you've

683
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 4: probably been given fentanyl. But they do sit in micrograms,

684
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: like the lollipops. I think most of them are one

685
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 4: hundred micrograms. So that's that's point one milligrams. Let's say

686
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 4: next to nothing. You're going to trust a drug dealer

687
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 4: to mix that up for you?

688
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: Come on, man, no, And that's what I'm saying. It's like,

689
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: why all of a sudden has it become So I

690
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: just want to know the I don't know the root

691
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 2: of it. Like, it's not like it's weed, like cannabis.

692
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: It's like setanol.

693
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 3: Bro It's like, here's how it happened. Okay.

694
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 4: So if if you're addicted to opiates and you don't

695
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 4: get your fix, you get violently ill. Being dope sick

696
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 4: is one of the most terrifying experiences a human can

697
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 4: ever go through.

698
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 3: I can't describe it. It's like the fluid plus covid

699
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 3: plus food.

700
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 4: Poisoning plus a panic attack, and it lasts for three days.

701
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: Fentanyl is an opiate, analgesic.

702
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 4: It prevents dope sickness, and the euphoric effect is very

703
00:34:54,400 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: similar to hydrocodon, oxycodon, or heroin. So from the a standpoint,

704
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 4: they don't get a shit. Fentanyl does what they need

705
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 4: the drug to do. Now, from the dope boys standpoint

706
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 4: or the cartel standpoint, we need a much lower quantity

707
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 4: of fentanyl to.

708
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 3: Produce the same effect as you do heroin.

709
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 4: Heroin also had to be grown in a poppy field

710
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 4: in Afghanistan, exported illegally because the Taliban will kill you,

711
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 4: exported illegally to Iran, and then finished into a product

712
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 4: called heroin, and then exported. And it's like the supply

713
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 4: chain is very very expensive to get heroin from a

714
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 4: poppy field in Afghanistan into the US supply chain. Fennel,

715
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 4: on the other hand, China is basically paying Chinese pharmaceutical

716
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 4: companies to send the precursor chemicals to Mexico, whereas refined

717
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 4: and pharmaceutical quality laboratories and pressed into you know, fake

718
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 4: pills or just across the border as bulk caroin I

719
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 4: mean sorry, bulk fentanyl. So it's like orders of magnitude

720
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 4: cheaper for the narcotics trafficker side of this to get

721
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 4: the exact same effect that the attic needs. So that's

722
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 4: why Fittanel has pretty much replaced heroin on the streets.

723
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 4: You know, we've been working on the streets of Memphis

724
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 4: actively since twenty twenty two. When I left the streets

725
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 4: in twenty nineteen, there was fentanyl.

726
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: You could get it, but there was still heroin.

727
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 4: Since twenty nineteen, I've not seen heroin a single time,

728
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 4: not once. I've seen ounces announces of fentanyl at the time.

729
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 4: I've never seen heroin since went.

730
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:24,479
Speaker 3: It's gone.

731
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: That's wild, bro, It's just crazy. I mean I get it.

732
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's a will, there's a way, and

733
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: then you know, yeah, sex, drugs, and rock and roll.

734
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: I know, I get those three things right there. That's

735
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: that's the la guns, rock and roll, lifestyle, sex, drugs,

736
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: and rock and roll. You know, they named an album

737
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: that because if you could put your business into one

738
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: of those three categories entertainment, you know, uh, drugs, sex, drugs,

739
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 2: and rock and roll. Bro, you're gonna yeah, you're gonna

740
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: print money. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

741
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 3: It's simple economics.

742
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 4: And if you understand that, then then it makes sense

743
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 4: how fentanyl skyrocketed. The thing about being addicted to opiate's

744
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 4: like the loygic goes out the window. When I said earlier,

745
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: you're a slave to that substance. I mean like, I can't,

746
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: I can't overstate that you really are a slave to

747
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 4: that substance. So things like oh, no, I might overdose,

748
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 4: that doesn't even enter your brain. All that goes into

749
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 4: your mind is if I don't get this now, I'm

750
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 4: going to be sick. And it's not just like an

751
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: remarkable sick, it's you'll do anything to prevent that. And

752
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 4: so fentanyl we've seen a drastic rise in sex trafficking

753
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 4: because of it. Because if you get a female addicted defense,

754
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 4: she's going to do anything to prevent being dope sick.

755
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 3: So if you control the dope, you control those women.

756
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: And so that's why to go hand in hand so

757
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 4: frequently in Memphis or anywhere.

758
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: Else anywhere else really, No, really, Memphis can just be

759
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: also Salt Lake City, you know what I mean, It

760
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 2: could be any other It could be your town, USA,

761
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: you know. And I know that Memphis has a higher

762
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: crime rate and you say murder rate and a declining population.

763
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 2: That's crazy, right, I mean I know that that happens

764
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: here too, but not as much. Bro. First of all,

765
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 2: sorry about Memphis having that kind of you know, violent

766
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: crime action going on. Dude, I can only imagine. It's

767
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 2: just unnecessary. It's unnecessary.

768
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: It sucks.

769
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 4: We had We've had two murders in the last forty

770
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 4: eight hours in our little internetwork and I'm eulogizing an

771
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 4: eighteen year old year old tomorrow.

772
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: Yes, it's just unnecessary.

773
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 3: It is very unnecessary. It's heartbreaking.

774
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 4: But you know, if you look at what we're doing there,

775
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 4: if we're able to do that in a city whose

776
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 4: outlook is as hopeless as Memphis is, we can do

777
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 4: it anywhere. Then to your point, these issues I'm describing,

778
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 4: they may be worse in Memphis, but they're everywhere.

779
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: They are everywhere, you know, And like, let's just talk from.

780
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 4: A national security standpoint, Okay, recruiting is at an all

781
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 4: time low for I think every branch except the Marine Corps.

782
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: Fentanyl is now the number one killer of fighting age adults.

783
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 4: You know twenty four to I think fifty four is

784
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 4: the number one killer more than heart disease, murder, suicide,

785
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 4: carrex and cancer combined. So we're at all time low

786
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 4: and recruiting, and we're losing basically a generation of Americans.

787
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 3: Two battalions a week.

788
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 4: We're losing to a single substance that's being funneled into

789
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 4: our country by our biggest political enemy, China.

790
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 2: Do these do bro I wish there was more insight

791
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: into this fentanyl thing, because it's like, what are they

792
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: doing to they are they giving it to the kids

793
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: in different types of drugs, not calling it fentanyl and

794
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: it's bad and they're eating it, and that's what it is.

795
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,479
Speaker 2: That's what it is. It's got to be these kids.

796
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 2: I don't think these kids they got to be scared

797
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 2: of it, like heroin scared me growing up.

798
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, what they do They press fentanyl into fake pills.

799
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 4: So if you go to buy a xanax or a

800
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 4: pain pill from the street, it looks just like what

801
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 4: comes from the pharmacy. But instead of having you know,

802
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 4: I've gone brain dew, instead of having a benz to

803
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 4: the azepin in it on, instead of having hydro coat on,

804
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 4: it's fentanyl, and so you end up fentanyl was just

805
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 4: getting sold everywhere. A matter of fact, we had a

806
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 4: sister organization of ours in Texas. The founder's brother bought

807
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: Adderall in Phoenix, Arizona last year and it was fentanyl

808
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 4: and he's dead now.

809
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: Like it's it is in everything.

810
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: So it's just they're just like saying, yeah, that's what

811
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: you want. Here you go and then buy and then they're.

812
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 5: Gone, yeah, that's exactly right. And you know, holy cow,

813
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 5: they don't want you to die. They want you to

814
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 5: have a customer. But it's such a potent substance. It

815
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 5: doesn't take much of an overdose. And by overdose, I

816
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 5: don't mean in your body.

817
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 4: I mean they have overdosed a single caps and for

818
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 4: it to kill you.

819
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: Oh, I've lost a family member to a heroin overdose.

820
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, she had gone clean and

821
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: then she relapsed with a text message to the guy

822
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: because we have her phone and it was her text

823
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: message that last messages. It said like hey, I want

824
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 2: some and he's like, yo, I think it's too strong

825
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: for you. And she's like I'll be the judge of that.

826
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: And then the next morning she didn't wake up from

827
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: that straight up. And then I went and cleaned out

828
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: her apartment. Man, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and watched her

829
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 2: get buried at like eight nineteen nineteen to twenty one. Sorry,

830
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to she's it's a family member, you know.

831
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: And so just this is the thing. This touches everybody.

832
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody at this point has had a story like that, Like,

833
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 4: we should be doing something about this as a country.

834
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 3: I mean, this should be like front page news everywhere.

835
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: It should be politicized though. It should just be like

836
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: it shouldn't just be like painted a picture of like

837
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: this is bad. It should actual we'd be done something

838
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 2: about it. It shouldn't just be I'm doing something but nothing.

839
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

840
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 4: The war on drugs has been an abject's failure by

841
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 4: every metric measurable. And the only people that really even

842
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 4: bring fentanyl up they used it as like a political

843
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 4: talking point.

844
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: They want to blame Biden because we had.

845
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 4: A porous southern border right now that we yell at

846
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 4: Trump because he's not doing X, Y and Z.

847
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 3: Nobody actually wants to tackle the fucking issue.

848
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 4: No, okay, look at it in this context, if we

849
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 4: had a voting seven forty seven crash. Today, it would

850
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 4: be on front page US everywhere because three hundred people

851
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 4: are on that plane and they're dead. We lose that

852
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 4: many people every other date to fentanyl every other day.

853
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 3: Right, Like that, How are we not? This should be everywhere.

854
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 2: And you're seeing it, you know, you see it. You're

855
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: you're seeing it, especially from your neck of the woods

856
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: where it is worse in Memphis area, you know, so

857
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 2: I mean to, but that's what we fight. Monsters. Org

858
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 2: is all about. When when you go to your website

859
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: and check that out, it's very easy to navigate. There's

860
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: like operations and you have like operation buy Back the Hood, No,

861
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 2: make the Hood great Again, right, and like you have

862
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Speaker 2: like these different cube or squares that you can like

863
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Speaker 2: click on and start with, like a donation for bring

864
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Speaker 2: the dog to see you know, bring this service dog.

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Speaker 2: Help bring our service dog to somebody. There's a lot

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00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 2: of like what seems very worthwhile things that you can

867
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: just donate to this specific cause. Right, It's like this

868
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: person got her car stolen and could use some help

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00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: getting back on her feet because she was on her

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00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: feet until her car got stolen. And if you've ever

871
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Speaker 2: had yeah, right, and so at We Fight Monsters dot Org.

872
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: You guys have a really nice platform, and I can

873
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: see why Randy was like, hey, Rad, you got to

874
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: get you know, get you on Ben and have you

875
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: talk about your your organization and and just everything that

876
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: we just went back and forth about. Dude, right a dick,

877
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Speaker 2: It's it's real. It's very real. Say that one more time.

878
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Speaker 2: I didn't catch it.

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Speaker 3: We got a lag here. I'm sorry I was saying.

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Speaker 4: I really appreciate you sharing your platform with us, man,

881
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 4: I really do you know. Randy's been helping us with

882
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 4: our books. It's on Kickstarter right now. If you just

883
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 4: look up We Fight Monsters on Kickstarter, you can check

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Speaker 4: it out.

885
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 3: We got some cool add.

886
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Speaker 4: Ons on there. But man, thank you so much for

887
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 4: sharing your platform. You seem like one hell of a

888
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Speaker 4: could dude. If I'm ever in Salt Lake City, I'm

889
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Speaker 4: gonna look you up for sure.

890
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Speaker 2: Oh please, you know, and come do some wargames with me.

891
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Because it's it's like it's

892
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: thrills before pills, bro, That's what right man? Okay, And

893
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: so I just want to say thanks again for being

894
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: on the show and talking about we fight Monsters dot Org.

895
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Speaker 2: Talking about your story and the hardships that you've been

896
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Speaker 2: through and the successes that you've had, that you know

897
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Speaker 2: life is worth living for and that you're continuing to

898
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: live because we've all been like one, am I am,

899
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Speaker 2: I supposed to be here today? Okay, I'm here today.

900
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Speaker 2: We've all had those moments in life, dude, all right,

901
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Speaker 2: a little bit of a little bit of a lad

902
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Speaker 2: go ahead.

903
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Speaker 3: The struggle something we've all had to go through.

904
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Speaker 4: And you know, I think purpose in the veteran population

905
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Speaker 4: in particular, and also in the addicts and recovery population

906
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Speaker 4: is a very important thing. We have to find our purpose.

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Speaker 4: I love your concept of thrills before pills. Every example

908
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 4: you gave of a thrill is amazing. I would add

909
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 4: one thing to that. Try to find a way to

910
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Speaker 4: be of service to somebody who can't ever repay you

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Speaker 4: every day, and you know, in that act of being

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Speaker 4: in service, I think a lot of us will will

913
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Speaker 4: maybe identify something tied to our purpose here on the surface.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you very much, dude.

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Speaker 2: Hey, and I really appreciate those last few words of

916
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 2: being kind. It's infectious and helping someone without expecting something

917
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: back in return. You know, you know, I've given uniforms

918
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Speaker 2: from my shop to people who come into my shop,

919
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: and some people might look at them weird, but they're

920
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 2: on the spectrum and they may just you know, think

921
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: that I'm a safe space. And my customer will be like,

922
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Speaker 2: why do you help that guy? And I'm like, because

923
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Speaker 2: he needed it. I'm just thinking, you just got to

924
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Speaker 2: I love how you put that bro be very boy

925
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Speaker 2: scout in life and open the door, help others, do

926
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Speaker 2: the best you can and all you do. And and

927
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Speaker 2: on behalf of Ben Owen and his wife Jessica. Right,

928
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Speaker 2: is that right? She's out there. Give her a shout out. Okay,

929
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Speaker 2: she's your sounding board. Okay, you know we fight monsters.

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Speaker 2: Dot org is a very cool website, so go check

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Speaker 2: that out. And on behalf of Soft Rep, the merch Store,

932
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Speaker 2: the book club, and Brandon Webb and all of the

933
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 2: operators behind us that push this ship forward. I want

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Speaker 2: to say peace, you've been.

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Speaker 1: Listening to your self.

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Speaker 2: Red Radio