1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Klay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: Welcome everybody, Monday edition of Play and Buck. Much to 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 2: talk about, much to dive into today. Thanks for being 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: here with us. Lines are open eight hundred to eighty 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 2: two to eight eight to two, so we can tell 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: you that there's a bunch of news stories here we're 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: going to dive into. 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 3: Just to sort of set the. 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: Scene, a couple of data points give you a sense 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: what's going on in America right now. Fourteen percent of Americans, 12 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: according to the Financial Times, that is one four fourteen 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 2: percent of Americans say they're better off financially today than 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: when Biden took office. Of homeowners who have bought a 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: home in the past year, according to USA Today, forty 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: six percent say they are struggling to pay their monthly 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: mortgage because rates are so high. So that's going on 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: right now. In the background of all this, we also 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: have a former President Trump talking about how when he wins, 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: if he wins, when he wins, you can pick in 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, he will round up large numbers of 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: undocumented as in illegal alien migrants and will send them 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: back to their countries of origin. So Trump now getting 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: very aggressive, very hawkish on border security as a policy 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: to institute. In twenty twenty five, so migrants arrived at 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: New York City's Floyd Bennett Field, which is a twenty 27 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: million dollar taxpayer funded facility for migrants in the New 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: York City area, and they said, no, they will not stay. 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: We'll discuss what that tells you about all this. Plus, 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 2: you had Secret Service agents who are protecting Biden's granddaughter 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: open fire in Georgetown when three people tried to break 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: into a Secret Service suv. I don't believe any suspects 33 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: in custody, and nobody nobody hit. 34 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 4: So it's, by the way, you feel good that the 35 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 4: Secret Service opened fire on peace in Georgetown, didn't hit 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 4: anybody and didn't catch anybody either. 37 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: No, no back. 38 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: I'm wondering at what distance did they open fire? First 39 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 2: of all, opening fire based on trying to get into 40 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: a vehicle. 41 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: Was she in the vehicle? 42 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 4: I mean that that alone. I was surprised she had 43 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 4: Secret Service protection. Honestly, she's the granddaughter of the president. 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 4: How many people actually know her? I mean, I understand kids. 45 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 4: I didn't know grandkids got Secret Service protection. 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder. 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: I wonder if Hunter Biden's child with the exotic dancer, 48 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 2: and therefore the exotic dancer. 49 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 4: The four year old in Arkansas, does she have secret 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 4: service protection? That would be that would be a Biden grandchild. Yes, 51 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 4: that would be a that's a true statement. I doubt 52 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 4: that they're a secret service protection for that family. Anyway, 53 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: you have San Francisco, believe it or not. 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: They can actually clean it up if they want to, 55 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: and they clean it up in time for a visit 56 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: from the world's biggest communist hij In Ping of China. 57 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: We shall discuss that, and there's some other interesting stories 58 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: we'll get to when we can out there, but we 59 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: want to start in the world of politics. 60 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: Oh let me not forget. 61 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: We have Julie Kelly with us in the second hour 62 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: about Trump trials and January sixth defendants, and then third 63 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: hour speaking of candidates. Viveke Ramaswami. Iways have fun because 64 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: you know Clay we say his name properly. There are 65 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: a lot of people out there still, including who work 66 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: in our field, who don't get his first name rights well. 67 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 4: And given how often we are called out for mispronunciations, 68 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 4: this is a big win to be able to pronounce 69 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 4: his name correctly while everyone else fails, so that this 70 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 4: will give us a lot more of that validity going 71 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 4: forward when we mispronounce things. If nothing else, I feel 72 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: like we get a high five from Viveke for knowing 73 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 4: that it's Viveke rhymes with cake and not the other 74 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 4: thing that people say, which is vivek Okay. But let's 75 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: start with this a surprise, a surprise campaign suspension from 76 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 4: over the weekend. One of the five who was five 77 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 4: right on the debate stage, Tim Scott of South Carolina. 78 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 4: Let's hear what he has to say about how well 79 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: it's not his time play too. 80 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 5: If you ever want to love your country more, run 81 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 5: for president. Traveling this country, meeting people has been one 82 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 5: of the most fantastic experiences of my entire life. I 83 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 5: love America more today than I did on May twenty second. 84 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 5: But when I go back to Iowa, it will not 85 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 5: be as a presidential candidate. I am suspending my campaign. 86 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 5: I think the voters, who are the most remarkable people 87 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 5: on the planet have been really clear that they're telling 88 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 5: me not now. 89 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: Tim. 90 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 5: I don't think they're saying trade no. But I do 91 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 5: think they're saying not now. And so I'm going to 92 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 5: respect the voters, and I'm going to hold on and 93 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 5: keep working really hard and look forward to another opportunity. 94 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: Play a respectable and honorable decision based on what the 95 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: polls are right now. I think he is listening to 96 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: the people. What now is Tim Scott's still a VP candidate? 97 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: And what about the others who are lagging in the polls. 98 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: I think one hundred percent he's still a VP candidate. 99 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: You and I we've had Tim Scott on this show 100 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: several times. Trump was very favorably disposed towards him. On Wednesday, 101 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, during our interview, he specifically mentioned 102 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 2: Tim Scott. 103 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: I think it's the right call. 104 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 4: I give him credit the same way that I give 105 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 4: Mike Penn's credit for looking at the data, making a 106 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 4: rational choice, recognizing that the numbers don't add up for you. 107 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: Now here's the question. 108 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 4: As we get ready for the fourth Republican debate in Tuscolosa, 109 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 4: Alabama in early December, I would imagine on the stage 110 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 4: the Veight Ramaswami, Nicki Haley, and Ron De Santis, and 111 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 4: let's open up phone lines on this because some of 112 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 4: you may disagree with me eight hundred and two two 113 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 4: two eight A two. 114 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 3: I think if you. 115 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 4: Don't come in a strong second place in Iowa, that's 116 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 4: presuming that you don't win it. Obviously, if Nicky Haley 117 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 4: or Ron de Santis, or for Eveke for that matter, 118 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 4: catch fire and ended up beating Trump, that's a different dynamic. 119 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 4: But Trump is a substantial favorite. As we sit here, 120 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 4: basically two months out from the Iowa caucus, I think 121 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 4: whoever comes in second should be the challenger of Trump 122 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 4: going forward, and everyone else should drop out. And look, 123 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 4: we've had Doug Bergham on the show. Asa Hutchinson, I 124 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 4: think is still in the race, Chris Christy is still 125 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 4: in the race. I think all three of those guys 126 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 4: should drop out and decide whether they want to endorse 127 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: someone else. But to me, right now, it looks like 128 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 4: Nicky Hayley versus Ron DeSantis for who is going to 129 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 4: become the alternative to Trump? And the big question, irrespective 130 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 4: of who the alternative is buck is does the alternative 131 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 4: have the juice to beat Trump head to head? We've 132 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: said for some time and I still think this is true, 133 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 4: that about fifty percent of our audience is Trump fifty percent? 134 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 3: Is somebody other than Trump? Nationwide? 135 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 4: As all of these primaries start Iowa the caucus, then 136 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 4: New Hampshire, then South Carolina. The math question and it's 137 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 4: basically a math question. Is there a content of the 138 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 4: Republican primary that that would vote against Trump? And any 139 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: of these candidates could they beat Trump head to head? 140 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 4: That's the question. 141 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: Nikki Haley taking out a ten million dollar ad buy 142 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: in Iowa that was just announced over the weekend, so 143 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: she's she's trying to go in. I think she realizes 144 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: play if DeSantis doesn't at least come in second in 145 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: Iowa and probably win, it's so it's all over, right, 146 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: I mean, based on the perception. 147 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: And if you think, I think you have to come 148 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 4: in second if you're DeSantis, I would argue, and I'm 149 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 4: curious whether our audience whether you would agree to if 150 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 4: you don't come in second. 151 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: Again, this is presuming you don't win. 152 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 4: If you don't come in at least second in Iowa, 153 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 4: I think you have to drop out because I think 154 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 4: it's hard to argue I'm going to win New Hampshire 155 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 4: or South Carolina otherwise. 156 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: Well, this is why I think Haley is trying to 157 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: make this big push into Iowa because she figures if 158 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: it could be Trump, then Haley. Then all of a sudden, 159 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: the narrative becomes there's only really one competitor to him 160 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: going into New Hampshire, and things can change pretty rapidly. 161 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: Here's Nikki Haley. She's saying that she is surging in 162 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: the polls. She's saying Trump has flatlight. She's calling out Trump. 163 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: This could get interesting, and DeSantis is falling. This is 164 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: cut three. 165 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 6: We are surging in the polls. Not only are we 166 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 6: surging in the polls, if you look in the swing states, 167 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 6: it shows that we beat Biden by ten to thirteen points. 168 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 6: We are now second place in Iowa's, second place in 169 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 6: New Hampshire, second place in South Carolina. There are no 170 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 6: other candidates that are going to be getting in the 171 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 6: race because now it's gotten too late. We have plenty 172 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 6: of money that we're going to be on TV with 173 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 6: and you're going to see that we're going to be strong, 174 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 6: not just in Iowa. We're going to be strong in Iowa, 175 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 6: We're going to be strong in New Hampshire. We're going 176 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 6: to be strong in South Carolina. Because we spent our money. Well, 177 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 6: we've got great ground games in every one of those states, 178 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 6: and we're going to keep surging. You've got Trump that's flatlined, 179 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 6: you've got DeSantis that's falling in the polls, and we 180 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 6: continue to go up. 181 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 2: Now, Clay, we're going to have Viveca later. I want 182 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: to have the Veke take on this Nicky Haley analysis. 183 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: But clearly she's trying to steal Governor DeSantis's lunch here 184 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: and become number two, become a sort of runner up, 185 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: so to speak to Trump to see if maybe she 186 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: can close that gap even more. 187 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, And then ultimately the question is whether it's Nicky 188 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: Haley or DeSantis. I don't think Viveke is going to 189 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 4: make a run and end up in second place. But 190 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 4: I think that with his performance in the debate, he 191 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 4: was the most power I thought. 192 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: I just want to ask him about Nicky Haley. I'm 193 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: not saying he's gonna Yeah. 194 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Iowa And again, if you disagree with this, 195 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 4: let me know. 196 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: I think Iowa should make. 197 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 4: It a determination on who is going to go head 198 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 4: to head with Trump, and everybody else should get out 199 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 4: of the race. And then the question becomes can Nicky Haley, 200 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 4: can Ron DeSantis could viveke Ramaswami on the outside, could 201 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 4: they beat Trump head to head? And again, the math 202 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 4: on that we talked about us a lot on Friday 203 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: because I think it's important, and Thursday we discussed it 204 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: as well. The math on this is a challenge for 205 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 4: any of the contenders because the let's talk about Tim Scott. 206 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 4: For instance, what did you say Tim Scott had in 207 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 4: Iowa nine percent in the most recent real clear politics. 208 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 3: I think it was single digits. 209 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, but okay, let's say let's say that, Let's just 210 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 4: say he's got seven or eight or nine percent in Iowa. 211 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 4: When he decides to step down, where did Tim Scott's 212 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 4: votes go? Like, how would you assess? This would be 213 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,119 Speaker 4: a good question for Tim Scott's I actually. 214 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: Don't have a I don't have like a strong sense 215 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 2: as to what the breakdown would be. I think there 216 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: are some Tim Scott voters who go Nicki Haley. I 217 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: think some go Rana san Just and some go Donald Trump. 218 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 4: Okay, So if that's true, and I don't think that's 219 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 4: a crazy take at all. I think that's somewhat rational 220 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 4: if that's true. The challenge on the math buck becomes. 221 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 4: As each of these guys or gals drop out, the 222 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 4: idea that all of their supporters are going to go 223 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 4: to someone else is less true. 224 00:10:59,080 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: Now. 225 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: I do think this is where the math becomes really 226 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 4: tough for Nicky Haley. And maybe we need to get 227 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 4: Nicky on and ask her whether or not this is true. 228 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: But I'm just yeah, let's get they have not asked 229 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: us for her to come Everyone else asks to come on. 230 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: I don't think her campaign has asked to come on. 231 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe you want to speak to a 232 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: huge radio audience, it might be a good idea. 233 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 4: Well, she came on a couple of months ago. I 234 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 4: don't remember exactly, but but she came on. I think 235 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 4: you might have been out that day we had her on. 236 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 4: But let me but yes, I agree. I think if 237 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 4: if I were a candidate, I'd be trying to get 238 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 4: on the show every opportunity I could. But my inclination 239 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: is that Nicky Haley supporters would tend to be more 240 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 4: anti Trump than Ron DeSantis supporters. And the reason why 241 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: I bring that up is if Ron DeSantis isn't in 242 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 4: the row, let's let's get calls on this. Who is 243 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 4: your second choice. Right, let's presume you don't get your 244 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 4: first choice. My inclination is that a lot of DeSantis 245 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 4: people would go to Trump. I think most Nicki Haley 246 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 4: people are very anti Trump. 247 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 3: Does that make sense to you buy that? 248 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: I think a lot of DeSantis number one pick folks 249 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: out there is and if they could get their choice, 250 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: it would be DeSantis voted for Trump twice, yes, and 251 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: would vote for him again. But they thought this time 252 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: around it was DeSantis's time. But they're willing to change 253 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: that to support Trump. I think if you're in I 254 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: think if you're a Nicky Haley person, some of them 255 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: might even consider, you know, Biden or I was gonna say, 256 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: or you know, one of the third party RFPA kind 257 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 2: of candidates we have. 258 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: I think you're very much more anti Trump. 259 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 4: Now, there could have been buck more of a battle 260 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 4: because the DeSantis Trump thing has gotten kind of nasty. 261 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 4: So I think we'll probably get some callers and emailers 262 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 4: and people who say I'm DeSantis and i hate Trump 263 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 4: and I'm not going to show up, you know, to 264 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 4: take your ball and go home. Contingent out there, I 265 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 4: don't buy that. I think a year from now, when 266 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 4: you actually look in and stand in the in the 267 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 4: ballot box, or you stand in front of your your 268 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 4: choice and you got like Joe Biden or or Donald Trump. 269 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 3: I think most of them women. 270 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: Are two candidates who drive the left the most insane 271 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: and who have who have taken the biggest swings, the 272 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: biggest punches at the left, Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis. Yeah, 273 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt about that. So there's 274 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: a there's an affinity there, there's the you know that, 275 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: there's a an understanding. I mean I think look, people 276 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: have called in and they've said they like Ron, but 277 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 2: they don't think this is his time. They recognize he's 278 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: a great governor. They just think that Trump is what 279 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: we need right now. You hear from a lot of 280 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: the acrimonious, oh just simper uh you know, yeah, the 281 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 2: sanctimonious and these things that people say, and you hear 282 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 2: that and you see that on Twitter. But I think 283 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 2: there are a lot more people who respect both of 284 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: those men and will be happy to vote for both 285 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: of them than any other two candidates you could line up. 286 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and remember and we'll talk more about this and 287 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 4: we'll take some of your calls, because I do think 288 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 4: the Tim Scott decision is a big one, not only 289 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 4: for Chris Christy, but for other people out there, including 290 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 4: the ve Gramaswamy, who will talk to in the third 291 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 4: hour live here on the program. But I think that 292 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 4: what we're seeing is a winnowing of the candidates, maybe 293 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 4: faster than people anticipated, because in sixteen so many people 294 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 4: held on for as long as they could. We're down, really, 295 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 4: I would say to four actual candidates. Now you want 296 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 4: an early Black Friday deal, how about a free Moto 297 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 4: G five G phone from Puretalk. No gimmicks, no trade 298 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 4: in necessary. 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Puretalk simply smarter wires insanity in an 317 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 4: insane world. The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 318 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: Third hour of Clay and Buck kicksaff right now, and 319 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: the New York Times with a big report from over 320 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: the weekend. Here's the headline, Sweeping raids, giant camps and 321 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: mass deportations inside Trump's twenty twenty five immigration plan. Now, 322 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: this is interesting when you break down the various pieces 323 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: of this Trump immigration policy. As I have been saying 324 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: to you, as we have been discussing with you here 325 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: on this show for well really the whole time we've 326 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: been on the show, the Biden border is the most 327 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: wide open and the most lawless and reckless border policy 328 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: that we have ever seen. We also recognize that the 329 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: cartels are becoming as rich from human trafficking as they 330 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: are from the drug smuggling of opioids that are killing 331 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: around one hundred thousand Americans a year at this point, 332 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: so this is a massive problem. Not to mention, there's 333 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: also the high likelihood that if any terrorist group wanted 334 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: to infiltrate the United States across the southern border, they 335 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: would have almost no difficulty in doing so, and that 336 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: brings us to what can be done about this. The 337 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: Democrats will do nothing other than continue the status quo 338 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: with even more resources to more rapidly process the people 339 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: illegally entering. Now, Donald Trump, if he were to win 340 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: and become president, has a very different plan clay, and 341 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: this goes to not only changing the incentive structure that are. 342 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: In place for people to cross into. 343 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: The US illegally, but the entire immigration system all of 344 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: a sudden would be rule of law based, which seems 345 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: like a shock. He would this is all, according to 346 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: The New York Times, scour the country for unauthorized immigrants, 347 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 2: deport people by the millions per year. To help speed 348 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,479 Speaker 2: mass deportations, mister Trump is preparing an enormous expansion of 349 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 2: a form of removal that does not require due process hearings. 350 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 2: He would reassign other federal agents and deputize local police 351 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: and National Guard voluntarily contributed by Republican states. So the 352 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 2: State of Texas wants to help out. State of Texas 353 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: resources will be used for this process. He wants to 354 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: build huge camps to detain people while their cases are 355 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: processed and they await deportation. No more catch and release 356 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: into the US, never to be seen again. He would, 357 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: if necessary, play to get around or refusal by Congress, 358 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: redirect money in the military budget toward this process, and 359 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: do so using his authority as commander in chief. And 360 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: he would follow quote the Eisenhower model, which was the 361 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: largest domestic deportation operation American history back in nineteen fifty four. 362 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 3: And oh also end birthright citizenship. That's the key. That's 363 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 3: the key to me, and. 364 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: I'm trying to make sure we get all the maid 365 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 2: that's a big one. Foreign students who participate in anti 366 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: Israeli pro Palestinian protests would have their visas canceled, ending 367 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: birthright citizenship. Okay, those are the main points, Clay. 368 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: This would be a map. 369 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: I mean, the biggest change an immigration policy we've seen 370 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 2: in this country in our lifetimes. 371 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 4: I'd just focused for a long time on incentives because 372 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 4: that's really all you can kind of analyze, and the 373 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 4: incentives in America are broken in terms of trying to 374 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 4: stop illegal immigration. There are two primary incentives, and I 375 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 4: think this is important to hammer home time after time. 376 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: One is, there are far more jobs that are high 377 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 4: paying here in the United States than there are in 378 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 4: any of the countries that the people are trying to 379 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 4: enter from. It's very difficult to stop that incentive from existing. 380 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 3: It just is. 381 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 4: Second one, though, birthright citizenship must end, and I've heard 382 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: Vivak speak out aggressively on this. It's important to just 383 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 4: have this debate and this conversation. There is no reasonable, 384 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 4: rational process by which we should allow you to become 385 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 4: a citizen solely based on being born in the United States. 386 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 4: That is so called right of soil citizenship. If your 387 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 4: parents are citizens, you should be a citizen. That's I think, 388 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 4: without dispute, no matter where you're born around the world. 389 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 4: But you shouldn't be able to become a United States 390 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 4: citizen just because somebody sneaks into the country and is 391 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 4: illegally here and has a baby, and we have to 392 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 4: end it, and the camps and all those other things. 393 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 4: I think that's going to be very hard to implement. 394 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 4: Speaking rationally, and remember Trump would only have four years 395 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 4: to do all of this. I think it's an important 396 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 4: battle to fight, but I think birthright citizenship is the 397 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 4: one that it's supremely important to win and ultimately buck. 398 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 4: That would go all the way to the Supreme Court, 399 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 4: and the Supreme Court would have to analyze whether right 400 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 4: of soil citizenship should exist and is in fact the 401 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 4: United States law or not. It's, in my opinion not, 402 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 4: and that is one of the two major incentives that 403 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 4: we could address. What about the deportation of massive numbers 404 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 4: of people, the deputizing of state and local law enforcement 405 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 4: that's willing to help in that process, and the immediate 406 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 4: removal of individuals using whatever authorities the president has under 407 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 4: executive authority, so that they're either put in a camp 408 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 4: to wait deportation or deported as soon as they crossed 409 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 4: the border illegally. I like the concept, I think in 410 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 4: practice it would be very difficult to implement. 411 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 3: Tell me more why I think getting so. 412 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 4: First of all, you're gonna let's say that we know 413 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 4: that there are twenty million illegals here, right let's say 414 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 4: that's the number, and that might be low. Do you 415 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 4: know how many plane flights it would take to get 416 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 4: twenty million illegals deported out of the United States? 417 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 3: Most of these people would have to be flown somewhere. 418 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 4: I don't know that we have the capacity to even 419 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 4: move that number of people out of the United States. 420 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: It wouldn't be it wouldn't be twenty million in a year, obviously, 421 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 2: but what about. 422 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 4: Even over four years? Just do the math on it. 423 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 4: I'm not sure that we have the capacity to I 424 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 4: mean just think. I mean, a standard plane could put 425 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 4: what two hundred and fifty people on it well to. 426 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: Get to Yeah, I mean obviously this would be a 427 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 2: large scale process. That's why they brought up the Eisenhower 428 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: deportation proceedings back in the fifty or the deportation plan. 429 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 2: How many did they deport then, I have I'd have 430 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 2: to look it up hundreds, But now I think I 431 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 2: think it might have gotten over a million. But the 432 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: issue here, clay would become first of all, in any 433 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: given year, I mean, if you look at like the 434 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: Obama years, they're deporting in the in the hundreds of thousands. Yeah, 435 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: that's not that's not that, that's not that strange. And 436 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: to the point about incentives, and we talk about birthright citizenship, 437 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 2: that's obviously a. 438 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: Big change and should be a big change. 439 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 2: You should not be able to play this game of 440 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: I came to the US illegal, I had a child here, 441 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: I violate the law. 442 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: But now that's a citizen. 443 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 2: And we know this because there are people who are 444 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 2: criminally prosecuted for operating, you know, operations. And this is 445 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 2: more in the context of of Asian birth tourism to 446 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 2: the US, specifically from China. You're not allowed to do that. Well, 447 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 2: why aren't you allowed to do that? If that's not 448 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: a problem, right, Well, clearly there's an issue here. But 449 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: I think if you start to dramatically increase the number 450 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 2: of deportations, that also very much changes the calculation for 451 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: people coming here illegally, because right now, if you get 452 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: into the country, it's like a ninety some percent chance 453 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 2: you're gonna get to stayeah, And so if it's a 454 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 2: nine out of ten shot that if you can just 455 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 2: get here you can stay, you're gonna have endless amounts 456 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: of people who come. 457 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: You have to. 458 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 2: Create a reality where there's rule of law and the 459 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: deportation numbers are high enough that people say, I might 460 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: go through all this and then decide then decide that, 461 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 2: or I might geld, send back and clay some of 462 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: the migrants. 463 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 3: This was in New York City. 464 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: They showed up to Floyd Bennett Field, which has been 465 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 2: turning into a twenty million dollar migrant facility. 466 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 3: They refuse to go into this facility. 467 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 2: They say this facility isn't nice enough, and this just 468 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 2: goes and others are saying the American dream is dead. 469 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: New York Post was doing some reporting on this. If 470 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 2: you're an asylum seeker, it's supposed to be please please 471 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 2: take me America, because if you don't, I'm going to 472 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: be imprisoned, tortured and killed for my race, my religion, 473 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: my political belief something like that. And what we see 474 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: with these individuals who were like, wait a second, I 475 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 2: thought I was getting a four star hotel in Midtown 476 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: Manhattan paid for by the taxpayer, and getting a job 477 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 2: permit and getting free food and free healthcare and free housing. 478 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: Is they're here because it's a giant welfare state. They're 479 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: here because they can skip the immigration process. They're not 480 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 2: actually asylum seekers, not only that. This is why I 481 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 2: come back to Incientives. 482 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 4: Do you remember when we talked about they were taking 483 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 4: over the Brooklyn Park and they were putting all of. 484 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: These people in this facility. 485 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 4: They had access to a swimming pool, they had Wi Fi, 486 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 4: they had every meal, and they were able to go 487 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 4: work and everything else. If I told you right now, 488 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 4: and you're out there listening and it's summer, right when 489 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 4: the weather's better in New York City, hey, you're going 490 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 4: to get stay in New York City. You're going to 491 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 4: get to have access to a pool, You're going to 492 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 4: have Wi Fi, and all of your meals are going 493 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 4: to be covered, and you may be able to stay 494 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 4: in a three or four star hotel. That sounds like 495 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 4: to almost everybody out there listening, an incredible summer family vacation. 496 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 3: And that's people who are already living in America. 497 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 4: And conceivably have the ability to live with American values, 498 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 4: already American wealth. In other words, you're not stunned when 499 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 4: you walk into a Walmart and all the things that 500 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 4: you can purchase. 501 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 3: Imagine when you. 502 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: Got a telephone call from your friend who went north 503 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 4: and you're stuck in Venezuela and he says hey, man, 504 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 4: you know I can look out my window and see 505 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: the downtown New York City skyline. I took the kids 506 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 4: over to walk around Times Square. We've got Wi Fi. 507 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: I'm calling you right now FaceTime. I'm making twenty X 508 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 4: when I was making in Venezuela. They're feeding us three 509 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 4: square meals. My kids can even go to a swimming pool. 510 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 4: How would you not think if you got that call 511 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 4: that America was the land of milk and honey, and 512 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 4: if you could leave Venezuela you would. And this is 513 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 4: why I send this on Hannity the other night. Just 514 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 4: take it outside of America. How many of our listeners 515 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 4: right now if you were told, hey, if you go 516 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 4: walk across into Canada, you can make forty X whatever 517 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 4: you're making in America right now, and you will be 518 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 4: taken care of three square meals. You'll be able to 519 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 4: stay in a four star hotel while you get your 520 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 4: family life in order. I mean, buck, there are tons 521 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 4: of people out there listening to us right now that 522 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 4: will relocate to make ten or fifteen or twenty thousand 523 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 4: dollars more a year for their jobs, to a new state, 524 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 4: to a new city. If you could forty x your 525 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 4: salary by crossing into our northern neighbor there, Canada. Tens 526 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 4: of millions of Americans would do that. So the incentive 527 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 4: structure is a challenge because our lifestyle is so much 528 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 4: better than the lifestyle the people that are coming here. 529 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 2: And this is why you need to send people back 530 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: in large enough numbers that more people don't just keep 531 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: and coming illegally. This isn't even talking about the million 532 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: people a year who come in through the legal process, 533 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: whether it's you know, Green card holders, US citizenans, et cetera. 534 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 2: We take in a large number of people through the 535 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 2: legal immigration process. This is just all dealing with the 536 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: illegal immigration process and the way that the system is 537 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: being abused. And I think that the more people understand 538 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 2: that a program set up out of the kindness and 539 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 2: generosity of the American spirit to allow people to escape 540 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: genocidal regimes. I mean, when you're really talking about asylum, that's. 541 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 3: What you know. 542 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: You know, I'm escaping the Khmer rouge. Please you know 543 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: I'm a Cambodian refugee. Please take me in, otherwise me 544 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: and my family are dead. That's what asylum is for. 545 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: Asylum is not I'm from you know, Latin America, or 546 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 2: I'm from West Africa, or I'm from Southeast Asia or whatever, 547 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: and I want to be in America because you have 548 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: a better economy and I have a better future there. 549 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 2: That's the immigration process, as in, you should apply to 550 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 2: be an America immigrant, and there are a lot of 551 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: people that want that. Unfortunately, we can't take everybody. 552 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 4: And the other part of this that's so huge is 553 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 4: the number of people that are coming across our southern border. 554 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 4: It used to be buck a lot of people from Mexico. 555 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 4: You come across seasonally, you get a job, you go 556 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 4: back home. Now people are coming from so far away, 557 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 4: they're here forever. They're not going to go back to Mexico. 558 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 4: They're not here for you know, the seasonal purposes over 559 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 4: from Mexico. 560 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 3: Very few of them from Mexico. 561 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 2: They're from Yes, they're from Thailand, they're from Pakistan, they're 562 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: from the Ivory Coast. 563 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 3: I mean, they're from all over the world. 564 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 4: Yes, So the idea of them ever going back voluntarily 565 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 4: is virtually non existent. 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Viveke. 593 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 2: We just had the debate and you had some of 594 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: the most memorable moments. We talked about it here on 595 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: the show. Haven't seen a lot of movement in the polls. 596 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: Tim Scott just dropped out, what is your pathway to victory? 597 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: What do you say to those who are telling you 598 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: at this point it's just not going to happen. 599 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 3: The numbers aren't there. 600 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 7: Well, I think the numbers could be there. I'm not 601 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 7: some horse race analyst. I'm a guy who's here to 602 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 7: speak the truth, do it in an unapologetic way. And 603 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 7: I think the idea is that I'm offering in the campaign, 604 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 7: the vision that I'm offering, I don't think any other 605 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 7: candidates to bring it to the table. Two America First 606 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 7: candidates in the race. I think it will be an 607 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 7: America First nominee for sure. Obviously that's Donald Trump and myself. 608 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 7: But I am from the next generation. I have fresh 609 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 7: leg and I think it's we live in a moment 610 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 7: where it's going to take in America first leader from 611 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 7: that next generation to move this country forward. And unlike 612 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 7: the other professional politicians in this race who have been 613 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 7: known quantities for years, you know, for most people in 614 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 7: this country, they had no idea who I was six 615 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 7: months ago. So I'm patient on this. It's going to 616 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 7: be a longer sales cycle, okay, But I think that 617 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 7: that's something that I believe belongs to the voters, and 618 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 7: as they get to know me, they'll be able to 619 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 7: make a choice between a lot of everyone in that 620 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 7: candidate on that stage, there's one that was not like 621 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 7: the others. That was me, And I think it's going 622 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 7: to take time and comfort for people to develop to 623 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 7: say that, you know, somebody thirty eight years old being 624 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 7: the next president of the United States. That's a little 625 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 7: out of the box. People are intrigued by it. But 626 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 7: Thomas Jefferson was thirty three years old when he wrote 627 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 7: the Decorporation of Independence. That's the kind of country we are, 628 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 7: and I do think we live in a moment where 629 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 7: we need to revive the ideals the nation itself was 630 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 7: founded on. I think we can and I'm a candidate 631 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 7: who I think is going to be position to do it. 632 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 4: We're talking to Vivey Gramaswami memorably on Wednesday night, he 633 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 4: was called scum by Nicki Haley, and you've spun that 634 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 4: in your favor. I believe you are now selling rebel 635 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 4: scum t shirts, which is very funny. I give credit 636 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 4: to your team for that. I bet you've sold quite 637 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 4: a few of them. Yes, you've since gone after Nicki 638 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 4: Haley quite a lot. I've watched some of those clips. 639 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 4: And where do you think a couple of parts here, 640 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 4: where do you think the animus from Nicki Haley comes? 641 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 4: Because it feels like she's gone after you way more 642 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 4: aggressively than you've gone after her. 643 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 3: And second part of that, it looks a little personal Vivike. 644 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 4: Just to throw that out there, rdinals, would you vote 645 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 4: for Nicki Haley if she were the nominee for the 646 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 4: Republican Party? 647 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 7: She's not going to be the nominee and she should 648 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 7: come nowhere between anywhere within spitting distance of the White House. 649 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 7: And I'll tell you why I've been the biggest critic 650 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 7: of the Biden administration. I'm only Republican. I think it 651 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 7: just had to courage to speak the hard truth on this, 652 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 7: which is that the Biden administration sews off our foreign 653 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 7: policy to make their family rich. That's the hard truth. 654 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,719 Speaker 7: We would not be sending money in the way we 655 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 7: are if Hunter Biden had not gotten us the bride 656 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 7: from Ukraine. But the problem with Nikki Haley is she's 657 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 7: just a Republican version of the same where the woman 658 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 7: claims to be an accountant, left the un swimming in 659 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 7: personal debt, then becomes a military contractor, then joins the 660 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 7: board of Boeing that then gives a secretive speaks now 661 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 7: is collecting stock options from companies literally in the middle 662 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 7: of a presidential campaign. I don't think that's ever happened 663 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,719 Speaker 7: in US history to my knowledge. And just like Biden 664 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 7: is a multi millionaire, so the World War three than 665 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 7: we've ever been and these people are going to march 666 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 7: us there, the Bidens, the Haleys, the Dick Cheney two 667 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 7: point zeros, the neocons that pervade both parties. It is 668 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 7: an ideological and generational difference and divide, and she represents 669 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 7: everything in my view that's wrong with American politics. And 670 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 7: come near the white I don't care if she has. 671 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 4: An R after her name or not, So would you 672 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 4: vote for her if she were the nominee? 673 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 7: Then I think I will be a failed American if 674 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 7: I'm running for US president and this individual comes anywhere 675 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 7: near becoming the nominee. It's not going to happen. And 676 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 7: I think that the American people see in the truth. 677 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 7: I think need to actually be crystal clear about making 678 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 7: sure that just because you get Hillary Clinton, if she 679 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 7: called a publican, I don't think that that would cause 680 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 7: me to vote for Hillary Clinton. 681 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 4: Why do you think she dislikes you so much? Because 682 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 4: it does seem personal, like the way that she's gone 683 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 4: after you. I mean, you raised the point that her 684 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 4: daughter is on TikTok, her daughter's grown, and she was 685 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 4: I mean, this is not acting right. She seems to 686 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 4: genuinely not like you. Where do you think that comes from. 687 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 7: I think it comes from a deep seated envy of swords. Actually, 688 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 7: I mean as the woman who's never made an honest 689 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 7: dime in the private sector but clearly inspires to be 690 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 7: wealthy and sees me as I think a young buck 691 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 7: who has not I mean then in the buck sense. 692 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 3: Of I get you, I get you. 693 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, A young Buck, who you know, I think hasn't 694 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 7: put in the kind of earned the kind of stripes 695 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 7: that someone like her has, you know, funny stories. The 696 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 7: first time we met was actually her reaching out to 697 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 7: me years ago when I was writing woke in. Actually, Buck, 698 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 7: this is when you and I first met the in 699 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 7: the prey line. 700 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 2: We did that awesome event up in Milwaukee for like 701 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred people. 702 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 3: That was great. 703 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 7: That was awesome, right, So this is I think, actually 704 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 7: if I'm remembering right before the book came out, or 705 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 7: it was in the run up to the book coming out, 706 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 7: and she reaches out spontaneously because I was starting to 707 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 7: begin to get attention as a CEO who was pointing 708 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 7: out the perils of corporate wokeness long before people knew 709 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 7: what that word was, and there was something striping about it. 710 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 7: I mean, she was. It was a very calculating move, right, 711 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 7: this guy could be a player. I want to be 712 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 7: the first person probably to reek out to make sure 713 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 7: from getting him on my stop ends up blurbing the 714 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 7: back of the book. So this is somebody who for 715 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 7: her entire career has proven she will do literally and 716 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,479 Speaker 7: you can look at the full extent of her past 717 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 7: in South Carolina, she will do literally whatever is required 718 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 7: to get ahead, and I think scratching the backs of 719 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 7: companies for special favors. Boeing got their back scratched by her. 720 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 7: She ends up joining the board of Boeing, afterwards rides 721 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 7: on Price and them pharmaceutical company, and then ends up 722 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 7: doing special state contracts for them, and other details which 723 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 7: I will leave it to others to look up that 724 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 7: are outside the financial realm. But somebody who will literally 725 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 7: do anything to get ahead for another unit to froll in. 726 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 7: Her reach out to me years ago and establishing contact 727 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 7: when I early began to be a rising star was 728 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 7: just another example of that. But to her now to 729 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 7: say that out of turn to challenge her past the power, 730 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 7: I think that she does take that very personally. But 731 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 7: you know, frankly, even in this conversation, I think we've 732 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 7: spent too much airtime on somebody who is really just 733 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 7: another manifestation of a modern Dick Cheney that has no 734 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 7: place in the modern Republican party or should. 735 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you. 736 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, since that last debate, a lot of people have 737 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 2: been wondering what your your and her true feelings are 738 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 2: about each other in this race. So we appreciate that 739 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 2: you've at least had your say on this one. And 740 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 2: I did want to ask, you know, we spoke to 741 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 2: former President Trump last week, Clay and I for an 742 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 2: hour here on the air, and he seemed fired up 743 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 2: for the fight ahead and unfazed by all the legal 744 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 2: challenges against him. And you know, I think that there's 745 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 2: we've been talking about second choice candidates for different people, 746 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: and and you know where the support ebbs and flows 747 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 2: for different candidates. A lot of Trump people like you 748 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,479 Speaker 2: a lot, and a lot of people that maybe even 749 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 2: your their first choice, would say, well, Trump is my 750 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 2: second choice. What do you say to anybody who says 751 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 2: that this just isn't your time. Let Trump finish the race. 752 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 2: You can help him, and then you can be in 753 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 2: a position for the next round. 754 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 7: Look, I think that decision belongs to the voters of 755 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 7: this country. I mean, I respect Donald Trump immensely, and 756 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 7: he and I have a good relationship with mutual respect. 757 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 7: He was an excellent president and the reason he's polling 758 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 7: so well right now is he kept us out of 759 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 7: World War three and he grew the economy. So I've 760 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 7: unlike the other candidates and actually guys. This is actually 761 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 7: one that that's kind of funny to me, is every 762 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 7: other candidate, from Nikki to Ron to otherwise licked his 763 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 7: boot for some special favors for years, usually money or 764 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 7: endorsements are both, And now is Monday Morning quarterbacking him 765 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 7: on some small thing that he didn't do perfectly. Yeah, 766 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,439 Speaker 7: I'm my contrast, I've not licked trump boot Trump's boot 767 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 7: for years, even in that Woking book tour, I sat 768 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 7: down at dinner with him, But I've never sucked up 769 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 7: to the guy before. But I stand actually for his 770 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 7: record now when everybody else after him, not because in 771 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 7: myself interest in this race to do it be easier 772 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 7: for me DoD from competition, but it's the right thing 773 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 7: to do affect him. There's two America First candidates. But 774 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 7: I think the voters deserve to get the choice they have, 775 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 7: which is do you want the prior generation of it? 776 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 7: Or do you want the next generation of it? And 777 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 7: I think I have fresh legs. I'm able to reach 778 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 7: the next generation in the new generation. So I can't 779 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 7: offer what Trump does, which is to say experience, He's 780 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 7: you know, done it before, that's tried and true. And 781 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 7: if that's what people want to go with. Then he's 782 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 7: going to be the nominee. 783 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 3: I think we. 784 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 7: Think we're lost, and do we want to reach him? 785 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 4: The vague last question for you, I presume that you're 786 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 4: going to be on the stage in December. Uh, do 787 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 4: you think anybody else should drop out? In your mind? 788 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 4: Tim Scott is out. I saw you had nice words 789 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 4: about him. I know it seemed that you guys got 790 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 4: along and had a decent rapport on the stage for. 791 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 2: The debate state. 792 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 7: Can you hear me? 793 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 794 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you think you're going to qualify for the debate 795 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 4: stage in December? And do you think anybody else should 796 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 4: drop out? I heard him say he's already qualified. But 797 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 4: I think we I think we've had a bad sell 798 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 4: connection here. 799 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. 800 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 2: Maybe Nikki Haley's people are sabotaging the cell towers or something. 801 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 2: Something crazy is happening. She called Boeing. 802 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 3: We'll come back. We'll let you all react. 803 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 4: We appreciate Viveake hanging out with us, a lot of 804 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:06,959 Speaker 4: interesting things that he said. 805 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 2: We'll let you weigh in as well. Can I also 806 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 2: say we will reach out to because he was taking 807 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,959 Speaker 2: some swings there. We will reach out to the Nicky 808 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 2: Haleys campaign. We'll bring her on the show, let her 809 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 2: respond everything that he said, and also make her case 810 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 2: for why she should be the nominee. We are open 811 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 2: for him for all Republican candidates here who are still 812 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 2: in the mix. So we'll put out the call the 813 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 2: Nicky Haley's team. Let's see if she comes on. Because 814 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 2: the Vike was not holding back play. 815 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 4: He brought the hacksaw Jim dug in two by four 816 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 4: old school WWE Then WWF fans will certainly remember that, 817 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 4: So we will take some of your calls, will close 818 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 4: up the shop there in the next segment, and I 819 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 4: think there probably will be a lot of reaction to 820 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 4: that commentary. But I want to tell you every year 821 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 4: more of us pledge to save more spin less. But 822 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 4: that's hard to do when you're paying inflated prices for 823 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 4: everyday essential It's like gas and groceries. 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By the way, 842 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 4: Vevekas called us back, We'll finish up the show with him. 843 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 4: Download the app Upside app Today. 844 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 1: Need a break from follozis a little comedy to counter 845 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: the craziness, So no The Sunday Hang a weekend podcast 846 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: to lighten things up a bit. Find it in the 847 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio, Apple or 848 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,240 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 849 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show Vivike Ramaswami 850 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 4: with us now better line going to finish out the program, Vivek. 851 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 4: When we finished the last segment, I was asking if 852 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 4: you'd be on the stage for the fourth debate, whether 853 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 4: you've qualified, and have you had any conversations with Roni 854 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 4: McDaniel since you asked her to go ahead and resign 855 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 4: over what you considered to be a failed RNC leadership. 856 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 7: So I have qualified for the fourth debate and I 857 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 7: will be on there in early December. I think I'll 858 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 7: be similarly unrestrained both on that debate stage and for 859 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 7: the rest of this race, because I think that kind 860 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 7: of honesty is what's required in our country. Ron and 861 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 7: I have not spoken directly. 862 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 3: It is interesting. 863 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 7: I've seen her on the national press so and I 864 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,040 Speaker 7: think she's in mayway has proven my point in the 865 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 7: aftermath of the calling on her to resign, just for 866 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 7: some shread of accountability in our party. Since she took 867 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 7: over in twenty seventeen, we lost in twenty eighteen, twenty 868 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,720 Speaker 7: twenty two, and twenty twenty three, all disastrous results for Republicans. 869 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 7: So yeah, I do think there should be some accountability. 870 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 7: But she, you know, reportedly that night at the debate. 871 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 7: On press reports, people in the roads sitting near her 872 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 7: say she was booing while I was speaking in other 873 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 7: parts of the debate, interesting thing for an R and 874 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 7: C chairwoman to be doing. Said that I would not 875 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 7: give another cent from the RNC. Somebody treating it like 876 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 7: it's their own money proves the point that it's their 877 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 7: corruption of the institution. It's like a squad or in 878 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 7: a rent controlled apartment that starts to bear the illusion 879 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 7: that they own the place. So that situation reminds me 880 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 7: of I think she went on Fox and flat out 881 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 7: set on national television that I voted for Obama dead false, 882 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 7: never done it in my life, of course, and yet 883 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 7: you have the chairwoman of the RNC saying that about 884 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 7: a candidate actor in a race. So I think since 885 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 7: then she's done an outstanding job of continuing to prove 886 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 7: my point, saying that they weren't involved in the state races, 887 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 7: that Virginia didn't want their money. Virginia Gop contradicted that 888 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 7: instantly said she didn't play in the state races. It's 889 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 7: now come out that she was involved in the Kentucky races, 890 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,879 Speaker 7: and the R and C was, so we haven't shorn 891 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 7: into we haven't spoken directly, but in the in the 892 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 7: barbs she's been trying to issue in the media, I 893 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 7: think she's been scoring a lot of own goals and 894 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 7: proving the point that it's time for new leadership at 895 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 7: the RNC. 896 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 3: The vague you set up. 897 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 2: On the debate stage that you and I don't want 898 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 2: to miss quote you, but basically it's not going to 899 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 2: be Biden, that whoever wins up here is facing off 900 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 2: against I will say, just for the purpose of clarity, 901 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 2: I disagree with you on this point, but I want 902 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 2: to know why you're so confident Clay agrees with you, 903 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 2: just so you know. Yeah, say you got Clay in 904 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 2: your corner for whatever, for whatever that's worth. But I'm 905 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 2: on the other side of this one. I'm I'm in 906 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,439 Speaker 2: the other corner. Why are you confident that it won't 907 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 2: be Biden? And more importantly than that, I actually, you know, 908 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 2: let's get that, we all know why he's falling around, 909 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 2: he's too old, all that. But what happens if it's 910 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 2: not Biden? What do you think happens? I mean, you're 911 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 2: in this race, so you've got to be looking a 912 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 2: few steps down. 913 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, The part of the reason that Berthes have a 914 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 7: strong instinct about this is, you know that document's case 915 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 7: against Biden, you don't hear a ton about it. That 916 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 7: probe on Hunter Biden, you don't hear a ton about it. 917 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 7: They've purposefully kept that in purgatory in sort of a 918 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 7: middle halfway position, such that if he doesn't get out 919 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 7: of the way when the managerial class and the deep 920 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 7: state and the puppet masters of both parties, including the DNC, 921 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 7: wanted to get out of the way, that's when they 922 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 7: pull those levers. And they're perfectly prime to do it, 923 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 7: because they could say, oh, now we're just applying it 924 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 7: in a bypart of the manner. Could we did it 925 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 7: to Trump? When the reality is that had nothing to 926 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 7: do with the Republican the Democrat, and everything to do 927 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 7: with the shadow government and the deep state deciding who 928 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 7: actually was going to be the convenient puppet they were 929 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 7: going to be advancing. And so the reality is, I 930 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 7: think the way they see it is they're going to 931 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 7: wait for the Trump trials to really get underway and 932 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 7: then swap out Biden for the person likely Newsome, if 933 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 7: not somebody else. It's going to be like him that 934 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 7: they slipped into that spot, and I think the country 935 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 7: would better sort they were stepped up and we're honest 936 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 7: about it. So I'll call out the RNC, I'll call 937 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 7: out the Democrats, I'll call out the media. It's the 938 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 7: truth three hundred and sixty degrees around and that one 939 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 7: is my honest instinct of what's going to happen. 940 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 4: Last question for you, appreciate you making the time today. 941 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 4: You've been one hundred percent right on something Buck and 942 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,959 Speaker 4: I have been hammering for a while too, the Nashville Manifesto, 943 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,720 Speaker 4: the trans shooter that it needs to be one hundred 944 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 4: percent released. We saw a few pages of it. There 945 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 4: is a desperate fight to prevent that from being released 946 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 4: to the American public. 947 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 3: What should happen? Why do you think it's being covered up? 948 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 7: Release it period. We the people can handle the truth. 949 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 7: We've been lied to from the premise of the war 950 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 7: in I Rock to the Trump Russia collusion hoax that 951 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 7: never was. That's why I called Kristen Welker on stage 952 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 7: on NBC. I called her out on it. They pushed 953 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 7: that for years. We need accountability for that. The Hunter 954 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 7: Biden laptop story that was real, the origin of COVID nineteen. 955 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 7: How many FED agents were in the field on January sixth. 956 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 7: Just tell us the truth, even when it's ugly. We 957 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 7: deserve the truth. That's how we rebuild trusts in this country. 958 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 7: I went to Nashville personally in early August when the 959 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 7: Republican governor called a special legislative session to pass anti 960 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 7: gun measures. You have no right to pass additional laws 961 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 7: without the using this as a catalyst to do it, 962 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,760 Speaker 7: without releasing to the public the truth of what actually 963 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 7: happened here. When an airplane crashes, you recover the black 964 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 7: box because you want to make sure something like that 965 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 7: never happens again. But when it's a transgender shooter shooting 966 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 7: up six people at a Christian school, somehow, that's the 967 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 7: basis for hiding it. 968 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 2: Vake Ramaswami, everybody but vague. We got to leave it there, 969 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 2: my friends. At the end of the show, thanks for 970 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 2: being here with us. 971 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 3: Team. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Welcome back in. 972 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 4: She is Julie Kelly, a one woman truth machine amidst 973 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 4: a barrage of lawes, and we are happy to have 974 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 4: her as often on the show as we do. 975 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 3: And Julie I believe it was. Over the weekend. 976 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 4: You shared a story that we've talked about some on 977 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 4: this show that I think is significant, and I want 978 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 4: you to break it down for your audience. Donald Trump 979 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 4: and his legal team have decided they want the trial 980 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 4: surrounding jan six the March trial day it is set for. 981 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 4: They want it all on television. They want cameras in 982 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 4: the courtroom. They want you and me and everybody out 983 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 4: there to be able to watch. It's being opposed by 984 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 4: Jack Smith and the Department of Justice. 985 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 3: I think this is so telling. 986 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 4: What is the latest on these filings, what's the timeframe, 987 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 4: and how would you assess the idea of cameras in 988 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 4: the courtroom and what this battle is really about. 989 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 8: Yes, it's interesting. And Jack Smith just filed another motion 990 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 8: that sounds more like a temper tantrum again opposing a 991 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 8: lawsuit that was filed by what's called the Press Coalition, 992 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 8: And this is about fifteen of the largest major news 993 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 8: organizations and they have filed similar motions in other high 994 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,319 Speaker 8: profiled January sixth trials, only to be turned down. But 995 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 8: they are asking Judge Tanya Chutkin, who is overseeing the 996 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 8: January sixth case, to allow at least one pool camera 997 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 8: in the courtroom so they can broadcast live the proceedings 998 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 8: if that's not allowed, and typically that is prohibited in 999 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,359 Speaker 8: federal criminal trials. They have asked for at least an 1000 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 8: audio feed, which ironically the DC Appellate Court allows. They 1001 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 8: have a YouTube channel so you can hear the proceedings live, Jacksmith, 1002 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 8: The Special Council is opposed to any measure that would 1003 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 8: allow the American people to hear or see, unfiltered by 1004 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 8: the corporate media, the odd proceedings of this very important, 1005 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 8: obviously unprecedented criminal trial against a former president and the 1006 00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 8: presumptive Republican presidential nominee. And so he filed again today 1007 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 8: and believe get this, and of course the DOJ makes 1008 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 8: this comparison all the time. They compare his trial to 1009 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:14,280 Speaker 8: that of Timothy mcveay of the Sarnef Brothers and Zacharius Musawi, 1010 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 8: also considered the twentieth hijacker for nine to eleven. You 1011 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 8: have yet again this Department of Justice comparing Donald Trump 1012 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 8: to murderous, murderous terrorists responsible for the death of thousands 1013 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 8: of Americans, including children. And they cited those cases as 1014 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,280 Speaker 8: a justification to keep cameras and even audio recording devices 1015 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 8: out of Timey Chutkin's courtroom. 1016 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 2: Julie's bock, thanks for being with us and ever to 1017 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 2: check out Julie's substack Declassified subscribe to it gives you 1018 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 2: great insights and information as all this moves along. So 1019 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 2: in terms of how don't we keep we have to 1020 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 2: keep coming back to this, but it does make a 1021 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 2: big difference. Scheduling the DC trial, scheduling the Florida trial. 1022 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 2: I know there was an update recently in Florida, or 1023 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,720 Speaker 2: at least it seems like that's going to be perhaps moved. 1024 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 2: Is DC the January sixth trial with Chuckkin Judge Chuckkin presiding, 1025 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 2: still looking like that's going to happen, or are there 1026 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 2: any big motions that we should expect coming up here 1027 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 2: that might move it? And what about South Florida? 1028 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 8: Right, see's at the two criminal indictments, the classified documents 1029 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 8: indictment that was handed down in June and Southern Florida 1030 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 8: and then the January sixth slash slash election indictment that 1031 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 8: was handed down August. First, Well, what DOJ asked is 1032 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 8: even though the January sixth indictment came after Classified Documents. 1033 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 8: They asked Judge Chuckkin to fast track that trial, and 1034 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 8: that is scheduled for March fourth. Judge Cannon in the 1035 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 8: Florida case had already set a May twentieth trial date 1036 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 8: before the indicted Donald Trump on January sixth. So now 1037 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 8: she has come back, and she confronted the DOJ a 1038 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 8: few weeks squad within her Florida courtroom. She is very 1039 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 8: tough on dj on like most federal judges, and she 1040 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 8: pushed back on the idea that the DC trials it's 1041 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 8: supposed to start March fourth, could very easily interfere with 1042 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 8: the May twentieth trial date for Southern Florida the classified 1043 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 8: documents case. I hope that makes sense anyway. She has 1044 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 8: delayed some of those pre trial deadlines, Judge Cannon, and 1045 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 8: she is going to hold a status hearing on March first, 1046 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 8: three days before the DC trial starts, to ask DOJ Okay, 1047 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 8: where we are? Do you really think we're ready to 1048 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 8: do this trial in May? So that's sort of the 1049 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 8: conflict there. But I'll tell you an interesting development that 1050 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 8: came over the weekend is that it looks like there 1051 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 8: is going to be a bench trial in Georgia for 1052 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 8: a lawsuit that's been going on for years, even before 1053 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 8: the twenty twenty election, about these unsafe, vulnerable voting systems 1054 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 8: in Georgia. And that bench trial is going to start 1055 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,760 Speaker 8: in Georgia. It is going to include defendants, including Secretary 1056 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 8: of State Brad Rethensberger, who is supposed to be a 1057 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 8: government witness in the class of in the January sixth 1058 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 8: election fraud by Jack Smith his case. So that bench 1059 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,279 Speaker 8: trial is going to start January ninth, the same day 1060 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 8: that jury questionnaires are due in the DC trial. I 1061 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 8: understand people's head, they're spinning, but this is how crazy 1062 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 8: the legal environment is. This Georgia bench trial could throw 1063 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 8: a major monkey wrench into Jack Smith's already very tenuous 1064 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 8: for account indictment against Donald Trump, especially since the defendants 1065 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 8: are some of the very same people the Jack Smith 1066 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,840 Speaker 8: wants to call as witnesses in his favor to prove 1067 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 8: that Donald Trump was trying to overthrow the results of 1068 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 8: the twenty twenty election. So jacksonth's going to have a 1069 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,240 Speaker 8: couple moves here related to what's going to be happening 1070 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 8: in Georgia. We'll see what he comes up with. I 1071 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 8: still am expecting a super sitting indictment. I know, you guys, 1072 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,280 Speaker 8: we've talked about this for months, maybe a few years, 1073 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 8: even a seditious conspiracy count to further delay this trial, 1074 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,879 Speaker 8: because I don't think that he wants this DC trial 1075 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 8: to happen on the heels of perhaps, you know, a 1076 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 8: favorable settlement for the plaintiffs and the Georgia case that 1077 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,800 Speaker 8: shows that these Georgia voting systems were vulnerable for years 1078 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 8: and the Secretary of State did nothing about it. 1079 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 4: We're talking to Julie Kelly step fabulous work covering all 1080 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,399 Speaker 4: the January sixth related cases and beyond, so a couple 1081 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 4: of two parterre here, it sounds like you don't think 1082 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 4: the case will start on March fourth in DC. Based 1083 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 4: on that, I'm wondering about your, you know, confidence level 1084 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 4: in when that case may start. And I just want 1085 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 4: to circle back around again on the TV side, do 1086 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 4: we think that this is going to turn into a 1087 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 4: big story because Trump is now on the same side 1088 00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,080 Speaker 4: as the New York Times, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSN, 1089 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 4: all of these media outlets believe that democracy demands that 1090 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,360 Speaker 4: we be able to watch these proceedings. 1091 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,360 Speaker 3: And Jack Smith is on the opposite side of that. 1092 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 4: If you truly thought democracy was in danger, wouldn't you 1093 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 4: want as many eyeballs as possible on your trial to 1094 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 4: try to preserve democracy. It seems like there's a big 1095 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 4: hypocrisy here. 1096 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 8: Well, there certainly is, And as I said over the 1097 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 8: weekend when I posted the latest motion, donald Trump's motion 1098 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 8: supporting it, I said, you know, Banana republics create strange bedfellows. 1099 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 8: Here you have Donald Trump and the biggest news organizations 1100 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 8: who've gone after him for years on the same side 1101 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 8: wanting direct, unfiltered access. So I think it will develop 1102 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 8: into a big story. And of course the decision will 1103 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,399 Speaker 8: be left up to Judge Tanya chuck Hin, no fan 1104 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,440 Speaker 8: of Donald Trump on the record saying many inflammatory things 1105 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 8: in court over the past few years about Trump and 1106 00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 8: his supporters, So will she allow it? And even if 1107 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 8: she doesn't allow a camera. Quite honestly, how can you 1108 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 8: prevent audio access when a court higher than you, in 1109 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 8: the very same courthouse, allows people to tune in and 1110 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 8: hear the proceedings. I listened to an appellate the appellate 1111 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,760 Speaker 8: case last week and Steve Bannon's appeal for his conviction, 1112 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 8: So it's going to be very difficult to see and 1113 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,360 Speaker 8: even if Judge Chuckkin does deny this lawsuit or tosses 1114 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,839 Speaker 8: it out, what these organizations will do if they will 1115 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,320 Speaker 8: then go to the appellate court and then eventually perhaps 1116 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 8: the Supreme Court. That's why the March fourth trial date 1117 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 8: seems so sketchy and really untenable, because you're talking about 1118 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,880 Speaker 8: what now three months away, four months away jury selection 1119 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 8: motions to this myths based on selective prosecution. Now the 1120 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 8: camera in the court room issue, not to mention what 1121 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,320 Speaker 8: will be a big battle over a change of venue 1122 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 8: motion I expect will be filed soon. So this is 1123 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,120 Speaker 8: a lot to resolve less in four months. So I 1124 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 8: still don't think that that March fourth trialdy will stick. 1125 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 3: Julie Kelly with us right now. 1126 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 2: Julie, I don't know if you heard last week we 1127 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 2: sat down with former President Trump and I asked him 1128 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 2: for the interview about commutations and pardons for people involved 1129 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 2: in January sixth, you know, depending on the specifics of 1130 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 2: each individual case. And he said he was really at 1131 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 2: the very end, so we couldn't get in a much 1132 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,439 Speaker 2: more in the way specifics, but he said absolutely those 1133 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 2: would happen. In the meantime, there have been a couple 1134 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 2: of high profile manhunts underway for January sixth involved individuals, 1135 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 2: and just the last week or so, I think it's 1136 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 2: surprising for people to even hear that that's still going on. 1137 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 2: What's happening with that? 1138 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 8: And I want to thank you because they did listen 1139 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 8: to that interview, And I want to thank you for 1140 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 8: asking all of the Republican presidential candidates what they will 1141 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 8: do with these politically persecuted Americans who protested at the 1142 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 8: Capitol almost three years ago. And yes, I know your 1143 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 8: listeners and all of my followers and your followers are 1144 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 8: now familiar with the case of Gregory Yetman, the many 1145 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,959 Speaker 8: times over combat veteran, also reguard at the Guantanamo Bay, 1146 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 8: no criminal record, was cooperating with the FBI. Nonetheless, walked 1147 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 8: out to go to work last Wednesday at seven am, 1148 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 8: confronted by armed several armed FBI agents and military style 1149 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 8: slat vehicles wanting to arrest him for a minor offense 1150 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 8: interfering with law enforcement. Even if what they say is true. 1151 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 8: The effidavit was just filed. The charging documents that he 1152 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 8: sprayed a canister towards police for twelve to fourteen seconds. 1153 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 8: I mean, if this is the standard to use the 1154 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 8: Joint Terrorism Task Force to hunt down Americans who allegedly 1155 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 8: sprayed police almost three years ago, then there would be 1156 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 8: FBI armed raised all over the country night after night. 1157 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,040 Speaker 8: That's simply not the case. So here is another example 1158 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 8: of this Department of Justice and FBI still adding to 1159 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 8: the body count of this January sixth prosecution. 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