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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jetty and now he arm Strong and Yetty.

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Speaker 3: The corner said it was an accident, but it was

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Speaker 3: no accident. It was a monkey. When I was a kid,

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Speaker 3: my twin brother and I found something that loved to kill.

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Speaker 4: We have been chosen to witness its power over life

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Speaker 4: and death in its most devious ways.

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Speaker 5: So that's part of the that's part of the trailer

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Speaker 5: to the movie The Monkey, or if you member with this, Katie,

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Speaker 5: it's a it's like a little toy monkey, but it

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Speaker 5: did murders people and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my husband said he wanted to see this, and

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Speaker 2: I hadn't looked at it. This thing's terrifying looking.

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Speaker 5: It's it's it's an interesting combination. Sounded like a parody, Well, it's.

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Speaker 5: It is a clearly killer in questions a toy monkey.

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Speaker 5: It's clearly a combo horror horror movie, kind of comedy

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Speaker 5: ish parody, satire of horror movies. But it's pretty well

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Speaker 5: stream movies kind of. Yeah, it looks really really well done.

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Speaker 5: My son actually wants to take a girl to it.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if the he said she likes horror films. Oh,

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Speaker 5: she'll clutch his arm and that's all.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's the whole point, right, many a fine international protect

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Speaker 1: you from the movie monkey.

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Speaker 5: Oh, because it's all the excuse to lean in and

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Speaker 5: you're cuddling.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's win win, Thank you monkey.

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Speaker 5: I didn't even they didn't even think of that's a

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Speaker 5: clastic movie.

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Speaker 2: He's ahead of me on this one.

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Speaker 5: In other news, in other non evil monkey news, evil

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Speaker 5: toy monkey news. Trump was on the phone with Zulensky

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Speaker 5: yesterday for a while and it seemed to go fairly well.

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Speaker 5: Here's a news report about it, and then we'll fill

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Speaker 5: in some more details.

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Speaker 6: That call between Presidents Trump and Zelensky lasting nearly an hour,

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Speaker 6: the Ukrainian leader agreeing to the same partial CEASEFI ideal

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Speaker 6: as Putin, pledging to stop attacking energy infrastructure. But in

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Speaker 6: a stunning development, Trump also offered to take ownership of

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Speaker 6: Ukraine's electrical supply and nuclear power plants, saying America could

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Speaker 6: offer the best protection. It could include Europe's largest nuclear

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Speaker 6: plant at Zaparisha, which Russia currently occupies at least initially.

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Speaker 6: Ukraine seems open to the idea. There'll be further talks

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Speaker 6: this weekend.

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Speaker 5: So everybody's trying to guess what Trump's angle is on

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Speaker 5: this whole piece plan thing. I mean, everybody, I think

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Speaker 5: is a little confused. Yeah, starting to get a little

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Speaker 5: clearer to me. Well, okay, so here's the reporting. Trump

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Speaker 5: said that the US could be very helpful in running

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Speaker 5: all the power plants, electric and utility plants in Ukraine.

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Speaker 5: American ownership of those plants would be the best protection

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Speaker 5: for that infrastructure and support for Ukrainian injury energy infrastructure.

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Speaker 5: So is this similar to the rare earth metals mind

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Speaker 5: that we would run. Also, is it just we're gonna

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Speaker 5: happen so much economic intertwined reason to care about Ukraine

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Speaker 5: that'll be like, hey, Putin, don't be attacking basically the

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Speaker 5: United States his interests.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's becoming more clear to me, I think in that.

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Speaker 1: You know, Trump famously is transactional, and whether it's like

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Speaker 1: an actual philosophy of international relations.

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Speaker 2: Or just his ego.

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Speaker 1: Needs to be seen as getting something when he gives something.

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Speaker 1: And so the framework is we will be so entwined

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Speaker 1: with Ukraine economically especially, but you know, on a human

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Speaker 1: level too, because obviously we'll have lots and lots of

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Speaker 1: people there that that is Ukraine's security, and he can

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Speaker 1: go on about and now we have cheap electricity and

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Speaker 1: access to rare earth minerals and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: It's a win for both sides.

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Speaker 1: It's an interesting way to go about it. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet my life savings on it working. But

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Speaker 1: if that's what he's thinking, that's not nuts.

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Speaker 2: But it's different.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, So it's different than like having a NATO

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Speaker 5: guarantee with Article five, where an attack on one is

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Speaker 5: an attack on all. So if you have NATO troops there,

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Speaker 5: instead of doing that, you just make it more much

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Speaker 5: more well transactional in that No, we have a bunch

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Speaker 5: of businesses there. There are billions at stake, dollars at steak.

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Speaker 5: Don't be attacking a country where we have billions of

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Speaker 2: I was worried at.

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Speaker 1: First because of Trump's you know, characteristic, oversimplified over belligerent

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Speaker 1: rhetoric that he was thinking more in terms of like

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Speaker 1: war reparations and having Ukraine's economy under our heel and

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Speaker 1: exploiting them for the rare minerals and the rest of it.

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Speaker 1: But like so often with Trump, that was the big

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Speaker 1: blustery opening, and it's starting to sound more like, you know, partnership.

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Speaker 2: My actual partnership might be both.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, because I don't want to be a

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Speaker 1: colonial power at this point. I think that's a terrible idea.

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Speaker 1: He might want to be in. Well, yeah, well, i'm

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Speaker 1: he works for me, especially in the twenty first century

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Speaker 1: in a part of the world where they are armed

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Speaker 1: to the teeth.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we want to a colony.

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Speaker 1: But if it is, here's how we bring him to

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Speaker 1: the West and put them under our umbrella through enormous

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Speaker 1: commercial interaction. I don't know, it's an intriguing idea.

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Speaker 5: Well, he wants to make Canada the fifty first state.

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Speaker 5: He seems to be fairly serious about figuring out a

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Speaker 5: way to get Greenland. I don't know. By the way,

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Speaker 5: I came across this tidbit yesterday, and then I'll be

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Speaker 5: done with this. But surely he understands the Canada thing

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Speaker 5: will never happen.

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Speaker 2: Right, we get more.

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Speaker 5: Oil from Canada at an incredibly discounted price, and with

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Speaker 5: no fear of disruption because it's right on our border

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Speaker 5: like all the other.

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Speaker 2: And there are buds.

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Speaker 5: We get more oil from Canada than the next five

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Speaker 5: foreign sources combined.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea of that.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't have told you that we get fifteen times

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Speaker 5: more oil from Canada than from Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 2: Didn't know that. So interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, King of Ukraine, Western allies are meeting as we speak,

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Speaker 1: or just did. No, it's today to hash out a

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Speaker 1: bold European idea. When was the last time you heard

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Speaker 1: the phrase bold European idea? I know, let's make our

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Speaker 1: acconemy even more socialist than wreck it. That was really

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Speaker 1: the last one I heard. They're thinking of sending ten

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Speaker 1: to thirty thousand troops to Ukraine to help enforce any

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Speaker 1: eventual peace deal with Russia. Defense officials from dozens of

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Speaker 1: Western nations, not America. We are not involved. Zuos met

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Speaker 1: in the UK today. They met today, Yes, it's later

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Speaker 1: today over there to hammer out details of the so

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Speaker 1: called Coalition of the Willing, led by the UK and France,

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Speaker 1: that could help Ukraine deter Russia from attacking in the future.

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Speaker 2: No US troops would be involved.

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Speaker 1: Again, the Eastern Euros are saying, yeah, well, we're right

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Speaker 1: next to Russian. We don't want to piss them off,

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Speaker 1: and we need them for our own defenses. But Britain, France, Sweden,

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Speaker 1: Denmark and Australia have all said they're considering putting boots

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Speaker 1: on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: So this is being portrayed, of course by the Trump haters.

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Speaker 5: As look, Europe is in such a desperate situation since

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Speaker 5: we've abandoned them that they feel like they need to.

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Speaker 2: Act on their own.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's one way to look at it, or another

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Speaker 5: way to look at it would be it's their freaking continent.

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Speaker 2: Why aren't they doing it instead of us or with us? Even?

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Speaker 1: You know, I see the world through metaphors and I

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Speaker 1: find it illustrative.

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Speaker 2: I hope you do too. But it's like we had

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Speaker 2: a totally.

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Speaker 1: Dysfunctional relationship with a clingy, weak partner who is nothing

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Speaker 1: but clingy and weak, and we said, nope, you're on

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Speaker 1: your own.

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Speaker 2: We kicked them to the curb.

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Speaker 1: They learned about themselves, jack, as they say these days,

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Speaker 1: they worked on themselves and now potentially they are a stronger,

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Speaker 1: more self reliant partner worth having.

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Speaker 2: I mean Europe was getting damned close.

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Speaker 1: To just as a useless ally, just weak paper tiger,

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Speaker 1: just clinging to us.

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Speaker 5: Well, right, I had that quote from the leader of

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Speaker 5: Poland last week that I thought was really good. He's

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Speaker 5: more on our side by saying, how are we supposed

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Speaker 5: to convince three hundred million Americans that they need to

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Speaker 5: protect five hundred million Europeans from one hundred and forty

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Speaker 5: million Russians.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like to cut his jib. It's worth

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Speaker 1: mentioning that. A defense expert at King's College, London, Bence Nameth,

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Speaker 1: said the chance of this force ever heading to Ukraine

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Speaker 1: is a long shot. European leaders say they'll only send

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Speaker 1: troops if there is a lasting piece in Ukraine. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'll go kick his ass as long as he says

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Speaker 1: he doesn't want to fight. Russian President Vladimir Putin is

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Speaker 1: so far ruled out signing piece deal that includes Western

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Speaker 1: forces in Ukraine, other than that it's a terrific idea.

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Speaker 1: Among other ideas floated were to get around Russia's opposition,

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Speaker 1: perhaps include troops that Russia SEESUS friendly from China or India,

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Speaker 1: for example, So you're gonna have like joint patrols of British,

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Speaker 1: French and Chinese troops to keep Vladimir Putin out of Ukraine.

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Speaker 5: China is not putting troops in Ukraine? Is there a

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Speaker 1: Or what are you okay? How many fingers am I

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Speaker 1: holding up? Seriously?

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Speaker 1: Trump's Yemen campaign is promise to avoid quote unquote forever wars,

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Speaker 8: There were two conceits that our leadership class had when

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Speaker 5: We've been doing the cheap labor thing for quite a while,

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Speaker 8: Now, one of the debates you hear on the minimum wage,

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Speaker 1: and we're selling essentially the same good. We both have

441
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Speaker 1: good service but you're importing tires that are thirty percent

442
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: cheaper than mine. Jd Vance would say, well, Joe, you've

443
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: got to innovate. You got to innovate your way because

444
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 1: now that you're not relying on cheap you gotta innovate.

445
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: But you can't innovate your way to not going out

446
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: of business. It's just not possible. In a lot of fields.

447
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: We're not all designing AI. Some of us are selling

448
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Speaker 1: tires or lumber, or washing machines or whatever. I and

449
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: I wanted I actually had only heard part of one

450
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 1: of those clips. I wanted to agree with them. I

451
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: wanted to be persuaded because you could simply say, hey,

452
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: the United States government exists to protect the rights of

453
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Speaker 1: the American people and to you know, seek the welfare,

454
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Speaker 1: seek out the best possible welfare for the American people.

455
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Speaker 1: To what extent you want them to do. That depends

456
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Speaker 1: on how libertarian you are. And I get that. And offshoring,

457
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: like all the good steady manufacturing jobs, has been an

458
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Speaker 1: enormous negative in a lot of ways.

459
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Speaker 2: But I just I'm sorry I didn't buy those arguments.

460
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Speaker 1: What am I missing? Why am I wrong? Mail bag

461
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: at Armstrong and getty dot com. In the words of

462
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Speaker 1: Agent Molder on the X Files, I want to believe I.

463
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Speaker 5: Don't think you're going to change the incentive when it

464
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 5: comes to like having stuff built in Mexico or India

465
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Speaker 5: or wherever the heck my socks are made.

466
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Speaker 2: You know, it says Indiania, you need to have more

467
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Speaker 2: innovative socks.

468
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Speaker 5: But uh, China, that's going to take care of itself.

469
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 5: Because there's such an enemy of the United States, people

470
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Speaker 5: aren't going to want to make stuff. I can't believe

471
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Speaker 5: that Apple is still making iPhones in China.

472
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Speaker 2: They got to be scared to death on a daily basis. Yeah,

473
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Speaker 2: well that's why they opened.

474
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Speaker 1: What is it they're having fifteen or eighteen percent of

475
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Speaker 1: their manufacturing done in India now, I think, but you know,

476
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Speaker 1: fifteen to eighteen percent eight much?

477
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Speaker 5: No, but that that's what's going to take care of

478
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Speaker 5: the cheap Chinese goods. Is it just we're going to

479
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 5: reach the point of rupture with that enemy of the

480
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Speaker 5: United States one of these.

481
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Speaker 2: Days, I suspect.

482
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Speaker 5: So, yeah, so the chatting of our young people, which

483
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Speaker 5: I'll explain what that means coming up in a little bit.

484
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 5: And one of the funnier things Trump has ever said.

485
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 5: Is it chatting with a te chatting as in the

486
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Speaker 5: name Chad. Oh, I don't know that I've invented this term,

487
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Speaker 5: but oh, all that I don't know.

488
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Speaker 1: You're innovating yourself ahead of the competition. I am getting

489
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: ahead of cheap Chinese talk shows exactly.

490
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: It's on the way.

491
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Speaker 5: So I'm trying to fit all this into this little

492
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 5: segment here. I got an idea, I got a plan. So,

493
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 5: first of all, came across this. If you have allergies

494
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 5: at all. I didn't have allergies in my entire life.

495
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 5: Moved to California, got allergies, which I guess happens to

496
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Speaker 5: some people.

497
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Speaker 2: We get shots for years.

498
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 5: Paulin expected to surpass historical averages in thirty nine states

499
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 5: this year, So for four out of five states, it

500
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 5: is going to be a worse than average allergy year

501
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 5: or something to look forward to, record setting.

502
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: Good lord, the sneezing, so much sneezing.

503
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 5: President Trump calls on Congress to pass stable coin legislation

504
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 5: during his address at the Digital Asset Summer Summit.

505
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: Well, you talk about something I don't understand.

506
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 5: We're ending the last administration's regulatory war on crypto and bitcoin. Okay,

507
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 5: this is either great or horrible or something in between.

508
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 5: I have no idea, don't ask me.

509
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: Not super comfy with Trump playing around with the meme

510
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: coin industry, by the way, I haven't talked about their.

511
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Speaker 5: Okay, and a lot has been made over since Trump

512
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 5: came on the scene politically about his sleeping.

513
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 2: How he let me sleep like five hours a night

514
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Speaker 2: or something like that.

515
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Speaker 5: He's one of those people, Max, Yeah, got it, his age,

516
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 5: his level of stress. Anyway, he said something funny. Laura

517
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Speaker 5: Ingram asked him about his sleeping.

518
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Speaker 2: You do when you.

519
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 8: Can't sleep because you don't sleep, You're like me, you

520
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 8: don't sleep at all.

521
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Speaker 2: I know you just don't need a lot of sleep.

522
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Speaker 2: But when you can't fall asleep, you wake up and

523
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, how do you go back to sleep?

524
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Speaker 7: Well, the only thing I totally admired about sleepy Joe

525
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 7: Biden is the following. He'd go to a beach, he'd

526
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 7: lay down in a cut, barely able to get his

527
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 7: feet through the sand. He'd lay down, and within minutes

528
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 7: he's sleeping, and you have cameras watching him.

529
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Speaker 2: I could never do that. I would never be able

530
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Speaker 2: to sleep like that.

531
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Speaker 7: That's about the only thing I think that was wonderful.

532
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Speaker 2: Uh. He was a disaster. This man was a disaster.

533
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: I don't sleep much. You don't sleep much.

534
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Speaker 7: A lot of people that love what they're doing don't

535
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Speaker 7: sleep much, I find, and so far it's been okay.

536
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: That's a decent point. If you can, in the middle

537
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Speaker 2: of the day, with.

538
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Speaker 5: Cameras everywhere, shuffle on out to the beach, laid out,

539
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 5: sound asleep, that's a gift.

540
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: Or you have dementia, well yeah.

541
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you can sleep on airplanes like a ring

542
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: and a bell. For me to sleep ten minutes straight

543
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: on an airplane, I'm more likely to pull vault eighteen feet.

544
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 5: I couldn't if I had cameras on me. Let's all

545
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 5: watch Jack sleep. I couldn't do that enough. Yeah, well,

546
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 5: you don't have the dementia. As you mentioned, the chatting

547
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 5: of America. I've been wanting to talk about this. I

548
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 5: see Pete Davidson has a new girl, hot young actress girlfriend.

549
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 5: Pete Davidson of SNL fame. He is involved in this.

550
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 5: He plays a character on Saturday Night Live name Chad,

551
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 5: and I kind of got it liked it over. It's

552
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 5: been going on for years. It's a recurring character's when

553
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 5: they do their little films. It's a recurring character until

554
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 5: I got a high school boy who is very much

555
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 5: like Chad, and I just wonder, and there's a reason

556
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 5: it's a popular character on Saturday Live.

557
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: My kids act in that way.

558
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 5: It must be like something in the water or the

559
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 5: air or culture right now. And the whole thing with Chad,

560
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 5: if you've never seen it, is they put him in

561
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 5: different circumstances like j looaks coming on to him in

562
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Speaker 5: one episode, or the place catches on fire, or just

563
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 5: whatever's going on. Whatever you say to Chad itsways okay,

564
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 5: I don't know, all right, the place is on fire,

565
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 5: Oh okay, we really should get out of here, all right.

566
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 5: Or j Lo's coming on, I think I've fallen in

567
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 5: love with you and have sex with you.

568
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: Cool. That's what he responds to everything, And that's whay.

569
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Speaker 5: My son is with anything, and it's just does it

570
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 5: any breaking out of it? And I don't know if

571
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 5: that's fine or normal, or or if the younger generation

572
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 5: is just so comfortable and like numb from smartphones that

573
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 5: just nothing has an effect on them.

574
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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. I don't know if

575
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: it's a crisis or just funny.

576
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the disease you get from calling everything awesome.

577
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: A sunrise is awesome, this taco is awesome. The Allies

578
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: triumphing in World War two is awesome.

579
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: Everything's awesome.

580
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 5: Why do we had a producer I won't name his name,

581
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 5: guy I really really liked for a while who had

582
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 5: a bit of that himself. And it's just kinda you know,

583
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 5: you know, if you do this, that's gonna happen. Okay,

584
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 5: I mean just I don't care. Doesn't matter to me.

585
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 5: I mean, as long as I got a roof over

586
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 5: my head and a smartphone to stare at all, right, cool?

587
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 5: And I just wonder if I don't know, I don't

588
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 5: know if it's a thing.

589
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I don't know if it's because I'm the

590
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: presence of social media and electronic inputs is different than

591
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: we ever dealt with. But being like unaffected by anything

592
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: is It's an adolescent thing, especially around your parents.

593
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: I'm independent, I'm cool. You can't affect me like you

594
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: did when I was a kid. You know that sort

595
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: of thing. Anie thoughts Joe just nailed at it. I

596
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: think it's a total cool guy thing, you know, I

597
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: don't care. It's all good. Yeah, yeah, well, it definitely is.

598
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 5: I used to spend a lot of time in my

599
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 5: room listening to music when I was his age. When

600
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 5: I was a high schooler, I'd spend a lot of

601
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 5: time in my room with my stereo on, headphones on

602
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 5: or whatever, and I read. But that was one of

603
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 5: the only options. I didn't have a TV in my room.

604
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 5: My son doesn't have a TV in his room, but

605
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 5: he's got a TV in his hand with a smartphone.

606
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 5: But he'll get home from school and I'll try to

607
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 5: engage them in conversation for a while and then headed

608
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 5: to the zerom. What are you gonna do? Literally whatever

609
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 5: I want? And he can he can kill several hours

610
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 5: in his room because he's just texting with friends and.

611
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah nothing. How's things doing? Okay? Did you see you

612
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: hear about this? All right?

613
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: I don't know where it goes unless it's the planet

614
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: of the apes or beavers or ants, as I've said,

615
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: But again, assemble Jesus and Buddha and nietzschee and you know,

616
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson and who else? John Wayne you usually want

617
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: John Wayne for some reason. Heart Princess Diana, exactly. No,

618
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: this is not a Franklin Mint commemorative plate. This is

619
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: a meeting of the greatest minds in philosophers and history.

620
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: And tell them what if we were to put in

621
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: the hands of every human being a device that delivered

622
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: constant pleasure without effort, do you think things would go?

623
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: And then please? They'd be climbing all over each other

624
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: to tell you, oh, bad idea, bad idea, And yet

625
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: here we are.

626
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 5: And you'd say that in the younger generation, this is

627
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 5: going to destroy your motivation to do anything, and they

628
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 5: would say, okay, whatever.

629
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: Cool exactly yeah again. Planet of the Beavers gonna be charming.

630
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: In its way.

631
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if they will grow to astounding size

632
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: and oppress us remaining humans. That remains to be seen,

633
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: but they will indeed be in charge of the planet.

634
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 5: So my youngest he plays video games and then he

635
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 5: gets angered himself for playing video games too much. And

636
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 5: he doesn't even play very much. But he told me

637
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 5: last night, he said, I'm giving this to you. Do

638
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 5: not give it back to me under no circumstances. Give

639
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 5: it back to me, no matter how much I beg

640
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 5: tomorrow and tomorrow I'm gonna beg. I'm gonna say I overreacted.

641
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 5: Don't give it back to me. I don't want it back.

642
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: Wow, switch, I said Jean Wilder and young Frankenstein.

643
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I said, You've seen this theme in lots of

644
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 5: TV shows and movies. I know you have, where the

645
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 5: person says, no matter how much I beg, don't let

646
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 5: me out, or that sort of thing. But right, okay,

647
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 5: we'll see how this turns out.

648
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck with that next hour.

649
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: A number of things I'm anxious to bring to your attention,

650
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: including a couple of progressive states attacks on homeschooling that

651
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: are utterly galling and evil.

652
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: Want to call those out.

653
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: Plus the two faced corporations that do business in the

654
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: UK and in the United States over in Europe. Well,

655
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: I said the UK, but it's the UK and Europe.

656
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: Over in Europe, they're more woke than ever, even as

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Speaker 1: their public face in the US is oh, we've moved

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Speaker 1: euro as they say, and a lot more good stuff

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Speaker 1: if okay, yeah whatever, If you don't get next hour,

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Speaker 1: I don't care whether I get it or not. If

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Speaker 1: you don't get Next Hour, that's fine, just grab it

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Speaker 1: later via podcast.

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Speaker 2: Subscribe to Armstrong and Getting on demand. Okay, cool cut's neat, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: cool cool cool dad? All right? Uh our four is

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Speaker 2: gonna be good. Stick here Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm