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Speaker 1: This these One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Holy Crow. We are one week a way. Let's go

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Speaker 2: almost here, the twenty twenty three NFL draft just one

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Speaker 2: week away from today? How giddy are we gonna be?

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Speaker 2: Like a week from today in these chairs like doing

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Speaker 2: the little mister Miyagi hand rubbin thing.

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Speaker 1: You always have been having meetings about what you're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: You know, you gotta because you gotta cover this thing, right,

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Speaker 1: We got to cover this thing, and I and I

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Speaker 1: don't have anything to do, right Is that gonna change? Brownie?

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Speaker 2: Have you got I don't know. I don't make decisions.

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Speaker 1: Because right now, as of right now, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: be you know, about four cigars and a couple of

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Speaker 1: beers in okay, while you're working, your working hard, much

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Speaker 1: like I am during the show during the day.

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Speaker 2: But what do you got under the death right that

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Speaker 2: I don't know about?

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I may for the first time in a while,

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Speaker 1: have a minute.

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Speaker 2: To just enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool because you and Maddie are going to

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Speaker 1: be you know, break alive string breaking rocks with a hammer,

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Speaker 1: not me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, along with the video and web staff. But you

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Speaker 2: and I we didn't get to this yesterday, and I

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Speaker 2: know we wanted to discuss this. We made a coffee

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Speaker 2: run yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Morning, as is our visual.

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Speaker 2: We're both Tim Horton's guys, So we made a coffee

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Speaker 2: run to Timmy hoes around the corner and one of them.

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Speaker 2: And look, we have tim Horton's coffee here in the building.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're one of our sponsors.

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Speaker 1: There, which which is part of this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Well, right, because I don't know what it is, but

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Speaker 2: try as we might, we cannot duplicate how it tastes

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Speaker 2: at the store, at the you know, at the at

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Speaker 2: the franchise, at the location that's right, any location that's right.

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Speaker 1: And I've been to who I've been to at least

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Speaker 1: what a handful in the area. Half a dozen different

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Speaker 1: locations of Tim Horton's in this region. All of them

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Speaker 1: you get the same thing everywhere. All of them taste

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Speaker 1: exactly the same, all and they're great. I get, I

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Speaker 1: go back and do it again, but here in this building.

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Speaker 2: Or if I have the ca cups at home, right,

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Speaker 2: it ain't right, doesn't taste the same like it doesn't

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Speaker 2: taste It's good, but it doesn't taste as good I

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Speaker 2: want to take. We have it every day, so naturally,

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Speaker 2: Steve and I the next step is to put the together,

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Speaker 2: put together theories as to why this is now. We

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Speaker 2: thought we had an angle on this. Steve had a

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Speaker 2: theory because both of us usually get double doubles, double cream,

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Speaker 2: double sugar. Usually get the gargantuan size.

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Speaker 1: I get the extra large because listen, I was a

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Speaker 1: large guy for a long time. Then I saw the

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Speaker 1: me in the drive through. Had I go, they pull

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Speaker 1: out this extra large cup and I'm going, what's that?

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Speaker 1: He and I pulled.

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Speaker 2: I go. I was like, oh what.

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Speaker 1: I pull up and I go, do you have a

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Speaker 1: size larger than large? And he goes, yeah, we have

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Speaker 1: that that I want.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Ever since it's been that or nothing.

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Speaker 2: Right, I can't. I can't get something that big. I'll

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Speaker 2: live in the bathroom. Oh my gosh, it's awesome either way.

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Speaker 2: So we both get the same thing, usually double double.

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Speaker 2: So Steve comes up with the theory that because we're

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Speaker 2: trying to say, all right, well, what's different from the

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Speaker 2: store to what's different when we're making their coffee either

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Speaker 2: here at the office or at home with a cacup machine.

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Speaker 1: Even with the you can buy the beans now.

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Speaker 2: Right, And so Steve's theory was it's got to be

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Speaker 2: something in the cream and the sugar, like what.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think? Right, Yeah, because you you because

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Speaker 2: Accept the problem is we today we were relaying this

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Speaker 2: Horton's and he says, he agrees with us that the

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Speaker 1: And he wouldn't listen and this is just so he

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Speaker 2: Argument because he doesn't get cream and sugar.

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Speaker 1: And not only that he's a goner because he's talking

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Speaker 1: to us about how what the links he has gone

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Speaker 1: to to try and duplicate it from roasting his own

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Speaker 2: I'm like going, dude, yeah, I'm looking at Steve just

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Speaker 2: I was aware of this commitment. I was aware of

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Speaker 2: his commitment to perfect coffee. You were not, and you're

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Speaker 2: I looked over at you and your mouth was a gape.

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Speaker 1: It's like talking to somebody and realizing it's like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there is an encyclopedic knowledge of the process there.

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Speaker 2: It's like when you're but the but here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I I can't put my finger on it now. I'm

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Speaker 2: lost now. And I don't know why that is whatever.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like it's almost like, what's the secret recipe

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Speaker 2: like all that stuff. There's something there that's happening.

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Speaker 2: I would just like to have whatever that is over

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Speaker 2: here in our office.

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Speaker 1: We've got the machines we get our coffee out of

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Speaker 1: are the big. They're industrial. They've got Tim, they're Tim

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Speaker 1: same machine that Tim Hortons. But what's coming out of

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Speaker 2: It doesn't take it's good, but it doesn't always good

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Speaker 1: We don't miss a day, right, but it's not the same.

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Speaker 2: We got to get to the bottom of that. I

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Speaker 2: don't know who we got to talk to to try.

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Speaker 1: To tweet out at Tim Tim Hortons.

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Speaker 2: See what they say, I might put you on that.

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Speaker 1: I think that the relation was there's got to be

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. And the look on our face, look

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Speaker 1: I was roasting the beans. And then that what do

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Speaker 2: The shell of the ship, the shell of them. I'm

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Speaker 2: like being I'm like, dude, he's a coffee savant.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's what he does a poor over every morning

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Speaker 1: because it gets closer.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, oh he's there have been a lot of trials.

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Speaker 1: And oh he's I get the feeling when he started

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Speaker 1: That's why you know. I'm it's like one of.

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Speaker 2: Those you were like you were taking aback. He definitely were.

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Speaker 1: It's like a revelation. We will let somebody. It's like,

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Speaker 1: oh my, oh my gosh, listen to this guy.

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Speaker 2: We'll let you all know if we if we are

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Speaker 2: able to, it's not going to change. Grab An ants

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Speaker 2: a definitive, some.

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Speaker 1: Sort of state what it is. Tim Hortons knows. They

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Speaker 1: that you can't replicate it to They probably, Oh they

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Speaker 2: They got me.

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Speaker 1: Because I go to the store and I've been to

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Speaker 1: every location within its uniform. Yes, they get it. Consistency.

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Speaker 1: So having said that, there's got to be something that

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Speaker 1: not that we don't know about that, we just cannot.

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Speaker 2: Do right, some sort of deflating.

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Speaker 1: You know, they got they they've got to have something

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Speaker 2: Know, Okay, that was our I mean, you know, and

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Speaker 2: if it's a state secret, that's fine. But I'd love

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't even care. I don't even care

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Speaker 1: if you tell me what it is. Just tell me,

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Speaker 1: that can't just that would relieve me of the effort

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Speaker 2: Let's check in with the latest draft news and the

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Speaker 2: NFL pre Draft thirty visits are wrapping up, and NFL

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Speaker 2: Networks Ian Rappaport said one of the top four quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: Will Levis out of Kentucky, visited on a last minute

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Speaker 2: meetup with the New England Patriots. Steve the New England

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Speaker 2: Patriots last minute meetup. They have the fourteenth pick in

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Speaker 2: the draft. Now, I would venture to say the general

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Speaker 2: consensus is he's not going to last that far. I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of people had to cut off at

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Speaker 2: go pass Rusher at two, they would say if Levis

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Speaker 2: is still on the board at twelve, they would take

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Speaker 2: him there. But maybe the Patriots at fourteen, if that

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Speaker 2: scenario is unfolding, may leapfrog them and go up that.

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Speaker 2: Belichick is a proponent of that. He almost never trades up.

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Speaker 1: Right, That's what I was thinking too. There's always a

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Speaker 1: chance that New England could go from fourteen to like

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Speaker 1: nine for the Bears, or you know, because the Bears

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Speaker 1: have already traded down once they grab even another rat

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Speaker 1: five spots, they would do that, you know, Falcons two.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Philly gets an extra couple of draft picks out

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Speaker 1: something something like that. Though, yeah, you could see New

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Speaker 1: England doing that. But for Will Levis, well they took

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Speaker 1: Cold Strange last year. They may do it, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But the talk now is now there's talk that

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Speaker 2: Will Levis might be the second quarterback off the board.

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Speaker 2: I think Bryce Young is going to be first, and

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Speaker 2: then Will Levis could be second, ahead of Strout.

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time getting it. I have a

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Speaker 1: hard time getting to that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's lying season, but and listen,

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Speaker 2: it's flavor of the month.

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Speaker 1: The closer you get to the draft, the bigger the

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Speaker 1: lies get told. Yeah, that's true, and we're only when

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Speaker 1: I would we're seven seven day. Yeah. The more information

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Speaker 1: that comes out about what these teams really think, the

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Speaker 1: less you can believe it.

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Speaker 2: That is interesting though. It nevertheless that the Patriots are

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Speaker 2: looking there because they're only two years removed from taking

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Speaker 2: mac Jones fifteenth overall, and.

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Speaker 1: They were patient with mac Jones. Remember if we thought

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Speaker 1: mac john all these quarterbacks were going yahd YadA YadA dad,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you know that mac Jones

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Speaker 2: We asked for help on the coffee and help is

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Speaker 2: Help us out?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 5: Hey, okay, hi guys ten years retired but twenty three

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Speaker 5: I'm going through this countless times over the years. It's

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Speaker 5: and I tell them, no, you got to put twice

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Speaker 5: if you don't put it in coffee in. It's really

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Speaker 1: All right, Maarns. That's awesome. And I guess Ronnie, we

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Speaker 2: To us, and that's great. I'll take it all the

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Speaker 1: No, that's not right. That would be like he said, you.

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Speaker 2: Have to have like double the amount of coffee grinds.

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Speaker 2: We got we got other people ready to help us out.

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Speaker 2: We got Tom in north Townawanda next. What you got

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Speaker 6: I talked to one of the owners of Timorriins many

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Speaker 2: I got to give Tom credit. He just did a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. How do you do it? Pressure? Well,

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Speaker 2: But it's pressurized water pressure makes it taste different. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, by I don't have time to pull out my

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Speaker 2: Well, I think Joe and Wheatfield has something to add

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Joe, go ahead, Joe.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's the water that's in every city

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Speaker 2: I think we did?

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Speaker 3: Bi, Hi, it's the uh Hi, it's the it's the

438
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Speaker 3: light cream. I guarantee you that's it's They used light cream.

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Speaker 2: See. I thought that that was our theory too, Bill.

440
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Speaker 2: But the problem is one of our coworkers who drinks

441
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Speaker 2: it only black, says it's his opinion that it tastes

442
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 2: better at the store too.

443
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 1: It has much taste.

444
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 2: The whole creamer theory out of whack. So that's where

445
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 2: we ran into a dead end. Right.

446
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Speaker 1: Plus, if we get double double, not everybody does. Somebody

447
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Speaker 1: people get a single into like one cream, no sugar,

448
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: one sugar, no cream, and all the different combinations you

449
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: can get. They to me, everybody says, no, it always

450
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 1: tastes better at the place. And I get it too.

451
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 1: A little bit of it is like a placebo. Somebody

452
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 1: else makes it and gives it to you, and it's

453
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Speaker 1: the same every time. It's better because whatever. Maybe some

454
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Speaker 1: of that, but not for everybody. Right, So I thought

455
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Speaker 1: it had to do with the cream and sugar too,

456
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Speaker 1: and the way they did it, And apparently that's not it. Yeah,

457
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 1: it's gotta be something else.

458
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Speaker 2: Well, if we officially get to the bottom, we'll we'll

459
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Speaker 2: let you know. But the steaming of the water through

460
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Speaker 2: the grinds, I think.

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Speaker 1: That's the leading that's my front runner. Yeah, because that's

462
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Speaker 1: the only thing that I want to I don't expect

463
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Speaker 1: myself to be able to duplicate, so I don't have

464
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Speaker 1: to worry about exactly.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Let's go back to the phones, though, and talk

466
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Speaker 2: a little football. Here we go to Mic and Chic

467
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: to Waga. Who will get us off the coffee and

468
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 2: back onto football. What do you got Mike?

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Speaker 4: Hey, boys, first time listed are a long time. I'm

470
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 4: just wondering how you feel about the Bills. The way

471
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Speaker 4: the team's constructed right now. Do you think it's better

472
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Speaker 4: than the years the last two years? I'll hang up

473
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Speaker 4: and listen.

474
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Speaker 2: I do, thanks, Mike.

475
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Speaker 1: I think they got a chance to be. They're gonna be.

476
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Speaker 1: They have absolutely every reason.

477
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Speaker 2: I do.

478
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Speaker 1: I believe they're gonna be at least the team they

479
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: were a year ago, maybe better coming up. I do

480
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Speaker 1: because I think there's a couple of things going that

481
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Speaker 1: it's going to be different. I think there's a couple

482
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Speaker 1: of guys you can point to that will play better

483
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: because we've seen them play better. Gabe Davis had a

484
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: big an enlarged roll last year that I think maybe

485
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Speaker 1: caught him a little bit off guard. Plus he was

486
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Speaker 1: dragging around injuries all year. If he stays healthy, he'll

487
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: play better. Spencer Brown same thing. He was dragging around

488
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: at high ankle sprain and he had back surgery that

489
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: he didn't even take part in the offseason conditioning and

490
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Speaker 1: all that stuff last year, so he was done. So

491
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Speaker 1: he had a slow start and then got injured, and

492
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Speaker 1: then it was worse for him the rest of the season.

493
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Speaker 2: You've got a Greg Russell got hurt. Greg Russell was

494
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 2: hurt a knee injury.

495
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Speaker 1: You had Micah Hyde in week two, go down, Jordan

496
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 1: Poyer was dragging around stuffing Micah High uh Nahim Hines

497
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: is here now and will play a better and more

498
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: and a more significant role or has a chance to then.

499
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: Zach Moss was gonna play last year at this time.

500
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Speaker 1: James Cook has been around for a year and has

501
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Speaker 1: proven what he can do and will probably expand his role.

502
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Speaker 1: You've got a younger version of Cole Beasley and John

503
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Speaker 1: Brown on the roster now. In Uh Shereford, Sherfield and

504
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir and Hardy from New Orleans. Kayir Elam started

505
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: to spread his wings at the end of last year

506
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: and was the guy at corner.

507
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Speaker 2: And I think.

508
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: Christian Benford was gonna have a hard time getting him

509
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: off the field after starting the season like he did

510
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: and then getting the injury and the hand injury, I

511
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: think he lost ground to cair All of those reasons,

512
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: I think are plenty to give you an idea that

513
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: the Bills are gonna come back and they're gonna roll

514
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: if they stay healthy as they did two years ago.

515
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Speaker 1: This is a team that they could forget this draft.

516
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: They could go with the guys they've got right now

517
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: with it. With Connor McGovern in the fold, Baits kessen

518
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: Berry is a swing tackle David they could go right

519
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: now and play better up front and all over the

520
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: field on both sides of the ball than they did

521
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Speaker 1: a year ago. If they stayed healthy. I think they're

522
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Speaker 1: that good. They're gonna be a wrecking crew again this year.

523
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Speaker 1: That's my opinion.

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Speaker 2: And I would also argue that they've upgraded running back

525
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: with Damian Harris. I think that's a better all around

526
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 2: player than Devin Singletary. So now him and cook as

527
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: your top two backs. You're better than you were last year.

528
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Speaker 2: And what was everybody asking for last year to help

529
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Speaker 2: this offense? A better back?

530
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Speaker 1: And not only your back's gonna be backs are going

531
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Speaker 1: to be better. So she wrote, I think your line

532
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: will be better.

533
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 2: Cooks's gotta be better in year two.

534
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: Don mc govern's going to be better than Roger Saffold

535
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: was able to be in a year thirteen of his career.

536
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I just think you're gonna be the.

537
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: Question you got to fill, and it could be somebody

538
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: on the roster, It could be somebody they still add

539
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 2: in the draft. Middle linebacker, that's that's really the only

540
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: position where you don't have a definitive answer right now,

541
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: But between now and the end of training camp you

542
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: may have an answer that's maybe not as freakishly athletic

543
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 2: as Tremaine, but maybe as good an answer in terms

544
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: of productivity.

545
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: Even the backup safety spot with Wrap coming in from

546
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: the Rams, they're just better. There's a lot of and

547
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: I get it. The recency bias is the Bills laid

548
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: an egg and they stunk at the end of the

549
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: year because of what happened, don't I'm I'm not there.

550
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: Brownie and I have talked at length about why we

551
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: thought that season went south last year, and it started

552
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: with the Monday night game in Cincinnati, and they ever

553
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: recovered from it, despite the fact that they won two

554
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: games where they were mentally a shell. They beat the

555
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: Patriots and the Dolphins at the end of the season barely,

556
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: albeit with two That's how bad they were, That's how

557
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: mentally shot they were at the end of the season

558
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: because of what happened that they It took two kickoff

559
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: returns for touchdowns to beat the Patriots at the end

560
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: of the season Week seven eighteension, the worst team in

561
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Speaker 1: the division, and then they barely got by Skyler Thompson

562
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins in the playoffs. You know, just they

563
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: were they were a wreck. The team was a wreck

564
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: mentally at the end of the season. And then of

565
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: course they met have finally met a good team in Cincinnati,

566
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: and they just well.

567
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: That the incident happened against three weeks later, right, they

568
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: had no shot. Can't wrap your head around that match.

569
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,479
Speaker 1: They had no shot. And so I think they're going

570
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: to be in a much better and much different place

571
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: than they were a year ago. Tredavious White's gonna come

572
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: back with a vengeance Week one this year, not Week

573
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: fourteen or twelve, whatever it was. He's gonna come back

574
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: and play well. Kyrie Eadam's gonna play much better than

575
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: he did, and to begin the year, he's gonna be

576
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: a different kind of I can. I think he's gonna

577
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: be a completely different player. Hiring Hide and Poyer will

578
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: be there. You know, all the defensive tackles they brought back,

579
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: they're all good now, they're all in short term deals.

580
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: They're all gonna be done after this year. But man o, man,

581
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna come back and they're all gonna be highly motivated.

582
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: Von Miller's gonna come back and be ready.

583
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot of things on this

585
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: roster that people just kind of think they kind of

586
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: gloss over like it doesn't mean it means a lot.

587
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: This team's this team's got some guys, so I think

588
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: they are gonna be good.

589
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: All Right, we gotta take a break, but we are

590
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: asking can this quarterback class this year duplicate what the

591
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen quarterback class did. That's the Josh Allen quarterback group.

592
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: You let us know at eight oh three oh five

593
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: fifty break time back in a second here on one

594
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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. All right, welcome back to one Bill five

595
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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Task here on a Thursday talking about

596
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: the quarterback class this year and how you think it

597
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: might compare to the twenty eighteen class which included Josh Allen,

598
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: and if you think they can duplicate what that class

599
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Speaker 2: has done, which isn't exactly overwhelming. As Steve outlined in

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00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: the first segment, you really have Josh and Lamar and

601
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Speaker 2: the other guys. A couple of them are hanging on.

602
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Speaker 1: And we've said that the studies over the past, you know,

603
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: a couple of decades, we'll say it's a with the

604
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: quarterback position, it's kind of a coin flip. You got

605
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Speaker 1: a good chance the guy would be a superstar or

606
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: he'll be a flop. And this class is twenty eighteen

607
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: class with Josh Lamar and then maybe if you count

608
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield as a backup, it's a coin for half

609
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: the half the class was good. Two and a half guys, right,

610
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: it's Josh Lamore and then Baker, Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold

611
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: we'll see these now. This class has got five guys

612
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: just to pick the two winners, well, the two and

613
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: a half winners.

614
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: Right, Mayfield will have a chance to compete for a

615
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: starting job in Tampa. That's where he landed in free agency.

616
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: Even so, but they could very well draft one of

617
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: these five guys. Well, yeah, next nineteenth if if Hooker's

618
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: on the board and they like him enough, it just

619
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: it could be.

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Speaker 1: The face always seems so unbelievably easy when you look backwards.

621
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Speaker 1: Of course, Josh are gonna be six. You know, he's

622
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: as tall as a tree, He's got an enormous arm,

623
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: smart athlete. And Lamar Jackson is a quarterback like nobody's

624
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: ever seen before, runs a four to threes, big, got

625
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: an arm, and Lamar has been an MVP. So and

626
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: Josh has been in the conversation for three years. Those

627
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: two guys, it's you look back and you think, wow,

628
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: how of course there was never a question. Well, yeah,

629
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: nobody knew. So how do you look at this class

630
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: and look at any different Anthony Richardson, if you're going

631
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: to compare, is the Josh Allen of the.

632
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: Class, Yeah, right, doesn't actually have a huge body of work,

633
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: but has all the lead athletic trades you could ask

634
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: for and more. And if you believe that he has

635
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 2: the want to and the desire to be great at

636
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: football and football is number one, well then you can

637
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: project that ceiling maybe a little bit more confidently, which

638
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: is what you heard from Brandon Bean and all the

639
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: guys that drafted Josh once they flew out to Laramie

640
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: and met with him for two days, they were sold, right,

641
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: this kid wants to be great at football, even if

642
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 2: he hasn't put it all together yet as a two

643
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: year starter in Wyoming, and.

644
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Speaker 1: We see the results, you can, you know, do the

645
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: alternate history if you want, You say, well, you can

646
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: tell by looking at the film. They were asking him

647
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: to do some things that were really impossible. You'd never

648
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: ask a pro quarterback or you know, you wouldn't ask

649
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers to work that kind of offense.

650
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: You know that he was working in my in Wyoming

651
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: and expect to be successful at least expect to complete

652
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: sixty percent of your passes. And you know, coming out

653
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: he was a fifty two percent completion percentage guy. And

654
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Speaker 1: everybody said, well, you're never going to see a guy

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Speaker 1: go above sixty after being that in college. Well, we

656
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: did all of that. So it's interesting. And we want

657
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: to ask you guys out there, our listeners, which two

658
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: of these guys are going to be MVP candidates? Seriously? Yeah,

659
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Speaker 1: I mean that's what you're looking at of this twenty

660
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Speaker 1: eighteen class.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't go over three of them, can't. I

662
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: hope they're in the NFC if they do well. Yeah,

663
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: the good ones. You hope the good ones are at

664
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Speaker 2: the That's right. We got to step aside here because

665
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Speaker 2: when we come back, we're going to be telling you

666
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Speaker 2: about a great new partnership between the Buffalo Bills and

667
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Speaker 2: the American Heart Association. Will be sure to tell you

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Speaker 2: more when we return here on One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 2: by co Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All

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Speaker 2: right back here on One Bill's Live Chris Brown, Steve

671
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Speaker 2: Tasker and join right now by COEO. The Buffalo Bills

672
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Speaker 2: we're on, and also Jason Stealt American Heart Association, uh

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Speaker 2: local president or what executive dorut executive director. Right, it's

674
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Speaker 2: about the same, perfect, We're good. I guess the first

675
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Speaker 2: thing here because it was an announced on Buffalo bills

676
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Speaker 2: dot Com already, but a great commitment by the Bills

677
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Speaker 2: to kind of partner here with the American Heart Association run.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Chris, we're really excited about it. Obviously, everything that

679
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Speaker 7: the American Hearts Association stands for CPR training, AED access,

680
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Speaker 7: hands on CPR, you know specifically, this has touched the organization,

681
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Speaker 7: you know, deeply in the last twelve months, and you know,

682
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Speaker 7: for the Pagulas and and everybody in the organization to

683
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Speaker 7: make this commitment is really outstanding and will provide great

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Speaker 7: benefit to the community in the long run.

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Speaker 1: And how fitting is it, Ben, You're given what happened

686
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: to Demur and and what we've with the revelations about Kim,

687
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: all the things in our in our in our in

688
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Speaker 1: our organization that we've had to deal with, and now

689
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Speaker 1: how it's spilled over into the greater community. And the

690
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Speaker 1: AHA is part of that, right Jason.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, Yeah, you know, it is the silver lining of

692
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Speaker 8: you know, both of those stories, you know, the story

693
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Speaker 8: with Damar and the news about Kim. The silver lining

694
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Speaker 8: is that we've had such an outpourting of interest to

695
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Speaker 8: learn CPR, you know, both hands only and certifications and

696
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Speaker 8: everything so you know, if we can walk away from

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Speaker 8: both of those incidences where you know, thousands and thousands

698
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Speaker 8: more Western New York residents no CPR, that's great.

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Speaker 1: So give us an idea. You've got a couple of

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Speaker 1: events now, then it really is mushroom because there's been

701
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Speaker 1: so much awareness about listen to how tough can it

702
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Speaker 1: be to get certified as a CPR get because we

703
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Speaker 1: saw it works, right, So give us an idea of

704
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Speaker 1: some of the events that you've got coming up this summer.

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Speaker 1: And the Bills are being a part of all of that, yep, definitely.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, in collaboration with the Buffalo Bills, we have

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Speaker 8: some events coming up. On the first one on June

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Speaker 8: third here at high Mark, we'll be training thousands of

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Speaker 8: you know Buffalo residents and hands only CPR. And then

710
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Speaker 8: we have the second one coming up on June tenth

711
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Speaker 8: as well, and that one's at Johnny B. Wiley Athletic

712
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Speaker 8: Pavilion downtown, So we'll be you know, focused on you know,

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Speaker 8: lots of different groups from across the region coming and

714
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Speaker 8: you know learning hands only CPR will have other you

715
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Speaker 8: know vendors there, you know, health related event as well,

716
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Speaker 8: true event for the community and you know, hopefully a

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Speaker 8: lot of people will walk away being more prepared in

718
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Speaker 8: case of a card dec arrest or an emergency.

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Speaker 2: And this was a measure run that the Bills organization

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Speaker 2: kind of tackled internally with their own internal training before

721
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Speaker 2: partnering up for making this available to the public on

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Speaker 2: a wide scale.

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Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, Chris, You're absolutely right, we have and we did,

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Speaker 7: and then to partner with the American Heart Association allows

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Speaker 7: us to expand it. You know, I think one of

726
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Speaker 7: the things that you know, it has been said, it's

727
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Speaker 7: it's for the community as a whole, but it's also

728
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Speaker 7: really going to focus on you know, communities that aren't

729
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Speaker 7: served as well, you know, with this access in this training,

730
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Speaker 7: and that's a commitment you know that we have from

731
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Speaker 7: an organizational standpoint.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The cool thing that I saw, Jason, you know,

733
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Speaker 2: amongst some of these talking points that you guys have

734
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Speaker 2: laid out in terms of the initiative is getting these

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Speaker 2: kits in the hands of youth sports organizations. Because this

736
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Speaker 2: stat stunned me, like just it's more popular with respect

737
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Speaker 2: to young athletes, cardiac arrest leading cause of death in

738
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Speaker 2: young athletes seventy five percent of all fatalities that occurred

739
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Speaker 2: during sports are cardio vascular related. So maybe just it's

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Speaker 2: kind of a no brainer. Get these things in the

741
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Speaker 2: hands of youth.

742
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Speaker 1: Coaches and leagues, right, yeah, oh yeah, absolutely.

743
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Speaker 8: We know when you say those stats, you realize how

744
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Speaker 8: important it is that everybody related to youth sports is

745
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Speaker 8: prepared in case of a cardiac emergency. Right, So you're

746
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Speaker 8: not just talking about you know, maybe one or two

747
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Speaker 8: people from the organization being CPR certified, but you're talking

748
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Speaker 8: about these CPR and youth sports kits. That organization is

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Speaker 8: able to train hundreds of people throughout the year. So

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Speaker 8: you can then take that and teach the parents on

751
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Speaker 8: the team, You can take that and teach other coaches,

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Speaker 8: so that you have a whole network within that organization.

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Speaker 8: You're talking about youth sports, you know, teams, you're talking

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Speaker 8: about whole organizations. You're talking about other youth related you know,

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Speaker 8: maybe like after school programs, et cetera. But you know,

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Speaker 8: everybody being able to jump into action in case of

757
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Speaker 8: an emergency.

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Speaker 1: That's what those kids are going to do. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's been interesting to you and you might imagine that

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Speaker 1: since you know January second that Monday night game in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: You've had like a six hundred percent increase in people saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, how tough can it be? And and really

763
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Speaker 1: that has transformed hands only CPR into what you hoped

764
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Speaker 1: it would be, right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, you know, outpouring of interest in it. You know,

766
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Speaker 8: we talked locally again across the entire country, you know, uh,

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Speaker 8: you know, page visits to our resources. You know, people

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Speaker 8: seeking out education, people wanting to be prepared. What you

769
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Speaker 8: saw with DeMar was, you know, the best possible outcome

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Speaker 8: from a chain of survival where CPR was administered ad

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Speaker 8: I think people realizing that they need to know that themselves.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and Ron like just the importance of getting

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Speaker 2: this out in the public because I think people say, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, if somebody in my family or a friend

775
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Speaker 2: or a neighbor has a cardiac event, we'll just get

776
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Speaker 2: him to the hospital. But then there's the stat seventy

777
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Speaker 2: percent of cardiac arrests that do not happen in the

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Speaker 2: hospital occurrent homes and private residences. You've got to be

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Speaker 2: on the spot ready to take care of that before

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Speaker 2: an ambulance or a nine to one one call can

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Speaker 2: even be made.

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Speaker 7: You know, what we've really learned is time is so

783
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Speaker 7: critical to this and you know, having this training and

784
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Speaker 7: having the knowledge of CPR hands on CPR, you know,

785
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Speaker 7: save saves minutes and minutes saves lives.

786
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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's really.

787
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Speaker 7: Important you know that everybody knows how to do this.

788
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Speaker 7: You never know when you're going to be in this position,

789
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Speaker 7: you know, as Jason said, Tomar's situation ended up the

790
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Speaker 7: best it possibly can. And he talks about a higher

791
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Speaker 7: purpose and seeing how many people have resonated to this,

792
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Speaker 7: how many people have gone to learn, how many people

793
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Speaker 7: will learn from this. It's a testament to you know,

794
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Speaker 7: what our staff did on the field that day, the

795
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Speaker 7: blessing of DeMar coming back, and what we can give

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Speaker 7: to the community because of that.

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Speaker 1: And also it seems fitting and I hadn't thought about it,

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Speaker 1: but come up Training of Training camp over Saint John Fisher. There,

799
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Speaker 1: they're gonna have a presence there, a tent where people

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Speaker 1: can go and learn more about it, get trained. Local

801
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Speaker 1: groups will be able to go in and see how

802
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Speaker 1: that goes. It's it's really is going to be a

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Speaker 1: partnership where it's going to be the aha, the American

804
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Speaker 1: Heart Association is going to be have a presence wherever

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Speaker 1: the Bills are this year.

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Speaker 8: Correct, Yeah, you know we talk about these events coming up.

807
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 8: Those are just the first few things in this collaboration. Uh,

808
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 8: it's it's a year long, you know, collaboration between our

809
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 8: two organizations where we'll be bringing CPR education to the

810
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Speaker 8: forefront of the community wherever.

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Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills are.

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Speaker 8: So, whether you're talking about training camp, you're talking about games,

813
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 8: you're talking about all those pieces of the community that

814
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Speaker 8: the Buffalo Bills touch, you know, we'll be there talking

815
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Speaker 8: about CPR education.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Bills are definitely you.

817
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Speaker 8: Know, leading the way you know, in this and not

818
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 8: only in this community, but you know, across the country

819
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Speaker 8: when it comes to you know, an NFL team working

820
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Speaker 8: with their community in order to uh to teach CPR.

821
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Speaker 7: You know, Steve, Sorry, Chris, going back to what what

822
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Speaker 7: you had asked earlier about the commitment. You know, you're

823
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Speaker 7: seeing what the next twelve months may look like, but

824
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Speaker 7: this is at minimum of five year commitment by the organization,

825
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Speaker 7: and we tend to build on this year to year

826
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Speaker 7: and hopefully you know, for decade or more going forward.

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Speaker 7: This is a really critically important thing to us as

828
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Speaker 7: an organization.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to get give Jason the opportunity because

830
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Speaker 2: we know that you have the event coming up on

831
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Speaker 2: June third, then there's another one on June tenth. I

832
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Speaker 2: want to emphasize the fact that the events are free

833
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: to the public, but you have to have a ticket

834
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Speaker 2: because they can only accommodate so many people for training,

835
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Speaker 2: I would assume, So how do they get their hands

836
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Speaker 2: on tickets?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so absolutely, Yep.

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Speaker 8: There's a great resource pays a linked on the Buffalo

839
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Speaker 8: Bills website that you can go to and you have

840
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 8: to go on and just like you would buy yep,

841
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 8: you go to Buffalo bills dot com slash heart for that,

842
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 8: and just like you would buy a ticket to a

843
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 8: game via ticket Master, you'll go on there and get

844
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Speaker 8: a free ticket to attend this. You're signing up for

845
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Speaker 8: a time to come and learn the hands only CPR

846
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 8: and then you have the rest of the event to

847
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Speaker 8: experience as well.

848
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Speaker 1: One of the things about this and you saw the

849
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Speaker 1: whole entire country saw what happened to tomorrow, but the

850
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: statistics are unbelievable, and you start reading about how this

851
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: how prevalent. It is. There are three hundred and fifty

852
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: thousand people who go who go down with cardiac arrests

853
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: every year in our country that are not in the

854
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: hospital when it happens. Ninety percent of them pass, they

855
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: die CPR. Only less than half of them get even

856
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: a chance to have somebody around do the CPR, but

857
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: that gives them like up to a three times better

858
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: chance of making it through it. So the people who

859
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: make it through of the ten percent, most of them

860
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: have get CPR. So if you know, the hundreds of

861
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: thousands of people who go down with this, the only

862
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: chance they've got is if someone and usually somebody they

863
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: know as a family member or friend who they're right there,

864
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: can give them CPR and something. Particularly a person like me,

865
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Speaker 1: I've got my parents are still alive, they're ninety two.

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Speaker 1: You know that kind of thing you could You could

867
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Speaker 1: be the thing that keeps Arina. You could be.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's it's most likely going to be a

869
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Speaker 8: loved one that you're performing SECRA on. You mentioned, you know,

870
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Speaker 8: forty percent of the public is apt to perform you know,

871
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 8: CPR on an individual, and that's where hands only comes

872
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 8: into play. So we're talking really a lot here about

873
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 8: hands only CPR, which breaks down those barriers as to

874
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 8: why someone wouldn't do CPR.

875
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: Right.

876
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: It makes it easy.

877
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 8: It's pushing hard and faster the center of the chest,

878
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 8: calling nine one one and pushing hard and faster the

879
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 8: center of the chest.

880
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: Right, It's very simple.

881
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 8: It's a lot easier, so that hopefully, when you know

882
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 8: something does happen, people are more comfortable administering that in

883
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 8: its nature and then increasing their chances of survival.

884
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Speaker 2: And I would imagine Ron that you mentioned it's a

885
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Speaker 2: five year commitment, even though year one is what everything

886
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Speaker 2: has been laid out here, So I would imagine you

887
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Speaker 2: guys are going to collaborate further after year one and

888
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: say what can we do to enhance the program for

889
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: year two, three, four, five.

890
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Speaker 7: That's exactly right, And you know, be remiss to say

891
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 7: we're also doing this with some great community partners as well.

892
00:43:58,840 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 2: It's not just the bills.

893
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 7: The American Heart Association, Hi Mark has already been involved,

894
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 7: Lolly Insurance has been involved, a county executive with the

895
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Speaker 7: Erie County Public Library System, and more and more of

896
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 7: our partners are asking how they can support us. So, yeah, Chris,

897
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Speaker 7: it's going to be a great community effort for a

898
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Speaker 7: number of years to come.

899
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Speaker 1: I'll say this too, what better organization than the one

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Speaker 1: that was highlighted throughout the country for what happened on

901
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: Monday night football and to be a part of that,

902
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: I could plaud applaud you from this partner. It makes

903
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: so much sense, too much, It makes too much sense

904
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Speaker 1: for it not to happen. So congratulations to both.

905
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Speaker 2: Of Yeah, Ron Jason, thanks very much for kind of

906
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Speaker 2: shedding some light on this initiative going forward. A reminder,

907
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Speaker 2: June third is the first event coming up to learn

908
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Speaker 2: hands on CPR. It will be taking place right here

909
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Speaker 2: at high Mark Stadium June tenth at the Johnny B.

910
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Speaker 2: Wiley Pavilion And if you want more information, you go

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Speaker 2: to Buffalo bills dot com slash hard to find out

912
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: how you can get a free ticket to register for

913
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Speaker 2: the event. We will take a break, be back with

914
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Speaker 2: more of your phone calls next here on One Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live presented by co Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

916
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Speaker 2: Thanks guys, that was a perfect.

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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: Hour number two on a Thursday, Chris Brown Steve Tasker

919
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,479
Speaker 2: with you talking about this year's quarterback class and whether

920
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: it can duplicate or measure up to the twenty eighteen

921
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: quarterback class, which, granted, is that about a forty percent

922
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: hit rate at this point in time. Yeah, and fortunately

923
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: the Bills are one of those teams that hit with

924
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 2: Josh Allen obviously, but which.

925
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: And it comes down to the question of which of

926
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Speaker 1: these five guys of this twenty twenty three class coincides

927
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Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, and which quarterbacks coincide with

928
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold. And then if you put Baker

929
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: Mayfield at the three spot of being you know, he's

930
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: competing for a starting job this year, but I don't

931
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: know who he's competing with. He's a backup right at

932
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: this point of his career. He's been tossed around now

933
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 1: in his fourth team, correct, ye, So and Sam Darnald

934
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: as well. I mean he's he's in the mix, but

935
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: he's just barely hanging on. Josh Rosen is the number

936
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: three last year, So those you know who co which

937
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: of these five quarterbacks coincide with it? Certainly Bryce Young

938
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: has been noted as being the top guy so far,

939
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: there was a little more question about that, and maybe

940
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 1: we'll get some somebody or some information, as we always

941
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Speaker 1: do before draft. Right at the eleventh hour of the draft,

942
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: they say, well, I don't know if Bryce Young is

943
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: actually the guy. Kind of information I doubt that.

944
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: Well, let's not forget the twenty eighteen draft. The Browns

945
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 2: had the top pick, the Jets pick third, and leading

946
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 2: up to the draft, the whole way, Donald's the number

947
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: one guy, right, Donald's the number one guy, And then

948
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: out of nowhere, two or three days before the like

949
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: a day before night one, we're hearing that Mayfield has

950
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: moved to the top of the Browns. But he didn't

951
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: move to the top of the board, right. They had

952
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 2: him there probably for a month, just nobody was wise

953
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 2: to it yet. And then all of a sudden, it's

954
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: remember how surprised we were. Holy crap, it's Mayfield. It's

955
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: gonna go first, Like we're all stunned.

956
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: And even then the Bills were like going, hey, we

957
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: got a shot at Sam right, well you think it,

958
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: yes and no. But then after the fact that Bill said, no,

959
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: we liked our guy, so they had it pegged.

960
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 2: Well, let's not forget they weren't at seven at the jump,

961
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Speaker 2: they were at twelve.

962
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Speaker 1: That's right. They had to make a move on draft Day,

963
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: so they.

964
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Speaker 2: Had gone up from twenty two to twelve after the

965
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Speaker 2: trade of Cordy Glenn to the Cincinnati Bengals, move up

966
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: ten spots and then sitting there at twelve after seeing

967
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: Mayfield go first. Bean was on the phone and he

968
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: was trying to get up there fast because he knew

969
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: the Jets picked third and you know behind them. He

970
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Speaker 2: was trying to do a deal with just about everybody.

971
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Speaker 2: He got their fast, but got on the phone with

972
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Speaker 2: Denver at five. That's the thing, and Denver said, Denver said,

973
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Speaker 2: we'll do the deal if our guy isn't there, right,

974
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Speaker 2: but if he's there, we're not doing it.

975
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: And their guy was chubbed.

976
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: The guy was Bradley Chubb and he was there, so

977
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: no dice there.

978
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: So then Denver looks like it.

979
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Speaker 2: They called Indy at six. They weren't moving because they

980
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 2: were committed to Quentin Nelson. So then it's Tampa at

981
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: seven and they finally got the deal done. Unfortunately, you know,

982
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: Josh was still on the board. I expect to be

983
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: I expect there to be similar type movement Steve from

984
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: that in this top ten because it's not just Houston

985
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: and it's not just Carolina, and it's not just Indy

986
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: that needs a quarterback. I mean, you could make an

987
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: argument for a team like Seattle, although I don't think

988
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: they'll do it. But Seattle they have a stopgap guy

989
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 2: in Gino Smith for the next two years, but you

990
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: could justify them putting somebody in the pipeline. Same thing

991
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 2: with the Raiders at seven. I mean, yeah, they signed

992
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo, but it's essentially a one year deal.

993
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: But think about this too. Seattle is the target for

994
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: somebody moving into the top five. Well that too, that's

995
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: a place where you got Jane Atlanta want to slide

996
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: up for me exactly, Atlanta want to slide up from eight.

997
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: Does Tennessee want to get in there at eleven? They do.

998
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: They want to jump up and get a guy in

999
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: the pipeline behind Ryan Tannehill for one year, all of

1000
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: Alex Smith and Pat Mahomes with the Chiefs five years ago,

1001
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: six years ago. You know, all that's possible. I think

1002
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: Seattle is an absolutely prime candidate because the Panthers need

1003
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Houston needs a quarterback, Seattle need does not,

1004
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: Indianapolis does. So three of the top four need a quarterback.

1005
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: One two and four need a quarterback. Now. Arizona is

1006
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: also ripe to trade out of that spot.

1007
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1008
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: So, because they're rebuilding around Kyler Murray.

1009
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 2: Pick three could be a pivot point quarterback.

1010
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: Pick three and pick five. Indianapolis could even say, hey, listen,

1011
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: will you flip flop.

1012
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: With us Jaez just so they don't get a leap front.

1013
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: Right, just so they get one of the top three

1014
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 1: guys if they get the fourth guider looking at will Levis.

1015
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 1: To me, they're looking at Will Levis or Hendon Hooker,

1016
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: and Hendon Hooker ain't gonna be ready till November unless

1017
00:50:58,640 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: they got some dark horse.

1018
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: There is new word now that Hendon Hooker is ahead

1019
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 2: of schedule, whatever that means. Yeah, but okay, so am

1020
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: I So I think Round one has every chance of

1021
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: being just as exciting as the twenty eighteen draft was

1022
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 2: in terms of people maneuvering and jockeying for a quarterback

1023
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: in the top ten. Will the quarterbacks be able to

1024
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 2: duplicate what the twenty eighteen quarterback class has done, Though

1025
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: some of it.

1026
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: Some of it is gonna have to do with where

1027
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: they get picked. You may have a guy like like

1028
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers picking number one overall, say they pick

1029
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: Bryce Young. Bryce Young goes there and is just okay

1030
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: for whatever, because of it's the Carolina Panthers. But a

1031
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: guy like c. J. Stroud goes to the Panthers, same pick,

1032
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: same draft. They just one guy gets taken, the other

1033
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: guy doesn't. But the one guy they taken in a

1034
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: c J. Stroud all of a sudden explodes down there.

1035
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: He's off the charts. He's he's Josh Allen and Cam

1036
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: Newton all rolled into one for Carolina. He does well.

1037
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: You could get that kind of thing if if Carolina

1038
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: picks the wrong the right guy, it doesn't matter which

1039
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: one of the five it is. It could be the

1040
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: right guy in Carolina, but that same guy if you

1041
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: mix those same five guys up, say, for instance, if

1042
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen would have picked first overall to Cleveland, is

1043
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: he the same Josh Allen? Well maybe, or maybe the

1044
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 1: team around him and the head coach and the general

1045
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: manager around him don't know how to do it the

1046
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: way Sean McDermott, Brandon Bean did, and he struggles because

1047
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: he's got nobody around him or the organization crumbles around him.

1048
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but look at Carolina and the infrastructure they've put

1049
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: in place already. You not only have Frank Reich, who

1050
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 2: is a proven developer of quarterback talent and the miracle

1051
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 2: miracles he worked with Carson Wentz in Philadelphia to what

1052
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: he did with Nick Foles on a playoff run to

1053
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. You have that. Then the offensive coordinator

1054
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 2: or the quarterbacks coach is Josh mca count who played

1055
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: in the league for fourteen years as a quarterback. He's

1056
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 2: a quarterbacks coach. And then you look at who the

1057
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: veteran quarterback is on the roster. It's Andy Dalton, right.

1058
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: So that's a heck of an environment to walk into.

1059
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: That's a great support it is.

1060
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: It is an absolute incubator for a young quarterback. I

1061
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: don't if you can't make I'll just say this, if

1062
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: you can't make it as a quarterback in that environment,

1063
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: you can't make it. You can't. Those three guys along

1064
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: the head coach, the quarterbacks coach, and your backup quarterback

1065
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: are all three mentor type individuals.

1066
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 2: And I remember talking to Frank when we had him

1067
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 2: on the show with the Combine and he was raving

1068
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: about Thomas Brown, the offensive coordinator, who he had not

1069
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 2: worked with before previously, but he comes from the Rams

1070
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: staff and he was raving about him. Who's you know,

1071
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 2: done a lot of good things with Stafford and golf obviously,

1072
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: So man alive. You want to talk talk about a

1073
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: good situation, you're hoping you go Number one.

1074
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: If I'm if I'm an agent for one of these

1075
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: five guys, I am absolutely wearing Frank Reich out with

1076
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: phone calls. My guy is your guy? My guy is

1077
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: your guy? You can't. You can't. Those other guys can't.

1078
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: Holy candle to Mike.

1079
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 2: All of that.

1080
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: You've got to also look at the quarterbacks as individuals.

1081
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: Forget about the incubators that we're talking about and where

1082
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: they're at Houston, Texas. Houston has been a dumpster fire

1083
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: of a franchise for about five years. Is that where

1084
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: you want your guy to go? Does any does any

1085
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: player coming out if they go to Houston? Can they

1086
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: be successful?

1087
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: Right?

1088
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: Those two what you just outlined with the Carolina Panthers,

1089
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: for the experience and the hires that they have made,

1090
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: looks ready made to sprout wings and take off. That

1091
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: is a franchise that you got to buy now because

1092
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna skyrise.

1093
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 2: In my opinion. The Texans staff, you got Damiko Ryans

1094
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: defensive minded head coach, so the OC becomes eminently important.

1095
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 2: It's Bobby Slowick, who's a veteran coach, and he has

1096
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 2: proclaimed that the Texans offense is going to be aggressive,

1097
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: fast and decisive. Okay, that's great. The quarterbacks coach is

1098
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: Jerrod Johnson, who has never been a quarterbacks coach in

1099
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 2: the league before. He's been an assistant. He was in

1100
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: Minnesota last year and he's worked his way up through

1101
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 2: the ranks. He's considered a fast rising coach, which is good.

1102
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes those guys really hit critical mass when they're put

1103
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: in a position like that. So we'll see. But I

1104
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: don't know that that staff has the chops. Yea, the

1105
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 2: Carolina staff has.

1106
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: And you can say that too because Josh mccount hasn't

1107
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: been a quarterbacks coach either, right, So that's in fact,

1108
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: he's hasn't been a coach at the pro level at

1109
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: eight of any kind. At least the guy in Houston

1110
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: has been in the system in the league and knows

1111
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: how it is to be in an NFL environment as

1112
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: a coach. Josh mccount has none of that. That's one

1113
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: thing that you can hold the Texans above Carolina in.

1114
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: Although you know, the experience of being a player and

1115
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: having a bunch of quarterback coaches during your career really

1116
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: gives you an idea of what the insight is to

1117
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: how to do that job right. So it's not like

1118
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 1: Josh mccownt hasn't seen that job done and done well.

1119
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: The entire organization in Houston has to be suspect at

1120
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: this point for the way they have handled the transition

1121
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: from Bob McNair to his son taking over the team.

1122
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: It's there's a big change there, and I think they're

1123
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: still having grown pains.

1124
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I yes, I could see an argument for that

1125
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 2: quite easily. I think the general consensus with this class, Steve,

1126
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 2: is that Anthony Richardson probably as the highest ceiling.

1127
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 1: He's the Josh Allen of this class.

1128
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 2: He has the highest ceiling, biggest questions, the highest the

1129
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: highest floor. Would you say that it's Bryce Young? Probably?

1130
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: Bryce Young is the highest floor prospect. Right. That's not

1131
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 2: to indicate he doesn't have a higher ceiling. He does

1132
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 2: have a high ceiling, I think, but I think in

1133
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 2: terms of NFL readiness, yeah, I would say it's probably

1134
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: Bryce Young.

1135
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,479
Speaker 1: You could make the case for Stroud in that case,

1136
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: but I don't think the floor for Stroud is much

1137
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: lower than Bryce Young's floor, although Bryce Now, I would

1138
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: say Bryce at ways put it this way, their floor

1139
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: is the same, but Bryce Young's got a stronger foundation,

1140
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Stroud. I think some of

1141
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: the other things that make Stroud more enticing is the

1142
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: fact that the guy's built like an NFL quarterback. And

1143
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: if it's gonna be harder for a guy to bend

1144
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: him in half and take him out of the game

1145
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: and then go have a beer, right Bryce Young, You

1146
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: get the feeling if if he gets caught, you know,

1147
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he could get bumped into from behind and

1148
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: be out for two weeks.

1149
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 9: C J.

1150
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: Stroud looks like he could take a shot from a

1151
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: defensive tackle and get up and call the next play.

1152
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: That's part of the floor scenario. But Bryce Young, I

1153
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: think he is the pro ready guy. He's the guy

1154
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: that you would expect when he's drafted number one overall.

1155
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: He would have the chops to go in and say,

1156
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: this is my team, here we go, here's the first play,

1157
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: let's go. That kind of presence, he would have that

1158
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: kind of confidence. All the other guys maybe have some

1159
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: questions whether they can pull that off.

1160
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Young's football IQ is just a little

1161
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: bit better than everybody else. Is not to say that

1162
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 2: it's not good with the other guys. Stroud has a

1163
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 2: good football IQ. I think Richardson is still putting it

1164
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: all together, and then levis pretty good football IQ. Same

1165
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: thing with Hooker. Hooker's injury hurts him. I think levis

1166
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: being unable to raise the level of the Kentucky program

1167
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: with his abilities. Although that's a uphill climb in the

1168
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 2: SEC heavy lift, you don't want to ding him too

1169
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: much for that. Yes, so, but Hooker did it in Tennessee.

1170
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: Granted he had more talent around him.

1171
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: So much of that has to do with that evaluation.

1172
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about not the player and their ability to

1173
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: do it, but so much of knowing whether they're that

1174
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: guy that can do that is sitting down and looking

1175
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: him in the eye and saying, Okay, what happens if

1176
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: this happens on your team? What happened here and having

1177
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: the guy explain why this happened, and this happened you

1178
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: know when you sit down and talk to these guys

1179
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: and find out the kind of person they are. And

1180
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: you alluded to it for the twenty eighteen class when

1181
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean, Sean mcdermom they all went out to Laramie

1182
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: and spent two days with Josh Allen.

1183
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 3: That was it.

1184
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: They knew. They knew. Is there a team on this

1185
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: list from one through five or seven? Whoever it is

1186
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: all those you know, Carolina Houston, Indianapolis, is there one

1187
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: of those three teams who have talked to these four

1188
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: guys and they're looking they have and they look got

1189
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: them in the eye and said, that's our guy. That's

1190
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: our guy right there. Forget the other guys. Is there?

1191
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: Who's that? That's what I want to know? And maybe

1192
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 1: they maybe it is Stroud for all of them. Maybe

1193
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: Houston knows they got no shot at getting up to

1194
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: the number one spot and they're just gonna say, well,

1195
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: what can we do with CJ or whoever the other

1196
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: guy is, right, Indianapolis is saying that that's it means

1197
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: so much getting to know who these guys are, what

1198
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: makes them tick, how they think, where they're from, what's

1199
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: important to them, how they lead that exactly.

1200
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 2: It's a natural leadership position. Yes, you can't not be

1201
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: a natural leader and reach the pinnacle of quarterback efficiency.

1202
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 2: Can't raise the level of your team the same way

1203
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 2: if you can't.

1204
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: Lead at that spot. And there's a lot of different

1205
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: ways to do it. The most important way is this

1206
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: and Gosh is notorious for this, and so were the

1207
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: other guys you know that I've been around Jim Kelly

1208
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: and other great Frank Reich was. You know, the the

1209
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: key thing to leadership Particlion football is first of all,

1210
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: you got to be you, and you've got to be

1211
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: you in such a way that other guys want to

1212
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: play with you. That's what it is. If you're playing

1213
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: hard and you work hard and you're a genuine guy,

1214
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: they'll rally, they'll be themselves and they'll they'll rally to you.

1215
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: And it's so when they say leadership, it comes down

1216
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: to who the guy is. And we've talked about it.

1217
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: Look at the kind of guy that Kyler Murray is.

1218
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: I ain't nobody lining up to play with that guy, right,

1219
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: And you know that was that was what happened with

1220
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: Geno Smith in New York. Remember he had guys breaking

1221
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: taking punches at him. Yep, you know he couldn't do it.

1222
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: Now he's ten years later, he's kind of come full circle,

1223
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: or at least in a one't eighty. Now he's got

1224
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: guys playing hard for him. And it took him a

1225
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: while to get there, Right, he had some things to learn.

1226
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: Nobody's got the patience to wait ten years on a

1227
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: first pick of the draft. Right, you're gonna be someplace else.

1228
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: So what kind of guy are they? They sit down

1229
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: and talk with these guys and listen. They get experts.

1230
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: It's not just Brandon Bean Sean McDermott. They'll get a

1231
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: psychological person in there say what do you think about this? Well,

1232
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: he's got this and he's got this going on.

1233
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 2: They will also I don't know if the Bills do this,

1234
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: but I know a lot of teams film the interviews

1235
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 2: that they conduct and then they have somebody like that,

1236
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 2: a body language expert. Yep, is this guy telling the truth?

1237
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 2: How does he genuinely feel about that? Answer? Based on

1238
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 2: how he's behaving there, like he's shifting in his seat,

1239
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 2: did he purse his lips all of those things. They

1240
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 2: do that too, because any ounce of information they can

1241
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 2: because the position's too important and the draft pick you're

1242
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 2: using is too And.

1243
01:02:55,560 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: I've said this too, and they still miss, yeah, say,

1244
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: because they don't heed whatever information's out there they or

1245
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: they choose to believe the wrong information whatever. I had

1246
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: the occasion to talk to people who were in drafts

1247
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: like this, and I go, you know, they go through

1248
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: all of these machinations that we're talking about, you know,

1249
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: the interviews and the analysis and the film study and

1250
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: the you talk to who they know, and they talk

1251
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: to their family and their coaches and their whole past.

1252
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: You got you do all that stuff to find out,

1253
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: you know, is he the right guy or not? And

1254
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: and that's all great, he's the right guy, he's not.

1255
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: He's not the right guy. You don't want to give

1256
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: it to him. The problem is this, you gotta pick somebody.

1257
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: You gotta pick somebody. R he comes down to it.

1258
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: You've got to make a pick.

1259
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 2: Does that tell us something about the New England Patriots

1260
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: and how often they trade out we're down in the

1261
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: first round.

1262
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: Maybe, yes, there's a lot in that. You gotta pick.

1263
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 2: I don't let's get it right.

1264
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: None of these guys. These guys all stink. I don't

1265
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: like them that this guy's got this issue. You can

1266
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: and there's some issues. Coaching staffs will take on a

1267
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: lot of challenges, but there's some things that are like going,

1268
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: I can't fix I can't fix stupid, you know, I

1269
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: can't fix I can't fix angry. You know, I can't

1270
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: fix you know, busted. So they can make guys better

1271
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: football players, but when they get a guy who's not

1272
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: a good human being or has some issues that he

1273
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: can't overcome, you can't waste your football team's time trying

1274
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: to fix a guy off the field so that he

1275
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: can play on the field. Right, And that's a huge

1276
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: part of these interviews.

1277
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 2: All right, So let me ask you this, of these

1278
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 2: five quarterbacks that could all go in Round one this year,

1279
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 2: who are your two that mimic Josh and Lamar's success

1280
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 2: from this class. Let's assume this quarterback class bats the

1281
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 2: same average as the twenty eighteen class. They match with

1282
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 2: the twenty eighteen class is done here in five years.

1283
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 2: Who are your two players from this class that are

1284
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 2: essentially Lamar and Josh and they don't have to have

1285
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 2: the same skill set. I'm just saying, in terms of

1286
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 2: successful franchise quarterback.

1287
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: I've got three that I think. Anthony Richardson is the

1288
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: guy that's gifted. If he's got a good head on

1289
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: his shoulders, if he's smart, and if he can learn,

1290
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: and if he picks stuff up, if he's got and

1291
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: he's got commitment, that's the guy. Because he outthrows and

1292
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: outruns everybody. He's a huge he's a huge athlete. Now,

1293
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: if he's that guy, that guy's like, man, I want

1294
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: to play with him, like like Baltimore is with Lamar.

1295
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Speaker 1: Those guys rally around that dude. They love that guy, right.

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01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: If he's that kind of guys, it's CJ or Anthony Richardson. CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud is a guy like that. He's got some skills,

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01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: he's got a big arm, and he's a big athlete,

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Speaker 1: and he's made some throws at Ohio State. You and

1300
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: I were watching it. I love the guy. I think

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01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: he's great. And the dark horse for me is Hendon Hooker.

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01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: I've always liked him and his situation with his injury.

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01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: He's got an ACL and he won't be ready to

1304
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: play until halfway through the season. To me, that is

1305
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 1: in this case, that is a huge benefit for him.

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01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't want him to be ahead of schedule. I

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01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 1: want him to be off the books for as long

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01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: as he can be so he can get ready so

1309
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: when he hits the field, if he goes to a

1310
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: team I don't like Washington Commanders or someplace like that,

1311
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: where he can sit for a couple of months, learn

1312
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: the system, get acclimated, learn his day to day routine,

1313
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: get acclimate, get up and get how how to assim

1314
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: assimilate a game plan, a pro game plan, the nooks

1315
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: and crannies of an NFL offense, the relationships you have

1316
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: to foster with your your teammates, both as skilled players

1317
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: and the guy's up front. When he can get two

1318
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: months of watching that live up close in the room

1319
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: in the building, training, getting ready, and then can just

1320
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 1: wet his appetite at the end of the season, I

1321
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: think that sets him up for a really much better

1322
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: start to his career when he does get on the

1323
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: field in a regular basis than these other guys like

1324
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: Holmes plan. Yeah. Now, certainly we've talked about Carolina Panthers,

1325
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: but you know they're working progress around him. You know,

1326
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: no matter who he's got, you know Frank and you

1327
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: know Josh and these guys coaching him and Andy Dalton

1328
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: in the room, they can do a lot, but they

1329
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: can't play left tackle, you know. So to me, Hendon

1330
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: Hooker out of these five is an intriguing project because

1331
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: he may have the longest runway to get good.

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01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 2: I think the best way to get good, though, is playing.

1333
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 2: But I'm kind of in the same boat. I think

1334
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 2: the two that will pan out here are Stroud and Richardson.

1335
01:07:55,280 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 2: Stroud won me over in the Peach Ball the college

1336
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 2: football semi final against Georgia. Yes, you've got two offensive

1337
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 2: tackles who are going to be first round draft well,

1338
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 2: one will be a first round draft pick, the other

1339
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 2: will probably be a second round draft pick. But you

1340
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 2: had good pass protection against the best defense in college

1341
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 2: football the last two years running, and you went toe

1342
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 2: to toe with that group and scored forty one points

1343
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: of Georgia. And that's what I'm saying. And took off

1344
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 2: and showed he's got the feat to make plays, you know,

1345
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 2: after the original play is broken down, which we hadn't

1346
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 2: really seen a whole lot of because more often than not,

1347
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 2: the receivers for Ohio State were open and he had

1348
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 2: people to throw to. Against Georgia they did not, and

1349
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 2: he made plays with his legs which we had not

1350
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 2: really seen before. So the combination of his decision making

1351
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 2: and his game overall against the best defense in the

1352
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 2: country by far sold me on him. So I would

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01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 2: say Stroud and Richardson as well. I'm not as high

1354
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 2: on Hndon Hooker as you are, And I don't know

1355
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 2: there's something there that I feel is missing. Could it

1356
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 2: be could that gap be filled in with training and

1357
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: good coaching? I suppose Levis too many questions. Levis seems

1358
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 2: like a wild card to me, a little bit young.

1359
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 2: I think has it between the ears, much like his

1360
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 2: predecessor Toua and mac Jones. But the size terrifies me.

1361
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 2: It absolutely terrifies me. Even if this is a guy

1362
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 2: that can get the ball out early and can process things,

1363
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 2: what happens on third and twenty when you gotta let

1364
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 2: a route develop and you gotta wait and it's gonna

1365
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 2: and maybe take a hit as you make a throw.

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01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 2: That guy is tiny. He's five pounds heavier than me.

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01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: He's little, He's really little, and sooner terrified sooner or

1368
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: later somebody's going to get a shot on him. You

1369
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: can say what you about the game being soft and

1370
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 1: they protect quarterbacks all that stuff. You're playing quarterback in

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01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 1: the National Football League and you are nothing but a

1372
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: bullseye or just and foremost.

1373
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 2: I just worry his career is not going to be

1374
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 2: a long one.

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01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: And even though he's a tiny bullseye, I'm with you.

1376
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: He is he's just he's he's a risk. I mean physically.

1377
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 2: Tua tonga Iloa just finished his third year in the league,

1378
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 2: and he was contemplating retirement this offseason because durability was

1379
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 2: a problem and concussions were the result. It's a big

1380
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 2: man's game. And if I have a prospect who's remotely

1381
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 2: close to what what Young, what Bryce Young is, I'm sorry,

1382
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 2: I'm taking the bigger dude. If there's a wide disparity

1383
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 2: between the two, I make the exception and I roll

1384
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 2: the dice. But holy cow, if I got a guy

1385
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: that's big in stature, stronger, you know, I'm not holding

1386
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 2: my breath every time he takes off to run. I'm sorry.

1387
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm taking that guy.

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01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: I just am.

1389
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 4: Now.

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01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: Bryce Young does have like we said, he's got the

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01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: the most solid floor of any of these guys and

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01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: the highest floor. He's gonna be able to run a

1393
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 1: pro offense and handle it and make decisions and release

1394
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: the football, no question about it. But he's gonna do it.

1395
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 1: And literally, he's going to weigh less than one hundred

1396
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: and seventy pounds doing it.

1397
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 2: And look, if let's just say, I'm painted into a

1398
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 2: corner and he's the best guy by far, and I

1399
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,679
Speaker 2: want to pick him, or I have I feel compelled

1400
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 2: to pick him. I am finding the best backup quarterback

1401
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 2: I can on the open market because I'm betting dollars

1402
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 2: to donuts. He's not playing more than thirteen fourteen games

1403
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 2: a year, So now I better have somebody else that

1404
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 2: can win me some games, not just fill in right now,

1405
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 2: Carolina has.

1406
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 1: That, which I think it's a huge concern and I don't,

1407
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm the last guy that should be talking.

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01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I played as an undersized player in the

1409
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: league as well, but I didn't play that position and

1410
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: I didn't play that many as many snaps as he's

1411
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: going to be expected to play. The statistics say that

1412
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna get wire and even and think about this, Brownie.

1413
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: Tua has never really taken an enormous shot. He just

1414
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 1: he's got thrown to the ground.

1415
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he never took a kill shot. The hardest hit

1416
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 2: he ever had was from aj and Panessa and.

1417
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: That put him out of a game.

1418
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 2: Yes, hit him under his armpit.

1419
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:36,759
Speaker 1: Forgot.

1420
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 2: It's the hardest hit he's taken in his career.

1421
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: Forgot about that.

1422
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, as you said, if you're gonna

1423
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 2: take Bryce Young too, what's around him better be pretty

1424
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 2: dang good protection perspective. And if I remember right, last year,

1425
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 2: the Panthers drafted ikey Ikwanu the left tackle. H Yes,

1426
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 2: they he was their first round pick last year in

1427
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 2: the top ten. And they've got a second round pick

1428
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 2: at right tackle and Taylor Moten. They also had a

1429
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 2: free agent pickup at guard in Austin Corbett last offseason

1430
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,480
Speaker 2: starting guard, good player. They got Bradley Boseman from Baltimore

1431
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 2: last year as well, I believe, so they have a

1432
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 2: good infrastructure from a past protection standpoint. So you could

1433
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 2: argue Bryce Young for them because tackle.

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01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 1: Well you can say that, but listen, it is a

1435
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: merciless league. If you got five good blockers, what are

1436
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 1: you gonna do when we send six You know, what

1437
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 1: are you gonna do when we run a stunt and

1438
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: you leave somebody untouched. It's gonna happen because we're gonna

1439
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: send pressure and you're gonna have to deal with it.

1440
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 1: And if you're wide out, so if you're not losing,

1441
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: he has to tap that ball once to wait for

1442
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: somebody to come open. And we got a free rusher.

1443
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: His one hundred and seventy pounds better be able to

1444
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: stand up to it. I don't sooner or later he's

1445
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 1: gonna get hit, just like Tua did. It happened early

1446
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: for Tua in the Bills game his rookie season. Well,

1447
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: like you said, et Penestic, they got two clean shots

1448
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 1: on him. The first one ended the first one ended

1449
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: the first drive of the game, the second one ended

1450
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 1: his day on the second drive of the game. And

1451
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 1: the Bills brought because the Bills brought pressure. You know,

1452
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: I have great doubts about I have great reservations about

1453
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: a quarterback who's that under to his undersized Baker Mayfield,

1454
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 1: you can make an you could make a case for

1455
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 1: being undersized. Kyler Murray certainly is undersized, but you never

1456
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: get a chance to hit him because he takes off.

1457
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just I have reservations about that.

1458
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 2: If I have other options and they fit the measurables

1459
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 2: better and they're not that far removed from Bryce Young

1460
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 2: as a total package taking the big guy. We got

1461
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 2: to take a break here. When we come back, your

1462
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 2: thoughts on the tweet sheet on this subject about the

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01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three quarterback class and maybe some time for

1464
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 2: a little NFL true false all coming your way next

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01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health, It's

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01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. All Right, welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, talking to you about

1468
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 2: this year's quarterback class and can it duplicate what the

1469
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen quarterback class did. That's Josh Allen's QB class

1470
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 2: with Lamar Jackson, Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield. You

1471
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 2: can let us know at eight three zero five point

1472
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 2: fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five point fifty

1473
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 2: the number to get on board. We do want to

1474
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 2: get to the tweets sheet to get some of your

1475
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 2: thoughts there. And first up is Jack who says, yes,

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01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 2: maybe better. Only Alan and Jackson are good of the

1477
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 2: five taken in twenty eighteen. If five are picked this

1478
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 2: year and go to the right situations, they should equal

1479
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 2: the twenty eighteen class, maybe even surpass it. Levis and Richardson,

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01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 2: if given time, have size and athleticism to succeed. I

1481
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,759
Speaker 2: like Young, but size is a worry. We'll see about

1482
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 2: the other two. Yeah. Levis is probably the closest to

1483
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 2: Richardson in terms of physical talent. Throws the ball a

1484
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 2: mile right, so there is athletic upside there. He is

1485
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 2: a wild card. I guess Richardson is too, if you

1486
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 2: really come down to it, right, I still like Richardson

1487
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 2: and Strout's chance is the best, but only time will tell.

1488
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 2: Situation is a big part of it, though, jacksone hundred percent.

1489
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 3: Right.

1490
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 2: Where you land is a big deal.

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01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about that a little earlier, and that's

1492
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 1: it's huge. It's really huge.

1493
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 2: Where you don't want to land is the Jets. They

1494
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 2: haven't developed a quarterback in forty eight years.

1495
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: There you go, there's no There has to be a

1496
01:16:56,360 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: level of patience, and New York is infamous for being patient.

1497
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 2: And competency in terms of coaching a guy up.

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01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: Right, So I think if you picked I mean, maybe

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01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 1: that's maybe that's even more fun exercises. Pick the spot

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01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 1: where you think those three of the first four teams

1501
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: are gonna get a quarterback if you go Bryce Shung CJ.

1502
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 1: Stroud to the Houston Texans and the third one, who's

1503
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 1: your third in this scenario. Richardson Anthony Richardson going to Indianapolis.

1504
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 1: I think Anthony Richardson going to Indianapolis it's a disaster.

1505
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 2: Mainly because of the owner. You got a first time

1506
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 2: head coach in Shane Steiken. You have a good OC there,

1507
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 2: Jim Bob Cooter.

1508
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 1: Jim Bob Cooter's a good OC.

1509
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 2: So there is that, and Shane Stikeen has been a

1510
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 2: coordinator himself with the Eagles and the Chargers, So.

1511
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 1: You could do worse.

1512
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 2: The owner is the flying the ointment there because you

1513
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:02,560
Speaker 2: don't know what that guy's gonna do.

1514
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: That's the thing. AJ. I mean, Bryce Young is gonna play,

1515
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 1: and I think he'll play okay for Carolina even given

1516
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: the great the great environment he's in. I think he's

1517
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 1: gonna be limited physically and teams are going to force

1518
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 1: him to you know, Pat the ball, stand in the

1519
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: pocket and take a shot to deliver the football. If

1520
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: he can do that, he'll He'll succeed to a certain extent,

1521
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 1: no question. But there's a lot of the moving parts

1522
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: and we'll see how the team does. But for him,

1523
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: I think Caroline is the best case scenario for all

1524
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 1: of these guys. CJ. Stroud in Houston, I like the

1525
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: sound of it. He's big enough, strong enough to kind

1526
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: of do a little of it on his own. I

1527
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: think the organization is trying to get it right, even

1528
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: though they have come up woefully short. They're trying to

1529
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: climb out of the abyss that they were in. I

1530
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: anticipate from you know, from the words you hear in

1531
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: the reports coming out, they may be changing some things

1532
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: in the executive branch of that organization. So you never

1533
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 1: know how that's gonna settle out. But I could see

1534
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: c J. Stroud going to Houston and helping that franchise.

1535
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:19,680
Speaker 1: Now Indianapolis and Anthony Richardson, if you're gonna run an

1536
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: offense that works for Anthony Richardson right out of the choote,

1537
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 1: it's gonna look a lot like Baltimore's offense in you know,

1538
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. I don't think that's an organization that

1539
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: will go down that path. Yeah, and they will, and

1540
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 1: they will not be able to execute that plan as

1541
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 1: well as Baltimore was able to with Lamar. I mean,

1542
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 1: they got the guide to the MVP and it was

1543
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 1: large and do in my opinion, large measure to the

1544
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: roster they built around him. They always and the scheme

1545
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 1: they built right, the scheme is what did it that

1546
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,879
Speaker 1: the pundit everybody in the national media always said Baltimore

1547
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: didn't support Lamar and that because they and they link

1548
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,759
Speaker 1: it to the contract negotiation all that. I think that's bunk.

1549
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: Baltimore changed everything. They went from the highest paid pure

1550
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 1: drop back passer in the league in Joe Flacco, who

1551
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 1: won them a Super Bowl and absolutely flipped it on

1552
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: his head and got into a run first, quarterback centric

1553
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 1: running the football offense. They changed their offensive line, their

1554
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 1: skill positions, their philosophy, They brought in a perfect coordinator

1555
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 1: for it, and the guy won the MVP. And you're

1556
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: telling me they they didn't support him. They couldn't have

1557
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 1: done anymore for Lamar Jackson. Indianapolis is not going to

1558
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 1: execute it to the extent that Baltimore did. In my opinion,

1559
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about. And so I yeah, I

1560
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: think if Anthony Richardson goes to Indianapolis, the AFC South

1561
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 1: will continue to stink.

1562
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones and see what Mike in

1563
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 2: Tanawanda thinks. Mike, what do you got for us? You're

1564
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 2: on one Bill's live. Hold on a second, you're not

1565
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 2: popping up here? There we go. What do you got

1566
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 2: for his?

1567
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: Mike?

1568
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 9: Listen, I got a question about c J. Stroud. Everybody

1569
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 9: is so great about high about him from everything I've

1570
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 9: ever seen in my life, and I've been since the

1571
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 9: Bills since nineteen sixty one. I've been there fan. They

1572
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 9: never produce an NFL quarterback that's any good. I'll give

1573
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 9: you a list, Art Schleister, Bobby Hoying, Troy Smith, Drell

1574
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 9: Pryor Reraxton Miller, Cardile Jones, A, Dwayne Haskins, Justin Fields.

1575
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,679
Speaker 9: I think amongst those whole eight, they got about twenty

1576
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 9: NFL victories as a starting quarterback. What makes anybody think

1577
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 9: c J. Stroud is going to be much different coming

1578
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 9: out of Ohio State.

1579
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 1: Well, that's a good point, and you're right, and I've

1580
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 1: thought about that as well. I got to tell you, Mike,

1581
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. Accept that c J.

1582
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: Stroud isn't any of those guys. And I don't know

1583
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: that Art Schleister back in the nineteen eighties and his

1584
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: success or lack thereof, has is gonna have anything to

1585
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 1: do with whether c J. Stroud is gonna succeed or fail.

1586
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 1: I see the trend, there's no question about it. But

1587
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: every guy's different, Michael. What can I say? They've had

1588
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 1: a run of guys who played really good quarterback in

1589
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: college and couldn't do it in the pros. But that

1590
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: doesn't mean CJ is going to be different or the same.

1591
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 9: I mean, you could say this, I agree with you

1592
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 9: on that, but I still wonder is he really gonna

1593
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 9: be as good as they think you.

1594
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 2: You could say that about just about everybody that gets drafted, Mike,

1595
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 2: And and look, Mike, you could say the same thing

1596
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 2: about the University of Wyoming. If you apply that to

1597
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 2: the University of Wyoming, you don't draft Josh Allen. I realize, all.

1598
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: Right, I'll give you a better comparison.

1599
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 2: Hold on, I don't give you a better comparison. How

1600
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 2: about USC?

1601
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 1: After Carson Palmer, you got anybody, no, no same thing.

1602
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 2: So it's I mean, so I think I think you

1603
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 2: got to judge the guy on their own merit. And

1604
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 2: then because it's not a coaching staff, because the coaching

1605
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:01,560
Speaker 2: staff's changed so many times at these universities anyway, you

1606
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 2: can't apply it to a scheme or a coaching staff.

1607
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 2: I really think it's a little vacuum.

1608
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 1: I get it. My I think it's hard to ignore,

1609
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: except I guess I'm sitting here telling you to ignore it.

1610
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 1: But it could be something about the you know, Columbus

1611
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 1: where kids go in there as an Ohio State football

1612
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 1: player and they get treated differently for four years and

1613
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 1: it somehow warps them.

1614
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 2: Right say that about University of Texas players. They still

1615
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 2: do because they're coddled big time.

1616
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: But yeah they're soft. Texas players have that reputation, and

1617
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 1: maybe you can make that assumption. Maybe it only manifests

1618
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: itself when you're talking about, you know, quarterbacks at Ohio State,

1619
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 1: because there's been some really good players come out of

1620
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: Ohio State. But there is also that that thing that

1621
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: you talk about guys who went there that you know,

1622
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: Jim Trussell got fired because they he was trying to

1623
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:53,799
Speaker 1: protect his players.

1624
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,480
Speaker 2: Jury's still out on Justin Fields.

1625
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 1: Right, Justin Fields has a shot at it. You're right,

1626
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 1: And he did come out under this coaching staff. So

1627
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 1: this coaching staff may have turned the corner doing a

1628
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 1: little bit different with their quarterbacks, may be giving him

1629
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: a chance. But I'm with you, Mike. You look at

1630
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 1: that list of guys starting going all the way back

1631
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 1: to Art Schleister, Kirk, Herbstreet. You know those guys.

1632
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:22,759
Speaker 2: Usc is no better, Todd Marinovitch, John David Booty, no offense.

1633
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 2: But Matt Barkley was thought to be a much better

1634
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 2: prospect than the career that he's had.

1635
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: Right, who's the guy who's the quarterback with Reggie Bush?

1636
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: Matt Lion, Mattoner, another, Pat Hayden.

1637
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 2: Mark Sanchez, Sean Salisbury, Rob Johnson, Bill Nelson, Pete Bethard

1638
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 2: Rodney Pea stop, Matt Castle stop. I mean, you can

1639
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 2: say it about a lot of schools. And this is

1640
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 2: why quarterback is one of the most mispositions in the

1641
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 2: history of the league. With Round one draft choices.

1642
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: I'll say this to every one of those guys, you think, well,

1643
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 1: why do they keep drafting these guys. None of them

1644
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: can play out of that school. Every guy earns his opportunity,

1645
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 1: and C. J. Stroud is no different at Ohio State.

1646
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 1: He's played well enough for a good football team against

1647
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 1: really good competition at that level to earn a shot.

1648
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 1: So how he what he makes of it? You know,

1649
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 1: you'll we'll see. But you've got guys like you know,

1650
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 1: think about this list in the league right now. You

1651
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 1: got a kid out of LSU, and Joe Burrow kid

1652
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: out of Wyoming, and Josh Allen kid out of Texas Tech.

1653
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 1: In Pat Mahomes, you got it in Texas Tech. You've

1654
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:45,640
Speaker 1: got uh Justin Herbert who came out of Oregon. You know,

1655
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 1: none of those you know schools Oregon. You can make

1656
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: a case for having a few guys like Dan fouss

1657
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 1: Is out of there and guys like that Joey Harrington.

1658
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, right, I mean that's right. So these quarterbacks,

1659
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, they're all individuals and they all play the

1660
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 1: same position, but they're all different and for their own unique.

1661
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 2: That I think about it.

1662
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:13,560
Speaker 1: So they've all got every school you know, Florida, you know,

1663
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 1: you know, and you can go down the list. Two

1664
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 1: off a Heisman Trophy quarterbacks coming out.

1665
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,919
Speaker 2: Steve Spurrier, Gino Torretta.

1666
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 1: They can't play, some of them can't play, some of

1667
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: them can. But then you've got guys like coming out

1668
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 1: of Stanford, like John Elway, right, Jim Kelly come out

1669
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 1: of the University of Miami, Dan Marino had a pit,

1670
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 1: Joe Notre Dame, and Joe Montana. I mean, I don't

1671
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: know who is a Give me a school and there's

1672
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: got to be one who churns out quarterbacks. B why

1673
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 1: you did it for a minute, some.

1674
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 2: People would say Alabama because there's a couple in the

1675
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 2: league right now to mac Jones, they're the league and

1676
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,600
Speaker 2: passer rating this year. But mac Jones hasn't lit the

1677
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 2: world on fire.

1678
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, give me a school that is a

1679
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 1: good quarterback school. You know that's hard to find.

1680
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 2: Every I think everybody's got their washouts.

1681
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 1: They really, they really. It's it's a tough league to

1682
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 1: win in and what it takes to.

1683
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 2: People talk about Ohio State, what about Penn State, Like

1684
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:15,799
Speaker 2: they don't have a lot of quarterbacks.

1685
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, right before we take a break. You know, college

1686
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: football is the best showcase for who can and who

1687
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 1: can't play. But it is completely different. Even though a

1688
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 1: lot of the same everything looks the same, It's completely

1689
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 1: different than the pro game and that transition is what

1690
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: changes guys.

1691
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 2: Some final thoughts on the tweets sheeet next year on

1692
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 2: one Bill's Live. Stay tuned all right, before we get

1693
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 2: to some final thoughts on the tweet sheets, Steve. The

1694
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles apparently announced on their website that they hired

1695
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,560
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia as a senior defense assistant. He was the

1696
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 2: failed offensive coordinator of the Patriots last year and replaced

1697
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 2: by Bill O'Brien. Then the Eagles deleted the announcement. So

1698
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 2: somebody got a hold of Nick Sirianni, the head coach

1699
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,839
Speaker 2: of the Eagles, and he said, with respect to hiring

1700
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia, quote, we're trending in that direction. Nothing's final yet.

1701
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:24,759
Speaker 2: We'll see how that progresses. Obviously, his resume speaks for itself.

1702
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 2: He gives you a great mind in there that's done

1703
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 2: it at the highest level. Gives me another former head

1704
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 2: coach I can bounce ideas off. Matt Patricia senior defensive assistant.

1705
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 2: It's expected will be his title with the Philadelphia Eagles. Okay,

1706
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 2: he did lose his OC and his DC.

1707
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:50,560
Speaker 1: In this off senior defensive assistant. Okay, well, wonder what

1708
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:54,600
Speaker 1: that was like stepping out of Patriot Place, whether he

1709
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 1: was asked to.

1710
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 2: Leave or or allowed to Well, I mean he was

1711
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: essentially replaced. Is he going to stay on staff and

1712
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 2: put his tail between his legs? That's kind of little.

1713
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 1: Well, he's still getting paid by Detroit anyway, so.

1714
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 2: It's not like he's mistle bit of a not missing

1715
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Speaker 2: the arrangement.

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Speaker 1: It's not missing any meals. But still, all right, I

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Speaker 1: just found that's weird. That's really weird.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what to make of that.

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Speaker 2: I guess it's it's interesting, and you know, it's a

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Speaker 2: good defensive mind that goes to the NFC, so I

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Speaker 2: guess that's good. Although the Bills do play the Eagles

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Speaker 2: this year, so we will see him. That's it for

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Speaker 2: us here on a Thursday. Don't miss our Friday edition

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Speaker 2: of One Bills Live when we have our film reviewer

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Speaker 2: Greg Cosell reviewing Offensive Lineman. We'll see it one