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Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio Commies, a myth and bullshit, a radio

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Speaker 1: phonic novella Local Radio hosted by Malamoola Locamores. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: season five of Local Radio Rosas. Listen at your own risk.

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Speaker 1: Look at Radio is a radio phonic novella, which is

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Speaker 1: just a very extra way of saying a podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: diosa and I am mala. Thanks for tuning in to

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Speaker 1: one oh eight, Thanks for being here, Thanks for coming

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Speaker 1: to our weekly show. Thanks for tuning in, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: coming back. If you didn't notice, we are, in fact

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Speaker 1: a weekly show, please tell everybody that you know, please

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Speaker 1: don't miss an episode because we're just churning them out

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Speaker 1: these days every week, as a weekly show does. Per

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Speaker 1: my Bodyma, she asked me, how does it feel to

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Speaker 1: pop out an episode from your vagina per week? Not

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Speaker 1: exactly how I would describe the process, but that is

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Speaker 1: one way to look at it. It's a birth of sorts,

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Speaker 1: it's a birthing. It's a type of birthing. Not that

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Speaker 1: far off. So last week on Look at That our radio,

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Speaker 1: we discussed cheeto gate. We spoke with Rachel Reyes, who

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Speaker 1: A Times about Richard montonies and the origins of the

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Speaker 1: chip that today we now know as the Flaming Hot Cheeto.

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Speaker 1: So tune into that episode if you haven't already. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty salacious and dramatic. I really had fun that episode.

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Speaker 1: It's like a little bit of like like it's like

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Speaker 1: it's a little more of like a free form episode.

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Speaker 1: You know, we get into some nitty gritty topics, but

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Speaker 1: it's also like a little bit of cheeseman, you know,

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Speaker 1: which we which we love here. I look at what

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Speaker 1: our radio we respect the cheeseman, the community information. Oh yeah, one, um,

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Speaker 1: you know. I was actually this is not directly related,

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Speaker 1: but I I sometimes like to watch on YouTube like

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Speaker 1: reels of like Whoopie Goldberg and Megan McCain Like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's like so many compilations of fights from the view,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, and I'm like, you know what, they cover

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Speaker 1: some real ship on this show. You know, of course

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Speaker 1: there's the drama, and there's the petty and there's the

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Speaker 1: definitely um less Megan McCain obviously, no, no, no Megan

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Speaker 1: We're not just like news news, news theory, theory theory,

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Speaker 1: we want some cheeseman, we want some drama, you know,

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Speaker 1: like it doesn't have to be lookupistemologies every single episode.

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Speaker 1: So today's episode is our Pride episode. Although Pride is

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Speaker 1: you know, fitting never actually done like a Pride month episode.

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Speaker 1: girl lad female lad shows and movies and and you know,

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of media just with like girls,

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Speaker 1: you know, being main characters and obviously loving all of

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Speaker 1: that because girl power and stuff, but also loving it

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Speaker 1: because they were hot and cute and I loved them,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So anywhere from like Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is random, but remember as told by Ginger, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if I loved Ginger, that is so cute. But also

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Speaker 1: like you know, um, Lilo and Stitch, Lilo's sister, Yes,

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Speaker 1: what's her name? I think, so so hot, so fine.

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Speaker 1: I had not thought about that, but you're right Atlantis, Atlantis, Yes,

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Speaker 1: the woman beautiful, yes, whoever she whatever her name was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's it's gonna be a lot of cartoons

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Speaker 1: to begin with, okay, but also I mean, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I loved who else did I love? Well?

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Speaker 1: They were also I feel like there was also like

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Speaker 1: you know, I grew up also watching like The Bird

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Speaker 1: Cage and like Too Wong Food and so not just

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Speaker 1: like queer icons that I had crushes on, but like

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Speaker 1: also like I was watching and enjoying like queer movies

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Speaker 1: you know, um with my mom, and also watching like

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Speaker 1: Turner classic movies. There's like you know, so that was

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Speaker 1: also fun for me. I enjoyed that. So I knew

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Speaker 1: that I had an appreciation for queerness as far as like, okay,

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Speaker 1: the movies, the drag, the storylines, like everything is wonderful,

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Speaker 1: you know um. But then I think it wasn't until

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Speaker 1: later that I was like, oh, but I also I

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Speaker 1: am queer because I also don't just like these girls

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Speaker 1: and these women like I think they're like awesome and

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Speaker 1: I want to date them, you know what I mean? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say that that was my Yeah. I think

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Speaker 1: being a queer woman is like a constant question of

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Speaker 1: like do I want to be you or do I

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Speaker 1: want to date you? You know, And I constantly, well

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Speaker 1: not constantly, but I have found myself asking myself that,

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Speaker 1: you know, over the years, like can I try it

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Speaker 1: to this person or do I want to be them?

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Speaker 1: You know, um, because sometimes there's there's something that captivates

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Speaker 1: you right about someone, um, and so you're asking yourself

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Speaker 1: that question exactly. Miranda from Lizzie McGuire. Do I just

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Speaker 1: really relate to Miranda? Or do I think Miranda is

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Speaker 1: like so cute and cool? And do I want to

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Speaker 1: hold her hand? You know what I mean? I can't tell. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Speaking of cartoons, um Megra from Hercules, Yes, she was

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Speaker 1: a battie. She was a battie. She was a battye.

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Speaker 1: She was a batty. Also in um Uh is it

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Speaker 1: the Emperor's New Groove, there's like a really cute character

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Speaker 1: who wears like she has long hair, she has bangs, like,

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Speaker 1: there's like a cute little two piece outfit, real hervy.

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Speaker 1: It's a South American cartoon. Is that the ambers New Groove?

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Speaker 1: Or is that Atlantis? Are they both in the same movie?

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Speaker 1: The Girl in the Blue who's from the from Atlantis?

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Speaker 1: And then there's like no, no, no. In Atlantis, there

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Speaker 1: was another cute one who was like the sassy latina,

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Speaker 1: but she wore a little hat, she had short hair.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, yes, she was like an engineer. She

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Speaker 1: was also hot. She was also super cute. Also loved her.

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Speaker 1: So there was so many No, but I think I

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Speaker 1: want to say, if it's not the Emperor, the Road

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Speaker 1: to Eldorado, she was. That's the one I was thinking,

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Speaker 1: the road who had got it? Got it? She had

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Speaker 1: the blump things that she had, her cute little like

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Speaker 1: she had like a two piece. Yes, yes, let's see

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Speaker 1: all these cartoon girls, these hotties. I end up. I

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Speaker 1: ended up. I end up emulating them. I think in

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Speaker 1: my in my style and how I dress. So it

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Speaker 1: goes back to do I want to beat them or

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Speaker 1: do I want to date them? Became them, but I

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Speaker 1: still want to date them both. Yes, I want to

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Speaker 1: date myself. When people ask me what's your type, I

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Speaker 1: say bad bitches. I'm like girls, I look like me.

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Speaker 1: It was so funny because somebody was like, so, when

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Speaker 1: are you and MoMA going to start dating? And my

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Speaker 1: response was no, I'm too small for MoMA. Friends were

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Speaker 1: business partners. She's my home or is my sister? No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not her dying. That's very funny, right, I will

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Speaker 1: say this. Yeah, I know, you're right. We are a

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Speaker 1: purely platonic friendship. We just truly are we just truly

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Speaker 1: as much as people want to make it happen, it's

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Speaker 1: not going to happen. It's not the case. Yeah, it's not.

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Speaker 1: But we will live in the fantasy. Yes, we will

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Speaker 1: will deliver the fantasy. Because we're artists. We can deliver

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Speaker 1: a fantasy. You know, we know what you guys are thinking.

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Speaker 1: We know what you guys, and we know you don't

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Speaker 1: think we know. Yes, it's true, we do know. We

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Speaker 1: do know. Well everybody. On that note, we just want

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Speaker 1: to remind you support your favorite queer trends q POC

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Speaker 1: creators all year round, not just Pride Month. And remember

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Speaker 1: that Pride started as a political uprising in nineteen nine

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Speaker 1: UM and it was a resistance. It was an act

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Speaker 1: of resistance. And so you know, just it's important that

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Speaker 1: we remember our history, our queer history, and that we're

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Speaker 1: rooted in that, and we also archive what we're doing,

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Speaker 1: our work, because while we have lost a lot of

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Speaker 1: our queer ancestors for many different reasons, one being the

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Speaker 1: AIDS pandemic now endemic. There was things have gotten lost

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Speaker 1: and so it's really important that we archive, that we document,

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Speaker 1: and that we show people that we were here and

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Speaker 1: they're queer elders exist. You know. Also one of the

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Speaker 1: mind folks Mismade her. She was a prominent activists of

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Speaker 1: that time as well, and she recently had a baby.

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Speaker 1: She's like with her partner, and she's in her late

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Speaker 1: seventies and she's like literally walking history. So like, remember

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Speaker 1: to uplift queer transfolks all year round and also pay

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Speaker 1: respect to your elder as they've been doing it for

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Speaker 1: a lot longer than we have and that a lot

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Speaker 1: of us have. So on that note, happy Pride month,

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Speaker 1: Let's do the ship all year round. Yes, happy Pride

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Speaker 1: and even I don't know if if Bambi se say

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Speaker 1: though identifies as an elder, if she would be mad

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Speaker 1: if we labeled her that. But I think that she's

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Speaker 1: a queer elder. You know, there's a lot, there's quite

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Speaker 1: a few who are very and who are and who

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Speaker 1: are very active and like online, who are are you know,

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Speaker 1: out there invisible maybe like a contemporary like I think

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Speaker 1: of Raquel Willis as like a contemporary like activists, she is,

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Speaker 1: like she someone I see as will be an elder

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Speaker 1: you know, Um, yeah, I think of Janet Mark Liver,

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Speaker 1: our dear friend cast of Pose, the cast post, I

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Speaker 1: mean our dear friends at the Gumaton Collective. Now that

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Speaker 1: we're talking about peers and contemporaries, you know, all the

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Speaker 1: folks at Theatone Collective and m We've had Julio Slado

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. We will have DJ Sizzle Fantastic on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. We actually, Surprise Surprise, just wrapped up an

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Speaker 1: interview with Sizzle, so you can expect to hear that

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Speaker 1: in the coming weeks. Um. Yeah, just go through the

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Speaker 1: look at the canon and you will find all of

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Speaker 1: our contemporaries. Yes, um, there are some queer elders that

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Speaker 1: I've been wanting to interview for a while now, and

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Speaker 1: so you know, hopefully that's something we can work on

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Speaker 1: this season, if not for its own project as well,

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Speaker 1: because documentation archival work is really important to us, and

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Speaker 1: that's that's one way that we can make sure that

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Speaker 1: Fox remember we were here. Yeah. Oh, Bay Davis recently

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Speaker 1: had to write up in the l like a front pager.

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Speaker 1: It looks like with the Mongus picture. Shout out by Davis,

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Speaker 1: shout out by Davis who is glowing and killing it

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Speaker 1: all over the place. So yeah, it's been you know,

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Speaker 1: it's been a weird Pride month just because of what's

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Speaker 1: going on in the world and globally. Um, there's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of interesting chatter about Pride month online and

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Speaker 1: about Kink and King get Pride and pride Speaking of

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Speaker 1: King community, and you need to put respect on their names. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: where would we be without kink? Where would I be

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Speaker 1: without King? We love King, We are kinky, you know

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Speaker 1: what you mean? So I mean something that I learned

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Speaker 1: this month because of this conversation of no King at

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Speaker 1: that did a lot of the caregiving for folks that

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Speaker 1: we're living with HIV and AIDS. So not only they

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Speaker 1: do they deserve respect, but they are literally fundament That

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Speaker 1: community specifically is like fundamental and an important integral part

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Speaker 1: to queer history, like start what's your basics? Like everybody's

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Speaker 1: got to learn somewhere, um, but just remember where we've

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Speaker 1: going facts, facts, facts, sex, especially as we see history

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Speaker 1: really does repeat itself, and especially when it comes to

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Speaker 1: things like policy and human rights, because at any given moment,

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Speaker 1: they and you know that they, you know who the

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Speaker 1: they is, they are actively constantly trying to dismantle and

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Speaker 1: undo all of our civil rights, um and bodily autonomy

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Speaker 1: and ownership of ourselves and our decisions as women, as

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Speaker 1: Latin X people, as queer people, as people of color,

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Speaker 1: all of the above, the whole thing, right, So just

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Speaker 1: as people, and if we know like how it's worked

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Speaker 1: before and why we're at where we're at, we can

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Speaker 1: also like see the signs and see when they're doing

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Speaker 1: it again and see when they're they're actively trying to

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Speaker 1: function up even more than it already is. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys for listening. This has been a lovely,

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