Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host
Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology,
Speaker 1: and today on the show Camels, it's just one hundred
Speaker 1: percent camels, one hundred percent of the time every species
Speaker 1: of camel discussed on this podcast.
Speaker 2: I realized that.
Speaker 1: I've never really talked about camels on the podcast, and
Speaker 1: I had to fix that issue. It was an oversight.
Speaker 1: I apologize. I apologize to camels. I apologize to people
Speaker 1: who love camels, and I Yet, camels are fascinating. They
Speaker 1: are so much more than you might expect. They have
Speaker 1: ridiculous evolutionary traits, incredible adaptations from inside out, from the
Speaker 1: tiniest cells and their bodies to those big old humps
Speaker 1: you know and love and spoilers. That hump is not
Speaker 1: filled with water, but something else. Discover this and more
Speaker 1: as we answer the age old question, is that a
Speaker 1: flesh balloon coming out of your mouth? Or are you
Speaker 1: just happy to see me? Joining me today is producer
Speaker 1: podcaster Friend of the show, Friend to Camel's Bridge at Greenberg.
Speaker 3: Welcome, Hey, best friend to camels, tell other big dumb faces.
Speaker 3: So excited you got the dumbest faces.
Speaker 2: They do.
Speaker 1: They have the sweetest, dumbest faces.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I love them so just like you look at them
Speaker 1: from any angle, really, from that amazing poudy lips, those
Speaker 1: big bug eyes, it's such a and then those luscious eyelashes.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they have beautiful eyelashes. And they are constantly
Speaker 3: chewing nothing. It seems like every time I've seen one,
Speaker 3: it's like chewing.
Speaker 2: They're cut.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, they just like chewing a circle motion. It's
Speaker 3: staring with their weird eyes. I was traveling in Israel
Speaker 3: once and we were on like a tour bus and
Speaker 3: I fell asleep and I woke up.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know, you woke up next to
Speaker 2: a camel.
Speaker 1: I've heard this story a million times.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I meane it happens. They're very seductive. The eyelashes.
Speaker 2: Uh no.
Speaker 3: I like woke up on the store of Us and
Speaker 3: I like look out into the distance and I swear
Speaker 3: to God, I saw a camel with a fez on
Speaker 3: just wandering the desert.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if it's true.
Speaker 3: It was like I don't know if it like escaped somewhere,
Speaker 3: but I was wearing a fez and it was just
Speaker 3: a lone camel out in the desert.
Speaker 2: Camels I enjoy fashion as well.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, no one else said they saw it,
Speaker 3: but I I swear he was wearing.
Speaker 2: A little hat. I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that there is a cryptid now that is
Speaker 1: camel wearing a fez, And yeah, Bridget has seen it
Speaker 1: and swears I seen it shaky.
Speaker 3: Desert at the Middle East and confuses sleepy tourists.
Speaker 2: Oh that's incredible.
Speaker 1: They're everywhere out there, they are, and it's really interesting
Speaker 1: because they are domesticated and they have become much more cosmopolitan,
Speaker 1: much more globally present than they were typically when they
Speaker 1: were wild. Huh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that makes sense because I mean I
Speaker 3: felt bad for the camels, but traveling around I would
Speaker 3: just see them, like at gas stations and be like, hey,
Speaker 3: bet my camel for like five dollars.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, five dollars a pet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one pet, five dollars, that's their pads. Has to
Speaker 3: be hard to keep a camel, I.
Speaker 1: Mean actually, I mean maybe if you're trying to keep
Speaker 1: it in your apartment. But they sure were very well
Speaker 1: suited to domestication. They're more strong willed than say a
Speaker 1: horse or a cow, but they are they were, uh,
Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that they are so hardy and
Speaker 1: so well adapted to extremes made them invaluable in terms
Speaker 1: of being pack animals and animals that we rode on
Speaker 1: and domesticated animals in human history.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess so. They do seem very they they're
Speaker 3: very gentle yea creatures.
Speaker 1: They're gentle, but with a little bit of attitude, which
Speaker 1: I admire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, they have some edge to them
Speaker 2: and you can tell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they stare at you with their expressionless dumb faces,
Speaker 3: just chewing in big old circles.
Speaker 2: You're like, I'm gonna go where I want to go,
Speaker 2: so just sort of a rundown. What is a camel?
Speaker 1: A camel is an even toed ungulate like deer, sheep, bison.
Speaker 1: They're actually distantly related to whales and dolphins, which also
Speaker 1: descended from whose land animals. But yeah, they're basically they're
Speaker 1: even toad ungulates, So they're similar to antelope, deer sheep pigs.
Speaker 3: Is that what the is? Are we gonna find out?
Speaker 3: The hump is a fin is essentially a fin.
Speaker 1: I like that sand whales they're called sand dolphins.
Speaker 2: Sand dolphins, I love that for them.
Speaker 1: So camels have an interesting evolutionary history. The oldest known camel, Protolopus,
Speaker 1: lived around fifty million years ago and was about as
Speaker 1: big as a medium sized dog, So not very big,
Speaker 1: little tiny miniature camel.
Speaker 3: Cute, let's bring that back. That feels more like the
Speaker 3: apartment camel.
Speaker 2: I know, lap camel.
Speaker 1: Oh, I would love a dream little lap camel and
Speaker 1: pettit have a spit spitout courtesans.
Speaker 2: That I don't like. Yeah, the spit is griss.
Speaker 1: So we don't necessarily know if these early ancestors of
Speaker 1: camel's actually had a hump or not. We don't have
Speaker 1: the soft tissue evidence, but they were found in North America.
Speaker 1: In fact, camels lived in North America until around fifteen
Speaker 1: thousand years ago, when they went ex dinked along with
Speaker 1: other megafauna, probably because humans came along and just ruined everything,
Speaker 1: as as we tend to like to do.
Speaker 2: They you're back this MegaFon.
Speaker 1: Well no, so these early ancestors of camels went extinct,
Speaker 1: but the other species of camels evolved and moved across
Speaker 1: the globe and became their own thing.
Speaker 2: So that's why we got big camels.
Speaker 1: I mean, the some of the camels that lived in
Speaker 1: North America were quite big, actually a little taller than
Speaker 1: modern day camels. May or may not have had a hump,
Speaker 1: but they did. They went extinct, while the other camels
Speaker 1: that migrated over to northern African Asia actually ended up
Speaker 1: surviving until modern times after going through a little bit
Speaker 1: of human mettaling. So interestinglys were not always adapted solely
Speaker 1: for hot climates, nor are they solely found in hot
Speaker 1: climates even today, which we'll talk.
Speaker 2: A little bit about later.
Speaker 1: But first thing to know is that there are three
Speaker 1: species of camel still alive today, which I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people just think there's like is camel, Every
Speaker 1: camel is just camel. There are three types of camel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because, yeah, you said three types of species,
Speaker 3: and I did think camel's just camel, and then I
Speaker 3: also at the same time thought that seems low.
Speaker 1: But so there is the dromedary camel, which is probably
Speaker 1: the camel you're thinking of right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that looks like camel, camel.
Speaker 1: Camel camel, sort of your camel classic, which is actually
Speaker 1: a little deceptive because there is the bactory and camel,
Speaker 1: which is probably actually an older species of camel, and
Speaker 1: the wild bactory and camel. So we are going to
Speaker 1: talk about the Bactrian and the wild Bactrian, who are
Speaker 1: fascinating camels. But first we're gonna talk about the good
Speaker 1: old Dromedary camel, the one we know and love, which
Speaker 1: is also incredibly incredibly interesting. So the Dromedary is the
Speaker 1: most common camel. It is your stereotypical, prototypical, archetypical, all
Speaker 1: the typicals camel.
Speaker 4: They're the ones that wear the fezes. They're exactly camel. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but so handsome, very handsome. And it is a domesticated animal.
Speaker 4: It is not a wild animal. They are all domesticated
Speaker 4: and it has not been wild for at least two
Speaker 4: thousand years.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's you know, essentially like a horse or
Speaker 1: a cow, it is domesticated.
Speaker 3: I remember seeing like I've seen wild horses and I
Speaker 3: are like my mind was kind of blown.
Speaker 2: Like they just exist.
Speaker 3: But uh, that's saying I thought camels were just you know,
Speaker 3: throwing in the woods making more camels or the desert.
Speaker 2: Well they can be.
Speaker 1: So there are feral camels. In fact, a lot of
Speaker 1: feral camels.
Speaker 2: That's fact we'll talk about. Actually, I don't like that.
Speaker 2: I don't like that. Actually that's very scary.
Speaker 1: We will talk about some of these feral camels.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And while they're maybe not scary to humans, there are
Speaker 1: some problems with feral camels. So there are big populations
Speaker 1: of feral camels, but they are technically feral versions of
Speaker 1: the domesticated camel. So just kind of a short description
Speaker 1: of the dromedary camel. They have one hump, always one hump.
Speaker 1: They have short but shaggy fur, a long curved neck,
Speaker 1: and absolutely gorgeous maybe the line maybe it's maybe line.
Speaker 1: Maybe she's born with it. Eyelashes and they are born
Speaker 1: with it. They are born with it. I mean, just
Speaker 1: such thick.
Speaker 2: They're stunning. Yeah, they could fan your face with their eyelashes.
Speaker 1: It's stunning.
Speaker 2: It's a look. And I'm jealous, frankly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're they're dumb seductive faces.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't get around it. Those camels are hot.
Speaker 1: They have they do have vogue faces. They know how
Speaker 1: to have that sort of unfocused, glazed look in their eye.
Speaker 1: They flutter their eyelashes and pout with their lips. They're Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're very very vogue.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They they look like they want you to pet them,
Speaker 3: but they do not.
Speaker 2: They will spit at you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Actually that spit is not spit, but a mixture
Speaker 1: of saliva and regurgitate. Regurgitate, regurgitate, regurgita.
Speaker 3: That makes sense, it does, Yeah, because that's not I've
Speaker 3: seen the spit and it's not. It looks it looks
Speaker 3: like they have a virus sal at the time or something. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's it's pretty gross.
Speaker 1: It's throw up. It's a little bit of throw up.
Speaker 1: They regurgitate and will shoot it at you. And this
Speaker 1: is a defensive tactic that they use. Yeah, it used
Speaker 1: to be against predators, but they will also do it
Speaker 1: if they're just pissed off at you, a human.
Speaker 3: They are very sassy creatures too. They always they they
Speaker 3: do seem a bit pissed a lot. Yeah, it you know,
Speaker 3: it adds up. I do like that as that feels
Speaker 3: like the kind of defensive tactic that someone like me
Speaker 3: would have, is that I just throw up at you.
Speaker 3: I like that as a superpower as someone with stomach issues.
Speaker 3: I enjoy that as a superpower of just you.
Speaker 1: I did when I was in elementary school, like get
Speaker 1: sick during a choir practice, and I did, on accident
Speaker 1: throw up on the front row, including a girl.
Speaker 2: I didn't really like. So perfect, I was right exactly,
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: It was actually why we're while we were seeing a
Speaker 1: dough dear, do re me fasse latti and then at
Speaker 1: the like do re me fa so latti? Barf everywhere
Speaker 1: on the front row, but especially I really didn't like.
Speaker 2: So good, good job, thank you?
Speaker 1: Uh that man, such a memorable birthday, A.
Speaker 2: Lot of cake.
Speaker 1: So I I really do feel for the camels because
Speaker 1: I it's like I really embodied the camel.
Speaker 2: This day, the camel spirit.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, the power of the camel. Today on my birthday,
Speaker 1: I shall exhibit the power of the camel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so uh.
Speaker 1: Wild camel fur is typically that lovely tan color. It
Speaker 1: can range from black to white and in very rare
Speaker 1: cases actually piebald, meaning a splotchy mix of black and
Speaker 1: white fur. So yeah, designer camels. So I don't think
Speaker 1: it's the thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I assume, yeah, I assume. If you're
Speaker 3: breeding camels, you know you get.
Speaker 1: The designer camel. Well, I got some coats. No, I
Speaker 1: just want the animal designer camel. No, I'm still getting coats.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to assume maybe there are designer camels,
Speaker 1: but maybe they're also just wearing designer coats.
Speaker 3: I like that better. Yeah, it's a it's a coat
Speaker 3: for a camel. It's not a coat made out of
Speaker 3: a camel, don't worry.
Speaker 1: So uh, I mean it could be a coat made
Speaker 1: out of the camel's wool, not like, you don't necessarily
Speaker 1: have to kill the camel right to get camel wool,
Speaker 1: which is you know, nice, I guess.
Speaker 2: Which is good? Good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the wild ancestors of dromedaries adapted to intense desert regions,
Speaker 1: which is actually probably why they were domesticated because they
Speaker 1: are so gosh darn hardy.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: These original drumedary camels would live in the Sahara and
Speaker 1: was able to withstand in tense conditions in the desert.
Speaker 1: So this was a huge boon for people who lived
Speaker 1: in the desert regions because they could be used as
Speaker 1: pack animals transportation. They could even be used for their milk,
Speaker 1: their wool, and also their meat.
Speaker 3: So uh.
Speaker 2: They've also been used for plowing fields I.
Speaker 1: Mean like they were really really useful for people who
Speaker 1: lived in these desert regions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. They kind of like.
Speaker 3: They feel like the cows of that area, Like if
Speaker 3: you let them loose on a field, they're gonna just
Speaker 3: eat the day away.
Speaker 1: I mean they're kind of they're like really metal versions
Speaker 1: of cows. Uh and like yeah, and just kind of
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's they're they're like a utility ungula
Speaker 1: because there's so many different things that they can do.
Speaker 2: You know, hanging things off those humps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would in an apocalyptic environment, I
Speaker 1: would rather have a camel than a horse.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: They they definitely seem more party and less high maintenance, yes,
Speaker 3: than those damn horses.
Speaker 2: But it is Have you have you ever ridden a cam?
Speaker 2: I have not.
Speaker 1: I imagine it's extremely comfortable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did one of those. It is crazy getting up.
Speaker 3: Oh really, what I'm It's what I imagined like a
Speaker 3: hydraulic car to be like.
Speaker 1: Because the camel actually doesn't. The camel lie down and
Speaker 1: then you get on it and then.
Speaker 3: You lie yeah yeah, and they stand up like one
Speaker 3: leg at a time. So it's just in the very
Speaker 3: long legs on that camel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a hold on.
Speaker 3: You got Yeah, so it's just like one at a time,
Speaker 3: kind of like shifting you a good like.
Speaker 2: Seven eight feet in the air. Yeah, like.
Speaker 1: Noises.
Speaker 3: Yeah, horse is a little not that a horse ride
Speaker 3: is comfortable, but I would recommend it more. They also,
Speaker 3: you know, the backspace is it's mostly humped back there,
Speaker 3: so you have not a you don't really have a
Speaker 3: lot of rooms.
Speaker 1: Right right, not much lumbar support. No camel how dare
Speaker 1: they not be designed with the lumbars some one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: these animals, these living creatures.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it turns out they weren't made just for me
Speaker 3: to ride them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: If they were, they'd definitely come with sort of like
Speaker 1: cup holders and seatbuilts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: They should be a little more organomical and probably a
Speaker 3: little less stubborn. The camel I was on did not
Speaker 3: want to go in the direction of all the other camels.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got they've got free None of them did, Yeah,
Speaker 4: none of none of the camels.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like particular to me, like we were.
Speaker 3: Yeah, none of the camels seemed interested in going the
Speaker 3: direction that the ride was.
Speaker 2: The camel ride was designed for.
Speaker 1: Like, they got their own stuff going on. Maybe they know, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're going to DJ that night, you don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got they got appointments, they they.
Speaker 1: They got stuff going on. Yeah, their social calendar is full,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. They didn't get to put on all that mascara
Speaker 2: for nothing.
Speaker 1: So the drummedary camel still lives in hotter arid regions
Speaker 1: like the Sahara Desert, but domestication has distributed them all
Speaker 1: across Africa, Asia, the Persian Gulf, and they were even
Speaker 1: brought to Australia in the mid eighteen hundreds, which, like
Speaker 1: many animals that were imported to Australia, was a terrible
Speaker 1: decision because now there are over a million feral camels
Speaker 1: wandering and ransacking the Australian bush.
Speaker 3: No that is yeah, yeah, don't bring animals to places
Speaker 3: where animals.
Speaker 2: Don't go, especially Australia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they they're full of yeah, non native species,
Speaker 3: they're they're closed off that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't like animal as big as a camel. The
Speaker 3: idea of that being feral I can handle, but like
Speaker 3: that's too big to be feral.
Speaker 2: That's scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, mittens and it's just like a herd
Speaker 1: of angry camera.
Speaker 2: Heard of camels.
Speaker 3: I don't like that that yeah, there, I don't like
Speaker 3: they're gentle and they have a big, dumb, flat teeth.
Speaker 2: But uh, they're very big.
Speaker 1: They're very there's a that's a lot of sas to
Speaker 1: have in a feral population of camel.
Speaker 3: It's funny because I cannot see them being like a camel.
Speaker 3: Camel aggression to me is very just sass.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean they do like do you spit
Speaker 1: as we've talked about, or you know, the regurgitating weaponized regurgitating.
Speaker 2: They also do.
Speaker 1: They will bite, I mean if they feel.
Speaker 2: Like they have to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like all their defenses are kind of
Speaker 3: like I mean, I'm sure the bite is hard, but
Speaker 3: it's not gonna like tear you apart, like a camel's
Speaker 3: not gonna eat you.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what they want you to think though.
Speaker 3: That's what they want you to think. Yeah, they're there.
Speaker 3: Their teeth are weird.
Speaker 1: Although they might eat you if you are already dead,
Speaker 1: which I talk about we'll talk about a little bit
Speaker 1: more later. But yeah, these feral camels are actually a
Speaker 1: significant problem because they are devastating to the native plant
Speaker 1: populations and they cause erosion with all their stomping with
Speaker 1: those big, flat, floppy feet of theirs. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's a real testament to the camel's hearty adaptations
Speaker 1: that they have become such a in Australia because they
Speaker 1: can just kind of dominate because they're so they have
Speaker 1: so many incredible adaptations to be able to survive in
Speaker 1: extreme conditions that when you PLoP them in Australia, they're like,
Speaker 1: we can, we can, Yeah, we'll take it.
Speaker 2: We can do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah looks nice. Well yeah, fire, tornadoes, we got it.
Speaker 2: We don't care.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I have to imagine they just eat
Speaker 3: constantly too, like if they're not just well.
Speaker 2: It's down or Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because they will eat when they have the
Speaker 1: opportunity to, but they do. They are able to withstand
Speaker 1: incredibly inhospitable conditions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they can last for quite a.
Speaker 1: While without eating, without drinking, and it is stunning what
Speaker 1: they are able to endure. But we are going to
Speaker 1: take a quick break and when we get back, we
Speaker 1: are going to talk about how the camel is one
Speaker 1: of the most extreme, most hardy large mammals in the world.
Speaker 1: Ridget you're ready to talk about how much camel's rule.
Speaker 2: Hell, yeah, that's why I'm here, baby, they're.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I often like to talk about lesser
Speaker 1: known animals on the show, sort of the animals you
Speaker 1: don't you know, aren't aren't one of the big animals
Speaker 1: that we kind of talk about all the time. But
Speaker 1: camels are really interesting because they are Everyone knows that
Speaker 1: they're really hardy. They can survive without water. But I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of misconceptions about how they do this,
Speaker 1: and it's actually incredibly impressive what they are capable of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I I know this is wrong.
Speaker 3: I've always seen it was hump based why they are
Speaker 3: able to survive. I'm sure the hump has something to
Speaker 3: do with it. But you know, yes, they're they're hardcore.
Speaker 3: If they can live out, you know, in those deserts, yes,
Speaker 3: and just not drink for days, the exactlyttle more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a little more metal than they look.
Speaker 1: They're very metal, much more metal than that long luxurious
Speaker 1: lashes and actually those eyelashes also being just iconic, do
Speaker 1: serve a very important purpose in terms of keeping their
Speaker 1: eyes protected from sand. Because they live in these places
Speaker 1: where there can be sandstorms, and these really thick long
Speaker 1: lashes act, as you know, essentially like a fence fencing
Speaker 1: or a net that protects their eyes. They also have
Speaker 1: a nictitating membrane, which is you know, like, when have
Speaker 1: you ever seen a sleepy cat where they kind of
Speaker 1: like open.
Speaker 3: Their eyes third. Yeah, it's that third eyelash that goes sideways.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, that third eyelid, the nictitating membrane. Birds also
Speaker 1: have it, and it's like, so that's when cats and
Speaker 1: they're kind of like half awake, they look at you
Speaker 1: and they have this weird, like very silly expression because
Speaker 1: that third eyelid is sort of halfway across their eye. Well,
Speaker 1: camels also have this, and they can also use that
Speaker 1: to protect their eyes from sand. But yeah, so they
Speaker 1: are just incredibly well adapted to dry, desert arid environments
Speaker 1: and can survive extreme water loss. Now, Bridget you mentioned
Speaker 1: like you were thinking like this hump has a lot
Speaker 1: to do with their survival, and that is true, but
Speaker 1: have you had the notion that it has something to
Speaker 1: do with, uh, helping them with hydrating, like storing water,
Speaker 1: preventing water loss or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is what I had always heard, the camelback backpack.
Speaker 3: This is kind of what I assume the uh the
Speaker 3: hump was was essentially just like a big water bladder.
Speaker 3: But I also know that's wrong because it's not like
Speaker 3: if you poke that thing.
Speaker 2: It's not like that.
Speaker 1: It's not a bladder of right, it doesn't slosh around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know that's what I've heard, but I've
Speaker 3: assumed that was wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so it does serve a very important purpose,
Speaker 1: but that is not to keep the camel hydrated. It
Speaker 1: is actually other factors, other evolutionary advantages that the camel has.
Speaker 2: That helps it survive without water.
Speaker 1: So in temperatures of up to one hundred and four
Speaker 1: degrees fahrenheit, they only need to drink water every ten
Speaker 1: to fifteen days, which is, for the record, a lot
Speaker 1: longer than humans can. You'd be very dead. I'd be dead.
Speaker 1: We'd be a pile of bones. Maybe not bones, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but dead, but certainly dead. Certainly dead.
Speaker 2: That sounds like a long time. Yeah. Yes.
Speaker 1: When it does drink, it drinks very heartily. It can
Speaker 1: drink over four gallons or twenty liters a minute and
Speaker 1: can drink around thirty gallons or one hundred and fifteen
Speaker 1: liters in one sitting.
Speaker 2: I that in the the minute.
Speaker 3: That how much you can drink in a minute is
Speaker 3: shocking to Yeah, because I feel like you need a
Speaker 3: hose to do that. So certain like I feel like
Speaker 3: them just lapping up water.
Speaker 2: It's gotta be that. That seems they do that at
Speaker 2: a a quick rate.
Speaker 1: Yes, very powerful mouths, just hoovering up water.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like it would need a tusk to
Speaker 2: drink that much water. But good for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the water is not stored in the humph.
Speaker 1: The hump is actually a fibrous mass of faty tissue
Speaker 1: that is stored and can be metabolized as food for
Speaker 1: the nutrition for the camel if it is unable to
Speaker 1: find food. So it's not really for water, it is
Speaker 1: for nutrition.
Speaker 2: That is handy.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like a backpack full of snacks, except it's
Speaker 1: kind of it's just anya.
Speaker 2: It's just anya.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And this hump can store up to eighty pounds
Speaker 1: or thirty six kilograms of fat. So that is significant.
Speaker 1: That is a significant can't ley adequate source of nutrition
Speaker 1: if they are encountering scarcity?
Speaker 2: Does that hump. I mean, now does it like shrink? Yes,
Speaker 2: they lose yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as they consume it. Yeah, it's kind of deflates. Uh,
Speaker 1: And it's kind of like a sad balloon. But with
Speaker 1: a full hump, they can go several months without food.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yes, for them.
Speaker 1: In terms of the water, how they survive, on how
Speaker 1: they are able to drink a huge amount of water
Speaker 1: and then go so long without having to drink more water,
Speaker 1: it is actually inside of them that is mostly responsible
Speaker 1: for their water preservation in terms of their organs like
Speaker 1: their kidneys, and also as small as their blood cells.
Speaker 1: Their blood cells are actually oval shaped rather than round like.
Speaker 2: Our blood cell.
Speaker 1: Red blood blood cells are kind of like these little
Speaker 1: like doughnuts without a hole in them. Yeah, but uh,
Speaker 1: camel red blood cells are oval shaped, and what that
Speaker 1: allows is for the blood flow to continue even when
Speaker 1: they're severely dehydrated. So they're kind of more streamlined to
Speaker 1: these blood cells, so they can continue to flow through
Speaker 1: the veins even in cases of severe dehydration.
Speaker 2: That is.
Speaker 3: Very thorough evolution. Yes, Uh, that is incredible. Uh that yeah,
Speaker 3: down to the blood cell. It has figured out in
Speaker 3: the desert.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing. I mean, if you want an example
Speaker 1: of how blood cell shape can kind of change based
Speaker 1: on a mutation but then end up being advantageous, you
Speaker 1: only need to look at humans, where people can get
Speaker 1: sickle cell anemia, which is generally speaking not necessarily advantageous,
Speaker 1: but it does make it harder to contract malaria, and
Speaker 1: so the sickle cell anemia actually provides an advantage to
Speaker 1: people who are in areas where there is high malaria risk.
Speaker 1: So you can see how you might have some kind
Speaker 1: of mutation with blood cell shape that may not see mydeal,
Speaker 1: but then in certain situations, in certain environments, it actually
Speaker 1: is a really good mutation.
Speaker 2: Ah, Man, evolution is cool, Ain't it wacky? It's it's
Speaker 2: it's wild that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, your body just figures out how to best survive
Speaker 3: and then forms everybody that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's just like it's but it's just luck, right,
Speaker 1: Like if you're if you're the person, you're just kind
Speaker 1: of born with the mutation, and it's like, oh, actually
Speaker 1: this is pretty good. You just end up surviving and
Speaker 1: end up having babies and passing that onto them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good for these camels and they're lost blood cells.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Camels can also voluntarily close their nostrils, which
Speaker 1: will prevent sand from entering their nostrils and can also
Speaker 1: help them prevent more water loss, like by exhaling out
Speaker 1: of their nostrils in like these very dry, windy conditions.
Speaker 2: How do they breathe?
Speaker 1: Well, it's voluntary, so they they open.
Speaker 2: Up their breath. Yeah, breathe, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like it's sort of like blinking in
Speaker 1: a way, although like voluntary blinking, like if you if
Speaker 1: it's really windy or something, you might kind of blink
Speaker 1: more to keep your eyes more moisturized. It's the same
Speaker 1: thing with this. It's no, it s nose blinking kind of.
Speaker 2: That's I have seen that happen. It is. It's weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of always thought of it as blinking
Speaker 3: that it is like kind of involuntary.
Speaker 2: But that's cool. They're big, dumb nostrils.
Speaker 1: So other adaptations is uh. Another adaptation is that they
Speaker 1: have thick, leathery skin on their feet, knees, and chest
Speaker 1: areas so they can protect themselves from the hot sand
Speaker 1: while walking, kneeling and lying down because they do often
Speaker 1: kind of lie down with their legs tucked under them.
Speaker 1: It's very cute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're they're like they're they're like I I
Speaker 3: think of them as a very like kind of lazy
Speaker 3: animal because I always see them lying down and.
Speaker 1: It, uh, they're efficient. It's it's efficiency.
Speaker 2: It's efficiency.
Speaker 1: Yeah, energy efficiency. Yeah, that's what I call my naps
Speaker 1: energy efficiency.
Speaker 2: Energy efficiency. Yeah. They also just have the sleepiest faces.
Speaker 1: They really do, they really do. And then just like
Speaker 1: that slow chewing it's it's adorable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they always look like the chillip.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And that chewing.
Speaker 1: Actually they are chewing their cuds so they regurgitate this
Speaker 1: quasi digested vegetation back up to chew it some more
Speaker 1: and swallow it again. It's something a lot of ungulates
Speaker 1: will do, a lot of ruminants will do.
Speaker 2: It's pretty gross.
Speaker 1: It's pretty gross. In addition to that, though, they also
Speaker 1: have really thick lips that they can grasp and chew,
Speaker 1: like pull out and chew vegetation. And since the vegetation
Speaker 1: they have to contend with is often thorny and prickly,
Speaker 1: they have really thick lips and insides of their mouth
Speaker 1: so they can chew on it without getting hurt getting scratched.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's why they have a big faces.
Speaker 1: Those paddy lips and those luscious eyelids. Ushes actually serve
Speaker 1: quite a good evolutionary purpose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh yeah, I just like, like, what are you
Speaker 3: chewing on my own vomit?
Speaker 1: Want some spits at you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just keeping it in my mouth in case, just
Speaker 3: in case.
Speaker 1: We do have to talk about their love lives. It's fascinating,
Speaker 1: of course, it's it's I mean, I've.
Speaker 3: Been I've been staring at this picture that you have
Speaker 3: of a camel, uh making love to another camel for
Speaker 3: an inappropriate amount of time.
Speaker 1: It is something that I mean, like without sounding weird,
Speaker 1: it's like kind of fascinating because it was not how
Speaker 1: I pictured them mating. Honestly.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They yeah, they're they're very large and unruly animals. I
Speaker 3: would say. Their body seems unruly. Uh yeah, just a
Speaker 3: lot of long legs and a week hump in a
Speaker 3: long neck.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the physics seem off, it does it does?
Speaker 1: It's they're ungainly and then you see how they mate
Speaker 1: and it's like, I guess, I guess that is kind
Speaker 1: of the only way to do it. So what it
Speaker 1: is is the female is lying down with her legs
Speaker 1: tucked under her, sort of just classic bread loaf camel pose,
Speaker 1: and the male is very awkwardly stretched over her with
Speaker 1: his neck kind of like sticking out, his legs straddling her,
Speaker 1: his front legs straddling her, and then you know, just
Speaker 1: kind of kneeling behind her. And just what's funny to
Speaker 1: me is it looks like so much effort for the
Speaker 1: male and then the female's just like just lying.
Speaker 2: Down, yeah whatever, yeah it uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that male seems stressed, yeah to see the least,
Speaker 3: and she's just like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good for her. But also I.
Speaker 3: Like the body shape that this camel that the male
Speaker 3: has contarted itself to, which is just like a ball
Speaker 3: m with a you remember those skippet things that you
Speaker 3: would tie around your ankle.
Speaker 2: Yes, I had a ball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sort of like that shape, but if the
Speaker 3: ball was like a cannon ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it really.
Speaker 2: It's like, I guess we're just so used.
Speaker 1: To seeing the camel in its normal position with its
Speaker 1: like neck sort of in a sloping U shape, just
Speaker 1: kind of walking around, but when it like stretches its
Speaker 1: neck out and its legs out and it's like little
Speaker 1: pot belly is shoved unceremoniously on its knees.
Speaker 3: Just really yeah, it doesn't. Yeah, I figure it's et
Speaker 3: it's it's it looks like EtuH. It has that long
Speaker 3: neck and then that weird circle body. Yes, it's and
Speaker 3: it's like little squat legs.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: It's not dignified. It's not very dignifia.
Speaker 2: No, uh, it's you know they have to do this
Speaker 2: in public.
Speaker 1: But speaking of undignified, males have a lot of romantic.
Speaker 2: Gestures that they will offer.
Speaker 1: For females to try to attract them, one of which
Speaker 1: is splashing their own urine around their genitals. Well, of course,
Speaker 1: of course, I mean, I mean how that it's camel cologne.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you want that area to spell good. I
Speaker 3: can't feel like I know, they don't. I know, the
Speaker 3: female just kind of like picks it up. But well,
Speaker 3: you don't have to do it on the general littles.
Speaker 3: I'm sniffing down there, but like, where else are you
Speaker 3: going to go? You can't really aim it and might
Speaker 3: as well. I would rather use splash your urine, you
Speaker 3: know where the urine comes from, then on its neck
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 1: Although yeah, like not sort of like the perfume thing
Speaker 1: where you roll a little bit on your.
Speaker 2: Wrists and on your neck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's because I like with animals, you know, with
Speaker 3: wild animals.
Speaker 2: You know, I just assume they're covered in urine. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: it's goodness.
Speaker 3: I don't think they need to do the extra work. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm sure that splashback happens.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's basically water park rules, right, like
Speaker 1: ninety nine is gonna be p You just have to
Speaker 1: accept it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just gotta.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're covered in bte. We didn't need to do
Speaker 3: extra work for it. But you know, if it works,
Speaker 3: who am I to judge?
Speaker 2: Yes, And.
Speaker 1: Speaking of extra work, the males do have another romantic
Speaker 1: gesture to offer the females, and it is inflating a
Speaker 1: sack of flesh inside their mouth, letting it flop out
Speaker 1: the side of their mouth like this big, wet, pink balloon,
Speaker 1: and then sort of pushing air through it such that
Speaker 1: it makes this like rumbling, gurgling, bubbling sound and not Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very hot. It is called the dola. Uh.
Speaker 2: And this is what it sounds like. Oh that is
Speaker 2: not what I was expecting. That sounds like a water cooler.
Speaker 3: Yeah that I'm also I'm looking at this thing that's
Speaker 3: not their tongue.
Speaker 2: No that is you know, I don't want to judge, but.
Speaker 1: Gross, it sounds a little bit judgy actually though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's oh man that it looks like a turd
Speaker 3: coming out of its mouth.
Speaker 1: You're dulla shaming these camels.
Speaker 3: I yeah, I mean, you know, if it if it
Speaker 3: helps them attract mates, good, good for them. I just
Speaker 3: if I saw that, I would not go near that camel.
Speaker 3: You No, No, that doesn't work for me a human,
Speaker 3: But what I know about camel love, I don't like
Speaker 3: that thing. It's just like another what what like? So
Speaker 3: just they can just inflate it, that's just.
Speaker 1: All yeah, when you suck it back in, it's actually
Speaker 1: it's like tissue that's sort of I believe is mean
Speaker 1: out of the same tissue found in.
Speaker 2: Like our soft palette.
Speaker 1: But it's just kind of like a bunch of flappy
Speaker 1: tissue that's inflatable that they can stick out the side
Speaker 1: of their mouth.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Cool.
Speaker 3: I guess if it works for you, it works for you.
Speaker 3: For me, it freaks me out a little bit.
Speaker 2: But uh, I think it's personally for me. I like
Speaker 2: the thought.
Speaker 1: I think it's a nice thought, it's considerate.
Speaker 2: It's a nice yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, check out this flappy gum. It's it's like
Speaker 3: when you're like double jointed or something and you're like,
Speaker 3: check this out.
Speaker 2: Uh, I guess it's.
Speaker 1: A There was a guy who in my high school
Speaker 1: would flirt with girls by showing how he can like
Speaker 1: control his salivary glands under his tongue and like squirt
Speaker 1: the saliva out shoot it out, which uh you know, not.
Speaker 3: You know, not unsimilar to a camel, but uh yeah,
Speaker 3: not the best move. Yeah, human, But you know.
Speaker 1: I don't remember if you ever got got someone to
Speaker 1: go to the problem with them using that technique, but
Speaker 1: you know, using that spitting yeah, uh yeah.
Speaker 2: That thing is uh yeah. It looks like a big
Speaker 2: gross balloon tongue hanging out of its mouth.
Speaker 1: Don't forget wet also wet, big gross balloon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems very vulnerable to just like hang that
Speaker 3: out of your.
Speaker 1: Mouth, right, That's what I'm saying, though, it's like showing vulnerability.
Speaker 1: Is there anything sexier than showing vulnerability?
Speaker 3: That's that's true, because it feels like, you know, you
Speaker 3: don't want to get sand in that, you got to
Speaker 3: put it back in your mouth and that that's that's true,
Speaker 3: but you know, uh it just yeah, it does seem
Speaker 3: very just like, here's this soft, weird, fleshy thing that
Speaker 3: lives in my mouth and uh, it's for you now?
Speaker 1: Is that so different from human kissing?
Speaker 2: I guess not. I guess not. H I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: I mention, here's this soft, weird, fleshy thing that lives
Speaker 1: in my mouth.
Speaker 2: It's for you now, it's for you. Now here take it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try that on my husband.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just here. Uh uh yeah.
Speaker 3: I guess what we do is weirder because I assume
Speaker 3: the female doesn't put that in her mouth too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not. So there you go.
Speaker 1: Camels less disgusting than humans.
Speaker 2: But that's what we've figured out here.
Speaker 1: Good for camels, Good for camels. Bridget I promise that
Speaker 1: we would talk about factory and camels, and now here.
Speaker 2: We are gonna talk about. Here we go.
Speaker 1: So Bactrian camels may not be what you imagine when
Speaker 1: you think about a camel, or I mean, maybe it is.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know you, but these were
Speaker 1: actually the more of the og camels. There's genetic evidence
Speaker 1: and fetal development of dromedary camels suggests that they probably
Speaker 1: evolved from the Bactrian camels wild ancestors, rather than the
Speaker 1: bactrine camels evolving from dromedary like camels. So bactrine camels
Speaker 1: today are domesticated, just like the dromedaries. There is a
Speaker 1: species known as the wild Bactrian camel, but this is
Speaker 1: actually not like a wild version or a feral version
Speaker 1: of the domesticated bactrine camel. It is a relative of
Speaker 1: the Bactrian camel that diverged evolutionarily over a million years ago.
Speaker 1: So we will talk about the wild Bactrian camel in
Speaker 1: a bit. They are amazing, but first let's talk about
Speaker 1: the Bactriane camel, the domesticated Bactrian camel. So, domesticated Bactriane
Speaker 1: camels are not just adapted for the heat, but for
Speaker 1: extreme cold. So even though camels are known for living
Speaker 1: in hot climates, camel ancestors actually adapted to climates such
Speaker 1: as the cold extreme cold temperatures, and the bactriane camel
Speaker 1: today still has to contend with the extreme cold. So
Speaker 1: the Bactrian camel is native to the steps of Central Asia,
Speaker 1: which are flat grasslands at a high altitude. So Bactrian
Speaker 1: camels do have similar adaptations to the Dromedary camels in
Speaker 1: terms of surviving drought and starvation. They actually have a
Speaker 1: humps instead of one hump, but the humps serve the
Speaker 1: same purpose as the Dromedary camels. They store fat, but
Speaker 1: they also tend to be taller. The humps tend to
Speaker 1: be taller than the Dromedaries, and when they are low
Speaker 1: on fat, that makes them flop over to one side.
Speaker 1: So when the bac trein is kind of like using
Speaker 1: some of the fat stores, these these humps flop over, oh,
Speaker 1: floppy humps. Floppy humps. And actually, something that I didn't
Speaker 1: mention with the Dromedary but is true of them as
Speaker 1: well as it is true with the Bactraine camels, is
Speaker 1: that they have another trick.
Speaker 2: Up their sleeve.
Speaker 1: If they are really running out of food, they will
Speaker 1: no longer. They will not just restrict themselves to vegetation.
Speaker 1: They will eat bones. So they will eat the bones
Speaker 1: or even the kind of like leathery flesh from mummified
Speaker 1: or decaying carcasses. And they have even been known to
Speaker 1: eat tints and rope when they are desperate enough all.
Speaker 3: That, but that can't provide anything. I mean bone certainly.
Speaker 3: I guess they're eating like marrow essentially. Yeah, all buddies
Speaker 3: don't eat the rope. Rope won't help you. I like
Speaker 3: these guys. They're yeah, they're they're short. They got two humps.
Speaker 3: That makes them better than the one hime Carles I
Speaker 3: cause a camel war, but uh yeah, objectively.
Speaker 2: This is like a sneech.
Speaker 1: Is a situation, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't I don't want to start this amongst camels,
Speaker 3: but it kind of seems objective to me that, uh,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Two humps yeah, or they're taller, yeah, the bigger on
Speaker 2: a smaller yeah, on a smaller camel, Yeah, bigger humps.
Speaker 2: And they fluffy.
Speaker 1: They are massively man possively fluffy.
Speaker 2: So yeah, this one looks like it has two tails.
Speaker 2: It's well, it's interesting. So they are.
Speaker 1: They have a very thick furry coat in the winter
Speaker 1: that is just completely poofy, like so fluffy. I'm talking like,
Speaker 1: you know, just bison levels of total fluff. Like beyond that,
Speaker 1: they're like I like it, Yeah, I like its chest fluff.
Speaker 1: They have so much fluff and I mean I just
Speaker 1: kind of want to like hug one of these things
Speaker 1: and get.
Speaker 2: Lost in get in there. Yeah, it is so fluffy.
Speaker 1: It actually will shed this winter coat in the summer,
Speaker 1: spring and summer, and it will fall off in these huge,
Speaker 1: messy clumps. And it looks like a toddler took a
Speaker 1: pair of a razor to this poor camel and just
Speaker 1: started going to town.
Speaker 2: But it looks like that camel's going through or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, or like the camel's just kind of like
Speaker 1: decaying or something. But it's totally natural. It's just that
Speaker 1: this coat has to come off, and it comes off
Speaker 1: really rapidly, so it comes off in these huge chunks.
Speaker 1: That makes it look like it had an incredibly bad
Speaker 1: day at a barber's.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that.
Speaker 3: In this picture it seems to be like middle then
Speaker 3: top than bottom, so it still has all that like
Speaker 3: proud chest fluff. But uh, the top is a is
Speaker 3: a mess, yeah, and the middle is patchy at best.
Speaker 3: What I'm also confused about it is this camel seems
Speaker 3: to be outside a house, and therefore I assume is
Speaker 3: taken care of by the people who live in that house.
Speaker 3: Can't they just shave that camel.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's but this is natural for the cameras,
Speaker 1: it's gonna do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna do it regardless. I would.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not probably bothering them.
Speaker 3: Yeahah, I wonder if I guess they don't, because, like
Speaker 3: you know, when you give a dog a haircut and
Speaker 3: they can get embarrassed about it.
Speaker 1: I do have to trick my dog's butt fluffies otherwise
Speaker 1: the poop can get stuck to the butt fluffy right,
Speaker 1: of course, And the amount of treats it takes to
Speaker 1: bribe her to tolerate the butt fluffy haircut is enormous.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I mean I don't know what you're doing
Speaker 2: back there. Yeah.
Speaker 3: If that hair yeah, if that hair just falls fell off,
Speaker 3: I assume, Yeah, it's better just let it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the reason that they are they have to go
Speaker 1: through this incredible change from being like this incredible poofy
Speaker 1: fluffy thing to having a very short coat is that
Speaker 1: they live in an environment that has the most dramatic
Speaker 1: temperature changes of almost anywhere in the world. Because for
Speaker 1: the Steps and the Gobi Desert, it can get down
Speaker 1: to five degrees to negative twenty degrees fahrenheit in the winter,
Speaker 1: which is negative fifteen degrees to negative thirty degrees celsius,
Speaker 1: which is so so cold, and in the summer gets
Speaker 1: up to temperatures of around one hundred degrees fahrenheit or
Speaker 1: over or thirty eight degrees celsius, so goes from being
Speaker 1: just below freezing cold to being boiling blisteringly hot.
Speaker 2: Good for them, you know, to be able to groom
Speaker 2: themselves for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good trait that also, Yeah, I would
Speaker 3: if it was that hot, I'd find a way to
Speaker 3: get anything off my body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd just start peeling my skin off because yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, and they also have adaptations that allow them
Speaker 1: to survive in this really dry winter condition because winters
Speaker 1: can even though like we think some in certain climates
Speaker 1: you think of winters as being maybe kind of wet,
Speaker 1: a lot of rain or something, winter caneaks extremely dry
Speaker 1: the factory and camel can actually eat small amounts of
Speaker 1: snow to stay hydrated, which is not something you should
Speaker 1: do as a human.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess not.
Speaker 1: No, you should not.
Speaker 2: If you guess if it's on the ground, if it
Speaker 2: came from the sky, no.
Speaker 1: You should not. You shouldn't eat even fresh snow for hydration,
Speaker 1: because you're actually gonna dehydrate yourself more. It takes more
Speaker 1: moisture for you to process that really cold cold snow,
Speaker 1: and your body essentially has to like melt it so
Speaker 1: that you can process it, and it ends up on
Speaker 1: net causing making your metabolism work harder, and so you
Speaker 1: actually end up loose using water when you eat snow
Speaker 1: like that. So if you are hiking in the snow
Speaker 1: and you're thirsty, do not eat the snow unless you're
Speaker 1: a Bactrian.
Speaker 3: Camel, or you boil that snow. I don't know, or
Speaker 3: you boil the snow Florida. Yeah, from Florida. I live
Speaker 3: in California. Now, I don't have a lot of snow experience, right,
Speaker 3: I don't know what it takes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can. You can catch snowflakes on your tongue.
Speaker 1: That's fine, But don't don't eat snow. If you are
Speaker 1: hiking in you're thirsty. It's not a good situation unless
Speaker 1: you boil it. But the Bactrian camel can eat small
Speaker 1: amounts of snow, it can't go overboard or else it'll
Speaker 1: actually encounter the same problem as humans and other mammals.
Speaker 1: But they are one of the few animals that are
Speaker 1: able to eat snow, and they have efficient enough internal
Speaker 1: thermal regulation to be able to turn the snow into
Speaker 1: something that actually hydrates them. So it is a really
Speaker 1: really useful adaptation for them that we do not possess.
Speaker 2: Good for them, for.
Speaker 3: Them, I mean, you know, maybe live in a nicer climate, camel,
Speaker 3: it will be a lot easier for you.
Speaker 2: But you know, we're making it work, and work camels
Speaker 2: take a break, move to the beach.
Speaker 1: It's like like, well, I'm tired of the cold, Well
Speaker 1: let me move to the desert instead. That was the
Speaker 1: decision they made. Yeah, but they actually were really important
Speaker 1: in human history. The factoring camel their ability to survive
Speaker 1: in incredibly harsh conditions from the extreme heat to the
Speaker 1: extreme cold, allowed humans to use them as pack animals
Speaker 1: along the Silk Road, and without this camel, this trade
Speaker 1: route would probably not have been possible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that I mean makes a lot of sense because
Speaker 3: I feel like I've seen pictures of camels like packed
Speaker 3: up with stuff, and it seems easy for them.
Speaker 2: It seems like they got it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they are they're very they're strong, and
Speaker 1: they they are very they can they travel long distances.
Speaker 1: They're very good at traveling long distances, and they are
Speaker 1: extremely hearty, and they can survive a really long time
Speaker 1: without food or water. So they're amazing as pack animals. Now,
Speaker 1: whether they enjoy it, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if they assume yeah.
Speaker 3: But they can handle it. And I don't think anybody
Speaker 3: enjoys walking that long.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think the humans were having
Speaker 2: a great time either, No, probably not. They they did help.
Speaker 1: I mean, this was before we had like jeeps, so
Speaker 1: you know, we had to use camels.
Speaker 2: We had to use Joe Camel. Yeah, impourt all his cigarettes.
Speaker 1: Oh man, Joe Cammel such a bad look for camels.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, he wasn't. He wasn't their best spokesperson.
Speaker 3: No, no, they should have sent someone else, but uh,
Speaker 3: we got Joe.
Speaker 1: But even though they look like kind of ungainly like,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be able to run very fast, especially because
Speaker 1: they're fluffy back. During camels as well as actually the
Speaker 1: dromedary camels can run pretty fast, up to forty miles
Speaker 1: per hour or sixty five kilometers per hour. Typically, they
Speaker 1: don't like to run. That's not like their thing. They
Speaker 1: don't gallop around just for just for fun, but they can.
Speaker 3: They don't seem like runners, Yeah they don't. They don't
Speaker 3: strike me as runners.
Speaker 2: They're not.
Speaker 3: They have those long legs, but I can't imagine. Their
Speaker 3: bodies are so misshapen to their legs. But yeah, they're
Speaker 3: they're awkward.
Speaker 1: They're a little awkward. They I mean, they are capable
Speaker 1: of running pretty fast. They just it is not not
Speaker 1: They're like not a fun activity for them. They're not
Speaker 1: like up at six am and they're yeah.
Speaker 2: Get it in there.
Speaker 3: They Yeah, they seem low energy or they just know
Speaker 3: how to conserve that energy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with their with their CrossFit tennis shoes and they're yeah,
Speaker 1: apple watch. I'm trying to think of the runner like
Speaker 1: intense runner outfits.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they they had the belt with why they don't
Speaker 3: need the belt they don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like water belt they had.
Speaker 1: They got got the the tube, the like the water backpack.
Speaker 2: That third picture you have with this factory and camel.
Speaker 2: It it's so funny.
Speaker 3: I do like that they seem to keep tufts of
Speaker 3: hair on the top. I don't know if it's just
Speaker 3: waiting to lose those like thinner tufts of hair on
Speaker 3: the top of its back or humps. But I like
Speaker 3: that it's just like a little decorative poof Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think they kind of keep those wispies, like those
Speaker 1: kind of dark whispies on the top of their humps.
Speaker 2: That's fun.
Speaker 1: It's really fun.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just fun. And I also like he
Speaker 3: has like he kept like top of it. It looks like,
Speaker 3: I know people with his haircut. He has like a
Speaker 3: nineties boy band like.
Speaker 2: Middle part haircut. Yeah. No, it's good, it's good. Uh,
Speaker 2: it's it's a look.
Speaker 3: It looks like yeah, it's just it looks like this
Speaker 3: camel's like started new you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a he's a what is it Backstreet boys? Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like his haircut. I think he's doing good.
Speaker 3: He looks like, you know, yeah, it doesn't look that
Speaker 3: much like a crisis. I mean there's a little crisis
Speaker 3: going on underneath. By at the top, he's grooming himself.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, like if you ignore him from
Speaker 1: sort of like the waist down, he's he's well roomed.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It does look like one of those Chinese crested dogs.
Speaker 1: It does a little bit yeah, which I do, which
Speaker 1: I do think are cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 3: I prefer the fluff, but uh, you know, this camel's
Speaker 3: figuring out his luck.
Speaker 2: Without this camel, it's.
Speaker 1: Got the best of both worlds because like in the winter,
Speaker 1: fluff for days, and then the summer.
Speaker 2: Boy, yeah, in the summer he's shedding, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he prepared, He prepared for the summer, and he
Speaker 3: knew what his luck was going to be exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he achieved it, he really did. I really
Speaker 2: like that. He does have this like cloth like human
Speaker 2: like haircut.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I hope he keeps that for the summer.
Speaker 1: Kind of dark roots too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's grown out a little bit, a little bit
Speaker 3: of a mullet shape going on, but he has he
Speaker 3: has is swoopy.
Speaker 1: Hair, little haircut. Yeah, really cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as little pomp poms on his back.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like I do like pom poms.
Speaker 2: It's nice. I like that they just like keep that.
Speaker 2: They're just like these are for me, these are just.
Speaker 1: For You're just like, eh, I'll keep them keeping them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so like them onto. The only undomesticated wild camel still
Speaker 1: left in the world, the wild Bactrian so Again, this
Speaker 1: is not like a feral version of the Bactrian camel.
Speaker 1: This is a different species that diverged over a million
Speaker 1: years ago and it is the only still living completely
Speaker 1: wild and free camel.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, they are critically endangered. Only around a thousand individuals
Speaker 1: still exist in the wild, and in my opinion, it
Speaker 1: is really important to make sure they do not go
Speaker 1: extinct because they are incredible. So they live in the
Speaker 1: Gobi Desert and in China's lap Nur Desert mountain region
Speaker 1: in protected reserves, and these are the only places where
Speaker 1: you will find them. The wild Bactrian camel is more
Speaker 1: lithe and wiry than its domesticated counterparts, a little more sleek,
Speaker 1: little more aerodynamic. Uh. It looks similar, more similar to
Speaker 1: the Bactrian camel, the domesticated Bactrian camel, than it does
Speaker 1: to a dromedary camel. It has two humps, it's got
Speaker 1: that the same a lot of the same features, the
Speaker 1: fluffy coat in the wind winter that it sheds in
Speaker 1: the summer. Because it lives in similar conditions in uh,
Speaker 1: the the extreme hot and extreme cold climates. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it is. It is very similar in a lot of
Speaker 1: ways to the domesticated Bactrian camel.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It uh, this looks like a wild camel.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Now that I'm comparing, this looks like the This guy
Speaker 2: has been out.
Speaker 3: There, yeah, live in the He's been on the road,
Speaker 3: living a hard life. He also yeah, I mean he's
Speaker 3: clearly losing patches of flur. But yeah, there's something about
Speaker 3: this one's eyes that it's like I've seen.
Speaker 2: Some eahn out here. It's not. It looks a little
Speaker 2: more alert than the other canimals do.
Speaker 1: And indeed they have seen. They have seen some stuff,
Speaker 1: some crazy stuff. They actually faced nuclear threats from humans
Speaker 1: in the sixties. China in the sixties tested nuclear weapons
Speaker 1: in the atmosphere over Lopnar where these camels were located,
Speaker 1: so they were exposed to a lot of radiation. Weirdly enough,
Speaker 1: the camels survived. They were okay. They survived nuclear radiation
Speaker 1: from forty three nuclear tests over the Lapner region and
Speaker 1: it's really amazing. It's hard to say how they managed this.
Speaker 1: It's possible that their thick fur and skin may have
Speaker 1: protected them somewhat. There may also be something going on
Speaker 1: with their gut bacteria. I'll talk about that a little
Speaker 1: more in just a minute. But it's really incredible that
Speaker 1: they are were able to survive like nuclear radiation, extreme hot,
Speaker 1: extreme cold, nuclear radiation.
Speaker 3: That's mind blowing these that's a sturdy animal and it
Speaker 3: did not deserve that.
Speaker 2: But that's incredible.
Speaker 3: H Yeah, I guess it could be like camels and
Speaker 3: cockroaches at the end here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean yeah, I think of the animals
Speaker 1: that may survive a like a nuclear winter, God forbid,
Speaker 1: maybe a camel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who would have thought? Not me. I would not
Speaker 3: have They would not have been at the top of
Speaker 3: my list. But yeah, I'm proud of them.
Speaker 2: I'm proud of you. Hopefully they don't have to do
Speaker 2: that again.
Speaker 1: But yeah, hopefully, because I'll tell you one thing, they'd
Speaker 1: survive a lot better than humans one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh that. I'm proud. I'm happy for them,
Speaker 2: very happy for them.
Speaker 1: Some good news is that in nineteen ninety six, China
Speaker 1: signed the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, so those nuclear tests
Speaker 1: no longer happen and now the area is a sanctuary
Speaker 1: for the camels.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love that for them. Yeah, let them hug.
Speaker 1: You can't hug with nuclear arms, but you can't hug
Speaker 1: a camel, it might spit at you, but you know.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but you know, we all get puked on
Speaker 3: a little bit at one point, sure exactly for another
Speaker 3: or puke on or you're the puky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in your.
Speaker 1: Case, it's the beautiful circle of puke. So something that
Speaker 1: is super super fascinating about these wild Bactrian camels. So
Speaker 1: domesticated camels, the drumedaries and the domesticated Bactrian camels can
Speaker 1: tolerate slightly salty water, slightly brackish water, they'll be able
Speaker 1: to drink and process. But the wild Bactrian camel amazingly
Speaker 1: can drink salt water that is saltier than sea water,
Speaker 1: which again is not recommended for humans because it will
Speaker 1: kill you.
Speaker 2: If you drink.
Speaker 1: You drink too much seawater, you're gonna die because that
Speaker 1: is your body is not designed to be able to
Speaker 1: handle that much salt.
Speaker 3: That is that I know that I'm very well aware
Speaker 3: of the yeah I have blown away by these damn camels.
Speaker 1: We've learned two things today about human survival. Is that like,
Speaker 1: if you're thirsty in the snow, don't eat snow. If
Speaker 1: you're thirsty out at sea, don't drink the sea water
Speaker 1: unless your camel.
Speaker 2: And then like wild fine, they're just.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wild back and camel, it's fine, you're good.
Speaker 2: They are so yes.
Speaker 1: I mean, the exact mechanism for how they managed to
Speaker 1: drink this incredibly salty water is not yet known, but
Speaker 1: summer research is pointing in the direction of special gut
Speaker 1: bacteria that may be passed from uh, the mother's milk
Speaker 1: to her offspring that allows them to process high salt content.
Speaker 1: So this is research that is just kind of like
Speaker 1: starting to figure these things out. So it's not I mean,
Speaker 1: I have not seen like conclusive research. If anyone out
Speaker 1: there is a camel researcher and you know more, please
Speaker 1: let me know right right to me.
Speaker 2: He know, yeah, I the camel is mysterious and how
Speaker 2: it survives.
Speaker 1: It's, uh, you'd think we know everything about the ding
Speaker 1: camel right at this point. It's like, Okay, sure, we
Speaker 1: don't know that much about this random like cave moss
Speaker 1: that nobody's studied or something, or this in this obscure
Speaker 1: tiny frog h deep in the rainforest. But this is
Speaker 1: a camel, and we don't know everything about this camel.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's kind of amazing that we still
Speaker 1: have so much to learn about this camel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, don't be fooled by their dopey looks.
Speaker 2: They're full of mystery.
Speaker 1: They contain multitudes.
Speaker 2: They I mean in those humps.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, you're just looking those humps, those humps, those
Speaker 1: lovely camel humps.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's uh, he did not like, Yeah, they're they're
Speaker 3: my serious.
Speaker 2: Creatures and turns out badasses, Yes, camel badasses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really I will keep up to date on
Speaker 1: the camel research because I'm really interested in how these
Speaker 1: wild bacting camels are able to survive radiation and drink
Speaker 1: salt water saltier than seawater. It's incredible, truly, Like, I
Speaker 1: really do think that these camels would survive an apocalypse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like it.
Speaker 3: They're they're way heartier than they seem because again, there's
Speaker 3: such like an awkward creature.
Speaker 2: I think that's why they're like so lovable. Is Yeah,
Speaker 2: weird looking.
Speaker 3: They have those dopey faces and this weird body, but
Speaker 3: you know they're they're more than they look. If you said, like,
Speaker 3: describe a hearty animal, the last thing I would think
Speaker 3: of would be a.
Speaker 1: Camel right, describe a hardcore like Mad Max sort of level,
Speaker 1: you know, just the furios of the animal kingdom. It
Speaker 1: is a camel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it turns out they're the Charlie's theirns, especially those
Speaker 2: lovely eyelashes. Yes, I mean they're hot in hell.
Speaker 1: Hot and can survive a post apocalyptic world. What more
Speaker 1: could you want? I mean, I don't know, but I mean,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that these are hardcore survivalists, like I mentioned,
Speaker 1: they are critically endangered and that's because of you know,
Speaker 1: human encroachment on their habitat and hunting. So uh. You know,
Speaker 1: I am really rooting for these camels though, because it
Speaker 1: just doesn't seem fair to you know, wipe them out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can deal with all these crazy elements and
Speaker 3: even our nuclear bull.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and perhaps they shall inherit the earth.
Speaker 2: You know, that seems like a better earth, cammel Earth.
Speaker 3: I don't know about the tongue thing in the in
Speaker 3: the spinning, but you know, well, they they've got some
Speaker 3: stuff figured out clearly that we don't.
Speaker 2: They do have a lot of stuff figured out.
Speaker 1: And I am I for one, welcome the the inflatable
Speaker 1: mouth sacks.
Speaker 2: Of love that they have.
Speaker 1: But I do hope for a bright future where we
Speaker 1: can coexist peacefully with the camels and you know, denuclearize
Speaker 1: the world but re camelize it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, more camels.
Speaker 1: More camels, more camel's, fewer nukes. That is my That
Speaker 1: that is a cause I am would be happy to
Speaker 1: be behind.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: So so Bridget, are you ready to play a little
Speaker 1: game with me?
Speaker 2: Always?
Speaker 1: Yes, Well, we're gonna play guess who's squawking? The mystery
Speaker 1: animal sound game. Every week we play a mystery animal
Speaker 1: sound and you listeners out there and you my guests
Speaker 1: have to guess who is squawking, and it can be
Speaker 1: any animal, from a fish to a bird too, I
Speaker 1: don't know, some kind of snake, anything. And the only
Speaker 1: thing you get is the animal sound anialtle hint. Because
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm benevolent, I will give you a hint
Speaker 1: and you try to guess who is squawking. So last
Speaker 1: week's hint was this is a redhead with legs for days. So, Bridget,
Speaker 1: can't you guess who's making that sound?
Speaker 2: The redhead is throwing me off. I'm gonna go it's wrong.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm just clinging for anything because I I I'm stumped.
Speaker 2: Here is it? Is it a hyaena?
Speaker 1: It's a very interesting guess, very very it's.
Speaker 3: Definitely not, because it's definitely not, but I'm gonna I
Speaker 3: mean it's the famously, it is a good guess.
Speaker 2: It's a fair guess.
Speaker 1: Certain species of hyenas can be pretty leggy, so I
Speaker 1: don't blame you for that, but this is, in fact
Speaker 1: not a hyena. Congratulations to the three fastest guessers, Joey P.
Speaker 1: Magnus Oh, and Joshua J who all correctly guessed that
Speaker 1: this is the roar bark of a mained wolf. So uh,
Speaker 1: Maimed wolves are not actually wolves, and they are not
Speaker 1: giant foxes, even though they kind of look like a
Speaker 1: giant fox.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: They are wild canines related to foxes and wolves, but
Speaker 1: only distantly. They are relatively ancient species of canid, one
Speaker 1: of the only large South American canid species that survived
Speaker 1: the mass extinction of metagaphun around fifteen to thirteen thousand
Speaker 1: years ago.
Speaker 2: Oh look at these guys. Yeah, I was gonna it's
Speaker 2: gonna go wolf or fox. Oh this is a pretty animal,
Speaker 2: very pretty. Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I reached for dog because I thought wolf, but
Speaker 3: they I thought of a different sound when I thought
Speaker 3: of wolf, that I should have thought of a different
Speaker 3: sound and I thought of hyena.
Speaker 1: But uh, but I mean, you were circling it, right,
Speaker 1: because it is it is a confuse. You were really
Speaker 1: circling around it because it is a confusing animal because
Speaker 1: it kind of looks like a wolf, kind of looks
Speaker 1: like a fox, has really long legs, actually has that
Speaker 1: kind of mane like a hyena does. Although a hyena
Speaker 1: is not that closely related to uh, the CA nine species.
Speaker 1: Hyenas are actually more related to mongooses and felines. So
Speaker 1: the mained wolf is really really interesting canid. So it
Speaker 1: is omnivorous. Actually it eats both meat and vegetation in
Speaker 1: almost equal measures, so almost fifty to fifty. It loves
Speaker 1: it loves fruit and it loves meat. They are particularly
Speaker 1: fond of a fruit known as the wolf apple or
Speaker 1: fruita do lobo in Portuguese. It is a flowering shrub
Speaker 1: with a green fruit with white, pulpy flesh that they
Speaker 1: just absolutely love. So I don't know if I'm not
Speaker 1: kind of cute that they're like they love their little
Speaker 1: wolf apples.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. I love that it's called a
Speaker 2: wolf apple. It's just like an apple just for them.
Speaker 2: Guess who else loves apples, Katie Golden.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that would be weird if I was
Speaker 1: just like guess who else likes apples?
Speaker 2: Mem will love apples. The camels do love apples. I
Speaker 2: can see.
Speaker 1: No. My dog, my dog doll, loves apples.
Speaker 2: Oh, Cookie loves apples.
Speaker 1: She will come running when she hears and I do
Speaker 1: I like apples. I wouldn't say like, I love them.
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy for them, but I like them. I'll
Speaker 1: eat them. And but when I do eat them, Cookie
Speaker 1: just gallops into the room and sits next to me
Speaker 1: and starts licking your lips because she knows she's about
Speaker 1: to get some little little bites apples, some apple.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's cute. They're funny when they eat, when
Speaker 2: they eat crunchy foods, she loves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she loves apples, bell peppers, cucumbers. It's it's pretty yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's kind of like one of those oulcumbers.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dogs love cucumbers. That's our family dog. We couldn't
Speaker 3: say no to treats for her, so we transitioned her
Speaker 3: to cucumbers.
Speaker 2: And you love them. I love it.
Speaker 1: There's something about the crunchiness, the hydration.
Speaker 2: They love it.
Speaker 3: Give your dog a cucumber, give your dog a dog,
Speaker 3: give it a give it a cue cover.
Speaker 2: They'll be so happy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, these main wolves, I think they're one of
Speaker 1: the most gorgeous canids. They have these long legs that
Speaker 1: like have these black socks like they're wearing. Kind of
Speaker 1: gives me the vibe of like Martisha wearing those that
Speaker 1: long long black gloves.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got elegance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like I'm seeing them like mid step and
Speaker 3: they walk. Yeah, they have a very pretty walk.
Speaker 1: Yes, very very runway runway walk. They have this fluffy
Speaker 1: black mane on the nape of their necks. And they're
Speaker 1: actually the tallest wild canid at around three feet or
Speaker 1: ninety centimeters tall uh and sixty five pounds they're on,
Speaker 1: which is thirty kilograms and they live in the grasslands
Speaker 1: of the Serrado, which is a tropical savannah region in Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina,
Speaker 1: and Bolivia.
Speaker 2: Rules.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the they're the largest South American canine. They
Speaker 1: are actually not a pack animal. They live mostly solitary lives.
Speaker 1: They use this roar bark to warn others of its
Speaker 1: territory or to communicate with a mate about where it is,
Speaker 1: where its location is, which it also does the same
Speaker 1: thing with the urine. It uses its urine to communicate.
Speaker 1: But I can't share mained wolf urine over a podcast,
Speaker 1: so that's why I shared it instead.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Two bad podcasts don't come in smell a vision, because
Speaker 1: I'd have some interesting smells for you folks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, their puppies are cute, so cute.
Speaker 3: Look they're playing with their pups. These guys are good,
Speaker 3: good animal.
Speaker 1: Good good animal, and good job. I got a lot
Speaker 1: of correct guesses out there, and uh so, congratulations guys you.
Speaker 1: I'm always really impressed that listeners are able to get these.
Speaker 1: I feel like, even though I make the game, I
Speaker 1: would not be as good at playing it as a
Speaker 1: lot of my listeners are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tricky. I'm impressed, Yes, thoroughly impressed.
Speaker 1: I got I got some smart listeners. So uh now
Speaker 1: onto this week's mystery animal.
Speaker 2: Sound a hint.
Speaker 1: You might find these little dudes boogying to an imaginary beat,
Speaker 1: but it's probably for the prey that lie deep beneath
Speaker 1: their feet. Mh, so bridget who do you think is squawking?
Speaker 2: Oh god, that was Is it like a heron or something?
Speaker 1: And an interest sting guests and I will reveal the
Speaker 1: answer to this week's mystery animal sound on next week's
Speaker 1: podcast next Wednesday. If you out there think you know
Speaker 1: who is squawking, you can write to me at Creature
Speaker 1: Feature Pod at gmail dot com. You can also find
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Creature feet Pod. Uh, that's f
Speaker 1: e eight, not f e e t. That is something
Speaker 1: very different. You can also find me on Instagram at
Speaker 1: Creature Feature Pod. I'm also on Twitter at Katie Golden.
Speaker 1: If you do check out my timeline, you might actually
Speaker 1: get a little bit of a spoiler for what this
Speaker 1: week's mystery animal sound is. So, uh you may want
Speaker 1: you may want to check that out or try to
Speaker 1: guess it for yourself, whatever you want. And uh yeah,
Speaker 1: uh ritget. Thank you so much for joining me and
Speaker 1: uh sharing my love for camels.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Where where can the people find you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can find me doing podcasts over on the
Speaker 3: Small Beans Network and my co host Sarah Griffith are
Speaker 3: right now going through movie trilogies on a series called
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