1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: I Am all in again. Oh that's you. I Am 2 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: All in Town meeting with Suzanne French and Tara suit 3 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: An iHeartRadio podcast. 4 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of I'm All in 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: Town Meeting with myself, Tara and Suzanne. 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: Hello. 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Hello. 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: Today we're talking about season three, episode sixteen, the Big One, 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: which aired on February twenty fifth, two thousand and three, 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 2: sponsored by Claton. Yes, the giant Clraton Yeah band in 11 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: Dozies was it? 12 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 3: Yeah? 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: It was a Dosies right. Yeah. 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: Oh, I think in the pharmacy when she went to the. 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: Farm pharmacy there we a yeah. 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: I like because they even mentioned like allergy medication. 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh, there's a Clareton. 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: And it's funny because I broke out into hives this morning, 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: very random. I think it's probably just weather or something 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: I ate or something. So I took the Clarton this morning. 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: And then I watched this episode and I was like, huh, 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: right on the nose. 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, And back then that was the only like because 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: she's she made some comment about the non drowsy allergy medication, 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 3: and back then Clareton was the only one that was 26 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 3: over the counter because and all those were still prescriptions. 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: So I mean Zertech still yeah, is by far the best. 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 3: Yeah it is. Yeah, anyways, fun fact from your pharmacist. 29 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: But I enjoyed the episode. Actually yeah, I thought, yeah 30 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: it was. 31 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: There was a lot going on. It was interesting that 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 3: we didn't so we had all those episodes in a row 33 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: where we had Emily but not Richard, and now we 34 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: have Richard but not Emily. 35 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: So I kind of love that he fell asleep at 36 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: the debate and then at the end he's like, oh, 37 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: the lady, the girl did a wonderful job, and she's like, 38 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: I'm glad they'd love to hear that or whatever she said, 39 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: Like it was just funny. 40 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 1: That was Paris was so good. 41 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I mean the most Paris episode by far. 42 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, she was so good. I mean she just she's 43 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: just such a good actress in general, like everything that 44 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: I've seen her in I've liked. But yes, this episode 45 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: was just really good. 46 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: I mean, she really embodied like the character they were 47 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:30,559 Speaker 2: going for, like this nutty and even though like it 48 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: not that it's like, oh, like I love how this 49 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 2: turned out, but like the fact that she didn't get 50 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: in and Rory did. Was just such a like like 51 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 2: you know. 52 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, because they've been so competitive and Paris has 53 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 3: been so mean to her for the past three years. Yeah, 54 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: it was it was that was an interesting It was 55 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: good to see that. 56 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 57 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: I had to laugh though, because it was such a 58 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: like we we we've talked on the show before about 59 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 3: things that were different then than they are now. And 60 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: the whole thing about getting the big envelope. Yes, like 61 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 3: that doesn't even exist anymore because it's all online. 62 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: No, I think when I was applying, so I graduated 63 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: high school in twenty eleven, so I was applying in 64 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: twenty ten, some of the schools were still doing the 65 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: big envelopes. Yeah, and I don't remember all of them, 66 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: but like I think because I went to seasun cal 67 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: State Northridge, and I think I got the big envelope 68 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: from season, but a couple other schools I think I 69 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: think it was online. But like I remember applying online, 70 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: but then I would get everything in the mail. But 71 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: like I was talking to someone recently, and you have 72 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: I mean, you have kids who are just finish high 73 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: school or in school. 74 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: Do they don't use scantrons anymore? 75 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: You know, it depends on the class. I know that 76 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: my son because he's in like a science major. Well 77 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: he just graduated, but he they did use scan trot 78 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: for like some of his science classes, but a lot 79 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: of it is online. 80 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: Because I was talking to someone and they were like, oh, 81 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: They're like maybe it's just that person's school, but they 82 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: were like, oh, my kids don't use Scantron's. 83 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: Everything's just like online. 84 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: Like there's a computer or like they bring their like 85 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: school computer to class and do the test there on 86 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: like a link that they send out. 87 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 88 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: I know. 89 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: My youngest is he's going to community college and he 90 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: took a class over the winter break that was all 91 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: online and so they had the final. They had an 92 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 3: option they could either they have like these things like 93 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: these lockdown browsers I think is what they're called. I 94 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: don't know. It's both you. 95 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: Can't open another tab. 96 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, so like you're like your camera has to 97 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 3: be on so they can watch you, and it's like 98 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: very controlled. It's like they don't want you cheating obviously. Yeah, 99 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 3: so they don't want you to like link over to 100 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 3: other websites or do Google searches or things like that. 101 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: So it's tightly controlled. 102 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: So funny because I took I took a an onlin 103 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: and in course a summer course in college. It was 104 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: just like a getting ahead of a unit. I totally 105 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: had another tab open for like the things I didn't know. 106 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: It's so funny because like back then, no one thought 107 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: of it and like. 108 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 3: Right, well, recently we're like way off topic and ill this. 109 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: I just read an article I think it was like 110 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: last week or the week before about how blue books 111 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: are making a comeback because so many people are or 112 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: professors think so many people are cheating that they are 113 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 3: bringing back like the physical written exam in class and 114 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: like making. 115 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: I had to remember what a blue book was. You 116 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 2: said it, and I'm like, what's a blue book? And 117 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: then as you said, I was like, oh that's right. 118 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: I yeah that because I'm I'm like really old. So 119 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: you know, when I went to college, we did Scantron's. 120 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: I remember going to the student store to buy scantron Yeah. 121 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: I have to do that too. I have to do 122 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: that too. Even in college I had to go buy Scantron's. 123 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. It's it's certainly a lot different. 124 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: I don't think Emma, one of our producers, Emma, I 125 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: don't think Emma had to do that. She graduated like 126 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: two years ago. When did you graduate, emma from. 127 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: College or high school college twenty twenty three? 128 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, see wow three years ago. Yeah, your whole college 129 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: was basically zoom. 130 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am a zoom baby through and through. Yeah, 131 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: that's true. 132 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: That sucks, I know. Anyway, we're back to the story 133 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: of Ye. 134 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: Also, no more big envelopes was the whole point of 135 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: that discussion. 136 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: But that like, but honestly, it's so funny because this 137 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: episode wouldn't have worked in modern day Like now you 138 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 2: see pople in TikTok, like they just like open up. 139 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: Their portal, do it. 140 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: But like the thought of like she had like what 141 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: three like three big envelopes, and so it's just I 142 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: don't know, like this episode wouldn't have worked in this 143 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: age age. 144 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it would have. It would have had to have 145 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: been totally different, like the whole physical say, and like 146 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: you know, Kirk delivering the mail like that wouldn't have 147 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: even made the waiting for the may that. Yeah. So 148 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: one thing I want to point out with the envelopes 149 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: is at holidays made here at Warner Brothers, at Lorelei's house, 150 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: they had the mailbox that said Gilmour on the side, 151 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: and they it had the three big envelopes in it, 152 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: and I loved that little detail. I might have a 153 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: picture of it somewhere, but it just they just really 154 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: thought of everything. So I know we've we've talked a 155 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: lot about holidays made here, but I just I loved 156 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: that little detail because it was so very specific to 157 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: that one episode. 158 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's very cute, it's very cool. 159 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: I completely forgot that Max Medina makes a comeback. Yes, 160 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: like I saw him and I was like, oh my god, like. 161 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: There yeah for a hot minute. 162 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, although I did love the Suki being pregnant stuff, 163 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: like the way that the way that like they figured 164 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: it out was just such a sukie yeah doing so. 165 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they came to the realization both at the 166 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: same time. 167 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: That was c That was very cute. 168 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: I didn't really have any call out e's like things 169 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: that stuck at stood out, minus the Clareton giant billboard thing. 170 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know if you had it, but it 171 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: was a pretty good episode for me. You know. 172 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: I didn't have anything in the way of like mistakes 173 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: or inconsistencies or anything like that. I did. There was 174 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: a clown pillow. Did you see the clown pillow? 175 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: I didn't. Actually, it was. 176 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: In the scene where okay, Rory is, what is my 177 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: zoom doing? Okay, Rory is sitting on the couch in 178 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 3: the living room, and was when she was talking. She 179 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: was on the conference call with the headmaster and Paris 180 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 3: and they were talking about the speech. She was sitting 181 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: on the couch in the living room and you could 182 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: see it over a couple of I. 183 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: Usually with Paris scenes, I feel like my eyes are 184 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: on Paris. So she's so ridiculous. So that's funny. 185 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: I didn't realize. 186 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so there was a clown pillow. And then another thing. 187 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: We've talked about it a couple episodes ago. I can't 188 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: remember exactly which episode it was, but it was where 189 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 3: Lane's band was putting all their stuff in Laurai's garage. 190 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 3: We talked about the reference to Pamela de bar and 191 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: how you know she was the famous groupie and she 192 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 3: was in real life was married to Mary. 193 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 194 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 3: Episode anyways, that's her book that Laura I was reading 195 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: at the very start of the episode, were waiting for 196 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: the mail to come. Laura I was reading hamilch. 197 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: Which by the way to take it back. I thought 198 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 2: it was very odd the scene started on her feet. 199 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 3: Yes it wasn't It started. 200 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: And I was like, that's a choice to start from. 201 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I understand the panning up, but like to 202 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: start like on her feet. 203 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: It was just like, oh, okay, very I. 204 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: Didn't even think about that, but you're right. 205 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: Well, it caught me off guard because I'm like, I 206 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: thought it was like in the middle of like like 207 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: I thought when I started my Netflix it was like 208 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: starting a new scene. I realized that was the opening 209 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: of the entire episode. I was like, oh, okay, there's 210 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 2: there's her feet. 211 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, And then there was the whole conversation about 212 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 3: Rory not having shoes, so there was a feet. 213 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: For the foot fetish people, something. 214 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: For everyone in the show. And then speaking about like 215 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: real life connections, the Chilton student Brad that yes, Harris 216 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 3: was making fun of the whole time. So if you 217 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: didn't know he really the actor himself, Adam Wiley really 218 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: was into the woods, so he really literally was coming 219 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 3: back from being on Broadway. 220 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: Which was such a good like. 221 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: And then when Paris was making fun of him to 222 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: like sing along and distract him, and everyone in the 223 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 2: in the hallway. 224 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: She was brutal in that scene. She was like going 225 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 3: personal and oh my gosh, she. 226 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: Was she was bad. 227 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: But it was like all the build up for her 228 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: like train wreck of a moment on stage, which I 229 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 2: like how she showed up like so disheveled and like 230 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: in this like and then also like I love how 231 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: it had to do with like having sex. 232 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: It was like, what did that have to do with anything? 233 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, when she blurts out, I had sex, but I'm 234 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: not going to Harvard, like everyone gasps. 235 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: I kind of wish they had Richard awake for that. 236 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I honestly I understand it was just funnier 237 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: with the payoff, like, oh, ladies did great, but like 238 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 2: for Richard to see that would have been hilarious. 239 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's let's talk for a second about the sex. 240 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: Yes. 241 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 3: So there's a couple of things that stick out in 242 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: this episode. So one thing is when Paris is at 243 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: Laureles's house and Laurela is overhearing them talking and she 244 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: says to herself, I've got the good kid. That kind 245 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 3: of bugs me, like it's kind of slugshaming in a way. 246 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, what I mean, I didn't think of 247 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: it that way, but in the moment now that you 248 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: say it, Yeah, But also I just felt like their 249 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: seniors in high school, like a lot of people. I 250 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 2: think we've talked about the sex talk before, but like 251 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 2: I feel like eighteen to like twenty one is like 252 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 2: probably when people are like the average I would say, right, people, 253 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's younger these days, but like, 254 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: you know, I think I don't understand why Lorala has 255 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: to have like an opinion on it when your daughter 256 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: is basically an adult. Yeah, and you know, and you 257 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: trust her, and you know she's a good kid, So 258 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: what's the point of saying that? 259 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: And and I didn't know, like, are they trying to 260 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: foreshadow where Rory's story is gonna go? Where you know, 261 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: her first time is with a married man? 262 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: What season is that? 263 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: That's the end of four, so it's still a whole 264 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: season away, So I don't know, you know, if they 265 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 3: had really planned that arc that far out. So maybe 266 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: that's just a coincidence, but I think, am I yeah, yeah, 267 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 3: But then when Paris Lady and Rory all have sex 268 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 3: the first time, there's always some negative consequence attached to 269 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 3: it in the aftermath, So I'm not sure, Like I 270 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 3: don't know Amy sum Pelatino is saying something about sex there. 271 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: I wonder, I wonder if it's just honestly the network 272 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: and the time. 273 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: This is two thousand and three, like there's I feel. 274 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: Like talking about sex and stuff is so normalized in 275 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: pop culture now and TV shows like I mean, have 276 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: you seen if you even know what euphorius about, like 277 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: a bunch of high school kids basically just having sex. 278 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 3: I haven't seen. 279 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: Now it's a lot, but like, I bet you it's 280 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: the network because I I think back then it was 281 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: more like, oh, like make sure you're safe, like don't 282 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 2: get pregnant as a teenager, and it was so like 283 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 2: commonly a message, a message commonly pushed out. Yeah, I 284 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 2: don't think it was like I don't know, I could 285 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: be wrong. 286 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm just guessing. I'm just thinking of the time. 287 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: I don't think it's like, Okay, well Paris is gonna 288 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: have sex. 289 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: Now we have to say why it's bad. 290 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 2: And then like Rory had sex with a married man, 291 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: so now it's a double like it's yead and then 292 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: Laane had sex because she's not having sex with a 293 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: Korean man who her parents are, you know what I mean, 294 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: Like I don't think that it was planned out that way. 295 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, but oh no, I just I just thought it 296 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: was interesting that the same pattern kept repeating itself. 297 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: Oh for sure. 298 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: For sure. I'm like, you know, can't somebody have sex 299 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: and like enjoy it. 300 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I also just wish that, like Loralai wasn't 301 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: a part of that scene. I wish that scene was 302 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: just two girls having a conversation, yeah, between like girlfriends, 303 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: like teenage friends, because. 304 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: Like teenage friends have those conversations all the time, right. 305 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And especially because was it the the last 306 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: episode where we had the thing with them on the 307 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: couch and Laureli is like tell me before it happens, 308 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: Like we just saw that. I didn't feel like we 309 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: needed to see Larel. 310 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: Like doing that again. 311 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, like we get it. 312 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's it's probably I don't remember if it 313 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: was the last episode, but maybe within the last like 314 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: three four It was too soon to have the same 315 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: thing repeated. 316 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 3: Oh it was two it was two episodes ago. That 317 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: was the end of episode fourteen. 318 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: But that's still too soon to like be like, by 319 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,359 Speaker 2: the way, this is the message we're pushing right exactly. 320 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: I mean I'd be really curious if like message because 321 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: that's the only thing they had back then, if like 322 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: message boards and like two thousand and three were like, 323 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: I can't believe. 324 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: They're talking about a teenager having sex. 325 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: I could only imagine what the public what you I mean, 326 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: you don't even know though, Like. 327 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but the teenagers were having sex before that. 328 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: I mean, look at nine O two one. Oh, I 329 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: mean that was in the nineties. 330 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Gilmour was a lot more of a family 331 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: friendly show than nine oh two one. Oh. 332 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's true. 333 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: Like, I know, I was just having a conversation with 334 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: someone who they were like, oh, I wasn't allowed to 335 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: watch that show as a kid because of the time 336 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: of it. And also two was nineties, so yeah, it 337 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: was a little more raunchy. 338 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have something to bring up to both of you. Yeah, yeah, 339 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 4: please do Okay, So do you think because I was 340 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 4: reading on Reddit with fans, do you think that it 341 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 4: was also Laura? I kind of relieved that Rory is 342 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 4: not doing the same thing that Laura I did in 343 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 4: high school. 344 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 3: Oh, I think that definitely was it. 345 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 5: Yes, So I think that's part of like her own 346 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 5: insecurity of like making sure not to raise someone like herself, 347 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 5: you know, and making the choices like she did young pregnant. 348 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: I just don't think that's fair, but I get it. 349 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it had to do with the 350 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: fact that it was Jess. Like Laura never said anything 351 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 3: like that when Rory was dating Dean, but now it's 352 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 3: Jess and it's come up twice, and I think that 353 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 3: she just sees she just sees that pattern happening again, 354 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: and she doesn't want Rory to go through what she. 355 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 5: Wants to make sure that Rory's breaking the cycle. 356 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it's a mix of things. I 357 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: think is that Dean was her first innocent boyfriend. And 358 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 2: then I also think that it's a combination of well, 359 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: Jess's Jess, but also she is now about to enter college. 360 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: It's like a little bit of both. I think, Yeah, 361 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: she doesn't. 362 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 3: Want Rory to get derailed or sidetracked off of her, 363 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 3: which I totally get. But at the same time, like 364 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: a teenager who has sex isn't a bad girl, you 365 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like the comment I got the 366 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: good kid, Like she's good because she isn't sex is. 367 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: It's not fair to say, right. 368 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 2: I actually like that they had the storyline of Paris 369 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: coming to be Like she's this kid who nothing has 370 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: mattered ever in her life besides school, and now she's 371 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: interested in a guy and she had sex and that's 372 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: okay because that's also a part of life. 373 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: Like right, I actually liked that. 374 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: And like, I think that now it's so funny because 375 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 2: watching the episode, I just watched it, like I just 376 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 2: didn't I like went to the next scene and didn't 377 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 2: think anything of it. But talking about it, I'm like, 378 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: maybe laural lie a little too like sheltering her too much. 379 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that that could be. I mean it 380 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: just could. I mean you kind of have to get 381 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: to a point where as the parent of adult children, 382 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 3: you have to get to the point where you're like, Okay, 383 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: I've I've done what I can. Yeah, right, and it's 384 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 3: up to them now. You hope that they make good decisions, 385 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: but you can't like. 386 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: Control their decisions. 387 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean she's going to college, so like 388 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: between now and six months from now, Laurela is gonna 389 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 2: have to Yeah. Well, it's also like, you know, Lane's 390 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 2: mom really kept her sheltered and so then she was 391 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 2: lying about it, and then you know, Rory was sheltered 392 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: a little bit, but not as much. But like, I mean, 393 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: look at the outcome of the show, like Rory's loss. 394 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: You know what it right? 395 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess the point is there's no 396 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 3: one right way to parent, Like no, you smother them 397 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: too much as bad and you let them have too 398 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 3: much freedom. It can be bad. So my situation, it's 399 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: going to depend on the kid. But Jackie, you said 400 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 3: something just now that made me think. You said, laurel 401 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 3: I is internalizing her own insecurities, and I actually hadn't 402 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 3: really thought about it that way in the context of 403 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 3: the good kid comment, because maybe she really is saying like, 404 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: because Lorelai was meant to feel like she was the 405 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 3: bad kid herself by her parents, and so I that 406 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 3: actually makes a lot of sense now to me that 407 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 3: she might say I got the good kid because Lorela 408 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 3: has always been characterized as the back kid. 409 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 5: Yep, that's what the reddit users also saying on online. 410 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for the deep dive on reddit on Jackie. 411 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: Reddit is such a weird place sometimes, you know, it's 412 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 3: either like I love it or I hate it. 413 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 4: You get so many perspectives. 414 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very tech savvy, and for the life of me, 415 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: I don't understand Reddit because it just keeps going and 416 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: going and it looks like a hodgepodge of like just messages, 417 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: and I'm like, can we keep us organ like you 418 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like it's just like you could 419 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 2: scroll for hours, but it's like different than like Twitter 420 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 2: or or like Instagram, because it's like not it's just 421 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: you can keep opening tabs. 422 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know what I mean. So, like, I 423 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: don't know, I feel so. 424 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,239 Speaker 2: Like old reading Reddit, but sometimes it has people love 425 00:20:54,280 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 2: good points, so I don't Yeah. 426 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: Do we have anything else for this episode? 427 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 3: I have one like completely silly, trivial thing. Okay, in 428 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 3: the very beginning, when they were at the diner and 429 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 3: talking about Luke's new menus, he was wearing a Ralph 430 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 3: Lawrence shirt. Now, Luke, there is no way that Luke 431 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: would ever have gone to the store and bought a 432 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: Ralph Lawrence shirt for himself. I mean maybe Nicole. 433 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I think it's maybe a Nicole thing, 434 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 2: because well, obviously we watched this episode. 435 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: With the next episode. 436 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: The next episode, he had some choices where I was like, huh, okay, 437 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 2: probably Nicole influence. 438 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't know. I just thought it was 439 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 3: funny because I never noticed before you could see like 440 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 3: the little the little Ralph logo. 441 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: That's funny. 442 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think that's a purchase that 443 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 3: Luke made for himself. 444 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: Definitely not. 445 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: Luke doesn't buy close himself to begin with. He buys 446 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: like four flannels from like Walmart. Yeah, with Jess's discount. 447 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: All right, So next episode is season three, episode seventeen, 448 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: a Tale. 449 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: Of Pose and Fire. We will see you next week. 450 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: Meeting adjourned. 451 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: Dot June. 452 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: Hey everybody, and don't forget Follow us on Instagram at 453 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: I Am all In podcast and email us at Gilmore 454 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 2: at iHeartRadio dot com.