1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: I'm Joe Matthew in Washington. This is special global coverage 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: of the State of the Union addressed tonight in Washington, 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 2: d C. Kaylee Lines, Rick Davis, and Genie Shanzano are 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: with us in our Washington bureau as we try to 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: unpack what we just heard. A laundry list, certainly, but 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: also a tone from this president that was predicted from 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: the White House. 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: High energy umph behind the speech. 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: He did manage to find spontaneous moments, Kaylee, with a 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: back and forth with none other than Marjorie Taylor Green. 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 2: It was the issue of the border that really seemed 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: to light up Republicans tonight in this room. 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 4: Absolutely. Marjorie Taylor Green confronting the President from across many 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 4: rows of seats about Lake and Riley, who we discussed 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 4: earlier this evening, a college student in Georgia who was 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 4: killed by a person who was in the country illegally. 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 4: He did say Lake and Riley's name. He addressed her 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 4: parents and, leaning on the empathy we have often seen 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 4: from this president, says he understands what it was like 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 4: having lost children himself, what they must be experiencing interesting though, 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 4: that on the actual substantive issue of the border, which 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 4: we knew was going to likely feature heavily into this speech, 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 4: he didn't get to it until about forty minutes in. 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 4: He instead began with the issue of Ukraine, then moving 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 4: to the issue of democracy. One of the big highlight 27 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 4: lines in the first portion of the speech coming from 28 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 4: the president, and he was alluding to his predecessor said 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 4: that you can't love your country only when you win, 30 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 4: and Joe he said that line after talking about January sixth, 31 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 4: and from there, of course, we saw him touch on 32 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 4: many other issues, abortion, the economy, and ending the skeeech 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 4: this evening, addressing what many see as one of his 34 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 4: biggest weaknesses as he campaigns for a second term, his age, 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: he said, I've been around a while, trying to play 36 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 4: a joke about it, but then also said, the issue 37 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 4: facing our nation is not how old we are, it's 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 4: how old our ideas are. And it was really toward 39 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 4: the end of this speech that you saw Biden in 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 4: campaign mode, not just addressing the American people in this 41 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 4: Congress as president, but as someone who would like to 42 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 4: stay president for another four years. 43 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: Show yeah, kayleie, We heard him use that line on 44 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: Late Night with Seth Meyers a couple of weeks ago, 45 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: about whether your ideas are old, and he certainly delivered 46 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: that here with some emphasis as he did the money 47 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,839 Speaker 2: line of the night. The state of our union, he said, 48 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 2: is strong and getting stronger. Not everyone in the room 49 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: agrees with that, of course, and I will tell you 50 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: that in this Statuary Hall, all the lawmakers are now 51 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: emerging from the chamber. Senators and members of the House 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: are streaming bias here, and we're going to have conversations 53 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: with some of them coming up here on Bloomberg for 54 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: their impressions, as I mentioned D's and R's who sat 55 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: through this Kalian. Of course, we're now going to be 56 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: hearing the official Republican response to this address tonight from 57 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: the President. 58 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. Senator Katie Britt of Alabama. Of course, at forty 59 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 4: two years old, the youngest woman Republican ever to be 60 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 4: elected to the Chamber, will shortly give the Republican response, 61 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 4: and of course we will be bringing you that response 62 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 4: live on Bloomberg television and radio. But we also do 63 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 4: want to get the response of our political panel who 64 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: is still with us. Jeanie Shanzeno of Iona University and 65 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: Rick Davis, partner at Stone Court Capital, are still here 66 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 4: with me at the Washington Bureau, and Genie, I would 67 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: like to just begin with you. This speech was over 68 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 4: an hour long. One of the big conversations we were 69 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 4: having going into it is not what the President said, 70 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: but how he said it being important. How would you 71 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 4: rate his performance this evening, aside from the policy he outlined, you. 72 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 5: Know, I have to say I think the performance itself 73 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 5: it was energetic. Joe used the word he had a 74 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 5: lot of oomph. I think it was raucous. He was 75 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 5: interacting with members of Congress, and I think performance wise, 76 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 5: he may have been able to do what he did 77 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 5: last year, which was twell some of the doubts about 78 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 5: his age and his ability. So I think from a 79 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 5: performance perspective, I'm not sure that the White House or 80 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 5: the campaign could have expected anything more from this president. 81 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 5: I think his experience showed this is Joe Biden in 82 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 5: his element. He is, after all, a man of Congress, 83 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 5: having served in this body from seventy three to two 84 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 5: thousand and nine, after which he went to the White House. 85 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 5: So I think this was a night where by performance standards. 86 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 5: He did exceed a lot of expectations. And that's the 87 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 5: way Joe Biden likes it. He feels like he's been 88 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 5: underestimated for most of his political and professional career, and 89 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 5: at those important moments he has done what he needed 90 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 5: to do. And I think tonight was one of those nights. 91 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: Rick your impressions here of this address, Expectations were so 92 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: high and made even higher by this White House. It 93 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: promised and energetic Joe Biden at nine o'clock at night, 94 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: and it sure seemed like we got one. You might 95 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: not agree with everything he said, but Ricky had the 96 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: room palm of his hand for extended periods of times 97 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: that I'd even achieved some back and forth, some call 98 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 2: and response with Republicans. Did he meet his goals? 99 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 100 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 5: I think he did. 101 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 6: I mean, look at how he started this speech out, 102 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 6: extremely strong, high paced, very strong wording around democracy, one 103 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 6: of his favorite topics. They went with something that I 104 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 6: think he thought he could get comfortable out and sound 105 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 6: like he's really embraced it. I think we also saw 106 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 6: the makings of the campaign speech. I mean, one of 107 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 6: the things I always look at is what's happening in 108 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 6: the first fifteen minutes, because with all due respect, not 109 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 6: everybody sits through the entire speech like we did tonight, 110 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 6: and so you want to get the biggest audience around 111 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 6: that key terms, and it was democracy, abortion rights, the pandemic, comeback, 112 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 6: the economy, and infrastructure, and I think after that the 113 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 6: rest of it was much more of a traditional state 114 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 6: of the Union and less campaign. 115 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: Until the end. 116 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 6: He used this opportunity to contrast over a dozen times 117 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 6: with his predat assessor, the unnamed man in this speech, 118 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 6: Donald Trump, and I think it was very aggressive in 119 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 6: that case. So I would say this speech was an 120 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 6: offensive speech. It was him taking it to Donald Trump, 121 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 6: defending the turf he's created for himself and his presidency 122 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 6: and talking to voters tonight. Much more so than Congress, 123 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 6: and much more so, frankly, than the foreign policy aspects 124 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 6: of this. It was a domestic speech meant for the 125 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 6: campaign well. 126 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 4: And Rick, as you talk about the idea that he 127 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 4: was referencing his predecessor without directly naming him, he also 128 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 4: said at one point in the speech that America cannot 129 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 4: go back. I'm here tonight to show the way forward. 130 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 4: And he went on at the end of the speech 131 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 4: with a kind of laundry list of the way that 132 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 4: he envisions the future. And I do believe we hear 133 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 4: Joe Matthew perhaps greeting a senator as they emerge from 134 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 4: the chamber and will bring you that conversation shortly. But 135 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 4: when he talks about the way forward, something else he 136 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 4: mentioned rick was a unity agenda. Is that what this 137 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 4: campaign is now going to be about? What is a 138 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: unity agenda? 139 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 3: Yeah? 140 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 6: I would say it was surprising to me because it 141 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 6: was stuck literally at the end of the speech, right 142 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 6: as he was wrapping things up, he sort of sprung 143 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 6: the unity agenda. He talked about bringing people home from 144 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 6: conflicts around the world and taking care of them. 145 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: He talked about AI. 146 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 6: It didn't seem to have this sort of cohesiveness that 147 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 6: the rest of the speech did. 148 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: And frankly, I didn't take the speech as a unity speech. 149 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 6: He wasn't asking Congress to sort of get together and 150 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 6: work things out. He was advocating for his views, and 151 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 6: he actually went after Republicans in the House a number 152 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 6: of times when they rejected conservative plans like the immigration 153 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 6: bill that came out of the Senate. So I think 154 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 6: it must have been an afterthought or something that they 155 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 6: tacked on to the end of the speech to try 156 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 6: and keep a positive tone to the finish. But to 157 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 6: be honest with you, I didn't really see how it 158 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 6: fit into the speech. 159 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 4: All right, and we want to go now back to 160 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: Joe in Statuary Hall, where he is joined by Senator 161 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 4: Dick Durbin, the Senate majority whip. Joe. 162 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Kaylee, Senator, it's great to see you and 163 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: welcome back to Bloomberg. On this State of the Union night. 164 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: I don't know how you managed to get out of 165 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: the chamber there. The energy seemed high. We were promised 166 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: a high energy Joe Biden late at night. Did he 167 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: pull that through for those who were in the room. 168 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 7: Absolutely, home run, strong ideas, strong presentation. But to rest 169 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 7: this notion is somehow an elderly man, you can't handle 170 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 7: the job. He showed real strength to ideas that are 171 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 7: important for America's future. 172 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting order in topics. 173 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 2: We started on Ukraine, we heard about the economy, a 174 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: lot of other issues before we ever got to the border. 175 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: Senator. 176 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 2: That seems to be the issue that lit up the room. 177 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: It certainly has been driving the debate here with the 178 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: President's supplemental emergency request. 179 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 3: Did he make any headway there? 180 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: You're seeing half the room up, half the room down, 181 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 2: and it really underscores the division. 182 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 7: Two out of three Americans know what's going on there. 183 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 7: As a bipartisan bill proposed in the Senate, which the 184 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 7: President supported, James Langford of Oklahoma, a Republican senator, was 185 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 7: the lead negotiator. We were ready to move forward on 186 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 7: a bipartisan solution. Guess what happened. Donald Trump said, stop, 187 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 7: we don't want to give Joe Biden a victory. Blame 188 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 7: it on me. He said, oh, I am blaming it 189 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 7: on him. He stopped any progress on a bipartisan solution. 190 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 7: The President tonight said, stop giving your speeches on the 191 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 7: Republican side about the border. Do something. Join me in 192 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 7: passing the spill. 193 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: You're the majority whip, and you blame Donald Trump for 194 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: what happened. 195 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 7: I certainly do, he said. He said exactly that, I'm 196 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 7: quoting him. Place the blame on me. He's the one 197 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 7: who stopped the negotiation, stopped any effort for bipartisanship. 198 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: So let's ignore him. 199 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 7: For a minute and solve the problem on a bipartisan basis. 200 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: Well, indeed is the majority whip you have a sense 201 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: of the votes. I wonder if we're going to see 202 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 2: a vote in the Senate, maybe even tonight, Senator on 203 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: this stop gap of budget plan that passed the minibus, 204 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: if we can call it that that passed the House. 205 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 2: Do you have work left tonight or is that tomorrow? 206 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 7: Tomorrow? 207 00:09:58,600 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 3: Will it pass? 208 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 7: I think it will. I think the strong bipartisan support 209 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 7: in the House is an indication of what's going to 210 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 7: happen in the Senate. 211 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: This is the beginning of the general election, as many 212 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: have called it. This is going to be Joe Biden 213 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: versus Donald Trump. Americans need to start getting their minds 214 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: around that. 215 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 7: Yes, they should, and it's important that they do, because 216 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 7: this is a clear choice between Biden and Trump. We've 217 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 7: seen this match before, but we understand the gravity of it. 218 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 7: After January sixth insurrection Mob, I mean, the violence that 219 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 7: President Trump initiated against this very building and the people 220 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 7: who work in it should not be easily forgotten. 221 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: Senator Dick Durbin, thank you for spending time with us 222 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: tonight on Bloomberg. 223 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 3: It's good to see you. 224 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: On the State of the Union evening, Kaylee I'll send 225 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 2: it back to you in the bureau, Joe. 226 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Of course, as we considered the 227 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 4: Senate moving forward on funding the government, there do remain 228 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 4: many open questions that Congress still have to deal with, 229 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 4: many of which the President spoke about this evening, not 230 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,359 Speaker 4: just including the bipartisan border measure that he was encouraging 231 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 4: be revived, if you will, after it was very quickly 232 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 4: killed shortly after the announcement, but also on the issue 233 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 4: of Ukraine. He touched as well on Israel, remembering that 234 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 4: funding for these two allies are wrapped together in a 235 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 4: supplemental national security package that has indeed passed the Senate 236 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 4: and Genie leading up to this speech, especially in light 237 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 4: of the fact that we were just talking about the 238 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 4: Unity Agenda, if you will, there's the question of unity 239 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 4: between the different parties. Sure, there's also the question of 240 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 4: unity within the party and within the Democratic Party. The 241 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 4: issue of Israel is perhaps one of the more divisive ones. 242 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 4: How do you think the President handled that tonight? Did 243 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 4: he do a good job of bridging the gap between 244 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 4: or bridging the divide if you will, from being supportive 245 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 4: of Israel but also trying to be supportive of Palestinian 246 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 4: life in Gaza. 247 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he's in a really tough position. He 248 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 5: is getting a lot of pushback from his own party, 249 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 5: as you mentioned, Kaylee. We even saw two members in 250 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 5: the House tonight hold up a sign to Demokratz saying 251 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 5: cease fire now. So he is getting that pushback. We 252 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 5: saw it on Super Tuesday with the number of uncommitteds 253 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 5: in places like Minnesota. So the president knows he's walking 254 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 5: this line. As he described himself in this speech, he 255 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 5: has been one of the closest friends of Israel for 256 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 5: most of his career, but at this point he is 257 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 5: trying to do both support Israel in their fight against 258 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 5: Thomas and also make the case that they have to 259 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 5: be cognizant of the impact they are having on innocent men, 260 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 5: women and children in Palestine. He took the number thirty 261 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 5: thousand dead according to the health ministry over there. That's 262 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 5: been conflicting a lot of people, and he said, we 263 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 5: are going to take steps to do better. I don't 264 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 5: know how it's going to play on the Democratic left. 265 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 5: This is an issue of real concern also to young people, 266 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 5: not just Arab Americans. 267 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 4: Well, and Genie as you mentioned we saw that uncommitted 268 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 4: vote showing up in Minnesota. We also show sought showing 269 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 4: up in Michigan first. And on that note, we are 270 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 4: joined now by a Congresswoman from Michigan. Representative Haley Stevens 271 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 4: is standing by with Joe. Joe. 272 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kaylie, we are here with Haley Stevens, who is 273 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: no stranger to this network and Congresswoman, it's great to 274 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: see you as a Democrat from Michigan supporting Joe Biden tonight. 275 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on his closing remarks about Israel. 276 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: He called for a two state solution coming off of 277 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 2: the uncommitted movement we've seen in your state in Minnesota 278 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: and others on Super Tuesday. 279 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: Did he say enough? 280 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: He absolutely said the right things on Israel tonight. And personally, 281 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: I'm here with liznov Tally, who is the great aunt 282 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: of four year old Abigail, who was taken hostage for 283 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: fifty days when she was three years old. She lost 284 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: both of her parents. There are so many other hostage 285 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: families in the room here tonight. And as the task 286 00:13:55,000 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: force co chair alongside Republican French Hill for American Hostages, 287 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: that was one of the most sobering pieces of his 288 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: really resounding and comprehensive speech, and it was a speech 289 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: of vision, and it was a speech of setting goals, 290 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: and what he said about getting to a two state 291 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: solution is still going to be the goal. There is 292 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: lots of pain, there's lots that we're navigating. A terrorist 293 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: operation in Gaza known as Hamas has not served its 294 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: people well, and we need to find peace and that 295 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: will come when Hamas surrenders. 296 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: You disappointed he was not able to announce the ceasefire 297 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: ar tonight. 298 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: That was a hope of the administration. 299 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: Well, I know he's worked so hard. He's working with 300 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, he's working alongside Israel. Certainly they presented it 301 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: a deal, it was rejected by Hamas. We need answers. 302 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: We need these remaining hostages over one hundred, one hundred 303 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: and fifty three days there to come home. That was 304 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: an attack on humanity. And we also need to see 305 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: aid delivered to Palestinians, which the President made a point of. 306 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: We know that Hamas is preventing aid from coming in. 307 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: We know that where this conflict is as well, is 308 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: preventing aid for innocent Palestinians. Mothers and children. And so 309 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: that's why he said, we're setting up a special envoy 310 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: in the sea to make sure that aid gets delivered 311 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: with no American troops, certainly on the ground of Gaza. 312 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: We of course waiting for the Republican response to the 313 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: president's address before we wrap up this evening. Sean Fain 314 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: from the UAW was with the first lady tonight called 315 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: out by Joe Biden. We've talked about this before, Congresswoman. 316 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: The rank and file in this Union, in many cases, 317 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: are voting for Donald Trump. What's the message that they 318 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: heard tonight from this president or that you hope they heard. 319 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: Well, certainly he delivered a very strong and resounding commitment 320 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: to American manufacturing, to solving supply chain issues, to investing 321 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: in education and skills training. But here's the thing. Joe 322 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: Biden's coming to Michigan next week. He's going to be 323 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: digging deep. He's going to be making sure that these 324 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: union members know who he is, that he's the tough 325 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: guy in the room, and he's also the honest guy 326 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: in the room that has a commitment to protecting freedoms, 327 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: to standing up for job creation and making sure that 328 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: our middle class is at the table. Why we do it, 329 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: and that's why Sean Paine was here tonight. I was 330 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: so thrilled to see him get a shout out. Can't 331 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: wait to have the president back in Michigan. 332 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: Well, come talk to us again when you get back 333 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: to Michigan, congresswoman, and it's great to see you. Heavy Stevens, 334 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: the Democrat from Michigan with us as part of our 335 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: special coverage here, Kayley, this is the message that starts now, 336 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: Rick and Genie. We're talking about this not just members 337 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: of the cabinet, but the president's Democratic allies fan out 338 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: across the country to deliver this message starting tomorrow. 339 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 4: Absolutely as we are now, for all intents and purposes, 340 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 4: in the general election in President Biden is very likely 341 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 4: to be up against former President Donald Trump eight months 342 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 4: from now on the ballot in November. And on that point, 343 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 4: we did have reaction to the former president during the 344 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 4: course of the State of the Union speech, and Donald 345 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 4: Trump points out Rick, it took him over twenty minutes 346 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 4: to get to immigration then, in Trump's words, said nothing 347 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 4: about it. Did he say enough about this subject this evening? 348 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 4: Is the former president right? 349 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 6: Well, we were wondering if anybody was going to sleep 350 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 6: through the speech, and it's pretty clear maybe President Trump did. 351 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 6: I think that the piece on immigration was very interesting, 352 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 6: and I thought one of the most engaging parts because 353 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 6: it was where he actually took up a discussion directly 354 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 6: with Marjorie Taylor Green Yes and engaged with her. And 355 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 6: it was an ad lib portion of the speech, and 356 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 6: she was pushing in a very aggressive way for him 357 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 6: to say Lake and Riley's name, right, say the name. 358 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 6: The pin that he had taken from her as he 359 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 6: came into the hall was next to his dais and 360 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 6: he picked it up and held it up and he 361 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 6: said the name. 362 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 3: And he did something that I think. 363 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 6: Is going to create a little bit of a backlash. 364 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 6: So he may have said a lot more than Donald 365 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 6: Trump thought he did, and that was he referred to 366 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 6: illegals and that was a name, that was a term 367 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 6: that he hasn't really used in reference to migrants coming 368 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 6: across the border. And we already see across the internet 369 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 6: some of the more progressive groups within his coalition basically 370 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 6: pushing back over this portion of the speech. So what's 371 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 6: interesting is Donald Trump and the progressives in the Democratic 372 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 6: wing seemed to have something in common, which is the 373 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 6: President sounded more conservative by defending the bill in the 374 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 6: Senate that didn't get a hearing in the House, and 375 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 6: that was something that always ruffled the feathers of the 376 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 6: Democrats in the House too. So I think that's going 377 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 6: to be one of the things we're talking about for 378 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 6: days to come, is this sort of very aggressive approach 379 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 6: he took on immigration in this speech. 380 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: I'm Jill Matthew and Statutory Hall in the House of Representatives. 381 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 2: Having just heard from the President and Senator britt were 382 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 2: joined now by Congressman Bryan Style, the Republican from Wisconsin, 383 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: was in the room, a member of the Financial Services 384 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: Committee here in the House and chair of the Admin Committee. 385 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: Congressman Style, it's great to see you. Where to begin 386 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: after a response like that. You were in the room 387 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: for Joe Biden's address. Did he speak to you as 388 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: a Republican lawmaker when he talked about his unity agenda? 389 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 8: I think the President really missed the opportunity to speak 390 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 8: with emotion, as Senator Britch just did about two of 391 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 8: the most important issues of the day, the way that 392 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 8: illegal immigration is impacting American families across the country and 393 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 8: the way that inflation cumulatively seventeen percent is impacting families' 394 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 8: ability to afford the things that they need. I think 395 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 8: his comments on the economic policies are pretty disingenuous at times, 396 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 8: commenting about the size of a Snickers bar or the 397 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 8: amount of chips in a bag, rather than talking about 398 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 8: the way that things being seventeen percent more expensive than 399 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 8: when he took office are impacting families who are struggling 400 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 8: to get by. 401 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: You know, we talk about inflation a lot when you're 402 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: on with us. Congressman Jay Powell testified the last two 403 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: days on Capitol Hill, and he seemed to be pretty 404 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 2: optimistic about the fight against inflation to the point where 405 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 2: we're talking about interest rate cuts at some point this year. 406 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: Would that not be a sign of success in that fight? 407 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 8: Inflation is come down, but the cumulative impact on families 408 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 8: is still quite real. 409 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 3: You come to a grocery store. 410 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 8: In Wisconsin at the checkout counter with me and you'll 411 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 8: hear time and again that families are struggling to be 412 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 8: able to affward the things that they need. We've made 413 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 8: progress on the fight against inflation, but we're still dealing 414 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 8: with the fact that this administration spent trillions of dollars 415 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 8: after the end of the pandemic. 416 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: Will you be on the trail in this campaign to 417 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 2: help Donald Trump deliver his message. 418 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 8: Wisconsin's going to be front and center in the contrast 419 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 8: and policy between President Biden and President Trump. Couldn't be 420 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 8: more clear. The President doubled down on his policies of 421 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 8: keeping the US Mexico border unsecure and refusing to address 422 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 8: the fact that inflation is clabboring families across the country. 423 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: Congressman Brian's style Republican from Wisconsin. We thank you for 424 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 2: the insights, Kayley. That's just a sense of the Republican 425 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: response here in the room to what we heard from 426 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 2: the president tonight and that speech that lasted over an hour. 427 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 3: His big opportunity between now and the convention. 428 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and we want to get final thoughts now with 429 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 4: our political panel, Rick Davis and Jeanie Shanzano, who are 430 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 4: back with me here in Washington. Rick, just quickly, does 431 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 4: President Biden leave tonight in a better position than he 432 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 4: entered it? 433 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 434 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 6: Absolutely, he was able to start the campaign with a 435 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 6: full annunciation of his priorities for the general election. It's democracy, 436 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 6: abortion rights, the economy, and infrastructure. He's ready to take 437 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 6: it to Donald Trump. Katie Brick gave the response, that's 438 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 6: the Donald Trump campaign. 439 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 4: Genie, your thoughts. 440 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think performance wise, Joe Biden did everything he 441 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 5: needed to do. Republicans who were hoping that he makes 442 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 5: an error have to be disappointed because he did not, 443 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 5: and Democrats seem to be widely enthusiastic. He is the 444 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 5: Joe Biden they wanted to see. He was interacting with members, 445 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 5: he was open, he was energetic. So a good performance 446 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 5: night for Joe Biden. 447 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 4: All right, Jeanie Schanzano and Rick Davis, thank you so 448 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 4: much for being with us on the State of the 449 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 4: Union evening. 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