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Speaker 2: as we always do every Monday, best and Worst of
Speaker 2: the weekend. What you saw that you liked you didn't like?
Speaker 2: Operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. Dylan
Speaker 2: will have the poll question. Today, we'll hear from Tim Kirchin,
Speaker 2: the great baseball insider, historian, reporter from the Mothership. He'll
Speaker 2: join us in about twenty minutes from now. We'll talk
Speaker 2: about to No one's surprised the Dodgers get Trek Skouble.
Speaker 2: I think the surprise might have been, are you giving
Speaker 2: up big time talent to get him? And I think
Speaker 2: the general consensus was could other teams have done this? Probably?
Speaker 2: But here's the problem with that. Trek Scugble had the
Speaker 2: leverage by saying he wanted to go to the Dodgers
Speaker 2: wanted to go to the West Coast. Therefore, you took
Speaker 2: away a lot of the leverage that maybe the Tigers
Speaker 2: would have had of what they got in return. The
Speaker 2: key will be moving forward, the kind of contract Trek
Speaker 2: Scouble is going to want, And of course looming large
Speaker 2: is is there going to be a lockout at some point?
Speaker 2: Do we lose a baseball season? Do we look back
Speaker 2: on Trek's scuoble and go That's when we finally decided
Speaker 2: we had to do something. Get a salary cap. I'm okay.
Speaker 2: If you want to do a salary cap, if you're
Speaker 2: going to have a floor that's raised as well, I
Speaker 2: think you got to be fair to the amount of
Speaker 2: money that the owners are making. The players Association is
Speaker 2: going to be. If you're having a salary cap, you've
Speaker 2: got to at least raise the floor so we know
Speaker 2: that you're going to have salaries that are at least
Speaker 2: commensurate to other teams in the league. Now, you can
Speaker 2: spend money stupidly like the Mets did, It's not the
Speaker 2: Dodgers know how to do this. Organizationally, that's what separates them.
Speaker 2: You can have a really good minor league system. You
Speaker 2: can also go out and spend for free agents, you
Speaker 2: you know, trades. They've done everything, and you've got a
Speaker 2: brilliant front office who found a way to circumvent the
Speaker 2: salary cap and the rest of the baseball hierarchy here.
Speaker 2: So I applaud them for what they did. If I'm
Speaker 2: a Dodger fan, that's what I want my ownership to do.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Am I worried about the rest of baseball? I guess
Speaker 2: if you said, hey, you know what, because of this,
Speaker 2: the way your team is, this is what's going to
Speaker 2: happen in the meantime. Hey, I'm riding the merry go round.
Speaker 2: This is great. I wonder if Shoheo Tani's injuries may
Speaker 2: have led to the Dodgers saying we have to have
Speaker 2: Trek Skoubel. It's not a situation of hey, this would
Speaker 2: be luxury item. It might be something that they truly need.
Speaker 2: And keep this in mind, for all the spending the
Speaker 2: Dodgers had, how close did the Blue Jays come to
Speaker 2: winning the World Series last year? When you are in
Speaker 2: a seven game series and all it takes is one
Speaker 2: pitcher or two pitchers to get hot, or one bat
Speaker 2: or two bats to get hot, and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden things change. So yes, the Dodgers prohibitive favorites even
Speaker 2: before the trade deadline. By the way, later today is
Speaker 2: the trade deadline. But if you're looking at World Series odds, yes,
Speaker 2: the Dodgers are prohibitive favorites at plus one fifty, the
Speaker 2: Yankees at plus six hundred. That's really it. Then it
Speaker 2: goes down to the Brewers at plus one thousand, the
Speaker 2: Braves plus one thousand, the Rays plus fourteen hundred. So yes,
Speaker 2: is it top heavy with the Yankees and the Dodgers, Yes,
Speaker 2: it is. But I thought the Brewer is going to
Speaker 2: try to jump in. And if you put Trek Skouble
Speaker 2: with miss Rowski, look out, because then you can take
Speaker 2: on anybody if you have two hammers like that. I
Speaker 2: always go back to Randy Johnson and Kirk Shilling when
Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks had them. They had hammers and you had
Speaker 2: to deal with them. But back then, pictures were going
Speaker 2: seven to eight, maybe even nine innings. Obviously the game
Speaker 2: has changed and the Dodgers, the Dodgers did what I
Speaker 2: thought they were going to do. I'm wondering if they're
Speaker 2: done at the trade deadline, but we'll talk to Tim Kirchin.
Speaker 2: He'll join us. Coming up. All right, Dylan. Poll question
Speaker 2: for the first hour is going to be, what, well.
Speaker 4: If you had to bet on the World Series winner today,
Speaker 4: are you taking the Dodgers or the field.
Speaker 2: I'll take the field. I'll take the field. I'm not
Speaker 2: fully committed to that, but for content purposes only, I
Speaker 2: would take the field. I just I've been around this
Speaker 2: too long where you just see something in you go.
Speaker 2: I didn't think that was going to happen. Now. Do
Speaker 2: I expect the Dodgers to win, Yes, but can you
Speaker 2: see where something happens?
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, PAULI the fact that you.
Speaker 5: Had to pause before picking the field, It's like the
Speaker 5: field should be the pick. But the Dodgers of that
Speaker 5: threatening there, they're removing any possibility for an injury that
Speaker 5: messes them up. They could afford them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's really the key that if
Speaker 2: Shoheutani can't pitch again, or they're not going to pitch him, Okay,
Speaker 2: problem solved. I bring in Trek Scouble. They already got
Speaker 2: the line up there. They're outscoring the opposition by what's
Speaker 2: the number now, Pauli.
Speaker 5: The Dodgers have outscored their opponents by one hundred and
Speaker 5: fifty runs this year. There's only two teams that are
Speaker 5: over one hundred and five of They're always one of them.
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Speaker 2: Dylan Possible pull questions for Hour one.
Speaker 4: A simple one. Are you in favor of a salary
Speaker 4: cap in baseball?
Speaker 3: Yes or no?
Speaker 4: And does this change the Scooble to the Dodgers thing
Speaker 4: influence you in that way?
Speaker 2: I would think that everybody is going to be in
Speaker 2: favor unless you're a Dodger fan. For the salary cap.
Speaker 2: The Players Association wouldn't be in favor of it. But
Speaker 2: I think as a sports fan, if you look at
Speaker 2: the NBA and you've had eight different winners the last
Speaker 2: eight years, if that's what you want, instead of when
Speaker 2: I was growing up, you always had that team. You
Speaker 2: had to beat that team. There was always the dynasty,
Speaker 2: whether it was the UCLA Bruins or you know, I
Speaker 2: grew up with a big red machine. You know, there
Speaker 2: was the Steel Curtain. You had that team you set
Speaker 2: your sights on and say we got to be better
Speaker 2: than them. You might be kind of parody. Everybody has
Speaker 2: a chance. The NFL gives you that every single year.
Speaker 2: So I would say most people outside of the player
Speaker 2: Association and Dodger fans would be in favor of a
Speaker 2: salary cap.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, you know, like you said that, the salary
Speaker 5: floor has got to be more important because if you're
Speaker 5: a Pirates fan, I just looked at the Pirate's history.
Speaker 5: They made the postseason three times in the past thirty
Speaker 5: three years. That's that's less than ten percent. You got
Speaker 5: to get a chance to have a chance.
Speaker 2: Well, the Dodgers, they are now paying one hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty million dollars in luxury text that's more than twelve
Speaker 2: total team's entire payroll. So there is a problem with that.
Speaker 3: It sounded like a stat of the day.
Speaker 6: Maybe you were just letting it breathe Is that what
Speaker 6: you were doing the anticipation there. I don't know if
Speaker 6: you were still going or not, but I was ready.
Speaker 2: Okay, I made eye contact with you. I was, you know,
Speaker 2: like laser focused those blue eyes. Yeah, well yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, so we'll come up with the pole question.
Speaker 2: Phone calls is always with best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 2: I do have updated odds. By the way, Dylan will
Speaker 2: be betting on the Hall of Fame game on the
Speaker 2: next gambling podcast, right, yes, sir, okay, the Panthers are
Speaker 2: favored by one and a half over the Cardinals and
Speaker 2: the over unders thirty six and a half.
Speaker 3: Just let you know.
Speaker 2: And yes, I used to bet on preseason football. I
Speaker 2: used to bet on the Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 3: Oh I was. That was sad. That's very sad.
Speaker 6: Yes, Marmon, how low did you have to go preseason football?
Speaker 2: I know, but you're so you're only energize for football,
Speaker 2: you're waiting for it, and you're like, all right, preseason football,
Speaker 2: And you know, I've got depth charts. I'm thinking who's playing,
Speaker 2: how long they're playing, starters aren't playing, how good's their
Speaker 2: second string? You know, quarterback, running back, all of that stuff. No,
Speaker 2: Sad really said, Yes, Daling, you.
Speaker 4: Could argue that that's the sharp play. Like the best
Speaker 4: run I ever went on betting was I had a
Speaker 4: time where I was all over the preseason hockey point
Speaker 4: totals said.
Speaker 3: They weren't.
Speaker 2: Man all of a sudden, Brendan Sorosby doesn't look.
Speaker 5: That bad, you know, yes, Bowen, which is worse betting
Speaker 5: on the Hall of Fame game or being cited that
Speaker 5: your team wins the Hall of Fame game like a
Speaker 5: fan base was like, if I'm a Cardinal fan, you
Speaker 5: know we.
Speaker 3: Won that game fourteen thirteen.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm just saying, if I'm a Cardinal fan,
Speaker 2: I'll take any victory like a scrimmage. Hey, you know what,
Speaker 2: we beat the Commanders.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, Mark, No, don't do that because the Lions
Speaker 6: won all four of their preseason games and then win
Speaker 6: oh to sixteen. So I'm not sure if they want
Speaker 6: to do that.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: Speaking of football, Sean McVay at his press conference was
Speaker 2: talking about the possibility of Aaron Donald returning.
Speaker 8: Hey, here's what I would tell you. There won't be
Speaker 8: any news on that front until we get back to Woodland.
Speaker 2: Hills.
Speaker 8: You know, we have some different things, which you know,
Speaker 8: I know, I totally understand. What I don't want to
Speaker 8: do is put there's some conversations that we've had, We've
Speaker 8: loosely had some different timelines that are kind of temporary.
Speaker 8: I want to keep those between us, just you know,
Speaker 8: if something unforeseen happens, out of respect for him in
Speaker 8: the situation. But I know this, you know, the things
Speaker 8: are going in the right direction, and if there's an arrow,
Speaker 8: it's trending upwards.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm even surprised that he's talking that much
Speaker 2: about this because it feels like, now, do I think
Speaker 2: something's going to happen, Yes, I do. I think that
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald will play Because he's saying it's trending upward.
Speaker 2: I think you have an idea, a sense of this.
Speaker 2: If I'm Aaron Donald, I don't want to go to
Speaker 2: camp any sooner than I have to. But if I'm
Speaker 2: Sean McVay, I would probably take the approach of, hey,
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the players who were here
Speaker 2: instead of the hypothetical, because then people will you know,
Speaker 2: you're going to write down his words, record his words,
Speaker 2: and then play the words back to him and what happened.
Speaker 2: So I think staying off the topic, even though he's
Speaker 2: excited about the possibility, I would probably remove myself from
Speaker 2: the hypothetical of Aaron Donald just say, you know, I
Speaker 2: got to set a deadline at some point. I think
Speaker 2: when they go back from training camp, then he's going
Speaker 2: to have something to say, and I think that it
Speaker 2: probably will be that Aaron Donald is going to come back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, PAULI, the deadline for Aaron Donald should be during
Speaker 5: the national anthem in week one. If he walks on
Speaker 5: the field shirtless, I'd put him in the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's gonna play. It feels like there's
Speaker 2: I haven't heard any setbacks. I haven't heard anything of
Speaker 2: you know what, there's a chance that maybe he's not
Speaker 2: coming back. But I do think that when you can
Speaker 2: hear it in his voice, you can hear it in
Speaker 2: his voice that he's having some fun with this. He's
Speaker 2: excited about this, and rightfully. So all right, we'll take
Speaker 2: a break. We'll talk to Tim Kirkchin about the situation,
Speaker 2: not only with the Dodgers, and any other moves that
Speaker 2: were made or weren't made, and why or why not.
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Speaker 2: settle on our poll question. Your phone calls always welcome,
Speaker 2: best and worst to the weekend. Here's Dodger manager Dave
Speaker 2: Roberts on criticism regarding the trade for Terry Skooble.
Speaker 11: There's it just seems like there's always blowback with us.
Speaker 11: People are passionate. We feel good about it. There's nothing
Speaker 11: that we did that no one else couldn't have done.
Speaker 11: You know, I just lot our front office or you know,
Speaker 11: we have to have the players to be able to
Speaker 11: pull something like this off, and you know we still
Speaker 11: got you know, partly one of the top two or
Speaker 11: three or one or two or three farm systems in baseball,
Speaker 11: you know, a day later. So it's a credit to
Speaker 11: a lot of people in this organization.
Speaker 2: He's right about that with the farms to have the
Speaker 2: pieces that you can trade away to get treks Scuuble.
Speaker 2: Tim Kirkchin, Tim Kirkchin, ESPN Baseball Trade Deadline, they have
Speaker 2: a special on the Mothership from four to six Eastern.
Speaker 2: Tim will be there with Jeff Pass Andbuster only at
Speaker 2: Wardo Perez and Kevin Conners the trade deadline six pm Eastern.
Speaker 2: All right, Timmy, where do you stand on what the
Speaker 2: Dodgers pulled off here with trek Scuble?
Speaker 12: How a problem with this? I mean, is it healthy Dan,
Speaker 12: that the payroll disparities is what it is in the
Speaker 12: major leagues right now? No, it's not healthy. But that's
Speaker 12: not the Dodgers fault. A lot of other teams are
Speaker 12: spending a lot of money. And people don't like to
Speaker 12: hear this, but the Dodgers are an exceptionally run organization.
Speaker 12: They draft and develop better than most teams, They teach
Speaker 12: better than most teams, so they were in a position
Speaker 12: to do this and a lot and Dave Roberts is right,
Speaker 12: a lot of other teams could have gone out and
Speaker 12: gotten trek skouble with the understanding of course they have
Speaker 12: the resources and the money that other teams don't have.
Speaker 12: But when it comes to the resources, they've built that
Speaker 12: organization so well, that's how they have a really, really
Speaker 12: good farm system them are able to make a deal
Speaker 12: like this.
Speaker 2: Does getting schooball now give the Dodgers a luxury of
Speaker 2: not having to pitch Otani at any time over the
Speaker 2: next month or so.
Speaker 12: Yes, I think it does, and I think they want him.
Speaker 12: I know they want him to pitch in October. But
Speaker 12: when you get Blake Snell back, and you have Snell
Speaker 12: and Yamamoto and Scooble, and when they get Tyler glass
Speaker 12: Now back and they have Rokisuzaki, it's it's one hundred
Speaker 12: miles an hour with a great split. That's already five
Speaker 12: guys right there without Otani. Now they want Otani to pitch.
Speaker 12: I think Otani will pitch before the end of the season,
Speaker 12: But this indeed gives them the opportunity to say we
Speaker 12: need him as a great offensive player, and if pitching
Speaker 12: is in any way going to get in the way
Speaker 12: of that, we don't have to pitch him because we
Speaker 12: just acquired the best pitcher in the American League.
Speaker 3: How do the Dodgers not win the World Series?
Speaker 12: Well, Dan, you played both sports, and you recognize that
Speaker 12: anything can happen in baseball. And you have the best
Speaker 12: players on a basketball team and they work really well together,
Speaker 12: and Michael and Larry touch it on every possession. That's
Speaker 12: different than in baseball because Show is only in about
Speaker 12: four or five times a game, and they might not
Speaker 12: pitch to him. But I think the Dodgers are the
Speaker 12: clear favorites to win the World Series again, in part
Speaker 12: because their roster is just so ridiculously deep, and now
Speaker 12: they're pitching staff is equally deep.
Speaker 2: Let's get to the expensive elephant in the room about
Speaker 2: what this is going to mean for baseball as we
Speaker 2: move forward and the CBA and Players Association and all
Speaker 2: that mess that we know is looming here. Tim.
Speaker 12: Yeah, mess is a good word for it, Dan, and
Speaker 12: I am worried like everyone else that there will be
Speaker 12: a lockout, there will be games lost next year, we
Speaker 12: might lose the whole season let's hope none of that
Speaker 12: is true. But this, this is where we are right now.
Speaker 12: The two sides are really far apart. Wasn't that long
Speaker 12: ago Someone who would know told me never seen the
Speaker 12: side this far apart with a deadline looming this close.
Speaker 12: So let's just hope that everyone recognizes there is so
Speaker 12: much money to be lost in this game if we
Speaker 12: don't play by the players, hand by the owners, and
Speaker 12: maybe somehow someone will find a way to put this together.
Speaker 12: But if the owners think they're going to get a
Speaker 12: salary cap from the players, I just don't think that's
Speaker 12: going to happen. And that's why I think we're going
Speaker 12: to have a work stoppage at this point.
Speaker 2: But if you look at seventy percent of teams reinvest
Speaker 2: less than fifty percent of their revenue back into their
Speaker 2: own teams. The recent study had that. So is it
Speaker 2: a salary floor that we need more than we need
Speaker 2: a salary cap.
Speaker 12: I'm not even sure a floor fixes fixes the situation
Speaker 12: either day. Let's just say you have a ninety million
Speaker 12: dollar payroll and you're not very good and you're going
Speaker 12: to lose. You know, you're going to win sixty eight
Speaker 12: games and then they make you spend one hundred and
Speaker 12: fifty million, and then you win seventy two games, and
Speaker 12: you only finish four games higher, and you still don't
Speaker 12: make the playoffs. Just because you have a floor doesn't
Speaker 12: mean you're going to solve the problem. Is it worth
Speaker 12: a try? Yes, it's worth to try. Am I in
Speaker 12: favor of it, Yes, I am. But it's it's not
Speaker 12: going to solve all the problems. The problems are too
Speaker 12: big to be solved just by a salary floor.
Speaker 2: I thought about this. I saw this the anniversary nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty and I thought of you. The Tigers traded their manager,
Speaker 2: Jimmy Dike's to the Indians for their manager, Joe Gordon.
Speaker 2: I figured you would have a story or something to
Speaker 2: add to this. Knowing you, I'm.
Speaker 12: Not sure I have a manager for manager story. I
Speaker 12: was only three years old at the time, Dan, But
Speaker 12: it just goes to show you how beautiful this game
Speaker 12: is that just when you think you've seen everything, something
Speaker 12: else happened. It's just it's just the craziest, stupidest, best
Speaker 12: game her And it's going to be proven again today
Speaker 12: because something's gonna happen at the trade deadline. It's just
Speaker 12: going to make our us slap our foreheads like we
Speaker 12: do all the time. But that's why baseball is so great,
Speaker 12: is it's so unpredictable and I never know what's going
Speaker 12: to be around the corner. This year, I've been wrong
Speaker 12: Dan so many times about so many things, so many teams,
Speaker 12: and I'm not apologizing to anybody for it, because it
Speaker 12: just proves dead. The game is so beautiful, it's too
Speaker 12: good to be predicted. And Dan, it troubles me a
Speaker 12: little bit that we're trying to predict what a player
Speaker 12: is going to look like five years from now, or
Speaker 12: a team is going to look like five years from now,
Speaker 12: and we don't even know what's going to look like
Speaker 12: five minutes from now. That's just how the game operates.
Speaker 2: Are you surprised like I am that the mic cackage
Speaker 2: Fritz Peterson swapping wives they were teammates hasn't been made
Speaker 2: into a movie yet.
Speaker 12: And they swapped the show You're too Dad, imagine doing that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just yes, they were to be named
Speaker 2: children be named later.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 13: For a fifth.
Speaker 12: Grader to be named later. No, I'm shocked that more
Speaker 12: wasn't made out of that at the time. Magine, Dan,
Speaker 12: if something like that were to happen today with Twitter
Speaker 12: ex whatever it's called, the Internet, all that stuff, it
Speaker 12: would be total bedlam. Yes, I think at some point
Speaker 12: someone needs to make a movie about that, because it
Speaker 12: actually happened between major League baseball players.
Speaker 2: Thanks for squeezing us in. I know you're busy, safe travels,
Speaker 2: Thank you, Timmy all right, Dan, see it. That's Tim
Speaker 2: Kirkchin of the Mothership. They got their trade deadline special
Speaker 2: from four to six eastern tonight, Jeff Passen, Buster Olney
Speaker 2: at Wardo Perez, Kevin Connors in the studio and the
Speaker 2: trade deadline at sixth Eastern. I know that we've had
Speaker 2: Matt Damon on and he and Ben Affleck. I think
Speaker 2: we're looking circling that project of the two Yankee pitchers
Speaker 2: who basically traded families. Amazing. I think that was nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy one, Fritz Peterson and Mike Keckage, and I think
Speaker 2: one of the two stayed married the other one's marriage
Speaker 2: broke up, but they traded kids too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paully, you can look up this story and you
Speaker 5: can see, like the New York Times page a sports
Speaker 5: page the next day, it's a real headline and it's
Speaker 5: out there. It happened in nineteen seventy three, after the
Speaker 5: trade deadline Dan by the way, which seems to be
Speaker 5: a violation. But yeah, about ten years ago, Matt Damon
Speaker 5: and Ben Affleck talk to some of the people involved
Speaker 5: about making a movie. It's stalled a little bit, but
Speaker 5: this has to happen.
Speaker 2: It just feels like if you said to somebody, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about two teammates and they traded their families,
Speaker 2: and you'd go, well, nobody's going to buy into that. Well,
Speaker 2: it happened in nineteen seventy three. A couple of phone
Speaker 2: calls here lead us off. Gust In la I guess
Speaker 2: you got to be feeling good today.
Speaker 14: Good morning, mister Patrick. Hope you and the boys had
Speaker 14: a great weekend. Will Aside from I had the worst
Speaker 14: of the weekend before the best of the weekend Saturday afternoon,
Speaker 14: I unfortunately had a break. Heel break held radialis tear
Speaker 14: you ever.
Speaker 12: Heard of that?
Speaker 3: I tore It sounds painful.
Speaker 14: I tore the tendon in my forearm that pretty much
Speaker 14: goes down to the wrist, not allowing me to properly
Speaker 14: grip anything or rotate my wrist without excruciating pain. So
Speaker 14: I'm dealing with that. And then Saturday night, that's when
Speaker 14: the real fun kicked in. When I saw that the
Speaker 14: Dodgers acquired arguably the best picture in baseball for apparently
Speaker 14: three people that the Brewery than the Braves could not
Speaker 14: find in their farm system. That is when I saw
Speaker 14: how soft Major League baseball fans have become. I'm sorry,
Speaker 14: when did it become that it was our fault that
Speaker 14: the Boston Red Sox called up the Dodgers and said, Hey,
Speaker 14: can we have mookie bets in exchange for two in
Speaker 14: and out burgers? Hey, Atlanta, you know they didn't care
Speaker 14: about Freddie Freeman, they let him walk. Is it the Dodgers'
Speaker 14: fault that showhil Tony went back to the Angels and said, Hey,
Speaker 14: the Dodgers are offer me this, can you guys match it? Please?
Speaker 14: No enjoy the drive up to five. When did it
Speaker 14: become we were the villains in all of this? When
Speaker 14: baseball owners around the league make almost as much as
Speaker 14: the other owners do, but all of a sudden, it's
Speaker 14: our fault that we're the ones that are taking advantage
Speaker 14: of the opportunities that we have it's not our fault.
Speaker 14: You guys need to turn back, look at your owners
Speaker 14: and say, hey, why can't we do that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you guys. Sorry about the injury,
Speaker 2: but hopefully you're healing. With Trek Scubel on the mound.
Speaker 2: You start to look at this and you go find
Speaker 2: the Brewers or the Rays. Okay, maybe I can't keep
Speaker 2: Trek's scouble But how important is this season? How good
Speaker 2: is your team that you might have a chance. And
Speaker 2: I think that's the key. Just get to the World Series.
Speaker 2: Like if you're an American League team, just get there. Yes,
Speaker 2: you'll probably meet up against the Dodgers. But if you
Speaker 2: can take schoobl away from the Dodgers, maybe I have
Speaker 2: a chance when you get there. And I think that's
Speaker 2: the important part with this. I'm looking at the guys
Speaker 2: the Dodgers gave up. I think two of the prospects
Speaker 2: are top forty prospects.
Speaker 3: But there are other.
Speaker 2: Teams that had some players that maybe you could trade
Speaker 2: if it's important.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: For the Dodgers, every year is important, and yes, do
Speaker 2: they have the resources. I know that, but they treat
Speaker 2: every year as a lost opportunity. If we don't win
Speaker 2: the World Series other teams. The Yankees used to be
Speaker 2: that way lost opportunity. Now they're just hoping to get back.
Speaker 2: Thank you Gus Chris and Syracuse. Hi Chris, what do
Speaker 2: you have for me?
Speaker 7: Hey?
Speaker 15: Thanks Dany, I had a couple of bass and worse
Speaker 15: for you. Best of Fernando Mendoz's comments about Kirk Cousins
Speaker 15: being the number one quarterback going into training camp. His
Speaker 15: self awareness and humility is awesome and I hope the
Speaker 15: Raiders don't completely hand over the reins till to Mendoz
Speaker 15: until they shore up that offensive line. And another best
Speaker 15: to Jay Davian Clowney signing with the Texans yesterday. How
Speaker 15: many more contracts is that guy going to get? It
Speaker 15: seems like he's been around forever and it looks like
Speaker 15: he manned up ending his career where it started twelve
Speaker 15: thirteen years ago. And the worse bicker Mayfield this weekend
Speaker 15: talking about a Netflix in Omaha Productions, which I think
Speaker 15: is Peyton manning. This an upcoming series which supposedly is
Speaker 15: a behind the scenes look at some NFL quarterbacks this year,
Speaker 15: and Mayfield said that the quarterbacks have beatle power over
Speaker 15: any part of the content they don't want to air.
Speaker 15: So that's the case, how can it be a behind
Speaker 15: the scenes look and fans now knowing the content is edited,
Speaker 15: I think it will hurt viewership. And lastly, Friday night,
Speaker 15: the Big Ten and SEC both jumping on board with
Speaker 15: the idea of passing the Senate built to regulate college football,
Speaker 15: and Dan Hurley also this weekend saying in a colorful way,
Speaker 15: college sports needs to be saved, but I hope not
Speaker 15: by the federal government.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Chris. Yeah, Friday was fascinating. From what I'm
Speaker 2: told by a source that President Trump got directly involved
Speaker 2: on Friday, notifying the SEC and Big Ten that if
Speaker 2: they didn't fall in line supporting this bill, he would
Speaker 2: make it clear to the American people how all of
Speaker 2: college sports's ills were their problems. He said he would
Speaker 2: hit them hard and repeatedly. So you got the SEC
Speaker 2: and the Big Ten that they are playing nice. I
Speaker 2: think all the conferences want this to happen. And once
Speaker 2: again they didn't mind their own business. They needed help,
Speaker 2: and that's why they're going to Congress because it got
Speaker 2: out of hand. It got out of hand quickly, and
Speaker 2: there was nothing they could do. Now they're hoping Congress
Speaker 2: is going to be able to help them help college athletics.
Speaker 2: Solomon in La, Hi Solomon, what's on your mind?
Speaker 7: Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 7: doctor fan here. You know the slings and arrows are
Speaker 7: coming today. So I got three things to say. Number One,
Speaker 7: in the last twenty years, two of the top payroll
Speaker 7: teams of Wonder World Series two. Okay, three under the
Speaker 7: top ten Wonder World Series number two. Oh, the Dodgers
Speaker 7: they got the money. Yeah, Steve Cohen has a multi
Speaker 7: billionaire Howard the Met's doing. And number three, it's not
Speaker 7: just the money, it's how you spend it and give
Speaker 7: me if you spend a lot of money. The Boston
Speaker 7: the Red Sox just came in and swept the Dodgers,
Speaker 7: So there you go. They may not be sitting always
Speaker 7: on top of the mountain, and you can always get
Speaker 7: knocked off. So I'm happy the Dodgers got him. Moving forward,
Speaker 7: it looks good and let's see what happens. You play
Speaker 7: the game on the field.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Solomon, you have I mean Andrew Friedman pulled
Speaker 2: this off when he was with Tampa. He made great
Speaker 2: moves and didn't have money. You have to have smart
Speaker 2: baseball people. It's not just Steve Cohen's like, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: buy a winner and then what's that look like? Now
Speaker 2: now you're selling off parts. I think you have to
Speaker 2: have some kind of game plan here. Yes you do
Speaker 2: have money. Yes you have to be smart and say
Speaker 2: to show Autani, hey would you defer this money? And
Speaker 2: he's willing to do that, you know, getting Freddy Freeman
Speaker 2: getting Mookie bets. The Braves aren't going to resign anymore.
Speaker 2: The Red Sox are willing to trade Mookie. You know,
Speaker 2: they've taken advantage of a lot of different teams, but
Speaker 2: I think they've done it in a smart way. It's
Speaker 2: not just we're gonna come in and bulldoze you. Yes, Marvin, You.
Speaker 6: Even look back at the nineties Yankees when they were
Speaker 6: winning championships, those four World Series titles, they had homegrown
Speaker 6: talent Posada Jeter, Mariann Rivera, Bernie Williams. Even when they
Speaker 6: had all those big name Giambi a Rod even to
Speaker 6: share a Cci. They won one World Series when he
Speaker 6: really started spending a boatload of cash. So it doesn't
Speaker 6: guarantee you anything. Really like a good pharmacism and having
Speaker 6: a good, well run organization.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: And people talk about the Yankees, they had homegrown talent.
Speaker 2: The difference was they were able to keep the homegrown talent.
Speaker 2: Most like the Pirates have homegrown talent, they can't keep them.
Speaker 2: The Yankees were able to spend that money on Jeter
Speaker 2: and Posada Marianna. That's the difference. We can grow them,
Speaker 2: but can we keep them? And most teams can't keep
Speaker 2: their talent.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, Yeah, I agree that other teams, lesser spending
Speaker 5: teams do have a chance to make the playoffs and
Speaker 5: win the World Series. But I think what really bums
Speaker 5: people out. If you're a sports fan of like again
Speaker 5: to bring into Pirates, you know, Paul Skins will not
Speaker 5: finish his career with your team. There's just a zero
Speaker 5: chance of it. He won't finish his twenties with your team.
Speaker 5: Two years from now or less, Paul Skins will be
Speaker 5: a Dodger or elsewhere unless he is just the anomaly
Speaker 5: that passes on millions. He has to do a Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I can't think of any other way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dodgers just made a smart move, that's all. And
Speaker 2: we saw it coming. But in granted, did they have
Speaker 2: leverage because Derek Schouobi wanted to go there. Yes, but team,
Speaker 2: you know, players are going to want to go to
Speaker 2: that team. They're going to want to play because you're
Speaker 2: playing for championships. And that's a testament to what they've done,
Speaker 2: what they've grown. But they came with it in an
Speaker 2: eyelash of not winning the World Series. I don't think
Speaker 2: it's a four gune conclusion, but I thought some of
Speaker 2: these teams. Now I'm looking at the payrolls. So the
Speaker 2: Dodgers right now the best odds. They have the number
Speaker 2: two payroll. The Yankees they have the third payroll. Then
Speaker 2: it's the Brewers third best odds by the way, to
Speaker 2: win the World Series. They have the nineteenth payroll, Braves
Speaker 2: the sixth, followed by the Rays the twenty third highest payroll,
Speaker 2: then the Red Sox, Cubs, Phillies, Astros, and the Marlins.
Speaker 5: Yeah, poem, But if we want a salary cap and baseball,
Speaker 5: should we root for the Dodgers to win this year
Speaker 5: or root for, like if you don't a dog in
Speaker 5: the fight, the Brewers because they're lovable and they don't
Speaker 5: spend it time.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's hard to root for the Dodgers
Speaker 2: if you're saying, I'm going to root for the Dodgers
Speaker 2: just so they win the World Series and then we
Speaker 2: can tell everybody, the owners that we need salary cap right,
Speaker 2: I guess. But it's not like you know, you don't know.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers aren't the evil Empire like they have great
Speaker 2: personalities there. You can't help but love Dave Roberts. It's
Speaker 2: not one of those where like George Steinbrenner with the Yankees,
Speaker 2: hard to like, but he was brilliant at what he did,
Speaker 2: and you took your money and reinvested it in your team.
Speaker 2: That's what I want any other fan base, if you
Speaker 2: could trade your team for the Dodgers and their philosophy,
Speaker 2: their front office, you'd be like, yep, I'd do it.
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Speaker 2: the hour. I was looking at the twenty twenty four
Speaker 2: class of wide receivers. Remember this was the load with
Speaker 2: wide receivers class Marvin Harrison Junior, the third, Malik Neighbors,
Speaker 2: Roma Doonza, Brian Thomas Junior, Xavier Worthy, Ricky Pearsaw, Xavier
Speaker 2: leget Keon Coleman, Lad McConkie. Okay, how many out of
Speaker 2: that group hit Malik Neighbors coming back from an injury.
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior, he's not great. I think we expected
Speaker 2: him to be great. Fourth pick overall, Brian Thomas was
Speaker 2: a surprise and kind of a mixed bag. Now a
Speaker 2: doonsay with injuries, Xavier Worthy, Ricky Pearsaw's out for the year,
Speaker 2: Keon Coleman, Xavier leget Lad McConkie. So you do have
Speaker 2: some names there and still a chance to kind of resurface,
Speaker 2: as you know, the player of the talent we thought
Speaker 2: you were going to be. But that's the twenty twenty
Speaker 2: four loaded wide receiver class. That not exactly impressing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, PAULI, I went back and look at Marvin Harrison
Speaker 5: Junior's draft profile, and you know they always put weaknesses.
Speaker 5: The person analyzing said, we're really nitpicking here because there
Speaker 5: aren't any. This is one of our complete receivers ever
Speaker 5: to come out of college football. It was the sure
Speaker 5: thing of wide receivers like Trevor Lawrence was to quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Jadevian Clowney is back with the Texans and that defense
Speaker 2: is already the best in football with Daniel Hunter and
Speaker 2: Stingley and Will Anderson. But Clowney quietly had eight and
Speaker 2: a half sacks for the Cowboys last season. Now it
Speaker 2: comes down to c J. Stroud because David Montgomery, Nico Collins,
Speaker 2: Jayden Higgins, Tank Dell you got everything there. This could
Speaker 2: be a super Bowl caliber team. It's just you know, CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud can't lose games for you. Last year and the
Speaker 2: loss to the Patriots, he completed forty two percent of
Speaker 2: his passes, four interceptions, finish the postseason, two touchdowns, seven turnovers.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: Probably simplify it and just say you got to have
Speaker 2: a quality year. You know, I'm not asking for thirty
Speaker 2: five touchdowns, but if you can give me, I want
Speaker 2: to know the touchdown to interception and fumble ratio because
Speaker 2: if I can get good numbers there, I can't have
Speaker 2: my defense be putting us in a position to win.
Speaker 2: You're putting us in a position to lose. Yeapaul.
Speaker 12: CJ.
Speaker 5: Stroud is a rookie. Fifteen starts, forty one hundred yards,
Speaker 5: twenty three touchdowns. He was eighth for MVP as a
Speaker 5: rookie and cleaned up for Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 2: And you'll take those numbers if you play clean games.
Speaker 2: That's what you're asking for. You don't have to win them,
Speaker 2: just don't lose them. But I think the Texans Texan's
Speaker 2: going to be in that conversation for best team in
Speaker 2: the AFC.
Speaker 3: Really feel it.
Speaker 2: Buddha in San Francisco, Hi, Buddha, what do you have
Speaker 2: for me?
Speaker 10: Happy Monday? Boys, Let's go Dodger Nation. Baby, wasn't me Dan,
Speaker 10: or did Solomon in LA sound like Dave Roberts?
Speaker 3: That was wild?
Speaker 13: But my phone Dan on Saturday was blowing up.
Speaker 10: And when we when I saw that we acquired Terrek School,
Speaker 10: I just chuckled.
Speaker 13: It's like like us getting.
Speaker 10: Schoobls, like Warren Buffen finding one hundred dollars bill in
Speaker 10: the sidewalk man, and like to everyone who's upset about this,
Speaker 10: like he wanted to.
Speaker 13: Come and he picked us.
Speaker 10: You know, I mean, we still have to go out
Speaker 10: and play the games and win them.
Speaker 13: Nothing is promised, and it's not like we're.
Speaker 10: Out here banging on trash cans. Fritzy and best of
Speaker 10: the weekend, Dan, Los Angeles Avengers getting stronger and bolstering
Speaker 10: up their bullpen with tarre Scoobel and shout out to
Speaker 10: Dodger front house front the front office man in the
Speaker 10: farm system it's always been the class of the major
Speaker 10: leagues and worst of the weekend. Then w I mean,
Speaker 10: it's just been a bad summer for them. It's starting
Speaker 10: to feel like reality TV when some basketball games sprinkled
Speaker 10: in between.
Speaker 13: The drama that's going on all the time.
Speaker 3: It's just not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Buddhah Edgar and Anaheim Hi Edgar, what
Speaker 2: do you have for me?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 17: Dan, just want to let people you know, being a
Speaker 17: Dodger n it has no been glory. You know, I
Speaker 17: grew up in the nineties watching a horrible Dodger team
Speaker 17: year after year after your last place, last place.
Speaker 18: So this this nowadays, you know, everybody thinks it's easy,
Speaker 18: and that's not easy. Remember, we lost a bunch of
Speaker 18: World Series. We choked a lot. We were getting clown
Speaker 18: out every time by a bunch of fans all over baseball.
Speaker 18: So now that we're actually winning, we're getting a lot
Speaker 18: of hate that we're buying championship. We're not like this
Speaker 18: guy that they traded for goog Ball. We got him
Speaker 18: from Chicago Cubs. That was your hope. It wasn't even
Speaker 18: our draft pick. So it's management doing the job too.
Speaker 18: It's not all money money's not everything.
Speaker 13: Look at the Mets.
Speaker 18: The Mets, they're freaking horrible.
Speaker 2: Yes they are, Yes, the number one payroll in baseball,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if it's gonna get any better
Speaker 2: anytime soon. There, Adam and Michigan. Hi, Adam, what do
Speaker 2: you have for me?
Speaker 19: Hey? So, Gus and Buddha are not wrong about the Dodgers.
Speaker 19: The rest of the league just as malpractice. They are
Speaker 19: just phenomenally run and they're doing it like everybody should
Speaker 19: just like take notes. But going back to your conversation
Speaker 19: with Tim Kirchin, I had never heard about managers being
Speaker 19: traded like that, and that's mind blowing. Is there an
Speaker 19: NFL trade of two head coaches that we could love
Speaker 19: to see?
Speaker 14: Like you got to punter in on that.
Speaker 2: Who would be the number one coach or manager traded? Like,
Speaker 2: if you were going to trade a coach, Sean McVay
Speaker 2: would probably be high on that list. Mike McDonald, you
Speaker 2: just won a Super Bowl, yes, Marvin Andy Reid, Andy Reid, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Andy Reid n No. Too old as far as how
Speaker 2: long he meaning, I don't know how much time he's
Speaker 2: going to be coaching, right, I mean, he's too old.
Speaker 2: I mean you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I got you.
Speaker 2: He's coaching Old Todd. You're in the confessional. Start us
Speaker 2: off on this Monday best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 2: What you saw that you liked, you didn't like. We'll
Speaker 2: talk to Larry Fitzgerald of the Cardinals. He'll join us
Speaker 2: next Dan Patrick Show.