WEBVTT - Extra Frosting with Special Guest Host Fab Morvan 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:09.840 This is Frosted Tips with Lance Baths and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:15.520 Hi, my name is fab More Van aka Million Millie. 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.159 So here we go on Frosted Tips. Today we have 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:24.599 Elon who plays my character fab More Van in a 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:28.640 movie Girl You Know Is True, which just hit America 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:34.479 right now. And I've met Elan countless time and this 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.159 is the first time that we're gonna talk together on 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:39.760 the air like this, and I'm gonna ask him some 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.800 questions because I took the time to prepare some questions 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.920 which I have right here, right now, and We're gonna 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:50.040 have a blast. So welcome to Frosted Tips. This is 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:56.320 fab more than a ka Millie Vanilli. Hello, Yo, come 0:00:56.320 --> 0:01:00.720 onst have how you doing, man, I'm fine about you, man, 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.160 I'm good dude. You know, this is the first time 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:04.080 that we're going to do this. 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.480 Yes, exciting, right, it's exciting. 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.920 Man. I love doing this. This is dope. And because 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.040 you know, we've talked before, but it was off camera, 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.680 so this is like the first. This is like an exclusive. 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:22.240 This is Elon and Fab. This is Elon who played 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.280 Fab in the movie Girl Knows Through and did an 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:30.400 amazing job. Thank you from the jump brother thank you 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.640 for the love from the research, and we're gonna dive 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.760 right into it right now. All right, I'm gonna ask 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.400 you a few questions, you know, so tell me a 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:44.280 little bit about yourself and where you you grew up 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.160 and if acting was something that you always aspired to 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:50.720 or was it an accident. 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:56.800 M So. Actually I was born in Comoros island, you know, 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:01.840 it's like islands closed by Madagascar, and I was bundre. 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.559 But and I came in France when I was seven, 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:08.680 So I grew up in Paris, you know, the real Paris. 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:14.640 And yeah, I mean acting. How how I became an actor? 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:18.280 I mean I had this option in high school when 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.080 you have to choose an option, you know, you could 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:28.840 do like more English civilization and acting stage acting. And 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:32.560 at this time I used to to do some music, 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:36.240 you know, rap music, and I was like, yeah, it 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.440 makes sense theater. It can be cool because it's it's 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:45.440 all about like building something with other people and also 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:49.799 put some feelings, you know. And I went there right 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:51.840 away and I really love loved it. 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.040 So would you say that, would you say that expressing 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:58.320 yourself outwards? Yeah, kind of work where there was going 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:00.840 to be rap music maybe it's started with Wrap. Like 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:02.880 a lot of you know, a lot of people saw 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.320 their career started their career through rap and I ended 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:09.440 up and left Wrap totally. So I can't see how 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:10.800 you made a transition. 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.680 And yeah, yeah, yeah it was for me, it was 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.760 like organic. You know, it was like I want to 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:20.200 I knew that I wanted to do some artistic stuff, 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:25.920 but I didn't know where and why. But and I 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:30.040 did that and then I just I just loved it 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:33.320 and I was like okay. And when I I was gorreated, 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.320 I was like, okay, why why not be? I want 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.440 to be I'm gonna do it like stage acting, but 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:42.560 in a professional way. So I used to go acting school, 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:43.360 but I started like that. 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:47.080 Yeah all right, So tell me did you ever took 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:52.119 part before this project into a feature film or where 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:56.080 you had a small party feature film or what was 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:57.680 Kurnels through? What was it for you? 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.680 That was my that's my first time, my first movie actually, 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:03.560 I know, you know, I. 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.920 Just had to tell that to people because I incredible. Bro. 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:11.360 You know, I get the job when you know, I 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.480 finished my acting school and you know, like I said, 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.800 I'm more like stage acting, and when I get the 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:22.200 audition the casting. I was like, okay, let's try it. 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:26.480 But I didn't have any plan to do some cinemas 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.240 or movies, you know, and I was like, okay, let's 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.800 do it, and and uh and then I was I 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:36.280 was scared because it was in English also, and back 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.840 then my English was so bad as a French guy actually. 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:43.200 You know well, and also let's not forget that Elon 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:48.440 dubbed the movie in German as well. My dude respects 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:52.400 you know, I speak German too, and I've seen different 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.039 versions of like, oh my god, that's yeah. 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:01.000 Yeah, I loved it, you know because you know, just 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:06.320 like being being in Germany starting speaking English. And also 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.919 it was the like you did like fab did you know, 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:14.200 you just like left from Paris becoming Germany and you 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:17.200 don't know anything about the country. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:21.159 Better then would you say that they were parallels in 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:25.880 your journey in entertainment as you as you dove into 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:27.680 the projects. So I'm gonna go right in there too. 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:29.920 Yeah, how did you. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:33.559 Find First of all, how did you find out about 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.600 the projects? Because you know, you live in France, it's 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.760 it's a German production, So did your agent have anything 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:41.719 to do with that or you knew about it. You 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:43.760 heard about it, like, how was that? Yeah? 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:47.560 My my agent actually my agent, you know. And when 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.280 I when I and I finished my acting school, I 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:54.359 had this this agent. I was like, right now I 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.159 want to do casting, so I'm ready for this because 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.960 my acting school for me was really good for the 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.839 preparation to be you know, I always wanted to be 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.680 doing this, but I knew that I need to improve myself, 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.680 you know, to be an actor, because I want to 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.640 do this job for fifty years. 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.840 As long as you can, that's right, yeah, you know, 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.920 but you have started with this. To have started with this, bro, 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.840 and to take it when you took it. Because when 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.200 I look at the movie, and there were several times 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.120 when I look at the screen and I look at 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.720 some partner and I was like, and we told you, 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:33.719 like that feels like me, Like you know, the emotion 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:35.839 that was all over you with your face and then 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:39.680 you turn into into me. It was proper lighting. And 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.640 we got to thank someone for Hoofer, you know. 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.560 Yeah, I mean they did the production. They did a 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:50.240 great job because you know, even even the relationship between 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:54.000 me and Tijan, you know, my co star, it was 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:58.279 like incredible because I mean, they did a great job. 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:02.560 I don't know, I don't know how you know, but 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.520 but it was like it was like it was written 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:06.960 for us, you know, even our. 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:11.400 Person to say I was about to say, certainly serendipitous, 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.320 they said, I think that's how they said. It's meant 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.880 to be. There's no accident. And and the way you 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:20.000 guys moved on this on the screen together, I was like, man, 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:24.480 just respect because you really did you really did your research, 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:25.920 so oh thank you. 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:41.680 Thanks. 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:47.040 When the addition came around, right and then you heard 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:50.920 the name Millivanilli, did that speak to you? Did you 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.280 know about it that? Did you know the music? Did 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.360 your parents? Because I think your parents but have known 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:59.320 about it. You don't know, but I think in Africa 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:03.360 in general, it was on blast. It was everywhere. Tell 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:03.960 us about this. 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.520 I mean for me, I didn't know anything about me 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:07.000 even nearly. 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.480 You know the music though, you know the music the. 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:12.200 Music kind of because I remember when I when the 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:16.080 first time I saw the the video video clip of girl. 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.800 You know it's true and I see you guys with 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.600 this style, the outfit, the hair. I was like, hey, 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.600 I know this kind of image, you know, because back 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:30.000 then I used to watch like a retrospective of eighties music, 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:34.080 nineties music. So I used to see a lot of 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.040 video clip and when I saw you guys, I was like, hey, 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.760 I know somewhere this image of these two guys. Yeah, 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.360 kind of I was connected, you know, earlier, but I 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.160 didn't do the link straight. You know, when when when 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.160 I knew about the project? 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:53.960 Okay, So and as you so, as you went into 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:58.160 the character, did you how quick did you realize that 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.480 at the core of this those because you know, as 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.800 a character, as you go through the story, there's an 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:11.480 exploitation aspect that takes place. And and of course how 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:15.040 early did you discover that you know in the in 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.360 the you know, even you when you look at the 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.280 landscape and the story, you can tell that they're not 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:24.080 the bad guys and that Frank Farne is really the 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.920 villain in that. So when when you found that out, 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:32.720 how did you how did you use that in your character? 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.679 You know, to build your k How did you move 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.120 on screen? And how did you like how is your 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.840 approach to you like how you and tijm? How did 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:42.600 you work that out? How did you figure it out? 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:48.360 I mean, of course you know you you it wasn't trapped, 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:51.360 you know, they were in a trap and they didn't 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:55.960 really they wanted to sing, but it was like they couldn't, 0:09:56.440 --> 0:10:00.320 you know, and in a way not that yeah out 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:04.600 and you know where you know where when you you 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:06.640 you know, And that's why we're doing this, this this 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:10.080 movie because you know, we're not talking about Milivanilli people 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.000 that they they really don't know what's happened behind the 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:16.440 scenes and they only have the scandal in mind. But 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.680 they couldn't and and and and and that's why we're 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:23.200 doing this movie. And what I like in our movie. 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:26.520 You see that we are, we are putting the spotlight 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.200 on Robin fab you know, because back then they didn't 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.960 have the chance, you know, because and why now we 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.560 are like they are reading the story and I think, 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.280 and I think that's what I like in our movie. 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:42.560 But yeah, yes, surely I love what you just said, 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:46.640 because you know, back in the days, the focal point 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:50.040 was rubbing fat. But yeah, it was. We were used 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:55.199 as gapegoats, so it was awful. We were responsible, not talented. 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.679 They don't sing nothing, so it was all on the negative. 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.520 Like easy target, you know, yeah, is it target? 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:03.960 So years later we look back and now finally can 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:08.160 people can walk down those emotional wear those emotional shoes 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.760 that Robin Fab weren't wearing, and then you can feel 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.680 the pain and people suddenly realized like we were human 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:19.719 beings because at some point we were only regarded as punchline. 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:24.280 That's why. So when you were and there were many 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.120 there were many magical moments in this movie, and I 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.040 want to ask you, like, how did you get to 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.920 those magical moments? Was Simon did Simon? 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:34.240 Was? 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:38.400 Was Simon always there to help you navigate some of 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:42.640 the script and those very important scene see the person 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:46.000 to go to when you were in doubt? How did 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:48.720 that work? Or were you always on point? Like everything 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.600 you did was like damn, you nailed it. 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.720 It's mixed of everything, of all of it, you know, 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.640 because you know, to do this job, you know, we 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:02.839 had to see jan and me to really be connected 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:06.520 and on point because Robin Fab the relationship you you 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:10.880 you had you had with with brothers and we knew 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:13.120 that and the first time I read the script, I 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.640 was like, oh, yeah, they're really like brothers and we 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:21.199 cannot fake that. So we have this idea to We 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.680 talked to the producer and when we told them like, 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.600 we want to live together, and for three months before 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:31.559 started shooting, we started to live together and just spending time, 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:37.200 you know, not Yeah, it makes sense because and and 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.480 and and you know, and we have all this I 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.400 remember with teachers, we have all this dynamic. And because 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.560 I didn't speak any German at this moment, you know, 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.560 and we had we had to we had to speak 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.760 English together. And yeah, we we spent a lot of 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.920 time going to gym together. So we started to to 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.679 link up like that, you know, but because it was important, 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:03.640 like when the camera is on, we we we it's 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:07.840 not like it's not characters, it's like, so we need 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:11.720 to create this. So for me, that's what's important. And 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:16.480 also the relationship with the between them of course, and 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:20.120 with Simon because Simon. We get the trust about from Simon, 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:23.040 and for us it was really important because it was 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:26.840 our first movie. And when you got the confidence from 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:32.520 the production for everybody, you can really feel Okay, that's 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.240 my that's my I have room to do my job. 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:39.440 And yeah, so of course, so. 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:44.720 Would you say that Simon gave you room to just 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.679 you just do what you had to do and felt 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.880 like you thought like that's what you should do for 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:50.480 certain things. 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:54.520 Yeah, of course, I mean because of course, because you know, 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:58.560 as a young actor, being like in this first project, 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:04.120 you international movie, so of course you have all this pressure. 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.920 But when you feel that that's a job you did. 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.240 We we had like four months of casting, you know, 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.600 from Paris to Munich, and. 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.960 So you were you were, you were in a casting 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:17.480 performance like going back. 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.600 Yeah, we started. I started, I started like in France 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.240 and then I had to go to Munich and uh 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:28.120 and yeah. But so for them it was like okay, 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.680 they did the casting. So when you got this confident, 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:34.040 you can't really be ready to do anything. 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:38.120 But but I think, but but did you think that 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.920 you in the process of doing all this right, going 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:45.800 through the process of auditioning. Yeah, at one point, did 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.920 you know that you had it? Did you feel from 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.160 the beginning that you were made for this role? Did 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.320 you know that it was yours? Or you were told 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.920 in the dark and it was doubt and it was stressing, 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.840 it was pressure, and it was like I wanted. 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.280 I mean, yeah, of course, when you got this, you 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.360 started to to okay, how I'm gonna do this. But 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:12.040 when you started to work and you are really putting 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.840 the work on it. You just like became confident on it. 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.240 But first I was, of course, I'm not gonna lie. 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.600 I felt like pressure. And I remember one day I 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.120 was calling Simon, you know, he was in the car 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:28.560 with all the directors, the director, Simon and the director. 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:32.200 I just called him and you know, this day, I 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.560 felt like a lot of doubts. You know, I was like, 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.600 how I'm gonna do that? Because I was I was 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:44.320 working about how it feeled to to to to feel 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.600 like I am I'm a fraud. You know, I'm doing 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:51.880 I'm living my dream, but fifty persons because in a way, 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:55.680 I'm lying to people. So I started to to work 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.000 how is it for me elan? You know. So I 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.640 started to really feel the doubts, you know, and I 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.320 just called Simon. I was like, and he was in 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:04.840 the car with all the producers. 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:05.080 You know. 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.880 I was like, as Simon, I think I can't do 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.600 this movie. I mean, it's so difficult. I don't know 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.480 how I'm gonna do this. There is a lot of 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:17.080 things to do, the dancing part. I had to improve 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:21.240 my English, and I really felt like pressure. And he 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.440 was like all the producer was in the car he was. 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:27.280 Simon was like, okay, I'm calling you later. And then 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.160 we had a discussion. I mean, he was like, hey, 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.480 you did the job right now, just enjoy the time 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.680 because you're ready for this and the feeling you got 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.880 it's good because you're gonna You're gonna play with it 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.840 and that's what I want. You know. How how was 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.760 it when you are not you are leaving the dream 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.560 as in like being a superstar, but you're not secure. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.040 So it was like that's a good thing. 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:58.640 I didn't know that part. You see that when I 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.120 when I spend time with some and and I saw 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.760 how subtle he is and how good he is because 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.240 he also wrote the script. You know, let's let's not 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.560 forget that he directed, wrote the script, is also a 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:12.720 producer of the project. And Some met me when he 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.399 was sixteen years old at P's the place where we 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:18.080 all were all started for us, and he may never 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.920 forget that image. And I saw that he was there 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:21.680 during that time. 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:23.560 I look at the movie. 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:25.480 When I look at the movie and they were parts 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.119 where we're entering the club, I was like, man, that 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.560 dude was there. Yeah, I mean, and movie was amazing. 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:35.240 The movie I mean, he loves me, so of course 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:38.639 he can. He put on this heart on this movie, 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.280 and I think I hope that people will feel it, 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:43.119 you know, you. 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:46.159 Know, I think and I think that also he he 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.720 really wanted to tell the these story. So it's story 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:54.120 of course everybody. And then he put the puzzle together. 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.200 But one plus one equal to not one plus one 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:03.919 equaled three. So the uh, Frank Farne was you know, 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:09.280 the bad guy in this story. Rob Fab were the victims, 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.840 and there were other people that were instrumental in in 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:16.159 the story that people. When you watch the movie you 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.320 realize how important. But because they were behind for so 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:23.560 many years, you didn't know about them in this wage. 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:27.639 Yeah, that's why. That's why, that's why Simon had his 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.280 clever idea. You know when we when we were on 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:32.400 the road, we called that in the rock Star suit 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:36.480 and we talked to the camera you know, and don't yeah, 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:37.520 you know, spoil. 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:38.600 Alert, it's not. 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:46.399 But because I really love that, because because you know, 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:50.479 even like you know Robin Fab, you know, because Simon 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:55.320 had his image for him. It was like he told us, okay, 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:58.960 this part for me is like heaven, you know, and 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.000 right now, Robin about talking to each other. There's no 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:07.320 dispute anymore. You know, it's just like they're talking about 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:10.439 what's happened. And I really love this. It's part of 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:12.040 this movie. But I'm not gonna spark. 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.280 But you know, like it's funny when they use the 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:18.800 word heaven. It really is, yeah, because you know when 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.400 people look at the movie and especially the set design, 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.320 the cars. As a matter of fact, the sofa on 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.800 which you're sitting is one of my favorite sofa in 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.040 the world. Yeah, it's around right whatever you see, you 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:31.919 can sit across with someone and left to turn your 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:35.720 neck like that, you know, but like it was, it was. 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.600 It was a different dimension and from there, every time 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:43.040 you guys enter to that room, it was peaceful. So 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:46.600 when it talks about heaven, Okay, as you were learning 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:50.320 about the story, did you quickly okay? I asked you, Okay, 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:55.240 what was the process beyond learning about the dynamics between 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:59.600 Robin fab Like, how did you? Was it obvious to you? 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:02.840 Because to me, when I look at the movie, I'm like, man, 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:06.720 they nailed it. I think I think I think you 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:10.679 must have watched a lot of interviews because in interviews, Yeah, 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:14.200 I didn't speak much as you know, I was very 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:18.640 quiet scene. I was very much talking and we were. 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:22.280 There you you you know about the arch you know, 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:25.879 for the footage from the interview that every Yeah, of 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:30.119 course you didn't really talk, but you can because you're expressive, 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:33.560 you know, but you can feel it's not I'm not 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:38.479 talking because when we feel that there's something behind, I 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:43.280 don't know what, but you know, it's kind of because 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:48.959 on stage you you were like like you you know 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:51.879 what I'm saying. But yeah, yeah, I really analyzed this, 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.760 you know, about on the on the footage I saw 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:58.439 and I was like, okay, how was it? Okay? Of 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:03.400 course Fab was the guy like behind, but what's happening 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:06.760 in his mind? What's his thinking? And that's why that's 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:10.679 how I worked. And also the dynamic between Rob and 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.000 Fat because there were like this of course when we 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:14.200 started like interview. 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:15.919 Yeah, it's funny you say that because I had the 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:18.000 same reactions because you know, it took me some time 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:20.359 to look at the footage and interviews and all that, 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.520 you know, and and especially during the documentary, and when 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:25.919 I watched the documentary at the end, you know, in 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:28.199 the privacy of my own home, I watched it and 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:30.600 I looked at my face and I was like, wow, 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:34.080 I didn't speak much, but when you look at my 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:38.320 face what I was feeling. I was not happy to 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:41.359 be here. It was happening. Whatever Rob was saying, whatever, 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:46.080 sometimes yes scared as well. Whatever Rob was saying. I 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:49.199 was like, oh my god, dude, don't say that. You know. 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:52.720 The fear was on my face. The unhappiness, like the 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:56.760 like I wanted to scream out but I couldn't, you know. 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.960 I was like, there was this invisible curtain that I could, 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:02.800 you know, come out. It was like like a jail. 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:06.879 It was a golden cage, you know, diamond studed, but 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:09.760 it was still a cage and we couldn't get out 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:12.199 because we had the pressure of the label. So you 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:15.560 got that right, Like my face spoke much. 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:18.199 It was analyzed everything, you know, and. 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:19.679 Your fence dope. 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:20.600 That was dope. 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:21.720 It was really nice. 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:21.920 Man. 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:25.880 When you started, when did you get when did you 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:29.840 start to realize that when you looked when you study 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:33.600 the story right and the beginning, there was happiness, like 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:36.359 we're happy to be there. Wow, it's cool. You know, 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:40.680 people love us, the girls love us. When we never 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:43.320 had a problem with ladies you know, don't get twisted, 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:48.520 but I'm just saying when fame came, it was like right, 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.560 of course, And when when when did you feel like 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:57.400 the mental our mental state started to change, because as 0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:01.400 we got more fame, that's when I look at the movie. 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:05.280