Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Baths and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hi, my name is fab More Van aka Million Millie.
Speaker 2: So here we go on Frosted Tips. Today we have
Speaker 2: Elon who plays my character fab More Van in a
Speaker 2: movie Girl You Know Is True, which just hit America
Speaker 2: right now. And I've met Elan countless time and this
Speaker 2: is the first time that we're gonna talk together on
Speaker 2: the air like this, and I'm gonna ask him some
Speaker 2: questions because I took the time to prepare some questions
Speaker 2: which I have right here, right now, and We're gonna
Speaker 2: have a blast. So welcome to Frosted Tips. This is
Speaker 2: fab more than a ka Millie Vanilli. Hello, Yo, come
Speaker 2: onst have how you doing, man, I'm fine about you, man,
Speaker 2: I'm good dude. You know, this is the first time
Speaker 2: that we're going to do this.
Speaker 1: Yes, exciting, right, it's exciting.
Speaker 2: Man. I love doing this. This is dope. And because
Speaker 2: you know, we've talked before, but it was off camera,
Speaker 2: so this is like the first. This is like an exclusive.
Speaker 2: This is Elon and Fab. This is Elon who played
Speaker 2: Fab in the movie Girl Knows Through and did an
Speaker 2: amazing job. Thank you from the jump brother thank you
Speaker 2: for the love from the research, and we're gonna dive
Speaker 2: right into it right now. All right, I'm gonna ask
Speaker 2: you a few questions, you know, so tell me a
Speaker 2: little bit about yourself and where you you grew up
Speaker 2: and if acting was something that you always aspired to
Speaker 2: or was it an accident.
Speaker 1: M So. Actually I was born in Comoros island, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like islands closed by Madagascar, and I was bundre.
Speaker 1: But and I came in France when I was seven,
Speaker 1: So I grew up in Paris, you know, the real Paris.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean acting. How how I became an actor?
Speaker 1: I mean I had this option in high school when
Speaker 1: you have to choose an option, you know, you could
Speaker 1: do like more English civilization and acting stage acting. And
Speaker 1: at this time I used to to do some music,
Speaker 1: you know, rap music, and I was like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: makes sense theater. It can be cool because it's it's
Speaker 1: all about like building something with other people and also
Speaker 1: put some feelings, you know. And I went there right
Speaker 1: away and I really love loved it.
Speaker 2: So would you say that, would you say that expressing
Speaker 2: yourself outwards? Yeah, kind of work where there was going
Speaker 2: to be rap music maybe it's started with Wrap. Like
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, a lot of people saw
Speaker 2: their career started their career through rap and I ended
Speaker 2: up and left Wrap totally. So I can't see how
Speaker 2: you made a transition.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, yeah it was for me, it was
Speaker 1: like organic. You know, it was like I want to
Speaker 1: I knew that I wanted to do some artistic stuff,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know where and why. But and I
Speaker 1: did that and then I just I just loved it
Speaker 1: and I was like okay. And when I I was gorreated,
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, why why not be? I want
Speaker 1: to be I'm gonna do it like stage acting, but
Speaker 1: in a professional way. So I used to go acting school,
Speaker 1: but I started like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, So tell me did you ever took
Speaker 2: part before this project into a feature film or where
Speaker 2: you had a small party feature film or what was
Speaker 2: Kurnels through? What was it for you?
Speaker 1: That was my that's my first time, my first movie actually,
Speaker 1: I know, you know, I.
Speaker 2: Just had to tell that to people because I incredible. Bro.
Speaker 1: You know, I get the job when you know, I
Speaker 1: finished my acting school and you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm more like stage acting, and when I get the
Speaker 1: audition the casting. I was like, okay, let's try it.
Speaker 1: But I didn't have any plan to do some cinemas
Speaker 1: or movies, you know, and I was like, okay, let's
Speaker 1: do it, and and uh and then I was I
Speaker 1: was scared because it was in English also, and back
Speaker 1: then my English was so bad as a French guy actually.
Speaker 2: You know well, and also let's not forget that Elon
Speaker 2: dubbed the movie in German as well. My dude respects
Speaker 2: you know, I speak German too, and I've seen different
Speaker 2: versions of like, oh my god, that's yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved it, you know because you know, just
Speaker 1: like being being in Germany starting speaking English. And also
Speaker 1: it was the like you did like fab did you know,
Speaker 1: you just like left from Paris becoming Germany and you
Speaker 1: don't know anything about the country.
Speaker 2: Better then would you say that they were parallels in
Speaker 2: your journey in entertainment as you as you dove into
Speaker 2: the projects. So I'm gonna go right in there too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you.
Speaker 2: Find First of all, how did you find out about
Speaker 2: the projects? Because you know, you live in France, it's
Speaker 2: it's a German production, So did your agent have anything
Speaker 2: to do with that or you knew about it. You
Speaker 2: heard about it, like, how was that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: My my agent actually my agent, you know. And when
Speaker 1: I when I and I finished my acting school, I
Speaker 1: had this this agent. I was like, right now I
Speaker 1: want to do casting, so I'm ready for this because
Speaker 1: my acting school for me was really good for the
Speaker 1: preparation to be you know, I always wanted to be
Speaker 1: doing this, but I knew that I need to improve myself,
Speaker 1: you know, to be an actor, because I want to
Speaker 1: do this job for fifty years.
Speaker 2: As long as you can, that's right, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: but you have started with this. To have started with this, bro,
Speaker 2: and to take it when you took it. Because when
Speaker 2: I look at the movie, and there were several times
Speaker 2: when I look at the screen and I look at
Speaker 2: some partner and I was like, and we told you,
Speaker 2: like that feels like me, Like you know, the emotion
Speaker 2: that was all over you with your face and then
Speaker 2: you turn into into me. It was proper lighting. And
Speaker 2: we got to thank someone for Hoofer, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they did the production. They did a
Speaker 1: great job because you know, even even the relationship between
Speaker 1: me and Tijan, you know, my co star, it was
Speaker 1: like incredible because I mean, they did a great job.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how you know, but
Speaker 1: but it was like it was like it was written
Speaker 1: for us, you know, even our.
Speaker 2: Person to say I was about to say, certainly serendipitous,
Speaker 2: they said, I think that's how they said. It's meant
Speaker 2: to be. There's no accident. And and the way you
Speaker 2: guys moved on this on the screen together, I was like, man,
Speaker 2: just respect because you really did you really did your research,
Speaker 2: so oh thank you.
Speaker 3: Thanks.
Speaker 2: When the addition came around, right and then you heard
Speaker 2: the name Millivanilli, did that speak to you? Did you
Speaker 2: know about it that? Did you know the music? Did
Speaker 2: your parents? Because I think your parents but have known
Speaker 2: about it. You don't know, but I think in Africa
Speaker 2: in general, it was on blast. It was everywhere. Tell
Speaker 2: us about this.
Speaker 1: I mean for me, I didn't know anything about me
Speaker 1: even nearly.
Speaker 2: You know the music though, you know the music the.
Speaker 1: Music kind of because I remember when I when the
Speaker 1: first time I saw the the video video clip of girl.
Speaker 1: You know it's true and I see you guys with
Speaker 1: this style, the outfit, the hair. I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I know this kind of image, you know, because back
Speaker 1: then I used to watch like a retrospective of eighties music,
Speaker 1: nineties music. So I used to see a lot of
Speaker 1: video clip and when I saw you guys, I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I know somewhere this image of these two guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of I was connected, you know, earlier, but I
Speaker 1: didn't do the link straight. You know, when when when
Speaker 1: I knew about the project?
Speaker 2: Okay, So and as you so, as you went into
Speaker 2: the character, did you how quick did you realize that
Speaker 2: at the core of this those because you know, as
Speaker 2: a character, as you go through the story, there's an
Speaker 2: exploitation aspect that takes place. And and of course how
Speaker 2: early did you discover that you know in the in
Speaker 2: the you know, even you when you look at the
Speaker 2: landscape and the story, you can tell that they're not
Speaker 2: the bad guys and that Frank Farne is really the
Speaker 2: villain in that. So when when you found that out,
Speaker 2: how did you how did you use that in your character?
Speaker 2: You know, to build your k How did you move
Speaker 2: on screen? And how did you like how is your
Speaker 2: approach to you like how you and tijm? How did
Speaker 2: you work that out? How did you figure it out?
Speaker 1: I mean, of course you know you you it wasn't trapped,
Speaker 1: you know, they were in a trap and they didn't
Speaker 1: really they wanted to sing, but it was like they couldn't,
Speaker 1: you know, and in a way not that yeah out
Speaker 1: and you know where you know where when you you
Speaker 1: you know, And that's why we're doing this, this this
Speaker 1: movie because you know, we're not talking about Milivanilli people
Speaker 1: that they they really don't know what's happened behind the
Speaker 1: scenes and they only have the scandal in mind. But
Speaker 1: they couldn't and and and and and that's why we're
Speaker 1: doing this movie. And what I like in our movie.
Speaker 1: You see that we are, we are putting the spotlight
Speaker 1: on Robin fab you know, because back then they didn't
Speaker 1: have the chance, you know, because and why now we
Speaker 1: are like they are reading the story and I think,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what I like in our movie.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yes, surely I love what you just said,
Speaker 2: because you know, back in the days, the focal point
Speaker 2: was rubbing fat. But yeah, it was. We were used
Speaker 2: as gapegoats, so it was awful. We were responsible, not talented.
Speaker 2: They don't sing nothing, so it was all on the negative.
Speaker 1: Like easy target, you know, yeah, is it target?
Speaker 2: So years later we look back and now finally can
Speaker 2: people can walk down those emotional wear those emotional shoes
Speaker 2: that Robin Fab weren't wearing, and then you can feel
Speaker 2: the pain and people suddenly realized like we were human
Speaker 2: beings because at some point we were only regarded as punchline.
Speaker 2: That's why. So when you were and there were many
Speaker 2: there were many magical moments in this movie, and I
Speaker 2: want to ask you, like, how did you get to
Speaker 2: those magical moments? Was Simon did Simon?
Speaker 1: Was?
Speaker 2: Was Simon always there to help you navigate some of
Speaker 2: the script and those very important scene see the person
Speaker 2: to go to when you were in doubt? How did
Speaker 2: that work? Or were you always on point? Like everything
Speaker 2: you did was like damn, you nailed it.
Speaker 1: It's mixed of everything, of all of it, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know, to do this job, you know, we
Speaker 1: had to see jan and me to really be connected
Speaker 1: and on point because Robin Fab the relationship you you
Speaker 1: you had you had with with brothers and we knew
Speaker 1: that and the first time I read the script, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, they're really like brothers and we
Speaker 1: cannot fake that. So we have this idea to We
Speaker 1: talked to the producer and when we told them like,
Speaker 1: we want to live together, and for three months before
Speaker 1: started shooting, we started to live together and just spending time,
Speaker 1: you know, not Yeah, it makes sense because and and
Speaker 1: and and you know, and we have all this I
Speaker 1: remember with teachers, we have all this dynamic. And because
Speaker 1: I didn't speak any German at this moment, you know,
Speaker 1: and we had we had to we had to speak
Speaker 1: English together. And yeah, we we spent a lot of
Speaker 1: time going to gym together. So we started to to
Speaker 1: link up like that, you know, but because it was important,
Speaker 1: like when the camera is on, we we we it's
Speaker 1: not like it's not characters, it's like, so we need
Speaker 1: to create this. So for me, that's what's important. And
Speaker 1: also the relationship with the between them of course, and
Speaker 1: with Simon because Simon. We get the trust about from Simon,
Speaker 1: and for us it was really important because it was
Speaker 1: our first movie. And when you got the confidence from
Speaker 1: the production for everybody, you can really feel Okay, that's
Speaker 1: my that's my I have room to do my job.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so of course, so.
Speaker 2: Would you say that Simon gave you room to just
Speaker 2: you just do what you had to do and felt
Speaker 2: like you thought like that's what you should do for
Speaker 2: certain things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, I mean because of course, because you know,
Speaker 1: as a young actor, being like in this first project,
Speaker 1: you international movie, so of course you have all this pressure.
Speaker 1: But when you feel that that's a job you did.
Speaker 1: We we had like four months of casting, you know,
Speaker 1: from Paris to Munich, and.
Speaker 2: So you were you were, you were in a casting
Speaker 2: performance like going back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we started. I started, I started like in France
Speaker 1: and then I had to go to Munich and uh
Speaker 1: and yeah. But so for them it was like okay,
Speaker 1: they did the casting. So when you got this confident,
Speaker 1: you can't really be ready to do anything.
Speaker 2: But but I think, but but did you think that
Speaker 2: you in the process of doing all this right, going
Speaker 2: through the process of auditioning. Yeah, at one point, did
Speaker 2: you know that you had it? Did you feel from
Speaker 2: the beginning that you were made for this role? Did
Speaker 2: you know that it was yours? Or you were told
Speaker 2: in the dark and it was doubt and it was stressing,
Speaker 2: it was pressure, and it was like I wanted.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, of course, when you got this, you
Speaker 1: started to to okay, how I'm gonna do this. But
Speaker 1: when you started to work and you are really putting
Speaker 1: the work on it. You just like became confident on it.
Speaker 1: But first I was, of course, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I felt like pressure. And I remember one day I
Speaker 1: was calling Simon, you know, he was in the car
Speaker 1: with all the directors, the director, Simon and the director.
Speaker 1: I just called him and you know, this day, I
Speaker 1: felt like a lot of doubts. You know, I was like,
Speaker 1: how I'm gonna do that? Because I was I was
Speaker 1: working about how it feeled to to to to feel
Speaker 1: like I am I'm a fraud. You know, I'm doing
Speaker 1: I'm living my dream, but fifty persons because in a way,
Speaker 1: I'm lying to people. So I started to to work
Speaker 1: how is it for me elan? You know. So I
Speaker 1: started to really feel the doubts, you know, and I
Speaker 1: just called Simon. I was like, and he was in
Speaker 1: the car with all the producers.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I was like, as Simon, I think I can't do
Speaker 1: this movie. I mean, it's so difficult. I don't know
Speaker 1: how I'm gonna do this. There is a lot of
Speaker 1: things to do, the dancing part. I had to improve
Speaker 1: my English, and I really felt like pressure. And he
Speaker 1: was like all the producer was in the car he was.
Speaker 1: Simon was like, okay, I'm calling you later. And then
Speaker 1: we had a discussion. I mean, he was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you did the job right now, just enjoy the time
Speaker 1: because you're ready for this and the feeling you got
Speaker 1: it's good because you're gonna You're gonna play with it
Speaker 1: and that's what I want. You know. How how was
Speaker 1: it when you are not you are leaving the dream
Speaker 1: as in like being a superstar, but you're not secure.
Speaker 1: So it was like that's a good thing.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that part. You see that when I
Speaker 2: when I spend time with some and and I saw
Speaker 2: how subtle he is and how good he is because
Speaker 2: he also wrote the script. You know, let's let's not
Speaker 2: forget that he directed, wrote the script, is also a
Speaker 2: producer of the project. And Some met me when he
Speaker 2: was sixteen years old at P's the place where we
Speaker 2: all were all started for us, and he may never
Speaker 2: forget that image. And I saw that he was there
Speaker 2: during that time.
Speaker 1: I look at the movie.
Speaker 2: When I look at the movie and they were parts
Speaker 2: where we're entering the club, I was like, man, that
Speaker 2: dude was there. Yeah, I mean, and movie was amazing.
Speaker 1: The movie I mean, he loves me, so of course
Speaker 1: he can. He put on this heart on this movie,
Speaker 1: and I think I hope that people will feel it,
Speaker 1: you know, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I think and I think that also he he
Speaker 2: really wanted to tell the these story. So it's story
Speaker 2: of course everybody. And then he put the puzzle together.
Speaker 2: But one plus one equal to not one plus one
Speaker 2: equaled three. So the uh, Frank Farne was you know,
Speaker 2: the bad guy in this story. Rob Fab were the victims,
Speaker 2: and there were other people that were instrumental in in
Speaker 2: the story that people. When you watch the movie you
Speaker 2: realize how important. But because they were behind for so
Speaker 2: many years, you didn't know about them in this wage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why. That's why, that's why Simon had his
Speaker 1: clever idea. You know when we when we were on
Speaker 1: the road, we called that in the rock Star suit
Speaker 1: and we talked to the camera you know, and don't yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, spoil.
Speaker 2: Alert, it's not.
Speaker 1: But because I really love that, because because you know,
Speaker 1: even like you know Robin Fab, you know, because Simon
Speaker 1: had his image for him. It was like he told us, okay,
Speaker 1: this part for me is like heaven, you know, and
Speaker 1: right now, Robin about talking to each other. There's no
Speaker 1: dispute anymore. You know, it's just like they're talking about
Speaker 1: what's happened. And I really love this. It's part of
Speaker 1: this movie. But I'm not gonna spark.
Speaker 2: But you know, like it's funny when they use the
Speaker 2: word heaven. It really is, yeah, because you know when
Speaker 2: people look at the movie and especially the set design,
Speaker 2: the cars. As a matter of fact, the sofa on
Speaker 2: which you're sitting is one of my favorite sofa in
Speaker 2: the world. Yeah, it's around right whatever you see, you
Speaker 2: can sit across with someone and left to turn your
Speaker 2: neck like that, you know, but like it was, it was.
Speaker 2: It was a different dimension and from there, every time
Speaker 2: you guys enter to that room, it was peaceful. So
Speaker 2: when it talks about heaven, Okay, as you were learning
Speaker 2: about the story, did you quickly okay? I asked you, Okay,
Speaker 2: what was the process beyond learning about the dynamics between
Speaker 2: Robin fab Like, how did you? Was it obvious to you?
Speaker 2: Because to me, when I look at the movie, I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: they nailed it. I think I think I think you
Speaker 2: must have watched a lot of interviews because in interviews, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't speak much as you know, I was very
Speaker 2: quiet scene. I was very much talking and we were.
Speaker 1: There you you you know about the arch you know,
Speaker 1: for the footage from the interview that every Yeah, of
Speaker 1: course you didn't really talk, but you can because you're expressive,
Speaker 1: you know, but you can feel it's not I'm not
Speaker 1: talking because when we feel that there's something behind, I
Speaker 1: don't know what, but you know, it's kind of because
Speaker 1: on stage you you were like like you you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But yeah, yeah, I really analyzed this,
Speaker 1: you know, about on the on the footage I saw
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, how was it? Okay? Of
Speaker 1: course Fab was the guy like behind, but what's happening
Speaker 1: in his mind? What's his thinking? And that's why that's
Speaker 1: how I worked. And also the dynamic between Rob and
Speaker 1: Fat because there were like this of course when we
Speaker 1: started like interview.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny you say that because I had the
Speaker 2: same reactions because you know, it took me some time
Speaker 2: to look at the footage and interviews and all that,
Speaker 2: you know, and and especially during the documentary, and when
Speaker 2: I watched the documentary at the end, you know, in
Speaker 2: the privacy of my own home, I watched it and
Speaker 2: I looked at my face and I was like, wow,
Speaker 2: I didn't speak much, but when you look at my
Speaker 2: face what I was feeling. I was not happy to
Speaker 2: be here. It was happening. Whatever Rob was saying, whatever,
Speaker 2: sometimes yes scared as well. Whatever Rob was saying. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, dude, don't say that. You know.
Speaker 2: The fear was on my face. The unhappiness, like the
Speaker 2: like I wanted to scream out but I couldn't, you know.
Speaker 2: I was like, there was this invisible curtain that I could,
Speaker 2: you know, come out. It was like like a jail.
Speaker 2: It was a golden cage, you know, diamond studed, but
Speaker 2: it was still a cage and we couldn't get out
Speaker 2: because we had the pressure of the label. So you
Speaker 2: got that right, Like my face spoke much.
Speaker 1: It was analyzed everything, you know, and.
Speaker 2: Your fence dope.
Speaker 3: That was dope.
Speaker 2: It was really nice.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: When you started, when did you get when did you
Speaker 2: start to realize that when you looked when you study
Speaker 2: the story right and the beginning, there was happiness, like
Speaker 2: we're happy to be there. Wow, it's cool. You know,
Speaker 2: people love us, the girls love us. When we never
Speaker 2: had a problem with ladies you know, don't get twisted,
Speaker 2: but I'm just saying when fame came, it was like right,
Speaker 2: of course, And when when when did you feel like
Speaker 2: the mental our mental state started to change, because as
Speaker 2: we got more fame, that's when I look at the movie.
Speaker 2: I was like, the fame came, and then certainly we
Speaker 2: started to just you know, this sounded great. So where
Speaker 2: did you? Like how did you because you know, I
Speaker 2: really you're a happy guy, you like, yeah, success, How
Speaker 2: did you work that out when you were working your
Speaker 2: character to let people know like we're not happy anymore?
Speaker 2: Like how did you when? I mean, how did you
Speaker 2: Where did you see that? Did you see that in footage?
Speaker 2: Or did you or Somemon kind of told you, hey listen,
Speaker 2: you know with the rise they kind of like they
Speaker 2: were lost pretty much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we were always like how according to
Speaker 1: our script? You know? And and and and I think
Speaker 1: you know there's this scene I think it's before But
Speaker 1: for me, I love to talk about this scene when
Speaker 1: you see you know, this scene between Rob and Fab
Speaker 1: When when when when Fab said like I'm gonna move out,
Speaker 1: you know? And and I think for for me, what
Speaker 1: what what what I thought when I was acting this
Speaker 1: for me. You know. Fab was always the guy like
Speaker 1: thinking twice before doing something, you know, and and and
Speaker 1: the way was the guy like what's going on? Like
Speaker 1: this is from let's go and and and I think
Speaker 1: impersive and I think Fab at sometime point was kind
Speaker 1: of tired to to always not not not not not
Speaker 1: think about him, you know, and and and and I
Speaker 1: got this feeling like he was like, okay about this scene. No, no,
Speaker 1: you know, I got this feeling.
Speaker 2: You know, I'll tell you because you know I am
Speaker 2: This scene was was really it's funny because no one
Speaker 2: was there when that took place, you understand. But somehow
Speaker 2: Sun and then got in this crypt you know, like
Speaker 2: that is not something that I really covered. But when
Speaker 2: it was time for me to just yo, bro, I'm
Speaker 2: moving out because I can't deal with you bully anymore. Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was. I was co dependent and we went to
Speaker 2: REAB and REAB. I was taught about codependency and how
Speaker 2: if I kept going that route, I would end up
Speaker 2: like rob So music being my love. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I got to keep making music, even though on the road.
Speaker 2: But we did those one hundred and seven city tours.
Speaker 2: We had to studio in the back of the bus,
Speaker 2: and I did my best to spend as much time
Speaker 2: as I could in there. But Rob was kind of
Speaker 2: dissolutions by by how becoming, yeah, but also that we
Speaker 2: were losing respect and people didn't really respect us in
Speaker 2: front of the world, yeah, but behind the scene, it
Speaker 2: could feel like we were not respected at all. And
Speaker 2: he kind of took that and his heart was hurting.
Speaker 2: So I say that of a broken heart because everything
Speaker 2: that was happening. So when we started me to move out,
Speaker 2: you know, you did that so well because it's like
Speaker 2: I was started caring for him. I was worried of
Speaker 2: wondering whether or not I was going to make it
Speaker 2: that night, if he was going to be alive in
Speaker 2: the morning. When I entered that room, you okay, dude,
Speaker 2: Like it was just so much pressure and.
Speaker 1: Way yeah, so much and at certain point it was
Speaker 1: too too, too big, and you like like like like
Speaker 1: we were we were saying the lines FAB say, like
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a superstar, I just want
Speaker 1: to be a musician. And for that's why, like like
Speaker 1: kind of like music saved his life, you know, and
Speaker 1: and and I like that He's always like keep going
Speaker 1: on and keep the music, keep what is right for him.
Speaker 1: And I think in this scene he was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: right now, I don't want to do this. I want
Speaker 1: to do this in my way because all this time
Speaker 1: I was following some kind of you know.
Speaker 2: It was it was my big brother, right and I know,
Speaker 2: you know, he protected me for many years, you know,
Speaker 2: but at some point and when he kind of lose
Speaker 2: himself and I couldn't. I didn't recognize him anymore emotionally,
Speaker 2: like as a person. Then I took over that's on stage,
Speaker 2: you know, Like I didn't speak much in interviews, but
Speaker 2: when the stage came out, damn, that was it. But
Speaker 2: I saw him losing his power, so I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: I got to double up on what I do on stage,
Speaker 2: you know. But I want to ask you since recover this,
Speaker 2: and again I'm a fan, dude, he did a great job.
Speaker 2: But what what is it that you learned from my
Speaker 2: character that you are using in your life daily? Is
Speaker 2: there anything that you said, Oh man, I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: that for my life. You know, before before you came
Speaker 2: to the projects, you were, you were elon, you were
Speaker 2: one person. But when you came out of that project.
Speaker 2: You you were exposed to so much and went through
Speaker 2: so many emotions, and I think that you know, action
Speaker 2: equal reaction, cause and effect. And is there anything in
Speaker 2: my character that that you're using right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I would say the resilience is, yes, resilience
Speaker 1: because you know, like being through being loved and then
Speaker 1: all this journey, the scandal and the fab keep going on,
Speaker 1: like he just wanted to do what he loves. And
Speaker 1: I think doing this storm even that, you know, he
Speaker 1: keep like, Okay, I just want to do my my
Speaker 1: dream and I'm going to continue with this, and I
Speaker 1: think what I that's what I keep with from from
Speaker 1: FAB and also always keeping like being being happy, you know,
Speaker 1: like okay, there's this, but I didn't I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: let me down. And I was like, okay, being happy,
Speaker 1: and you know, you just became like you have this
Speaker 1: wonderful family, and I think that's what works works, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and I think that's what I love people
Speaker 1: like keep in this movie like also it's like okay,
Speaker 1: but happy happiness, it's the most imptant. Also, of course,
Speaker 1: of course there is all this you know, tragic stuff
Speaker 1: you know up there, but but what what we keep
Speaker 1: at the end, it's it's it's the yeah family, and
Speaker 1: like keep chasing out dreams, you know, And and I
Speaker 1: think what what I keep from from from from from you?
Speaker 2: You know, Thank you, thank you, bro, because this is
Speaker 2: this is essentially you know that. That's what I've kind
Speaker 2: of been addressing to people. Like when you fall, yeah,
Speaker 2: you stand back up. You reinvent yourself, Yeah, to audience
Speaker 2: to be in your life, find what you love, surround
Speaker 2: yourself with good people, you know, but also in yourself.
Speaker 2: You're gonna fall, and those fall are going to create
Speaker 2: character no matter what. But if you believe truly in yourself,
Speaker 2: it might take time. Look look at me, like it
Speaker 2: took all those years for me to be able to
Speaker 2: tell my story and to get to you, to get
Speaker 2: you to play my character. Bro, I couldn't be happier
Speaker 2: because you went to John did an amazing job. So
Speaker 2: that's why I you know, there is no there are
Speaker 2: no accident in life. Things will happen the way that's
Speaker 2: supposed to happen. In the meantime, you have to do
Speaker 2: the work. And you know, of course that work will
Speaker 2: attract people towards you, and it's up to you to
Speaker 2: shine when it's done for you to shine, and just
Speaker 2: to go for it. So I wish you nothing of
Speaker 2: the best on this journey of acting. You got skills, brother,
Speaker 2: And then look back at this interview, be like, man,
Speaker 2: that was good man, Look at you. Look at Elan
Speaker 2: now he's here like in a.
Speaker 1: We kind of look alike Atulie, right, just like dude,
Speaker 1: of course we do.
Speaker 2: Of course we do. Bro. Yeah, man, you brought me
Speaker 2: your life. You know, you brought Fast your life. You know,
Speaker 2: they did the head, they did everything. You know, it was.
Speaker 2: It was awesome, awesome, awesome, and I'm so pleased that
Speaker 2: you were the one. Bro.
Speaker 1: Thank you, man, thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Well, I think we we we definitely covered the Simon
Speaker 2: because Simon, you know, outside of the movie, because he
Speaker 2: was someone that was really pursuing me in order to
Speaker 2: get me into it was very complicated. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: talk about that right now because there's too many layers
Speaker 2: to that story. Yeah, right, but it took some time
Speaker 2: to bring me on board, and we gotta we gotta
Speaker 2: give some and his flowers for Dominic shot to Simon
Speaker 2: man Or and and of course you know, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: curing Berg as well, those.
Speaker 1: Two, all the producers, all the all the producers.
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, and Kursen of course, you know, there's so
Speaker 2: many people in that, but I would say the leading guy,
Speaker 2: Curing and Simon really really thought hard because when it
Speaker 2: comes down to it, in the movie industry, when you
Speaker 2: make a movie, budget and everything, the last thing you're
Speaker 2: gonna do is go get you some unknown. You don't
Speaker 2: do that because some people, some people people I believe,
Speaker 2: are of the belief that no, no, no, get me
Speaker 2: some stars. Go get me some stars. But I'm not
Speaker 2: able to sell that movie, you know. But I'm so
Speaker 2: glad that they were like, no, we ain't doing that.
Speaker 2: It might be harder for us in the long run,
Speaker 2: but we're gonna go get too unknowns that are unknown
Speaker 2: that are going to bring right and.
Speaker 1: And also and also yeah, like like Robin fab you know,
Speaker 1: from from zero to Fame. And also for me it
Speaker 1: was like my first project and acting in English also,
Speaker 1: so so it kind of risky. But I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it makes sense. I mean, it makes sense, and.
Speaker 2: I know exactly what you went through when it comes
Speaker 2: to the language and everything. But you didn't have a job.
Speaker 2: You did a fantaistic job. And I'm so glad because
Speaker 2: I know where you come from and I know that
Speaker 2: when it when it comes to you know, when you
Speaker 2: grew up in France because we speak French, because we
Speaker 2: could conduct this interview in French, no doubt, you know, right.
Speaker 2: But the thing is, you know, for us French people,
Speaker 2: in our minds.
Speaker 1: English, it's like wow.
Speaker 2: Wow, dude, the way our mouth moves, it's almost like
Speaker 2: you ain't gonna touch it, so you kind of ah
Speaker 2: you it's like no, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: It's no, no, no, you you have all those things.
Speaker 2: And it's funny because when I go back to Paris
Speaker 2: and and I see my friends are like, how come
Speaker 2: don't you speak how come you don't speak English? You're like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, it's too difficult and sound funny because you know,
Speaker 2: French people have a different type of accent and it's obvious.
Speaker 1: So but people love the French accent. Like I said,
Speaker 1: when I started speaking English, the people that are like,
Speaker 1: oh you have a French accent, I was like, oh
Speaker 1: you like it. Okay, let's let's let's give so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna speak.
Speaker 2: But but you know, times have changed, you know, there
Speaker 2: was a lot there was a time where you know,
Speaker 2: you couldn't have was his name Jean, you know, like
Speaker 2: you know a lot of people were laughing about his
Speaker 2: accent for a long time, even Arnold's. But he made
Speaker 2: he made it a household you know, he made it.
Speaker 2: He became a household name. And also his accident is
Speaker 2: not copied by comedian and all types of people, so
Speaker 2: you know things have changed. Okay, But a respect for
Speaker 2: YouTube because I know you had to work really hard
Speaker 2: to and then do it in German as well the
Speaker 2: movie in German, do it in English like respect long
Speaker 2: but I was really had shows it shows dedication and
Speaker 2: thank you for that. You know. Was there a moment
Speaker 2: for you or teaching to John where you kind of
Speaker 2: like in a scene it became it became reality, you
Speaker 2: know how art imitates life. But in that moment, you
Speaker 2: guys went like you didn't even know where you were exactly,
Speaker 2: and that you were that you were John, and that
Speaker 2: that that you were John, you were inland. Was there
Speaker 2: a moment that took place? Is it in the film
Speaker 2: or is it like okay that didn't make the cut,
Speaker 2: or is it in the movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course there's two moments. First, the concert scene.
Speaker 1: I remember the concert scene MTV too. I remember because
Speaker 1: we we had to perform in fort of like two
Speaker 1: hundred real people. And for me, I remember the first
Speaker 1: the first take. I was like, yeah, bro talking to
Speaker 1: teacher like this, Bro, is it real right now? So
Speaker 1: we're gonna perform. And I really realized like what it
Speaker 1: is to to I mean kind of way what you
Speaker 1: and Rob felt. You know, when you going on stage
Speaker 1: and you're gonna perform in for of real people, but
Speaker 1: you still got this secret in your mind. And I
Speaker 1: felt and I felt that I was like Joe talking
Speaker 1: to teacher like hey, I'm not ready for the steps
Speaker 1: we read, so we're gonna shoot right now. So I
Speaker 1: really have the connection, like wow, right now it's really
Speaker 1: feeled and and and this that helped me to connect
Speaker 1: to the character because I was like, Okay, okay, right now,
Speaker 1: I really understand what what what they've been through, like
Speaker 1: being on stage, you're gonna perform and.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, there was always a lot of fear.
Speaker 2: But the way I was able to overcome my fear
Speaker 2: was to rehearse.
Speaker 3: Rehearse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was crazy on that. I kept Rob is
Speaker 2: not like I was a professional dancer and Rob was
Speaker 2: a breakdancer, so he was very loose with the rehearsal.
Speaker 2: And I even gave him dance class and I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that, you know, but I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: we guys to do that. So when he was declining,
Speaker 2: I could see that he was losing his work ethics.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I had to like come in front and
Speaker 2: do what it is. But it's interesting what you're saying
Speaker 2: because it was that fear at the beginning. But when
Speaker 2: we got to that one hundred and seven city tour show. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was a beast there. I was like, man, I
Speaker 2: was like, and he had some good nights, he had
Speaker 2: some bad nights because you know, we were partying, but
Speaker 2: we were also working out, working We're running a five
Speaker 2: k before the show and then party the night before.
Speaker 2: But because we had the youth, we could handle it.
Speaker 2: But I love how yeah, exactly. But it was very
Speaker 2: nice how Simon stayed away from the darkness of the night.
Speaker 2: But you can feel the decline because of the darkness
Speaker 2: of the night and what we were doing in order
Speaker 2: to forget. We were midiicating ourselves in order to forget
Speaker 2: those those things, you know, being able to look at
Speaker 2: you in the mirror and be like damn, damn, I'm
Speaker 2: lying like how long am I going to keep this?
Speaker 2: You know? So you I can't wait for people to
Speaker 2: see it. That's why I'm so so happy that we're
Speaker 2: doing this right now. It's so cool man. So right now,
Speaker 2: you know, after going through this process and knowing that
Speaker 2: you're capable because now it's directed towards you. It's you,
Speaker 2: Elan the actor who was able to start finish shine
Speaker 2: just like surprise everyone and have everyone loved this movie?
Speaker 2: Everyone that's watched the movie, it's like, Wow, those guys, Wow,
Speaker 2: listen for get Mattias, Yeah, who did Ingrid? Like everyone
Speaker 2: played their their part. But now I'm asking you this question,
Speaker 2: what is it for you next? What's on the bucket list?
Speaker 2: What would you like to do? What's next for you?
Speaker 2: What do you see?
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean there's a lot of it's coming.
Speaker 1: But I'm always like keeping calm because I know how
Speaker 1: how can be difficult this this? You know, being an actor,
Speaker 1: sometimes you got like you're playing a lot, then you
Speaker 1: got nothing. But I'm always like I want to do
Speaker 1: like movies. Right now, you know, I stay stage stage acting.
Speaker 1: I think for me it was good to really improve
Speaker 1: myself as an actor. So you want to go ready?
Speaker 2: So do you want to go stayside? Do you want
Speaker 2: to go in Germany? Do you want to do in France? Well?
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 1: You put?
Speaker 2: No limitation?
Speaker 1: No limitation worldwide? I mean right now I can like
Speaker 1: I got the confidence right now, like I'm ready kind
Speaker 1: of you know, so I can really play and yeah,
Speaker 1: in front of course, but worldwide. But we're going to
Speaker 1: see what's what's the movie give us?
Speaker 2: You know you and Rob Cherry this movie like crazy
Speaker 2: just just a part of like you know you on me.
Speaker 2: And I found that out too, you know, like when
Speaker 2: they told me, like yo, this is his first thing,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh really, I was thinking he's gonna
Speaker 2: be other, going to be able to handle this, it's
Speaker 2: like you know, and Son was like yes, I had to.
Speaker 1: Say and me, I mean we have each other like
Speaker 1: like I mean kind of robbing fat because we we
Speaker 1: we both are artworker and we wanted to give everything
Speaker 1: for this, for this project. So so I had a
Speaker 1: lot of help for everything. But yeah, we're gonna see
Speaker 1: what's what's next. But I'm confident, and I'm always like keeper,
Speaker 1: you know, confident for the future. But we'll see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but listen for me, like you know, we're gonna
Speaker 2: finish with this. It's like from one hol week to
Speaker 2: to to another. What you've done. It's surely amazing from
Speaker 2: not having done that, you know, every that's the first one,
Speaker 2: so we don't know when the next one is gonna
Speaker 2: come like this, but whatever comes, you know, make sure
Speaker 2: that it is for you, like you know, it's gotta be.
Speaker 2: You gotta make sure, you know, don't make compromises. Yeah,
Speaker 2: of course, of course you got to say the course,
Speaker 2: that's very important, you know. But I see greatness, I
Speaker 2: see excellence. I see nothing but that.
Speaker 1: Thank you for your words.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, and listen, I know it truthfully, you know.
Speaker 2: And I'm so happy that you're the one who did
Speaker 2: this because a lot of people come to me on
Speaker 2: social media that we have now, if we had social
Speaker 2: media would be different, you know, the story would have
Speaker 2: been different. But everyone says, wow, you know, I really
Speaker 2: I felt your character. You made me cry, you know,
Speaker 2: and even I remember when we were in Berlin at
Speaker 2: the end of the movie, so you saw me and
Speaker 2: I was emotional. You were emotional and we hugged each
Speaker 2: other and it was like you guys, you did it.
Speaker 2: You did it for yourself, but also you did it
Speaker 2: for me because you find how bad it was for us.
Speaker 2: People didn't know. They were like, you know, all the
Speaker 2: jokes a punichline that we became and finally years later,
Speaker 2: finally we can we can be like, Okay, you see
Speaker 2: what happens. I came full circle long ago. I had
Speaker 2: to for myself. But now people are realizing what it
Speaker 2: took you order for me to get there. Because the
Speaker 2: story the movie is one thing, but then they realized, like, oh,
Speaker 2: this has been traveling through time, time traveling, and that's
Speaker 2: what it takes. It takes health to go through time,
Speaker 2: and health is the keys at the core, and when
Speaker 2: you keep that together, then your mental physical is connected anyways.
Speaker 2: So keep that together, bro, and anything is sponsible. No worries. Man.
Speaker 2: You know we got and we're going to see each
Speaker 2: other more because you know, is that time we're celebrating
Speaker 2: what you did. I'm celebrating celebrating myself at the same
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