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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jana Kramer and I'mheart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is a really fun and exciting podcast because

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Speaker 2: we are in studio in New York with the Two

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Speaker 2: Jersey Jays, Jackie Goldschneider and Jennifer Fessler. Ladies, we've had

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Speaker 2: you on before, but it's so nice to actually meet

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Speaker 2: you in person. This is so fun.

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Speaker 1: Can we do this all the time?

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Speaker 2: Please?

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Speaker 3: I know we've never been to the iHeart studios.

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Speaker 4: Why no, no, I've never know.

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Speaker 2: Because wait, where do you guys do your podcasts?

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Speaker 3: We do it on Zoom.

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Speaker 4: Well, I go to gens or she comes to my house.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, I mean that's kind of how we do too,

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Speaker 2: Like the girls come over. It's so fun, but there's

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Speaker 2: something so much more personal of having a together, being

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Speaker 2: together in the city. So, and you guys are Jersey

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Speaker 2: Jersey Northern Jersey because obviously the two Jersey Jays, so

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Speaker 2: that means Jersey House born and raised.

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Speaker 3: No, She's like, not even close. I grew up in Texas,

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Speaker 3: which part Sugarland, Texas, Southwest Houston. There were sugar Land,

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Speaker 3: got the name the Imperial Sugar. Oh, the Imperial Sugar.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and then we're I grew up in Staten Island,

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Speaker 4: New York.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's to say.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you're not far from Jersey though.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and all of Brooklyn migrates to set Now and

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Speaker 5: then they migrate to central New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're going to get into all the things.

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Speaker 2: But we were just talking about because you were also

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Speaker 2: in We were in Wilmington last night for one trail convention.

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Speaker 2: You were in South Carolina. How do you guys deal

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Speaker 2: with flying? Not?

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Speaker 3: Well, well, that's not true. I have learned that a

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Speaker 3: xanax and a white wine go a long way.

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Speaker 2: So now you should do I really should. What do

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Speaker 2: you not like about it?

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Speaker 3: I'm just nervous. I just get very We're one. The

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Speaker 3: whole family were on the plane. I was sleeping and

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Speaker 3: I don't remember where were going, but we landed and

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Speaker 3: so it's the boom, and I was sleeping on I screamed.

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Speaker 3: My kids have never been that mortified. They were all

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Speaker 3: behind me and they're like, no, no, no. The whole

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Speaker 3: plane was like what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I rarely go places without my kids, so I'm fine flying,

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Speaker 5: but I have one who's a really nervous flyer, so

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Speaker 5: I always have to stay.

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Speaker 4: Calm for him.

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Speaker 5: So even if I am nervous, I always have to

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Speaker 5: act completely comfortable. But the truth is that I remind

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Speaker 5: myself that like ninety nine point nine percent of the time,

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Speaker 5: nothing happens from any of the turbulence.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is what's funny is because so before we

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Speaker 2: take off, our pilot comes out and he's like, hey,

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Speaker 2: we had really turbulent weather on the way here, so

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Speaker 2: just expect the same thing. And so that immediately I'm

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Speaker 2: like already white knuckling, you know, the seats, and that

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Speaker 2: attendant and I said, is this better than what it was?

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Speaker 2: Because I always want to talk to the flight attendant

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Speaker 2: because I'm just like just to be like, hey, are

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Speaker 2: we cool, Like how's everything going?

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Speaker 3: You know, Like, is it just makes sure you're like

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Speaker 3: work a relationship with her?

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Speaker 2: No, it's more just like I want to know that

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Speaker 2: we're we're not going to fall out of the sky, and.

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Speaker 1: She really just wants someone to tell her that, yeah, specifically,

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Speaker 1: we will not fall out of.

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Speaker 2: This guy yeah, and then she said what did she say?

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Speaker 1: Basically that ninety nine it's speed bumps.

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Speaker 2: She's liked, just think of it as speed bumps ninety

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Speaker 2: nine point nine percent of the time. I was like,

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Speaker 2: so you're saying there's a point one percent chance. Then

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Speaker 2: I was like, and that's that's what she hears.

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Speaker 1: And I am the mom that has to always be calm,

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Speaker 5: Not even it's not even the turbulence. Sometimes he asks

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Speaker 5: me like, how do you know that the pilot's not drunk?

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Speaker 5: And like, how do you know the pilot didn't like

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Speaker 1: How old is this sixteen? Okay, I mean that's a

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Speaker 3: It is a good question.

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Speaker 4: He's afraid someone's going to have food poisoning. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: you've watched airplane way too many times.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know, I feel like it's flying for me

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Speaker 2: has gotten worse since having babies. I like to fly

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everything gets more difficult when you have babies. Everything

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Speaker 3: takes on a new meaning, right, Like it's I don't

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Speaker 3: know if it's better if they're with us because then

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Speaker 3: we all go down together. But if we're not, then

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Speaker 3: they're left. Let's you know, this is getting more Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm always just like, oh, are thinking the mom I

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Speaker 2: could have had that, Like you know, I mean while

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Speaker 2: all our husbands are sound asleep exactly.

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Speaker 3: My husband loves turbulence.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Catherine is like our how I say, Bravo correspondent for

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 1: I usually don't talk a whole lot, but if we

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Speaker 1: get Housewives on, I'm like, okay, I got this one.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, So where do we even start?

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Speaker 1: We have got to talk about the season, like we

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Speaker 1: just need to like dive in. Okay, so give us

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Speaker 1: a little background on the season, okay, because I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying it was a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a toxic season. We won't talk about the

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Speaker 2: Well, well, can I just say something really fast? Catherine

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Speaker 2: was kind of like filling me in on some of

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Speaker 2: the stuff, and I was like, well, don't they want

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Speaker 2: toxic for the show, Like, isn't that what makes this

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Speaker 2: show well entertaining for people to watch? I know that

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Speaker 2: sounds terrible, which does.

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Speaker 3: Not sound terrible. I've been watching Housewives usually in the

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Speaker 3: morning time, and of course, like that's what you're waiting for, right,

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Speaker 3: You're waiting for it to get for everybody to make

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Speaker 3: I think we've probably discovered that there's like a line

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Speaker 3: So I think in Jersey everyone would agree that we

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Speaker 3: kind of crossed over onto the dark side a little bit.

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Speaker 3: In our opinion, we went a little far.

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Speaker 5: I think the fun seasons, the fun fights are the

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Speaker 5: and you can come back from them. On Jersey, I

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Speaker 5: what ended up happening is everybody split, you know, and

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Speaker 5: no one wanted to film with other people, and everyone

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Speaker 5: played again of icing people out, and it just became

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Speaker 5: It wasn't like any season that I've ever filmed before.

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Speaker 5: It was just very divided and very vengeful, and like

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Speaker 4: So it was just it was a tough season to film.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I love like I'm right now in the

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Speaker 3: middle of Orange County, and I mean I just watched

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Speaker 3: the last episode and they get down. I mean, they're

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Speaker 3: not playing when they're fighting. They're certainly like going for

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Speaker 3: it did. And again, it's all about I think with housewives,

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Speaker 3: right is like conflict resolution. You have to be able

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Speaker 3: heart have love for these people, not just animosity, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And I think I don't know, unfortunately, I think it's

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: It seems like you were hopeful to truth, like truly

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Speaker 1: for you. That would have been me. She walked out

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Speaker 1: in the middle of she they tried to bring them together.

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Speaker 1: It was not happening. They're all fighting, and She's like,

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Speaker 3: It's not just fighting. Like I think that you know,

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Speaker 3: you kind of have a responsibility when you sign up

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Speaker 3: for this for sure to be there for the good

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Speaker 3: and the bad. But everybody has the line that you

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Speaker 3: know they cross, they can't. I just it started when

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Speaker 3: it starts to get physical, Yeah, not so interested.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, there was.

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Speaker 4: Too much physical this season.

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Speaker 5: Like I don't want to be on a show where

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Speaker 4: That's not that's not for me. No, she'll be for anyone.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is like a totally different subject, but

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Speaker 2: I it frustrates me. Like I was always a big

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Speaker 2: now they take it so to the extreme that I'm like,

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Speaker 2: this is a circus and they're always just fighting. And

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Speaker 2: then I remember one of the big fights that they

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Speaker 2: I was like, hopefully they don't start this whole fighting

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Speaker 2: everyone now is going to start watching it to see

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Speaker 2: I mean that piece of it is that's toxic for sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like there should I mean, was there any ramifications for

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Speaker 2: the physical aspects, like any.

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Speaker 1: Not that I no.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I know after the first one, which was

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Speaker 5: mid season Bravo, the network didn't let them film for

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Speaker 5: what like a week.

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Speaker 2: That's not and I'm not sure what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, they don't do.

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Speaker 3: Any kind of violence, so we wouldn't really even know

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Speaker 3: how they're How they did deal with that is that

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Speaker 3: in that way, but they certainly don't condone it. But

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Speaker 3: also like it's we're in a different age, right, Uh,

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Speaker 3: everything is a little more sensitive, and I think back

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Speaker 3: in the day of housewives you could maybe get away

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Speaker 3: with more than you can now flipping a table like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So then y'all obviously did not do a reunion. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: first time reunion has not happened. Is that because certain

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Speaker 1: people refuse to film together or was it Rabo going.

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Speaker 4: This is now what I happened to everybody?

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Speaker 5: I think I didn't want the reunion to happen because

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Speaker 4: That was just my personal opinion.

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Speaker 5: But I think that everybody wanted the reunion to happen because, A,

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Speaker 5: they get paid a lot for the reunion. You know,

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Speaker 5: we're friends. We get paid a little differently, but they

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Speaker 5: Bravo fans are amazing and loving, like everyone we meet

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Speaker 4: Over all of the hates.

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Speaker 5: But I have to say by the time I came

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is hard, but like it's funny because I

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Speaker 1: That's just crazy to me because you truly try to

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Speaker 5: Like that unless you do something really really horrible to me,

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Speaker 4: I really don't.

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Speaker 5: I really strongly think that hate is a wasted emotion.

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Speaker 3: I love our arapists. I love, but just sort of

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Speaker 3: So growing up, I went to a performing our high

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Speaker 3: like you do and it's so easy and it's like

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00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 3: fun to hate, you know. But when you're looking people

441
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 3: in the eye and you're talking to them off camera

442
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 3: and you're kind of getting like you're sort of seeing

443
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,399
Speaker 3: their humanity, it's just different. And so I yeah, like

444
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 3: I just I didn't. I don't know if I was.

445
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 3: My intention was to make everyone like me and to

446
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 3: like everyone, but to sort of at least like see

447
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,640
Speaker 3: through the bs and try to get, you know, some

448
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,239
Speaker 3: kind of connection with the cast members. I'm like kind

449
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 3: of grossy myself out I'm getting so mushy.

450
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 1: But no, I loved that about you. I mean, I mean,

451
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 1: I love the drama, but at the end of the day,

452
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 1: the people that I'm going to like on the show

453
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 1: are able to be respectful to someone. I mean, it's

454
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,679
Speaker 1: like at some point, like we are grown adults, and

455
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 1: like you can walk in a room and just say

456
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 1: hello to someone you know, or you can try to

457
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 1: see the good and.

458
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's always difficult this season, Like I would walk

459
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 5: into a room and there was at least four people

460
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 5: who decided from the jump that they weren't going to

461
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 5: talk to me and they didn't like me, and there

462
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 5: was nothing I could say to them that was gonna like,

463
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 5: so what am I going to do when? Like, and

464
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 5: I feel like it makes the show so tense. You know,

465
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 5: when you walk in a room and you know there's

466
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,120
Speaker 5: four people on a cast of nine people who are

467
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,439
Speaker 5: not even going to look in your.

468
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 3: Direction, then it's scary hard.

469
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: It's also really hard.

470
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 4: To film a show like that.

471
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I had that at the end, Like

472
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 3: at the finale, I walked in, not the finale, the

473
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 3: non reunion. So I hadn't spoken to Rachel Fuda in months,

474
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 3: Danielle and I were not certainly not the best of friends,

475
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 3: and I had to walk into a room where I

476
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 3: knew that two of the four women sitting there were

477
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 3: not fans of mine, and quite honestly, I wasn't fans

478
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 3: of theirs. I mean, we've actually now we've reconciled, and

479
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 3: I'm happy to report, but like, you know, that's a

480
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 3: very intimidating thing. Yeah, like not really not the most fun.

481
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 3: And I definitely had I felt for Jackie because you know,

482
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 3: it's imagine that scenario walking in and facing people that

483
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 3: you know they're not fans. It is it's intimidating a bit.

484
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's why I'm I was just telling her

485
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 2: about something I saw someone that we both did like

486
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 2: each other. We both have reasons to not like each other,

487
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 2: and it's like they go out of their way to

488
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: even make it more uncomfortable to not like. And I'm like,

489
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 2: I have as much as we don't get along and

490
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 2: you did some terrible things to me, I can still

491
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 2: look at you and give a nod or like, because

492
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 2: there doesn't need to be the uncomfortable miss, you know,

493
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 2: Like I don't like that energy in general, So It's like,

494
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 2: I think there's boundaries. I don't want to talk to

495
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 2: the person, you know, and I don't want to let

496
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: this person back into my atmosphere. But at the same time,

497
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 2: I don't need to make it uncomfortable for anybody.

498
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: Well, even doing the one Tree Hill thing, you know.

499
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean there's been a lot of drama through the years, yes,

500
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: and division between the cast, but y'all are able to

501
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: come to these conventions and look past things and be

502
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 1: adults and get along. And I understand that. Housewives again,

503
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: I think what y'all said is it's crossed the line

504
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 1: this season. There's drama and then there's crossing that.

505
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 4: So as I viewer them, what did you think?

506
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 5: Did you think it was a great entertaining season or

507
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 5: did you think it was too dark?

508
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: Kind of both. I still enjoyed it, and I would

509
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: be very disappointed if the cast, but also like I'm

510
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: I was there if the cast broke up, because I

511
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 1: was there from the beginning. So you know, it is

512
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 1: kind of disappointing as a viewer to go. Man, really,

513
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: Teresa and Melissa can't like actually film, I agree.

514
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 3: I was. I've been watching since the beginning. Yeah, I

515
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 3: said I don't remember when I said, like they don't

516
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 3: know it, but like they've been friends of mine for years, right,

517
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 3: I feel like, you're you know, involved with these people,

518
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: and I think those.

519
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 4: Are the only two though that really can't be together.

520
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: Right, But I think that but that is the one,

521
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: and I get it. I mean, I understand, like I

522
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to film with the other one either, probably,

523
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: you know. But at the same time, like I think

524
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: as a viewer, it's like, man, we really want to

525
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 1: see dog maybe not resolution, but at least to be

526
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: able to be in the same room and to keep

527
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 1: the show going. And maybe there's still drama between the two,

528
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: and I know that's not healthy as a you know,

529
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 1: that's coming from a viewer, from a viewer going, well,

530
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: this would keep the show being I understand that's probably

531
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: not healthy for them because it's their personal life, it's

532
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: their families, it's all the things.

533
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 3: I mean, that's you know, that's a whole family dynamic.

534
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: I can't do that. I'm even yeah, that's.

535
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 3: Another level, right, it is. But I think that even

536
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 3: I don't think that Margaret and Teresa want to film.

537
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 3: Maybe they would, I don't think they would want to

538
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: film together again. I don't think that you don't want

539
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 3: to film with again me. Yeah, no, I don't have

540
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: that happily.

541
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 2: Do you do you have like sides when it comes

542
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 2: to Teresa or Melissa or what do I have? Size?

543
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 3: Well, after we wrapped filming, there was all of this

544
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: social media, just this crap that came out and things

545
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 3: that you know, my fellow cast members had done, and

546
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: so it all started coming out and I started to

547
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 3: feel just really kind of just disappointed in some of

548
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 3: my cast members. I think like at some point, you

549
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 3: can't try to ruin people's lives, you know what I mean?

550
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 3: And I just I saw some things that just really

551
00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,239
Speaker 3: turned me off. So from from who you mean? Well,

552
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: Janet Trees and I haven't spoken in quite a while,

553
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 3: but I just I'm not sitting here saying like, you know,

554
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 3: they're all bad or it's just these things that I

555
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 3: saw were just they were like a little scary to me,

556
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 3: and you know, if you could do it to this person,

557
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 3: you could certainly do it to me, and I don't.

558
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 3: I don't. There's other stuff. I mean, there were private

559
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: investigators and you know, there were people, there was there

560
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 3: were businesses that people were trying to interfere with and

561
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 3: you know, rumors and talking to bloggers and trying to

562
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,479
Speaker 3: put things out like it's it's scary shit, you know.

563
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 3: So but I never had like a big blowout with anybody. Yeah, so,

564
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,479
Speaker 3: would you guys go back? I'd go back if there

565
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 3: were changes, I wouldn't. I did not have fun this season.

566
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 5: And the truth is that, like when I first got

567
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 5: on the show, I was like, I'm going to be

568
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 5: a housewife and then the whole world is going to

569
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 5: be like knocking down my door. And that does not happen.

570
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 5: So it definitely in stores for you. But you have

571
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 5: to go after things. So I feel like once I'm

572
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 5: not having fun with it anymore. And if those doors,

573
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 5: if my foot is in the door of places that

574
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 5: I need it to be, then what's the point of

575
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 5: staying right if things changed.

576
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 4: I can't go back on a cast like this.

577
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 5: This cast was too hateful, too divided. I'm not saying

578
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 5: any particular people, but just the nine of us together

579
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 5: doesn't work. So if it was mostly that again, I

580
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 5: don't think I would go back. But I don't think

581
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 5: that's even an option. I think Bravo has said publicly

582
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 5: so many times, not Bravo, but Andy has said publicly

583
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 5: a few times that the cast is changing. So the

584
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 5: place that I'm at right now, I don't hate anybody

585
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 5: on this cast. I am open to relationships with every

586
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 5: single person on this cast. But I'm kind of enjoying

587
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 5: the time off. It's the most time I've ever had

588
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 5: off from the show. And I'm waiting to see what

589
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 5: Prava does because there's no point in even thinking about

590
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 5: who would I make up with, who would I do

591
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 5: this with until you know who's coming back or not,

592
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 5: you know, and that's all out of our hands.

593
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: Because do you talk to I mean outside of the

594
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: show besides Jen Ovius? Do you even really speak to

595
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: anyone on Teresa?

596
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm still friends with Jen. We haven't spoken recently,

597
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 5: but friends with Jen. I speak to Teresa and Jen Fessler,

598
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 5: and I text with Delras every occasionally once in a while.

599
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, my like I've had Melissa Obvius

600
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: on the podcast, I feel we have a friendly Instagram friendship.

601
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 2: Do you have a side between the.

602
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: Two, I mean as a viewer, I not necessarily. I

603
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: mean I love Melissa. I'll be honest, I do love

604
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: Melissa but I don't know, part of me still wants

605
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: them to make up.

606
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I think, Like when I say like that,

607
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: it's I believe everyone has a side. Yeah, And that's

608
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: like where I think, you know, we I think we

609
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: all have like even if we were to ever get

610
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: into something like you have your side, I have my side,

611
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 2: you know, and it's like, yeah, we both have our own, do.

612
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 3: It you guys? Oh no, no, whatever.

613
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 2: We are not. I'm just saying like just in life

614
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 2: in generally, you know what I mean. But like I

615
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: think you can have this person's side, you can also

616
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 2: understand and have empathy for the other side too. And

617
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: that's where I wish like these kind of shows. It's

618
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: like when I watch you know, any other you know,

619
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 2: housewives show or it's like I want people to see, Okay,

620
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: you guys have a little fight, but then you guys

621
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: can come together. Think, I like, I love a resolution,

622
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: like the non resolution stuff like it kills my like

623
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: PTSD part.

624
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: We were not in a good place. I mean, I

625
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: guess on the scale of housewife drama wasn't really that

626
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: high up there. But it was sad because we had

627
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: been We're so close our first season and it just

628
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: came apart and it got just it was so uncomfortable

629
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: and sad and we were both angry, and you know,

630
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: it really sucked. So the coming together is very sweet,

631
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: Like afterwards, it's very nice to be able to like

632
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: put it all away. And that's also part I think

633
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: of when you think about life, Like, if you have

634
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: friends that you really you have you have big fights

635
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: with you don't normally come back together, right, you have

636
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: no reason to. You live your life, I'll live mine.

637
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: But with housewives, you're working together. You're not just friends,

638
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: you're actually colleagues. So there's a reason to come together.

639
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: And then you do, and it's sort of like, oh,

640
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: I forgot how much I enjoy you, and I forgot

641
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: how much you know love there was right.

642
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 4: You know.

643
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 5: The problem is though it's like whatever happens on the show, okay, fine,

644
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 5: you're filming a show. It's afterwards the people who go

645
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 5: on podcasts and say mean things and then you don't

646
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 5: get your chance to respond. And like, I'm not going

647
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 5: to go on a podcast and respond to all of

648
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 5: that because I want to let everything die down. I

649
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 5: don't want to contribute to the era of like toxicity.

650
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 5: But like, for example, Melissa, I never had a big

651
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 5: fight with Melissa, but she went on a podcast and

652
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 5: said that she has picked me up off the floor

653
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 5: a number of times over the past few years. You

654
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 5: have never picked me up off a floor. Like we

655
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 5: had a nice friendship. But I can count on one

656
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 5: hand how many times we've spoken on the phone and

657
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 5: you said, hey.

658
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 4: Jack, just checking in you okay? You good. You have

659
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 4: never picked me up off the floor.

660
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 5: And when I hear something like that, I'm like, what

661
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 5: is this narrative that you're creating for the world to hear?

662
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 5: And that's what that upsets me much more than any

663
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 5: fight we could have on TV, you know, like you

664
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 5: telling the world that I was some like like helpless sap.

665
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 4: That you had to rescue that I don't like.

666
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: But the things that.

667
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 5: Happened on the show, like that happened on the show,

668
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 5: it's all fine, it's all good. I know what I

669
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 5: signed up for, you know. But so I don't know

670
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 5: where the cast goes from here. I know that I'm

671
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 5: good because mentally I'm healthy and I know how to

672
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 5: forgive and move on.

673
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not an idiot.

674
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 5: I don't forget everything, but I know how to make

675
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 5: a show also, so hopefully, I don't know.

676
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 4: I have faith and Bravo.

677
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 5: I think that they'll find some great new people, and

678
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 5: I think they'll know which people from our cast mesh

679
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 5: with them, and if naturally it's my time to go,

680
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 5: it's my time to go, you know.

681
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 4: But so I'm just leaving it in their hands.

682
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: It's like its own show, trying to figure out what

683
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 3: happens next, right, I mean, the show is over right,

684
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 3: it's wrap, but yet it's just sort of hanging there

685
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 3: in the universe. What's happened, what's going to happen, what's

686
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: the next episode? It's like, you know, we all think

687
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 3: about it all the time. It's it's just like a

688
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 3: puzzle that we're all trying to put together.

689
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: Hopefully they don't, well this is my opinion as a viewer,

690
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: but hopefully they don't completely recast it like New York. No,

691
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: I don't, and I've heard a few rumblings of that,

692
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: but I'm like, I truly hope not, because I think

693
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: that there are, like you said, there are a few

694
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: that could stay and get some other people in there

695
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: that could make it better.

696
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 3: For sure, that can't be easy, right to like recast

697
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: people have the people are so the viewers are so

698
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: invested in the original Like when they recast New York,

699
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: I am just a super fan in terms of those

700
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: you know, yeah New York women, those like ogs. So

701
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: they did a really good job of recasting. But there's

702
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: no way that could have been easy. They had some

703
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: big shoes to fill.

704
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: When you're starting over as a viewer, I mean, it's

705
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: just like it's like all these rors.

706
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: Your show gets, you know, like yes too, for example,

707
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: like Gray's Anatomy when like certain people go, You're like, yeah,

708
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,239
Speaker 2: I gotta like try to see if I can get

709
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: involved in this new character.

710
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: Now it's absolutely you know, and it's the one. It's

711
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: they're the shows now that actually last for a long time.

712
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: You're going to get a lot of seasons of it.

713
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: So it's like again like with like the Teresa Melissa thing,

714
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I'm just so invested, Like I can

715
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: imagine losing the Do.

716
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 4: You want to see a whole nother season of that?

717
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: Not the way it was, That's what I'm saying. That's

718
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: why I say if there could be a little bit

719
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: more resolution, and maybe not resolution, but a little bit

720
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: more like it got It definitely crossed the line. It

721
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: absolutely crossed the line, and I think most viewers could

722
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: agree with that.

723
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: So a lot of obviously our listeners are and we

724
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: get a lot of questions like how to fix female relationships,

725
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: So like what does your best advice to keep a

726
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: healthy female friendship? And then also if you want to

727
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: mend a relationship that you have lost, what would be

728
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: your tip to meend that?

729
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: I remember like hearing you know that you're not a

730
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: good friend, and I'm thinking you could say a lot

731
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 3: of things about me. I have a lot of faults,

732
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 3: but I'm not told very often that I'm not a

733
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: good friend. I haven't lost that many female friendships. I

734
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: mean the things Ebb and flow. I was just in

735
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: South Carolina with my two best friends from college, and

736
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: I was I started out at Boston University. Jackie went

737
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: there too.

738
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: Anyway, are you guys friends? Then?

739
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. I transferred to Texas back to but anyway,

740
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: so you know, freshman year, that's a long time ago

741
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: for us. So it's a lot of years of friendship.

742
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: And there were a couple of years in there where

743
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: I was just in a very dark place, and they

744
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: just both were so good at reaching out to me

745
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: and you know, trying to be there for me, and

746
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: I just wasn't having it. And I just about lost

747
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 3: these very very very important friendships because I was just

748
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 3: not a good friend. I wasn't you know, I just

749
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 3: sort of like isolated. But got them back because I

750
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: wanted those friendships back and thankfully they forgave me for

751
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: what went down. And you know, but I don't lose.

752
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: It's hard. It's not like the house. It's not it's

753
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 3: not easy thing to lose really good friendships. Something big

754
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 3: has to happen, right, Yeah.

755
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: So what would be your advice then? To mend anything

756
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: that is broken?

757
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: Or I probably like own your ship, you know, I

758
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 3: find that like if you if you're willing to own yours,

759
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: then your friend's going to be willing to own theirs.

760
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: Like not be so defensive. But listen maybe more, I

761
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: mean listen. I pay someone two hundred dollars an hour

762
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 3: to tell me how to do this, So no, I don't.

763
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 5: Know anythy I think you listen to what the other

764
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 5: person is going. Do you know that stupid saying that

765
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 5: you see all over the place, like be kind because

766
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 5: you never know what someone else is going. Like everybody's

767
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 5: got that they're dealing with, you know, so just understand that.

768
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 5: Like and I feel like if you hear other people

769
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 5: like people just want to be heard, you know, so

770
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 5: here where are other person's coming from? And then you

771
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 5: can get past it if you want to. You know,

772
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 5: it's when you don't really want to make up.

773
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 4: That you don't, right.

774
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: I feel like it's almost like that in like a

775
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: you know, even just a real relationship too. It's just

776
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: like a husband as well. It's like I might not agree,

777
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: but I can at least try to understand where he's

778
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: coming from, you know, and we could have you can

779
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: have different opinions about things and still have a respectful relationship.

780
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 3: And you're so the difference my marriage in terms of

781
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 3: like we're comparing marriage to friendship, you know, there is

782
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 3: we have people. So you have to have so much

783
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: in common with your husband. We have nothing in common

784
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 3: except that he loves the housewives. Like I don't even know,

785
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 3: Like we just don't. He's a crazy sports guy, he's

786
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 3: an attorney. I have zero interest in what he does

787
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: for a living. It's so boring to me. He is

788
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 3: you know, city whatever, but it doesn't matter. We have

789
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: kids and we have been through twenty five years of

790
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 3: marriage and adore each other. But friendships, they're female friendships

791
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 3: for me, and not just female friendships, male friendships too,

792
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 3: but they're just different. They are based on I think

793
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 3: shared experiences. You know, that's like my take on it.

794
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: Twenty five years though, I mean, what how what has

795
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: been the best tip and tool that you guys have

796
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 2: heard we were marriage.

797
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: So Jeff always says that it's not really it's like

798
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 3: twenty three and a half because we were separated for

799
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: a year and a half going back, this is this

800
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: is years ago. I really like him, like I don't

801
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: even know I love him. Of course he's you know,

802
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 3: my best friend, the father my children, blah blah blah.

803
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: But I we enjoy each other's company a lot, so

804
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: like we don't my my friends that go away in

805
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: a lot of like couple's trips, and I've done that.

806
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 3: But when I go away with just him, we have

807
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 3: such a rhythm after twenty five years and there's nothing

808
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: like you. We don't don't don't to think about it,

809
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 3: like we know we're getting up in the morning, he's

810
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,959
Speaker 3: getting the cough, and we're all about the three meals

811
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 3: that we're going to have that day, and there's a

812
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: certain amount of sight seeing we want to do. I'm

813
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 3: just I'm just saying like we are a rhythms now

814
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: are in sync, and also like we think the same

815
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: things are funny, and we just we're a unit, you know,

816
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: we're just we move.

817
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: What happens when you guys disagree though, like what do

818
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: you how do you how do you walk through disagreement? Hmm?

819
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: I say I'm right and he apologizes? Now no, no, no.

820
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 3: I Also, I mean I think as you get older,

821
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: like you do, learn to own your right. So like

822
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 3: I know when I'm being a bitch. Yeah, you know,

823
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 3: even if I am enjoying holding on to it, I

824
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: know when I'm wrong. The truth is, if we're being

825
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: really honest, I'm wrong way more than he is. Like

826
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: he's just he doesn't give anybody a hard time, whereas

827
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 3: I have my moments of just not being so nice.

828
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 3: But I think that like we both don't want to fight,

829
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 3: you know, it's like sucks when you're you know, this

830
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 3: is like this is your person. You're not talking and

831
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 3: it's just I don't know. Yeah, so I don't know

832
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 3: exactly what to say. I'm not I don't think I'm

833
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: like the end. I'll be all in terms of giving

834
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 3: out marriage advice necessarily, but I'm okay. I've learned to

835
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 3: be a pretty good apologizer.

836
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, No, I've been married eighteen years, and I

837
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 5: think we don't fight that often. But we have different approaches. So,

838
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 5: like I'm a talker, Like if something bothers me, I'm

839
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 5: going to want to like go through it with you.

840
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 5: And Evan's like the guy who holds onto everything until

841
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 5: he gets so mad that he'll explode. So he won't

842
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 5: tell me in the build up, right, So he'll just

843
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 5: wait until he's so mad at something. But I don't

844
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 5: think we've ever had a fight that we didn't grow from,

845
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 5: as cheesy as that sounds, like, we usually end up

846
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 5: in a better place than where we started after a fight.

847
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 5: So because I know the things that he's not happy about,

848
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 5: you know.

849
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 4: So, but we don't really fight that often.

850
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 5: We give each other a lot of space, and he's

851
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 5: I love watching him be a dad. So my kids

852
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 5: are sixteen and fourteen, and I sets the twins, so

853
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 5: I have two sixteen and two fourteen and I just love,

854
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 5: like I love watching him with them. So a lot

855
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 5: of our lives are still wrapped up in our kids.

856
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 5: So you know, I mean, as long as they're good,

857
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 5: there's nothing much.

858
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 4: To fight about.

859
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 3: I think that's so also key because like I am,

860
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 3: I appreciate him so much as a father. I had

861
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: a very weird relationship with my father. I think that

862
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 3: my kids are the luckiest kids because they have him

863
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: for a father. But like that is something that just

864
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: makes me love him so much, like watching how he

865
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: is with my daughter and with my son, and also like,

866
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 3: you know, it just I don't know, it just I

867
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 3: have so much respect for that. You know, I'm always

868
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 3: like the nuts, I'm always crazy. I'm always all over

869
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 3: the place too, I'm a helicopter mom or I don't know,

870
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: they call me millions of different things. But he's just

871
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 3: so steady and he's such a good father and there's

872
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 3: no replacing that, right. It just makes me back and

873
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 3: love him more.

874
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to have a balance. It's okay, the

875
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: hell you like? It's okay. I think for sure kids

876
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: need that balance.

877
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 4: Well, we all have the life three sixty on our phone.

878
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, same, yeah, Oh, my god.

879
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: I took my location off. My kids are like, why

880
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: can't I we see where you are?

881
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 4: Like, because you don't get that kind I'm fifty years old.

882
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: Like I just had that conversation with my kids. Yeah,

883
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: we have ours on, but I'm like, why are you

884
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: watching me?

885
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: And every time I was at like I don't even Marcus,

886
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 3: I get a phone call why are you? And even Mark,

887
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 3: I'm like no, but I live like this.

888
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 5: My son and a bunch of his friends to like

889
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 5: this far away basketball camp, like three hours away, and

890
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 5: I knew that, like I couldn't do my normal like

891
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 5: eighty and a sixty five because.

892
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: All their parents had my like my hour on their phones.

893
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: So I stress is nice and slow.

894
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 4: It's probably better.

895
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: I always do carpool for a bunch of girls for

896
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: cheer because it's like an hour away. And every time

897
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 1: I'm in the car, I'm like, come, everyone has life

898
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: thirty sixteen. I gotta floatad Sorry.

899
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: Girl, I love that.

900
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tennessee, I know, Yeah, what is what is the

901
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: the takeaway? You want? Like, what do you want people

902
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: to know like about either you the show. It's kind

903
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: of the closing the closing argument.

904
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, well I will say. I don't like to blame

905
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 5: things on an edit, but I do think that when

906
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 5: the edit wants to work a certain way, it will,

907
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 5: So I think this season it made me look strategic,

908
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 5: which I am not. I just really wanted to be

909
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 5: open to friendships, and the other people dropped me because

910
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 5: I was open to friendships. I'm not a bad person.

911
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 5: I think most people know that, yes, and I think.

912
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: That, you know, I got called it.

913
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 5: I did do what I did a few years ago,

914
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 5: for sure, but you know, I think that was like

915
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 5: all fair in the housewives world.

916
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 4: I don't think I did anything that like crazy. I

917
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 4: don't know.

918
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 5: I think people know who I am after six years.

919
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 5: You know the takeaway, I really want the show to

920
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 5: be fun again. I really do, because it was really

921
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 5: really fun for a few years for a long time,

922
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 5: even like Ireland, we had.

923
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: The best best Everybody always goes back to Ireland, so.

924
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 4: It was so fun. But even like the fight over

925
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 4: the pizza party in my driveway, that was petty, stupid fun.

926
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 4: Everyone loved it.

927
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: It was.

928
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 5: So that's the kind of stuff I want to get

929
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 5: back to, not this, you know, Yeah, I don't know.

930
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 3: I mean, we I've only I'm a novice like this

931
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 3: is only this was only year two for me. But

932
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: year one and year two were different in that I

933
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 3: did have so much more fun. So season thirteen was

934
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 3: a blast, and you know, I don't. I don't think

935
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 3: I was. I'm kind of like, I'm kind of like

936
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 3: the clown a lot, So I wasn't. I don't think

937
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: I was as much this season because just nothing was

938
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 3: that funny. There was nothing to be, you know, to

939
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 3: be sort of laughing about. But you know, so in

940
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 3: terms of a takeaway, if I if there is more,

941
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 3: if I'm part of it, I guess I would just

942
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: love it to be more like season thirteen, where we

943
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: had real moments of just real fun and real laughter

944
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: and you know, real friendship.

945
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: I think we all need to get back to Joy Amen,

946
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: Chase Joy, Yes, Amen, absolutely anything.

947
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think that's it.

948
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you ladies so much for coming

949
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: into the city. We appreciate you.

950
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just going to put it out there that

951
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 3: we'd love to have you all on two jerseys. Oh yeah,

952
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: I love, I love, we got We're turning this around. Okay, Okay,

953
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 3: I's okay.

954
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: Then now I know it's on my queue now to binge,

955
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: because are you going.

956
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 4: To come on as Teddy's friend? Are you friends with Teddy?

957
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: We were like friendly, Oh, I mean like.

958
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 3: You look a little alike, do we? Yeah, she's gorgeous.

959
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 2: You both are, thanks, but yeah, I mean we we

960
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: knew each other enough that yes, And it came up.

961
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 3: She was like, I can't imagine them passing you by.

962
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: I can't even imagine.

963
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: I get, I just don't think. I mean, I had

964
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: some drama with Max husband because he had a bunch

965
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: of affairs and stuff. So I'm like, I feel like

966
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 2: that side of things.

967
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 5: But it's just so funny because Teddy's, you know, one

968
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 5: of our producers and like her her dad. One of

969
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 5: his songs was my carry key song in college, and

970
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 5: like I always think about that when I like talk

971
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 5: to her or something. I'm like, God, like if I

972
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 5: had known when I was nineteen so good at a

973
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 5: dirty bar that like one day his daughter would be

974
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 5: somebody that I know, you know.

975
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so many of those life.

976
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 4: It's funny.

977
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is really crazy, but yeah, we'd love to

978
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: be yea And I'm gonna I'm gonna binge the entire

979
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: season now, so.

980
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: Just to me, you're gonna have to start from the beginning.

981
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm gonna start with.

982
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 3: But when he had an alcohol in the house.

983
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay.

984
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: Alan will be happy about it because he's now been

985
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: helping me watch ben shows like usually we were watching

986
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 2: the Mormon Wives. Have you guys watched?

987
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: Oh we should have talked about it.

988
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Alan, I just kind of caught him in the background.

989
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: And then when the finale episode was coming, He's like,

990
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: we're gonna watch the finale and I was like, are

991
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: you gonna?

992
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: Are you watch?

993
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: He's the one I kind of want to know what happens.

994
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 3: I'm on episode right now. I haven't watched, and now

995
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: it's getting good.

996
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: It's good. I have to watch a really good couple.

997
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,479
Speaker 3: So that gat was really good.

998
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: Perfect couple, presumed innocent is really good to watch it

999
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: really good.

1000
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 4: Yep, I didn't watch that.

1001
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: It's a movie or many ses MANI series.

1002
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: I got to watch. That is the end.

1003
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: I loved it, but I hear you never neither.

1004
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: But it was still great. Don't let it?

1005
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I love you girls, We'll see You'll

1006
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: see you on two Jersey Jays. Nay, goodbye bye.