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Speaker 1: On today's episode of Drive to the Draft Podcast, we're

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Speaker 1: talking interior defensive linemen. Man, they're big, they're mean, they're ugly.

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Speaker 1: We talk them all right now, Welcome.

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Speaker 2: To the Drive to the Draft Podcast.

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Speaker 3: I am just a guy, Jason sitting here with ten

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Speaker 3: here NFL VET Logan Halson and Logan. We are getting

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Speaker 3: ready to hop on a plane with producer Caroline and

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Speaker 3: a head out to Indianapolis because it's colm time.

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Speaker 2: Combined time, combined time, combine time. Easy for me to say,

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Speaker 2: and we want to see all these guys. Tell us

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Speaker 2: how long are your arms? Yeah, like that matters, that

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Speaker 2: really matters.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's such a funny time of year because

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Speaker 1: again that stuff does matter. It's important for like minimum thresholds.

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Speaker 1: Like I was reading something this morning about you know,

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Speaker 1: DB's like there's never been a successful dB in the

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Speaker 1: NFL who's run slower than a four six two. So

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Speaker 1: like that's important to a certain extent. But I'm not

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Speaker 1: expecting to see a lot of DB's running four six two.

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Speaker 1: You know, Like the arm link thing is a little

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Speaker 1: bit up and down, Like how effective it.

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Speaker 3: I gotta know, I gotta know measure those arms and

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Speaker 3: I need to make sure that the guy measuring the

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Speaker 3: arms isn't from Miami.

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Speaker 1: Apparently like he kind of jacked that up. That's the

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Speaker 1: word on the street. I don't know whoever.

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Speaker 2: It is a silly story. What a silly story.

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Speaker 1: It's a wacky bit. Like you know, ruben Bain all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden has normal armleng because they messed up

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Speaker 1: the measurement.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what we're talking about is that apparently ruben

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Speaker 3: Bain was listed at what twenty nine inches and a

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Speaker 3: half or thirdure like those are like my arms, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I'm five six, right, so like that doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, And but like apparently the guy that did

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Speaker 3: it for Miami like it wrong. Like how would you

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Speaker 3: even measure that wrong? Where do they start the measurements?

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Speaker 3: Apparently from the shoulder, from the middle of the.

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Speaker 1: Back, so they do it like you're measuring a coat,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like so like kind of

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Speaker 1: from the top of the shoulder down. But I have

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Speaker 1: seen scouts at different events, like from different teams, they

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Speaker 1: start at different areas, and I think it's just like

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Speaker 1: they were they were taught. That's where it's like everyone's

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Speaker 1: like taking this measurement is so so important, but like

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Speaker 1: you need.

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Speaker 2: To have thirty four inches. Some guys like measuring from

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Speaker 2: your ear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you're like, yeah, he's got thirty six. So

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Speaker 1: it is a funny thing. And it's like when you

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Speaker 1: talk to scouts, I go, so and so, trade me

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Speaker 1: to do it this way. So this guy, this this

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Speaker 1: tree of arm measurement tends to be a little bit shorter.

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Speaker 1: And apparently at Miami they sent like the the rookie scout,

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Speaker 1: like who's never done it before? And apparently he measured

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Speaker 1: from the wrong I don't know perfect, So we'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens. At the combine, they have a guy that's

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Speaker 1: the old you know, the old CD guy that spells

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Speaker 1: like skull that smells like skull mint, you know, tobacco.

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Speaker 2: Has just been measuring arms.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so he's got a good feel for it.

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Speaker 2: He just the arm measure man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all his think, magic tape measure.

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Speaker 3: Do you think this is all he does? Measure arms?

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Speaker 3: Just flies around it. Why not why not make that

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Speaker 3: a business?

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Speaker 1: That'd be a good bit though. I mean, that's all

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Speaker 1: you do. You're the arm measure My favorite thing that

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Speaker 1: happened since we've been covering the combine. You remember when

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Speaker 1: George Pickett was coming out picking picket, Yeah picket, the

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Speaker 1: quarterback for Pittsburgh. Is that him?

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Speaker 2: Uh picket from Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ny Pickett? Yeah. Ago.

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Speaker 2: I was like, that's all right, I don't have cyone.

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Speaker 1: And and he went to the Senior Bowl and he

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Speaker 1: had like, you know, an eight and a half inch hand,

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Speaker 1: and then he went to like a hand stretching specialist

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Speaker 1: but you know they're able to work some magic with

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Speaker 1: to make his arm longer. It's like, this is a

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Speaker 1: crazy story, is what? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: This is uh, this is what guys do when they

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Speaker 2: do their dating profile.

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Speaker 1: They stretched this.

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Speaker 2: They stretched the number a little bit right, Yeah I'm

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Speaker 1: I will say, I'm curious about a couple of guys

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Speaker 1: like weight wise, are they too heavy? Are they too light?

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Speaker 1: It'll be like that's always fun to get the action.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that there's someone that can teach you

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Speaker 2: how to stand on a scale to be lighter.

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Speaker 1: So there's tricks.

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Speaker 2: Because here's the.

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Speaker 3: Thing, Logan, we've gone off the rails. We re recorded

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Speaker 3: the intro and that is what we're talking about. I

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Speaker 3: go into the doctor's office, Yeah right, and I always

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Speaker 3: get upset when they tell me just stand on the scale,

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Speaker 3: just stand on it, just stand on it, Like you

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Speaker 3: don't want to take my shoes off?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like, dude.

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Speaker 3: See, I'm like, this doesn't make any sense. And not

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Speaker 3: only do they do my weight, they then measure me.

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Speaker 1: Height with your shoes on, with my shoes on.

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Speaker 3: So they're like, oh, yeah, you're five to seven and

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say the weight. And I'm like, that's

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Speaker 3: not even close to be inaccurate. You're a doctor.

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Speaker 1: So I have a funny story about Waynes So when

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Speaker 1: we used to do Wayans here in Washington, there's a

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Speaker 1: they'd either get in the sauna, they do a little

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Speaker 1: significantly overweight I'm talking like twenty five pounds of a lad.

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Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know if I'm gonna make it,

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna get technique for Wayne. So I went

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Speaker 1: there's a technique.

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Speaker 2: Man, I mean I think I think he deserves it.

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Speaker 2: I think he deserves to come in underweight for that technique.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was, he earned it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he hear it.

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Speaker 1: And then guys putting weights in their pants to make

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Speaker 2: I've heard of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, Well the comment the compin out there,

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Speaker 3: But first let's talk about defensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: YEP. Defensive tackles really exciting group. Kind of an interesting

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Speaker 1: I had a really hard time with when kind of

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Speaker 1: just was it was a very thin group in that

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Speaker 1: just a different type stylistically than what we've seen in

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Speaker 1: years past that go really high. And so part of

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Speaker 1: me wonders, how does the NFL value this group. I

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Speaker 1: think there's really good football players, specifically in the top

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Speaker 1: in the way that you know, traditional kind of three

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Speaker 2: I love it. Let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: Yep, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: We're going to do our top.

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Speaker 3: Fives right here, all right? Yeah, yeah, So I'll just

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Speaker 3: list them off and then we'll go through. All right,

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Speaker 3: So my top five are Zane Durant from Penn State,

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Speaker 2: And who's your top five?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Christian Miller would be five for me. Caleb Banks

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Speaker 1: Peter Woods would be three from Clemson, Lee Hunter from

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Speaker 3: Ohiose Okay, And you want me to talk about Zane Durant.

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Speaker 3: I do all right, Well, let me ask you this,

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Speaker 3: what didn't you like about Zane Durant?

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Speaker 1: So this was tough for me. This is a hard

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Speaker 1: be where my preconceived notions of the player hurt my evaluation. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I expected to go in after going to the

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Speaker 1: really twitched up, really aggressive, played with great forward lean

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Speaker 1: And I thought he did a great job making pressures

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Speaker 1: me very dynamic as a pass rusher. I expected something

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Speaker 1: very similar to Grayson Hilton from Oklahoma. And when I

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Speaker 1: and I watched them versus Ohio State, and I think

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Speaker 3: There, okay here's you know HOW i feel About Penn

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Speaker 3: think they're just completely, misutilized, Right so it's hard to

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Speaker 3: Because he's definitely a little he lacks size and length

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Speaker 3: has things that he needs to work, on especially polish

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Speaker 3: man here's why he's just up. There he just is

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Speaker 3: like this is a, freaky freaky, athlete like freaky. Athlete

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Speaker 3: like his burst is. Incredible it was almost Like i'm

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Speaker 3: not saying It's Chop, robinson but it's like you can

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Speaker 3: come Into Penn. State this, Crazy LIKE i, wrote wtf

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Speaker 3: he has surprising power and like a lateral movement that

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Speaker 3: nobody else has in this. Class so with all of,

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Speaker 3: That i'm, Saying, okay you got the. Athlete now can

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Speaker 3: we polish up the other? Stuff can we unteach The

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Speaker 3: Penn state? Stuff and do you have something? Here AND

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Speaker 3: i think you.

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Speaker 1: Do, Yeah SO i think that was the thing for.

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Speaker 1: Me it's just they use them on a lot of

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Speaker 1: like line movement, stuff specifically on first and second. Down

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Speaker 1: so he's kind of like kind of burrowing his way

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Speaker 1: the same way he did it The Senior, bowl you,

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Speaker 1: know AND i hear. You so he would be a

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Speaker 1: guy that at this at the, Combine i'd like to

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Speaker 1: feel BECAUSE i think THERE i, AGREE i think there's something,

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Speaker 1: just didn't know what to do with, it quite. Honestly

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Speaker 1: and so that's why that's very. True that's why to

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Speaker 1: me he's in this like he's in the honorable mention

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Speaker 1: group BECAUSE i, think, again there's, talent but he's a

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Speaker 1: rotational pass. Rusher can he do something for you on

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Speaker 1: in recent, History i've seen undersized defensive tackles who don't

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Speaker 3: What i'm saying is And i'm not. Disagreeing, No i'm

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Speaker 3: not disagreeing with. You i'm saying he is the best

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Speaker 3: god given athletic goods than anybody else in.

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Speaker 2: This defensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: Class now that being, said he doesn't have the, size,

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Speaker 3: Right so like what does that do do to?

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Speaker 1: You?

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Speaker 2: Right and he doesn't have the Polish, yeah so what is.

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Speaker 1: That do to?

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Speaker 3: YOU i don't. Know but WHAT i am saying is

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Speaker 1: This, YEAH i just, AGAIN i just for, Me i've been,

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Speaker 1: hurt you, know talk about the receiver being hurt by certain.

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Speaker 1: Things i've been hurt by black by poor hand usage

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Speaker 1: and like poor. Awareness does he have to play?

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Speaker 2: Detackle does he have to BE i.

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Speaker 1: Mean that would be the interesting. Question, yeah interesting question for.

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Speaker 1: Sure SO i don't, know but that uncertainty again has

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Speaker 1: pushed him down out of my top. Ten AND i

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Speaker 1: see a lot of the things you're talking. ABOUT i

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Speaker 1: just WISH i had seen more. Playmaking like you, know

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Speaker 1: we talked About Grayson, halton you, know From. Oklahoma that's

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Speaker 1: a point to. Me they're very, similar kind of, miscast

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Speaker 1: lots of, movement But halton makes plays AND i didn't

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Speaker 1: feel like that as significantly With Saint durant for whatever.

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Speaker 2: Reason, so, okay CAN i talk to you About Big,

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Speaker 2: Citrus Big citrus?

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Speaker 1: Baby all, right you.

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Speaker 2: Start us off. HERE i want to hear your.

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Speaker 1: Thoughts So Big citrus is. Big he's a big old hoss.

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Speaker 1: MAN i, mean what is he six' forties three. Twenty

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Speaker 3: Calling Him big citrus because his Name Is dominie Korn Or,

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Speaker 3: iowa state and that's.

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Speaker 2: His nickname he goes By, big Strus.

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Speaker 1: Big citrus and so he plays a true Nose At.

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Speaker 1: Iowa STATE and i remember watching the first game WAS

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Speaker 1: against SMU, or tcu excuse ME that, i WATCHED and i,

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Speaker 1: WAS like i don't know if he's. Got it he's

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Speaker 1: a little bit, heavy footed a little. Bit SLOW and

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Speaker 1: i Watched the arizona GAME and i, was, like oh

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Speaker 1: we got. Some coach because he's got great he assuming

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Speaker 1: he has great length because he uses. His, arm well

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Speaker 1: enough quickness to, be dangerous right to just kind of

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Speaker 1: squeak by turn those shoulders hold. The gap he's got

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Speaker 1: good knock. Back power he's got a sneaky pass rush

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Speaker 1: ability to him because he can kind of lean on

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Speaker 1: you a, little bit get that, push pull get. You

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Speaker 1: forward so he's number six on. My list, that's, right

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Speaker 1: six so kind. Of HALFWAY and i think the other

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Speaker 1: reason is THIS because I Think, Kristen Miller, Caleb Banks,

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Speaker 1: peter wood some of those guys are, better athletes like

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Speaker 1: better upside in terms of. Pass rush but if, you

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Speaker 1: are if you need a run stopping presence on first and,

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Speaker 1: SECOND down i think this is the guy. For you

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Speaker 1: AND think i think he has a little bit more

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Speaker 1: kind of, Quiet Athleticism like i'm trying to think of

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Speaker 1: a good Cop Like ted washington maybe who can again

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Speaker 1: just knows how to work the shoulders a, little bit

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Speaker 1: can use his length in a nice way get. To

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Speaker 1: edges and THE more i, watch them THE more i

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Speaker 1: KIND of i kind of respected his game and liked.

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Speaker 1: His game has, good instincts stiffs out, some screens things.

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Speaker 1: Like that, So Yeah, dominice orange very specific TYPE of,

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Speaker 1: nfl PLAYER but i think is a first and second

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Speaker 2: For, YOU yeah, I look i like them. A lot

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Speaker 2: i like. Watching Them h he's a big boy, and

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Speaker 2: man he knows how to use that size heis the

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Speaker 2: way probably.

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Speaker 3: Yeah big he will literally shove people around, like ragdalls

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Speaker 3: and his strength it's just eye. POPPING there i think

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Speaker 3: he has like little to maybe no technique sometimes with,

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Speaker 3: his hands like it seems like they're just kind, of

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Speaker 3: wild like where are?

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Speaker 2: These, Going SOMETIMES but i.

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Speaker 1: Think he gets them even though they. ARE wild i

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Speaker 1: think he gets them to. The spots and you see

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Speaker 1: his strength in, his hands which is SOMETHING that, i.

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Speaker 2: Mean he, is mean and you, KNOW what i think

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Speaker 2: he's got some pass.

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Speaker 3: Rush, moves YEAH so i think he has a nice

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Speaker 3: set of swims and a. Violent club he does a

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Speaker 3: nice stout. BULL like i think he's got something there

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Speaker 3: to be effective as a. Pass rusher and we were

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Speaker 3: talking about how there's not that.

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Speaker 1: Many as a. Pass, rusher well he.

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Speaker 2: Had four and a half SACKS three, Qb hits like

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Speaker 2: that's what that's what you're talking.

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Speaker 1: About for.

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Speaker 3: I'm, not, Saying like i'm not saying he's gonna have.

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Speaker 3: Eight sex i'm not even saying he'll have four and

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Speaker 3: a half sacks at the.

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Speaker 2: Next Level but.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying there's something there to be. Like, Threatening right

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Speaker 3: it's not just like you're in there just to. Run

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Speaker 3: stop you could run into, something HERE and i think

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Speaker 3: it's just. His strength just, does it and now he'll

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Speaker 3: get after it, pursuing too like he's got so he's

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Speaker 3: got a motor that goes double team seemed to be.

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Speaker 3: A kryptonite he didn't really know how to split him

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Speaker 3: Get through like that. Was tough but he isn't Gonna

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Speaker 3: be HERE'S what i.

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Speaker 2: WROTE here i said he's not gonna be everyone's cup,

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Speaker 2: of tea, but man he sure is my cup of.

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Speaker 3: Monster energy like he's just. Got that he's just got

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Speaker 3: that nastiness, IN him. I think and he Was On

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Speaker 3: felman's freaks number. Twenty five he's gonna just to his,

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Speaker 3: strength here like four, fifty bench six fifty squat three

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Speaker 3: sixty five clean and he's gonna have a thirty four, Vert.

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Speaker 1: Potentially so that's not. Not bad, SO yeah I think

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Speaker 1: i think we see him. Very, similar yeah he's just

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Speaker 1: a big old first and second down run stopping type

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Speaker 1: of player with some sneaky kind of sneak sneak like,

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Speaker 1: pass rush sneaky kind of run stunt elements to his

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Speaker 1: game enough to. Be dangerous like he's the, perfect candidate

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Speaker 1: because like when you get in these big nose guys

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Speaker 1: and you're like you're hamming in, the double hammer in,

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Speaker 1: the double and he's got enough quickness at the last

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Speaker 1: second to kind of peel and attack and edge and

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Speaker 1: get the guy to fall down and then use his

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Speaker 1: length and make. A PLAY so i like the player,

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Speaker 1: a lot like. The instincts the, more again THE more i,

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Speaker 1: watch them THE more i. Liked him, but yeah that's

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Speaker 1: my he's my what is he my? Sixth player, so

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Speaker 1: yeah like liked him quite. A.

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Speaker 3: Bit okay so our top three are, the same just in,

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Speaker 3: Different orders so let's just.

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Speaker 1: Go, With, Yours Okay Peter peter Woods, From Clemson lee

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Speaker 1: Hunter From, texas Tech and kate McDonald From. Ahouse State,

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Speaker 1: And MAN so i WATCHED the lsu Game For, peter

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Speaker 1: WOODS and, I, thought man this dude's an. Absolute stud

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Speaker 1: there's no way that he's not the first defensive tackle

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Speaker 1: off the board. Six three he's. Three fifteen he, can run,

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Speaker 1: he's twitchy he plays full back, on offense he plays

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Speaker 1: goal line quarterback like he is. An athlete. He can

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Speaker 1: if you WATCH the, lsu game he runs everything down his,

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Speaker 1: pursuit's awesome. He's. Physical like the, thing is THE more i,

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Speaker 1: watched him so he's played a lot of Football, at

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Speaker 1: clemson THE more i, WATCHED him i, was like why

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Speaker 1: do you only have? Three sacks why why can we

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Speaker 1: not generate any? Pass rush and so if there's a

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Speaker 1: player with, all like he's, Gonna, kill like there's no

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Speaker 1: doubt in, my mind he's gonna absolutely murder. The combine

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Speaker 1: the thing is like when You Watch, kristen miller when

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Speaker 1: You Watch dominique Orange Or rashaan benny Or Even, grayson

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Speaker 1: hilton there are elements of hand usage and pass rush that, You're,

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Speaker 1: like okay they've got a natural feel for. These THINGS

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Speaker 1: when I Watch, peter WOODS like i Almost Put kleb banks,

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Speaker 1: above HIM but i couldn't do it because he only

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Speaker 1: played Two Games, Kala Banks, peter woods THERE'S just i have,

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Speaker 1: some consternation in some anxiety about his ability to pick

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Speaker 1: up the higher level hand usage at the next level

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Speaker 1: because he's played a lot of ball and he just doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Do it, the athlete the pursuit THE football iq seems to.

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Speaker 1: BE there I just i worry about the lack. Of

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Speaker 1: production so you're saying that like caps is ceiling for

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Speaker 1: you as of, right now, Because again i've seen dudes

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Speaker 1: who are a Big time like Even Remember byron Murphy

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Speaker 1: from texas we watched a couple of, Years ago like

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Speaker 1: he was never going to be like a twelve, sack

434
00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,640
Speaker 1: guy but he had like good feels for, sitting doubles

435
00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,280
Speaker 1: hand Usage To, andandre sweat, remember him like the like

436
00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,280
Speaker 1: those subtle little, hand usages like he doesn't do. That stuff,

437
00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,840
Speaker 1: and Traditionally when i've played with guys and watch guys

438
00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,800
Speaker 1: that don't, do that they ARE fine, nfl players but

439
00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,000
Speaker 1: they're NOT great. Nfl players so if you, WERE talking

440
00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,640
Speaker 1: i know SOME people i was reading some stuff talking

441
00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,480
Speaker 1: about taking him in the, top ten, you know top

442
00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,719
Speaker 1: fifteen kind, of area like you want a difference maker at,

443
00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:51,440
Speaker 1: the Position and i'm not sure his technical ability matches

444
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,359
Speaker 1: that level of, Draft STATUS so i understand why people

445
00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,120
Speaker 1: are kind of lower. On him but when you watch

446
00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,520
Speaker 1: the splashes LIKE the lsu game keeps coming nd he

447
00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,119
Speaker 1: as five tockles in, that game, solo tackles he's running,

448
00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,520
Speaker 1: down screens he's making tackles on, perimeter slants like he's

449
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,760
Speaker 1: really driving guards back in. The backfield there's a lot

450
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,840
Speaker 1: there to like from. AN athlete i just the lack of,

451
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,480
Speaker 1: sack production the lack of nuance really perturbed me for

452
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:16,440
Speaker 1: where people are talking. About.

453
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,399
Speaker 3: Drafting, Yeah, Absolutely look i'm, gonna uh he's a three, hundred,

454
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Speaker 3: pounder Right so i'm gonna list off some things that

455
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Speaker 3: he DID and i want you to, give me like

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Speaker 3: your guttural reaction like that in, noise form how this makes?

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Speaker 2: You feel? All right so a three hundred pounder you

458
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Speaker 2: can run a four eight forty, SO.

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Speaker 1: Good i mean show and that shows up.

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00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,359
Speaker 2: On tape he has a thirty three introvert, love it

461
00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 2: four to. Ninety bench really nine hundred pounds squat.

462
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,960
Speaker 1: Nine, hundred yeah that's the most impressive thing you've said on. This,

463
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 1: show yeah nine, hundred pounds nine hundred.

464
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Speaker 2: Pounds, squat wow number five One feldman s freaklist.

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Speaker 1: This, Yere do i'm gonna start to cut. You off

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Speaker 1: you see every one of? Those metrics yeah on, The,

467
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Speaker 1: pheel yeah you see. It all it's just he doesn't rush.

468
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,120
Speaker 1: The past. It's weird five.

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00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,120
Speaker 2: Total sacks in his. Collegiate career that's.

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Speaker 3: At Five and i'm gonna, SAY this i agree with everything.

471
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,680
Speaker 3: YOU said i THINK he's i think he's a stud in, some,

472
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 3: ways right but like he if you're going to take

473
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,679
Speaker 3: a guy high and you're saying like he's the third

474
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 3: second best defensive tackle to class, like five and The

475
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,199
Speaker 3: Reason I'm I'm ishamar stewart got me because it, was

476
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Speaker 3: like you have all these, freaky traits but he were's?

477
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,399
Speaker 3: The production? Why not And now i'm worried that like

478
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 3: maybe it's just. Not there so, he's, draftable right, definitely draftable.

479
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:40,640
Speaker 1: No, doubt right.

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00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 2: He's going to be a.

481
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 3: Great piece but if you're going to say like he's

482
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 3: going to be a difference, maker tackle that is going

483
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,360
Speaker 3: to be a, top, fifteen right you gotta have the sack,

484
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 3: Things right like no one's sitting here, saying, like oh

485
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 3: well only, five sacks like oh third, Round, right no.

486
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Speaker 1: He's good he's a First round he's a top forty

487
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 1: five player. For, sure YEAH and i would and for,

488
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 1: my money he's a top twenty, five, player right probably

489
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 1: going in the. First round he's. A. Freak yeah but

490
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: when people like Why is caiden McDonald run stoffing Like Or,

491
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 1: lee hunter like they their productions about, The same you

492
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: KNOW what, i MEAN and I think cad McDonald And

493
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 1: lee hunter do those other things technically on the defensive.

494
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 1: Line better and so that's why Him And kayleb banks

495
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 1: are so similar, to me, Right Right caleb banks is

496
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 1: like this physical freak that can do. Everything right and

497
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 1: the Thing About peter woods is he shows you some.

498
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 1: Freaky stuff like there's A play i think IT'S versus

499
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: i don't, even remember but he's the they're on the

500
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 1: right hash the screen to. The left he runs down

501
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 1: the receiver and absolutely smokes like this, maybe yeah and

502
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: just clean shop like. Offensive LINEMAN just i, was, like dude.

503
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 1: THAT'S amazing i, love that like the, physical violence the

504
00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: all these. Different things but you just don't don't rush. The,

505
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: Passer yeah like it's not it's not like you, don't

506
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,719
Speaker 1: creates you don't even. Create pressures it's just. A weird

507
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: it's just it's a weird thing to watch with that

508
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: kind of athlete and that kind of dexterity and that

509
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 1: kind of. Movement Skills So i'm i'm shook. BY it

510
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: i think he's going to be a, good player like

511
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 1: a fine player IN the, nfl level but it's that

512
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: the production Really is he's going to go To the combine,

513
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: This week Jason. And murder he's going to Murder. The,

514
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: combine like there's no like he will murder because he

515
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: shows up, on, Film right but it's a production With

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Speaker 1: The shamar stewart is a really really good.

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Speaker 3: Comp form, all right let's Talk About lee hunter Out Of.

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Speaker 3: TEXAS tech a lot Of Good. Texas Tech d.

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00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 1: Linemang, Crazy yeah so While Watching, lee hunter FIRST game,

520
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: i watched didn't really, like him kind. Of whatever and

521
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: then THE more i, WATCHED him i, was like he's

522
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 1: the best player on. The defense and this is a

523
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: defense With Like david Bailey and rodriguez and, you know

524
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: the other edge rushers and the other defensive tackle has

525
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: Got A draft ball Grade For Skyler, Gil, Howard RIGHT

526
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: so i look at THEM and i, was like the

527
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: way he plays, double teams the way he uses. His

528
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: hands he's got thirty four. Inch arms you feel every

529
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 1: inch of. That length he's got a really nice feel

530
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: for tackles for. A loss he had eleven tackles for

531
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 1: a loss. Last season like just a really impressive kind

532
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: of nose guard player and very disruptive and his ability

533
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: to compliment And Supplement david bailey like on first and

534
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: second down to like kind of cover up some of

535
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 1: his issues as a. RUN player i just, was like

536
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: he's the reason the. Defense works and so IN, the

537
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: nfl if you want to get the, third downs you

538
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: need to be good on first and, second Down And

539
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 1: lee hunter has that down to. A science AND again

540
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: i think there's some stuff with his hips and, some

541
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: tightness but he uses his hands so well he's able

542
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 1: to get out of, those situations especially versus, double TEAMS

543
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 1: which i was really. Impressed BY so i did not

544
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: want to like him BECAUSE again i think he's got,

545
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: tight ankles, Tight HIPS but i came out of this thing,

546
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: being like whatever magical instinct you have to like see

547
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: through the block and find the ball carry and feel

548
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: the tension to throw. Him DOWN like i watched him

549
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,719
Speaker 1: At The, SENIOR boy i watched. THE practice i went

550
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: back and watched the practices that, we HAD and i,

551
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: was like he is doing this against the best offensive

552
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: lineman in. The country he's doing it versus the Guys,

553
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: At utah he's doing it. Versus EVERYONE so i got

554
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: to value it because it's just the production is on

555
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: par with the best defensive tackles in the.

556
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: Draft, CLASS yeah i actually thought the same exact thing

557
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 3: that you said is there're a lot of the Criticism With,

558
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: david bailey who is arguably the best. Pass rusher Him

559
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 3: And reuben bain are kind of up there with. Each other,

560
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: is That well bailey just the run game is just not,

561
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 3: His thing and, it's, like, well Yeah Well lee hunter

562
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: just cleans, that, up right because HE'S a plus tackular

563
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: really just elite run defense. On him he has like

564
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 3: a fire hydrant, like, build right like, very yeah just

565
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 3: like but it looks like it hurts if you. HIT

566
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: him i think he's six one. Three, THIRTY yeah i,

567
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 3: remember correctly right and like and but like. Evenly, distributed wait,

568
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 3: you know like it's. Not big he's.

569
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: A refrigerator he's.

570
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 3: A refrigerator it's a great way to. Put it and

571
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 3: it looks like it hurts when you. Hit him, and

572
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: uh he's, just yeah he wins at the point of attack,

573
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 3: with anger and he has a. Legit, ball yeah like

574
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 3: a legit push. You back you're not stopping.

575
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: THIS bull.

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00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 3: I mean there are some things that are red flags,

577
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 3: for me as, you SAID like i think he lacks an.

578
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 3: Agilogy agility that would speak probably to the hip tightness

579
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 3: that you're talking about. AND whatnot i don't know about

580
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 3: like his other pass rush abilities other than that bowl

581
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 3: which is. PRETTY devastating i don't know what else he.

582
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 3: Has there, but sorry he's six three and a half by,

583
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: the way six three and, A, Half okay BUT like

584
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 3: I just i love that. He is you could if you,

585
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: draft him you can put him. In going we got

586
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 3: a run stopper, right now, right now. Day one he

587
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: is going to elevate our run.

588
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: Defense.

589
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,959
Speaker 1: Immediately yeah and the reason he's Higher Than dominique orange

590
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: for me is he's just he's. More productive he's got a,

591
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: Better feel like that's really the difference between the. Two

592
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: PLAYERS and i think he's got, quicker feet not necessarily,

593
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: powerful feet but, quicker feet and but very. SIMILAR players

594
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: i Just Think lee hunter does it in high definition

595
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: as opposed To old grady, you KNOW digital tv.

596
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 2: Or whatever that is, all right and number one is

597
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 2: the same for both.

598
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: OF us, I mean, kane McDonald he was a guy

599
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: again you go into the PROCESS and i think this

600
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: again speaks to the draft class as a whole. THIS

601
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: year i just.

602
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: Went really real quick real quick before you go yeah,

603
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 3: for me this is just. For me Wide Receiver Carnal

604
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 3: Tait ohio State styles Killem styles ohio sounds Huh O high.

605
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: States, defense NOW so i want.

606
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: To start off before we talk about they have two,

607
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: draftable corners, uh huh.

608
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 2: Before Talking about.

609
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 3: Kanan McDonald can we talk about because this is a

610
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 3: LEGIT question i have at, some point are we over

611
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 3: hyping the player themselves because they are in such a

612
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 3: good defense over like that that all the pieces help.

613
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: Each other LIKE if i take kan McDonald and i put,

614
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 3: THEM one i don't know, lsu, Yeah right are we

615
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 3: seeing the? Same player or because he Has garbil Reese

616
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: And sonny Styles and caleb downs like, surrounding him is

617
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 3: he able to be what he? IS now i don't

618
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 3: want to take anything Away from. Cady McDonald he's my,

619
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 3: number one he's your. NUMBER one i just as a,

620
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: thought experiment is there something to like this defense is

621
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 3: so dominant that we're ranking these guys high because they

622
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 3: can do the thing that they do well and they're

623
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 3: not asked anything else but to do.

624
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: THAT thing i think it's impossible to know that, Question

625
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: right and it's one of those things where they probably

626
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: are helping each other out quite. A Bit sonny? Styles

627
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: maniac is he a Maniac because cad McDonald's playing in front? Of?

628
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 1: Him Right can cat McDonald's have sixty five tackles? This

629
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: year sixty five tackles for a? Nose Guard, jason like

630
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: that's unbelievable Because arvl reese is setting such good Edges

631
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: and caleb downs is covering, the back, you know like

632
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: they are. WORKING together i will Say with, sonny's like

633
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: if we're going through, Each Prospect sonny styles is an

634
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: elite prospect because he does linebacker things at a very

635
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: very high level irrespective. Of, defense right he respect of.

636
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: A SCHEME and i feel the same Way about. KATE

637
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: McDonald i have not watched a more effective player versus

638
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: the run Probably since i've been, Doing this like his

639
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: feel and. His like so remember we, talked about like

640
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: if you're, true nose you got to have some lateral

641
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: movement and some ability to, like run like his ability

642
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: to move quickly, understand doubles and like watching Him, versus,

643
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: indiana like if you, HAVE time i don't even know if,

644
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: it's online go watch that game. It's on he's the

645
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: he is the best player on the field and he

646
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: plays freaking. Noseguard like he is, so disruptive he's so

647
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: physical and so, TO me i was, like that that's

648
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: the best defensive lineman in. The, Class Now, peter woods

649
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: does he have? Higher Upside Does caleb banks maybe have a? Higher,

650
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: Upside sure i'll give, you that Right Dis christian miller,

651
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: Potentially maybe but in terms of production in college and

652
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: all the things we just talked about that were bad

653
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: with the, other guys talk about a nice thick, lower

654
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: half ability to get into, the quads getting into, the

655
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: ankles split, double teams get the, shoulder skinny work the,

656
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: pads like and have enough quickness to kind of. Be

657
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: damaging nine tackles for loss in that Defense At. Ohio state, come, On,

658
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: MAN like I know i'm preaching to the, choir here

659
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: but he. Was excellent now do they all help each?

660
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: OTHER out i think there's probably a good argument, for, that,

661
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: because again when you look at, that defense r F

662
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: l re sets excellent edges in the, run game so

663
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: he can get to those footballs a little bit easier

664
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: in terms of some of, those tackles but in terms

665
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: of inside, run defense he was very. VERY impressive i mean.

666
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: Explosive power let just ragged alls guys like literally just

667
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: throws them around like there's nothing you. Can do when

668
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: he gets that like immediate pushback off the ball when

669
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: HE has i think he has really really good ben.

670
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: IN depth i THINK that's i love that you said

671
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: that because like we talked about. Being, hippie yeah like

672
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: kind of that ability to sink and access your Hips

673
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: Like lee hunter doesn't really. HAVE it I think kate, McDonald,

674
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: like hey think when we watch the bags at, THE

675
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: combine i think you'll see a guy that can turn

676
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: and still about him his frame a little bit and

677
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 1: do some nice. Stuff, there yeah which speaks to his.

678
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 3: Body control and here's the THING that i loved about

679
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: him with the run, game obviously as you mentioned the

680
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: nine tackles for the lost sixty five tackles.

681
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: Are insane is.

682
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: His eyes, YOU know i can't really see, his eyes

683
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 3: but you can tell they like lock one to where

684
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: that runner is and he's just a heat seeking missile.

685
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: Towards it there's nothing that's going to stop him from

686
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 3: getting to. That ball he is just, the motor, The

687
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 3: conditioning he's just got all.

688
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: Of It like i'm having a hard time with this

689
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: because in the most Recent mocks i've seen most, You Know,

690
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: daniel jeremiah You know brugler From, the athletic he's not

691
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: been in the top thirty. Two PLAYERS and i think it's.

692
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: PRETTY wild i think that's. A travesty after watching the film,

693
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: and again they have access to information forty time offield

694
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: stuff that we.

695
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: Don't have is there something that can happen at the

696
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: combine this week that would drop? Him down is he?

697
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: TOO slow i mean he's a he's, A noseguard, Like, yeah.

698
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: Like so what would? It be what would he have

699
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: to run for you to, be, like.

700
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: Oh probably like he ran a five, To five i'd, be,

701
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: like oh. Heads up but if he runs a five,

702
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: To two i'm five. To, three whatever you only got

703
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: to run ten, yards man your. NOSE card, i.

704
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: Mean he does need polish as a, pass rusher if,

705
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: YOU will i.

706
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: Do think so we talked. About, upside yeah we're sorry

707
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: to cut. You, OFF yeah i think he's. Got enough

708
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: he doesn't have, great twitch but he's got enough twitch

709
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: to grow in. That area so maybe, you know we

710
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: were Talking about Dominic go orange being like a four,

711
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: sack GUY three. SAT guy I think kate McDonald could

712
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: be a six eight sack guy in the right kind,

713
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: of system right kind, of environment which is in this

714
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: class again with zero really true pass rush, Defensive tackles

715
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: i'd take that in the.

716
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: First, round yeah. For sure he's going to interview. Really

717
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: well you want to? Know?

718
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 3: WHY why i know that he's an ambassador For the ronald.

719
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: McDonald house is He? Really yeah he does a lot

720
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: of off field, charity WORK and i think that this

721
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: is one of those things that you look at and, You're,

722
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 3: like okay this guy's got his head screwed.

723
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: On STRAIGHT so i don't know if you've talked. About

724
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: this we'll maybe do This. In indianapolis but this is

725
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: always the WEEK where i find it's so interesting where

726
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: everyone gets all enticed in the forties and all. This

727
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: stuff but my favorite thing, to do my favorite thing

728
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: of all time is Look At daniel jeremiah's mock before

729
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: the combine and look at it after and people, are,

730
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: like well how did this guy get into the top?

731
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: Thirty two it's he didn't run a fast forty you

732
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: know what? He did he just interviewed his. Face, Off

733
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: yeah AND so i think he might be a guy

734
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: that is all of, a sudden maybe he's in that

735
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: top twenty five after. The Combat and i'm not.

736
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: Saying he does charity Work for ronald McDonald ows he's

737
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: any ambassador. For it they don't just, pick, those right

738
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: you have to. Earn THAT and i think he's got

739
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: his head screwed. On straight he's going to be a, CHARACTER.

740
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: Guy, i guess is the way you get football, payer

741
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: yep and a great.

742
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: Football PLAYER so i think, this guy by the end

743
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: of the combine is definitely gonna move up the.

744
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: Draft boards do you see him outside the? First round?

745
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: That's insane is that what you're saying outside the?

746
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: First?

747
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: Round DUDE so. I looked i looked at four mock

748
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: drafts were coming to do the. Show today you know

749
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: how many he was in the first round of Zero

750
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: zero and now he's going to easily be, IN there

751
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: i think post right because but right now you Get

752
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: More peter woods because, the Upside More caleb banks because

753
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: the upside in The first but there's going to Be

754
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: no i'm just telling You what.

755
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: I'M going i understand, the UPSIDE but i think, THAT nah,

756
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: I mean i. Don't know i'm just. A guy let

757
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: me just, Say that i'm just, the GUY but I

758
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: would i would be shocked.

759
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: If one draft night he doesn't go in the. Top

760
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: twenty i'd.

761
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: BE shocked i think that's the THING that i after,

762
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: after watching after watching the Tape Of, peter woods and

763
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: the athlete's going to, be crazy but the production kind, of,

764
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: Middling Right, Lee hunter, Production's CRAZY but i worry about.

765
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: The Athlete with, CADEN McDonald i don't. HAVE that i

766
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: don't have any. Of those he is a he's a

767
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: specific type. Of player he's not going To Be. Aaron

768
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: donald he's not going To Be. Chris jones he's not

769
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: going To. Be simmons he's not that type. Of player

770
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: and maybe that's why teams don't want to take him

771
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: in the first round because he's like talk about, devaluing

772
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: linebacker devaluing. Running back people do have devalued run stopping

773
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: defensive tackles that. High LEVEL but i think they give,

774
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: You something they give you a skill set, that's very.

775
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 1: Very valuable AND do i think he's a top. Ten?

776
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: Player NO do i think he's? Top fifteen? Probably not

777
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: but is he a first? Round? Player yes in, My,

778
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: OPINION yeah.

779
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: I agree with, you there it's going to be interesting

780
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 3: to see how things shake out after. The combine, once

781
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: again we're.

782
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: Going there and the other thing it's going to be

783
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: so fun that we get to do sorry, one second

784
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: is we're going to get to watch all. These guys

785
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: and so We've seen, chris McClellan we've seen, You Know,

786
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: Rashawn Benny, Daryl. JACKSON crayson i want to see how

787
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: they look Compared to cad McDonald because remember remember last

788
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: year We Saw tyke williams and, we're like who the

789
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: heck is? That? Guy right and he went in the. First? Round,

790
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: Yeah RIGHT so i think like this might Be a,

791
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: ohio state, you know five picks in the first round.

792
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: Type deal that would. Be insane that would. Be insane it's, very.

793
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: POSSIBLE though i think it's, very possible ESPECIALLY because i

794
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: mean we haven't gotten into linebackers or. Safety YET but

795
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 3: i honestly believe at this Moment That caleb downs may

796
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: be the best play air in, the draft Just bar

797
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: non pound for Pound Or. Jeremiah, Love, right Like if,

798
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: i'm Doing if i'm tearing out what you've kind, of

799
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 3: Seen if i'm tearing out and it's Like. Blue chip

800
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 3: it's just those few guys for me, right now like that,

801
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 3: could change but so very. Very possible that's.

802
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: A safety, so crazy crazy, deal man.

803
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 3: Very possible, all, Right man we're going to be Out.

804
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 3: In indianapolis will, be fun and we'll bring you podcasts

805
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: every day after every single positional group does their drills

806
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: and their measurements will be in and we'll tell you they're. Forty,

807
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 3: times unfortunately we won't know how. They INTERVIEW but i

808
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: have a feeling That the ambassador To the ronald, McDonald,

809
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: ouse yeah that's a real. QUICK thing i wanted to

810
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: mention you bring it up On The command center pod

811
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 3: that will come out Tomorrow. On wednesday but that the

812
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 3: interesting thing about the combine is that it's so fun

813
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 3: seeing how these guys move and being able to see

814
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 3: them do the drills in succession right next to. Each

815
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: other you could really differentiate how someone moves compared to.

816
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: The next but the two most important things about, the

817
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: combine we just are. Not privy and SOMEHOW the nfl

818
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: has made this an event for fans and people, like

819
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: us and we just don't even get the, important part

820
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 3: which is. The medical, any interviews we just have zero access.

821
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: To those.

822
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: It's true, and again sometimes we're able to talk through

823
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: some of our connections and make, it work but we're

824
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: not going to. Get EVERYBODY and i always love like

825
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: post draft when, it's, like oh this guy actually had,

826
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: you know this crazy medical or he had this crazy

827
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: interview or whatever, it was and all that information is

828
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: is the point of this event and we don't, get

829
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: it which.

830
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: Is, tough YEAH when i first went there four years ago,

831
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 3: WITH you i was baffled at HOW many i would

832
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: say head coaches just weren't present at, the drills because

833
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 3: when you're there in like, the suites they put underneath

834
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: what team, it is and a lot of head coaches.

835
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: Were there but then YOU and i would, be there

836
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 3: we'd be like watching like the second group of linebackers,

837
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: or whatever running their forties or doing whatever to lie

838
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: drill is and the suits are cleared out because it's

839
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: ten o'clock at night and they're all going to get

840
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 3: dinner or do, their interviews so they're just not.

841
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: In THERE and i.

842
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 3: Used to think, to, myself man this, is important why aren't?

843
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: They here AND then I was you told, me, like

844
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 3: well they'll get in, on film and like it doesn't

845
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 3: matter if you watch them run. A forty you just

846
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: need to see, The time like you don't need to.

847
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: See IT and i, was like. That's true and then,

848
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: you're like also they're going to. Interview, them yeah like

849
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: which is which is more more advantageous? To them so

850
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: like we're just here because we're schmucks that just like

851
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 3: seeing guys move around and doing high. School, drills yeah

852
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: but like. They don't it's not that they, don't care

853
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 3: it's just they.

854
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: Have way more.

855
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: Important, things Yeah like JACKSONVILLE. In la they don't send.

856
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: Anybody UP and i Talked to we're Talking to mike McDaniel,

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Speaker 1: about it and he, WAS like i don't like to

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Speaker 1: go to. THE combine i like to go for, the

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Speaker 1: INTERVIEWS which i zoom in, On anyway but he said

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Speaker 1: the main thing IS like i don't want to. BIAS

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Speaker 1: myself i don't want to see somebody in person talk,

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Speaker 1: with them fall in love. WITH them i want to

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Speaker 1: kind of, keep it keep it in the. Same vertical

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Speaker 1: so they're all getting evaluated under the. Same PARAMETER so

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Speaker 1: i thought it was kind. Of, interesting yeah that is.

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Speaker 3: Really, interesting well, Not us we're gonna watch every drill

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Speaker 3: and then we're gonna podcast about it every.

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Speaker 1: Day every day by which is.

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Speaker 3: Always fun the first set of drills Are, on thursday

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Speaker 3: so the first pod come will come for You on

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Speaker 3: thursday Night or, friday morning because sometimes the drills go

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Speaker 3: pretty late, at night so we'll get it up either

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Speaker 3: early in the Morning on Friday or, thursday night and

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Speaker 3: then we'll do that every day Up.

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Speaker 2: Through.

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Speaker 1: Sunday, yeah man it's gonna be a lot of fun

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Speaker 1: and talk to you then in the meantime. That's it