1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: You introduce yourself by a sentence, and then I give 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: you a formal introduction, but the sentence is your version 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: whatever you want to say of Hi, my name is Dylan. 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: My name is Katherine Tappman. I can't. I forgot to 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: even bring that up, that I meet Dylan. She gets 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: invited to a dinner, and then we sit down at dinner, 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: and I think three to four times I call you Katherine. 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: I did it multiple times when we sat down at 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: this like twenty person dinner and you were across So 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: it wasn't even just like turning to you and saying it. 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: It was me shouting at across the table, how is 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: your food? Katherine? Yeah, you're You know, you don't always 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: have to say somebody's name in a conversation, but you 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: were like flippantly just saying Katherine or tapping I know, 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: and I that's not even something that I do. But 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: here I am calling you by your name when I 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: don't even need to it. And then it wasn't your name, 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: confidence Okay, Hi, my name is Catherine's happened? And I blank, Okay, 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: here we go, Hi, everybody. I'm Dylan Dryer, a brave 20 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: meteorologist who likes to stand outside and hurricanes. Also the 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: co host of the third hour of Today. Hello everybody, 22 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: and welcome back to Off the Beat with Me your host, 23 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: Brian Baumgartner. I am so happy that you're here today. 24 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: You guys are gonna love this episode, and I mean 25 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: love it because well, yes, that's right. Today we are 26 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: celebrating Valentine's Day on Off the Beat. Now, Valentine's Day, 27 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: it's not just about romance, No, it is very specifically 28 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: about eating can the hearts, making new friends, and and 29 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: telling them that you love them. So I am so 30 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: excited to have my new bestie on the podcast today, 31 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: NBC's very own Dylan Dryer. You might recognize Dylan from 32 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: her work on well pretty much every NBC news show. 33 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: She's worked on, MSNBC Today's Show, Weekend, Today, Today's Third Hour, 34 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: nightly News, and she hosts her very own TV series 35 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: Earth Odyssey. This is what I love about this podcast. 36 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: It enables me to really talk and get to know 37 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: so many new people. I had just met Dylan at 38 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: the Hilton Grand Vacations Tournament of Champions golf tournament down 39 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: in Orlando, Florida. If you look at my Instagram, you 40 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: will see she she gave an excellent weather report exclusive 41 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: content for me. We got to know each other and 42 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: we bonded almost immediately, and I found her so fascinating 43 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: the combination of entertainment and of real science meteorology. For 44 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: some reason, I never put those two things together. It 45 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: was a fascinating talk we had there. I wanted to 46 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: bring her on the podcast to dive in more. I 47 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: promise you are going to learn something today and learn 48 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: that you love Dylan Dryer. This was such a fun conversation. 49 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: We get into everything from reporting natural disasters to even 50 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: her love story with her former cameraman. I'm so excited 51 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: for you to hear this. Let's get to it, Dylan Dryer. Everyone, 52 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: Bubble and Squeak. I love Bubble and Squeak on Bubble 53 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: and Squeaker cooking at every month, left over from the 54 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: nut before. Hello, Hello, how are you? Dylan dry Now, 55 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: let me ask you this, is it contractual that you 56 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: have to have the peacock in the background there? I know, 57 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: I just think it's actually really cool. It's like my 58 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: own little piece of stained glass art. Well yeah, but 59 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 1: it's like literally right over your shoulder. So the entire 60 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: time I get to stare at the NBC peacock. Was 61 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: that going to be that? Or it was gonna be this? 62 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: So I thought this was a little much missing the cloud. 63 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: I think both. There's your husband, Brian, the most supportive 64 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: guy on the golf course. That is an understatement. Um 65 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: Dylan Dryer, co host third Hour of the Today Show 66 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: and NBC News meteorologist. Y I like having a full title. 67 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: I want to get into that in a little bit, 68 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: but I want to start going backwards to your your childhood. 69 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: Now let me say this part. Well, one reason I 70 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: wanted to have you on is is you're awesome. But 71 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: also I don't learn things that much anymore, and you 72 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: learned me things when we were together there in Orlando. 73 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: Well we'll get into that in a minute. But you 74 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: grew up in Jersey. Yeah, in Manti Lapping its pronounced Manalpate. 75 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: Why correct me this early? There's be many more mistakes 76 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: like that. You sounded silly. Yeah, that sounds way better. Well, 77 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: let me ask you this. What were you interested in 78 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: as a kid? Yeah, like sports or or are I was? 79 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up with two older brothers, so 80 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: I was into sit in doing anything they were doing. 81 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: You know, I was like the little sister who just 82 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: wanted to you know, bother them all the time. But 83 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: they were big ato baseball. I played softball since I 84 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: was five years old. I remember starting on an all 85 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: boys league because there were no girls playing for some reason. 86 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: I remember just having all boys on my team. Um, 87 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: but not really thinking anything of it because I grew 88 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: up with brothers, you know, I never never thought anything 89 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: other than I want to play t ball, so this 90 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: is where I'm going to play t ball. Um. So 91 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: I was, you know, definitely grew up more as a tomboy. 92 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: You know. My my dad built the house we grew 93 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: up in. It was in the middle of the woods. 94 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: Like when you think of New Jersey, you think of 95 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: just outside New York City, you know, but we we 96 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: grew up on like four acres of property in the 97 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, on the side of town. Nobody lived. 98 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: It was my brothers and me. There was an apple 99 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: orchard across the street. We would go and steal apples, 100 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, and it was just it was like this 101 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: weird country lifestyle that I grew up in. Was that 102 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: out is that New Yar Pennsylvania? No, it's right like 103 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: literally right in the middle of New Jersey. It was 104 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: an hour from New York, in an hour from Philly. Okay, 105 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: So were you interested at all in performing? Like, did 106 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: you do any play? No, because you have brothers and 107 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: you did brother things and picked apples on the weekend basically, 108 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: And I'm not a performer, you know. I wasn't that 109 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: kid where you know, your aunts and uncles would be like, Oh, 110 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: she's gonna be you know, she's she's going to do 111 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: something in the spotlight. I mean, I'm I'm shy by nature. 112 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,559 Speaker 1: I'm kind of reserved. I'm not the kind of person 113 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: who runs into a room and look at me, you know, 114 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: a type of personality I sort of. I like being 115 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: a wallflower until I get comfortable, until I you know, 116 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: pick out the people I can kind of jive with. 117 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: And so I mean, it really is bizarre. And my 118 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: mom and dad still think it's weird that I do 119 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: anything in TV because it's just so like Auntie, who 120 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: I was growing up? Right, Were you interested in science? Yes? 121 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: I was interested in science. Um, I actually we went 122 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: to school for engineering. I loved math. I love science. 123 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: Records had a great engineering program, so it seemed like 124 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: that's what you do when you like math and science. 125 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: But engineering just didn't. There was no field of engineering 126 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: that I really liked. I just didn't enjoy it. I 127 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: didn't see myself doing it in the future. And there 128 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: was like a meteorology one on one class. I'm like, oh, mom, 129 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: this sounds fun. Let me try this. And it turns 130 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: out all my math credits and science credits transferred over 131 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: to meteorology, and I sort of just fell into it 132 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: that way. There's a lot of math and science and meteorology. Yes, yeah, 133 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: I mean, computers do it all now, but I, because 134 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: of my education, know what the computers are doing. But 135 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: I'll never have to actually use that again. Right now, 136 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: does one become a meteorologist? I mean I guess they do, right. 137 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: There are meteorologists who are not on television right Oh 138 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: yeah no, And I was actually not. Again, I'm not 139 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: someone who likes to be in the spotlight. So I 140 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: was never going to do TV weather. That was I 141 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: was going to do research or forensic meteorology. You know, 142 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: you work for a law firm, and you know somebody 143 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: says there was a I slipped on ice. It's like, well, 144 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: let me go back and look to see if there 145 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: was actually ice that day or conditions were favorable for ice, 146 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, in the exact location where you're saying you slipped. 147 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: I was thinking National Weather Service or you know, private 148 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: forecasting companies who work for you know, PLoud truck drivers 149 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: and landscapers and all that kind of stuff. So it 150 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: wasn't until I had an internship at CBS w CBS, 151 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: the local CBS in New York, and then I was like, oh, 152 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: this is kind of fun. So you get to like 153 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: do all the science and look at the maps and 154 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: do your do all your homework, and then you actually 155 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: get to talk to people about it. So it just 156 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: seemed like something that was going to be fun. What 157 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: was it about meteorology that you like just that it 158 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: allowed you to apply a lot of your skills or 159 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: was there something specifically about about the weather. Um. I 160 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: just think it's really fascinating. I love how it works. 161 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: I love you know. I talked to a lot of 162 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: kids about weather, and I just because they're so fascinated. 163 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: They just are in awe if it's snowing, or you know, 164 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: you go play outside because it's sunny and it's warm. 165 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: I can literally answer any question they have about the weather, 166 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: and I love I love being able to do that. 167 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: It's just the science of how weather develops and why 168 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: there are clouds and thunderstorms and hurricanes. I just it 169 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: just makes so much sense in my brain, and I 170 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: like being able to talk about it, and especially in this, 171 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: you know type of role where I worked in local news. Yes, 172 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: I can make a forecast, and I actually make pretty 173 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: good forecasts, you know. I like looking at the computer 174 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: models and being able to tell people exactly when it's 175 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: going to rain or when it's gonna do what it's 176 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: gonna do. But I also get to explain what can 177 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: be a complicated science in a way people can understand. 178 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: I like to use analogies. I like to use everyday 179 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: objects to as props to to explain why things are happening, 180 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: to just sort of make it more fun and understandable 181 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: for everybody. Like when you asked me in in Florida 182 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: for a forecast, right, yes, I was actually like the 183 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: next day, really proud of my forecast. I mean, I said, 184 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: it's not going to rain till like three o'clock, and 185 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: it's sprinkled right at three o'clock, and was kind of 186 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: cloudy and looking like rain all day, and I'm like 187 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: hitting Brian, my husband, you know, I'm like, my forecast 188 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: was spot off, Like I was really proud of myself. 189 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: Well that's the thing I actually think. How do I 190 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: say this in a way that well, there is no 191 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: really way to say it except you guys have done 192 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: such a great job of dumbing it down and simplifying 193 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: it for people that I don't think people understand how 194 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: complicated it is. Like you have done meteorology a disservice 195 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: by making it seem like you look up at the 196 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: clouds and you're like, Okay, this is what's going to happen. 197 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if this is the right 198 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: time to do it, but this, to me, this this 199 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: is what you learned me for sure. When you see 200 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: some uh weather forecast on whatever weather dot com or 201 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: whatever NBC Internet set you're on, and it gives you 202 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: a percentage of rain at two o'clock for tomorrow, what 203 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: does that mean? If you look at your iPhone app 204 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: and you pull up right now, if it's a thirty 205 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: percent chance of rain in your area, chances are you're 206 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: in the clear, Like your se in the clear. That 207 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: it's not going to rain, but in your general area, 208 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: there's a thirty percent chance that somebody in your general 209 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: area is going to see rain. Okay, So let me 210 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: give you an example. So earlier this week, it's snowed 211 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: in New York City. Okay, it was snowing down in 212 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: Battery Park, like at the southern tip of New York. 213 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: I was in Midtown at the time. It was not 214 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: snowing in Midtown. So I would say, like a thirty 215 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: percent chance of snow was pretty accurate for Manhattan. Okay, 216 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: I didn't get it. Probably would have hedged my best 217 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: that I'm not going to see snow anyway. But you 218 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: go downtown and it's snowed. It's like, all right, well 219 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: they did say a thirty percent chance of snow, and 220 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: you know it did snow in Manhattan. I'm with you, 221 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: are this is how this is how I heard it. 222 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: I think that the way a lay person looks at 223 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: it is like there's a thirty percent chance it's going 224 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: to rain, and so there's yeah, there's a greater percentage 225 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: that it's not going to rain. But I think what 226 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: was interesting to me about what you said is like 227 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: they have them it is going to rain. It may 228 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: not rain where you're standing at that time, but it's 229 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: going to rain exactly in the summertime, like you have 230 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: pop up thunderstorms, you know, and and literally it could 231 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: be raining in one town, in the next town over 232 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: it's not raining. So if it's a thirty percent chance 233 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: of rain and I go play a round of golf, 234 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to assume it's not going to rain. There 235 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: will be rain around, but I'm going to assume I'll 236 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: be in the clear. But if it does rain, it's 237 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: I I guess I just kind of got screwed on 238 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: that one. So you know, it ended up reading where 239 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: I am. Um, So you intern at CBS in New 240 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: York and you start thinking, oh, this is something that 241 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: I could do, Like this is a specific way that 242 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: I could use my meteorology degree. By the way, that's 243 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: a really hard word to say. I said that before. 244 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: It's hard to type out to it is because a 245 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: lot of ohs um, Now did you then begin pursuing that. Well, 246 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: you first off, you you graduate, you get a degree. 247 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: Is this a hard major? No, it's a tough major. 248 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: I mean, like you take four years of calculus. I 249 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: mean it's it's intense. Yeah, No, it's it's a legit, 250 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: like Bachelor of Science degree. And again I went to Rutgers. 251 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: So Rutgers, you know, you could go to some schools 252 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: that have a broadcast meteorology degree, which then you get to, 253 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, work on your broadcasting skills. I but Rutgers 254 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: was very research based, you know, it's it's kind of 255 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: a research school. So for me, I like, mine's like legit, 256 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: hardcore like research meteorology. Did you have any broadcast meteorology classes. No, 257 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: not at all. You had to apply to the School 258 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: of Communications if you wanted to do anything in broadcast, 259 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: which just seemed like a lot of work. So I 260 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: had no TV skill, no public speaking skills, like literally, 261 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: and I'm shy, like I had no reason to go 262 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: into TV whatsoever. Right, So then what happens. You go 263 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: to CBS and you think, well, this is kind of interesting, 264 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: and then what do you do? Do you take classes? 265 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: Do you know? So? Um? So I was working with 266 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: Craig Allen over there, who you know is a well 267 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: known meteorologist in New York and he was famous, Yes, 268 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: in New York. He knew somebody who went to the 269 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: local news station in all the New York and he said, listen, 270 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: they'll let you use their studio to make a demo tape. 271 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: So I remember driving out there with my mom picking 272 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: out like the perfect outfit, which looking back, I mean 273 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: it was a black turtleneck with a purple suede blazer 274 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: um and a big chunky necklace, you know. I mean, 275 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: like that's a good look. That's gonna get me the job. 276 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: So I go out there and I'm nervous, you know, 277 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: I tend to get nervous before everything I do. And 278 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: I go out there and they give me the studio, 279 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: the green screen and all that, and I start, I 280 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: start trying to talk, and I can't, like the words. 281 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: I can't even make up a sentence. It's like I've 282 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: never spoken words before. I just get such stage fright. 283 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: And there's people around, and this guy who I don't know, 284 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: who's letting me use the studio is kind of standing 285 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: off to the side trying to like give me pointers. 286 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: My Mom's no help, and it literally takes till their 287 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: six pm news is coming on, but they're like you 288 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: have to go, like I hope you have something you 289 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: can use. And I had to go, and I just 290 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: cried all the way home because I said, I just 291 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: I ruined this chance to make this demo tape. But 292 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: sure enough it was on a VHS tape. I put 293 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: it in like these yellow, little you know, VHS boxes, 294 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: and I shipped them to sixties seventy little small markets 295 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: all across the country. Never heard back from anyone until Lincoln, Nebraska. 296 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 1: The ABC station in Lincoln, Nebraska called. They said, why 297 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: don't you come out, you know, and do a demo 298 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: in person. So I go out and I do the demo. 299 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: But the other guy who's also applying for this job 300 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: happens to be there also, and he's like good, he's smooth, 301 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: he's confident, you know, he's doing a great job. And then, 302 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, stupent me goes up there and again I'm 303 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: like stage fright city with like this Jersey accent, you know, 304 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: high pitched, squeaky voice. And so then the general manager 305 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: takes me out for lunch to do our interview part 306 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: of this whole thing, and we go across the street 307 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: to a McDonald's. Keep in mind, when I got picked 308 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: up at the airport in Lincoln, Nebraska, I'm thinking local news, 309 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna get picked up in a limo. You know, 310 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm like waiting to get picked up in a limousine. 311 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: It's local news, it's big time, Like this is just 312 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: so cool, and it's like some girl in her you know, 313 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: Toyota Corolla picks me up at the airport and I 314 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: was like, this is interesting. So we go to the 315 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: McDonald's and the guys like, are you nervous? And I said, no, 316 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm not nervous, you know, trying to be all confident, 317 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 1: and he's like, then, why is your face as right 318 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: as that that French fry carton? And I'm like, I don't. 319 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like what do you say to that? 320 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: And how do you like go forward with any kind 321 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: of confidence. So, needless to say, I didn't get the job. 322 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: I remember calling them like two weeks later. I'm like, hey, 323 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: I just wanted to follow up to see if you 324 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: selected somebody, and they're like, oh, yeah, we hired somebody else. 325 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: Oh you you called up for the no when they 326 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: tried to give a silent no, I know. Oh it 327 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: was the worst. It was just awful. And I'm right 328 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: out of college and it was just I mean, it 329 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: was it was bad. Was it the camera that made 330 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: you nervous? Was it that? Because that could be very intimidating. 331 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: I mean even for people who are actors. And you 332 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: know what, I've talked a lot about the show about 333 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: transitioning from say theater into film and television. You know, 334 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: the camera is a different thing, and playing to the 335 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: camera is a different thing. Do you think it was 336 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: that or was it the people that were around? Or 337 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: I think it was certainly certainly the camera, because I 338 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: had never spoken to a camera before, and it's lifeless. 339 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's no reaction. You try to make 340 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: a little joke and there's there's nobody laughing on the 341 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: other end. You know, it's just a silent camera. But 342 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: there were also you know, producers around, and I like, 343 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: my mind is like, what are they thinking of me? 344 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: Like they're judging me. They're obviously sitting there judging me, 345 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: and I'm doing terrible. And I love my mom to death, 346 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: but she's not the most reassuring person in the world. 347 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: You know, she's like m hmm, not great, Like how 348 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: is that one? Mom? You know, it's like something to 349 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: make like something to make me feel more comfortable and 350 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: give me a little nugget, but no, it was just 351 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: a struggle and I couldn't. I couldn't get through it. Wow, 352 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: So do you do you keep going at this point? Yeah? 353 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: I keep going. I keep sending out more tapes and 354 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: I just I'm so grateful that the NBC station in Erie, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, Erie, Pennsylvania, 355 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: and I drove out there and something just felt different. 356 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: It just felt it just felt right. You know. I 357 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: showed up in this town I've never been in before. Again, 358 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: I've got my mom by my side, and Phil Hayes 359 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: was the news director at the time, and we just 360 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: we just clicked better, you know, we could talk. I 361 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: felt more comfortable. I did my little demo. Yes, I 362 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: was nervous, but He's like, you know what, I could 363 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: tell you're nervous, but I know you're new at this. 364 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: We'll get you a voice coach, you know. And he 365 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: was like he could see potential in me and was 366 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: really going to foster that and he was going to 367 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: put in the extra effort to get me where he 368 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: wanted me to be. And that's what I spent the 369 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: next two years doing, was just whoever would take me 370 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: under their wing. And and Lisa Adams was the main 371 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: news anchor at the time, and she took me under 372 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: her wing. She invite me over for holidays with her family, 373 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: and I just I felt like I belonged and I could. 374 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: I wasn't great, but I was able to, you know, 375 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: get over that initial greenness that you have when you 376 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: first start in this business. Now, maybe he just liked 377 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: you or whatever. But do you think that your serious 378 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: meteorology degree from Rutgers was a contributing factor in that? 379 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: Like the education? What percentage of local meteorologists have a 380 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: trained degree? Well, I'd say lately, I'd say lately a 381 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: lot more stations require that people have a meteorology degree. 382 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: I think it's something to advertise. I think it's something 383 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: to put in all your you know, your ads for 384 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: your show, like, oh, we have the most meteorologist in town. 385 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: So I do think when I got into TV, that 386 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: was becoming more and more a requirement. It wasn't just 387 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: that you wanted, you know, some pretty girl to come 388 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: on and do the weather like you actually had to 389 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: have something to back it up. So that certainly helped. 390 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: And I knew what I was talking about in the 391 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: erie is like really a tough market to forecast four. 392 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm just familiar with the weather in 393 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: the Northeast having gone to records, and you know, I 394 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: could offer my service as a meteorologist, you know, in 395 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: a good way for Erie, Pennsylvania. Right. Why is Erie tough? 396 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: Lake effects snow? I mean, it's just it's a weird phenomenon. 397 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: Um lakes effect snow, lake effect snow. Um. So it's 398 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: just it's a what no I'm saying. Okay, so like 399 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: I've never I've no now I've learned something new a 400 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: lake effects snow. So does the lake effect the snow? 401 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: Is that why it's called lake effect. It's so funny 402 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: because to me, it's like saying apple like it's lake 403 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: effects snow. So like say, it's not going to snow. 404 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: It's not going to snow. It's not going to snow 405 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: because there's not enough moisture. I can't snow. You're saying 406 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: it it's not going to snow. But if you have 407 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: a wind off the Great Lakes, you know where the 408 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: water temperature is kind of warm, all of a sudden, 409 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: you have the moisture you need for it to snow 410 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: because you have cold air and you have now a 411 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: moisture source. So moisture in the in the lakes, the 412 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: Great Lakes helps fuel your need for snow. So it 413 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: dumps snow on areas that are right along the Great Lakes, 414 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: like Buffalo, you know, Inland a little bit like Syracuse, Erie, Pennsylvania, Cleveland, 415 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: because of the lakes, they get snow. If there were 416 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: no lakes, they wouldn't have snow. Like the Land of 417 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: ten Thousand Lakes, Minnesota, it snows a lot. Yes, Is 418 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: that because of lake effects now or those? I think 419 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: you need a bigger I think you need a bigger lake. 420 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: Tried it. I like, I like the connections you're making 421 00:23:40,040 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: the you go so you're an Eerie Pennsylvania. That's a 422 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: that's an NBC station, Okay. And you learn or you 423 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: begin to learn your craft. You take voice lessons. Do 424 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: your voice do your original voice for me. I don't 425 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: even know if I can get it that high anymore. 426 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: H It's it's a different It's more the way I 427 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: said things, you know, So if I was going to 428 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: say the word water, I would have said water. You know. 429 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: It was just like water. It's just yeah, like that. 430 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: It's just a very regional accent. So the goal with 431 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: the voice coaches to get rid of your regional accent. Yes, no, 432 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: I know I'm from the South. I have I've experienced 433 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: with that as well. Uh so then you start moving 434 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: around Providence, Boston. Now are these because they're bigger cities 435 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: that you're moving Yes, So my Michael was to get 436 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: back to local news in New York. You know, that's 437 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: the ultimate dream. I didn't think it was ever going 438 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: to happen, but that was the ultimate dream. Um. So 439 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: after I mean Erie, Pennsylvania, I was making maybe sixteen 440 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year, um, you know, but it was 441 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: like where I learned that I learned to cook because 442 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't afford to go out to eat. I learned 443 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: to budget because I couldn't jack the heat up. Because 444 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: it was just you know, it was like just a 445 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: really good learning experience, life experience to like be just 446 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: out on my own, living in an apartment in a 447 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: strange place by myself. Um. But then it was okay, 448 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: I think I'm ready for the next step, and I 449 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: wanted to get closer to home. So at this point 450 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: sent out, you know, a few more tapes and for 451 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: some reason, and like right away I just got a 452 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 1: job in Providence, Rhode Islands. Also the NBC station they 453 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: had an opening and I got the job. So all 454 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: of these were NBC okay, and then very strange, I 455 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: don't know why. And then how long? How long were 456 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: you there? So I was in Providence for two years, 457 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: and then there happened to be an opening in Boston. 458 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: And again at the time, Boston was market five. So 459 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: to go from market fifty, which was Providence up to 460 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: market five. I mean, now I was finally making that 461 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: major jump into a major, major market. Right are you 462 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: doing nightly news? Are you doing morning? Are you doing 463 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: always done mornings? I was doing weekends and erie, and 464 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: then I moved to mornings in Providence, and then through 465 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: a whole backstabbing situation, I got moved to weekends, and 466 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: that was like a whole there was. There was drama 467 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: in Providence. Yes, that's the title of a new movie, 468 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: There's drama and Providence. It was just, you know, I 469 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm just a nice person. I'm nice to people, you know, 470 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: and people are usually nice. I tend to associate with 471 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: nice people. It just seems like the way the world 472 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: should work, you know, just everybody be nice to everybody 473 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: but Providence. I worked with a lot of people I 474 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: absolutely adored one of my dearest friends I met in Providence. Um, 475 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: but I also realized that there are people who are 476 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: out to get you. And you know, I was doing 477 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: weekends and then I got moved to weekday mornings, and 478 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: then somebody else wanted that position and new somebody in 479 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: power who could move me back to weekends and slide 480 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: open that you know, slot for for her. So I 481 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: just remember it being like, oh, this kind of stuff 482 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: can happen. I mean, this, this really stinks. So you know, 483 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: I have silly things like I had vacation approved, but 484 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: oh no, sorry, you have to fill in for so 485 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: and so now, you know, I mean it just it's 486 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: like but I had, you know. So it's like that 487 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: life experience where it's not all going to go your way. 488 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: There's gonna be some some roadblocks, which also motivated me 489 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: to get out of there. Like I remember, that's when 490 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: I was searching for an agent. I wanted to get 491 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: out of Providence. I wanted to you know, move on 492 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: to something bigger and could just kind of get away 493 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: from the whole situation, which I was able to do 494 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: so local news people have agents. Yes, Okay, that isn't 495 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: a joke. Yeah, because you're because you're moving around markets, 496 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: and yes, you don't always know what jobs are open. 497 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: You don't know the inside scoop on who's leaving and 498 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: what job is about to open up. Your agents obviously 499 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: have relationships with all the news directors in the in 500 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: the bigger markets. I mean, i'd say, once you get 501 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: over market fifty, you kind of need an agent to 502 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: get to some of the bigger markets, right, And so 503 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: you decide to get out and go to Boston, this 504 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: is the top five market. Did you ever see yourself 505 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: staying in Boston? Yeah, So my now husband Brian was 506 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: my cameraman. We all worked on morning news, and I 507 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: mean it took a while. So I had worked in 508 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: Boston for probably like four or five years before Brian 509 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: comes into the picture. Because Brian's actually like six years 510 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: younger than me, so he was still in college. Like 511 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm like successful, you know, making indecent money. I owned 512 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: my own house. I'm like, you know, things are going good. 513 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: And then this like this kid keeps showing up in 514 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: the weather office and just sort of hanging out, and 515 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy just telling me stories about like 516 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: what he's doing with his friends. And it's like he's 517 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: such a colle like he's such a college kid, Like 518 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: he's just who's this stupid kid who just keeps showing 519 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: up in the weather office. But he was funny and 520 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 1: he made me laugh. And there was a group of 521 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: us that we'd go out after the new news at 522 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: one o'clock in the afternoon. We're all hanging out, you know, 523 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: having drinks and having a good time. I don't know. 524 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: It was after like, after several years of us just 525 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: being friends, something just clicked and I'm like, I don't 526 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: really care that he's six years younger than me. He's awesome. 527 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: He's funny, it makes me laugh. He's nice. And like 528 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: a year later we were engaged and we were looking 529 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: for houses and we were gonna move into the suburbs 530 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: outside of Boston. Wow. Wow, this, I mean, this is 531 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: our Valentine's episode. And I always thought it was gonna 532 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: be me and you, but this is a story. I mean, 533 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: this is uh wow. And and you thought you would stay, yeah, 534 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: I mean that was the plan. We immediately got a dog. 535 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: So our dog, Bosco, is twelve years old because it 536 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: was like twelve years ago that we met. Like the 537 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: second we started dating, we just like we knew, this 538 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: is it, this is this is the future. Let's move 539 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: near your parents. We were looking at houses and then 540 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, my agents like, I just I 541 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: just want you to know there is not a job 542 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: open at the Today's Show right now. But I just 543 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: kind of mentioned to them that maybe you guys should 544 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: hire a weekend meteorologist because they were using local meteorologists 545 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: to kind of just handle Saturday and Sunday. So I 546 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: think I'm just gonna put out there that, you know, 547 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: maybe you should have coffee with them or just meet 548 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: with somebody at the Today Show. But don't get your 549 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: hopes up. There is no job. And I said, sure, 550 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: all I'll meet with whoever can't hurt, happy to do 551 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: it exciting and nerve racking. I mean, this is like, 552 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: this is the this is the Today's Show? Like that 553 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: was never on my radar. I mean, you've got Al Roker, 554 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: that's you know that there's no chance I'm going to 555 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: come anywhere close to this world of network news. You know, 556 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: it's just not going to happen, right, So I go down, 557 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: I meet some people all goes well, I kind of 558 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: like choked down my nerves, you know. I sometimes like 559 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I don't know. Do you 560 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: get nervous before you meet important people? I mean I 561 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: was super nervous this morning. I was petrified. I was nervous. Um, sure, 562 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: of course. I think it's more when I know I'm 563 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: going to be in front of a group of people 564 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: and I don't really know what's coming. Like someone says, hey, 565 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: by the way, we want you to say a few 566 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: words later on, and so immediately what I think is, oh, 567 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: they want they assume that I'm funny, which, by the way, 568 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: well I can be. But I also I actually don't 569 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: tell jokes. I don't know jokes. I don't like, that's 570 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: not what I do. It's like a mental thing. I 571 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: don't remember them. I'm like, oh, that's a good one. 572 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: I've got to remember that. I remember that I have 573 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: one joke. It's totally inappropriate. I tell that, and then 574 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: I usually am done and I think like are they 575 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: going to be disappointed? But anyway, yeah, in front of 576 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: a group of people, I do. And what you're talking about, 577 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: like meetings, that can be difficult again because of not 578 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: really knowing what the expectation is, what you know, how 579 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: how it's going to go in that way or what 580 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: they're sort of expecting from me. But before you go on, 581 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: I want to I want to say, like, so at 582 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: this moment, they're like, there's not really a job. How 583 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: long was Willard Scott on The Today Show? Like a 584 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: long time? A long time because Al looked up to him, um, 585 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: and Al was doing weekends and Willard was doing the 586 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: week days. And then when you know Willard was getting 587 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: ready to step back a little bit, I was able 588 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: to slide into that role. But I mean twenty years 589 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: and how on this alb in there alsband at NBC 590 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: for forty years. I think he's been with the Today's 591 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: Show maybe, but I grew up watching him. So yeah, 592 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: I mean I remember Willard Scott, but definitely remember Al 593 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: Roker taking over. So okay, so you meet, You're nervous, 594 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: but there's no job. So yeah, I'm just literally going 595 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: to meet people and small talk chat is not like 596 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: my strong suit. Like I hate going to Christmas parties. 597 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: I hate which is so interesting how you and I 598 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: became friends because it's like we I don't know, like 599 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: its just some people you can talk to and there's 600 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: like little jokes and there's little like and there's some 601 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: people like you have to put an effort to talk to, 602 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: you know, you have to continue to keep the small 603 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: talk going. And then it's there's awkward silence and I 604 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: feel like I need to fill the silence or I 605 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: don't know, like there's I I guess you're just meant 606 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: to click with some people and not with others. But 607 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: when it comes to people in in an authority position, 608 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: I just I don't thrive in that environment. So I 609 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: but I swallow all those nerves and I introduced myself 610 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: and I talked and I answer their questions and I 611 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: kind of try to sit in a comfortable, you know position, 612 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: so I look more confident and I'm just kind of 613 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: I get through the meetings and everything everything is fine. 614 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: You know, they like me enough that they say, why 615 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: don't you come back in a couple of weekends and 616 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: just fill in on the show, not the weekday show, 617 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: just the weekend show. So okay, yes, this is my 618 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: big opportunity. We talked about it on the show up 619 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: in Boston. This weekend. You have to watch Dylan's going 620 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: to be on the weekend Today's show. We're so excited 621 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: for her. YadA YadA, yadas. So you know, Boston knew 622 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: I was going to do this, and they kind of 623 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: knew where if it went well, where it could lead. 624 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: So like it was all kosher, everything was all good. 625 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: So I remember I get there and I pick out 626 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: like just like the prettiest dress I could find. And 627 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning and I wake up into 628 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: my mom's with me again, and we're in the hotel 629 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: room and I'm getting ready and she looks at me 630 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: and she's like, do you have any spanks? And I 631 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: was like, no, I don't, and it's four o'clock in 632 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: the morning, so I can't get any. So she's like, Okay, 633 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: I guess it'll be all right, going in with full 634 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: confidence here. So it's a very different environment. You know, 635 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: you need to show a lot of personality. It's not 636 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: just local news where they tossed to you. You give 637 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: a forecast, you make a little joke and you toss back, 638 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: you know. I mean that's this is like you have 639 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: to intro segments and you have to chit chat with 640 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: all your co anchors, and you have to go to 641 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: the plaza where there's a giant crowd of people and 642 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: you have to interact. So I'm again not my strong suit. 643 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 1: But I go out to the plaza and I see 644 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: this guy wearing a chicken hat on his head, and 645 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is gonna be so easy. He's going 646 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: to say something funny. I'm gonna look adorable, this is 647 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: gonna go so great. So I remember, it's my moment. 648 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,479 Speaker 1: I do the weather, and I go and I don't 649 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: even remember what the question was that I asked this guy, 650 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: but I asked him something and he goes mm hmm, 651 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: So okay, I get nothing. I asked another question, uh huh, 652 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, Like this guy in 653 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: a chicken had just ruined my chance at you know, 654 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: showing this big personality and I can play off of that, 655 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: and like he ruined my chance. And all any of 656 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: my friends were talking about was like, what was up 657 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: with that guy with the chicken hat? So all right, 658 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: whatever that that was. That that was my day. That 659 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: was my big trial. And I honestly was shocked when 660 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: they said that they were actually going to offer me 661 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: a position. It was a couple of months later it 662 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: wasn't like the next day, So of course I'm thinking 663 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 1: it's no chance that this is going to happen. But 664 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: and then we just pick up everything. Brian quits his 665 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: job and we've moved down to New York City. Wow, 666 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: now is this would you say? This is the dream? Like? 667 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,959 Speaker 1: This is this is the dream? This is the dream? 668 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: This is like And it's funny because now I don't 669 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: really do that much weather. I mean, if al Broker's off, 670 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: I I fill in for him. Um. But when I 671 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: when I first started, it was, I mean there was 672 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: it was a little shaky. I had to get over 673 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 1: the nerves at first. They sent me to a talent 674 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: coach and I can't to coach my talent and to 675 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: like make me more comfortable. It was almost like a 676 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: confidence coach kind of thing. Um, But like I I 677 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: will get comfortable eventually, but they wanted me comfortable like 678 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: right away, and I it took some time. So I 679 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,479 Speaker 1: remember the coach even said he's like, I don't really 680 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: know what to do here because you seem confident enough, 681 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: but I like, I don't know, I don't know how 682 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: to help you. Just keep doing what you're doing. I 683 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: guess you know, it was kind of that, and I'm like, 684 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: all right, And it took about a year before I 685 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: really felt like, Okay, you know, I can do this. 686 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: I can make jokes, I can chime in and I 687 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 1: can really be myself. But it it took some time. 688 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: And I remember when I started, they said, you're not 689 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: Al Roker, do not be Al Broker, and I'm like, okay, 690 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: I have to be me. I just have to be me. 691 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: I can't imitate how anybody else does this. I just 692 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: have to be me. And I eventually found myself and 693 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: that was ten years ago. That's really interesting that they 694 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: said that. I mean, i'll tell you what my first 695 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: impulse is. I don't know that they would like that 696 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: I said this. My memory of Al Roker was he 697 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: was trying to be Willard Scott. Like. I feel like 698 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: those two guys were very similar, at least early on. Yes, 699 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: I would say very similar. I think that just happens 700 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: to be those two people too. I think they're just 701 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: two people who are very similar. And it's funny because 702 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: now that I am so close with Al. Granted I'm 703 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: not Al's big personality, you know, but like he and 704 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: I get each other's jokes we can kind of finish 705 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: each other. We have a good banter um and he's 706 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: just like, it's such a pro it. He knows what 707 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: I want to say, so he'll team me up so 708 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: that I can say it, you know, like we just 709 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: have a good give and take. So I would say, 710 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if Al's like Willard. I'm similar to 711 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: Al in a way that isn't recognizable but interesting. So 712 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: what you just brought up is what I really wanted 713 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: to talk to you about. I mean, you, now, if 714 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: not an actor, certainly an entertainer. I mean the only 715 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: difference is we're playing characters and you are a version 716 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: of your of yourself, but a version of yourself. So 717 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: I mean, really, you start, as you know, I'm generalizing 718 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: for comedy. You start as a nerd interested in engineering 719 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: with four et cetera for calculus classes to learn meteorology, 720 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: which is a serious science of weather. Looking, I've started 721 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,760 Speaker 1: to fade and now no, now you're you know you're 722 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,919 Speaker 1: you're bantering on not just television, but live television, which 723 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: is something altogether different. Do you love it? Like? Do 724 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: you are you? Are you happy with where you have 725 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: have arrived? Oh? Yeah, I mean and I can easily 726 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: talk about whether they could send me out to a 727 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: hurricane right now, and I can, I can talk you 728 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: through the storm, Like that's that's easy for me. I 729 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. People trust me. There's that the 730 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: fact that I co host a show or I don't 731 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: do any weather is with people I genuinely enjoy being with. 732 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: It's just so much fun. I mean, every day we 733 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: leave the show and we're laughing and we're smiling, and 734 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: I never feel like bummed out when I come to work. 735 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: I mean it's the people I get to meet. I mean, 736 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: the people that we have on the show, like actors. 737 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: It's just it's so much fun um And even just 738 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: like the skill of interviewing I find is I don't know, 739 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: I just I just I love it. Just like I 740 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: like making a forecast that's accurate. I love interviewing someone 741 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 1: like I love having like a paper, you know, like 742 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: I love having my notes here and not having to 743 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: look at them. You know. I love knowing the interviewers 744 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: so much just from like the homework I've done and 745 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: the prep work I've done where I don't need to 746 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: like read my question off the paper, you know what 747 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I like being able to just 748 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: curiously ask them a question, and I like getting better 749 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,280 Speaker 1: as an interviewer in that way. Yes, that's me too. 750 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 1: I look, I've got multiple papers here, but it's way 751 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,959 Speaker 1: more fun too. I mean I learned a lot about 752 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 1: you obviously getting to know you house. By the way, 753 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: if you ever want to interview someone or time of 754 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: conversation with someone, if you know them in advance, it's 755 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:29,879 Speaker 1: way Oh my gosh, So you have brought up two 756 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: other things that I wanted to talk to you about. 757 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: You said, if a hurricane comes up and they want 758 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: you to go, you'll feel comfortable. What in the I'm sorry, 759 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: I usually don't say that. What the fuck is? What 760 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: is explained to me? The phenomenon, Oh news, go going lucky. 761 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: I read in you were on your way to a 762 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: blizzard and you shocker in a blizzard, you get in 763 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: a car accident and get a cushion. That was ridiculous. 764 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: That's when I first started and didn't say like no 765 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: to things. I'm like, sure, you want me to get 766 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: in the car now, Sure, I'll do whatever you want. 767 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: Now I will tell them I don't think we should 768 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: leave now, because we're going to get stuck in it. 769 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: We probably should have left a couple hours ago. So like, 770 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 1: I'll speak up for myself now that that was just 771 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: kind of But what but what what does this make 772 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: for better television? See? To me, it makes for jokes 773 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,720 Speaker 1: like if somebody is passing around a weather person video 774 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: on the coast of Florida and there's a hurricane coming, 775 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,280 Speaker 1: no one is sending now, this is a spoiler alert, 776 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: but no one is sending this like wow, look at 777 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: the courage of that meteorologious. No I thought that's what 778 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: they were doing. No, it's like, what is wrong with 779 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: this person? Why did they make him stand out there 780 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 1: when there's a hurricane coming in? Be real with me, 781 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: what is it? Is it rating? I mean, is there 782 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: as someone done the research to say this makes for 783 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 1: compelling television? To be honest, I mean I've stood out 784 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: in fifty below zero god in a T shirt with 785 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: vassoline on my arms because we were trying to recreate 786 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: the theory like how do football players play with short 787 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: sleeves when it's you know, like forty below zero outside 788 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: And somebody said they use vasoline, which is fine, I 789 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 1: could see it, but you can't put a jacket on 790 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: when your arms are covered in vassoline. So the repercussions 791 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: of doing this little ship for TV were I mean, 792 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: it was awful because I just could not get my 793 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: arm in a coat. That being said, Okay, wait, first 794 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: of all, that I get that is actually fairly funny. 795 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna find that footage. I want to see that footage. 796 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: But that's a fun I'm talking about. Yeah, but you're 797 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 1: talking about like standing out in the hurricanes, ver a 798 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: blizzard or like in a hurricane. Well, and it's funny 799 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: because like say we pick a location because that's where 800 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 1: it's going to be like the most active during our 801 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 1: live shot. If we pick a location and it's not 802 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: snowing or it's not sixty mile proper winds, I mean, 803 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: there's like a sigh of oh, you don't have a 804 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: good live shot. I mean, this is TV, it's morning TV. 805 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: It's sort of entertainment. You know, we definitely want a 806 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: good active live shot. It shows like how cool the 807 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: weather is. You know, it's like, don't go out in it. 808 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: We're going to do that for you. But if you 809 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: were to go out in it, this is how it 810 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: would be. Well, they're not gonna why you shouldn't go 811 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: out in it. This is yeah, but see here's the 812 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: thing I feel like, Well, I guess I'm only putting 813 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 1: camera people like your husband in Jeopardy, like I enjoy 814 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: seeing it, not enjoy I'm sorry, that's a horrible choice 815 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: of words. I don't mean enjoy it. I appreciate, you know, 816 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: a disastrous flood, like giving visual insight into what is happening. 817 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: That makes sense to me. But well, let's just say, Okay, 818 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: you know you're looking at pictures or video and we're 819 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: trying to explain how strong a storm is. You're gonna 820 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: let You're gonna think this is a ridiculous statement, but 821 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you wins right now are seventy miles per great, 822 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: that's a number. Sure looks like seventy mile power winds. 823 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 1: But if I stand out in it and you see me, 824 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: you know, like bracing myself against something so that I 825 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: don't blow over, now you really get what seventy mile 826 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: power winds look like. Right. It stops you in your tracks. 827 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: You're watching, you want to see what's going to happen. Remember, 828 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 1: there is some like we're telling you a news story, 829 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: but it is still a visual medium. So yes, well, 830 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,240 Speaker 1: I think partly what you're saying, which I buy about, 831 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: by the way, but I get the the actually the 832 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: public safety aspect of of a visual image because I 833 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: get what you're saying like seventy, Like what is seventy 834 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is if you if you show an 835 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,760 Speaker 1: image of like you know, saying in California with Santa 836 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 1: Anna wins and you show an image of like eighty 837 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 1: foot tall palm trees like sideways, that tells the story. 838 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: You don't have to show the person a light post 839 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: holding a light post, screaming into a microphone with the 840 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: wind whipping it, being like we're out here. But I 841 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: want to be your personal connection to the story. I'm 842 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 1: why you're going to stick around and watch just to 843 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: see Maybe it is just to see something happens, but 844 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,479 Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to be your personal connection because in 845 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: in in that theory, why do we stick so and 846 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: so outside of courthouse as we're you know, teeing up 847 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: the you know, the story about whatever you know? Why 848 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: why do we show any live reporters anywhere? Do we do? 849 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 1: We have to know where your connection to the story. Yes, 850 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 1: but I would make the argument. This is what I 851 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: was about to say before. I can't believe you're arguing 852 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: this point with me. I'm shocked that that we're on 853 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: different sides of this. If you send a reporter into 854 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: a war torn area, okay, and you have the reporter 855 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: on site on the plant, like I understand that, but 856 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: you don't really ever, unless it's a mistake, you don't 857 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: see a reporter with active ammunition and bombs happening immediately 858 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,800 Speaker 1: next to them at that at that moment, right, yeah, 859 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 1: you make a good kin to what we're discussing. It's like, 860 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, there's a hurricane happening. Let's everybody get 861 00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: to Florida and potentially be put in a disaster slee 862 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 1: dangerous situation. I will say the scaredest I've ever been 863 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: was that a hurricane in Bermuda, Category three hurricane hit 864 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, so everybody was in 865 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: their hotel rooms, Like the windows in my room were bowing. 866 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,799 Speaker 1: I was I was waiting for like the crash of 867 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,720 Speaker 1: the windows to just give way, to the point where 868 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:24,880 Speaker 1: I slept on the bathroom floor just to brace myself 869 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 1: in case that were to happen. I mean and then 870 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,359 Speaker 1: I woke up the next morning and it was like 871 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 1: that was really scary, Like I ended up staying the 872 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 1: night in the bathroom, and all the photographers they're all 873 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 1: like Miami Base, so they were like, oh, yeah, that's 874 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 1: what you do. You sleep in the bathtub and just 875 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: put a mattress over, you know, just put a mattress 876 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,360 Speaker 1: over the top of the tub. And I was like, 877 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 1: all right, cool, So I did this right. But you 878 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,760 Speaker 1: went there. You went there because the hurricane was coming. 879 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 1: I went there because the hurricane was coming. And I 880 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: will say, as from a meteorologist perspective, I got to 881 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: see the front side of the hurricane. I got to 882 00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: see the eye of the storm where I mean these ends, 883 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,879 Speaker 1: the front side of the hurricane. It was just it 884 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,760 Speaker 1: was so intense, like you thought every tree was gonna 885 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 1: just topple over you. It's just like something you've never 886 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 1: seen before. And then all of a sudden, the eye 887 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 1: of the storm comes through. You hear birds, you hear crickets, 888 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 1: you hear like not a single drop of wind. It 889 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 1: is the calmest, like the calmest thing you've ever experienced. 890 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, the backside of the 891 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 1: storm comes and that's when I slept on the bathroom floor. 892 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 1: So like from a meteorologist perspective, I can look at 893 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,240 Speaker 1: that stuff on the computer, I can look at visuals, 894 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,359 Speaker 1: but to experience it because I know what was happening, Yeah, 895 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: it was scary, but it was it's fascinating. I just 896 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: find the weather so fascinating. So I like, you know, 897 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 1: I like being outside when the snow is coming down 898 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,879 Speaker 1: so hard that you can't even see I just because 899 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 1: I I like it. It's I don't know, it's just 900 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: it's really fascinating. Yeah. I get what you're saying. I 901 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 1: get what you're saying. I just don't want anyone in danger, right. 902 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 1: We're usually pretty good at keeping ourselves safe, except when 903 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:04,840 Speaker 1: you're sleeping in a bathtub mashes safely though. Um, most 904 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 1: heart wrenching moment on live television for you was what 905 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: on the Today Show heart wrenching moment emotional Yeah, man, 906 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: that's um. It's tough, especially now that I do get 907 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: to talk to so many different people outside of you know, 908 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: just the weather. So obviously you talk to someone after 909 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 1: their home has been destroyed by a tornado, and it's 910 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:34,479 Speaker 1: it's heartbreaking, but I think, um, any any story that 911 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: involves children, especially like little kids overcoming cancer and they're 912 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 1: so positive and their outlook on life and they're making 913 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: bracelets for their friends because that's what they like to 914 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: do in their free time. I mean, I think any 915 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 1: story that involves children is just so maybe because I 916 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 1: have my own kids that you just you put yourself 917 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: in the parents shoes and you just you wonder how 918 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: some people can get through some of the things they 919 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: get through. Um, So I would say anything involving kids 920 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,439 Speaker 1: just breaks my heart. It's hard to keep it together. Yeah, 921 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 1: that's that's got to be an incredibly difficult thing to 922 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 1: to go through on live television. I you know, I 923 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 1: have told this story a couple of times, but you know, 924 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,280 Speaker 1: we used to have make a wish kids come and 925 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 1: I remember this one day as a kid came and 926 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 1: Kevin was his favorite character, and me going to the 927 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: prop room like give him whatever he wants, Like whatever 928 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: he wants, we don't need fourteen spare eminem jars, like 929 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: just give him, like, just give him one, and going 930 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,799 Speaker 1: into the back and just crying, just being like this 931 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 1: is like a very just an emotional moment. I can't 932 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: imagine going through that on live, live television. Do you 933 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 1: have do you have a favorite moment? Um a favorite moment? 934 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: So before COVID, but we when we traveled a lot, 935 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,280 Speaker 1: like all the stories we would we would just travel 936 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: and that it's just fun. And we were doing a 937 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 1: series for Mother's Day and it was like, let's give 938 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,880 Speaker 1: your mom something on her bucket list. And I'm like, 939 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 1: all right, this is awesome. It's like peek Today's show. 940 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 1: And I got to take my mom to Costa Rica 941 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,320 Speaker 1: to go whitewater rafting, like for a Today's Show story. 942 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 1: It was such a such a boondoggle. And to bring 943 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,240 Speaker 1: my mom along, you know, it's just like what is happening? 944 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 1: You know, we're flying out to Costa Rica. It's like 945 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 1: all expenses paid. You know, it's just like we're doing 946 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 1: it for a story. Um. And that was just really 947 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: special because just because it was so wild. I mean, 948 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: hosting live television day after day, do you ever get 949 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:51,240 Speaker 1: nervous or are you ever not sure what's coming next? 950 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 1: I know you have people in your ears. There are 951 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,480 Speaker 1: times where it's like we don't have the video yet, 952 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 1: We'll let you know when we got it, you know, 953 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 1: and we're just about to toss to the video and 954 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: it's but I don't know, after doing this for so long, 955 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 1: and when you're in a comfortable situation, you could just 956 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 1: b as your weight through anything, Like you could just 957 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: keep saying more and more words, and when you run 958 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 1: out of words, you're co hosting with someone who can 959 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 1: fill it in with more words, you know. I mean, 960 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,800 Speaker 1: like we're very good at vamping, and just like filling 961 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 1: the gaps, there are sometimes where you won't realize that 962 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 1: you were going to be star struck. I mean, I 963 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 1: would say my most embarrassing moment and it was such 964 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,399 Speaker 1: a stupid thing. We were on a set visit for 965 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,240 Speaker 1: like um Neighbors Neighbors Too. Do you remember that movie? 966 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: It's like Seth Rogan and zac Efron. So you go 967 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,879 Speaker 1: and you interview the characters and it's like all right, 968 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 1: like I know my questions, Like I again, I like 969 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 1: to prepare, and for some reason, interviewing zac Effron just 970 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,959 Speaker 1: threw me off. And I'm not even like a zac 971 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 1: Efron fan, but he's like standing there and he's got 972 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 1: like a tight T shirt on, and I remember just 973 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,320 Speaker 1: like my mouth went to open to ask a question 974 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, um, and you know, I'm like tucking 975 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: my hair behind my ears and like I could not speak. 976 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:14,479 Speaker 1: And then it was not live, but my producers standing 977 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 1: right there and like they're recording, like we're recording this 978 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: to tape because like we're doing an interview, and Seth 979 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 1: Rogan standing right there like what the hell is going 980 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: on right now? And it was just the most like 981 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 1: disgustingly awful, like embarrassing feeling. It took me for a 982 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 1: long time to shake it because it was just like, wow, 983 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,240 Speaker 1: I just really botched that whole thing. It was so 984 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: awkward because you love zac Efron, by the way, when 985 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 1: you told me the two people this was, it was 986 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: not the person that I had guessed for you. I know, 987 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,839 Speaker 1: and kind of like random times where I don't know 988 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: what happens. There are certain celebrities who will come on 989 00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,399 Speaker 1: that just like your brains sort of show it's down 990 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,279 Speaker 1: and you just get a little nervous. I don't know, 991 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 1: why are you going to get nervous with me? I think, 992 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 1: so are you in an excited way because it's like 993 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. Now, it's like you're my friend and 994 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 1: I'm going to bring you on the show, and I 995 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 1: want I want to protect you, you know, and it's 996 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 1: like I want Craig and Alan Shanelle to love you 997 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:18,719 Speaker 1: as much as I do, and you know, I just 998 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 1: I want everything to just go really well. Oh it will, 999 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: I think, which is funny because like this just showed 1000 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 1: up on my desk today. See I'm like ready for 1001 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 1: your segment. There is that's my face. Oh that's well, 1002 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 1: that's very fun. That's very fun. So I'll start preparing 1003 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:43,719 Speaker 1: for you better. It's gonna be. Brian did tell me. 1004 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 1: He's like when when Brian comes on the show, you know, like, 1005 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 1: don't be too inside baseball, you know, like, remember it's 1006 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 1: still just an interview. Don't be like like, oh, we're 1007 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:55,759 Speaker 1: such good friends and your husband's giving you advice like 1008 00:56:55,840 --> 00:57:00,919 Speaker 1: a month in advance for all right, he does. He's 1009 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 1: a good I have to talk to you about, well, 1010 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 1: now that you're a big actor, star fate of a sport, 1011 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: you're hosting Earth Odyssey with Dylan Dryer. The fact that 1012 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,959 Speaker 1: you get your title on the show as well, that's 1013 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 1: very not just dir thoughtsy, it's their thoughtasy with Dylan Dryer. 1014 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: Are you passionate about Earth Odyssey? Oh? I love it. 1015 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 1: It's I mean, I think we're we think we just 1016 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 1: finished up five seasons. So it's it's just like the 1017 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 1: perfect little nature show that you watch on Saturday morning 1018 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 1: TV with your kids, and it's just I just love it. 1019 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 1: I'll fly out to l A. I'll shoot all the 1020 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 1: on camera stuff um out at the arboretum outside l A, 1021 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 1: and then I do all the voice over work in 1022 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 1: my closet, you know, and it's like, I just it's awesome. 1023 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 1: Do you have a peacock in your closet as well 1024 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 1: when you're doing your voice over work? That's that's what 1025 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 1: the important. But my head is now covering it. So 1026 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 1: I thought you forgot about it. And I have to 1027 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,080 Speaker 1: talk to you about Misty the Cloud, your best selling 1028 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: children's book series. You were so kind and sent the 1029 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 1: books to my girls. They are are loving it. I 1030 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 1: don't know if you ever put this together, but you're 1031 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 1: a weather person, and it's about a cloud on purpose 1032 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 1: the whole thing, you know. It was. It was actually 1033 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: something we we came up with like ten years ago, 1034 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 1: and it was really really hard to get a children's 1035 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 1: book published. I had to, you know, I had to 1036 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 1: pitch the idea and and I'm like, I'm passionate about 1037 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 1: this idea. I think there is no world where there 1038 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 1: are clouds zipping around the sky and they're having fun 1039 00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,919 Speaker 1: and they're teaching you little lessons and it's just fun. 1040 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,960 Speaker 1: Why doesn't this exist? It's it's just really visual and 1041 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 1: really cool. And think of all the cool characters you 1042 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 1: can have between like all the different types of weather. 1043 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I want this to exist. So I 1044 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 1: pitch it and it's like, um, that's great, But you 1045 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 1: know what would be really cool and what's really selling 1046 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 1: right now, like biography use about like little known people, 1047 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 1: So like what if you write a biography about a 1048 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 1: female meteorologist who who won't take no for an answer? 1049 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 1: And I was like, do you want me to take 1050 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 1: no for an answer? To write a book about someone 1051 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 1: who won't take no for an answer? So it's like 1052 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm good. Um, And it's so like we kind of 1053 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 1: pushed aside and then we brought it back and then 1054 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,960 Speaker 1: I just like I just I really was so passionate 1055 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 1: about it and just tried and tried and tried. I 1056 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 1: teamed up with a co author, Alan Alan Katz, who 1057 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 1: kind of saw my vision, and yeah, we we put 1058 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 1: it out. The first one came out last year, and 1059 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: then the second one came out this year, So yeah, 1060 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 1: that's awesome and so cute and so beautiful. How many 1061 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,240 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Are you gonna do? Twelve? So 1062 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 1: then the next two books are actually step into reading books, 1063 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,920 Speaker 1: which has been really cool because the first two books 1064 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: came out which were perfect for Calvin, and now the 1065 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 1: next to come out, which Calvin is starting to read 1066 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 1: now my oldest son, so I can give them to him. 1067 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 1: And then after that we have two board books coming out. 1068 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, so just like it's a fun little series, um, 1069 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,520 Speaker 1: but are are big thing we'd love to Our goal 1070 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 1: is to turn this into an animated cartoon, like an 1071 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 1: animated series at some point, because again, I think it's 1072 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,440 Speaker 1: great for the books, and I love it in the books, 1073 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 1: and I love talking about science in the back of 1074 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 1: the books. You know, I've had to create a rainbow, 1075 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,440 Speaker 1: had to create a thunderstorm, but I still just imagine 1076 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 1: it is so vibrant and alive and just the things 1077 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 1: you can do with clouds and colors, and we just 1078 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 1: kind of see it going even further. That's awesome. If 1079 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 1: you need a voice for Misty. I pictured you was 1080 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 1: more of like a hurricane. Yes, I am Dylan. Uh. 1081 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,439 Speaker 1: By the way, Dylan and I got to know each 1082 01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 1: other a few weeks ago here at the LPGA Tournament 1083 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 1: of Champions in Orlando, Florida, Hilton Grand Vacations. Had a 1084 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 1: great time. I look forward to playing How is the golf? 1085 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 1: Have you played any golf since we've been been back? 1086 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 1: You do know I live in New York City, right, Yeah, 1087 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 1: I know, so I guess I'm so bad at golf. 1088 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: That's I guess that's a no. Um. I look forward 1089 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:28,280 Speaker 1: to many more adventures with you on the golf course 1090 01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 1: and etcetera. Start getting nervous about the Today Show. I'm 1091 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,960 Speaker 1: so excited. I can't wait to have you on the show. 1092 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,120 Speaker 1: Like it's just it's just gonna be fun. You just 1093 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,919 Speaker 1: I don't make new friends at this point in my life, 1094 01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, I just I don't know. There's just a 1095 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 1: lot going on. And it was just really such a 1096 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: special weekend down in Orlando, and it clicked and it 1097 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 1: was just easy and fun and I'm just so grateful 1098 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 1: for our friendship. Now. Well, Happy Valentine's Day, Happy Valentine's 1099 01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:00,080 Speaker 1: Happy Valentine's Day to my new friend and uh and 1100 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 1: more to come. Congratulations on everything. I look forward to 1101 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 1: seeing you in New York and this summer at at 1102 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 1: Lake Tahoe American Central Championships. Get your golf game ready. 1103 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 1: I know I need to step it up a little bit, 1104 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 1: so this way we could be paired up again. We'll 1105 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 1: be paired up again, and then I'll take some more 1106 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 1: of your husband's money. Well said, we're saving now. Thank you, 1107 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, Brian Dylan, thank you so much for coming on. 1108 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you very shortly on the 1109 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 1: Today Show. I promise I will. I will try not 1110 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 1: to make you nervous. This was a treat. It is 1111 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 1: conversations like these that remind me why I started Off 1112 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 1: the Beat. Listeners, as always, you're the best. Thank you 1113 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 1: so much for joining me. Make sure to tune in 1114 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 1: next week for another episode of the podcast. I'll see 1115 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:10,200 Speaker 1: you soon, and whether you're listening today, really any day, 1116 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 1: you are my Valentine. Off the Beat is hosted an 1117 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 1: executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer Langley. 1118 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 1: Our senior producer is Diego Tapia. Our producers are Liz Hayes, 1119 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 1: Hannah Harris, and Emily Carr. Our talent producer is Ryan 1120 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 1: Papa Zachary and our intern is Sammy Cats. Our theme 1121 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 1: song Bubble and Squeak, performed by the one and only 1122 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:45,720 Speaker 1: Creed Bratton,