WEBVTT - Aging with Pride: “Our house is clothing optional.”

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<v Speaker 1>Ruby.

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<v Speaker 2>I just love this dirty men talk.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we keep that in?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm supposed to be the massacrest because you could

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<v Speaker 1>lose your day.

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<v Speaker 2>From just beyond the lights of Los Angeles and steamy

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<v Speaker 2>Palm Springs, California. It's Mick Robert Bill just say and this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is silver lighting with the old days.

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<v Speaker 3>Skeletons, muscles, ligaments, a arctic valve.

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<v Speaker 4>What is this?

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about the body, aren't we?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? But it's not an anatomy lesson.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's keep it above the skin, please.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't promise.

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<v Speaker 4>That that's right. Today, we're talking about our bodies.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing we spend our whole lives adapting.

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<v Speaker 1>To and in relationship with.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're young, you feel like your body's going to

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<v Speaker 2>stay the same forever.

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<v Speaker 4>But as the years go by, you learn there's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot to maintain and a whole lot of change.

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<v Speaker 3>So come get naked with us emotionally, of course, as

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<v Speaker 3>we talk about self confidence, aging.

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<v Speaker 2>Nudity, and how we live and learn in these beautiful bodies.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been given.

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<v Speaker 4>Silver lining starts.

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<v Speaker 1>Now to kick things off, If you could pick only one,

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<v Speaker 1>what body part on other people do you love the most?

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<v Speaker 4>The butt?

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<v Speaker 3>I love lips being polically challenged. I'm always a reach

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<v Speaker 3>a tive of somebody who has a good head of hair,

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<v Speaker 3>and especially nowadays with a new fashioned tread where guys

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<v Speaker 3>have curly hair kind of tangled and piled on top

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<v Speaker 3>of their head, I find myself being very drawn to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, if the person is facing me and I look

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<v Speaker 4>at their front side first, it would be the eyes.

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<v Speaker 4>But if they're walking away from me, it would be

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<v Speaker 4>the butt. I agree with Bill on the butt. That's

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<v Speaker 4>my second choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Forget the eyes. You don't mind if they don't have them.

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<v Speaker 1>As an anecdote, a very good friend of mine told

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<v Speaker 1>me that he didn't care if I was a paraplegic

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<v Speaker 1>as long as I had very big pecks. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a peck fetish.

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<v Speaker 3>I can see that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, for me, I'm more interested in the abs,

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<v Speaker 1>but also as they're connected to the serratus and then

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<v Speaker 1>the obliques, because he creates a really tight, tight, tight,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of V shaped at the end, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>can have as big a butt as you want.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh. I think the external oblique is one of the

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<v Speaker 3>sexiest muscles in the body.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's also one of the most ticklish double trouble.

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<v Speaker 4>And also if they were facing me, the bulge would

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<v Speaker 4>be one.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the things I like too. You mean the cock,

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<v Speaker 5>the junk, Yeah, yeah, the cock or the balls. It's

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<v Speaker 5>called a penis, but there's more than just a penis

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<v Speaker 5>in ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are nuts. Yeah, yeah, your testicles. Well we

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<v Speaker 1>are talking anatomy, aren't we, and let's let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's a rather important.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people find it sexy.

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<v Speaker 3>Tess say, you're unusually silent over there.

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<v Speaker 2>I just love listening to y'all dirty men talk. This

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<v Speaker 2>isn't dirty men talk. This is just anatomy. The dirty

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<v Speaker 2>stuff comes later. Oh you're getting warmed up now, huh

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<v Speaker 2>anatomy one oh one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I could also say that, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite parts of a human body is their fists.

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<v Speaker 2>You stop that, young lady.

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<v Speaker 1>But before it gets up there, you got to have

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<v Speaker 1>a good look at it. You know. You don't want

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<v Speaker 1>some gnarly thing up your butt.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yes, they're shrimmed nails moving right and old.

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<v Speaker 2>What part of your own body do you love the most?

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<v Speaker 2>And why?

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<v Speaker 4>I would have to say for me and my eyes,

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<v Speaker 4>I agree too. My grandmother at a very early age,

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<v Speaker 4>when I was sort of in my silent period, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when you did, you're six or seven years old. She

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<v Speaker 4>looked at me and she said, Bill, when you talk

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<v Speaker 4>to someone, talk to them with your eyes. And it

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<v Speaker 4>made me believe, Yeah, it is important.

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<v Speaker 3>I've always felt that my eyes were one of my

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<v Speaker 3>best parts, even when I was young, and really didn't

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I was a very attractive person when I

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<v Speaker 3>was young, But I did like my eyes even then,

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<v Speaker 3>and they just that's the one part of me that

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't changed much over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll pick something. My smile. I look for that

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<v Speaker 2>in me and I look for that in others also.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree. I think a great smile is very important

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<v Speaker 3>to me. Next question, are you comfortable with your naked body?

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<v Speaker 3>And do you feel more comfortable in your body now

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<v Speaker 3>than when you were younger? For me an emphatic no.

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<v Speaker 3>I was much more involved with trying to exercise and

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<v Speaker 3>maintain my body when I was younger, particularly the years

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<v Speaker 3>living in San Francisco when that was a very body

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<v Speaker 3>conscious culture during the nineteen eighties, and I was going

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<v Speaker 3>to the gym three or four days a week and

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<v Speaker 3>doing aerobics two to three days of the week, and

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<v Speaker 3>at that time I had a pretty decent body, but

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<v Speaker 3>I tend to let it go, and that is now

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<v Speaker 3>nagging at me because I realized how important maintaining the

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<v Speaker 3>body is to the health of the body and to

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<v Speaker 3>living longer.

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<v Speaker 1>A momb Yes, do you think at the time in

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco there was a lot of peer pressure to

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<v Speaker 1>have a fantastic body that you noticed that the guys

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<v Speaker 1>who were always having the most fun together were the

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<v Speaker 1>guys with the best bodies.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, it was peer pressure, but I didn't mind it

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<v Speaker 3>at all. You know, it's so easy to step into

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<v Speaker 3>that when you're in that culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a time, though, that when you were up

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<v Speaker 1>there that you discovered that there was no point in

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<v Speaker 1>doing that. If you were going to work out and train,

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to do it for yourself and not

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<v Speaker 1>for others.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say back then it was about pleasing

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<v Speaker 3>others and being attractive to others, because you know, there

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<v Speaker 3>was so many people that you were trying to be attractive.

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<v Speaker 1>Too long ago I stopped working out for other people.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I don't think I ever did. I am

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<v Speaker 1>body conscious, and what I mean by that is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of bodybuilders go through this. They're so critical about

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<v Speaker 1>the way they look. Now, I was checking themselves in

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<v Speaker 1>the mirror and looking for every flaw that's available, and

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<v Speaker 1>that can get to you. The thing is is you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to understand. You know, you're training, and you're buffed,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're doing juice and stuff like that. You're part

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<v Speaker 1>of the one percenters and you know you're there for

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<v Speaker 1>a period of time and then you move on just

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<v Speaker 1>simply because our bodies do age, and that is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you get self conscious or insecure about parts of

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<v Speaker 3>your body?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, No, I'm not self conscious. All I do is

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<v Speaker 1>I look from an esthetic point of view, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do enjoy working out, so as long as I can

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<v Speaker 1>physically do it, I will, and I'm always looking to

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<v Speaker 1>improve my technique and all of that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And also the fact that you know, as your body

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<v Speaker 1>age is your body just simply can't lift as much.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I've always I felt pretty comfortable with my

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<v Speaker 1>body when I'm not being critical of it.

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<v Speaker 3>How about too, Bill, Do you get self conscious about

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<v Speaker 3>parts of your body?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I do, just my body as a whole. I

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<v Speaker 4>know I'm skinny and I should weigh a lot more

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<v Speaker 4>than I do, so I am self conscious about being

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<v Speaker 4>so slim, and I don't have a huge appetite, so

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<v Speaker 4>it's not like just chowing down on food and that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of stuff. I have a good diet, but it

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<v Speaker 4>just seems like I can't gain any weight.

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<v Speaker 3>To say, how about too.

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<v Speaker 2>My body's moved. I appreciate the movement of it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't look in the mirror and say you a fine thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but I keep moving. I keep moving. It's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>The other day when we were together and Mick brought

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<v Speaker 2>up this one little simple move and I've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>it ever since, just standing up without using your hands.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd never thought of it, and it makes a difference

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<v Speaker 2>because now I feel my thigh muscles and my butt

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<v Speaker 2>muscles when I stand up. So just keep moving and

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<v Speaker 2>don't be hard on yourself, because if it's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to change, it's just not going to change. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to love yourself where you are, and I need to

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<v Speaker 2>learn to do that too, love myself where I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm following up on that. I'll start with just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>are you comfortable being naked with others? No other I can,

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<v Speaker 1>but more than one other person. No, I'm not. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't under say you so you're you're comfortable if

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<v Speaker 2>one on one what I wouldn't go to a naked party.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not comfortable in those. But in my home and

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<v Speaker 2>in my backyard I am new. If somebody looks over

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<v Speaker 2>a wall.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't mind.

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<v Speaker 2>This is your thing, yes, but I am. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not comfortable in my skin, but I deal with

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<v Speaker 2>it and it's okay. I'm happy with just being me.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody doesn't have to be comfortable. I've done things with

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<v Speaker 2>the Oldkays that I've never done that I wasn't comfortable with.

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<v Speaker 2>But it stretches you. What doesn't kill you makes you

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<v Speaker 2>stronger and you move on. Yeah, Bob, Yeah you have

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<v Speaker 2>to look to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. Yeah, I am comfortable being naked and being naked

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<v Speaker 3>with others.

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<v Speaker 1>I should say so.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>Our house is cling optional?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's always been. And sometimes I do work

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<v Speaker 3>naked and I feel closer to my work when I

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<v Speaker 3>do for some odd reason. And I back in the nineties,

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<v Speaker 3>I went through a period where I did some posing

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<v Speaker 3>naked for photo shoots for various websites that catered to

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<v Speaker 3>the older and younger generation getting together.

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<v Speaker 1>Well for my two cents, Yes, I'm comfortable being naked

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<v Speaker 1>with others. I started posing naked probably about nineteen ninety one,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety one. Prior to that, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>an actor, so yes, it was offered, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do it because I was an actor and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be considered legit. Now, if I had

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<v Speaker 1>to do it over again, yes, I would pose for

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<v Speaker 1>Roy Dean. I don't think that would have been a

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<v Speaker 1>problem in my life would have been different, and I'm pleased.

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<v Speaker 1>I look at the pictures and I think, geek. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I looked like that once, but you know, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>at my age now, it was done and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I'll be doing it again, and that's fine with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope people enjoy it. Just don't stain the photo.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, we've all posed naked for a photo shoot. We

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<v Speaker 4>were doing a scene from Little nas X and it

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<v Speaker 4>was a prison scene in a shower and they gave

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<v Speaker 4>us these skimpy, little beige colored cloths to wear over it.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was it was great if you shaved down there,

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<v Speaker 4>but if you didn't, they kept falling off, and finally

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<v Speaker 4>we just all threw ours away and we did the

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<v Speaker 4>scene and then they did the little blotchy thing for

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<v Speaker 4>our genitals in it, but we were all the fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>people were watching us totally nude.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a little circle around our genitals.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that it was a cold day, cold day.

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<v Speaker 4>If I could tell my younger self one thing about

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<v Speaker 4>my body that I wish I knew sooner, it would

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<v Speaker 4>be there's nothing more underrated than a good night's sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>If I could tell my younger self one thing about

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<v Speaker 2>my body that I wish I knew sooner, it would

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<v Speaker 2>be love you love yourself. It's okay to put yourself first.

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<v Speaker 3>If I could tell my young your self one thing

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<v Speaker 3>about my body that I wish I knew sooner, it

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<v Speaker 3>would be bloss daily. Why because you could lose your.

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<v Speaker 2>Teeth, all of them with the dead.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was because I didn't lost daily. How have

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<v Speaker 3>you cared for your body and health over the years,

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<v Speaker 3>Bill Well, When I lived in southern California, I went

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<v Speaker 3>to quite a few different gyms, victannies and this kind

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff, and I just found that gyms were really

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<v Speaker 3>not for me.

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<v Speaker 4>But when I moved to Palm Springs. I met a

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<v Speaker 4>yoga instructor and I started doing yoga and it was

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<v Speaker 4>the greatest exercise that I've ever done. Was sort of

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<v Speaker 4>like dancing and working out at the same time, and

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<v Speaker 4>I really really enjoyed it. And I've studied with him

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<v Speaker 4>for eight years, which also led he had a meditation

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<v Speaker 4>group too. And when I got through with my yoga

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<v Speaker 4>and I went back to my apartment, people said, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you look so happy, And I really was, because yoga

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<v Speaker 4>not only gave me a sense of exercise, but mentally,

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<v Speaker 4>that's all I was thinking about, was doing yoga, and

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<v Speaker 4>everything else wasn't even there. It was just yoga that

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<v Speaker 4>I concentrated on and I absolutely loved it. And I

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<v Speaker 4>still do yoga once a week.

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<v Speaker 3>Me. I know, you don't exercise at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've cared for my body over the years. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been very much aware of my health and tried to

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<v Speaker 1>take good care of it. One thing I will say

0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:06.199
<v Speaker 1>is that you know, usually when a new problem comes up,

0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the old problem goes away. So the things that I

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<v Speaker 1>had dealt with when I was younger in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>my health, like my lower back, which I think had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to do with lifting. You know, now just

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<v Speaker 1>something else went wrong and so you know that problem

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<v Speaker 1>goes away. So I think caring for your body changes

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, and the deficiencies that you found previously

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<v Speaker 1>no longer really apply. You have new deficiencies to deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>How about brain exercises.

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<v Speaker 4>I do crossword puzzles for my brain, and I also

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<v Speaker 4>enjoy doing Solitaire on the computer because it really keeps me,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, moving and thinking about this and that. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I do brain exercises also.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, say why do you say it like that? What's

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<v Speaker 3>your physical exercise?

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<v Speaker 2>I walk twice daily. Now that I'm starting to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to walk, I still walk slowly, but I'm moving.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the main thing with anything is you need

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<v Speaker 2>to keep your body moving. As for memorizing the dances,

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<v Speaker 2>they're great. As for memorizing the lines, my brain sucks

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<v Speaker 2>at it. It shuts it off. And that's what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And because I'm constantly singing, because I'm having to memorize

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<v Speaker 2>six million songs.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to say, I bet singing is a

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<v Speaker 3>good brain exercise.

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<v Speaker 2>What's something you tried once for your health that absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>didn't work?

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<v Speaker 3>I recall years ago I saw so many people jogging

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<v Speaker 3>for exercise, and I thought, well, I'll try that night

0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:16.080
<v Speaker 3>jog for a couple of days, and I said, this

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<v Speaker 3>is not for me. So that's something I tried and rejected.

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<v Speaker 3>But what happened I just didn't like it. That was

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<v Speaker 3>hard work.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't develop like shin splints or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, physically, it was just I did not I did

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy it, So I I know something. Some people really

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<v Speaker 3>get into it. They do, and particularly with headphones and

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<v Speaker 3>listening to music as they're jogging. I tell you, at

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<v Speaker 3>this point in my life, there's one kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>mantra that I'm developing to try to urge me into exercise.

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<v Speaker 3>But I know without a doubt that if I exercise more,

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<v Speaker 3>it would probably add a few years to my life,

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<v Speaker 3>and when you're my age, adding a few years to

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<v Speaker 3>your life is a big thing. So I'm struggling with

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<v Speaker 3>this right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. You know, I've been working out since I was fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to say, the best workouts that I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever had is when I've been absolutely completely covered in sweat.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels so good because your body purges and afterwards

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<v Speaker 1>you've had a good meal, and sit back and relax

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<v Speaker 1>and you feel real good. What I miss about that

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<v Speaker 1>those days in which I didn't have any health problems

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<v Speaker 1>is working out really strong during the day and then

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<v Speaker 1>having a good eight hours of sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>And now a word for mick.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing to understand about exercise training, and it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>even more important as one ages is get plenty of sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm talking about rim sleep. For me right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I put on these recordings different frequencies and things like

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<v Speaker 1>that to help you fall asleep, and they do really work.

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<v Speaker 1>They help control the mind because it has a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the tones and the notes and the

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<v Speaker 1>vibrations that are being caused, and as a result, you

0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:45.080
<v Speaker 1>just fall into a really good deep sleep. So there

0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:49.560
<v Speaker 1>are aids out there if you are having trouble falling asleep,

0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you can use them as a crutch. The other thing

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<v Speaker 1>I would say is also make sure that you take

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<v Speaker 1>magnesium at night, because that'll help you in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>keep you from cramp, but it'll also help soothe the

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<v Speaker 1>stomach and also again it flows through the body. And

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing I discovered now is ashwaganda, which is

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<v Speaker 1>from South Asian medicine, and this if taken properly, will

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<v Speaker 1>reduce the level of cortisol in your system.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that is probably one of the most important

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<v Speaker 3>things for human beings to do, is get a good

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<v Speaker 3>night's rest. And fortunately I've found my ways, and I

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<v Speaker 3>usually go to bed between eight and nine in the

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<v Speaker 3>evening almost every evening, and I do get a really

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<v Speaker 3>good seven to eight hours of sleep a day, and

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<v Speaker 3>I usually wake naturally when the sun roses, and I

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<v Speaker 3>feel great the next day. But if that doesn't happen,

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:12.520
<v Speaker 3>forget the next day. It's a ride off. And now

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<v Speaker 3>it's time for my current addiction. Today, my current addiction

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:21.920
<v Speaker 3>is ensured.

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<v Speaker 4>It absolutely helps me make it through the day. I

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<v Speaker 4>know I'm getting at least thirty grams of protein and

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<v Speaker 4>all the other trace minerals and everything, and it just

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.720
<v Speaker 4>makes me feel good that I'm putting all of this

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<v Speaker 4>good stuff in my body.

0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:49.960
<v Speaker 3>And Bill's trying to add pounds onto that skinny frame.

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<v Speaker 1>Of his and it's never gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think that this.

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<v Speaker 2>People will just live. You're cute, your bounty, enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 3>My current edition is Aliens. I'm fascinated by the idea

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:15.439
<v Speaker 3>that we not only have made contact with aliens, but

0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 3>they're living among us. And lately there's this mystery going

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<v Speaker 3>on about high ranking people who are involved in scientific

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 3>studies are disappearing. I know, I saw that are being murdered,

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:46.160
<v Speaker 3>are killed in different ways, and there's something going on.

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>All involved with like plasma physics.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, confusion, yes, both private sector and government.

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<v Speaker 1>So you cank it's something out of the X files.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know. I think that something something's going on.

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<v Speaker 4>When it comes to aging, what changes have surprised you

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<v Speaker 4>the most?

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<v Speaker 2>You go first, Bill, Okay, I will.

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<v Speaker 4>Be happy to I mean, twenty years ago, I was

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<v Speaker 4>five ten and a half, and twenty years later, i'm

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<v Speaker 4>eight and a half inches.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good, Bill, Thank you, Thank you. Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>How's that for topic?

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<v Speaker 1>Folks want to move on? He went from ten and

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<v Speaker 1>a half down to eight. Congratulations. I'll keep that.

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<v Speaker 4>Can we keep that in?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll try it again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I've always heard as a kid that as

0:25:56.040 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 4>you grow older, you grow shorter. But I've owned from

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<v Speaker 4>five feet ten inches to eight feet five inches.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Bill, three feet.

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<v Speaker 2>You said you you said you went from five ten

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<v Speaker 2>to eight five ten to eight feet. That's not going

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<v Speaker 2>God and you kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of love someone else?

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<v Speaker 3>Do it? No?

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<v Speaker 4>No, okay, okay, listen, it's fine. I heard when I

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 4>was young that as you grow older you get shorter.

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 4>But I went from five feet ten inches to five

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<v Speaker 4>foot eight inches and I was amazed that I dropped

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<v Speaker 4>two inches. Well, I've gone from six to to five

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<v Speaker 4>eleven and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>What changes have surprised you the most? Yeah, I'm going

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 1>to have to think about that.

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:04.439
<v Speaker 2>I have something. The one thing my hair. I was

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:08.639
<v Speaker 2>not ready to lose my hair, and it was totally traumatic,

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 2>and people who'd never had a hair problem kept saying

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 2>the wrong things to me, and I would get so

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 2>upset because you can't talk about sucking that you've never

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 2>experienced if you don't know what it's like to go

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 2>through it.

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:23.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm with you on that.

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.880
<v Speaker 2>It was a humbling experience. But now I wouldn't have

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 2>hair if you have paid me except when doing drag though,

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 2>But that's it, lovesh. I get up and shake my

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 2>head and name nothing else to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I would say, what has surprised me the most

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:43.880
<v Speaker 1>are the new medications and supplements it that there are

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>are there, It's a whole industry, and I will have

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 1>to say it helps, It really does, you know, God

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>bless the world for copper peptide shampoo because that not

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<v Speaker 1>only removes the DHDT that is preventing your hair from growing,

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 1>but it also nourishes it so the fall exiles return.

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:10.879
<v Speaker 1>When I left the hospital, I didn't have much hair

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>on my head, and now I have too much. So

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 1>you just have to find out what's going to work

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.679
<v Speaker 1>for you and what doesn't. And it's a trial and

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 1>error kind of thing. But look, I wouldn't be here

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>without the medications that I'm taking. I mean, I'm going

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:33.639
<v Speaker 1>to be taking really three different kinds of experimental drugs,

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 1>including the one to treat CIDP, and so I'm just

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>amazed at the processes that are being used for like vaccinations,

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 1>even controlling your heartburn.

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 3>And ED meds. There's a wonderful rain of medications to

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 3>assist with ED nowadays. And that's important to me because

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 3>I think, and argasm a day is important for your health.

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<v Speaker 3>Just one good for you, Bob.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I got that first white hair in my pubic area

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<v Speaker 2>and it freaked me out. I was not ready for

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 2>that at all. But now you just come them or

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 2>pluck them or.

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Shoved them on.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, see three different things, folks. You learned here

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<v Speaker 2>with that plucking note. White hairs are thick?

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 3>Are they get me?

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Pluck one of yours.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd never measured one.

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 1>And I'm supposed to be the massochist and you are.

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<v Speaker 2>So to conclude, what would you say is the silver

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<v Speaker 2>lining about living in your body as you age?

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<v Speaker 4>I would have to say the advances in medication have

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<v Speaker 4>been able to make us all live longer.

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, I would say you the silver lining about dealing

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:13.719
<v Speaker 3>with what we're all dealing with is your alive and

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 3>you just need to learn how to be a better

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 3>shepherd of your own life.

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Good point. Just listen to it. Be aware of your

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 2>body when you start having little pains, deal with them

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 2>then so that they don't become big issues. You can't

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 2>lie to your body. You know, and communicate with your doctors.

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes they're not seeing something. If you say something, they'll

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 2>look for it. So just be able to communicate how

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 2>you're feeling and what you feel is going on with it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay to do that as adults.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick, what would you say is the silver lining about

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<v Speaker 1>living in your body as you age? I'm not interested

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<v Speaker 1>in what other people think of my body now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Silver Linings is a production of Iheart's Ruby Studios and

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<v Speaker 4>The Outspoken Network. We're your hosts Bill Lyons, Robert Breeves.

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<v Speaker 1>Mick Peterson, and Jesse Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>See in two weeks, I gave that up for men.

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<v Speaker 1>Men are my hobbies.

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<v Speaker 2>I can always catch someone in the audience to think too,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course they're given back to me too.

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<v Speaker 3>In twenty eighteen, when we became old Days, I never

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<v Speaker 3>imagined myself doing this