Speaker 1: Ruby.
Speaker 2: I just love this dirty men talk.
Speaker 3: Can we keep that in?
Speaker 1: And I'm supposed to be the massacrest because you could
Speaker 1: lose your day.
Speaker 2: From just beyond the lights of Los Angeles and steamy
Speaker 2: Palm Springs, California. It's Mick Robert Bill just say and this.
Speaker 1: Is silver lighting with the old days.
Speaker 3: Skeletons, muscles, ligaments, a arctic valve.
Speaker 4: What is this?
Speaker 3: We're talking about the body, aren't we?
Speaker 4: Yes? But it's not an anatomy lesson.
Speaker 2: Let's keep it above the skin, please.
Speaker 1: I won't promise.
Speaker 4: That that's right. Today, we're talking about our bodies.
Speaker 3: The thing we spend our whole lives adapting.
Speaker 1: To and in relationship with.
Speaker 2: When you're young, you feel like your body's going to
Speaker 2: stay the same forever.
Speaker 4: But as the years go by, you learn there's a
Speaker 4: lot to maintain and a whole lot of change.
Speaker 3: So come get naked with us emotionally, of course, as
Speaker 3: we talk about self confidence, aging.
Speaker 2: Nudity, and how we live and learn in these beautiful bodies.
Speaker 2: We've been given.
Speaker 4: Silver lining starts.
Speaker 1: Now to kick things off, If you could pick only one,
Speaker 1: what body part on other people do you love the most?
Speaker 4: The butt?
Speaker 3: I love lips being polically challenged. I'm always a reach
Speaker 3: a tive of somebody who has a good head of hair,
Speaker 3: and especially nowadays with a new fashioned tread where guys
Speaker 3: have curly hair kind of tangled and piled on top
Speaker 3: of their head, I find myself being very drawn to that.
Speaker 4: Well, if the person is facing me and I look
Speaker 4: at their front side first, it would be the eyes.
Speaker 4: But if they're walking away from me, it would be
Speaker 4: the butt. I agree with Bill on the butt. That's
Speaker 4: my second choice.
Speaker 2: Forget the eyes. You don't mind if they don't have them.
Speaker 1: As an anecdote, a very good friend of mine told
Speaker 1: me that he didn't care if I was a paraplegic
Speaker 1: as long as I had very big pecks. He had
Speaker 1: a peck fetish.
Speaker 3: I can see that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, for me, I'm more interested in the abs,
Speaker 1: but also as they're connected to the serratus and then
Speaker 1: the obliques, because he creates a really tight, tight, tight,
Speaker 1: kind of V shaped at the end, and then you
Speaker 1: can have as big a butt as you want.
Speaker 3: Oh. I think the external oblique is one of the
Speaker 3: sexiest muscles in the body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also one of the most ticklish double trouble.
Speaker 4: And also if they were facing me, the bulge would
Speaker 4: be one.
Speaker 5: Of the things I like too. You mean the cock,
Speaker 5: the junk, Yeah, yeah, the cock or the balls. It's
Speaker 5: called a penis, but there's more than just a penis
Speaker 5: in ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are nuts. Yeah, yeah, your testicles. Well we
Speaker 1: are talking anatomy, aren't we, and let's let's get into it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a rather important.
Speaker 1: Some people find it sexy.
Speaker 3: Tess say, you're unusually silent over there.
Speaker 2: I just love listening to y'all dirty men talk. This
Speaker 2: isn't dirty men talk. This is just anatomy. The dirty
Speaker 2: stuff comes later. Oh you're getting warmed up now, huh
Speaker 2: anatomy one oh one.
Speaker 1: You know, I could also say that, you know, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite parts of a human body is their fists.
Speaker 2: You stop that, young lady.
Speaker 1: But before it gets up there, you got to have
Speaker 1: a good look at it. You know. You don't want
Speaker 1: some gnarly thing up your butt.
Speaker 2: You know, yes, they're shrimmed nails moving right and old.
Speaker 2: What part of your own body do you love the most?
Speaker 2: And why?
Speaker 4: I would have to say for me and my eyes,
Speaker 4: I agree too. My grandmother at a very early age,
Speaker 4: when I was sort of in my silent period, you know,
Speaker 4: when you did, you're six or seven years old. She
Speaker 4: looked at me and she said, Bill, when you talk
Speaker 4: to someone, talk to them with your eyes. And it
Speaker 4: made me believe, Yeah, it is important.
Speaker 3: I've always felt that my eyes were one of my
Speaker 3: best parts, even when I was young, and really didn't
Speaker 3: feel like I was a very attractive person when I
Speaker 3: was young, But I did like my eyes even then,
Speaker 3: and they just that's the one part of me that
Speaker 3: hasn't changed much over the years.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll pick something. My smile. I look for that
Speaker 2: in me and I look for that in others also.
Speaker 3: I agree. I think a great smile is very important
Speaker 3: to me. Next question, are you comfortable with your naked body?
Speaker 3: And do you feel more comfortable in your body now
Speaker 3: than when you were younger? For me an emphatic no.
Speaker 3: I was much more involved with trying to exercise and
Speaker 3: maintain my body when I was younger, particularly the years
Speaker 3: living in San Francisco when that was a very body
Speaker 3: conscious culture during the nineteen eighties, and I was going
Speaker 3: to the gym three or four days a week and
Speaker 3: doing aerobics two to three days of the week, and
Speaker 3: at that time I had a pretty decent body, but
Speaker 3: I tend to let it go, and that is now
Speaker 3: nagging at me because I realized how important maintaining the
Speaker 3: body is to the health of the body and to
Speaker 3: living longer.
Speaker 1: A momb Yes, do you think at the time in
Speaker 1: San Francisco there was a lot of peer pressure to
Speaker 1: have a fantastic body that you noticed that the guys
Speaker 1: who were always having the most fun together were the
Speaker 1: guys with the best bodies.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it was peer pressure, but I didn't mind it
Speaker 3: at all. You know, it's so easy to step into
Speaker 3: that when you're in that culture.
Speaker 1: Was there a time, though, that when you were up
Speaker 1: there that you discovered that there was no point in
Speaker 1: doing that. If you were going to work out and train,
Speaker 1: you were going to do it for yourself and not
Speaker 1: for others.
Speaker 3: I have to say back then it was about pleasing
Speaker 3: others and being attractive to others, because you know, there
Speaker 3: was so many people that you were trying to be attractive.
Speaker 1: Too long ago I stopped working out for other people.
Speaker 1: In fact, I don't think I ever did. I am
Speaker 1: body conscious, and what I mean by that is a
Speaker 1: lot of bodybuilders go through this. They're so critical about
Speaker 1: the way they look. Now, I was checking themselves in
Speaker 1: the mirror and looking for every flaw that's available, and
Speaker 1: that can get to you. The thing is is you've
Speaker 1: got to understand. You know, you're training, and you're buffed,
Speaker 1: and you're doing juice and stuff like that. You're part
Speaker 1: of the one percenters and you know you're there for
Speaker 1: a period of time and then you move on just
Speaker 1: simply because our bodies do age, and that is kind
Speaker 1: of what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: Do you get self conscious or insecure about parts of
Speaker 3: your body?
Speaker 1: Well, No, I'm not self conscious. All I do is
Speaker 1: I look from an esthetic point of view, and I
Speaker 1: do enjoy working out, so as long as I can
Speaker 1: physically do it, I will, and I'm always looking to
Speaker 1: improve my technique and all of that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: And also the fact that you know, as your body
Speaker 1: age is your body just simply can't lift as much.
Speaker 1: But no, I've always I felt pretty comfortable with my
Speaker 1: body when I'm not being critical of it.
Speaker 3: How about too, Bill, Do you get self conscious about
Speaker 3: parts of your body?
Speaker 4: Yes, I do, just my body as a whole. I
Speaker 4: know I'm skinny and I should weigh a lot more
Speaker 4: than I do, so I am self conscious about being
Speaker 4: so slim, and I don't have a huge appetite, so
Speaker 4: it's not like just chowing down on food and that
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. I have a good diet, but it
Speaker 4: just seems like I can't gain any weight.
Speaker 3: To say, how about too.
Speaker 2: My body's moved. I appreciate the movement of it. I
Speaker 2: don't look in the mirror and say you a fine thing,
Speaker 2: but I keep moving. I keep moving. It's so funny.
Speaker 2: The other day when we were together and Mick brought
Speaker 2: up this one little simple move and I've been doing
Speaker 2: it ever since, just standing up without using your hands.
Speaker 2: I'd never thought of it, and it makes a difference
Speaker 2: because now I feel my thigh muscles and my butt
Speaker 2: muscles when I stand up. So just keep moving and
Speaker 2: don't be hard on yourself, because if it's not going
Speaker 2: to change, it's just not going to change. You got
Speaker 2: to love yourself where you are, and I need to
Speaker 2: learn to do that too, love myself where I am.
Speaker 1: I'm following up on that. I'll start with just saying,
Speaker 1: are you comfortable being naked with others? No other I can,
Speaker 1: but more than one other person. No, I'm not. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I don't under say you so you're you're comfortable if
Speaker 2: one on one what I wouldn't go to a naked party.
Speaker 2: I'm not comfortable in those. But in my home and
Speaker 2: in my backyard I am new. If somebody looks over
Speaker 2: a wall.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't mind.
Speaker 2: This is your thing, yes, but I am. I guess
Speaker 2: I'm not comfortable in my skin, but I deal with
Speaker 2: it and it's okay. I'm happy with just being me.
Speaker 2: Everybody doesn't have to be comfortable. I've done things with
Speaker 2: the Oldkays that I've never done that I wasn't comfortable with.
Speaker 2: But it stretches you. What doesn't kill you makes you
Speaker 2: stronger and you move on. Yeah, Bob, Yeah you have
Speaker 2: to look to that.
Speaker 3: Well. Yeah, I am comfortable being naked and being naked
Speaker 3: with others.
Speaker 1: I should say so.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: Our house is cling optional?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's always been. And sometimes I do work
Speaker 3: naked and I feel closer to my work when I
Speaker 3: do for some odd reason. And I back in the nineties,
Speaker 3: I went through a period where I did some posing
Speaker 3: naked for photo shoots for various websites that catered to
Speaker 3: the older and younger generation getting together.
Speaker 1: Well for my two cents, Yes, I'm comfortable being naked
Speaker 1: with others. I started posing naked probably about nineteen ninety one,
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one. Prior to that, you know, I was
Speaker 1: an actor, so yes, it was offered, and I know
Speaker 1: I didn't do it because I was an actor and
Speaker 1: I wanted to be considered legit. Now, if I had
Speaker 1: to do it over again, yes, I would pose for
Speaker 1: Roy Dean. I don't think that would have been a
Speaker 1: problem in my life would have been different, and I'm pleased.
Speaker 1: I look at the pictures and I think, geek. You know,
Speaker 1: I looked like that once, but you know, when you're
Speaker 1: at my age now, it was done and I don't
Speaker 1: think I'll be doing it again, and that's fine with me,
Speaker 1: and I hope people enjoy it. Just don't stain the photo.
Speaker 4: Actually, we've all posed naked for a photo shoot. We
Speaker 4: were doing a scene from Little nas X and it
Speaker 4: was a prison scene in a shower and they gave
Speaker 4: us these skimpy, little beige colored cloths to wear over it.
Speaker 4: But it was it was great if you shaved down there,
Speaker 4: but if you didn't, they kept falling off, and finally
Speaker 4: we just all threw ours away and we did the
Speaker 4: scene and then they did the little blotchy thing for
Speaker 4: our genitals in it, but we were all the fifteen
Speaker 4: people were watching us totally nude.
Speaker 1: There was a little circle around our genitals.
Speaker 2: I remember that it was a cold day, cold day.
Speaker 4: If I could tell my younger self one thing about
Speaker 4: my body that I wish I knew sooner, it would
Speaker 4: be there's nothing more underrated than a good night's sleep.
Speaker 2: If I could tell my younger self one thing about
Speaker 2: my body that I wish I knew sooner, it would
Speaker 2: be love you love yourself. It's okay to put yourself first.
Speaker 3: If I could tell my young your self one thing
Speaker 3: about my body that I wish I knew sooner, it
Speaker 3: would be bloss daily. Why because you could lose your.
Speaker 2: Teeth, all of them with the dead.
Speaker 3: And it was because I didn't lost daily. How have
Speaker 3: you cared for your body and health over the years,
Speaker 3: Bill Well, When I lived in southern California, I went
Speaker 3: to quite a few different gyms, victannies and this kind
Speaker 3: of stuff, and I just found that gyms were really
Speaker 3: not for me.
Speaker 4: But when I moved to Palm Springs. I met a
Speaker 4: yoga instructor and I started doing yoga and it was
Speaker 4: the greatest exercise that I've ever done. Was sort of
Speaker 4: like dancing and working out at the same time, and
Speaker 4: I really really enjoyed it. And I've studied with him
Speaker 4: for eight years, which also led he had a meditation
Speaker 4: group too. And when I got through with my yoga
Speaker 4: and I went back to my apartment, people said, oh,
Speaker 4: you look so happy, And I really was, because yoga
Speaker 4: not only gave me a sense of exercise, but mentally,
Speaker 4: that's all I was thinking about, was doing yoga, and
Speaker 4: everything else wasn't even there. It was just yoga that
Speaker 4: I concentrated on and I absolutely loved it. And I
Speaker 4: still do yoga once a week.
Speaker 3: Me. I know, you don't exercise at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've cared for my body over the years. I've
Speaker 1: been very much aware of my health and tried to
Speaker 1: take good care of it. One thing I will say
Speaker 1: is that you know, usually when a new problem comes up,
Speaker 1: the old problem goes away. So the things that I
Speaker 1: had dealt with when I was younger in terms of
Speaker 1: my health, like my lower back, which I think had
Speaker 1: a lot to do with lifting. You know, now just
Speaker 1: something else went wrong and so you know that problem
Speaker 1: goes away. So I think caring for your body changes
Speaker 1: over the years, and the deficiencies that you found previously
Speaker 1: no longer really apply. You have new deficiencies to deal with.
Speaker 1: How about brain exercises.
Speaker 4: I do crossword puzzles for my brain, and I also
Speaker 4: enjoy doing Solitaire on the computer because it really keeps me,
Speaker 4: you know, moving and thinking about this and that. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I do brain exercises also.
Speaker 3: Yeah, say why do you say it like that? What's
Speaker 3: your physical exercise?
Speaker 2: I walk twice daily. Now that I'm starting to be
Speaker 2: able to walk, I still walk slowly, but I'm moving.
Speaker 2: And that's the main thing with anything is you need
Speaker 2: to keep your body moving. As for memorizing the dances,
Speaker 2: they're great. As for memorizing the lines, my brain sucks
Speaker 2: at it. It shuts it off. And that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: And because I'm constantly singing, because I'm having to memorize
Speaker 2: six million songs.
Speaker 3: I was going to say, I bet singing is a
Speaker 3: good brain exercise.
Speaker 2: What's something you tried once for your health that absolutely
Speaker 2: didn't work?
Speaker 3: I recall years ago I saw so many people jogging
Speaker 3: for exercise, and I thought, well, I'll try that night
Speaker 3: jog for a couple of days, and I said, this
Speaker 3: is not for me. So that's something I tried and rejected.
Speaker 3: But what happened I just didn't like it. That was
Speaker 3: hard work.
Speaker 1: You didn't develop like shin splints or anything like that.
Speaker 3: No, physically, it was just I did not I did
Speaker 3: enjoy it, So I I know something. Some people really
Speaker 3: get into it. They do, and particularly with headphones and
Speaker 3: listening to music as they're jogging. I tell you, at
Speaker 3: this point in my life, there's one kind of a
Speaker 3: mantra that I'm developing to try to urge me into exercise.
Speaker 3: But I know without a doubt that if I exercise more,
Speaker 3: it would probably add a few years to my life,
Speaker 3: and when you're my age, adding a few years to
Speaker 3: your life is a big thing. So I'm struggling with
Speaker 3: this right now.
Speaker 1: Well. You know, I've been working out since I was fifteen,
Speaker 1: and I have to say, the best workouts that I've
Speaker 1: ever had is when I've been absolutely completely covered in sweat.
Speaker 1: It feels so good because your body purges and afterwards
Speaker 1: you've had a good meal, and sit back and relax
Speaker 1: and you feel real good. What I miss about that
Speaker 1: those days in which I didn't have any health problems
Speaker 1: is working out really strong during the day and then
Speaker 1: having a good eight hours of sleep.
Speaker 2: And now a word for mick.
Speaker 1: One thing to understand about exercise training, and it becomes
Speaker 1: even more important as one ages is get plenty of sleep.
Speaker 1: And then I'm talking about rim sleep. For me right now,
Speaker 1: I put on these recordings different frequencies and things like
Speaker 1: that to help you fall asleep, and they do really work.
Speaker 1: They help control the mind because it has a lot
Speaker 1: to do with the tones and the notes and the
Speaker 1: vibrations that are being caused, and as a result, you
Speaker 1: just fall into a really good deep sleep. So there
Speaker 1: are aids out there if you are having trouble falling asleep,
Speaker 1: you can use them as a crutch. The other thing
Speaker 1: I would say is also make sure that you take
Speaker 1: magnesium at night, because that'll help you in terms of
Speaker 1: keep you from cramp, but it'll also help soothe the
Speaker 1: stomach and also again it flows through the body. And
Speaker 1: the other thing I discovered now is ashwaganda, which is
Speaker 1: from South Asian medicine, and this if taken properly, will
Speaker 1: reduce the level of cortisol in your system.
Speaker 3: I think that is probably one of the most important
Speaker 3: things for human beings to do, is get a good
Speaker 3: night's rest. And fortunately I've found my ways, and I
Speaker 3: usually go to bed between eight and nine in the
Speaker 3: evening almost every evening, and I do get a really
Speaker 3: good seven to eight hours of sleep a day, and
Speaker 3: I usually wake naturally when the sun roses, and I
Speaker 3: feel great the next day. But if that doesn't happen,
Speaker 3: forget the next day. It's a ride off. And now
Speaker 3: it's time for my current addiction. Today, my current addiction
Speaker 3: is ensured.
Speaker 4: It absolutely helps me make it through the day. I
Speaker 4: know I'm getting at least thirty grams of protein and
Speaker 4: all the other trace minerals and everything, and it just
Speaker 4: makes me feel good that I'm putting all of this
Speaker 4: good stuff in my body.
Speaker 3: And Bill's trying to add pounds onto that skinny frame.
Speaker 1: Of his and it's never gonna happen.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think that this.
Speaker 2: People will just live. You're cute, your bounty, enjoy it.
Speaker 3: My current edition is Aliens. I'm fascinated by the idea
Speaker 3: that we not only have made contact with aliens, but
Speaker 3: they're living among us. And lately there's this mystery going
Speaker 3: on about high ranking people who are involved in scientific
Speaker 3: studies are disappearing. I know, I saw that are being murdered,
Speaker 3: are killed in different ways, and there's something going on.
Speaker 1: All involved with like plasma physics.
Speaker 3: Yes, confusion, yes, both private sector and government.
Speaker 1: So you cank it's something out of the X files.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. I think that something something's going on.
Speaker 4: When it comes to aging, what changes have surprised you
Speaker 4: the most?
Speaker 2: You go first, Bill, Okay, I will.
Speaker 4: Be happy to I mean, twenty years ago, I was
Speaker 4: five ten and a half, and twenty years later, i'm
Speaker 4: eight and a half inches.
Speaker 1: Very good, Bill, Thank you, Thank you. Bill.
Speaker 2: How's that for topic?
Speaker 1: Folks want to move on? He went from ten and
Speaker 1: a half down to eight. Congratulations. I'll keep that.
Speaker 4: Can we keep that in?
Speaker 2: I'll try it again.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: You know, I've always heard as a kid that as
Speaker 4: you grow older, you grow shorter. But I've owned from
Speaker 4: five feet ten inches to eight feet five inches.
Speaker 1: Wow, Bill, three feet.
Speaker 2: You said you you said you went from five ten
Speaker 2: to eight five ten to eight feet. That's not going
Speaker 2: God and you kind.
Speaker 4: Of love someone else?
Speaker 3: Do it? No?
Speaker 4: No, okay, okay, listen, it's fine. I heard when I
Speaker 4: was young that as you grow older you get shorter.
Speaker 4: But I went from five feet ten inches to five
Speaker 4: foot eight inches and I was amazed that I dropped
Speaker 4: two inches. Well, I've gone from six to to five
Speaker 4: eleven and a half.
Speaker 1: What changes have surprised you the most? Yeah, I'm going
Speaker 1: to have to think about that.
Speaker 2: I have something. The one thing my hair. I was
Speaker 2: not ready to lose my hair, and it was totally traumatic,
Speaker 2: and people who'd never had a hair problem kept saying
Speaker 2: the wrong things to me, and I would get so
Speaker 2: upset because you can't talk about sucking that you've never
Speaker 2: experienced if you don't know what it's like to go
Speaker 2: through it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 2: It was a humbling experience. But now I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: hair if you have paid me except when doing drag though,
Speaker 2: But that's it, lovesh. I get up and shake my
Speaker 2: head and name nothing else to do.
Speaker 1: Well, I would say, what has surprised me the most
Speaker 1: are the new medications and supplements it that there are
Speaker 1: are there, It's a whole industry, and I will have
Speaker 1: to say it helps, It really does, you know, God
Speaker 1: bless the world for copper peptide shampoo because that not
Speaker 1: only removes the DHDT that is preventing your hair from growing,
Speaker 1: but it also nourishes it so the fall exiles return.
Speaker 1: When I left the hospital, I didn't have much hair
Speaker 1: on my head, and now I have too much. So
Speaker 1: you just have to find out what's going to work
Speaker 1: for you and what doesn't. And it's a trial and
Speaker 1: error kind of thing. But look, I wouldn't be here
Speaker 1: without the medications that I'm taking. I mean, I'm going
Speaker 1: to be taking really three different kinds of experimental drugs,
Speaker 1: including the one to treat CIDP, and so I'm just
Speaker 1: amazed at the processes that are being used for like vaccinations,
Speaker 1: even controlling your heartburn.
Speaker 3: And ED meds. There's a wonderful rain of medications to
Speaker 3: assist with ED nowadays. And that's important to me because
Speaker 3: I think, and argasm a day is important for your health.
Speaker 3: Just one good for you, Bob.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 2: I got that first white hair in my pubic area
Speaker 2: and it freaked me out. I was not ready for
Speaker 2: that at all. But now you just come them or
Speaker 2: pluck them or.
Speaker 1: Shoved them on.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, see three different things, folks. You learned here
Speaker 2: with that plucking note. White hairs are thick?
Speaker 3: Are they get me?
Speaker 2: Pluck one of yours.
Speaker 4: I'd never measured one.
Speaker 1: And I'm supposed to be the massochist and you are.
Speaker 2: So to conclude, what would you say is the silver
Speaker 2: lining about living in your body as you age?
Speaker 4: I would have to say the advances in medication have
Speaker 4: been able to make us all live longer.
Speaker 3: Well, I would say you the silver lining about dealing
Speaker 3: with what we're all dealing with is your alive and
Speaker 3: you just need to learn how to be a better
Speaker 3: shepherd of your own life.
Speaker 2: Good point. Just listen to it. Be aware of your
Speaker 2: body when you start having little pains, deal with them
Speaker 2: then so that they don't become big issues. You can't
Speaker 2: lie to your body. You know, and communicate with your doctors.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're not seeing something. If you say something, they'll
Speaker 2: look for it. So just be able to communicate how
Speaker 2: you're feeling and what you feel is going on with it.
Speaker 2: It's okay to do that as adults.
Speaker 1: Nick, what would you say is the silver lining about
Speaker 1: living in your body as you age? I'm not interested
Speaker 1: in what other people think of my body now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Silver Linings is a production of Iheart's Ruby Studios and
Speaker 4: The Outspoken Network. We're your hosts Bill Lyons, Robert Breeves.
Speaker 1: Mick Peterson, and Jesse Martin.
Speaker 2: Our executive producer is Sierra Kaiser, Supervising producer Kelly Kyle,
Speaker 2: Story production Ryan Amador, with post production by Eric Ziler.
Speaker 1: See in two weeks, I gave that up for men.
Speaker 1: Men are my hobbies.
Speaker 2: I can always catch someone in the audience to think too,
Speaker 2: and of course they're given back to me too.
Speaker 3: In twenty eighteen, when we became old Days, I never
Speaker 3: imagined myself doing this