WEBVTT - Week 9 recap 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:06.520 The Around the NFL Podcast one a Stitcher Award. I think, 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.840 where the hell is that? Welcome back to another edition 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:12.560 of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.520 Hansens and I'm joined by Room Feldood Heroes, Mark Sessler, 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:21.600 Chris Westling and Greg Rosa Doll. What's Up Boys? Sunday 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:25.720 Night recap show, the flagship show of the Around the 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:28.800 NFL Podcast. Another big week in the NFL, How the Boss? 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.080 It was the best set of early games all season, 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:35.120 not even close. Really, Yeah, I just called it. What 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:37.159 jumped out to you is you know what made it 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:42.080 so special? Good games? Packers, Panthers, Raiders, Steelers, meaningful games, 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.800 Vikings Rams was a close one, Bills off. You know 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:46.880 a lot of games that had meaning. Perhaps you're forgetting 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.000 Week three a great early got a side of a 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:52.920 Dan there, very strong week. I'll never forget the Week 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.760 three slate, West, how you doing good? Good for the 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.680 first time in history? Three eight no teams? That is 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:02.800 that's historic? Also historic. There's another downstairs in the newsroom. 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.280 There's another bald white that was wearing the same pullover 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.880 sweatshirt as West Beefy Baldy, and they looked like brothers, 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:14.080 and you have seven brothers, so six Jason Hartilius could 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:16.360 be a Westling. It was impressive. I was like ten 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.640 ft away and I don't have good eyesight. I was like, oh, 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:20.800 west is coming over to get some Italian dinner or no, 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:25.200 it was Jason. Yes. So coming up on today's show, 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:29.679 we have, of course, the Panthers remain undefeated, and they 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.680 did it in very impressive fashion by taking down the Packers. 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.600 So there's a lot to unpack their unpacked Packers. I'm 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.360 the host nailed it. Big Ben injured again, the Steelers 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.920 dealing with more injury woes, so we will get into 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:47.960 that unpacked that situation in Pittsburgh and the Buffalo Bills 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.920 one of the teams that we forked, and you know this, 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:52.880 this whole thing with the fork. They they're back at 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:56.760 five hundred after wasting the Dolphins this day with the fork. 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:58.880 I don't know if we should do it anymore because 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:03.160 we were not of us feel confident, like, for instance, 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.880 we would all take back forking the Bills and the 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.079 and the Raiders, and I'm sure there's another team out 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:11.239 there that could make us look silly. That's something we 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.200 need to get together maybe over Danish and bagels and 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:18.160 coffee there for Tuesday's show. This is but it's just 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:20.799 it's backing up Greg's point that we were being too 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.560 you know, audacious with some of our forkings, and you're 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.440 simply just proving the boss right. So you know, it's like, 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:29.400 I'm not like trying to stick it to Greg. If 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.440 Greg was making a good point. I know with you 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.080 you don't want to give Greg any credit, but I'm 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:35.560 just giving Greg credit. May actually, well, are we gonna 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:39.880 do this again? Credit? Last the last podcast was the 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:43.839 credit podcast. That was one before that, in the previous one. 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:47.320 So anyway, yes, the fork we'll talk about that on 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:51.360 Tuesday's show, our final four conversation at least in terms 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:55.280 of forking teams. So that's all coming up in a 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:59.080 big show. I feel good. It was excited. Oh yeah, 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.200 all right, let's do Let's talk some football, and let's 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:07.280 start with Carolina and Green Bay and Cam Newton throws 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.800 three touchdown passes runs for another score and the Carolina 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.400 Panthers can you believe it? Can you believe it? Eight no? 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.320 With a thirty nine win over the Green Bay Packers, 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.960 who have now lost two straight Mark Sessler, nobody should 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.840 be doubting the Panthers as a Super Bowl contender at 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:27.240 the taking down the Packers and the Seahawks right couldn't 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.359 agree more. I mean, I think that they keep proving 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.080 week after week that whatever comes out than whatever type 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.560 of team it is, they'll surprise you over and over. 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.720 I mean their offense that we I kind of ruled 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:40.520 this Panthers offense out when Kelvin Benjamin was gone, and 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.160 what they're doing not just running the ball but through 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.040 the air today was incredibly impressive. Cam Newton through a 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.560 late pick that nearly would have turned the narrative of 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.480 this game completely on its ass, But honestly, what he 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.880 did previous to that was some of the most aggressive 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.720 passing we've seen from the Panthers this year. Two passes 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.160 of fifty plus yards, another one thirty nine yard for 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.240 a touchdown. He he made this Green Bay defense, which 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.560 has given up five hundred yards two games in a row, 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:10.240 look desperate. The Packers getting boat raced by the Broncos 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.080 and then for the first half of this game for 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.760 sixth straight quarters is one of the most surprising things 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:16.640 I think to happen this year. Not just that they're 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.200 getting beat they're playing good teams, good defenses, but that 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.719 it wasn't remotely competitive. Of course, they did, you know, 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:26.040 make a good comeback in this at one point, they 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.360 did come back. You know in NFL medium Sary and 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.359 Rappaport noted before the game that there was issues in 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.479 Green Bay with their passing game and they wanted to 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:37.280 go less aggressive and start throwing more methodical short routes. 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:39.680 And we saw that early and it didn't work at all. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.200 It didn't. It was almost like Rogers just didn't trust 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.720 the receivers that he has out there. Second half, they 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:46.760 got going and they just went back to what they 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.560 do with him at quarterback and they made a game 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.359 of this. It was very concerning for Carolina Lake. We 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:56.560 have some video on the sideline the Packers. This kind 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.080 of tells you a little bit about the frustration. Do 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:03.480 we have that tat um the frustration. You can watch us, 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:07.599 of course on YouTube. Every Sunday show is on YouTube. 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:11.040 Check that out. But b J Rajie haha, Clinton Dix 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.800 get get into it on the sidelines um at one 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.200 point and it just shows the frustration bubbling over. I 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.600 think there was a feeling especially in the early part 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.320 of the season that this was gonna be one of 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.720 those Packers seasons where they roll into fourteen and two 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:25.360 and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, they 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.400 hit this choppy water. The offensive line was just as 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.240 much of a problem as the receivers have been made 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:33.280 out to be. Rogers got hit what fourteen times today? Yep, 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.440 sacks five times, and I mean if it wasn't for 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.760 his completely stellar footwork in the way he is able 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.560 to escape the rush, he would have been sacked nine times. Well, 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.320 you talked about Cam Newton going down the field. If 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:48.200 he's sitting vertical print plays the funches and Jericho Cottrie, 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.840 which I wouldn't necessarily expect each week. I mean, then 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:52.720 this team can win a Super Bowl. I mean that 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:56.800 is that is the thing that would hold this team back. Theoretically, 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.000 I think they're good enough to get the number one 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.520 seed in the NFC, certainly contend for a Super Bowl. 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.560 They're now two games up on the field. But if 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:07.560 they start getting that passing game going consistently, I mean, 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.599 they have everything and they only needed Jonathan Steward hit 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.960 about sixty yards and it wasn't we just have a 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.799 one dimensional run based attack. Newton killed him with his feet. 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.680 Stewart did just enough. They trust Steward on long third 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.640 downs to give him the ball and he converted. But 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.559 you're right, it was the passing game and Newton's trust 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:27.359 of his receivers. I mean he throwing ball forty yards 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.360 through the air and trusting his receivers to make the catch. 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.400 The point of attack, I mean Devin Funchis, who had 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.680 given them nothing really this season to this point. If 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.240 he becomes a player on this offense, and then you 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.800 have Greg Olsen and Jonathan Stewart, Jonathan Stewart's running, well, 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.720 they're gonna score enough points. And I mean there for real, 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:45.839 ain't no how can you doubt them to this point? Well, 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.560 I almost want to see was this Green Bay's defense 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.760 because they looked that bad and look against against offenses 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:54.680 that aren't known to light people up. What happened the 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:58.640 game before that? That was Philip Rivers. Game Mark made 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:00.640 a good point in the news room about the Panthers 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:04.320 stability as an organization. They could have easily fired Ron 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.240 Rivera after a year or two. Instead, they gave him 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.080 an extension. And if you look at the three undefeated teams. 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.120 Belichick and Marvin Lewis are the two longest tenured coaches 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:15.440 in the league. They've got to combine twenty nine years. 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.160 Ron Rivera has been in Carolina for five years. They 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:19.640 gave him an extension. I think there's a lot to 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:23.239 be said for that stability. Is it crazy to start 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.480 thinking about sixteen and oh for the Panthers, because if 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:29.040 you look at their schedule, I think the odds are 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.080 of course they're gonna get picked off one of these weeks. 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.720 But if you look at their schedule, there isn't a 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.920 single particularly hard game left on it. There's not a 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:40.360 game where they're not going to be favored significantly added. 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.720 You know, the Falcons no longer looks like that tough 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:44.160 of a game. They gotta sweep and that stuff. You 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.280 gotta go to New Orleans. That's not necessarily easy, but 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.600 there are there are no great teams left on this 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.560 Carolina schedule. So even if they don't go to sixty, no, 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.320 maybe they could threaten it. And if they don't go 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.640 fourteen and two, I'd be stunned. They're gonna get that. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.239 I think if and this is a credit to the Panthers, 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.360 not taking it away like they could easily be five 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.640 and three right now. They've been games where they they 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.200 they've been outplayed or things broke the right way at 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:07.600 the end of the game where they made the play 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.000 to win the game. So this has been very different. 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:11.720 Like when they talk about the Patriots at eight now, 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:13.720 I feel differently like I have to think they have 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:15.200 a real shot at it, but I think the Panthers 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.400 will have some weeks where they because they can get 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.960 picked up by most teams that are averaging better. Right 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.040 I don't think they're a dominant team. I think it 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.080 came into the year they're having to figure out who 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:27.640 they were on offense, especially, and I don't for me, 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:29.600 I don't care if they go sixteen and know they're 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.080 in pole position just to have home field throughout the playoffs, 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.160 which would be completely unexpected for this team. As great 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.079 as Cam Newton has been this year, we all know 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.320 he's one of the most things consistent passers in the league. 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.240 It wouldn't surprise me at all if he just has 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.480 a bad game and they lose. Did you guys hear 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:47.559 about Bannergate? Yes, yes, we did, not to use the 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.559 word game to listen any longer when it comes to controversial, 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.880 Mark and Greg and I exchange the heated debate about 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:58.640 this subject before you entered the Well, let me just 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.840 fill in the listeners first. That banner gate occurred when 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:05.360 Cam Newton was stretching before this game on Sunday and 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.840 saw a Packers fan hanging up a banner at Bank 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:10.760 of America Stadium that said, you know, it was like 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:14.480 Packard Country in North Carolina. Ripped a banner down, and 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.880 the fan who had paid five hundred dollars to make 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.280 that banner and was planning to hang it in his 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:23.199 man room quote unquote reported it to the local authorities 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.720 and Panthers officials. Now, what were you saying? That's ridiculous. 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.240 I think things Cam Newton should be allowed to go 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.439 out and break whatever you want. Ever care care about 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.720 the smallest things. If you spend five dollars on a sign, 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.679 you deserve to lose that money. That's ridiculous. What Greg 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.400 said to west Night before you appeared in the room 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:43.760 was said, I don't care about the working person. Well, 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:47.199 Greg's not a regular, That's the thing. Hey, here's what 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.400 regular Joe's do they spend five hundred dollars on a 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:54.199 silly sign. That's the regular that the psychopath it was 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:57.559 the tailgate with it and then put in kind of 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:01.080 scratch line and then that you strug to put yourself 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.920 in the mind of the average man. No, I am 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.480 the average man, but I don't think it's some huge 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.599 deal in cam Newton should be castigated for it, but 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:13.839 he should have to. The Panthers should reimburse this guy's 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.839 Apparently the Panthers did intimate that to the man that 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.559 they'll take care of him. But you know, ken a 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:23.240 multimillion dollar corporation, the Carolina Panthers can can they float 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:27.080 five dollars for a sign? And you know this isn't 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:30.440 Camp's first time stealing things. I'm just gonna say there's 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:37.880 a history, alright, Sticky fingers Newton they call him. So 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:42.360 Carolina remains unbeaten. How about the Denver Broncos. Uh Andrew 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.760 Luck picked a great time to return to form on Sunday, 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.439 throwing for two fifty two yards and a touchdown and 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:54.040 two touchdowns and win, knocking the Broncos from the ranks 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.360 of the unbeaten Chris Westling. This game was supposed to 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:59.800 be all about Peyton Manning setting records. Instead, the real 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:03.240 Andrew Luck returned. Yeah, the Broncos are actually kind of 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:06.360 lucky they were in this game. They got a long 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.839 punt return as time expired going into halftime to get 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:13.000 on the board, and then Peyton Manning hit Emmanuel Sanders 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:14.960 with a sixty four yard touched down a third quarter. 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:18.960 Outside of those two plays, the Colts just absolutely dominated 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:21.840 the first three the first three quarters. Andrew Luck looked 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.240 this was easily his best game of the year. Well, 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:27.160 Denver came out a halftime, put together a big drive, 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.360 tied the game in the middle of the third quarter, 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.079 and at that point they had all the momentum in 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.679 the world. If that's a thing that exists, and you 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.240 just got the better team is gonna, you know, stand 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.000 up here, and that was the team. That was a 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.240 spot where I thought the Colts were gonna absolutely roll over, 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.040 and instead they respond with a great drive against the 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.199 defense we've been calling the best in the league. And 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.000 then they do it again at the end of the game, 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.439 a six minute drive to end the game. You know, 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.079 you hear about a four minute offense often in the 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:55.920 NFL try to kill the clock, and in the game 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.040 they killed six minutes and three of the Broncos time outs. 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:00.760 That's one of the best drives I once had all year. 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:05.880 Two words Rob Chatzynski. Yeah, and I was wondering downstairs, 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:07.439 how long do it take from Mark to spin it 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.480 back to an o C. So you're saying all of 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.520 this is because Rob chat Zynski got promoted Andrew Luck 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:17.040 now great again all for chud Well. In Mark's defense, 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.520 the wide receivers were more open. If you've been watching 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:20.839 the Cools this year, you know that one of the 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.520 reasons Luck's been holding the balls because the wide receivers 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.360 aren't separating. They got open against a very the best 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.160 secondary in the league, or one of the best secondaries 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.920 in the league. Well, keep to lead, very good cornerback, 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:33.679 not so good with his actions at the end of 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:35.160 the game. They would have had a chance to get 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:38.160 the ball back and he sticks his fingers. That was 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:44.240 pretty good though, And old school I gouge. You don't 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.720 see much of those anymore, like mo from the Three Stooges. Yeah, exactly, 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.520 nice Three Stooges reference. I like it right. You don't 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:53.520 see it a lot though, And and and to top 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:54.840 it off, it was like reminded me of like an 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.840 old eighties wrestling thing when someone would rake Hulk Hogan's 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.800 eyes and then Hogan to be like feeling around idea 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:03.719 now and sold it pretty well as well. Well, that's 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:05.559 what it came to. Leap said after the game, you 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.400 would have thought that he was in a sixteen car 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.840 accident the way he reacted. Dwayne Allen that was after them, 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.000 that that did cost him a chance. It did prevent 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.600 what would have been the most like anti climactic moment 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.160 of the day was Peyton Manning was about to get 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.520 back out on the field throw a pass completed and 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.000 he would have broken the passing yards record. Then he 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.920 was only three yards short in a meaningless moment where 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.400 they had really no right another week of this breaking 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.199 records for Peyton Manning chatter do we have to write 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:32.360 more material on this now because it's going Yeah. I 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.760 had already written the one for breaking it this week, 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:36.559 so now we're gonna have to pre write one for 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:38.160 next week. At least we know what will happen at 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.520 the beginning of the game. That doesn't really matter. I'm 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.000 more I'm more concerned about the long term stuff here 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:44.760 for the Colts. I mean, does this mean we think 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.520 we feel pretty safe having forked the rest of the well, 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.120 we haven't forked the Titans. Yet. By the way, I 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.320 called them a bad, bad football team because they played 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.319 like a bad, bad football team. But they were a 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.120 pretty good team today. They looked pretty well rounded. They 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.840 lost Mike Adams to an ankle injury and Henry Anderson, 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.600 the really good rookie pensive end, to a knee injury. 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:03.559 What to see how serious those are, But those two 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.640 guys have been probably two of the three or four 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.640 best defensive players. If you even get Luck at you know, 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:10.760 mid tier between this game and some of the others, 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.560 are gonna win this division easy. Yeah. It is crazy though, 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:17.400 because Monday night Andrew Luck was really appalling at times. 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:19.960 And this Andrew Luck was the guy that we remembered 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:21.520 from last year and the year before that. I mean, 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.560 it was the first time, the first time all year, 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.320 even going back to Week one, it's the first time 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.280 all year that I've thought Andrew Luck looked like the 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:28.960 Andrew Luck were used to see. You know, It's a 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.520 big difference is he's made so many bad decisions of 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.880 of when to run or or won't even run throughout 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.840 the season and he was great today on the last 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.280 two quarters against the Panthers, he was Yeah, he was 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.120 phenomenal with his legs to the how about Peyton Manning. 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:47.360 The response last week after he had that big game 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.840 was like, Okay, maybe Peyton Manning's coming back all the 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.840 way this year. His arm looked fine, looked better than 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.080 it did in the first seven weeks. But the first 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.480 half looked a lot like the playoff loss, where he's 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.600 just throwing over and over again downfield and not connecting 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:02.760 on anything. He came came alive a little bit in 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:04.640 the second half, but still through like the game ceiling 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:08.400 interception to Darius Butler. All right, let's get into talk 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:12.360 of two more a f C playoff contenders. Uh Antonio Brown. 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:16.480 Brown went off on Sunday seventeen catches two and eighty 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.960 four yards. Again, Mark, this is you and your brother 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.440 dueling and super techmo Bowl back in one. That's the 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:27.360 type of production we're talking abouts. She destroyed your brother. Now. Actually, 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.280 you know I'm gonna hear from at some point because 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:34.480 he listens to the show Bowl player against me. Antonio 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:38.320 Brown goes seventeen two eight four excuse me, no touchdowns? 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:40.960 You stink, but it didn't matter. He led the Steelers 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.720 to a thirty thirty five win over the Oakland Raiders 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.040 game that came down to a field goal of the gun, 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.600 So a big rin for the Steelers, but Greg Nice win. 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:53.920 Steelers get it done, tempered though by another huge injury 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.200 to one of their key players, their most important player, 0:15:56.320 --> 0:16:00.240 and Roethlisberger is out with a mid foot spring. Is 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.920 what Albert Brier is reporting for us. It's supposed to 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:05.920 came out a couple of weeks. They have the Browns 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.520 this week in Pittsburgh and then they have a by 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.000 So if you were creating a scenario of when to 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.680 have a multiple week injury, this is it because they 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.880 can possibly win that game against the Browns. I don't 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.880 think it's a possible run. Well, you know, Landry Jones 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:20.680 will be starting, and then you get a week off. 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.640 Maybe you get Roethlisberger back after that and if they 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.080 make the playoffs there five and four. Now, these two 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:30.200 games where they had their backup quarterback come in and 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.440 win at the end, it was Michael Vick against the 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.400 Rams and now Landry Jones against the Raiders could be 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.680 the difference of them making the playoffs. The Raiders came 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.120 back and they tied this game, but it was Landry 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:43.360 Jones who basically just did what Ben Roethlisberger did all day. 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:45.840 Got the ball to Antonio Brown and let Antonio Brown 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:47.760 do the best they can direct snap the ball to 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.040 Heath Miller next week and beat the Browns. I mean, 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.360 it was one of the most amazing two person performances, 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.760 maybe the most in NFL history. Antonio Brown had four 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:02.160 D'Angelo Williams uh was in well over a hundred. They 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:06.080 combined for five hundred and thirty one totally yards from scrimmains. 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.399 That's the most in NFL history from two people. Are 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.440 you just saying that Levy on Bella is is basically 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.440 a system back? No? I mean you saying that the 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:17.639 Raiders secondary is trash. The Raiders secondary is gonna prevent 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:19.719 them from making the playoffs. I think in the end, 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.000 I think that's what's gonna keep them. They have a chance. 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.359 Their offenses did they have guarding Antonio Brown DJ Hayden 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.760 Early and then Emerson Lamerson D J Hayden. Hayden got 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:31.880 hurt in the game, so that didn't help. I guess 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.160 that doesn't help. But because he's not very good either. 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:36.680 Charles Woodson gave up a lot of big plays. You 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.440 can shut up about your Charles Woodson for Defensive Player 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:41.400 of the Year, a lot of throws going over his head. 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.239 Antonio Brown would have had another sixty yards if Ben 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.800 Roethlisberger had hit him on a wide open deep players. 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.720 People only watching the highlights have Charles Woodson and the keep. 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:52.960 There's Charles Woodson you're watching on YouTube getting out running well. 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.520 The hero worship of Charles Woodson and a great career, 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.480 and he's going into the camp. He's going into the hall. 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.480 But like people talking him up as a Defense Player 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.280 of the Year, it's got so out of control. On 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:05.080 that last Antonio Brown reception that basically put the game away, 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:09.159 Dan Foults on the CBS broadcast is like bellowings like, 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.280 oh and look who comes and gets them Charles Woodson 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.600 Like that, then you're giving him, You're trying to give 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:17.480 him more credit for getting beat on the sixty yard reception. 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:19.600 I feel bad now that we're piloting on Charles with it. 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:23.240 He's legitimately having a Pro Bowl season at the one 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.359 started it, but he he should not be in that 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:30.280 Greg if you're gonna start to finishing. We called their 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:35.560 secondary trash, but let's credit their offense. Two they didn't 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:37.520 have a single thirty yard game. They have four of 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.760 them this year. They were limited in a lot of 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.560 the game, especially the first half, by the Steelers defense, 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.720 which has been better. But what they do is when 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.880 they explode, it is fast. It's a forty yard run 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:53.280 by Latavius Murray, who also left this game with an 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:56.440 injury and did not return any concussion second in the 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:58.199 last ten or eleven months, and that was a big 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:00.040 loss late because he was He has looked great the 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.000 last couple of weeks. He's a true power back. But 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:05.639 when they suddenly score, it's in bunches. Michael Crabtree and 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:10.320 another Hunter, Derek Carr, some beautiful touch passes over the middle. 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:13.480 Very clutchy. Had his one bad throw the whole day 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:15.320 was an interception late in the game, but they got 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:17.400 the ball back and then tied it up. He's gonna 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:19.800