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Speaker 3: are practicing right now.
Speaker 4: Outside get.
Speaker 3: Headquarters to get ready for the home opener against the
Speaker 3: New York Football Giants, kicking off at New A T
Speaker 3: and T Stadium. Yesterday on his radio show Jury, Wayne
Speaker 3: Jones Hall of Fame owner, let.
Speaker 5: Us in government know that, Wayne Jerald, You, Mazzie Smith
Speaker 5: and Jaydon Blue, don't don't look for on Sunday.
Speaker 4: They got the t's in the locker again.
Speaker 2: Scratch, healthy scratch.
Speaker 6: You know you walk in there. You is it my weekend?
Speaker 3: You be like so remember last year when when Dalvin
Speaker 3: Cook would find out on Jerry's radio show.
Speaker 7: Hold on what yeah, hold on, hold on relived this story.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So so last year Dalvin Cook when he got signed
Speaker 3: and here gonna play, gonna play, and they asked Jerry, hey,
Speaker 3: what about Dalvoca.
Speaker 4: I don't think we'll seeing this week. So he would
Speaker 4: just saying, God, no, what we got.
Speaker 3: And so then Dalvin like, yeah, I get your good
Speaker 3: locker room right now, the locker room after hey, man,
Speaker 3: you know you playing.
Speaker 4: That's not.
Speaker 6: Out there.
Speaker 3: And then it got to be appointment setting or Dalvin
Speaker 3: and these people would listen, right, I'm in this.
Speaker 8: Week, not the head coach, not not.
Speaker 7: That's that's almost as bad as me finding out I
Speaker 7: got cut through the media.
Speaker 3: Would listen, Hey thirty on Tuesday, don't worry about Sunday.
Speaker 7: He said, Man, not this week, guy, I don't need
Speaker 7: to buy no extra don't worry about this game.
Speaker 3: And so Davin was on the practice squad, so you know,
Speaker 3: my man was down.
Speaker 7: You know, Buty was listening to that radio show like
Speaker 7: the stock Market soon as as soon.
Speaker 3: As it and it's people too, so people were listening
Speaker 3: to So that's the thing, just you, everybody and everybody,
Speaker 3: all you people out there, he said.
Speaker 6: He can't like them.
Speaker 7: Oh man, you know I got hurt this week. They're
Speaker 7: trying to get a young guy.
Speaker 8: We heard I'm just my thing is not not the
Speaker 8: head coach. The head coach ain't told him he was down.
Speaker 8: Not not even if the head coach wanted to use
Speaker 8: not the position coach with.
Speaker 6: The guy from the up He just ain't playing it.
Speaker 4: Shot. He was asked about it today.
Speaker 6: It is pressing him upstairs.
Speaker 4: Michelle, is mass he playing this week or Jerry? He said, no, no.
Speaker 3: We have opportunity for three great practices, so he'll he'll compete.
Speaker 2: Get out there.
Speaker 9: How are you supposed to go out there and say,
Speaker 9: you know what, I'm a grind, I'm gonna have a shot.
Speaker 4: But you know, on Tuesday and Wednesday.
Speaker 7: That'd be the worst thing because at the beginning of
Speaker 7: the season, you're like, yo, it's cool, I'm gonna wait
Speaker 7: my time, I'm there.
Speaker 6: I'm being patient. About week six or seven, you start
Speaker 6: hearing stuff like that, you be like.
Speaker 2: Bump, but you know, make your bed.
Speaker 4: You got make your bed.
Speaker 6: Shot.
Speaker 3: He didn't talk about, you know, possible injuries and things
Speaker 3: like that, and he said, you know, he said, you know,
Speaker 3: we've set nothing. You know, nothing's been set. He'll have
Speaker 3: the opportunity to compete. But the owner and gentleman, boy.
Speaker 7: You ain't feeling the big dog said it upstairs.
Speaker 6: It ain't hey, it ain't barking.
Speaker 4: He was a good thing. Okay. So if you blue.
Speaker 3: To buy no extra tickets this week, whole des ice,
Speaker 3: that's diabolically.
Speaker 6: You that vet that walks in there. There's one vet
Speaker 6: in every week.
Speaker 7: There something going on, a young guy mad about not
Speaker 7: playing something, something bad happen and you'd be like, oh,
Speaker 7: you're good over there, young bull.
Speaker 6: Hey, look at it this way.
Speaker 7: Man, at least at least you healthier for next year
Speaker 7: going in the free agency or something like that.
Speaker 6: You be like, what that was?
Speaker 5: Scandar, boy, man ain't got no pass this week?
Speaker 7: You might want to tell you just start calling he.
Speaker 2: Ain't no real Santa Claus.
Speaker 3: Blue played the Texas so you know your people might
Speaker 3: be hey, man, were coming up this week. I mean,
Speaker 3: at least you know, you know, save yourself. Man, say
Speaker 3: you know you got just you told you all told
Speaker 3: story the tickets yesterday.
Speaker 6: You did what would be worse? Then?
Speaker 3: You know your people, hey man, it's a home opening.
Speaker 3: We want to come up here. You out here, but
Speaker 3: then you you you're gonna be real slo and a
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Speaker 6: Y'all want y'all want to see you.
Speaker 4: The custom blue jersey.
Speaker 6: Messed up, Bro, You got to start with that.
Speaker 9: The custom blue man you see up on the club
Speaker 9: seats because you know the family don't sit down here
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Speaker 3: They gonna bring this out next month, but they gave
Speaker 3: it to us today. Get you ready got time?
Speaker 6: Dirty?
Speaker 7: I told y'all that's dirty, Mac Church. Yeah, if you blue,
Speaker 7: you you got time. It's not even that you got time.
Speaker 7: They saving the weapon you drafted here like you said,
Speaker 7: you got that time. But it's like, hey, we're giving
Speaker 7: them a shot because they're on their way out the door.
Speaker 7: The other guys like what they what they used to
Speaker 7: tell you. We've all been hearing it since we was little,
Speaker 7: even in the Little league. The moment the coach stops
Speaker 7: talking to you, that's when you gotta be worried. That
Speaker 7: was that where he signed where he said, oh, you
Speaker 7: ain't got to worry about him, especially with how well
Speaker 7: the like. And this is once again apples and apples,
Speaker 7: oranges and oranges. As much as they make this joke.
Speaker 7: He had time to produce, But then what you having
Speaker 7: time to produce? It sucks when they go trade somebody
Speaker 7: or bring in somebody and he performs that last week,
Speaker 7: that interior, the way that they performed this is the
Speaker 7: one you would think Kenny was the missing factor that
Speaker 7: they've been talking about this whole time. So that was
Speaker 7: the coffin, get up out.
Speaker 10: Of here against Philly. And then you got a sixth rounder. Yeah,
Speaker 10: a rookie playing in there, a six round. This ain't
Speaker 10: a veteran. This ain't a first round pick in Solomon.
Speaker 10: This is a rookie, six round pick.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 3: Now Shoty also said he said that Mazzi is a
Speaker 3: good football player, but he has to be consistent. Sot
Speaker 3: here telling you right now, hey man, I'm not seeing
Speaker 3: it enough.
Speaker 4: I've got to see more of it.
Speaker 3: So if you want to grab a jersey, you're gonna
Speaker 3: have to get more consistent one.
Speaker 4: And so he laid it out there.
Speaker 7: I mean, but with him saying that though like that,
Speaker 7: lets you know there's different dynamics in the organization. What
Speaker 7: you said, that's above my pay grade. Your head coaches
Speaker 7: don't have to speak highly about you like we've seen
Speaker 7: head coaches that throw you out in the Wolves. We've
Speaker 7: seen coaches when they come in and they.
Speaker 6: Are guys that are already there.
Speaker 7: So from those statements, it tells me like, yo, you
Speaker 7: know how you got that one coach that come in
Speaker 7: there and be like, hey, you better type. No, you
Speaker 7: gotta do this right, Like I'm not saying this is
Speaker 7: gonna save you, but this will help you laying softer,
Speaker 7: if that's what you if that makes sense, And so
Speaker 7: I feel like that's what Shoddy is doing right now,
Speaker 7: because one, this is a long season. Just to sit
Speaker 7: here and say you ain't gonna see him this week,
Speaker 7: we might not know. You've got a vet that's been hurt,
Speaker 7: you got all kinds of things. And if you come
Speaker 7: in there and strike when it's time to strike, you
Speaker 7: might say not save your job, but you might build
Speaker 7: more value going somewhere else. Somebody might say that this
Speaker 7: was my system. So I hope he's listening to Shoddy,
Speaker 7: And it sounds like Shoty's gonna give him opportunity if
Speaker 7: it presents itself.
Speaker 8: On the flip side of that without him getting those reps,
Speaker 8: and if get backups or the replacements keep stacking, great
Speaker 8: days and stacking good days. You know, it's oh no,
Speaker 8: it's a what is a let's be hold on, let's
Speaker 8: be crystal clear, it's a wrap. We I think we
Speaker 8: all can agree for Mazi at most ninety five percent,
Speaker 8: it's a rap.
Speaker 3: Here's where I'll just fight you on this a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we had sixteen games ago. You don't know the attrition
Speaker 3: rate of what's going to happen. So so so we'll
Speaker 3: see if somebody get a high ankle spring, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of things that could happen. So I think with Shoddy,
Speaker 3: when what Shoddy said to the media about getting consistent
Speaker 3: and so like, hey man, at some point in time,
Speaker 3: we may need you guys all play exactly. These rosters
Speaker 3: get used up and when you try to play, and
Speaker 3: we've looked at the schedule, Cowboy's gonna face some good team,
Speaker 3: you know, even the Giants.
Speaker 4: So they're not a good team over they got a good.
Speaker 3: Defensive line and you know, you mess around next you know,
Speaker 3: you can be in a full quarter game. So so
Speaker 3: we don't know. So I want to say it's a
Speaker 3: rap for Mazi is not looking good.
Speaker 7: It's not looking good, but you got to build his
Speaker 7: own value. That's the I guess that was what I
Speaker 7: was trying to allude That is, build your value with
Speaker 7: that building that consist and see and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: Even for my tenure when I got cut.
Speaker 7: Here, right after I left here, it was people that
Speaker 7: was able to speak on my characters, speak on his
Speaker 7: work at it to where you're gonna have somebody in
Speaker 7: the building that will stand up for you and your
Speaker 7: first round pick.
Speaker 6: You're gonna get an opportunity.
Speaker 7: But when you get that next opportunity you want to have,
Speaker 7: you want to you wanted to be a fifty to
Speaker 7: fifty ball when you going there and say it was
Speaker 7: a schematic approach versus you going in there and everybody saying, man,
Speaker 7: that guy isn't there and we're just giving it to
Speaker 7: you for the first round.
Speaker 6: So that consistency means a lot.
Speaker 10: Think what the boys is doing to him right now,
Speaker 10: Like brost Run, Yeah, you're a first round pick and
Speaker 10: you ain't getting no burn. You got jerseys in your
Speaker 10: locker on Sundays man.
Speaker 9: Like, and it's not like you're getting replaced by all pros.
Speaker 9: And now there's one pro bowler in there and that's
Speaker 9: and that's Kenny Clark.
Speaker 4: Other than that, you got got a.
Speaker 10: Big pay got a big pay down, and he's gonna
Speaker 10: be a little fast starter. But then after that you
Speaker 10: got Salomon Thomas, former first rounder for the bounce a
Speaker 10: little bit, and then you got a six round in
Speaker 10: front of you. And then you got your owner talking
Speaker 10: about now we ain't gona see him this week?
Speaker 9: How do you how you go into practice like man,
Speaker 9: I go just my opportunity.
Speaker 7: What he said, this right here, he's right here, this
Speaker 7: right here, because me I went in there and found
Speaker 7: an enemy. I don't care. You know what, cool I
Speaker 7: ain't playing this weekend. Whoever I lined up against, boy
Speaker 7: is about to be h double hockey sticks. You about
Speaker 7: to get every frustration. If the owner said this about me,
Speaker 7: I'm about to have the water boy moment. Tyron Smith
Speaker 7: lined it up. You gotta come in head too, since
Speaker 7: he hasn't done it, but they haven't seen it. But
Speaker 7: that's what I'm saying this is you're not playing on
Speaker 7: the weekend.
Speaker 6: You know that.
Speaker 7: So if if I'm you, well, if I'm a vet
Speaker 7: that actually cares about him and that's his friend, I'm
Speaker 7: gonna tell you go out here and practice like an
Speaker 7: undrafted free agent. You don't practice like a first round pick.
Speaker 7: You haven't you earned a right to be a first
Speaker 7: round pick. Guess what, you haven't played like that. So
Speaker 7: now you got to have an undrafted mentality. Whereas and
Speaker 7: you know that tempo violator that always go that's what
Speaker 7: he means right now to where somebody speaks on him.
Speaker 8: We all notice, you know, of course, being former athletes
Speaker 8: and everything else like that, there's we do have something
Speaker 8: that's a little bit different to us as far as
Speaker 8: we're focus and things like that. And so with Mazie,
Speaker 8: you know, like like like I've been saying, you know,
Speaker 8: ever since I got in here, I'm gonna be optimistic
Speaker 8: about the player and hope that at some point in time,
Speaker 8: either the the the the the the example that's being
Speaker 8: set by Kenny Clark is here now, or or just
Speaker 8: a simple fact that like, hey, I'm gonna make up
Speaker 8: my mind to play.
Speaker 4: That's always this from four four three or four.
Speaker 8: Right man, and everybody get like so in my mind,
Speaker 8: the way I've always looked at it, the way I
Speaker 8: was always taught about it, like three years, this is
Speaker 8: third year, this is.
Speaker 3: Third different third different defensive coordinators you know from you
Speaker 3: go from having d Q, you had Zimmer last year.
Speaker 3: Now you got flues and you know they're not clearly
Speaker 3: they're not gonna pick up as fifth or option now.
Speaker 3: So so as year three, we got to see something
Speaker 3: from from Mazzie.
Speaker 4: You haven't seen it yet. It's it's not.
Speaker 7: Over, but boy, not over you She humming that that lady,
Speaker 7: she said, she said, hey, what is it act too?
Speaker 6: Okay, bet the closers about.
Speaker 4: To see the end of the road. End of the
Speaker 4: road for you, you can see it. So have y'all
Speaker 4: seen any like like in the lash?
Speaker 6: But that's what I'm saying, we don't know.
Speaker 7: We're not there watching the practice film there in the game,
Speaker 7: you haven't known. But how are you gonna That's the thing, though,
Speaker 7: we're past the point of where you're going to see
Speaker 7: flashes right now in the game. He is at the
Speaker 7: end where everything he does in practice needs to be
Speaker 7: a flash.
Speaker 6: In practice you need to have two flash places a day.
Speaker 7: And even then your coaches, your coach is still gonna
Speaker 7: sit there and be like, man, you still ain't gave
Speaker 7: it to us. That's that consistency that's building it up.
Speaker 7: When you, like I said, Bro, you just gotta have
Speaker 7: a dog mentality. Bro, you just gotta go fight like
Speaker 7: you gotta have an victor's mindset to say I'm ready like.
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Speaker 3: at the former number one overall pick in the draft,
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Speaker 3: out of that draft was Khalil Mack because Khalil had
Speaker 3: come from the University of Buffalo, so a lot of
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Speaker 4: Down on trad Mack.
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Speaker 4: Like, oh, Mac better football player.
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Speaker 3: beginning as they try to potentially add to their defensive
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Speaker 7: Oh man, you're getting an athletic specimen. I guess for me,
Speaker 7: just keeping it a buck all the way funky are you?
Speaker 7: My question is are you getting that vet at the
Speaker 7: end of their career that is still trying to establish
Speaker 7: theirselfs and they actually love being a competitor, which we
Speaker 7: haven't seen. The knock on him is always it's been
Speaker 7: that competitive factor. How hard does he play? Is he
Speaker 7: chasing the ball down backside and this and that? And
Speaker 7: when you think of Jerry Jones when he wants to
Speaker 7: bring in these d linemen and stuff, what does he
Speaker 7: always say, I need a war daddy, I need somebody
Speaker 7: that has that workhorse mentality. And so for me as
Speaker 7: a player, knowing what I know, it makes me question
Speaker 7: it a little bit like, obviously we need edge pressure,
Speaker 7: you need those type of guys right there. But you
Speaker 7: got that in Dante Fowler, somebody that was a double
Speaker 7: digit sack that's sitting right there. And then you're bringing
Speaker 7: in a guy that hasn't really been the guy, but
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Speaker 7: So it's like, Okay, our interior. They've gotten a lot
Speaker 7: better with Kenny Clark. You got Osa in there. Are
Speaker 7: they going to be good enough to give Clowney that
Speaker 7: extra boost to where he can have those flash plays?
Speaker 7: And right now, for me, being a Dallas fan, I
Speaker 7: would want somebody that's a little more consistent.
Speaker 6: But like you said, we're.
Speaker 7: Good will shopping right now, you're going through the bag,
Speaker 7: so it doesn't hurt to turn over the time.
Speaker 3: But there's no war Daddy available September tenth. Now it's
Speaker 3: a veteran who can you can add to the room.
Speaker 3: But there's there's no war.
Speaker 6: Daddy, No, no you can. There isn't.
Speaker 7: But there are those guys that you pick up out
Speaker 7: the couch where they're hungry. They can come in and
Speaker 7: pay give you twenty five thirty five snaps, and we're
Speaker 7: not we're talking about quality snaps where you're chasing down
Speaker 7: the ball like we don't. You're not expecting Clowney to
Speaker 7: be Michael Parsons that, But do you have somebody that
Speaker 7: is going to have that engulf that eber Fluce mindset
Speaker 7: of chasing the ball down? So, like you said, he
Speaker 7: has familiarity with Shoddy and playing with him in Seattle,
Speaker 7: but he hasn't played in at least in my opinion yet,
Speaker 7: he hasn't played with a defensive coordinator that demands that
Speaker 7: type of chase the ball mentality, and that's that hasn't
Speaker 7: been his game this whole, like his whole career.
Speaker 10: You played with him, So when when y'all played, would
Speaker 10: you consider him, you know, being doing a lot of
Speaker 10: hero ball And what I mean my hero ball is
Speaker 10: I'm gonna go make this play like I don't care
Speaker 10: what the skis assignment, what if the assignment is, I
Speaker 10: got contained, but I can make it if I go inside,
Speaker 10: like is he one of them cats?
Speaker 4: Or you can see him playing within the scene.
Speaker 6: So I didn't play with him.
Speaker 7: We played, We kept missing each other, and I played
Speaker 7: with people that played on him. Okay, but the knock
Speaker 7: that was the knock on him. It wasn't he played.
Speaker 7: He played hero ball. But you know how it is
Speaker 7: when y'all play hero ball, the guy that's gonna make
Speaker 7: the play, But then you got the guy that's trying
Speaker 7: to make the play. But even if he doesn't make
Speaker 7: out the play, he's gonna do the racer and go
Speaker 7: chase the ball down for him, it's always been the Hey,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go in there and I'm just gonna rely
Speaker 7: off my athletic ability and that natural athleticism to where
Speaker 7: you make one or two big flat flash plays a game.
Speaker 7: It's like, oh, snap, he's been doing this and doing that.
Speaker 7: And don't get me wrong, he has all the ability
Speaker 7: to chase it down when he wants to.
Speaker 6: And that's the big thing.
Speaker 7: Right now, do you want somebody that is a when
Speaker 7: you want to guy or if you're gonna get it?
Speaker 7: And so that would be my question. I'm not saying
Speaker 7: he still has had that mentality, but over his career,
Speaker 7: even when he came out, it was always a potential thing.
Speaker 7: Oh if you get him to do this, if he
Speaker 7: lives up to do this, and then he shows you
Speaker 7: those flashes enough to bring you in there, and on
Speaker 7: top of that, you having that first round credibility.
Speaker 3: So let's just go ahead and say he's been a
Speaker 3: disappointing overall pick number one overall. Pick you expected more,
Speaker 3: especially when I look at Khalil Mack.
Speaker 15: Yes, I mean, yeah, yeah, you can't do that though,
Speaker 15: I mean he's he's When I look at him, I
Speaker 15: just say, you know what, He's a good player, but
Speaker 15: as a number one overall pick, underwhelming.
Speaker 6: To me, definitely underwhelming.
Speaker 7: But as much as I'm on him like that, I'm
Speaker 7: also played doubles advocate and say, just like I told
Speaker 7: you all with Trey Lance everybody else that I've always
Speaker 7: said new Scenery prime example, Solomon Thomas, former first round
Speaker 7: pick that people said was underwhelming, this and that, and
Speaker 7: now he's over here a Dallas. I'm not saying he's
Speaker 7: the playmaker and this and that, but he's starting to
Speaker 7: build value again within itself.
Speaker 3: And so for me, when I go back and when
Speaker 3: I think over on the Miles Garrett, when you take
Speaker 3: a guy like that, that's what you're This is what
Speaker 3: you are hoping and wanting.
Speaker 4: Conny never did that.
Speaker 3: I mean, when he retires, Houston is not hanging his jersey.
Speaker 4: They're not hanging that jersey out there. It's not like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's it's when you draft a
Speaker 3: Tony dor Set you know, boom, Look he did Super
Speaker 3: Bowl Champion. You know, I think Tony was number two
Speaker 3: in the league when he retired as a rusher. I
Speaker 3: mean just when you yeah, when you okay, this is
Speaker 3: what you're expecting when you're thinking when you up here
Speaker 3: like that, it's supposed to be a guy who changes
Speaker 3: the franchise, like man boy, look look at what all
Speaker 3: this guy did the generational players work around.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're expect you know, your your hope is.
Speaker 15: At least one day, but that was thrown out when
Speaker 15: he came when when I mean you.
Speaker 3: Think about the short the Texans have a short history.
Speaker 4: He's not even gonna get there. And I retired his
Speaker 4: jersey up there.
Speaker 3: Nice player, but but you know that, that's what I
Speaker 3: said with I think number one of what you're expecting here,
Speaker 3: he didn't have that kind of career, but had the
Speaker 3: type of talent.
Speaker 6: And that's the thing.
Speaker 7: Does he still have enough talent in the tank to
Speaker 7: channel it to say, hey, you know these knocks.
Speaker 4: Everybody as a backup like you yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but that but that's no problem.
Speaker 7: Like if you go in here be a backup right now,
Speaker 7: say he go get five or six sacks based off
Speaker 7: of his resume alone, somebody's going to overpay him. The
Speaker 7: market is too high, Like DLAG got paid.
Speaker 3: Like crazy money leads September ten, I mean perst September ten,
Speaker 3: So how much money do people have anyway.
Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, I'm talking about for if he chooses
Speaker 7: playing next year or whatever. I can tell you like this,
Speaker 7: the one thing that I do know that motivates Clowney
Speaker 7: is money and the perks that come with it. Right now,
Speaker 7: and that's what leads it optimistic is that you're coming
Speaker 7: to play for America's team. They don't have a pass
Speaker 7: rusher like for him. This is where you can get
Speaker 7: that perk and get a little bit of extra money
Speaker 7: to ride off into the sunset, and that might give
Speaker 7: him them right motivation, I think.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 8: Like and then like you guys mentioned him coming here
Speaker 8: as a backup role or being a role player more
Speaker 8: so than anything. The thing about Clowney is not just
Speaker 8: a pass rush, but it's that he can set an edge,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. So, like, with that being said,
Speaker 8: if the role lets ask of him, it's a little
Speaker 8: bit different than what he's maybe been required in the
Speaker 8: past years and the different teams. And we just need
Speaker 8: you to come over here and be this guy. And
Speaker 8: don't you know, I don't need all that. I feel
Speaker 8: we need edge. We need somebody who's going to show up.
Speaker 8: This one side of this line and hopefully you bringing
Speaker 8: a guy like that, then the other side will take
Speaker 8: a look at it and to see what's going on
Speaker 8: with it too as well.
Speaker 6: But that's been his role his whole career.
Speaker 7: Like people gave him and they said, oh he can
Speaker 7: pass rush because he ran a four or five and
Speaker 7: he was big, But people always said that he played.
Speaker 6: The run style. He was their style.
Speaker 7: So like the run thing has been his thing when
Speaker 7: he wants to right and right now. That's the only
Speaker 7: reason that makes me question it a little bit, is
Speaker 7: like that edge, who like, are you bringing him in
Speaker 7: here to set the edge as a past I mean
Speaker 7: as a run stopper or as a pass rusher. And
Speaker 7: if you're doing it as a run stopper, that means
Speaker 7: you're a one to first down and secondary. You're not
Speaker 7: a backup guy. That backup guy is the Dante Fowler
Speaker 7: with the ten.
Speaker 4: Does he plays special teams if he gets here?
Speaker 6: No? No, no, he doesn't. He doesn't.
Speaker 7: He doesn't want to an That's another that's another spot,
Speaker 7: like when you we talked about it before, like when
Speaker 7: you humble yourself, like and I I can talk about
Speaker 7: Solomon because I played with him, I seen him and
Speaker 7: I seen it from the outside looking in. Solomon is
Speaker 7: a guy that's gonna go play special teams right now
Speaker 7: and will not think.
Speaker 6: Twice about it.
Speaker 7: With those other guys that haven't had to play special
Speaker 7: teams their whole career, and you're telling them at the
Speaker 7: very last minute, you're a backup and do this, They're.
Speaker 6: Like a coach.
Speaker 7: I gotta straight, Oh, I gotta get in the hot tub. Okay, Vet,
Speaker 7: we don't want to mess you up because this and
Speaker 7: that and you can weasle your way out of it.
Speaker 6: And that's just that hasn't been his role.
Speaker 10: And it's hurt a guy like Sam Williams with his
Speaker 10: with his development.
Speaker 4: No, okay, shot, he.
Speaker 3: Said no, and he said he felt that, you know,
Speaker 3: adding a veteran could help. And and I go back
Speaker 3: to what we talked about earlier with even Mozie Smith.
Speaker 3: A lot of games to go a lot and this
Speaker 3: schedule is filled with some tough teams, so.
Speaker 7: It can it can help his development if you're being
Speaker 7: completely honest, like I said, you know how it is
Speaker 7: when you got those good vests that come in, they.
Speaker 6: Give you the tools of the trade.
Speaker 8: So if you got any past rush moves or anything
Speaker 8: else like that. You know what I'm saying that that
Speaker 8: can always filter through everybody.
Speaker 4: Do they sign into the actor exactly? Look they what
Speaker 4: they did with Dalvin Cook last year.
Speaker 6: We signed.
Speaker 4: So so you know, do you how bad?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 4: How bad? Do you want to want a check?
Speaker 6: How bad? How bad?
Speaker 7: Does he want to check us? The question because just
Speaker 7: because they offer practice squad, he doesn't. Don't like you're
Speaker 7: telling the former first round pick, a guy that has
Speaker 7: been making millions since he touched into the league, to say, hey,
Speaker 7: you're going to take a drastic pay cut and you
Speaker 7: have to be a practice school guy, running scout team,
Speaker 7: doing all that and helping the other guys get better
Speaker 7: with the potential of not playing.
Speaker 8: And he's purposely over the past I like, these past
Speaker 8: five seasons, purposely not going to camp.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so that's what it's like. You think, do you
Speaker 7: think he's going to be humble enough? And some guys
Speaker 7: are They play the humble role to where they can
Speaker 7: get in there and they say, I just got a
Speaker 7: foot in the door, let me do this. And then
Speaker 7: once you get into the door, what type of vetter
Speaker 7: you're going to be in that locker room? Are you
Speaker 7: going to be somebody that could blend and meshwell, or
Speaker 7: are you going to be the vet that gets there
Speaker 7: and say, hey, I'm coming to take somebody job in
Speaker 7: about two or three weeks, and two or three weeks
Speaker 7: go by it and you don't do it, and now
Speaker 7: you become a cancer.
Speaker 6: In the locker room.
Speaker 7: These are all factors that you take in the play
Speaker 7: when you bring it in a vet.
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Speaker 4: Hey, who haven't I over there?
Speaker 2: Over here? You looking at it new like you better?
Speaker 6: Miss I was. I'm just listening, you know. It was cool?
Speaker 7: Like I said, I like, I just want to know,
Speaker 7: like was it? Because I added the colorfulness there that
Speaker 7: your ho yo hope or what it was. But you know,
Speaker 7: I'm just I mean, I'm sorry. I'm a football player.
Speaker 7: You know you gotta study greatness is the reason why
Speaker 7: here multiple women. So that's why I'm like, let me see,
Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, while I'm studying film, you
Speaker 7: know that one player, one player walked by. Why is
Speaker 7: he studying film?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 4: This is how it is.
Speaker 3: On the yard like ohes looking at them dogs.
Speaker 2: It's good.
Speaker 4: I'm used to it. Thirty five years. I'm used to Hey,
Speaker 4: I've been I've been doing it again.
Speaker 7: Like you said after I did such an amazing read
Speaker 7: the last time I was here. You know, they say
Speaker 7: imitation is the best form of flattery. So you know
Speaker 7: the original.
Speaker 4: First, let's know who's imitating you?
Speaker 7: Are you are? Who's the first? Who's the first? Who's
Speaker 7: the original?
Speaker 9: Frat visibly over here? He got to live in the past. See,
Speaker 9: that's what they do. They go back to your path
Speaker 9: to try to brudh.
Speaker 6: The damn elevated.
Speaker 4: Garret took out the rotation after.
Speaker 6: That, Hey, I'm elevating.
Speaker 3: Back to the players, church trade more Anthonys sad do
Speaker 3: its so? Jay Jalen Carter, the Eagles was not suspended
Speaker 3: by the league.
Speaker 4: League basically said, since you didn't play in the game,
Speaker 4: we're not going to set suspended. And so they already
Speaker 4: did it.
Speaker 3: They were like, hey man, you already did it, so
Speaker 3: you didn't play, so there's your suspension. But they did
Speaker 3: basically take a game check. Took the game check in
Speaker 3: fifty seven thousand game check. So didn't play, no money.
Speaker 3: So you you just went out Thursday night like me.
Speaker 3: You ain't getting none out of nothing nothing that team.
Speaker 6: Hey, it costs to beat the boss.
Speaker 7: The way his mindset is, I'm pretty sure he didn't
Speaker 7: I care, But looking back at it, he gonna think
Speaker 7: about that.
Speaker 4: One because that was the fifty sixty g.
Speaker 6: I've been here hit with one of those before. It'll
Speaker 6: hurts you the whole jack.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that Rams game when we got suspended, when the
Speaker 7: O'Dell had the big bra and all that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 7: we got kicked out the game. And hey, you had
Speaker 7: to take that boy, you thought it was Easter of
Speaker 7: Dimmer Sunday. The way I took that collection pay you
Speaker 7: want to donate, that was sending my team.
Speaker 4: They were that whole thing went down that whole thing.
Speaker 6: Went down that Nah, it was halftime. It was half time.
Speaker 6: Wasn't end the game, but it was half time.
Speaker 4: The whole squad was involved.
Speaker 7: Like yeah, when they started fighting on the sideline, the
Speaker 7: rams Flayers came over there to help Alex Ogertry because
Speaker 7: that's who originally started with. Oh, and then Preston Parker
Speaker 7: jumped in. So now that they're on our sideline. Me
Speaker 7: being the original y n that I am, I said,
Speaker 7: forget the helmet, go over there, I get somebody. I
Speaker 7: got them into the new everybody is a full on
Speaker 7: bra and the rest couldn't. They only had certain people
Speaker 7: that they could pick out. It's my big self with
Speaker 7: red dress who had the red dreds on. Because they
Speaker 7: called out another nig. They called out numbers. Bro, they
Speaker 7: called out the wrong number and the rest said, no, no, no,
Speaker 7: it's not him. It's the one with the red dreds.
Speaker 7: It got my number, and I said, went to the
Speaker 7: locker room. I thought I made it.
Speaker 6: I was good a whole whole game.
Speaker 4: Check.
Speaker 7: So yeah, what they say stupidity is expensive. What they
Speaker 7: say ignorance youngness. So you passed a hat man, I
Speaker 7: passed it. Well, actually my pride didn't allow me to
Speaker 7: pass it. The great guy Eli Manning and Intro Rose,
Speaker 7: they said, hey, Andi and Treil said, we're gonna do it.
Speaker 7: You were protecting your teammate. Eli was like, yeah, we're
Speaker 7: gonna back them up. They put you know, their money
Speaker 7: in there. Five hundred and here, a thousand and there,
Speaker 7: thousand and there, still didn't get nowhere close near to
Speaker 7: my whole check back.
Speaker 8: Hey, yo, And for everybody getting involved in the fine,
Speaker 8: you know you don't, you don't. There's no time to
Speaker 8: negotiate and nothing, none of that. If you're still gonna
Speaker 8: have some money in your check, it's gonna come deducted already.
Speaker 2: All right. Now, you can try to appear.
Speaker 8: Level later on and you might get it back. You
Speaker 8: might get some of it back. But before you got
Speaker 8: anything to say about it that it's.
Speaker 7: On, before they put the check in there, they say,
Speaker 7: give me this right here, you go over there. Let
Speaker 7: me let me tell you what happened. I was so imposed,
Speaker 7: I messed up. Let me just hey, sir, can I
Speaker 7: please have that back?
Speaker 3: So if you're supposed to get a ten dollars check,
Speaker 3: you just show up, you get your check.
Speaker 4: And it said three fifty.
Speaker 6: They taking and they taking it. They taking it what
Speaker 6: they say.
Speaker 8: They had just a bunch of stars on it before
Speaker 8: that's they put all the stars on.
Speaker 2: That much you owe us.
Speaker 7: Let me let me shut your hand because this guy's
Speaker 7: like you that put it in the new CBA to
Speaker 7: why they say they.
Speaker 6: Can only take so much out of your check?
Speaker 7: They hit they what he said, they hit my check
Speaker 7: so so bad one day that after the first three
Speaker 7: weeks I didn't see a normal check again.
Speaker 6: They was like, oh, they would have took more out.
Speaker 6: They could have bro just.
Speaker 4: People you for three Pauls. They hit for three weeks,
Speaker 4: all different.
Speaker 6: When I when when? When you?
Speaker 7: When I got that big boy for that fight. That's
Speaker 7: why I said, for him to get that one right there,
Speaker 7: that at fifty seven, and that's the beginning of the year.
Speaker 7: They usually don't even jump up to them fifty and
Speaker 7: those numbers like that into the middle of the year.
Speaker 7: So for him to do that, he said, that was
Speaker 7: the most expensive hot tour he ever did in his life.
Speaker 6: You better stop that.
Speaker 10: How much you think it would be if you were
Speaker 10: the wrong socks, like if you were instead of wars
Speaker 10: out out thousand, five thousand, or your socks wasn't.
Speaker 2: At the right or your talk or your tow would
Speaker 2: be too long.
Speaker 6: How it was too long?
Speaker 2: I tested short and not test the official like this.
Speaker 8: That was fifteen to five, just like this then hitting
Speaker 8: just we was both in the zone testing like that
Speaker 8: eighteen five.
Speaker 7: You better and you better hope that you got a
Speaker 7: good official. That's like, you know how they do when
Speaker 7: you're coming out there, you wear your pre game stuff.
Speaker 7: They warned you most of them will go over there
Speaker 7: and be like, hey, I like you, come on, don't
Speaker 7: do that. My boy on the staff he trying to
Speaker 7: get you. Those guys though, those refs like, I'm gonna
Speaker 7: tell you like this, Jalen did not make no fans
Speaker 7: by spitting on the deck like that Smerica team. As
Speaker 7: a quarterback, you've become the bad guy, asking Domicasu. He
Speaker 7: said he got fined so many times that he was like, bruh,
Speaker 7: I didn't even do it. So now people are gonna
Speaker 7: purposely look for you, and those refs that are normally
Speaker 7: nice are the ones that are gunning for you. They
Speaker 7: ain't gonna tell you, They're just gonna sit back over there.
Speaker 7: Oh your shirt on took that five racks. Hey shoes
Speaker 7: undertied him by the end of the by the game
Speaker 7: even start. If they're nice enough to go tell your coaches. Yeah,
Speaker 7: the equipment guy come over and say, you got twenty
Speaker 7: thousand in fines right now? Do you want to fix
Speaker 7: it or not? And it's up to the player to
Speaker 7: say yes or no. Hopefully they do that. If they don't,
Speaker 7: guess what, at the end of the game, that FedEx
Speaker 7: will be on there that next morning.
Speaker 8: You know that you had the fashion police at every game, right, Yeah,
Speaker 8: they jomp.
Speaker 6: Look that's Merton.
Speaker 4: Hank's one of those Guysmon Hanks.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he'll get it for the Cowboy you know, Like
Speaker 8: I know heill was doing it because him and my
Speaker 8: dad hang out still, and so he'll be at me
Speaker 8: all the time like, yeah, you know, I'm the fashion
Speaker 8: police for the Cowboys, for y'all, for y'all former player.
Speaker 8: He always trying to take a light on you. But
Speaker 8: you got some dudes who ain't never been a former player.
Speaker 8: And just like Trey said, hey.
Speaker 7: You right right now, and for y'all out there that's listening,
Speaker 7: the fashion police.
Speaker 6: Is a guy.
Speaker 7: You know how you got to get back guy that
Speaker 7: pulled the head coaches, the fashion police is his job
Speaker 7: to purposely go out there and save the player's money.
Speaker 7: Fix this, fix that before the game. And they do
Speaker 7: that like that is just sole purpose in the whole thing.
Speaker 3: After the game. You can get fined too if you
Speaker 3: wear the wrong types of things. So if you wear
Speaker 3: you wear a Major League Baseball hat at.
Speaker 6: Your backcraft any other logo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or if you wore Burry Church dot com.
Speaker 9: Can't shout out nothing, you don't do nothing that can't
Speaker 9: be bigger than that badge, can't.
Speaker 6: Be bigger than this shield.
Speaker 7: Protect the shield, Get put money back, go back to
Speaker 7: though for you do you really think like because you
Speaker 7: you've been you, who is who is some iconic back
Speaker 7: bad boys y'all seen in the league around your time?
Speaker 7: Sue was super the most icon and I actually played
Speaker 7: with Sue and so I.
Speaker 2: Played with Romanowski.
Speaker 8: I played the most notorious bad boys in the league,
Speaker 8: you know, Bill, So.
Speaker 4: Pac Man was around my time to pac Man.
Speaker 7: So now with y'all thinking about all these different guys,
Speaker 7: we all know some of those guys did not care
Speaker 7: when these things happened. Y'all think that Jalen Carter has
Speaker 7: the mindset of these other guys to where he cares
Speaker 7: or he's like, yo, well Dak spit her at me,
Speaker 7: and he's gonna like, you know, some guys live on
Speaker 7: that sword, and well he spit on he spited towards
Speaker 7: my foot. So yeah, I took it. Yeah, I did
Speaker 7: what I did, and I'm gonna stand on it. You
Speaker 7: think he got you think he got by his remorse
Speaker 7: right now?
Speaker 8: Yeah, it don't matter. Like if you're a young player,
Speaker 8: you know, like unless.
Speaker 6: The first round young player, but Pro.
Speaker 8: Bowl, unless you come from money, you ain't used to money. Yeah,
Speaker 8: so somebody takes sixty grand from you, it's you gonna
Speaker 8: feel it.
Speaker 2: Period.
Speaker 4: You're the best defensive player and they had no sax
Speaker 4: in the game.
Speaker 7: But in your prime, but in your prime and the
Speaker 7: peak of your career, when you had your back and
Speaker 7: you thought you was untouchable, like you didn't just say it,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna make it up. I just gotta go get
Speaker 7: five or six sacks, like because I know some guys
Speaker 7: that be like, don't get me wrong, it sucks that
Speaker 7: they got found that much. But they went out there
Speaker 7: that next game and tore it up to where it
Speaker 7: was like they had two or three sacks in one game,
Speaker 7: and it was like, like, I'll never forget when David
Speaker 7: Irvin got suspended and he was in trouble.
Speaker 6: The first game he came back, he said.
Speaker 7: I'm showing Green Bay multiple sacks, multiple TFLs, And that
Speaker 7: next week it was like, what y'all gonna say? Now,
Speaker 7: I protest, I do whatever I want to. Jalen's a dog,
Speaker 7: So you don't think he's gonna have that mindset. I'm saying,
Speaker 7: just saying it could be a possibility.
Speaker 15: David, what you mean not the same exactly.
Speaker 6: So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: You don't like there's some players that know when they
Speaker 7: get fined, they're gonna make it up on the back
Speaker 7: end and towards their incentives and all that stuff. And
Speaker 7: I just me just watching him play in the way
Speaker 7: that he did that. It wasn't like he hesitated, it
Speaker 7: wasn't like he barked at him. He did that like unapologetically,
Speaker 7: get up out of here, and when he walked out
Speaker 7: of the stadium, I don't care. So that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: Like they had that mindset, he could easily could.
Speaker 4: I'll do it for this edition of the player. You
Speaker 4: might have it, bro. Thank you.
Speaker 7: Whatever, bro man, that's what you go get a players lounge.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna talk to y'all like we in the locker room.
Speaker 6: Long care, all, Aggie, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 4: Anthony dor said, keep shaking your head. I know how you.
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