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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast, Season five,
Speaker 1: Episode twenty two, House is Not a Home, brought to
Speaker 1: you by one of them productions, iHeart Radio, joined by
Speaker 1: my intrapid crew, Amy Sugarman, the Queen Bee two.
Speaker 4: You just said, he said, Episode twenty.
Speaker 1: I diad it's the fiend. Now it's fiend.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 1: Danielle Romo Tarras sued, Hello ladies. Uh I. For me,
Speaker 1: this episode was an absolute earthquake. I mean it was fissures, fissures,
Speaker 1: there was, there was sinkholes, there was. It was like wow,
Speaker 1: wow wow.
Speaker 3: It was equal parts amazing and upsetting.
Speaker 1: Hyeh mm hmm. Not a perfect episode, but I would
Speaker 1: say pretty much a perfect episode.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, no.
Speaker 1: Entertaining it all get out as they.
Speaker 3: Say, and a cliffhanger of cliffhangers for a season finales at.
Speaker 1: That moment at the end between mother and daughter watching you.
Speaker 4: Run brutal at the moment for me ripped my heart out.
Speaker 1: That was the biggest beat in uh story, beat in
Speaker 1: Gilmour thus far.
Speaker 2: That was.
Speaker 1: Man didn't need any dialogue.
Speaker 3: Oh but I love we'll get to it, but we'll
Speaker 3: get to it, but I love the final scene.
Speaker 5: It's just been so hard for people to wait like
Speaker 5: four months to keep watching.
Speaker 3: Isn't that the Yes, it's so different now because like
Speaker 3: we binge things right like we're doing so we get
Speaker 3: to watch it right away.
Speaker 4: But I was thinking about this too.
Speaker 3: They only had to wait four months think about like
Speaker 3: sex and the city and just like that just ended.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be like a year like euphoria. People have
Speaker 4: like two years. Well did you see Euphoria?
Speaker 5: They said twenty twenty five, and that was before the strike.
Speaker 4: It's like, that's.
Speaker 3: What's crazy, Like four months isn't actually year three?
Speaker 1: Actually three, not four. We had nine months of shooting
Speaker 1: and then three months off was like going to high school.
Speaker 3: So it ended in May, June, July, August, and it
Speaker 3: came back in September, right, so three months, you're right, thank.
Speaker 1: You, thank you, thank you. So I mean, Danielle, let's
Speaker 1: rock and roll, let's synopsize, let's just get let's just
Speaker 1: let's just jump on the horse and get going.
Speaker 6: Okay, So this is season five, episode twenty two. A
Speaker 6: house is not a home air date May seventeenth, two
Speaker 6: thousand and five, and Lorelai comes to the rescue after
Speaker 6: an out of character decision, lands Rory in jail. Luke
Speaker 6: bears that Lorlai may sell the Dragonfly. Rory, still reeling
Speaker 6: from the blow that Mitcham delivered, completely rethinks her future
Speaker 6: At Yale, Lane's band gets an unlikely booster and bikers
Speaker 6: descend on stars Hollow.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a heck of a great way
Speaker 1: to start an episode. And I love that tank And
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I don't know who that other fella is.
Speaker 4: No, it's who is Oh my god, we have to
Speaker 4: have to Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: We're terrific. And it was.
Speaker 4: All parts was his name, calling it Finn. Sorry it's Finn. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: It's but.
Speaker 1: Just terrific. And they provide, you know, when it got heavy,
Speaker 1: there was always something to lighten it up. You know,
Speaker 1: there was a Colin and Finn. There's a tailor, there's
Speaker 1: a Sean gun. They know how to sprinkle in the yes,
Speaker 1: the fun.
Speaker 4: I thought Colin and Finn were so.
Speaker 3: Like needed in that scene because it was so like,
Speaker 3: oh man, and it was so sad and heavy, and
Speaker 3: then they're just hilarious, and it's one of the most
Speaker 3: iconic lines because people love to do My.
Speaker 4: God, those are good.
Speaker 3: When they're like, realize, that's the moment.
Speaker 4: And then they bowed down to her and she smiled.
Speaker 1: She liked it.
Speaker 4: I thought that was such a great that you noticed
Speaker 4: that too.
Speaker 3: It's like she's like stop it and smiling at the
Speaker 3: same time, so you sort of realize, like, she's not
Speaker 3: totally devastated by this m.
Speaker 1: But yet again, she is maybe not by the fun
Speaker 1: she had, because there's nothing more fun than stealing it
Speaker 1: out and getting busted doing a little bit of time
Speaker 1: and a cell, knowing that it was darn worth it,
Speaker 1: that you just extended yourself in the right way as
Speaker 1: a youth or as a ute.
Speaker 4: And it's it's interesting.
Speaker 3: I can't wait till we dig into it in this
Speaker 3: conversation because Rory could have gone a different way as
Speaker 3: a result of this than she does, and I sort
Speaker 3: of wish she maybe would have gone that way.
Speaker 4: But well, we'll talk. Well, I love that she's in
Speaker 4: the Is she in the system? Is she in the system? Now?
Speaker 1: What's it mean in the SYSTEMA?
Speaker 4: I know we'll talk about it in pop culture.
Speaker 3: But Sipowitz is from NYPD blue or anyone doesn't know.
Speaker 4: So she's fully taking TV references.
Speaker 3: Like, man, is she in the stuff? Oh, s'll up here,
Speaker 3: She's got a pta.
Speaker 4: Oh she'll up here.
Speaker 1: She I promise she might even be there before you
Speaker 1: get there. Well, I'm not going to be there.
Speaker 3: And I love that the boys were like maxim Our,
Speaker 3: Maxwell Smart has found his ninety nine.
Speaker 4: It's just like my boyhood crushed.
Speaker 1: Barbara Feldon, Oh it just was crazy about her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know good five or six or whatever.
Speaker 2: I must.
Speaker 4: Rory comes out with her like envelope with her stuff
Speaker 4: in it.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh my god, I just really went to
Speaker 3: the slammer and Laura lies like is there anyone else
Speaker 3: in there?
Speaker 5: It's say, yeah, it was a slow night.
Speaker 4: And the boys were like it's vintage, and like Laura
Speaker 4: La you can tell just wants to like.
Speaker 5: It's like, well, it's like Colin and Finn, I'm in
Speaker 5: down down here to get grab logan like once a month.
Speaker 6: Like that's how they acted.
Speaker 1: Like it was how much trouble did you guys get
Speaker 1: into in high school? Did it get to like the
Speaker 1: police station hero None that's a lie.
Speaker 4: I'll admit something. I'll admit it.
Speaker 3: Admitt One time I had this big SUV and it
Speaker 3: knocked over someone's scooter and the.
Speaker 4: Guy I had in the car said, it's fine. I
Speaker 4: picked it up, it's fine.
Speaker 3: So I was just like, okay, it's fine, like I'm
Speaker 3: not going to worry about it.
Speaker 4: Drove away.
Speaker 3: Well, the scooter wasn't fine, so I got called down
Speaker 3: to the Loafiette Police station and then luckily I was.
Speaker 4: I had never been in trouble, and I was just
Speaker 4: like I trusted this guy.
Speaker 3: He said it was fine, like, you know, I'll pay
Speaker 3: for this whatever. Luckily I had parents that would pay
Speaker 3: for the scooter. But yeah, I did make a trip
Speaker 3: down to the Lafayette Police station.
Speaker 4: But it was fine. Wait, I'm thinking of like a
Speaker 4: tiny scooter. What kind of scooter was It was like.
Speaker 3: A tiny scooter, not not like a razor, like.
Speaker 1: A scooter that on and has a motor, like a motor.
Speaker 5: Electric, like an electric one.
Speaker 4: Like a semi Vespa type thing. Got it And I
Speaker 4: just totally didn't know.
Speaker 3: I mean I maybe kind of knew, but I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: it seems okay. I didn't get out and look it.
Speaker 1: Was By the time when I was thirteen fourteen, I'd
Speaker 1: been to court and I'd been to jail. Were you bad?
Speaker 1: I was good? I was very very good. I was
Speaker 1: very good.
Speaker 4: Not bad doesn't sound like it. What did you do?
Speaker 4: Did you Was it okay? Here's the ones I always say.
Speaker 4: Was it petty theft?
Speaker 1: Did you feel like?
Speaker 7: So?
Speaker 1: When I was twelve, my friends and I on a
Speaker 1: Friday night went out and it was a busy in
Speaker 1: our town. In our small town, they had police cone
Speaker 1: set up in the middle of the street divert traffic.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: We were running in and we were slaloming the cones.
Speaker 1: We were arrested. We were taken into the Haddenfield Police station.
Speaker 1: We were put in a cell. It was myself and
Speaker 1: my friend Tommy Poetrous, and I believe there was one
Speaker 1: other guy with us who I won't mention his name.
Speaker 1: The police officer and we were saying, please don't call
Speaker 1: our parents. We'll just stay here. We'll stay here for
Speaker 1: a couple hours, then you'll let us go home, but
Speaker 1: don't call our parents. Please don't do it, so the officer. So,
Speaker 1: after about a half an hour, some officer walks in
Speaker 1: with a golf club. The approaches, he opens it. He's
Speaker 1: got a like a seven iron, right, And my idiot
Speaker 1: friend Tommy says, because he wasn't scared. And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh man, we're going to get leathered by this cop.
Speaker 1: And there were trying to scare us. Mind you know,
Speaker 1: they didn't want good kids to go bad, so they
Speaker 1: were just trying to scare us. And uh and Tommy said,
Speaker 1: he looked at me, he goes, oh, good golf lessons,
Speaker 1: And I said, you eat, They're gonna beat the crap
Speaker 1: out of us. What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they obviously called your parents.
Speaker 1: They obviously called the parents the next The next night,
Speaker 1: I was supposed to go see a band called Crystal Mansion,
Speaker 1: and my dad took the tickets away from me. As
Speaker 1: he did because I was honestly, I told him. I
Speaker 1: told him about the incident, not knowing that the cops
Speaker 1: had already told me that.
Speaker 4: They had called.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 4: That was good, though, Yeah, set me straight, you spent.
Speaker 5: Nope, I was a little good in high school.
Speaker 4: I was too.
Speaker 7: The closest I got to is I had a bake
Speaker 7: id and I tried you, I tried using it, and
Speaker 7: they were like, and I was like trying to convince
Speaker 7: them that it was real, and they're like, okay, ma'am,
Speaker 7: if this is real, you would have no problems getting
Speaker 7: this from the police station later today.
Speaker 4: And I was like, no, thank you about.
Speaker 6: The closest I got.
Speaker 3: I'm like the most hardened criminal ear with my like
Speaker 3: I hit the scooter and didn't leave the note. I
Speaker 3: still feel bad about that, but it all worked. I
Speaker 3: should let it go. We should let it go. Let
Speaker 3: it go that you slalomed the cones.
Speaker 1: I can't get over.
Speaker 4: Neither of us are in the system life.
Speaker 1: It was. It was like I got hunts burgered or something,
Speaker 1: you know, I just gave up.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So there you go anyway?
Speaker 3: Or Rory, she's she's got a real that's like a
Speaker 3: that potentially is a felony.
Speaker 4: They stole a young.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like lawyers are all over it. Richard's getting his.
Speaker 4: Lawyer all over yeah.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 4: But Grand theft yacht?
Speaker 1: You know, do you think they'd ever steal Jeff Bezos's
Speaker 1: yat Grand Grand. That would be great, that would be
Speaker 1: Grand theft yacht.
Speaker 3: Right, that's Grand theft Princess cruises, right, doesn't his.
Speaker 1: Do you think the the thieves would hold the the
Speaker 1: wooden the naked wooden depiction of his love hostage.
Speaker 3: Wait, I have a question those sidebar, who's been on
Speaker 3: a yacht here?
Speaker 1: I have? I have? I have.
Speaker 3: Like the horn blower or like someone who's.
Speaker 5: I've been on one that someone like rented.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cabin cruiser.
Speaker 4: I've been on.
Speaker 3: A famous person's yacht which I can name Griffin's, and
Speaker 3: it was amazing. I'm not gonna lie. It was so rab,
Speaker 3: one of the most awesome things I've ever done. But
Speaker 3: I've never been on a cruise. I've never been on
Speaker 3: like a carnival cruise or a.
Speaker 4: And then I have once you hadn't.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't consider a cruise a yacht though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I've been on a yacht. And we
Speaker 3: had a sailboat growing up my grandparent.
Speaker 4: You could sleep on it. You could sleep on it.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't what I call it so great.
Speaker 5: Wait, Amy was the boat? Was the yacht?
Speaker 1: Doctor?
Speaker 4: Did it?
Speaker 2: Actually?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Go out?
Speaker 3: We did it so, Brian and I, Ryan Seacrest and
Speaker 3: I went on it for a week. We had to
Speaker 3: go to do a game show in Seattle with merv Griffin,
Speaker 3: and I think we went to a party on the yacht,
Speaker 3: a dinner on the yacht, and.
Speaker 4: Then we took the yacht.
Speaker 3: I love saying yacht from like Seattle to this island
Speaker 3: from would you like.
Speaker 1: To say my yacht? Our our yachts or our yachts
Speaker 1: are more all over the Mediterranean.
Speaker 3: M I don't think I would buy a yacht because
Speaker 3: I actually think I get seasick. I think at the
Speaker 3: time I didn't, but I think now from my older age, well.
Speaker 5: Isn't it also like so expensive to maintain and like
Speaker 5: where you dock it, and like there's all.
Speaker 3: They say for the gas, a lot of this, Like
Speaker 3: it's crazy. Here's what I will say though, for everyone listening,
Speaker 3: I don't know what. I have a boat that's over
Speaker 3: twenty some odd years old. It's a little ski boat,
Speaker 3: but it works as well today.
Speaker 4: Knock on the over we got it so like you
Speaker 4: can keep them from you.
Speaker 1: Will invite us up there, you having a whole shin
Speaker 1: dig up there. You got yachts and you've got ski boats, everybody.
Speaker 3: I don't have a yacht or a sailboat anymore. I
Speaker 3: don't have a sailboat. But I do have a tiny
Speaker 3: ski boat.
Speaker 5: How many fit on it?
Speaker 1: You know it's like five or six people?
Speaker 2: Seven?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you could probably fit seven.
Speaker 3: You can't sleep on it, just a little ski boat,
Speaker 3: but you can, like seven people can go on it.
Speaker 1: Man, that's fantastic, and I enition. I am all in
Speaker 1: skiboat competitions.
Speaker 4: If I named the boat I am, that would be
Speaker 4: so rare. It totally works.
Speaker 3: Before we start digging in, shout out to anybody who's
Speaker 3: totally listening. Did anybody read the comments this week that
Speaker 3: they want to start a drinking game?
Speaker 4: For how many times?
Speaker 5: I say totally? Yeah, we're at like three right now.
Speaker 1: Totally.
Speaker 4: And I am here for it.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, sorry, I say totally, but I
Speaker 3: do so.
Speaker 1: I just got back from Indiana. Wait, how was that
Speaker 1: fan fantastic? Do you know how much people love this podcast?
Speaker 1: They love it. They love it.
Speaker 4: I think they love Gilmore.
Speaker 1: No, but they love they love the ball club here,
Speaker 1: they love the crew, they love the conversations, they love
Speaker 1: that show. They love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they tolerate us. They love you, and
Speaker 3: they love Gilmore girls. So they're like, I'll tolerate them
Speaker 3: because I get good.
Speaker 1: Indianapolis is a is a an incredibly great place. Wonderful
Speaker 1: airport are wonderful steak places. Oh really, the airport is
Speaker 1: top notch, international, brand new, massive, organized.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 5: It matters these days.
Speaker 4: Were you the only Gilmore girls?
Speaker 1: Now Sean Gunn was there in the next booth, and
Speaker 1: then Michael Rooker from Guardian's Fame and.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you got You and Michael Rooker are always
Speaker 4: at the well together.
Speaker 1: You know that Rooker and I. It's it's like, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's explosive when Rooker and I are together.
Speaker 3: He's from Walking Dead, That's what I mean. He's from
Speaker 3: a million, the.
Speaker 1: Most awesome guy.
Speaker 4: What other celebrities were the.
Speaker 1: Gosh who was there?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: There was some Power Rangers, Yeah, there was some Power Rangers.
Speaker 1: There was a couple. There was a Walking Dead dude,
Speaker 1: I forget his name. Uh he was alive and.
Speaker 4: Uh Norman, no, no.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3: No, Danielle, he is way too like working on some
Speaker 3: new Walking Dead killing people's show. I can't wait at
Speaker 3: launches like in a week or.
Speaker 4: I forget a week or two.
Speaker 1: Oh, there was a there was a girl named Mika
Speaker 1: a La Hoover. Uh. Guardians. She she had a little
Speaker 1: role in Guardians and she she's done some other things
Speaker 1: and she was fantastic. We went to this fantastic steak
Speaker 1: place called Harry and Izzy's. And there's also a fantastic
Speaker 1: steak place called Saint Elmo's, which is like this lead
Speaker 1: right there, and it's on the same it's on the
Speaker 1: same block. Those two steakhouses are legendary in the Midwest,
Speaker 1: and you have to go to them. These these places
Speaker 1: are unbelievable.
Speaker 4: The little things in life. As Tara said, it's like
Speaker 4: when you have to travel, you're like.
Speaker 1: Oh the so no no, no, no, no, no no no. I
Speaker 1: got the I got the a ounce file at with
Speaker 1: the mashed potatoes and the green beans. Hello with a
Speaker 1: salad and the brownies and the ice cream in the
Speaker 1: whole thing. The filet was like butta, it was like butta,
Speaker 1: it was unreal.
Speaker 4: Well, look from a diner owner, Oh we trust you.
Speaker 4: I'm working on the cookbook.
Speaker 3: By the way, If people are listening, and I know
Speaker 3: we're getting sidetracked, that's okay.
Speaker 4: It's a season finale.
Speaker 3: If people listening would be interested in the Luke's Diner Cookbook.
Speaker 3: Can you message us, because we actually potentially might be
Speaker 3: able to get it done.
Speaker 4: If people say they.
Speaker 1: I've already got like five ten recipes that I do
Speaker 1: for my family. Great, great I have, I'm like running
Speaker 1: running a kitchen in here.
Speaker 4: That's perfect, that'd be great. All right, So we digress.
Speaker 3: But now we were in the jeep and the jeep
Speaker 3: has pulled up in front of Dosi's and we realize
Speaker 3: there's something going on, speaking of codes.
Speaker 4: Way way to bring it.
Speaker 1: Back with right, But wasn't it really very smile inducing
Speaker 1: when you see Taylor running behind her and he can't
Speaker 1: really keep up with her, and she's just she's not
Speaker 1: walking very fast.
Speaker 4: That's later? Is that right?
Speaker 1: That? Oh?
Speaker 4: Yes, that is?
Speaker 1: She was alone.
Speaker 4: You're right, that's what she gets out of the car. Yeah, right,
Speaker 4: you're right.
Speaker 3: So first they're in the jeep and we realize that
Speaker 3: there's she's got the fingerprints and you know, Rory's got
Speaker 3: the fingerprints, and uh, they sort of start to talk
Speaker 3: and Logan calls and Laura lies like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 4: Don't take the call, and that's where she says it
Speaker 4: wasn't his fault.
Speaker 2: This was me.
Speaker 4: So it's like, okay, you're right. Doc's like you behind
Speaker 4: your own back here.
Speaker 1: She just makes you smile. That guy just makes me smile.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but he goes you girls just won't pay
Speaker 3: any attention if it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Have a marketing Yeah what does he say? Adult label
Speaker 1: or mar.
Speaker 5: She was like so of the time too. Also, I
Speaker 5: like how it's like she couldn't move it in five minutes.
Speaker 5: She needs to move it before the five minutes.
Speaker 3: And Kirk Kirk's whole part in it, I'm common for
Speaker 3: you was that Kirk.
Speaker 1: I thought it was another guy and then Kirk somehow
Speaker 1: got out of the car. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't identify that guy as Kirk.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's in that vehicle kind of driving by.
Speaker 3: So then Laura La quickly tells Luke like, Rory, Rory
Speaker 3: stole a yacht and uh, it's been quite a night,
Speaker 3: like and he's like, what are you meaning? Rory stole
Speaker 3: a yacht and you don't care for that logan, just
Speaker 3: like you were kind of peeved by a dean.
Speaker 1: I think at one point are you talking to me me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Luke?
Speaker 4: You Luke.
Speaker 3: He's like, was she with that logan kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just. I was just I didn't like
Speaker 1: how I reacted to her coming in the diner the
Speaker 1: first time. I didn't like it. Yeah, I threw a
Speaker 1: flag on the acting. Happened on my acting because it
Speaker 1: was too because what did you do? And I turned
Speaker 1: around too quick and I kind of went over to
Speaker 1: the table too quickly and sat down too quickly, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why. Maybe they told me,
Speaker 1: like I have to speed it up because the camera
Speaker 1: move and you gotta, you know, get over there quicker
Speaker 1: scott or something like that.
Speaker 4: Well, okay, so this is interesting.
Speaker 1: I didn't like the choices I made in that scene,
Speaker 1: did not.
Speaker 3: Do you think it's because you knew, Like I think
Speaker 3: one of the hardest things about being an actor, right
Speaker 3: is that you know what you have to get to,
Speaker 3: so you might like, I know she's coming in, so
Speaker 3: you turn around too fast, like.
Speaker 1: Turned and I was wiping the counter. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: it seemed like I was anticipating what she was going
Speaker 1: to say, and I just I did not care for that.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 1: I like the scene. I think she was great, you know.
Speaker 4: Oh, I love the.
Speaker 3: Scene, but it makes me think of did you ever
Speaker 3: watch the movie? And again, I'm sorry for the I
Speaker 3: digress the Tom Hanks Sully Sullenberger movie. You know where
Speaker 3: he takes the boat in the plane, the plane in
Speaker 3: the Hudson. So one of the whole things, and I
Speaker 3: think this, yeah, exactly, because so one of the whole
Speaker 3: things of that movie that you realize is when they
Speaker 3: put the people in the simulator to see if they
Speaker 3: would have made the same choice Sully made. And what
Speaker 3: happens is the bird strike happens. A look at Danielle,
Speaker 3: I think she's even nodding. Maybe she's seen this. So
Speaker 3: the bird strike happens, and then the pilots immediately go
Speaker 3: to Teterborough, right, and they make it whatever, And they
Speaker 3: were saying Sully made the wrong call. But what happens
Speaker 3: is Sully says, but you knew, you have the knowledge
Speaker 3: that the bird strike's coming, and then you immediately make
Speaker 3: this decision. You have to be a human about it.
Speaker 3: I didn't know the first I have to realize it's
Speaker 3: a bird strike. And then the engines are down blah
Speaker 3: blah blah, and that thirty seconds makes it too far
Speaker 3: to go to Teeterborough. So I think that's exactly what
Speaker 3: you're saying, is like Danielle's giving me the nods.
Speaker 6: Okay, so I saw that. I know exactly what you're
Speaker 6: talking about.
Speaker 8: Yea.
Speaker 3: To me, that's the analogy to what Scott is saying,
Speaker 3: is that he knows Laura lies coming in, so he's
Speaker 3: wiping the counter and in real life you wouldn't turn
Speaker 3: so fast because you wouldn't know she's coming in.
Speaker 4: But the problem is, you.
Speaker 1: Know, did you ever wonder why they don't install anti
Speaker 1: bird screens on the front of those question? Is it
Speaker 1: that difficult? Does it? I mean it's.
Speaker 4: Birds, right, like like a mesh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at least a bird bounces off it. You kill
Speaker 1: the birds, poor birds, right.
Speaker 4: But I'm sure the engine killed the birds anyway.
Speaker 1: Sure, But I mean it's like, why kill all the people.
Speaker 1: It's like put some antique birds, you know. I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work on that.
Speaker 9: I love that.
Speaker 3: I'm giving Scott like the biggest analogy I could come
Speaker 3: up with for acting.
Speaker 1: I'm just a little bit in shock that he went
Speaker 1: to another production as opposed to Sex and the City.
Speaker 3: But thank you, thank you, but really going in the
Speaker 3: real life, and then I do think it's hard anyway.
Speaker 4: People are bored. But totally everybody drinks.
Speaker 6: Okay, we should add like to the list too.
Speaker 3: Totally, and like I did think it was funny when
Speaker 3: she's kind of going on her rant with Lougan, says,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm.
Speaker 4: Not prepared for this. She grounded herself from the library.
Speaker 3: Book because she was taking the illiot away from other people. Right,
Speaker 3: is this going to go on our permanent record? She
Speaker 3: can't vote, but she loves to vote. She has to
Speaker 3: be able to vote.
Speaker 1: We're still in the police station. We're in the car.
Speaker 5: Okay, sorry, everybody, Yeah, we're totally out of the Okay,
Speaker 5: we're in the West.
Speaker 1: I just got off an airplane, Okay, so give me
Speaker 1: a break. I have a call and I have to
Speaker 1: get back on an airplane at seven o'clock tomorrow morning
Speaker 1: and go to Canada. So I'm a little emotional right
Speaker 1: now because I'm four going to be gone four months.
Speaker 1: I'm miss my family. They're gonna come visit though.
Speaker 4: We're with you.
Speaker 3: We're lucky for you will be here with you during this.
Speaker 4: Totally.
Speaker 3: Of course, Scott, he doesn't have his wife or his kids,
Speaker 3: the thing he actually loves, but he's got it.
Speaker 1: I love you? What do you mean? I love you? Guys?
Speaker 2: Kind of.
Speaker 3: So okay, So then we realize I think she says, oh,
Speaker 3: this is where she says that Mitcham criticized her.
Speaker 4: I think she tells.
Speaker 3: Laurla I and I'm glad that she told everybody that
Speaker 3: she's not hiding it. I would have been frustrated if
Speaker 3: she didn't tell them.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the moment has to come right. The moment
Speaker 1: I'm anticipating is the confrontation with Mitcham. I suppose that
Speaker 1: happens next season. I hope, I hope it's a humdinger.
Speaker 6: I want to see Richard and.
Speaker 4: Give it to me.
Speaker 3: The one thing I think, and I know we sort
Speaker 3: of started to dabble in this last week, is like,
Speaker 3: would Rory really have been taken down by Mitchell's comment
Speaker 3: to the point where she's quitting school?
Speaker 1: Does feel a little extreme? It's quite or maybe it's
Speaker 1: just something we we we didn't realize. She is a
Speaker 1: very tender, frail little leaf, isn't she.
Speaker 5: I think I think for me, I took it as
Speaker 5: she seems a little lost in at Yale, and I
Speaker 5: think she took this and ran with her.
Speaker 1: She seemed a little lost at Yale. She's doing well,
Speaker 1: she's involved in the newspaper. She's got a couple of
Speaker 1: whacky she got a roommate, but she's used to that.
Speaker 1: It's comfort food for her.
Speaker 4: I got a boyfriend, whole boyfriend.
Speaker 1: She's set up.
Speaker 5: But I mean career wise, like I feel like she
Speaker 5: think everything.
Speaker 1: Else in the social Okay, I'm sorry to interrupt you,
Speaker 1: but she said to Yale Daily News, Right, that's what
Speaker 1: this is one of the prestige uh the papers in
Speaker 1: the country, in one of the top college newspapers, and
Speaker 1: it's going to lead to good things for her. So
Speaker 1: what is the problem? I don't get.
Speaker 9: Yeah, maybe Amy, I agree with you guys, But I
Speaker 9: also think it's one of those things that like when
Speaker 9: you're younger, like your scope of the bigger picture is
Speaker 9: not always there, and like I don't know, like I
Speaker 9: just think about it, like growing up playing in sports,
Speaker 9: like you have one bad game and.
Speaker 6: You're like I'm quitting, you know or whatever.
Speaker 4: Right, it's one of those things that's.
Speaker 6: Like this is all she's built up for her entire life,
Speaker 6: and for her to find out she's bad at it.
Speaker 6: She's having a kind of a little like not quarter
Speaker 6: her life crisis because she's not there yet, but like
Speaker 6: a college crisis ish.
Speaker 3: Okay, So why does she give so much more weight
Speaker 3: to Mitcham who's known her for a minute and has
Speaker 3: barely even really experienced her than the Yale's.
Speaker 1: Top the guy in the business in the world.
Speaker 5: But yeah, because that's just the school paper. Like Mitcham's
Speaker 5: like real deal, real loreal.
Speaker 3: Lies argument to me that she's like this guy doesn't
Speaker 3: know what he's talking about, and like who cares about
Speaker 3: his opinion? I kind of agree, like she's putting so
Speaker 3: much like why not.
Speaker 4: Prove him wrong? I think it's instead of just.
Speaker 3: Like giving up her entire life for this guy that
Speaker 3: doesn't even.
Speaker 4: Know her what.
Speaker 5: I also think she's just so like a head over
Speaker 5: heels for Logan that she's just gonna be like, okay,
Speaker 5: like this is Mitcham's a successful guy there, you know,
Speaker 5: own all this whole company, and I'm in love with
Speaker 5: his son, so I guess that he's I don't I
Speaker 5: don't know if I'm making sense.
Speaker 9: Your father in law to like you, and you also
Speaker 9: want the head of the newspaper to like you too.
Speaker 5: So she's gonna Yeah, so she's going to take a break.
Speaker 1: And well, not everybody that has talent has has the
Speaker 1: the thickness in the skin to deal with rejection. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a there's a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of unrealized potential out there, people who just weren't didn't
Speaker 1: let it bounce off.
Speaker 3: But she tends to double down instead of quitting, like
Speaker 3: we saw it Children, right, I think in the beginning
Speaker 3: of Children, remember she got kind of overwhelmed and had
Speaker 3: a bad grade. I think it was from Max maybe,
Speaker 3: but I can't exactly remember. But and instead of letting
Speaker 3: it take her sideway, she remember she got all the
Speaker 3: books and she was studying all the time, and she overcame.
Speaker 4: And then even at Yale, remember she.
Speaker 3: Gets that bad grade at first from somebody, and she
Speaker 3: doesn't quit. She maybe she quit that class or something,
Speaker 3: but like she doesn't just went out. So for me,
Speaker 3: it's just a little weird that she's literally giving up
Speaker 3: Yale to live in the pool house.
Speaker 1: Maybe we just don't know Rory the way we thought
Speaker 1: we did.
Speaker 4: And there you go.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I also think Rory has never been told that
Speaker 9: she's not good enough, and like in the last two episodes,
Speaker 9: she has like from Logan's team, from Logan's parents and family,
Speaker 9: and also from her job, so it's like kind of
Speaker 9: a double whammie. And like, I also think she knows
Speaker 9: larele I because we all can see she still wants
Speaker 9: to be with Logan. So I think she realizes Laura
Speaker 9: is not going to be there to help her cope,
Speaker 9: not not cope that's the wrong word, but like support
Speaker 9: her still wanting to be with Logan. And we saw
Speaker 9: that with like the phone call too.
Speaker 3: Right, She's like, are you seriously going to pick that up?
Speaker 9: And she's like, yes, I'm going to. Like, I think
Speaker 9: Rory's acknowledging, like, my mom isn't right for this moment.
Speaker 6: Maybe Grandma and Grandpa.
Speaker 1: Do you know what if she quits? It is a
Speaker 1: really irresponsible thing for somebody that powerful to say to
Speaker 1: an aspiring journalist. I think that was the crime of
Speaker 1: the century. I think that is such a devastating blow
Speaker 1: for such a revered, powerful figure and respected figure who's
Speaker 1: got real influence, right, and he says something like that
Speaker 1: to you, Yeah, I can I understand why she's folding
Speaker 1: her tent. That's a that's a big body. That's a
Speaker 1: knockout punch from Ali. You know, that's that's a heavyweight
Speaker 1: just nailing you.
Speaker 3: You know, I want everyone listening because it's so important.
Speaker 3: When Scott said, maybe we don't know Rory as well
Speaker 3: as we thought we did, so just everybody take note
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 4: And I want to talk about that more.
Speaker 5: But Tara, you go, oh, I was going to say, Scott,
Speaker 5: you said it earlier, but like some people just.
Speaker 4: Can't take that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But who could take now that I think about a
Speaker 1: little more, and I've you know, I've been in positions
Speaker 1: where I have aspirations and people tell me I'm not
Speaker 1: good enough and this kind of thing, and you know,
Speaker 1: depending on where it came from, it can have devastating consequences. Now,
Speaker 1: I was the type who just I didn't let anybody
Speaker 1: get in my way. I was just like, I don't
Speaker 1: believe you screw you well as an actor.
Speaker 4: I don't think you could. You're gonna get knows way
Speaker 4: more than you get.
Speaker 1: Because I was trying to cut her some slack, saying, well,
Speaker 1: you know, if she quits over this, then he was right.
Speaker 1: But right, but she's such a you know, she's such
Speaker 1: a lamb at this point. She's so young and she's
Speaker 1: so impressionable, and it's like to not for somebody that,
Speaker 1: to not give somebody in Rory's position encouragement, I just think,
Speaker 1: is it just, I mean, what a shitty thing to
Speaker 1: do to anybody, you know, I mean just the guy
Speaker 1: is not a way. I mean really he goes around
Speaker 1: and he treats people like this because he.
Speaker 3: But okay, but when you were that age, when did
Speaker 3: you start acting?
Speaker 4: When did baseball end in acting?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 3: Mid twenties, okay, so a little older than Rory, right,
Speaker 3: so you start there must have been a bunch of
Speaker 3: people that told you, no, you didn't get the part,
Speaker 3: all these things, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I had a thick skin coming out of
Speaker 1: baseball because they were saying no all the time too,
Speaker 1: So I was used to right.
Speaker 4: Okay, No, But that's a good point. I think that's important.
Speaker 3: Imagine if you would have quit, right, you never would
Speaker 3: have say that you were Rory. And I know I'm
Speaker 3: being a little bit like whatever making it so literal,
Speaker 3: but like you never would have gotten Gilmour girl if
Speaker 3: you just quit because five people told you weren't.
Speaker 1: No, I left baseball because I put seven years into it,
Speaker 1: and I was spinning my wheels and I thought, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to waste my twenties on this.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, acting, you obviously went out for jobs
Speaker 3: you didn't get and if you would have taken, say,
Speaker 3: some big director told you no, I don't know they did.
Speaker 1: They did know a lot. Brett Rodger told me he
Speaker 1: doesn't believe me as a cop, So I said, so, well,
Speaker 1: you hired Angelinia and Joelie to be in New York
Speaker 1: City detective. Are you crazy? She looks like a super
Speaker 1: much right.
Speaker 3: So Brett Bratner is a big, right big director who
Speaker 3: told you no, and if you would have listened to him,
Speaker 3: you never would have gotten Gilmer Girls.
Speaker 4: So that's my same point to Rory. She's just taking
Speaker 4: the no from Mitcham and being a little bit of
Speaker 4: a baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she's I'm sorry, she's a kid out of
Speaker 1: the suburbs, out of a small town. She's she's not
Speaker 1: coming from the school of hard knocks. She's she hasn't
Speaker 1: been knocked down, you know, she's this is this is
Speaker 1: a first experiences, you know, getting some resistance, but it's
Speaker 1: it's a heavy blow from a big guy and you
Speaker 1: know that's tough.
Speaker 5: Well that's that's what Danielle said earlier that just like
Speaker 5: she's always heard yes or like you know that she's
Speaker 5: great and she's doing a good job. I don't think
Speaker 5: she's ever been like criticized. Maybe like she got like
Speaker 5: an a right, like on a test, Like she's never
Speaker 5: like failed a test.
Speaker 3: The couple times she's been knocked down and she climbed
Speaker 3: back up again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I don't know where that Rory is.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just I don't. I don't know how
Speaker 1: you look at a person like Rory who's at Yale,
Speaker 1: who's at the Yale Daily News, is somebody is not
Speaker 1: encouraging her. I mean, how does somebody like that not
Speaker 1: encourage somebody in her position? I mean, you've got to
Speaker 1: be a real jackass, like Logan, he's a jackass.
Speaker 4: Correct an ass.
Speaker 3: Is it Mitcham's fault or is it Rory's fault? And
Speaker 3: I think it's Mitch's fault, right, and in my opinion
Speaker 3: it's Rory's. It's like Rory needs to buck up, just
Speaker 3: like Lorelei is saying, Larelei's got grit, right, So she's
Speaker 3: like ignore this ass who cares, don't quit like a
Speaker 3: Laureli to me, if I have to pick a side
Speaker 3: in all this, which we'll get to, because I know
Speaker 3: we're not quite there yet, I'm team Laurelai again.
Speaker 1: So now we get to see how good Rory's support
Speaker 1: system is. Can they get her out of this death spiral?
Speaker 1: Can they right the ship? Can they get her back
Speaker 1: on course? And that's really what a good support system does.
Speaker 1: So we'll see, we shall sing.
Speaker 4: Well, right, that's the whole point, because this is a.
Speaker 1: Big storm that hit her in the middle of the ocean,
Speaker 1: and she's going down and and but you know, look
Speaker 1: at it another way. Maybe a year away from school
Speaker 1: and she's traveling and she learning new things, maybe it's
Speaker 1: exactly what she needs. A lot of people have done that.
Speaker 4: I took a year after I maybe I quit.
Speaker 1: I left baseball, and I had to figure it out,
Speaker 1: you know, a little different situation.
Speaker 3: But you know my problem is, and again this is
Speaker 3: not a spoiler for everybody that wants to yell.
Speaker 4: Oh for gods, no, No, you don't even need to.
Speaker 2: You don't even need to.
Speaker 4: I promise Daniel doesn't either.
Speaker 3: If you know the movies, the reason I want to
Speaker 3: acknowledge the movies is because there is some significance to
Speaker 3: this point. And yes, not fully, but there is some
Speaker 3: significance at this point to where we find Rory in
Speaker 3: the movies, and so there I do think it's like
Speaker 3: sliding doors.
Speaker 4: And I would have loved.
Speaker 3: To see if Rory stood up to Mitcham didn't care
Speaker 3: where that same Rory would have been when we get
Speaker 3: to the movies, which we'll talk about. That's why I
Speaker 3: just keep saying, remember this moment when we about the movies,
Speaker 3: because I do think there's some important stuff here, and
Speaker 3: I think she should have been a little tougher on this, like.
Speaker 4: Laura l I.
Speaker 3: I think she should have taken Laurrelai's advice and done
Speaker 3: what Laurai said, rather than just let Richard and Emily
Speaker 3: take care.
Speaker 1: She was still she was still wagg she was still
Speaker 1: wobbly on her feet after the knockout blow. You have
Speaker 1: to give her a chance to recover. I think Richard
Speaker 1: was right, Emily was right.
Speaker 4: She's to recover.
Speaker 1: She got knocked out. She got When you get knocked out,
Speaker 1: you don't want to go back in the ring anymore.
Speaker 1: It takes a lot of courage to get back in
Speaker 1: the ring. She got knocked out.
Speaker 4: You don't know about falling off the horse, get back.
Speaker 1: Up the air. That's one way to we all.
Speaker 3: I guess it's like upbringing, right, because when I would
Speaker 3: like fail at things, literally fail, and I'd be like,
Speaker 3: oh well for me, and my dad would be like,
Speaker 3: you lost too bad, You lost too bad.
Speaker 4: And it wasn't like he was being mean. He was
Speaker 4: just saying, you lost too bad. This is life. Go again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so somebody need to say to Rory, you lost
Speaker 3: too bad. This one guy doesn't like you pick yourself
Speaker 3: up and you don't go stealing yacht.
Speaker 1: It's not just one guy, it's the guy.
Speaker 3: So I'm there's a lot of the guys, right, this
Speaker 3: is one of the guy's opinions.
Speaker 5: I think, like she her feelings are valid, Like she's
Speaker 5: allowed to be upset. Like I would say, let her
Speaker 5: be upset for the summer. I don't agree with not
Speaker 5: taking a year off, but like, yeah, let her be
Speaker 5: upset all summer, let her go do whatever she you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, like and then jump back into it.
Speaker 6: Yes, but Amy, you were saying somebody needs to tell
Speaker 6: her that.
Speaker 4: I think that's what Laura I did do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm saying Lurla did tell her, and she's
Speaker 3: being a big baby about it. It's like and even Tara,
Speaker 3: not that I don't love you, Tara, but you're like,
Speaker 3: she can be sad about it all summer. No, she
Speaker 3: should be sad about it for like the weekend and
Speaker 3: after the week and it's like, no one died, no
Speaker 3: one's sick. She didn't get flunk out Mitchem said she
Speaker 3: was going to be an assistant. Well, okay, nephew mitcham
Speaker 3: and then like come back.
Speaker 1: So I think this is this is Richard and Emily.
Speaker 1: I think from their point of view, how they see
Speaker 1: this is that, oh God, our daughter did not build
Speaker 1: a very strong granddaughter, and oh God, let's take her in.
Speaker 1: Let's let her recover and let's rebuild her somehow. Let's
Speaker 1: rebuild her fragile psyche. Let's let Richard and his wisdom
Speaker 1: work on her, talk with her, love her, support her,
Speaker 1: and guide her back onto the path that she was on.
Speaker 1: And if and if anybody can, because I don't think
Speaker 1: that they trust Laurla I at all, because which is mean.
Speaker 4: Because Laura I the one who's right.
Speaker 1: But it's not about Okay, but it's not about at
Speaker 1: this point, she's in college, she's not living at home anymore.
Speaker 1: It's not about right or wrong. It's about it's about
Speaker 1: listening to someone and seeing how they feel, where their
Speaker 1: heart is and where where their soul is, and aiding
Speaker 1: them in the right way. And they definitely agree. And
Speaker 1: it's like to go back home to Laurel I, you know, Rory,
Speaker 1: not even Rory wants that. She doesn't want to do that.
Speaker 3: I agree with what you're saying in that, like, you're right,
Speaker 3: But what I think is they're coddling her a little
Speaker 3: bit too much.
Speaker 1: I thought the plan if you're presented with somebody who's
Speaker 1: acting in this seemingly irrational way, how else do you
Speaker 1: deal with it? You don't. You don't do it by force.
Speaker 1: Not everybody responds to that, you know, not everybody that
Speaker 1: gets challenged and rises to the challenge. You got to
Speaker 1: take a different tact with somebody that is this obviously sensitive.
Speaker 4: Right, But here's what happened.
Speaker 1: Here's what happens being sensitive. It's an asset.
Speaker 3: No, Larelai maybe could have been a bit more sensitive,
Speaker 3: I'll give you that, but I do think she was,
Speaker 3: and Rory wasn't in trouble for stealing the yacht because
Speaker 3: Laura I was being sensitive to the situation but also
Speaker 3: saying like.
Speaker 4: You're not gonna quit Yale.
Speaker 3: Lorelai was so right in so many ways.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing.
Speaker 3: Grandparents aren't parents because grandparents are so obsessed and love
Speaker 3: their grandchildren so much that Richard and Emily were on
Speaker 3: board with the plan until Rory came in crying and
Speaker 3: hugging Richard and he couldn't take it. He loves her
Speaker 3: so much as a grandfather that he's like, whatever you need,
Speaker 3: your grandmother, and I will help you.
Speaker 4: Whatever you need. You can stay here. It's fine, it's fine,
Speaker 4: it's fine, don't cry, don't cry.
Speaker 3: Whereas Laurel I's like, you can cry, but I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna coddle you. We're gonna figure this out in the
Speaker 3: right way, just like Luke. We'll get to that. Luke
Speaker 3: has a whole plan of how he's going to fix this.
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