1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: Call Zone Media book Club, book Club, book Club, the Club. 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to the Clozon Media book Club, the 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: only book club where you don't have to do the 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: reading because I do it for you. I'm your host, 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Margaret Kiljoy, and this week my guest is nobody. I 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: have no guest. It's just me and you, Me and you, 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: dear listener. As we go into chapter four of my 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: own book, The Barrow Will Send What It May. We 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: had to take a break because for a couple of 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: weeks I really wanted to talk about that other thing. 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: But now that break is over, so we're back to 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: reading The Barrel Will Send what It May. If you're 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: just joining us here, well that's a weird place to 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: start a book. But if you need a reminder about 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: what happened, our protagonists had just broken into a man's 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: workplace slash store office, and we're like, I wonder if 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: there's magie here, and then they tried to go through 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: a door, and then magical fire came and enveloped Heather. 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: In fact, if you want the last paragraph of what 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: just happened, I'll just do that for you. I'll just 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: go back just a paragraph or two. I grabbed for 22 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: her the fingers of my hand, my goat bit in 23 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: hand went through the doorway and it tingled My wrist 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: though passed through and it hurt like fire. While most 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: of the times I've gotten burned, fire only hurts later 26 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: once the nerve ending started growing back or whatever, this 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: time it hurt immediately, like how fire hurts later. I 28 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: got a hold of her jacket and yanked back. She 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: fell on top of me. She stopped screaming. If she 30 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: was breathing, it was too faint to hear. Done undone 31 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: as the end of the chapter three, but now I'm 32 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: going to read chapter four, because this episode is chapter four. 33 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: Chapter four. She was alive. I found her pulse easily enough. 34 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: What the fuck? Brynn said, what the fuck? I agreed. 35 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 1: We dragged Heather back into the office. Brynn ran back 36 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: into the hallway and I heard her phone snap a photo. 37 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: She slammed the cursed door shut. Found our fucking magician, 38 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: I said, as I worked the office window open, Brynn 39 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: shut and locked the office door. Doomsday. Brynn said, she'll 40 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: know what to do. I climbed out the window. Bryn 41 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: handed me Heather and we ran for it. We couldn't 42 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: lock the window behind us, we couldn't grab our bikes. 43 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: Brynn put Heather into a fireman's carry and we made 44 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: for a side street, just as the nineteen fifties pickup 45 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: truck roared down the main street and skidded to a 46 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: halt out in front of the building. I didn't think 47 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: he saw us. Don't die, Brynn said, as we ran. 48 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: Don't die, don't die, don't die. Doomsday met us at 49 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: the front door of the library, and we ran up 50 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: the steps. I was just out of Breatha's brin, and 51 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: I didn't have one hundred some extra pounds of friend 52 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: thrown over my shoulders. I swept dozens of books off 53 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: the table, and Bryn laid Heather down atop it. I 54 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: told Doomsday the gist of what had happened. You've got 55 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: a hospital in town, I asked. As Vasillis came up 56 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: after us. He shook his head. Nearest one's about an 57 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: hour east. We've got a little emergency clinic, though, won't 58 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: do any good, Doomsday said, as she inspected the patient. 59 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: It's not physical damage, it's metaphysical damage. That green fire, 60 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: it's called witch's fire. Rebecca mentioned it once burns the 61 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: not the soul. Imagine you've got a second body, a 62 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: metaphysical body. The bones of that second body, that's your soul, 63 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: which is fire, burns away that second skin, the membrane 64 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: that protects the soul. It'll kill you as sure as 65 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: being flayed. We've got to try to reverse the damage, 66 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: Vascilla said, We've got to regenerate that second skin. No, 67 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: Doomsday said, too dangerous. Just need to soothe the burn, 68 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: keep it from getting infected while it heals itself. That 69 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: could take years. Vascilla shouted, I've been studying this for 70 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: a decade. Half of what you know you learned here today, 71 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: reading from my collection. He rose to his full height. 72 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: Everyone freaks out a little bit differently. Vasillis apparently freaks 73 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: out by trying to dominate people. He wasn't winning me over, 74 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: and she'll be in a coma the whole time. Doomsday agreed, 75 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: we have to do this now, Vasillis said. Doomsday looked thoughtful. 76 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: I was going to back her whatever she chose. That 77 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: was an easy conclusion to reach. She's your friend, Doomsday said, 78 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: at last, she's my everything. The two of them together 79 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: prepared the ritual. Vasillis was the teacher, Doomsday the student. 80 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: It was sort of bizarrely elaborate, complete with wringing the 81 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: floor with herb infused salts and washing Heather's nude body 82 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: with oils. Brynn and I stayed out of the way, 83 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: watching from a couch in the corner. Brynn was folded 84 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: in on herself and worry. I held her. Vasillis chanted 85 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: in Greek and English. A supernaturally bright red flush moved 86 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: across Heather's skin in the wake of his hands as 87 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: he encanted by the look on his face and the 88 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: sweat beginning to form on his brow. It wasn't working. 89 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: After a minute, maybe Doomsday joined him. She too looked desperate. 90 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: I heard a crack as Vasillis's hands jerked into an 91 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: unnatural position. He fainted, crumpling down onto himself and the floor. 92 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: Then Heather screamed. Then Heather died. Vulture and Thursday came 93 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: back that evening before Vassilis came to Doomsday had briefed 94 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: them over the phone shortly after it happened, but I 95 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: imagine it was still quite a shock to walk into 96 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: the apartment. Heather was laid out on the table, still 97 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: with a sheet covering everything but her face. Vasilis was 98 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: passed out on the floor in a fetal position. Doomsday 99 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: was pacing. Brynn was sobbing. I was holding her with 100 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: my good hand, my wounded hand, the hand that the 101 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: goat had bitten, the hand that hadn't been burned by 102 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: the witch's fire. I didn't let it touch her. I 103 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: was afraid of my own hand. What did you find, 104 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: Doomsday asked the boys. She put on a kettle for tea. 105 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes it was unclear if that woman was capable of 106 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: expressing emotion. I guests. Vulture said, I guess that still 107 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: matters more than ever. Doomsday said, she wasn't wrong. We 108 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: found their car, Thursday said. Pushed into a lake close 109 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: to the trailhead, Vulture found the treadmarks and the dirt. 110 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: Even six months later, I wouldn't have noticed them. I 111 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: dove in and found the car, and Doomsday asked, and 112 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: it's a sunken car. Thursday said, that's it, that's all. 113 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: No skeletons, no backpacks, just a fucking car. Bacillis stirred 114 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: Breyne and I jumped up and helped him to his feet, 115 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: then to a chair. Doomsday set the tee in front 116 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: of him. Maybe she hadn't been as callous as I assumed. 117 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: We are going to talk about this, Doomsday said, kneeling 118 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: on the floor in front of his chair. Let me 119 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: be If I leave you alone right now, you may 120 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: never emotionally recover from what's happened. I don't care. Methodically, 121 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: he pulled on his mangled hands and worked them back 122 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: into place. I never seen anyone injured like that, and 123 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: I never seen anyone heal themselves like that. When a 124 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: person is dying, you don't stop to wait for their 125 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: permission to intervene medically. You know that you acted on that. 126 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: The same is true now for you. I never even 127 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: imagined this side of Doomsday. I assumed she didn't have 128 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: a nurturing bone in her body. Tough love is still love. 129 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: Though you were right, Vascilla said, she was too far 130 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: gone to heal. We should have soothed her wounds instead 131 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: of trying to directly reverse the damage. Is that what 132 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: you want to hear? That's true, Doomsday said, But it's immaterial. 133 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: I could have been wrong. You did what you felt 134 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: like you had to do, which is always ethically better 135 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: than doing nothing. Then what are we going to talk about? Well, 136 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: they're going to talk about these ads, eh, eh, find 137 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: the most emotionally impactful part of the story and interrupt 138 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: it with advertisements. That's the way of the world. Here's 139 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: the ads and we're back. Then what are we going 140 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: to talk about? We're going to talk about Barrow because 141 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: I don't know the first thing about emotional support, but 142 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: I want to get you problem solving instead. I want 143 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: you to worry about this later soon. Even think of 144 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: problem solving right now as your emotional tourniquet to stop 145 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: the bleeding before you can get real support. What does 146 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: this mean? Brinn asked and showed Vasillis a photo of 147 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: the Greek carving over the door. Vulture on Thursday, who 148 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: hadn't yet seen it, stood behind him to look as well. 149 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: None that are living may pass Doomsday nodded. That's about 150 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: what I figured. She steepled her fingers. How long have 151 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: you known that Sebastian Miller was responsible for the resurrection 152 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: of a Sola and Gertrude. I didn't know. You're not 153 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: an idiot, It was only I guess you are lucky. 154 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm not in a blaming people mood. Doomsday said, blaming 155 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: people moods are the opposite of getting shit done moods, 156 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: and I'm in a getting shitit done mood. Vasillis nodded weakly. 157 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: I had no idea. When a Sola came back, she 158 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't talk to us. But when Gertrude came back to yeah, 159 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: I suspected. Was he ever in here? Ever? Checking out 160 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: books on magic? All the good stuff is closed to 161 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: the public. It's all up here. Thursday nodded. He did 162 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: check out a book on modern Greek last winter, returned 163 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: it not a week later. I was disappointed, because it 164 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: would be nice to have people locally I could talk to. 165 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: That's how he knew the right words for the barrier, 166 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: Doomsday said, My hand went through the barrier without burning. 167 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: I said, let me see it, Vasillis said. I showed him. 168 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: He whispered arcane words, throwing them forcefully from his lungs, 169 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: as though afraid of them, then held his hands above 170 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: my hands. My left hand, my undamaged hand glowed red. 171 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: My right hand was unchanged. This hand, he said, it 172 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: doesn't have a soul. Cool, I said, Bryn laughed a little, 173 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: then got self conscious. What does that mean? Practically almost nothing. 174 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: Enough wounds like that and you'll die. But I don't 175 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: think I'll have any effect on you other than that. Okay, 176 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: Thursday said, this is easy enough. The barrier won't let 177 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: anyone through who's living. An undead hand doesn't count as living. 178 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: I bet a soul in Gertrude don't either. Get one 179 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: of them to head on through find out what happened. 180 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: They won't do it, I said, think about it. They've 181 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: got to know more than they're telling us already. If 182 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: they want wanted to help more, they'd have offered. Gertrude's 183 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: probably in on it. Thursday said, they're married, after all. 184 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: I get resurrecting your dead wife, I said, but I 185 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: wonder why a sola we resurrect? Heather Bascilla said, to 186 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: get through the barrier. I looked at Doomsday, expecting her 187 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: to shoot him down. Yeah, Doomsday said. Instead. She put 188 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: her hand to her cheeks, scratching in thought, yeah, that 189 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: would that would work. She'd be able to go through 190 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: the boundary. Are you fucking kidding? Thursday asked? The thing is? 191 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: Doomsday said, still thinking it over, I don't think we 192 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: could do it without the Book of Barrow. I only 193 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: know a few of his minor rituals, not resurrection. Also, 194 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: don't you have to end one life to bring one back? Yes, 195 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: he said, well you can bring them back temporarily as 196 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: long as the ritual is still being cast. But if 197 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: you don't give Barrow his due at the end of 198 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: the ritual, right back to death, the person goes, this 199 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: is really obviously a shit idea. Thursday said, why. Doomsday asked, 200 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: are you telling me that if you could bring Heather 201 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,479 Speaker 1: back right now that you wouldn't do it? It's unnatural. 202 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: Thursday said, it's fucking magic. Doomsday said, none of it's 203 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: any more or less natural than anything else. I'm not 204 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: here just to learn about this stuff in the abstract. 205 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm here to gain and wield power over others. Thursday asked, no, 206 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: God damn it, not over others. Everything is power. A 207 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: fucking gun is power. I used one once to end 208 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: three lives, but it wasn't because I wanted to wield 209 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: power over them. It's that I needed them to stop 210 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: wielding power over me. It's a pretty fucking massive power 211 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: imbalance in this world, and I don't see why we 212 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: should be afraid to correct it. Doomsday stood up, bringing 213 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: her teacup with her taking a long sip. Are humans 214 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: supposed to fly? I don't know. We built airplanes though. 215 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: Are we supposed to bring back the dead? I don't know, 216 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: but EMTs do it all the time. It's not a 217 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: question of whether or not it's ethical to bring Heather 218 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: back from the dead. It's whether or not we can 219 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: and whether or not it will further our aims. She 220 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: turned his face. Vacillis, if it's a life for a life, 221 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: will you do it? Will you die for her? Yes? 222 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: Vacillis answered, but then doubt clouded his features. I don't know, 223 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: moot point, Vulture said, we don't have the book. Maybe 224 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: he's got it on him, but I bet it's on 225 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: the other side of that barrier. I say we send 226 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: a drone, Doomsday laughed, I wasn't joking. Vulture said, we 227 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: get a drone to fly down there with a camera. 228 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: Where the hell would we get a drone? Doomsday asked, well, 229 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: if they only looked at our sponsors, they might find 230 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: that we might be advertising drones. I don't know. Maybe 231 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: there's only one way to find out, and it's still 232 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: listen and we're back. Oh like I'm the one with 233 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: the unrealistic plan. I'm not the one planning human sacrifice 234 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: and reanimating corpses. Oh shit, wait, Doomsday said, what Thursday asked? 235 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: Doomsday went to the pile of the book still scattered 236 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: across the floor next to the table, and picked one out, 237 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: flipping through the pages. Yeah, okay, no resurrection for us, 238 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: she said. Quote Barrow an endless spirit who stands at 239 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: the gate between the living and the dead, waiting to 240 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: tear it from its hinges. While capable of granting power 241 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: over many things, he is mostly known for his ability 242 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: to reverse to death by imbuing the body of the 243 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: dead with a peace of his soul. It is believed 244 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: that enough of his soul passes from the land of 245 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: the dead into the land of the living, the gates 246 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: will open, the distinction between the living and the dead 247 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: will be forever destroyed. The living will storm Heaven, the 248 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: dead will storm Earth. So Vulture said, if enough people 249 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: are resurrected all at once, we get some Bible style apocalypse. Basically, 250 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: Doomsday said cool Walter said, how many resurrections do you think? 251 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: I asked, No idea. I looked to vacillus. You knew 252 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: about this apocalypse thing, yeah, he said, looking down at 253 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: his hands, and you didn't say anything about it. Because 254 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: I want to bring back Heather. Holy shit, Brnn said, 255 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: If I really could trader sorry ass for Heather, I 256 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: would do it in a second. Hey, don't be mean 257 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: to him, Vulture protested, he's just well, he's had a 258 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: rough day. The odds of one more piece of barrow 259 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: being the tipping point are so incredibly low, As Silas said, 260 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: these rituals have been performed for thousands of years and 261 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: it hasn't happened yet. We could bring Heather back and 262 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: just her and would almost certainly be fine, Almost certainly. 263 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: Thursday mumbled, I would bring Clay back. I realized that 264 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: all of the sudden, I would go to Denver and 265 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: I would dig up the body of my old best 266 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: friend and I would bring him back to life because 267 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: the world needed someone like Clay, because I needed Clay. 268 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: I don't know that I would kill to do it. 269 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd sacrifice myself to do it, 270 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: but I might risk the apocalypse for him. All of 271 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: this is one hundred percent beside the point. Thursday cut in. 272 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: We don't have the book. We can't resurrect anyone. We 273 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: probably can't find a drone in town. Vulture looked, sad. 274 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: We can either try harder to recruit a Sola or Gertrude, 275 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: or we can confront Sebastian. Head on. Thursday said, those 276 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: are our options, or we follow Sebastian and figure out 277 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: how he gets into his basement. I said, he's not resurrected, 278 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: not that we know of. He's got to get in 279 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: there somehow. He can probably bring the barrier up and 280 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: down at will. Doomsday said, and it will last until 281 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: he's unconscious or dead, like asleep. I asked, no, actually unconscious. 282 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: How do you summon a barrier like that anyway? Thursday asked, 283 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: can we do that and keep ourselves safe? Doomsday looked 284 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: to Vasillis, implying that she didn't know. It's not Barrow's work. Specifically, 285 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: a lot of spirits can grant, which is fire, but 286 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: it's still necromancy. The only ritual I know it involves 287 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: inflicting immense pain on an unwilling victim. That's out, then, 288 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: Vulture said. Thursday still looked thoughtful. Hey, Brynn said from 289 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: where she stood by the window. Is there supposed to 290 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: be a black suv parked out in front of the library. 291 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: That a normal thing, no Vasillis said, instead of coming 292 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: to look, though, he dropped his head in sorrow. I 293 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: bet it's the magic Feds. Vulture said. How'd they find us? 294 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: I asked, I don't know. Vulture said, probably the tracking 295 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: devices we all have in our pockets. I keep trying 296 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: to get you all on burner phones and VPNs, but 297 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: you never listen. What do we do? Vasillis asked. It 298 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: was hard to understand him with his head buried in 299 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: his hands. We sit tight, I said, it just drove off. 300 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: Brynn reported, problem solved forever. Vulture said, what were the plates? 301 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: I asked, California could be tourists. Vasillis said he still 302 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: didn't look up. Now, I bet it's the magic Feds, 303 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: Vulture said, doesn't change anything. Thursday said, just raises the 304 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: steaks is all. It's never good to get caught with 305 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: a body. They won't be after us, I said, they'll 306 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: be after the book, and fuck if they get it. 307 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: I assure him, So glad you came to town, Vasillis said, 308 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: he tried for biting sarcasm. But halfway through his sentence, 309 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: his voice broke and he started to cry. They're there, 310 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: Vulture said, rubbing our host's shoulders. It's okay, And Vulture 311 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: thought for a minute, I mean, it's not actually okay. 312 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: Silence reigned in the apartment, but I guess you knew that. 313 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: That night, Vasillis slept in the living room and gave 314 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: Brinn and me his room. He said he wanted to 315 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: keep vigil. I could think of a few reasons it 316 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: was a bad idea to let him, but I wanted 317 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: to sleep in a bed, so I didn't say anything. 318 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: Took off to scope out the town. That was also 319 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: a bad idea. There were magicians and magic feds about, 320 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: but I knew my opinion on the matter wouldn't have 321 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: any bearing on his actions, so I didn't say anything. Thursday, 322 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: actually sensible decided to keep watch from inside the library 323 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: rather than standing out front with a gun. For a 324 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: long while, I laid on my back on Vasillisa's bed. 325 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: Brynn was curled up with her head on my shoulder. 326 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: Racking sobs from the living room filled the air, and 327 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: I focused my attention on Bryn's breathing. Today, fucking sucks, 328 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: I said, at last, Yeah, it does, being demon Hunters's garbage. 329 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: Brynn laughed a little bit at that, but it wasn't 330 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: her giggle. He was too soft, too tenuous, to be 331 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: her real laugh. I don't say this much, Brynn said, 332 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: and I don't even know where I mean by it. 333 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: But I want to go home. God, I said me too. 334 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: I held her tighter. The crying in the living room 335 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: hit a crescendo, and it sounded like the scillis was 336 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: trying to vomit his heart out of his chest. How 337 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: do you think we get ourselves thrown in the same 338 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: prison if we go down for this, I asked. If 339 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: we're lucky, they'll send us to prison. Bryn said, I've 340 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: got a feeling though, that this is an X file shit, 341 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: and they just quietly make it so you and I 342 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: were never born. Who would have figured Moulder and Scully 343 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: are the bad guys after all? I thought it over 344 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: for a while. If we can see them, they're not 345 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: after us, I said, huh. Feds don't show up looking 346 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: obviously like FEDS unless they're there to scare you, not 347 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: arrest you. It's the mortar shell. You don't hear that 348 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: kills you, Brine asked, yeah, hope there aren't more mortar 349 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: shells around. The crying from the living room faded into silence. 350 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: I like you, Brin said. We don't get to choose 351 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: how we die, only how we live. And I like 352 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 1: you and I'm glad I got to know you. I 353 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: like you too. You know what Heather and I talked 354 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: about last night? So late Berne asked, what's that you 355 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: well me but me as relates to you. I told 356 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: her how I felt about you, how I wasn't sure 357 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: what to do. She told me, I'm going to get 358 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: the exact words wrong, which is going to drive me 359 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: fucking crazy because it's one of the last things she 360 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: ever got to say. She told me that it's okay 361 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: to let yourself love someone, but that letting yourself love 362 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: someone is like letting someone have the keys to your 363 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: control room so that you can share the responsibility of 364 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: running yourself with someone else. It's worth doing, and people 365 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: will get in there and pull the wrong levers. That's 366 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: just the risk you got to take. I like that, 367 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: I said, What was with the Ora boris? New start 368 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: friend said? She choked up a little on her words. 369 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: She wanted a snake that eats its own tail to 370 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: remind herself that things go in cycles, that it's never 371 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: too late for a new start. There wasn't anything to 372 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: say to that, there's always time for a new start, 373 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: until one day there isn't holding one another trying not 374 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: to think about the world outside that bedroom. We slowly 375 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: let sleep come for us. Dun dun dum. That's the 376 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: end of chapter four. What happens in chapter five, Well, 377 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to wait until probably next Sunday. But 378 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: that's it for Cool Zone Media book Club. And if 379 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: you enjoyed this show, then listen to more of it. 380 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's been going for a while. You 381 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: can listen to the backlog. Oh. Also, the sequel to 382 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: this book is available for pre order right now. 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