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Speaker 1: And we are thirty hours away from some Cowboys football.
Speaker 1: And I know all of you are sitting on the
Speaker 1: edge of your seats waiting on the preseason to start.
Speaker 1: But guys, thank you so much for joining us here
Speaker 1: at the home of the Dallas Cowboys at the Star
Speaker 1: here in Frisco, and they let me do it again.
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, if you are now rocking with
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Speaker 1: Jesse Holly, and Kurt. What did you do with your
Speaker 1: You're a new man, Danny surrect Johnian today. Kurt Daniels
Speaker 1: is not gonna be the safety raft for the show today.
Speaker 1: But Danny, I expect for you to hold it down
Speaker 1: over there and we're gonna be discussing all things Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys football. But guys, the Hall of Fame game is
Speaker 1: going on. Like I said, we're thirty hours away from kickoff,
Speaker 1: but there's a reason for all of this, and that
Speaker 1: is the Hall of Fame enshrinement. And the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: have three three Cowboys going into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: And from the class of twenty twenty, we have safety
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, two times Super Bowl champion Cliff Harris, and
Speaker 1: two times Super Bowl winning head coach Jimmy Johnson will
Speaker 1: be enshrined on on Saturday. And I think this is
Speaker 1: something very special that the NFL is doing. Because of
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty class not being able to actually being
Speaker 1: TRINE last year because of COVID nineteen they're having, they're
Speaker 1: doubling up this year to allow both of those classes
Speaker 1: to be in TRINE. So it's gonna be a busy weekend.
Speaker 1: It's a football lover's dream to be in Canton, Ohio
Speaker 1: this weekend. And so Cliff Harris and Jimmy Johnson are
Speaker 1: going in on Saturday and then on Sunday wide receiver
Speaker 1: and Cowboy and Cowboys Super Bowl champion Drew Pearson Who'll
Speaker 1: be going in on Sunday. So round up, applause all
Speaker 1: of the Downing A out Boys that are going into
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame and to the Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: it's gonna be wonderful. But guys, the game, the game,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be big, and there's a lot that you
Speaker 1: guys we've been talking about this about all the players
Speaker 1: that we're looking forward to seeing, but also from an
Speaker 1: evaluation standpoint, Gang, talk about how important this game is.
Speaker 1: And Jesse, I'll start with you. Well for the valuation point,
Speaker 1: every time you get a chance to get on film
Speaker 1: and get on the field in live action, yes, you
Speaker 1: would love to make the team that you're currently with,
Speaker 1: but this is not only an audition for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: This is also an audition for thirty one other football
Speaker 1: teams around the football league because rosters will get turned,
Speaker 1: chopped up, twitched, and all other kinds of things. And
Speaker 1: so when you put stuff out there on film, you
Speaker 1: just never know who who else is watching your performance,
Speaker 1: and so you know when you hear it, like you know,
Speaker 1: when Tek's been missing some time. If I'm a backup guy,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Tank, Tank, take your time, Amari, take your time.
Speaker 1: You know, Dak, you know what I think, another week
Speaker 1: for the show, that will be just fine. Now, you know,
Speaker 1: when guys start missing time and you're you're kind of
Speaker 1: on the fringe or that bubble. You're you're you're you're
Speaker 1: not praying for other guys to get hurt, but you
Speaker 1: ain't rushing them back. And so first out the gate,
Speaker 1: you want to put a good impression out there for
Speaker 1: the coaches because when they go back and evaluate the film,
Speaker 1: you want them to see, oh, he's taking and applying
Speaker 1: the things that he learned in the film room. And
Speaker 1: I've watched him progress from what we told him at
Speaker 1: OTAs or mini camps and now seeing in a live
Speaker 1: action and whether that be you know, for routes or
Speaker 1: assignment alignment, depth running to the football. The one thing
Speaker 1: that I will say in these early preseason games, what
Speaker 1: coaches want to see from you. They want to see
Speaker 1: you going one hundred miles an hour. The scheme is
Speaker 1: going to be very basic. That'll tell who's studying, who's
Speaker 1: not studying, who's ready for the big stage, who's kind
Speaker 1: of not right ready for the big stage. But are
Speaker 1: you flying around playing football at a very high level
Speaker 1: and a fast pace. So you know, you only get
Speaker 1: one time to make a first impression, and so you
Speaker 1: better go out there and put some good stuff on film,
Speaker 1: because you know that can now dictate where you go
Speaker 1: the next week, as far as where you get reps at,
Speaker 1: moving you up the depth chart and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: You hit it on the head. I was gonna leave
Speaker 1: with the first impression. You don't get that back. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you still appreciate the connection. D fight tread right there,
Speaker 1: lock it up. I'm saying, yeah, yeah, we'll come up
Speaker 1: with their hands hits from the street, milk and milk
Speaker 1: and hey, yeah, and so do you get one first
Speaker 1: impression all these guys is is this is very important
Speaker 1: for these guys. These guys need to come out and
Speaker 1: not only come out there and go one hundred miles
Speaker 1: per hour, right, not only compete, but also execute. Can
Speaker 1: you take like like you said, can you take what's
Speaker 1: being taught on the film room? Can you take this
Speaker 1: this fast eight days of install right and go out there,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's gonna be dumbed down. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, the coach is gonna throw you into the
Speaker 1: hot water. You were gonna be gassed. You are not
Speaker 1: coming off that field. Right. You can look at the
Speaker 1: sideline all you want to, but you better should a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, don't look at the sideline because you
Speaker 1: look at the sideline. That means that you want to
Speaker 1: come out popping some flower seeds like this. You're good,
Speaker 1: you're good, and he's gonna bring a water bottle on everything,
Speaker 1: But don't expect to come out the game. So they
Speaker 1: want to see your grit. They want to see how
Speaker 1: competitive you are. They want to see you gas, right,
Speaker 1: because when your gas, the first team that goes is
Speaker 1: what your mental right? Right? The mental goals right? So
Speaker 1: can you remember your assignments? Is it important enough for
Speaker 1: you to still continue to execute even though we know
Speaker 1: that you're dog tired, even though you know you're not
Speaker 1: coming out this game. Oh and by the way, yeah,
Speaker 1: as soon as you finish up with that play, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna see you all on one of the special teams. Right,
Speaker 1: So you're gonna be You're gonna be army crawling up
Speaker 1: about this piece. They want to see that and they
Speaker 1: want to see physical. These guys are trying to install
Speaker 1: a new culture with this with this team, with this organization.
Speaker 1: Are you going to live up to what they're trying
Speaker 1: to put down? I think to something to keep an
Speaker 1: eye on is the coaching staff in general, just their
Speaker 1: communication and how they're able to communicate only with themselves
Speaker 1: with the players, especially if they're wanting to keep the
Speaker 1: scheme a little more simple. And these are not going
Speaker 1: to be the starters that we're going to be seeing, right,
Speaker 1: We're going to see a lot of those third enforce
Speaker 1: string players and how they're learning and absorbing all of this.
Speaker 1: But I want to see how the coaching staff communicates
Speaker 1: as well. I know that like some of the court,
Speaker 1: like dan Queminsy is going to be up in the
Speaker 1: box like not on the field, So I think that's
Speaker 1: just important too, of and not only the new coaches
Speaker 1: on the staff, but just working off the staff that
Speaker 1: was here last year because they didn't have like the
Speaker 1: normal install for everything like that. So I think that's
Speaker 1: going to be important too. Is not only is this
Speaker 1: game important along with the rest of the preseason games
Speaker 1: for those non starters for film like you guys were
Speaker 1: talking about, but I think the coaching staff too, of
Speaker 1: not making the same mistake last year with a slow start,
Speaker 1: like making sure you are coming right out of the
Speaker 1: gun and everyone is on the same page. And I
Speaker 1: think also to add to that what you just said
Speaker 1: to any is that for this team and going back
Speaker 1: to last year, guys that did not have a preseason.
Speaker 1: This is the first time in a long time where
Speaker 1: even your rookie class from last year has never played
Speaker 1: in a preseason. So guys like Reggie Robinson, guys like
Speaker 1: Bradley and I, guys that didn't get an opportunity to
Speaker 1: put out that preseason film for college you know, really, yeah,
Speaker 1: since your first impression exactly, and so I mean even
Speaker 1: Ben d Nucci, we think about our first impression of
Speaker 1: Ben d Nucci was Sunday night in Philadelphia. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a tough audition for anybody. And so these preseason
Speaker 1: games are going to be pivotal for these guys. But
Speaker 1: like I said, the evaluation process for third, third, and
Speaker 1: fourth string guys and for me, one of the guys
Speaker 1: that I'm pointing the spotlight under is Malik Turner. Malik
Speaker 1: Turner is a guy in camp that you continuously hear
Speaker 1: his name. Now for the semi foo hookos, for all
Speaker 1: these other guys that are out there, and specifically the
Speaker 1: first five roster spots, we're thinking that this is a lock.
Speaker 1: Malik Turner is making a case for himself. Who else
Speaker 1: do you guys see on this roster ninety man roster
Speaker 1: that maybe on the outside looking in, but they're making
Speaker 1: a case for themselves. And Danny, I'll start with you.
Speaker 1: I think I think a name that people that's been
Speaker 1: doing well at camp then maybe people have forgotten about
Speaker 1: is Maurice Kennedy because he opted out last year. And
Speaker 1: I think the addition of some of these defensive backs
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys brought in really sparked a fire under
Speaker 1: a lot of those guys and just kind of really
Speaker 1: going out and taking advantage of the opportunity at camp.
Speaker 1: And so I think that's a name. I mean, we
Speaker 1: talk about maybe not having full confidence in the depth
Speaker 1: and the secondary just because a lot of new pieces
Speaker 1: have been added or a lot of younger players are
Speaker 1: coming off injury, and so I think that's not really
Speaker 1: set on whose first or second string or third or fourth.
Speaker 1: I think it's a little more open than maybe in
Speaker 1: the past, and I think Maurice Kennedy is a name
Speaker 1: that might be pushing his way into the into that range. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's definitely one of the names. And I
Speaker 1: kind of have a broken down by position. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, to your point at the receiver position, right
Speaker 1: one through five, is pretty much locked, right, and I
Speaker 1: think you can really really kind of still of a
Speaker 1: toss up. Are you gonna bring six? Right? And if
Speaker 1: you bring six? Okay? Well, now one of these guys
Speaker 1: have to beat out Noah Brown, right, including the draft peak.
Speaker 1: So Simmi Bohoco, you like a Malik Turner. Malie Turner
Speaker 1: has experienced in the league. This is not somebody who's
Speaker 1: brand new hasn't touched the field. The boy got experienced,
Speaker 1: and he has experienced in the areas that Simmi might
Speaker 1: not be that experienced in in terms of special teams, right,
Speaker 1: So he's gonna have to go out there and show
Speaker 1: that he can. He can do that because everybody who's
Speaker 1: playing receiver can catch the ball, right, So what the
Speaker 1: things they're gonna be asking them to do? Blocking and
Speaker 1: them special teams. When you start looking at the safeties,
Speaker 1: I want to see Israel Mukuam. I want to see
Speaker 1: Reggie Robinson and what all those guys gonna do. Right.
Speaker 1: Israel is a converted corner, right, big boy, he got
Speaker 1: some foot he got some footwork. Can he go out
Speaker 1: there and make some plays? Can he lay the hat?
Speaker 1: Because this defense is gonna be fast and physical. You
Speaker 1: start looking at the corners, Nashan right, right e, mister
Speaker 1: Ihonda himself, right, Kennedy, what are those guys gonna do?
Speaker 1: Are they gonna come out there and put some hands
Speaker 1: with some guys? Even though the coverages are gonna be
Speaker 1: pretty basic, it's still gonna be what they like, man coverage.
Speaker 1: Can we come out there and put some put some
Speaker 1: pressure on them at the line of scrimmage and linebackers.
Speaker 1: You're hearing, you're hearing. Luke Gifford's balling out right. You
Speaker 1: got Bernard and was here all last year. That nobody
Speaker 1: knows what he can do. We've heard good things for
Speaker 1: him in camp in practice, right, but we don't know
Speaker 1: what he could do in the game. And a defensive line.
Speaker 1: I want to see Bradley and I we haven't seen that.
Speaker 1: We haven't seen the boy in the year, right, we haven't.
Speaker 1: We didn't see him all last year. That boy got
Speaker 1: a nice check all last year and just chilling, right,
Speaker 1: just chilling. Now he has to go out there and
Speaker 1: be honest with you. This is his time to earn
Speaker 1: that check then he got last year. In this preseason
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna try to veer off a little bit
Speaker 1: from just players names, and you listed a bunch of
Speaker 1: guys and Leek Turner being one of them to me
Speaker 1: being another one of them. But the rest of the
Speaker 1: guys that you name were defensive guys. Dan Quinn, we
Speaker 1: just the first time we get a chance to see them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the first time we get a chance to
Speaker 1: see you in all lives. Is going to be if
Speaker 1: we're If we're being honest, no one's really worried about
Speaker 1: us offensively, as long as that comes back a little
Speaker 1: bit healthy and we'll get more into that Dak situation
Speaker 1: a little bit later onto the show. But offensively we're
Speaker 1: set zeke Amari, you know, CD, we're good, Tyrn, we're straight.
Speaker 1: But dan Quinn, this is we're we're looking at you,
Speaker 1: dan Quinn. This is now as well as the other
Speaker 1: guys who are going out there for their audition. I
Speaker 1: know that dan Quinn has skins in the game, but
Speaker 1: you always got no skins here and what this defense
Speaker 1: was last year. We're looking for a vast improvement quickly,
Speaker 1: because that was my that was my next quest. Look, so,
Speaker 1: so what are you guys looking for from the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty Cowboys defense to the twenty twenty one cowboy defense
Speaker 1: and this is visible immediate impact of Dan Quinn. What
Speaker 1: are you looking for in that defense? I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: this is preseason, but what are the signs for what
Speaker 1: you And I'm letting you finish your point because you
Speaker 1: were actually going into that question. So what are you
Speaker 1: looking for for me? I'm looking for assignment alignment football,
Speaker 1: our guys actually lining up right. We saw so much
Speaker 1: last year. We saw guys lining up all over the place, confused,
Speaker 1: not knowing where they're going, busted coverages, and then once
Speaker 1: once I know that they're lined up correctly with the
Speaker 1: new scheme that's coming in, are you executing it? Are
Speaker 1: guys being where they're supposed to be? And then third
Speaker 1: and foremost, are are you making the play right? We've
Speaker 1: saw film last year where guys were standing in the
Speaker 1: gap they were supposed to be in and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden their brains said, you know what, let's go
Speaker 1: to the other gap. And they go to the other
Speaker 1: gap and a guy comes writing the gap there was
Speaker 1: for four to yard touchdown or DB's missing there. Assignment.
Speaker 1: I need to see alignment assignment football and then executing it.
Speaker 1: Isaiah said it earlier being physical. Dan Quinn is a physical,
Speaker 1: physical defensive coordine that he wanted guys to be physical
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage, at the point of attack.
Speaker 1: This is the moment that you have. You've been hitting
Speaker 1: the other guys, you know, keep your guys healthy, keep
Speaker 1: your guys up. Now at the time you can go
Speaker 1: ahead and tee off. Go ahead and tee off on
Speaker 1: some of these guys and let me know that you're
Speaker 1: a physical football player. You know what a hell of
Speaker 1: line up at and you know what to do once
Speaker 1: you get there. So that's gonna be what I need
Speaker 1: to see from this defense is assigmon alignment football and
Speaker 1: being physical. So we're gonna be looking at you, dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're in the booth at the
Speaker 1: hot dog stand on the sideline. We need to see
Speaker 1: this defense look different than what we did a year ago.
Speaker 1: What about you, Danny, When you said the word confused,
Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, that's the word I was thinking of.
Speaker 1: You stole out that. It's just good' all the same age.
Speaker 1: That was so mind boggling to me last year. It
Speaker 1: was just you could see the looks of confusion out
Speaker 1: on the defense and what was so frustrating to watch
Speaker 1: was with the execution miss tackles. I just feel like
Speaker 1: they couldn't bring any any player from the offense, didn't
Speaker 1: matter what position they struggled to bring everyone to the
Speaker 1: ground or catching up with them like that, That to
Speaker 1: me was what stood out. And so I'm going to say, like,
Speaker 1: I want to see better execution with tackling and generally
Speaker 1: less confusion. Maybe a little more confidence in what they're
Speaker 1: doing would be nice. I'm excited. I'm excited more so
Speaker 1: probably to anybody else in this organization to simply be
Speaker 1: aside from mister Jones, But I know what dan Quinn's
Speaker 1: capebole of. I've been on the team. I was in
Speaker 1: Seattle when dan Quinn was there, right. Obviously we had
Speaker 1: Gus Bradley as well, but dan Quinn was a part
Speaker 1: of that staff, and I'm looking I'm so looking forward
Speaker 1: to the culture change. I'm so looking forward to seeing
Speaker 1: guys not only just not just the effort, not just
Speaker 1: the execution, not just the communication, but the confidence of
Speaker 1: these guys running around and hitting people, being disruptive. That's
Speaker 1: what dan Quinn is about. Dan Quinn wants fast, physical
Speaker 1: players that are disruptive. He wants you, he wants you
Speaker 1: just looking all over the place, not knowing what the
Speaker 1: hecks going on, because his guys are just just just fast, right,
Speaker 1: and they're relentless, and their effort doesn't stop. And every
Speaker 1: time you step on the field, you don't know who
Speaker 1: the heck to look out for it because they're all
Speaker 1: coming right. And I guess well, and so when you
Speaker 1: think that you got those guys figured out, He's bringing
Speaker 1: in subs and these boys got the same gold juice
Speaker 1: as well. So I can't wait to see just the
Speaker 1: culture change and see the response from Cowboys Nation, because
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun to watch this defense. You talk
Speaker 1: about a and I love that the culture is something
Speaker 1: that Isaiah that you harp one, you know, and we've
Speaker 1: talked a lot about that, and we've also talked about
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, but his The pressure for this defensive coordinate,
Speaker 1: first year defensive coordinator, is immense because of the Cowboys
Speaker 1: failures last year. I mean, you're talking about a defense
Speaker 1: before Mike Nolan came in, they were probably at the
Speaker 1: median fifteen, number fifteen, sixteen in the league right sometimes
Speaker 1: finishing within the top ten. Last year, it completely fell
Speaker 1: through the floor. All right, So you bring in dan Quinn,
Speaker 1: the expectations are high, and you know, look you here
Speaker 1: coaches say it all the time. Pressure bus pipes will
Speaker 1: make diamonds, but most of the time it's just buspipes.
Speaker 1: So but but dan Quinn is in a situation where
Speaker 1: he has to have a defense that is first and
Speaker 1: foremost addicted to stop in the run because that is
Speaker 1: the first rule of defense, and not fight club, but defense. Right,
Speaker 1: you have got to stop the run, and we could
Speaker 1: not stop anyone. But what I'm looking for is the
Speaker 1: front front seven. Okay, we talked about you hear the
Speaker 1: team talk about the length that they brought in, guys
Speaker 1: like Quinn, Bohannah, urban Oci, Digizula, guys that are long
Speaker 1: that can play multiple positions. I want to see how
Speaker 1: that operates in real time. You said we're gonna keep
Speaker 1: it very simple, and you've seen that vanilla take from
Speaker 1: training camp that they're keeping it simple. But one of
Speaker 1: the things that you can't fake in even its simple,
Speaker 1: it's effort in execution and getting to the ball. So alignment, assignment,
Speaker 1: everything that you just said as well are some of
Speaker 1: the things that I'm looking for. But when I circle
Speaker 1: one particular group, it is the defensive line group. And
Speaker 1: from that group, Quentin Bohannah from Kentucky is starting to
Speaker 1: make headway in that regard. What have you guys been
Speaker 1: hearing about Bohannah from training camp as well? I've been
Speaker 1: hearing that he's a dog. I mean, he's a big boy, right.
Speaker 1: But you know to your point, you know, when you
Speaker 1: line up and you play these preseason games, everybody's running
Speaker 1: simplified things. You're not seeing office alignment, doing a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of passing off and all the j you're not
Speaker 1: seeing stunts. They're gonna he's gonna line up, He's gonna
Speaker 1: line up over a guard or a center. He's gonna say, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm coming at you, big fella, and we're gonna see
Speaker 1: can you beat somebody man, a man without schemes? Can
Speaker 1: you beat this guy that? Can you beat this other
Speaker 1: grown man? Right when you don't have a bunch of
Speaker 1: schemes that help you and give you the advantage. And
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing him transition and translate what
Speaker 1: he's been doing a camp and take it out there
Speaker 1: against somebody that he has a face before. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, I's gonna say someone for his it's
Speaker 1: like three thirty. Like he's quick. Yeah, I mean he's big,
Speaker 1: but like he's not slow by any means. And that's
Speaker 1: definitely an area that they really needed to improve on
Speaker 1: from last year. And so I think that they're hopeful
Speaker 1: in that. And I mean, they obviously drafted him with
Speaker 1: the intention right of what they needed him for, and
Speaker 1: so I'm excited to see that they actually have like
Speaker 1: a nose tackle that, you know, the size and maybe
Speaker 1: the capability, because in the past they've kind of slimmed
Speaker 1: down like what they've been looking for in nose tackles.
Speaker 1: I think that'll be different too with him and for him,
Speaker 1: you gotta understand Pittsburgh, They're gonna have some guys in
Speaker 1: that offensive line who are just as hungry as he is. Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: who notoriously has been known to have decent offensive lines,
Speaker 1: have been down for the last couple of years and
Speaker 1: they're trying to rebuild that. So they're going to have
Speaker 1: people who are matching the same energy as Big Bow
Speaker 1: and that's going to be the interesting thing is what
Speaker 1: happens now when you have to face someone else who
Speaker 1: is fighting for a job as well. Yeah, that's the difference.
Speaker 1: It's I'm telling you one thing is you know happens
Speaker 1: in training camp because we laugh, we joke, we have
Speaker 1: a good time. You're my teammate, you're teammate, We're gonna
Speaker 1: go hard. But when there's someone else who doesn't care
Speaker 1: about you at all, who like who you're standing in
Speaker 1: between them and making the team and their bread and
Speaker 1: feeding their family, that that brings a different type of dynamic,
Speaker 1: dynamic and energy and effort from guys. And we talk
Speaker 1: about this defense as a whole. But and then the
Speaker 1: reason why I said dan Quinn is because dan Quinn
Speaker 1: is on the road of redemption as well. When he
Speaker 1: was in Atlanta right as the head coach, they thought
Speaker 1: that his defense was going to be able to play
Speaker 1: better than what it did. It didn't and whether that
Speaker 1: be injuries or whatever it may be. We were looking
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, they were looking for that Seattle dan Quinny.
Speaker 1: They didn't get it. And one of the reasons why
Speaker 1: he lost his job in Atlanta because they didn't get
Speaker 1: what they thought they were going to get from dan
Speaker 1: Quinn from Seattle and Dallas is looking for that Seattle
Speaker 1: dan Quinn and right, So while these players are on
Speaker 1: the road to redemption. So it's dan Quinn. So there's
Speaker 1: a lot to be proven in these next couple of games.
Speaker 1: And tonight starts that all off. So you know he's
Speaker 1: gonna have to put a bunch out a group of
Speaker 1: out there who's gonna go out there and compete not
Speaker 1: only for their jobs. But again, dan Quinn, you're you're
Speaker 1: fighting to get your name back in the good graces
Speaker 1: of the football world. Now, Uh, you know from from
Speaker 1: your falloff a year or so ago, I love I
Speaker 1: love what you said because everyone, not only the coach,
Speaker 1: players playing for their jobs and putting the good tape
Speaker 1: out there for other opportunities. The same can be said
Speaker 1: about coaching. Uh, these guys are doing their best, so
Speaker 1: they know that they're the eyeless guy. Don't lie. We're
Speaker 1: watching everything and all of your schemes. And again, when
Speaker 1: you talk about the Cowboys, you talk about the cowboy defense.
Speaker 1: I like to relate to what David Hellman said about
Speaker 1: David Hellman beat right, uh and from the co host
Speaker 1: of The Break talking about Quinn Bohanna being a trash
Speaker 1: can full of dirt, a guy that's just gonna sit
Speaker 1: in that middle. He's an immovable object. And this is
Speaker 1: what this defense needed. Last year we didn't have that.
Speaker 1: You talk about guys standing in a gap. I just
Speaker 1: saw guys just kidding, taken to the gate already gets
Speaker 1: and when you have linebackers that have they've gone down
Speaker 1: a little bit, all right, and the defensive health wise too,
Speaker 1: but the defensive line had a lot to do with
Speaker 1: that did not help those guys at all. So getting
Speaker 1: those fresh bodies, getting those package of substitute package substitution
Speaker 1: packages that we're talking about to carry this team. This
Speaker 1: imperative to me in in the preseason to see who's
Speaker 1: gonna be those guys. Who's the guy in camp that's
Speaker 1: just gotten used to going up against the same guys
Speaker 1: and know this offense, know what those plays are, and
Speaker 1: you can get off based off of that. Here we
Speaker 1: get in some new blood and so we're gonna take
Speaker 1: our first break here on hanging with the boys, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna come right back. We gotta call no no.
Speaker 1: We actually gonna have Nate owned video today. We figured
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Speaker 1: Hanging with the Boys. And you know what, Jesse, I
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Speaker 1: been out there in California and said your name one
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Speaker 1: have you? Yeah, I don't. We could have, we could have,
Speaker 1: we could have. I don't know if that helped. I
Speaker 1: feel like we dragged him really down just to bring
Speaker 1: him back up to her heart. I'm trying to bring
Speaker 1: the news from Oxnard to Jesse. That didn't do a
Speaker 1: good anyway. Well, thank you for joining us here and
Speaker 1: hanging with you. Don't want to do that. You don't
Speaker 1: you do not want to do that. I don't want
Speaker 1: to yeah, carry the seven Yeah. And he does the
Speaker 1: same thing Nates did. It's like he wasn't gonna say nothing.
Speaker 1: He's own get on the plane and the snap photos. Man,
Speaker 1: I thought that this was actually gonna be a good
Speaker 1: thing for Jesson and actually backfire. So anyway, let's get
Speaker 1: to the show and uh, position battles. Position battles are
Speaker 1: starting to take place. And you know we'd asked these
Speaker 1: questions before about cornerbacks at about the defensive lines. We're
Speaker 1: starting to see those leaders emerge. Well, guess who we
Speaker 1: have on the line right now? Who that we have
Speaker 1: the great Nate Newton and parts are known in California
Speaker 1: right now on the line. Nate, how are you, sir?
Speaker 1: I'm doing great? Man. You know I'm telling you, Uh,
Speaker 1: if the longe you mess for Jesson, the deeper depression
Speaker 1: you're gonna go into while you're still here, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to help him. Name you down that only you would
Speaker 1: not get back. I'm telling you, I'm telling you car
Speaker 1: ain't got no roof? Same is that a sun roofer?
Speaker 1: Is that just top down? I don't can't hide money,
Speaker 1: Baby hid money? N's that? Man? That's some room. You
Speaker 1: ain't got no roof, Man, ain't got no roof? What's
Speaker 1: some roof? Say? What's the room name that must be
Speaker 1: that new for it, that ain't. Yeah, that's a panoramic view. Man. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Nate, n I'm at right here, man. N
Speaker 1: I had to come getting my toes done. You know,
Speaker 1: I was gorilla. I was gorilla like, so I had
Speaker 1: to get Yeah, I told you put your feet le
Speaker 1: come on, Nate, Nick. So Nate, let's get on, come on,
Speaker 1: let's get on. And so Nate, let's talk about some
Speaker 1: of those position battles that you're seeing. We talked a
Speaker 1: lot about bo Hannah. We also talked about Noah Brown.
Speaker 1: Talk about when you're seeing out there in ox are
Speaker 1: the some of those names that we had those question
Speaker 1: marks by that guys that are solidifying themselves on this roster.
Speaker 1: Bohannah and just and Hampton, I think it is those
Speaker 1: are the two guys. Uh, they're in a battle with
Speaker 1: all veterans. You know how you have Tiger and the
Speaker 1: rest of the field where these two young guys are
Speaker 1: in battles for that base defense, first down, second down.
Speaker 1: Being able to get into the preseason and play and
Speaker 1: do it with a flare that will keep both of
Speaker 1: them on the active roster. You know, when I worry
Speaker 1: about the practice roster. Right now, we're talking about the
Speaker 1: active roster because they're talking to Will McClay and and
Speaker 1: Dan quinn. These two guys are gonna begin every opportunity
Speaker 1: to make this roster. And that's how they will make
Speaker 1: the roster. Being aware of who you are and what
Speaker 1: you're brought in here for, and that's to be run
Speaker 1: stop us first. We'll get into the pass rush and
Speaker 1: all other stuff after you to show that you can
Speaker 1: be dominant run stoppers. And talking to Will McClay he
Speaker 1: said that the Bohannan kid, they call him an old
Speaker 1: soul because he knows what he's in here to do.
Speaker 1: He's got to calm about him when he plays, and
Speaker 1: he knows that he's here to eat up bodies, to
Speaker 1: soak up stuff so that the linebackers and the extra
Speaker 1: safetists can run to the ball and run down situations.
Speaker 1: I'm tell you something gotta be brewing with Maurice Kennedy.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna be a safe there,
Speaker 1: whether he's gonna be a corner. This guy is making plays,
Speaker 1: so he's gonna be pushing somebody. Malik Turner is gonna
Speaker 1: be pushing somebody because I think the fifth round pick.
Speaker 1: The other kid, I'm eighty one. I can't pronounce his
Speaker 1: name correctly, but a draft pick. Those two guys gonna
Speaker 1: be battling. And I also asked Will McClay about Jabril Cox.
Speaker 1: I said, this kid hasn't been doing much because there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of reps in practice. I say, but
Speaker 1: in the preseason, And I say, what if you get
Speaker 1: like the kid Wilson for Seattle, the quarterback where he
Speaker 1: came in as the backup, but he played so well
Speaker 1: in preseason to all of a sudden he got projected
Speaker 1: as a starter. I say, what if that situation arises
Speaker 1: with Jabril or some of these other young guys. He said,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be weighed in heavily. So a lot of veterans,
Speaker 1: especially second year guy and third year guys that got
Speaker 1: that veteran status. But now I'm not gonna be playing
Speaker 1: much in the preseason. Don't lose your job because these
Speaker 1: guys that Jess, I wish you was out here, and
Speaker 1: I hate to say that I wish you was out
Speaker 1: here because you know and stand back and I know
Speaker 1: you coming. You will see that these guys are getting reps.
Speaker 1: All of these guys we've mentioned are getting reps. They're
Speaker 1: getting a lot of reps. So the competition is there,
Speaker 1: and by guys not playing in that first game, that
Speaker 1: could be a hindrance. N We talked about this earlier
Speaker 1: in our show, Um, the visible immediate impact of dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: When you look at what this draft was this year,
Speaker 1: this was a dan Quinn defensive draft. He had his
Speaker 1: hands on a lot of these picks. Eleven overall picks
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had in this draft, most of them on
Speaker 1: the defensive side. And while we're looking at a bunch
Speaker 1: of these players out here in the game on tomorrow, Um,
Speaker 1: are you hearing anything about, you know, the little bit
Speaker 1: of pressure being on dan Quinn and him having to
Speaker 1: show up and get this defense looking much better than
Speaker 1: the day a year ago. Oh, he's well aware of that. Man.
Speaker 1: He's where I've elevate and and I don't know his
Speaker 1: coaching style, but I've seen what he's been trying to do,
Speaker 1: especially with the interior defensive lineman Jesse. We know stand back. Heck,
Speaker 1: when we all know that it's Kurt there, I'm leaving
Speaker 1: Kurt out of k Kurt turning said Danny serect. Okay, Danny, Daddy,
Speaker 1: how you doing, young lady. These he knows that his
Speaker 1: job is to get the middle of our defensive line
Speaker 1: correct and to solve that problem because he knows that
Speaker 1: that if Bohannan and these other guys don't do their jobs,
Speaker 1: that it will still be the same. It will still
Speaker 1: be the same, averaging one hundred and thirty one hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty yards per game Russian. If you can run
Speaker 1: in the middle of a defense, you cannot stop play action, pass,
Speaker 1: You cannot stop what's happening on the outside. You don't
Speaker 1: know what's coming, You cannot dictate anything. So that has
Speaker 1: been him and Will mcclay's goal. And he's been everyday
Speaker 1: during practice and out the practice working with the interior
Speaker 1: defensive and I'm to my defensive tackles, the three technique
Speaker 1: over the guards and this one technique, zero technique over
Speaker 1: the centers. He's been working with these guys. He's been
Speaker 1: hitting sleds, hitting dummies, doing hand drills. He is forcing
Speaker 1: the issue with these young guys and and with the
Speaker 1: guys that have brought in through free agency. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: he knows this pressure, man, but I think he wants it.
Speaker 1: I think he's He's said, Nate, I got my hands
Speaker 1: back on the pulse of the team, and I think
Speaker 1: sometimes as the head coach, you have to rely on
Speaker 1: your assistants and your coordinators to keep you there. And
Speaker 1: he saying, you know what, I don't want to stay
Speaker 1: here forever as a diva's a coordinator. But I feel
Speaker 1: good again that I'm back home because this is what
Speaker 1: he says. He's he was born and bred to do
Speaker 1: an st stephensive Linda, Nate. We've seen out recently out
Speaker 1: of in training camp that Connor Williams has been taking
Speaker 1: some snaps at center under Tyler Beardish, and that's meant
Speaker 1: that Connor McGovern has gotten some snaps at left guard.
Speaker 1: What have you seen from the two of them in
Speaker 1: their respective positions out there. I've been watching more of Connor,
Speaker 1: especially when he goes to center. You know, he's okay
Speaker 1: once he snaps the ball and it's not a disaster.
Speaker 1: You know, he's inconsistent with the snapping. We all know
Speaker 1: that right there ain't gonna work in the game, so
Speaker 1: he needs the preseason. He's one of the starters that
Speaker 1: when the second unit run out at center, I hope
Speaker 1: that they let him run out with that second unit
Speaker 1: so he can get some game time, some semi bullets,
Speaker 1: as you would say, of trying to do this right here,
Speaker 1: because it's one thing that's snapping in practice, and this
Speaker 1: is another thing snapping up under the dress, and so
Speaker 1: he needs to be working on that. And to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, Number sixty six mcgovernor, yesterday was two
Speaker 1: days ago. Was the first time I looked at him.
Speaker 1: He looked okay, he looked at a little bit heavier
Speaker 1: than what he is. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: who he is, but this preseason would be big for
Speaker 1: him too. So I'll be focused a lot on the
Speaker 1: interior play of the guards and centers, you know, the
Speaker 1: nose tackling, the re tech me because if these guys
Speaker 1: here don't show great improvement, we don't show ability to
Speaker 1: stop in which I know preseason ain't real, but you
Speaker 1: gotta start somewhere, and these are the guys I'll be
Speaker 1: looking at. Nate Dog. Good to see you, man. I
Speaker 1: look forward to seeing here in about forty eight hours,
Speaker 1: my dog. But a lot of has been made of
Speaker 1: this defensive line and this whole defense in terms of
Speaker 1: trying to figure out exactly what's going on. How do
Speaker 1: we resolve the issues that we had last year? How
Speaker 1: do we resolve the issues that we have at the
Speaker 1: backup quarterback position? What is that looking like right now,
Speaker 1: especially with Dak Knight taking reps in practice as of
Speaker 1: late dead. You know, bro, you know, I want to
Speaker 1: believe that preseason would change things for these backup guys,
Speaker 1: but it better be a hundred percent change. You can't
Speaker 1: tell me come on in, sweetheart. You know that if
Speaker 1: I'm with my wife she just finished getting the toes done,
Speaker 1: you can't tell me it's nowhere in the world. I
Speaker 1: started out the most optimistic guy in the world about
Speaker 1: our backup quarterbacks. But if they can't do better than
Speaker 1: what they've been doing in practice, it's not gonna be nice.
Speaker 1: And so I don't want to say that our backup
Speaker 1: quarterback is on somebody's else ross that this time, but
Speaker 1: I will say, started with his first preseason game, the
Speaker 1: most critical position that Dave should be looking at, besides
Speaker 1: the defense interior defense, is the backup quarterback. These guys
Speaker 1: are gonna have to step up, you know, because we
Speaker 1: can't afford I wonder it's so small, we cannot afford
Speaker 1: to say, well, if dak miss won, or two games
Speaker 1: that can't happen, that can't happen. You know, that just
Speaker 1: can't happen. I mean, and I hate to be so crucial,
Speaker 1: you know, having the positive for the defensive line and
Speaker 1: all of this to come to the backup quarterback. I
Speaker 1: hope it stayed like that backup quarterback. We are. We're
Speaker 1: alive on video chat with the great Nate Newton from
Speaker 1: the s WPC Morgan Studios. And Nate, you know, you
Speaker 1: got on us about our overuse of the word dog.
Speaker 1: You got on us and you told us, look, man,
Speaker 1: you guys are using that word way too much. But
Speaker 1: I gotta talk to you about Michael Parsons, because Michael Parsons,
Speaker 1: from everything that I'm hearing coming out of Oxnard, is
Speaker 1: that he is that dog on the defense. He's looking
Speaker 1: at playing multiple positions, and I've even heard that he's
Speaker 1: out there with the green dot on his helmet calling
Speaker 1: some of the defenses for a young guy. Do you
Speaker 1: think that that is too much too soon? Or is
Speaker 1: that dan Quinn kind of just taking the training wheels
Speaker 1: off and allowing the young rookie to spread his wings.
Speaker 1: Let him spread his wings, because the games would tell
Speaker 1: us everything we know. If he does okay in the
Speaker 1: first preseason game out of having an over a year
Speaker 1: off from football, hey my hats off to him. I
Speaker 1: don't expect for him to really catch you on these
Speaker 1: things about the fourth or fifth game. And once he
Speaker 1: catches his own and gets his instincts back with the
Speaker 1: ability for the coaches to help him to read his keys,
Speaker 1: then I will start making judgments on the hint, not
Speaker 1: only him and this whole defense we were. You know,
Speaker 1: I went overboard just so I went overboard last year,
Speaker 1: just all just praising this thing. I'm not gonna do
Speaker 1: that this year. You're gonna have to show me that
Speaker 1: you are that dog, you know, and all of them
Speaker 1: on the chains. I mean, I don't big chains. I
Speaker 1: got you on a little swivel. You can break the
Speaker 1: snap at anytime you feel necessary, because I need somebody
Speaker 1: out there hungry and ready to eat. So I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna put him on big, big chains. But I just
Speaker 1: I just gotta because I saw Parsons fly around when
Speaker 1: with no pads on, and he was playing the situations
Speaker 1: in the downs, and he was lying around making a
Speaker 1: lot of plays. I see now where he's a let Hezardan.
Speaker 1: He's taking a few more steps, you know, before he
Speaker 1: get he recognizes things. But once he recognizes, he's gone
Speaker 1: in a flash. And he's still getting his hands on
Speaker 1: a few balls, but not at our interception to day.
Speaker 1: You know, he was getting the interception to day between
Speaker 1: him and Kennedy. It's like they made you wanted to
Speaker 1: go out and just say, hey, man, can we get
Speaker 1: Tom Brady so we can complete the fast because that's
Speaker 1: at the rate they was taking the ball out of there,
Speaker 1: it slowed down a little bit since they put on
Speaker 1: the pads. Well, Nate, I want to thank you for
Speaker 1: joining us on your show here and hanging with the boys.
Speaker 1: I know that we're interrupting your pedocure. Didn't want to
Speaker 1: do that, but did your show the shine of your
Speaker 1: professionalism and you coming in and joining us, Nate, thank
Speaker 1: you for sacrificing your pedocure man and coming on with us. Man.
Speaker 1: You know we appreciate your Nate. We gotta get a
Speaker 1: chance to have let you on Friday. So stay locked
Speaker 1: in with us and we're gonna take our last break
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Speaker 1: I've been doing my what the heck? And so last
Speaker 1: week we let someone take over the what the heck
Speaker 1: and then I had to smooth him soothe him over.
Speaker 1: So we're not gonna do that. I got my own
Speaker 1: what the heck this week. But my what the heck
Speaker 1: is for a guy that I think has to get
Speaker 1: more consideration for the Hall of Fame. And a lot
Speaker 1: of the beat writers and guys around here have said
Speaker 1: his name quite a bit, but Darren Woodson, Darren woods
Speaker 1: into me and now in all the barbershop conversations about hey, well,
Speaker 1: Steve Atwater's got to go in, you know, Steve Atward
Speaker 1: has got to be in there first before Darren does. Well,
Speaker 1: guess who's getting in shrine this weekend, Steve Atwaters. So
Speaker 1: that argument is moot. You can't have that. But you're
Speaker 1: talking about a guy with thirteen hundred tackles. There was
Speaker 1: no one during his reign that was like him and
Speaker 1: what he did free safety, strong safety, box linebacker, a
Speaker 1: shore tackler, and I mean a devastating tackler for the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. He's been overlooked and even sometimes I think
Speaker 1: handing his number out to certain individuals on the roster.
Speaker 1: That's got stopped because no one, if you're gonna give
Speaker 1: it to twenty eight to someone, he better be a thumper,
Speaker 1: he better be a banker. We have to look at
Speaker 1: twenty eight the same way that we look at eighty
Speaker 1: eight and some of the other numbers. But that's just
Speaker 1: my take on it. But I am saying what the
Speaker 1: heck to Darren Woodson and the Hall of Fame because
Speaker 1: this guy has got to be up for consideration asap immediately.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, and not only is Woody one
Speaker 1: of my favorite football players from yester years. What is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite people, like what he's a great
Speaker 1: dude man, so all around, Ring of honor, Hall of fame,
Speaker 1: like Wood, he deserves it all, should have it all.
Speaker 1: And I hope that happens. I hope that now that
Speaker 1: Seevatward is in there, that Wood he gets to recognition
Speaker 1: that he rightfully deserves. Yeah, whatever they're, whatever reason they're
Speaker 1: they're keeping him out, this is definitely the time they
Speaker 1: have to start saying Darren Woodson's name and putting that consideration.
Speaker 1: We'll put some respect on his name and the consideration
Speaker 1: the way that it needs you. But we we ended
Speaker 1: off talking about Michael Parsons, and I wanted to give
Speaker 1: you guys an opportunity to chime in on this as well.
Speaker 1: You don't want to hear about what the heck? No,
Speaker 1: not today, We'll we'll try that again on Friday. And
Speaker 1: time out, you know what the heck? Time out? You
Speaker 1: give me an anti take a yard. I went on
Speaker 1: the rent last week. You know that's okay, I get it,
Speaker 1: you get it, okay. But Michael Parsons, Yeah, we talked
Speaker 1: about Michael Parsons and him taking the training wheels off
Speaker 1: and him being now the guy that's taking the reins
Speaker 1: from that linebacker group in competition. Guys, do you think
Speaker 1: it's too soon or do you think he's right where
Speaker 1: it needs to be? I think. I mean it's the
Speaker 1: expectation when you go that high end the draft. The
Speaker 1: expectation is we're gonna load you up with information, We're
Speaker 1: gonna load you up with responsibility, We're gonna load you
Speaker 1: up with opportunities to become a leader, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: see how do you handle it? And that's exactly what's
Speaker 1: happening right now. They're just testing the waters. They're seeing
Speaker 1: what they have. How much can he bear? Right? How
Speaker 1: much can he bear? How much weight can we put
Speaker 1: on this? Do you know? It's like putting a bunch
Speaker 1: of putting the back back on somebody and just keep
Speaker 1: loading that thing up. At what point in time are
Speaker 1: they're gonna fail? Okay, I know where they're at. I
Speaker 1: know what they can handle, and that's what they're doing
Speaker 1: right now. Now. They will take that off. They'll allow
Speaker 1: for him to go out the run around and hit
Speaker 1: some people in the preseason a little bit, but other
Speaker 1: than that, they'll be able to be able to gauge
Speaker 1: exactly what his capacity level is, and that's what's most
Speaker 1: important for him right now. I don't see the harm
Speaker 1: in that exactly see how much he can handle that
Speaker 1: If it's a little too much early on in his
Speaker 1: rookie season, Okay, back off a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you take a linebacker that high, the intent is
Speaker 1: to have him be a leader on your team for
Speaker 1: the years to come, and so they need to start
Speaker 1: instilling that in him. And I also think that they
Speaker 1: want to make sure they have enough depth to have
Speaker 1: some versatility in those linebackers. I mean you kind of
Speaker 1: tease it earlier. HECMA like. I think this part of
Speaker 1: drafting a linebacker and giving him this responsibility is in
Speaker 1: part a wake up call for the linebackers that they
Speaker 1: have that have not had a great season or have
Speaker 1: not been able to stay healthy. And so if you're
Speaker 1: going to take a linebacker that high and the draft
Speaker 1: absolutely need to be able to make sure he can
Speaker 1: handle the responsibility in the leadership and might as well
Speaker 1: see how much he can handle early on. And in
Speaker 1: this preseason game, what you're going to see. You talk
Speaker 1: about conditioning, and we talk about football conditioning. It takes
Speaker 1: a lot to tackle another human being, right, And so
Speaker 1: people don't understand the amount of energy that is used
Speaker 1: to bring down a running back. So now I got
Speaker 1: to bring down running running back down, get off a
Speaker 1: shut off a blot, tackle them to the ground, get
Speaker 1: up and get to play from band quinn and now
Speaker 1: come back to huddle and be able to verbalize it
Speaker 1: so that they can clearly understand it, because you can't
Speaker 1: come back to the huddle and you get the call
Speaker 1: and you're like what what what? Wait the other teams
Speaker 1: in two minute drill, right, and so being able to
Speaker 1: play fast, play physical, bring another human being down a
Speaker 1: two hundred pound back or tight in or whatever it
Speaker 1: make me be. Next, get up, next play, get my
Speaker 1: play signal in, and now be able to verbalize so
Speaker 1: that the defense can fully understand what's happening. That's also
Speaker 1: a conditioning part because when you get tired, I said
Speaker 1: a little to the earlier, the first thing to go
Speaker 1: is the mental and so I need to know can
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons handle the load of being the starting middle
Speaker 1: linebacker playing, because if he's gonna play, he's gonna play
Speaker 1: sixty seventy plays a game. Can you get up every
Speaker 1: single time and not be mentally fatigued and be like, wait,
Speaker 1: what was that call? Repeated repeated, because that clock is
Speaker 1: not gonna stop. They're not gonna be like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: well wait, go ahead, Michael, Yeah, Dad could call it again,
Speaker 1: because he's not just responsible for his position. When you're
Speaker 1: playing that mic linebacker position and you're getting those plays,
Speaker 1: you're responsible for the alignment of everybody in that front seven. Right.
Speaker 1: If I'm playing Mike and he's playing in my boy
Speaker 1: Jesse's playing Will and he's a little bit too close, Hey,
Speaker 1: getting that hole. You're in that hole right, the defensive
Speaker 1: linement is not in line. I can't be so locked
Speaker 1: in on my assignment that I forget that. Guess what
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be a shade over right? Otherwise, if
Speaker 1: if he's in the hole, he's in right now, this
Speaker 1: whole play is going to heck right, I need to
Speaker 1: get you over a shade. Slap him on the butt
Speaker 1: so you see those guys slapping those dudes on the butt.
Speaker 1: It's get in the proper shade so that we can
Speaker 1: make sure we get hit our proper holes. So they're
Speaker 1: gonna see. Can he not only be focused on what
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be doing, but also be responsible enough
Speaker 1: and be cognizant enough to know what everybody else is
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing. I absolutely love everything that y'all
Speaker 1: just said, and I think I thought the same thing
Speaker 1: knowing that he's switching from Mike to Will to Sam.
Speaker 1: He's learning everything and he's getting You talk about being
Speaker 1: over getting dated right now with this defensive dan Quinn
Speaker 1: has given it to him. I think where I worry
Speaker 1: is from what Nate said. It's a guy that's been
Speaker 1: out of football for a year and a half now,
Speaker 1: and so how does he get his sea legs under
Speaker 1: him now? And real not that we're not talking about
Speaker 1: big ten, We're talking about NFL grown man an arena, right,
Speaker 1: and so he has a lot of pressure being placed
Speaker 1: on him. But however, based off of what we've been
Speaker 1: seeing from training camp, he's living up to those expectations.
Speaker 1: He is a tone setter for this defense, whereas you
Speaker 1: got a lot of veteran guys in that mixed ind
Speaker 1: in that group that are not able to match what
Speaker 1: he's doing as far as a tone setter right and
Speaker 1: do and as a defensive coordinator, as a coach, that's
Speaker 1: veteran players. When you see a young guy out there
Speaker 1: competing and doing those things, do you say, well, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, where's the rest of our guys? Or do
Speaker 1: you do you again, like I said, hand him the
Speaker 1: reins and say it's yoursla buddy. But this is the
Speaker 1: next step, right, because practice is one thing, absolutely the right.
Speaker 1: Practice is what I can stop. It's a controlled environment.
Speaker 1: We could play over again. I can correct on the field.
Speaker 1: Coaches right behind you. This is the next step, right,
Speaker 1: This is now I want to see can you take
Speaker 1: that to the to the game field and live action
Speaker 1: where they're actually consequences, because there's no more you know,
Speaker 1: you run by a guy, you hit him on a hip,
Speaker 1: Oh I got you. But that's that's not the playing.
Speaker 1: You can't do that anymore. You can't run by and
Speaker 1: just say oh that's a sack. No, no, no, you
Speaker 1: have to bring him to the ground. Practice just keeps
Speaker 1: going right, right, yeah, So now that it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if you if you made a tack or now practice
Speaker 1: next play. This is this is consequence based football now.
Speaker 1: And so for Michael Parsons, and there's well as the
Speaker 1: other guys, but Michael Parsons in general, this is the
Speaker 1: next step. You compete it well in training camp, you've
Speaker 1: done some great things of practice. Now if you get
Speaker 1: in the game and it all goes to hell. Now
Speaker 1: we got to rethink this again. Now we got to
Speaker 1: start from square one again and say, all right, well,
Speaker 1: where did we go wrong? What happened here? And kind
Speaker 1: of you know, go from there. This is the progression
Speaker 1: that you need to see Michael Parsons take. So this
Speaker 1: game is huge for him. It's huge for him because
Speaker 1: you want to see is it just because we've seen
Speaker 1: it before. I've played with a bunch of weight room
Speaker 1: warriors and a bunch of you know, practice kings. Then
Speaker 1: you're get in the game time and that tail get
Speaker 1: tucked and and and you and you whip Burnton to
Speaker 1: the sideline. So this is the next progression for Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons and others, but specifically him of saying, all right,
Speaker 1: not only am I a dog in practice, I'm a
Speaker 1: dog in the game. And you can add whatever you
Speaker 1: need to add on my shoulders because they're wide enough
Speaker 1: and strong enough for me to take it on and
Speaker 1: be successful. Now we got another dog that we got
Speaker 1: to talk about. And this guy is all everything that
Speaker 1: I'm seeing coming out of Oxnard with eighty eight on
Speaker 1: its highlight real worthy. And let me frame the question
Speaker 1: like this, because I want to know what you guys
Speaker 1: ask former wide receivers in the NFL. What are your
Speaker 1: expectations in the second year for a guy like Ceedee
Speaker 1: Lamb that you're seeing right now? He is man like
Speaker 1: you talk about playmaker. It is all over him in
Speaker 1: some of the highlight real moments that he's having for camp.
Speaker 1: But talk about the effects that a healthy dack and
Speaker 1: a coach like Kelen Moore can have on Cede Lamb
Speaker 1: in his second season. Yeah, for CD, I just want
Speaker 1: to see him move the chains, move the chains, big play, right,
Speaker 1: move the chains, move the chains, big play, make the
Speaker 1: plays that you're supposed to make, make those tough catches,
Speaker 1: those contested catches, and then guess whatever, so often I
Speaker 1: need you to have explosive play. Right. You still you
Speaker 1: still got you still got Coop over there, Right, you
Speaker 1: still have some other dudes that can ball, so you
Speaker 1: don't have to bear the weight of the entire offense. Right,
Speaker 1: But I want to see him get in there and
Speaker 1: be physical right with his blocking. And then I also
Speaker 1: want to see him just be consistent, be consistent as
Speaker 1: that player, and I think if he's consistent through the
Speaker 1: first half of the season, I think the second half
Speaker 1: season you'll see him explode and do some crazy things.
Speaker 1: I feel like we almost had like an unknowing cap
Speaker 1: on him because and Callamore even alluded to it in
Speaker 1: one of his recent press conferences, just as a rookie
Speaker 1: with a shorten offseason to real training camp, they kind
Speaker 1: of just kept him mostly in the slot, and that's
Speaker 1: just out the window. He's just going to be all
Speaker 1: over the field this year, and I feel like we
Speaker 1: don't even know what he can really do because I
Speaker 1: just feel like all he's done is trend upwards, and
Speaker 1: he's taken everything that's been thrown at him, and he's
Speaker 1: just succeeded so far throughout his rookie season and this
Speaker 1: training camp going into year or two that I feel
Speaker 1: like we're not even prepared for what we're going to
Speaker 1: see out of CD this year. They called me the
Speaker 1: voice of reason on this show because and I love
Speaker 1: what I see from CD. I love the progression that
Speaker 1: I see from CD. There's film out now right his
Speaker 1: rookie season coming in the COVID year, preseason, all that
Speaker 1: kind of nonsense. There was no film, and so it
Speaker 1: was kind of like taking the league by storm. Now
Speaker 1: there's film. Now you're a target. Now guys are looking
Speaker 1: for you. For me with CD, I don't even care
Speaker 1: about this week or preseason, nothing like that. I cannot
Speaker 1: wait until next week when the Rams come to town Saturday,
Speaker 1: that's Saturday Saturday, whenever they do live practices, because now CD,
Speaker 1: people are talking about you. People know you. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to You're gonna have to stand in front of
Speaker 1: Jail and Ramsey. And now that's what I want to see.
Speaker 1: I want to see now when now that you're a target,
Speaker 1: there is no more you walking up on folks and
Speaker 1: they don't really know what to get from you. They
Speaker 1: didn't seeing you for a whole season. You didn't got
Speaker 1: some you know, you didn't got some little as Jason
Speaker 1: Garry say, a little little issue and neck. Now guys
Speaker 1: are saying, oh, I let's go. I want to see
Speaker 1: the response from that, and so I think CD is
Speaker 1: going to be really good. I think having Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: outside is really significant because it takes the pressure off
Speaker 1: you having to be the star when I mean, the
Speaker 1: star is when the def it stars you, when the
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator says, hey, we're building our secondary in our
Speaker 1: our our rotation around eighty eight. I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not tampering expectations. I just want people to understand,
Speaker 1: once people get filmed on you, once people figure kind
Speaker 1: of thing that you'd like to do, it changes a
Speaker 1: little bit. And Amari had not CD had inconsistencies with
Speaker 1: catching the football last year, making some of the spectacular
Speaker 1: sportsener catches, but the easy routine ones he dropped. And
Speaker 1: so that has to be the next step that he takes.
Speaker 1: You gotta make the routine look routine, and you got
Speaker 1: to make the un routine look routine. And when you
Speaker 1: do that on a consistent basis with the target on
Speaker 1: your back, that's when you enter that superstar status. That's
Speaker 1: when you get talked about as being in the top
Speaker 1: tier receivers across the board. It looks great in camp, right,
Speaker 1: And again, I'm not taking anything away from our dbs,
Speaker 1: but when when when when you got to go up
Speaker 1: again to Jayla Ramsey and when you got to go
Speaker 1: up against you know, those other dogs. Now that makes
Speaker 1: me feel a little bit more confident and comfortable that
Speaker 1: people have teen filming you four year How do you
Speaker 1: come back and make yourself better than you were a
Speaker 1: year ago. I get your point, but I won't let
Speaker 1: you damper my excitement or my hope for him. Danny,
Speaker 1: don't worry about that. There's a reason why I'm wanted
Speaker 1: that practice this weekend. No, and look, and where I
Speaker 1: thank you guys. The caveat to that and where I
Speaker 1: believe that the mulligan has to be given to him
Speaker 1: is the quarterback carousel love last year? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: how do you be how do you become a great
Speaker 1: wide receiver in this league when you go through four
Speaker 1: or five different quarterbacks in a season, And so it's
Speaker 1: making the spectacular routine and just the routine spectacular. Those
Speaker 1: are some of the things that got mixed up because
Speaker 1: there were balls everywhere. We're talking in the break about
Speaker 1: you know you you were talking about a quarterback and
Speaker 1: through to you us just like I have no no
Speaker 1: ball's chance in hell of actually catching this ball. And
Speaker 1: CD went through a lot of that, and you saw
Speaker 1: how they tried to use him, lining him up in
Speaker 1: the slot and trying to create those mismatches I think
Speaker 1: they stay with that. You can move him out to
Speaker 1: the outside, but his visibility on this offense through Kelly Moore,
Speaker 1: which is explosive by stretching the stretching the field. I
Speaker 1: just think Cede Lamb can be so much more in
Speaker 1: Kelly Moore's offense as that weapon that you know that
Speaker 1: you have, and you bring up Coop Michael Gallup as well.
Speaker 1: The weapons that Kelly Moore has, it's unbelievable because if
Speaker 1: you look at the rest of them, I mean that
Speaker 1: Dak has. Because look, if you look at any other
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league, if they had, like your top
Speaker 1: five quarterbacks had this wide receiver group or it's the
Speaker 1: reason why the Week one matchup is what it is,
Speaker 1: Tampa versus Dallas, because the two of the most highly
Speaker 1: potent offenses in the league almost did a Hollylujah dance. No, No,
Speaker 1: that's absolutely I mean, you're absolutely right. But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying as far as the matchups, when you look at
Speaker 1: what we have versus other teams, Look, man, Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 1: is a guy that you said, once defensive coordinators start
Speaker 1: to circle an under line and highlight a guy like him,
Speaker 1: what do you do with the rest of the weapons
Speaker 1: that you have. Oh and by the way, we have
Speaker 1: a number twenty one by the name of Zeke. You know,
Speaker 1: so with all of that attention being played on the outside,
Speaker 1: inside you may be able to take advantage of that.
Speaker 1: So look, ceedee Lamb to me is gonna be far beyond.
Speaker 1: I think the salphomore Jinx is not even to be
Speaker 1: considered for a guy like him. But in this preseason, guys,
Speaker 1: just wrapping this show up, what are something Obviously we
Speaker 1: talked about the players that we wanted to watch, but
Speaker 1: just from the holistic overall view, what are some of
Speaker 1: the things that you are looking for in this Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame game from the Dallas Cowboys nor only we're
Speaker 1: dealing with third, fourth, and fifth string guys. I'm watching
Speaker 1: special teams. Yeah, I'm watching special teams. It's the third
Speaker 1: of the game that people don't like to talk about.
Speaker 1: People just take for you know, take for granted. It's
Speaker 1: very important. Right, there's a there's a punter battle going
Speaker 1: on as well, Right, the punters are battling it out,
Speaker 1: So that change of possession is very important, right that
Speaker 1: that field, that field possession is very important. How many
Speaker 1: are we gonna have some gunners that we can really
Speaker 1: rely on. Are there guys that can go down there
Speaker 1: enforce fair catches? Do we have some guys that can
Speaker 1: get off the block, you know, shed blocks on the
Speaker 1: interior on a punt and be able to go down
Speaker 1: there and cover those you know, can guys change directions?
Speaker 1: You know, everybody's gonna be all amped up? You know
Speaker 1: what it is? Yes, you guys are running down there
Speaker 1: one hundred miles an hour, and then guess what as
Speaker 1: soon as that punt return or kick return against the
Speaker 1: ball and they put one little all right, and the
Speaker 1: guys that start tripping all over themselves. Can you break
Speaker 1: down and go back to your to your basics and
Speaker 1: your assignments and execute the right way? Because those are
Speaker 1: going to be the things that change the game when
Speaker 1: you start playing teams like Tampa. Those are the things
Speaker 1: that make the difference that third of the game, will
Speaker 1: change the tides on who's gonna win. No LP, latisour
Speaker 1: No LP. I'm sorry, what's going on? Power powder? There is? Man?
Speaker 1: This is I got it right. Here's just what I'm
Speaker 1: not looking at. Look the notes a cover I'm not
Speaker 1: looking at JESSEEZ. I'm shut down, Betty, please help me out.
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about third and fourth string players,
Speaker 1: mostly on the defensive side of the ball, but I
Speaker 1: think offensively that offensive line. Just last you're seeing all
Speaker 1: of the starters gone except for Connor Williams and the
Speaker 1: lack of consistency or communication there. If we're not going
Speaker 1: to see the starters in the offensive line in these
Speaker 1: preseason games, I want to see how these backup, second
Speaker 1: third string players are working together as one unit because
Speaker 1: this offensive line is injury prone, don't you know. Knock
Speaker 1: on with twice. I'm not going to say anything else,
Speaker 1: but I mean I want to feel a little more
Speaker 1: confident in the depth of the offensive line going into
Speaker 1: the regular season. I just want to see guys go
Speaker 1: have fun. Like at the end of the day, training
Speaker 1: can't ota is still football. Football's fun, right, Go out there,
Speaker 1: fly around. This is the game that you've been planted,
Speaker 1: You've been a kid, and you have an opportunity to
Speaker 1: do it now at the biggest stage and make a
Speaker 1: boatload of money if you do it the right way.
Speaker 1: So I want to see guys go out there and
Speaker 1: fly around, have fun. You're you're the first out the
Speaker 1: gate for the NFL football season, like this is a
Speaker 1: big deal. Everyone will be watching, no matter his third,
Speaker 1: fourth stringers, whoever it is. People love football, People love
Speaker 1: the Steelers, people love the Cowboys. They want to see
Speaker 1: the game being played. So I'm always I'm always a
Speaker 1: guy that says, you know, respect the game and play
Speaker 1: it at a level as which is respectable. So go out,
Speaker 1: have fun, be fast, be physical, and the rest will
Speaker 1: take care of itself, you know. For me, guys, and
Speaker 1: just wrapping this up, it's the safety position. I want
Speaker 1: to watch the safety so I want to see what
Speaker 1: they do. I don't believe that because he will play,
Speaker 1: but again, the guys behind him, you know, Israel mccuomo
Speaker 1: from South Carolina. I think the a lot has been
Speaker 1: made from him and just his fluidity and what he's
Speaker 1: been able to do in OTAs and down and Oxnar.
Speaker 1: So I want to see is he that I believe?
Speaker 1: Also jay Ron Curse a guy that's special teams for Detroit.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'll be watching him and seeing what
Speaker 1: he can do. Guys like Thompson who are fighting, guys
Speaker 1: is fighting to make this team, the type of impact
Speaker 1: that they make and how serious they take the preseason.
Speaker 1: Like you said, man, if you're out there blowing and
Speaker 1: your tie, don't even look to the sideline because a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys are trying to make this team.
Speaker 1: But guys, that has been our show. And I want
Speaker 1: to thank all of you for joining us here on
Speaker 1: hanging with the boys, and for Danny Surrect and for
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