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Now just get out 65 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 5: to the ballpark and see smell here. Baseball it's got 66 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 5: to be amazing for you right. 67 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 6: Now. 68 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: Man oh, YEAH i, mean, well the first day out 69 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: In South florida was. 70 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 6: AWESOME i mean there's just nothing. 71 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: Like the, grass all the baseball sounds and. 72 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 6: Smells and then doing the same thing now you're In. 73 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: Arizona it's been really cool and trying to get as 74 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: much in AS i can on that front as. Well 75 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: with all the teams out, here it's a lot of 76 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: exciting storylines AND i think spring training always provides, them 77 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: but this year maybe it's just confirmation, bias just kind 78 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: of recency. 79 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 6: Bias BUT i think there's a lot of. 80 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 3: Unique team situations here WHERE i think there's upper level 81 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 3: prospects that could crack the opening day. ROSTER i think 82 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: in the last couple of years we've seen guys open 83 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: the door for that with spring training performance a little bit. 84 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: More AND i just think there's a lot of fun 85 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 3: things going on here that is making spring training very 86 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: entertaining to. 87 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 6: Follow, also stat cast available for. 88 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 3: Every single game is really fun from the prospect perspective as. 89 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 6: Well so it's been fun one hundred. 90 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: Percent. Man, NO i just got to watch Aj ewing 91 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: with The New York. 92 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 5: METS i got to WATCH Jj weatherhold honestly a couple 93 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 5: of minutes ago with The Saint Louis, cardinals who has 94 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 5: just been a joy to watch all of. 95 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: That we are going to talk prospects. 96 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 5: And proximity big leaguers in just a little, bit BUT 97 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 5: i want to start with what's going on In New 98 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 5: york because it's really fun to speculate all winter long 99 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 5: and then have answers pretty much right. Away and we 100 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 5: don't have answers as it pertains To. Bobaschett But bobachett 101 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 5: got his first taste of third base in professional baseball 102 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 5: On saturday in The Great Fruit league, opener and it went. 103 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 5: OKAY i really don't think that you can take anything 104 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 5: in particular away from. IT i know that there was 105 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 5: a hyper clipped video of him making a throwing air 106 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 5: that actually wasn't scored on. Him it was a miscatch 107 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 5: here on the first. Baseman BUT i just want to 108 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 5: pose this to, You bobashett the third, baseman can you 109 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 5: read into any in game ground balls that he takes 110 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 5: Before february twenty, Sixth, NO. 111 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 6: I THINK i don't. 112 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: Think The mets signed him to be very good there, 113 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: Anyways BUT i think The mets have enough confidence at 114 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: over a decent period of. Time it doesn't need to 115 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 3: be great On february Or, march or it. 116 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 6: Really doesn't need to be great In. 117 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: May he has a lot of time to get comfortable, 118 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: there and he Has Francisco owen door to his left 119 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: And Marcus SEMION i guess also technically to his left 120 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: to help. HIM i think hone in on some of 121 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: the finer things, there BUT i feel like the hyper 122 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 3: analyzing of every ground, ball like that's how we saw 123 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: some backfields. Footage, yeah AND i had perfect Timing peyton 124 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: where he's not fielding those balls with a ton of. 125 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 3: Intent he's just getting used to the feel and the look. 126 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: There AND i think people are very much overreacting to 127 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: how he is picking the ball over. 128 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 6: There he's a guy that. Look is he a good? 129 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: Shortstop not, really but he's gotten by at shortstop for 130 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 3: a while. NOW i think he can Get by at 131 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 3: third base as, well once he gets. Comfortable it seems like. 132 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 5: It, honestly it seems like the bigger question for The 133 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 5: mets Isjor Hee polanco at first, base because that's entirely 134 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 5: foreign to. Him but we'll talk about another guy getting 135 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 5: acclimated at first base a little bit later on in the. 136 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 5: Program but the met infield is interesting because they obviously 137 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 5: prioritize run, prevention and that's how they spend the entire. 138 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 2: Winter we talked over the. 139 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 5: Holidays chances are you were at the dinner table On 140 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 5: christmas night or On New Year's eve and you talking 141 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 5: about The met defense and how they got a heck 142 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 5: of a lot. Better and, oh Maybe Luis roberts in 143 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 5: the fold and center field up the, middle surely With 144 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 5: semon And, lindor but the corners are going to be a. 145 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 5: QUESTION i just don't think it's fair until you have 146 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 5: a large enough. Sample AND i like that you brought Up. 147 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 5: May you might not have the large enough sample By. 148 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 5: May it just depends how many Opportunities bashett. Gets and 149 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 5: why can't he be better there In? July they need 150 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 5: him to be better there In october because he's going 151 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 5: to hit all season. Long you got to get, there 152 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 5: and as long as you don't make you, know as 153 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 5: long as you don't not make the play In, OCTOBER 154 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 5: i think it's totally. 155 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: Fine, However bishette And polanco may do. 156 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: Well AND i think in an effort to also just 157 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: keep the dh spot rotating a little bit, more and 158 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: a guy that was banged up with the end of last, 159 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: year right so maybe in an effort to keep him 160 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: healthy as. Well And Brett beatty's turned himself INTO i 161 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: think an above average third basement at the very, least you, 162 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: know solidly, Average so you could Have beaty playing some 163 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: third And Bashett dhings AND i think you can make 164 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: a really strong case that across the rest. 165 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 6: Of the field. 166 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: They have improved, defensively and even With polanco at first, 167 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: base a lot of confidence That polanco is gonna figure 168 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: it out and get pretty comfortable there and most likely 169 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: great out better Than Pete alonzo. Did but beyond, that 170 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: like you Put carson benj WHO i think is a 171 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: viable center fielder in right field with his, arm you 172 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: Put soto over and, left and Then Luis robert and 173 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: we've talked about with The baian is going to be 174 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: fantastic in center, field seme and And lindora is as 175 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: good as it gets In Major league baseball up the. 176 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 6: Middle and THEN i think a big part of the 177 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 6: defensive hit From. 178 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: Alvarez last year was actually just the thumb issue that 179 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: he was doing With he was a phenomenal receiver before. 180 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: THAT i think this defense is gonna be better Whether 181 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: bishett is bad or close to. Average and you do 182 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: have the fallback, of, Well bishett CAN dh once or 183 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: twice a, week and you, can you, know say that 184 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: in the name of preserving his, health but also less 185 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 3: than the blow maybe of the defensive side of things with. 186 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 6: Him but, again he has so much. Time, YEAH i. 187 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 5: Want to pivot to the other burrow, here AND i 188 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 5: know that we're going to have a leg question about 189 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 5: somebody else a little bit later on in the. Show 190 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 5: but it was amazing to See Aaron judge's first taste 191 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 5: of spring training baseball this year result in a multi homer. 192 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 5: Game and For judge it was a, straightaway no doubt 193 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 5: shot to dead, center and then it was a pitch 194 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 5: that was destined for his chest that he somehow flicked 195 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 5: inside the. 196 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 2: Left field foul. 197 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 5: Pole he is, Superhuman AND i don't want to like 198 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 5: open the can of worms of how good is he 199 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 5: and the pantheon of all Time yankees and players in, 200 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 5: general BUT i just want to open us up to 201 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 5: the opportunity to appreciate what this guy, does because this 202 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 5: is not only The Yankee, captain this Is Captain america 203 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 5: in a week and a, half two weeks in The 204 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 5: World Baseball, classic and the fact that he's setting the 205 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 5: tone this early for The yankees in, spring he may 206 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 5: put up that kind of year where he's getting better 207 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 5: from HIS mvp In Roger merris record breaking. 208 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 6: SEASONS i, think you. 209 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 3: Know barring, health and this isn't even necessarily a, comparison 210 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 3: ALTHOUGH i Know peter actually put out a pretty compelling 211 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: video on our social as a about The bonds to judge. 212 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 3: Comparison the only Reason i'm bringing this up is that 213 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 3: is in the way that we Saw bonds, progress AND 214 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: i know you could, say, oh, well he had some 215 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 3: help doing. That that, Aside bonds got better and better 216 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 3: and better and better. 217 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 6: Because he mastered his. 218 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: Swing and then from that point forward it was just 219 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: approach and accumulating knowledge and just understanding how teams are 220 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: going and you're gonna get pitched to for the rest 221 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: of your career and just mastering. That but the thing 222 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 3: THAT i think reminds me so much Of bonds With 223 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: judge at this point is going to see one to 224 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: two pitches a game that are hit able and it's. 225 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 6: Gone it's automatically. 226 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 3: Gone and it's the same thing now like we see 227 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 3: him picking up where you left up and spring. Training 228 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: this guy has mastered his. SWING i think it's very 229 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: rare that he's going to get out of, sorts and 230 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 3: even when he, does it seems like he can kind 231 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: of get himself back. THERE i know we've seen some postseason, 232 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: stretches but even THAT i think is like an information 233 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 3: period that he's now built on and not even really 234 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: going to look back at it and really have much 235 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: of that stretch. Ever, again to, me It's bonds like 236 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 3: where his approach is just, mastered his swing is, mastered 237 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: and he is never going to miss a mistake, essentially 238 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 3: AND i think when you're built like, that and you 239 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: could also hit some of the tough pitches, Too like you, 240 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: mentioned he's gonna be set up for these fifty plus homer, 241 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: seasons barring health gear in year. 242 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 5: Out we've got a little under a minute, here SO 243 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 5: i just want you to answer. Quick but you, know 244 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 5: at the peak Of trout and really at the peak Of, 245 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 5: judge you could teach a college class on how to 246 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 5: get this guy. 247 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: Out but there was a. 248 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 5: Way are we running out of ways to Get Aaron 249 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 5: judge out in a baseball? 250 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: Game, yeah BECAUSE i think it's get him to chase 251 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 3: and he's not gonna do, that and then in the 252 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 3: zone he's gonna destroy the. Baseball so you either have 253 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: to get him a whiff three times in the zone 254 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: or get him to, chase which he doesn't, do and 255 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 3: pick your. Poison either gonna walk him or you're gonna 256 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 3: make one pitch that he ends up leaving the yard. 257 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 5: With AND i Know peyton brought up this point on 258 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 5: a previous, episode like you have to get him on 259 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 5: the first. Pitch you have to get ahead oh, one 260 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 5: and it's really hard and he's willing to pounce on 261 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 5: that first. 262 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: Pitch so that's Your New york. 263 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 5: Update we're gonna give you Some World Baseball classic news 264 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 5: in a moment as a pertains to maybe the best 265 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 5: pitcher on the planet and the guy that is going 266 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 5: to Front teen USA's. Rotation that's coming up in a 267 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 5: sec right here on The Just Baseball. Show Just Baseball show, 268 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 5: continues as, always is brought to you By BETT mgm 269 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 5: or reminder to make it a. Legendary we just talked 270 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 5: About Aaron, judge a guy who is going to go 271 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 5: play For TEAM. Usa we do know That tigers Ace 272 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 5: Trek schoobel is going to play For TEAM, usa but 273 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 5: there's a. Caveat he's going to play for them. Once 274 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 5: Derek scooble will make one. Start this is according To 275 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 5: Cody stavenhaggen of The athletic does a great job covering The. 276 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 5: Tigers he will make one start in THE, wbc it 277 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 5: will likely come in pool, play and then he'll go 278 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 5: back To lakeland to join The tigers in their. Camp schooble, said, 279 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 5: quote if they go to the, FINALS i Think i'm 280 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 5: gonna try and lobby to just go watch and be 281 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 5: with the. Guys and that of course indicated that his 282 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 5: start will be in pool. Play that's a tweet that 283 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 5: we put out at JUST Bb. Media So Trek schooble 284 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 5: will throw in The World Baseball, classic but it seems 285 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 5: like the final is Mister skens at this, point and 286 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 5: you're gonna have to rely on some of the other. 287 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 5: Arms Joe ryan just hit the shelf with a lower back. 288 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 5: Issue So nolan McLain your, show, dude. 289 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 6: He's gonna get a. Shot AND i think it's gonna 290 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 6: be really. Fun you, know this is. 291 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 3: UNDERSTANDABLE i think for a lot of, reasons it's gonna 292 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 3: be a contract year For. Schooble we just had the 293 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: most you, know CONTENTIOUS i think garbetration case of THAT 294 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: i can. 295 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 6: Remember and it's also. 296 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: A big year ahead for The tigers that are clearly 297 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 3: all in on winning it this. YEAR i think it 298 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: reminds me a little bit of when we were in 299 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: high school playing summer ball, tournaments and like for the 300 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: really serious, tournaments there'd be some really good local pitchers 301 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: that we wanted to bring. 302 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 6: Up they'd come, up make one start and go. 303 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 3: Home but that's reserved for the nasty guys that would 304 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: just come and then. 305 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 6: Leave and it was, like all, right, great appreciate your. 306 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 3: Service school's got to doing, that and you know, what 307 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 3: we'll take that On TEAM, usa, Right like that's the thing, 308 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: is would you rather him not throw at all or do? 309 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 6: THIS i think for. 310 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: Pictures it's a fine gap to bridge in this constant 311 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 3: push and pull of who can, play who, can't all 312 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 3: these different. 313 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 6: THINGS i think with pitchers is the way to do. 314 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: It the silly part IS i, think Like kim having 315 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: the lobby to be, there he should absolutely be in the. 316 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 3: Dugout that almost defeats the. Purpose but that's my only 317 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: big thing. There he's already In. Florida it's Not, lake 318 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: it's not that far. Away let him go down and 319 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: go celebrate. 320 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 6: That that would be. 321 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: Silly he can, drive that's no. 322 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 5: ISSUE i just think about my club baseball days At 323 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 5: Syracuse university and sophomore through senior. YEAR i would send 324 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 5: a text to whoever was the manager of the club 325 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 5: team AND i would, Say, hey what day SHOULD i 326 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 5: come and? Pitch AND i would go show up and do. 327 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 5: That SO i Knew terrek school AND i had something in. 328 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 5: Common And i'm really Just i'm glad that it's out 329 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 5: there in the. Open that's why people don't like you. 330 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 5: Pitchers even in high. School you pos you get a 331 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 5: rap for a. Reason you just show, up pitch once and. 332 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 5: Dip it's really, NICE i will. SAY i find it 333 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 5: a little weird that this is not more. Common AND 334 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 5: i saw the reserve pitcher pool that was put out 335 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 5: By Major League baseball and by The World Baseball, classic 336 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 5: and there are some really interesting names on that reserve pitcher. 337 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 5: Pool so guys that won't throw in pool, play but 338 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 5: if their teams advance to the knockout round they can. 339 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 5: Pitch Tetsuya imai is on that list For Team. Japan 340 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 5: the guy THAT i didn't see. THAT i Think lizardo 341 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 5: is on that list For venezuela as, well Like barrios 342 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 5: is on that list For Puerto rico If i'm not, 343 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 5: Mistaken but there are like legit big leaguers that are 344 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 5: on that list that are doing the. REVERSE i understand 345 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 5: if schoobl wants to go throw, against you, know the 346 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 5: best team in their, pool like whether that's like The 347 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 5: mexico game that they have in pool play In, houston 348 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 5: he can go do that and then go back To. 349 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 5: Detroit it's just the inverse makes a lot more sense to, 350 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 5: me where you continue to build up with your team 351 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 5: and then you go throw in the knockout. 352 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: Stages BUT i just want to like pose this idea to. 353 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 5: YOU i feel like this should be a bit more, 354 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 5: common especially for pitchers that are on such a regimented 355 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 5: schedule that go throw and then come back to your. Team, 356 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 5: obviously build up with the organization is incredibly. 357 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 3: Important, YEAH i, THINK i think for the pictures side 358 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: of it more, sense because, again i'd rather see this 359 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 3: guy make a start with the you KNOW usa across 360 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: his chest than, not you, know even if it's a 361 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: unique circumstance, there AND i think IT'S i think it's 362 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: the best, setup AND i imagine that it was probably 363 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 3: based On TEAM usa wanting to pace things out where 364 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: of course you want to save your your big. Guns 365 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: but it's like the old you know approach we always talk, 366 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: about like you got to make it tomorrow, anyway so 367 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: why not pretty much guarantee, yourself guarantee yourself a victory 368 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: here and pull play When schooble's, starting at least give 369 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: yourself a really good, shot and then you've got all 370 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: of your other you, know big dogs down the line as. 371 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 3: Well so it seemed like maybe it just worked out 372 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: best with a, Schedule BUT i love that approach in, 373 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 3: general AND i hope it allows us and opens the 374 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: door a little bit more for the really talented and 375 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 3: expensive players may be expensive. 376 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 6: To ensure to still be able to get their foot 377 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 6: in the door and be a part of this. Tournament, 378 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 6: yeah it'd be really. 379 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: Cool does this change YOUR wbc pick at? All or? 380 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: No not? Really were you gonna go WITH? 381 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 6: Usa? 382 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: ANYWAYS i felt, LIKE i, MEAN i do THINK usa 383 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: is just too. Good it doesn't change, it but it. 384 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 3: Does it does make it a little bit more wide 385 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: open to, me just the idea of, like, okay you 386 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 3: gotta win two out of three and you got. 387 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 6: To go through you, Know schooble And. SCHIENS i just thought, 388 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 6: like man with the, bullpen no. 389 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 3: Way but now it's you, KNOW i GET i still 390 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: think there's a bunch of other really good. Arms but 391 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 3: there was something about the Skiing schooble duo or's, like, 392 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: no there's no, shot what are you gonna? Do, yeah 393 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: this is WHERE i think it gets a little bit. 394 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: Interesting and then also am mine For, japan that's a 395 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: game changer on the mound. THERE i think that could 396 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 3: be a guy that if that down the stretch, there 397 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: he could be a huge huge benefit for them because 398 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 3: that's another. GUY i, mean big league hitters will see 399 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 3: him soon have not seen anything like that just, yet 400 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: AND i think that's gonna be working to A mys. 401 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: Favorite do you see What Taylor tremmel said the other 402 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: day about his, splitter which isn't even his most known, 403 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 3: pitch like his best. Pitch jrammelle, Said i've been playing 404 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 3: baseball for twenty four, years however many, professionally fourteen professionally 405 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: whatever it. 406 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 6: Was, Uh i've never seen a pitch like that about. 407 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 5: Him, ekay that's a really good teammate move From Taylor. 408 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 5: Tremmell like when you can pump a guy's tires like, 409 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 5: that you know you're like getting a stake on him 410 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 5: when that starts to circulate and it's. Nice OH i 411 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 5: heard this splitter is never before, seen once in a 412 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 5: generation type of splitter and it's your third best. 413 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 2: Pitch that's. Awesome SO i love That tremell just hyped 414 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: him up like. 415 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 5: THAT i will, say like LAST, Wbc Adam wainwright started 416 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 5: a GAME i think in the knockout. STAGE i Think 417 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 5: Merrill kelly, Started, yeah started THE wbc. Final so the 418 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 5: fact that even if it's not, school but we go 419 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 5: to Like Logan webb And Matthew boyd after, skeins those 420 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 5: guys were Solidly All stars last, year so that's. Exciting 421 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 5: the other wrinkle to me is If lozardo is With 422 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 5: venezuela in the knockout, stage that could be a next level. 423 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 5: TEAM i know That Jose albarado is no longer on 424 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 5: that roster right, now but that lineup is next level 425 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 5: nasty And lizardo can beat anybody on his best. 426 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 2: DAY i know these guys don't go six, innings. 427 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 5: They, four but if you can buy four innings in 428 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 5: a knockout, GAME i continue to love This venezuela pick 429 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 5: to possibly win the whole darn. 430 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: Thing it's it's all about just a couple of hot 431 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 3: bullpen arms. Too like it doesn't have to be anybody. 432 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 3: Crazy they just got to give. You we talk about 433 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 3: like luck out of the bullpen and full big league. 434 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 3: Seasons you could if your biggest question is the, Bullpen 435 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: you got guys with, stuff why can't, they you, know 436 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 3: step up and have a nice little. 437 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 6: STRETCH i think that would be the bridge. 438 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 3: There For venezuela, Though BUT i agree they're they're they're 439 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 3: right there with with a lot of these other. Teams 440 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: it's gonna be. FUN i think it's gonna be a 441 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: lot of different teams that can make a push. 442 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 5: Here, Yeah, unfortunately a big time loss For Team venezuela 443 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 5: that we will talk about in a matter of moments 444 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 5: more at. Length Papolo lopez uh is out for the 445 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 5: year with a TORN Ucl he's gonna Undergo Tommy john 446 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 5: surgery and that will force him out of The World Baseball. 447 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 5: Classic so really unfortunate news From, pablo who is one 448 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 5: of the easier guys In Major League baseball to root. 449 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 5: For and if The Minnesota twins were to be feisty 450 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 5: in The America League, central it was in large part 451 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 5: going to be because of What pablo And Joe ryan 452 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 5: can do at the front of that. Rotation so we 453 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 5: will expand a little bit On. Pablo we'll get Arm 454 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 5: layton's thoughts as we come back on The Just Baseball. 455 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 5: Show we'll talk to you in a Sec keep it 456 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 5: locked right, here. Folks Just Baseball show, Continues jack, McMullen Arm, 457 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 5: light And peyton genis pressing all the right. Buttons he's 458 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 5: going to join us next segment for a prospect update 459 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 5: in spring training so, far but we teased it at 460 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 5: the end of the last Segment Pablo lopez out for 461 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 5: the year and likely cutting into the first half of 462 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 5: the twenty twenty seven season with a TORN Ucl pablo 463 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 5: going to Undergo Tommy john. Surgery it's incredibly unfortunate that 464 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 5: this is happening To Pablo lopez mentioned The twins. Situation 465 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 5: if they were going to be frisky and a team 466 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 5: that could finish third and compete for a wild card 467 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 5: spot in The American, league it was probably going to 468 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 5: be because Of Pablo lopez And Joe. Ryan Joe ryan 469 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 5: is headed to the shelf during spring training with a 470 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 5: lower back issue right, now but nowhere near as severe 471 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 5: As Pablo. LOPEZ i, know you got to know the 472 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 5: guy a little bit In Pablo. Lopez, yeah this is 473 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 5: a huge loss on the field and off the. 474 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 3: Field you, Know pablo had a lot of little flare, 475 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 3: ups even with how many innings he's s negally. Thrown you, 476 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 3: know over the last several, years there were there were 477 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 3: points where you wondered if this was going to pop back. 478 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 3: Up eve think A tj early in his professional. Career 479 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 3: but you, KNOW i think through spurts with The marlins 480 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 3: there would be some recurrent, things and then it seemed 481 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 3: like after the, trade and, honestly in his final year 482 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 3: With miami one hundred and eighty. Innings then after the, 483 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 3: trade he really seemed to work his way back up 484 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 3: from an innings. 485 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 6: Workload after never throwing more than one hundred and eleven. 486 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: Innings going into twenty twenty, two he threw one hundred 487 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: and eighty and twenty twenty, two hundred and ninety four 488 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 3: and twenty twenty three and one hundred and eighty five 489 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: and twenty twenty. Four but then last year Saw i'm 490 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: a little bit banged up with only, half you, know 491 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 3: almost a third of the, output and then you, know 492 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: leads into what happened this. Year here it's a SECOND 493 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: tj but at the same time pretty well spaced out 494 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 3: from the last. 495 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 6: One and at thirty years, OLD i think this. 496 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 3: Can set him up will be thirty one when he, returns, 497 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: obviously but we can set him up for a really 498 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 3: strong second half of his. Career here the interesting part 499 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 3: is just going to be with. Who and that's the 500 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 3: part that really stinks timing, wise is and probably part 501 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 3: of the reason WHY i could understand holding on To Joe. 502 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: Ryan The pablo side doesn't make as much sense to 503 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 3: hold on to him for, me especially when you know 504 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: this is a team that has at points cried. POOR i, 505 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 3: know ownership differences things like, that but he's gonna be 506 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: a free agent after twenty twenty, seven AND i know 507 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 3: you can't foresee injury like, that but he was banged 508 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 3: up last year and now you're you're in a spot 509 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: where you probably can never move, him AND i don't 510 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 3: really know what that's going to look. Like so from 511 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: a human, Standpoint pabo is one of the nicest. GUYS 512 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 3: i know. That it's been a marlin in the last 513 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: handful of, years just being. Around that was around the 514 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 3: TIME i first got my, footing and, yeah just being 515 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 3: in a big league clubhouse and everybody Loves pop from 516 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 3: the human, side, obviously just rooting for, him want to 517 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: see him back. Soon from the team side at tex 518 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 3: becaus this was a team that could be. Pesky still 519 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 3: think they. Can they have a lot of other young 520 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 3: pitchers that can plug, in but they ain't gonna Be. 521 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 3: Pablo and then on the third side for The twins long, 522 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: term this is kind of the worst case scenario given 523 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 3: the timing and where he's at with his contract. 524 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 5: Right because you run into the inability to flip him 525 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 5: for additional assets where you feel like you may be 526 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 5: falling a little bit, short but it's always going to 527 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 5: break my. Brain why they sold off so many valuable 528 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,719 Speaker 5: pieces with control in that, BULLPEN i guess maybe they 529 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 5: felt like they could flip bullpen pieces they did like 530 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 5: this soft teardown last, year AND i understand that some 531 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 5: of them were. 532 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 2: Rentals like Bat, Wise baterer was a. Rental he hit 533 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: the open. Market but Like. 534 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 5: Jackson's back In, Tampa varland is back In toronto with 535 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 5: a couple of years to. Go deron is back In 536 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 5: philly with a couple of years to. Go it was 537 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 5: just a fascinating tear down to. Me but to your, 538 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 5: point they've got irons in the, fires Like Zebe matthews 539 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 5: is a common breakout pick For. Minnesota Joe ryan's still 540 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 5: fronting that. Rotation i'm not ready to give up On 541 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 5: Taj bradley just. Yet he's still so. Young AND i 542 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 5: know That acunya hit a ball three hundred miles an 543 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 5: hour against him over the weekend In Port, charlotte but he. 544 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 6: Also punched out five over three. 545 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 5: Innings taj Did, YEAH i, mean, listen, Man i'm in 546 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 5: on a lot of the things That minnesota has right, 547 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 5: now And Mick abel is a fascinating piece to. Me 548 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 5: both guys they got in The dran deal like it's 549 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 5: gonna take you a couple of, years but At douordo 550 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 5: tayit is probably their catcher of the. Future how, okay 551 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 5: do you Think twins fans should be feeling right now 552 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 5: because it's been a really hard three hundred and sixty 553 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 5: five days for. 554 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 3: Them, yeah you, KNOW i think they should be frustrated 555 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 3: at this specific issue because of what they could have 556 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 3: potentially got For. Pablo but you, know if this was 557 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 3: something that was heading towards, happening maybe he would have been, 558 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 3: difficult you, know to pull off the trade, anyways with 559 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 3: with maybe how some of the medicals would have. 560 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 6: Looked BUT i think they should still feel pretty frustrated with. 561 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 3: That that, said there's a lot to be excited, about 562 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 3: And i'm looking at like seven names on the forty 563 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: Man rock are already pitching wise THAT i think should 564 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: get innings this, year whether it's out of the bullpen 565 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 3: or as a, starter that are pretty. Exciting by the. 566 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: Way Kendry, rojas who they got in the. Trade this 567 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: still was a little bit of head scratcher with The Blue. 568 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 3: Jays Varlin rojas looks really good, man AND i think 569 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 3: he could get up there and give them an give them. 570 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 6: Some some intriguing. 571 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: Starts by the second half of the season he was 572 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: getting like seven and a half feet of. Extension and 573 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 3: his first spring training start this past year last week 574 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 3: as a left hander. There so With Abel rojas Pre 575 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 3: Lit Morris Fest Marko ria EVEN i still think has some. 576 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 6: Intrigue there's a lot of arms there that you were 577 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 6: going to need to. 578 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 3: Audition, anyways this is not the way you want to 579 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 3: open the runway for, it BUT i mean there's gonna 580 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 3: be a lot of guys that will have the opportunity 581 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 3: to fill. 582 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: In pirate. 583 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 5: Manager last, Year Derek shelton was let go of mid. 584 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 5: Season Don kelly took. Over Don kelly is now the. 585 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: Manager the permanent manager of The Pittsburgh. 586 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 5: Pirates But Derek shelton found new footing In, minneapolis and 587 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 5: we will see What shelton could do with That Minnesota twins. 588 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 5: Team he's got two of the brighter young outfield prospects 589 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 5: In Major League baseball to work with this year and 590 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 5: likely early In Walker jenkins And Emmanuel. Rodriguez Emmanuel rodriguez 591 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 5: hit a no doubt tank a little bit, earlier AND 592 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 5: i Know Peyton genis will talk about him and plenty 593 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 5: of other guys in a prospect update through the opening 594 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 5: weekend of spring training baseball that's coming up on the 595 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 5: other side of this. Break keep it locked right here 596 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 5: on The Just Baseball. Show Just Baseball show, continues and 597 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 5: we've got PODCAST p in the. Fold Peyton genis joins the. 598 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 5: Program peyton has been consuming as much spring training baseball 599 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 5: as any human being on the, planet AND i would 600 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 5: be willing to pull receipts like if they could do 601 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 5: the nineteen eighty Four Big brother thing and just figure 602 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 5: out screen time on spring training baseball through the first 603 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 5: three or four or five days of Grape Fruit league 604 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 5: And Cactus league, ACTION i think you would be number 605 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 5: one in terms of worldwide. Rankings do you agree with that? 606 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 4: Statement My Spring training rated is going to be nuts 607 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 4: and not to re, tread and he not to retread 608 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 4: the last, segment BUT i was going to hit on 609 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 4: the twins out of the, gate BECAUSE i, MEAN i 610 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 4: think a, lot especially with the absence Of PABLO i 611 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 4: think there's four NAMES i want to touch. On one 612 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 4: is more of a wild, card but the three are 613 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 4: going to be in the big. 614 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 6: Leagues. 615 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 4: Right the first one Is Zebbie, matthews who carved up 616 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 4: some college kids using metal bats for. Fun his. Stuff 617 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 4: just he's a guy who's actually able to get some 618 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 4: pretty good zone with you, know he struggles with barrels at, 619 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 4: times but he carries a nice strikeout to walk. Ratio 620 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 4: it's kind Of Joe ryanish in that way from a profile, 621 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 4: perspective not necessarily the crazy ride, fastball but it's that 622 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 4: type of. Profile, also you Have Taj bradley shruck out. 623 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 4: Five you, Know akunya did get him for a you, 624 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 4: know a ball that he pimped and ended up being. 625 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 2: Single but it was a, single, yeah like it. 626 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 5: Was it was one of those Classic LIKE i thought 627 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 5: it was five hundred feet beyond the. 628 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: Wall so it's a single. Now BUT i will say. 629 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 5: THE, tv like the telecast did, That, no it, did 630 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 5: Did bradley's zero graces because that ball looked like it 631 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 5: left a bad at a million miles an. 632 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 4: Hour, Yeah AND i mean that is the thing With Taj, Bradley, 633 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 4: right it's two to three beautiful innings and then he 634 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 4: gets a ball gets sent for four hundred and fifty. 635 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 4: FEET i, mean that's kind of A twins thing for being. 636 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 4: Honest the pitchers they tend to develop are all like. 637 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 4: That also mick able, today man he went towed toe 638 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 4: to toe with, school shook off five over two or three, 639 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 4: innings had twelve whiffs seven seven whiffs on eight swings 640 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 4: against his fourth. Steamer i'm pretty sure debuted debuted a 641 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 4: new sweeper shape looks very. Good And kendrick Rojas, man you, 642 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 4: know kind of stuffed A kunya And Austin riley in 643 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 4: a locker and you come on like and also SO 644 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 4: i know this guy's naming, dudes but we're going through. 645 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 5: It AND. 646 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 4: Manuw, rodriguez if he stays, HEALTHY i don't understand why 647 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 4: you'd keep that dude In Saint. 648 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 3: Paul there's no point to even give him the Same 649 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: paul now like the, like, bro you should not play 650 00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 3: another game. 651 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 4: There, well here's the thing, too here's the thing too 652 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 4: Arm and maybe maybe maybe the answer to this is 653 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 4: not the ONE i think it, Is BUT i want 654 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 4: to ask you if you could guarantee health an erod 655 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 4: where are you ranking him in your top one? 656 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: HUNDRED i think WE i may have mentioned it on the. 657 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: SHOW i think if you can guarantee, health. 658 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 4: Guarantee health exactly, exactly so exactly. 659 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: You said what top, ten top, fifteen top fifteen. 660 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 3: MINIMUM i think there's a there's a case for top 661 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 3: ten if you could guarantee, health because what would see him? 662 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 3: There one hundred and thirty games looked like from him last? 663 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: Year did you imagine it. 664 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: Would have been? Incredible? 665 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 5: Yeah And Walker jenkins. TOO i mean you Had Walker 666 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 5: jenkins firmly inside the top, Fifty so you had two 667 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 5: top fifty prospects in that, outfield which is really. Cool 668 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 5: they got a lot of irons in the. FIRES i 669 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 5: want to pivot off Of minnesota some other guys that you. 670 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 5: Have do you have a Little Zaire hope action for, us, 671 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 5: because oh my. 672 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 4: God, listen. Listen Zire hope man LIKE, i he's always 673 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 4: been a. Tank we've always described him as he, could you, 674 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 4: know get a handoff take that thing for five yards 675 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 4: field prospect, Yes dodger outfield prospects out Your hope is a. 676 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 4: Tank somehow he is more of a tank now and 677 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 4: something arm is highlighted with him in the past is 678 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 4: sometimes his. Mechanics he seems to counter rotate a bit too, 679 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 4: much AND i think it may have been holding him. 680 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 4: Back he's kind of opened things up a bit in 681 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 4: the spring and he's been just terrorizing. Baseballs he popped 682 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 4: a one fourteen the other. Day he had a line 683 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 4: out that was one oh, eight and it really just 684 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 4: seems like he's going all in on the fact that, 685 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 4: Yeah i'm jacked AND i can hit balls. 686 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 5: Hard. 687 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 6: Corner, yeah forget the center field. 688 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 3: Thing that's, Okay it's gonna be a corner outfield power profile. 689 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 3: NOW i WOULD i would venture to say again he's 690 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 3: built LIKE i. Do it's it's not fair BECAUSE i 691 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 3: think he's even more. Muscular but it's like The Maurice 692 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: Jones drew build now where like IF i met him 693 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 3: in a in An oklahoma, drill all of my. 694 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 4: Limbs he's evaporating. You and for the YouTube, audience. 695 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: This is, Crazy, well this is next level, pipes like 696 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: the entire your. 697 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 4: Hope, yeah he's, listen it's safe to, say goes to the. 698 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 4: Gym that's WHAT i tweeted, Out like it's just like 699 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 4: that's a that's a that's a dude who you do 700 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 4: not want to see In oklahoma. One some other NAMES 701 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 4: i think were some other NAMES i think are pretty 702 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 4: notable to. Mention you mean you Have argentamalad a pretty 703 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 4: nice swing yesterday and uh and drove in a, run 704 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 4: had AN rbi. Single he's not a prospect and an 705 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 4: arm tweeted this. Out tristan McKenzie touching ninety, eight he 706 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 4: allot four. Runs he allot four. Runs it wasn't, pretty 707 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 4: But tristan McKenzie is at a low nineties heater ninety, 708 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 4: eight ninety, eight ninety. Eight you gotta be a little 709 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 4: bit excited about that if you're on. 710 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 6: It it was with, ride it had. 711 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 3: Life he then would spike the subsequent, pitches but, hey 712 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 3: getting the able working with. Him he was showing some 713 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 3: signs of life in the in winter ball as. WELL 714 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: i think it's noteworthy because maybe mackenzie could be pitching 715 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 3: out of the pen if they ever need to know 716 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 3: that pen's. Loaded but, like, look they're doing an irons 717 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 3: in the fire thing for the back of that, rotation 718 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: and if mackenzie's throwing ninety, eight that's another fun iron 719 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 3: to add to The, Bueller Herman marquez conversation and just 720 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 3: letting the able. 721 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 5: COOK i ask, you, yeah CAN i ask both of 722 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 5: you really what you made Of Bubba chandler's start On, 723 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 5: monday Because bubba really. Struggled Bubba chandler was inting in two, 724 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 5: thirds so we got five outs but no, hits four 725 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 5: runs because he walked four guys and obviously the subsequent 726 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 5: reliever came in and allowed some of those runs as. 727 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 5: Well But, bubba that was just a little bit. Concerning 728 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 5: AND i saw that he hit one hundred and. One 729 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 5: granted it Was february twenty, third but one hundred and 730 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 5: one was at the hitter's. Eyelid So, ARAM i want 731 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 5: to start with you just like level of concern with 732 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 5: that element Of Bubba chandler's, game if there's any because 733 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 5: it was Mid. 734 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 3: FEBRUARY i think it's just something that's gonna come with 735 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: the territory with him a little bit where when he's, 736 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 3: on he's walking nobody for five straight, starts but when 737 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 3: he gets a little bit out of sink AND i don't, 738 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 3: know it's you, know just field based or, Whatever like 739 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 3: he's just kind of that guy that will have stretches 740 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 3: WHERE i think it's it's a little bit, rough so 741 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 3: it's gonna be ride the wave type of. 742 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 6: Thing BUT i would say. 743 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 3: Minor we saw it early last year and then he 744 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 3: was able to curb. IT i think it's just another 745 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 3: reminder though that with with some of the field based 746 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: aspects for, him AND i know he's had a little 747 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 3: bit of this like elbow unique elbow circumstance in the. 748 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 6: Past, LIKE i think it's just gonna be days where 749 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 6: the ball. 750 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: Doesn't feel as great out of his, hand and then 751 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 3: there's other days where and these are gonna be more 752 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: common days where he's pounding the strike. Zone BUT i 753 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 3: think he's gonna be that kind of microwave LIKE nba 754 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: type of player where when he's, HOT i mean it's 755 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 3: it could be that way for a, while but when 756 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,719 Speaker 3: he's not shooting, well it can get a little bit 757 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 3: rough and can get too fastball. 758 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: Heavy got, You, payton didn't? You were you able to 759 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 2: get eyes on? 760 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 5: That? 761 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 4: Yes SO i watched that start. LIVE I i you 762 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 4: KNOW i had eyes on. It you, see the first 763 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 4: inning was. GREAT i think THAT'S i THINK i think 764 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 4: an important bit of context is he was sharp in 765 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 4: the first INNING i think he did issue a, walk 766 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 4: but he shrunk Out jason Di. Mingez he plays some. 767 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 4: Fastball he showed a nice change. Up he also placed 768 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 4: a very very nice slider To paul. D. Young i'm 769 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 4: pretty sure the hitter was front door. Like it was 770 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 4: really really, nice and then it just kind of unraveled 771 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 4: in the second, inning which IS i think if you 772 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 4: want to be a glass half, full you'd be, Like, 773 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 4: okay first appearance of the, year he came out nice 774 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 4: out the. Gate the sit the sit down and get 775 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 4: back up kind of threw him off a. Bit but you, 776 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 4: SEE i think a, big big thing That puppachandler that 777 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 4: arm pointed out is he did finish last year incredibly 778 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 4: well from a command. Standpoint he had zero walks in 779 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 4: his last four, starts AND i do think it is 780 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 4: improving in. 781 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 5: General, Yeah so it's funny BECAUSE i was just, thinking 782 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 5: as you were saying that if we're gonna play this 783 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 5: game With Bubba, chandler we we have to play it 784 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 5: With Yoshi Noba yamamoto as. Well And yamamoto's line in 785 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 5: his spring training start didn't look that. 786 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 2: Good but if you. 787 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 4: Watched his first st, inning. 788 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: The first inning was, unbelievable and he looked. 789 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 4: Like nolane on a. Locker it was like on This, 790 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 4: yeah it was. 791 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 5: Crazy he looked like the best pitcher on the. Planet 792 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 5: and then he comes back and he struggles on the second. 793 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 5: Inning but guess, What LIKE i watched THE mlb fast, 794 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 5: cast like the ten, minute here's what you missed in spring. 795 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 2: Training they didn't show a lick at that second. 796 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 5: Inning it was Just, yamamoto look, great we move on 797 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 5: because it was just the first. Inning we've got about 798 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 5: sixty seconds. 799 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 2: Left peyton rapid. Fire who else you got for? Us prospect? 800 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 4: Wise, Okay Ranio rodriguez number twenty four prospect FOR. Us 801 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 4: he ripped a one hundred and eight mile an hour 802 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 4: double yesterday looked very. Good tanner McDougal of The White 803 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 4: sox was sitting near one hundred and he flashed nasty 804 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 4: breaking stuff from the left. Side Ben hess was chucking 805 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 4: the grossest breaking balls all. Day today made guys look, 806 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 4: foolish And esmurel Din valdez HIT i mispronounced that one. 807 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 4: Percent it's, okay crazy backside grand slam And Connor griffin 808 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 4: continues to be the most unlucky prospect in spring. Training 809 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 4: that's my brief. 810 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 2: Rundown Connor griffin has really been swinging it. 811 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 5: Well number one prospect On Just Baseball's top one Hundred pirates. 812 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 5: Prospectus Merlyn valdez is also A pirate, prospect and Then Ben, 813 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 5: hess first round pick of The New York. Yankees so 814 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 5: plenty of prospect stuff to, watch and it feels like 815 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,959 Speaker 5: there's a guy every single spring that forces his way 816 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 5: on to a major league roster with the great spring. 817 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 5: Training just talked about it On, monday Like Jordan walker 818 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 5: with The cardinals a couple of years, Ago Anthony volpi 819 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 5: a couple of years, Ago Cam smith In houston in 820 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 5: twenty twenty. 821 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 2: Five there's always a. 822 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 5: Guy we're gonna talk about someone that's been around for 823 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,720 Speaker 5: a while in a moment right here on The Just Baseball. 824 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 5: Show Just Baseball show, Continues jack McMullen and Arm, layton 825 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 5: we just talked, about, sorry the prospects that have been 826 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 5: shining in the early goings of spring. Training but NOW 827 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 5: i want to talk about a guy that you heard 828 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 5: some rumblings about On. MONDAY i know you were At 829 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 5: dodger camp On sunday And. Monday Freddie, freeman first baseman 830 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 5: for THE La dodgers said he has what four years? 831 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 3: Left but you, KNOW i THINK i think it was 832 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 3: just a question came up and he's, LIKE i want 833 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 3: to finish on my contract here and Retired. Dodger but 834 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 3: anytime that comes, Up i'm, like all, right four years 835 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 3: now For freddy to work, With, like what is that 836 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 3: resume gonna look? 837 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 6: Like if he can keep up. 838 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 3: Even just let's say he duplicates last, year although he 839 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 3: some of the other sentiments that he had a camp 840 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 3: was about how he wasn't happy with last, year you, 841 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 3: know numbers and that when there's not a three leading 842 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 3: the batting, average he's not feeling good about. It also 843 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,919 Speaker 3: just quick thing camelback, ranch, dude we talk about it every, 844 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 3: year but that place is. Buzzing and that's you, know 845 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 3: joint joint venture, there joint spring, training you, know complex 846 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 3: between The White sox and The. Dodgers like you can 847 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 3: guess who makes it buzz but The dodgers. 848 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 6: Vibes they are. 849 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 3: Unbelievable you show, up you Get Shoe aotani thrown. Alive 850 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 3: you have you, Know Edwin diaz throwing To Freddie freeman 851 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 3: And Will smith and it's just so much. Fun and 852 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 3: then he just did the fans and you, know so 853 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 3: many people were making the trek over From japan charting 854 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 3: every hitch Of otani's LIVE bp ball strike. Location it 855 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 3: was it was a really cool. Spectacle but that was 856 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 3: the main, thing you, know of all the conversations that 857 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 3: were being had. There but it was, like it's not 858 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 3: breaking news or anything like, that but it just sent 859 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 3: me down the rabbit hole of, like all, right where 860 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 3: Can freddie finish all? 861 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 6: Time? 862 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 3: HERE i think there's no doubting he's A hall Of, 863 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 3: famer But i'm curious if he can just even, duplicate 864 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 3: WHICH i think is conservative last year's numbers for the 865 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 3: next four, years where does he stack up all time 866 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 3: for first? 867 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 6: Baseman do you think near the? 868 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 5: Top and you have to think about it in a 869 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 5: couple of different, ways AND i think it's funny BEFORE 870 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,760 Speaker 5: i actually get into like the intricacies Of Freddie, freeman 871 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,439 Speaker 5: how that news is taken a very different way than 872 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 5: The Zach wheeler news In philly last. Year right When 873 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 5: wheeler said he was going to play out his contract 874 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 5: and be done so he had three years. Left everybody was, like, 875 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 5: what why are you leaving me on the, Bone Zach. 876 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 5: WHEELER i, mean he just had thorastic out, there like 877 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 5: there's there's a whole bunch of you, know stuff going, 878 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 5: on and that was a huge. Headline Versus, freddy, it's, oh, 879 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 5: yeah he's got four. Years that's, great that's. Awesome we love. It, 880 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,439 Speaker 5: Yeah Freddie freeman getting into the nitty gritty of him 881 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 5: has to go down probably near the top five best 882 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 5: first basement of all time when he's got four years, 883 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 5: left that it's all said and. 884 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 2: Done, NO i think. 885 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 3: SO i think it's gonna be really interesting because then 886 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 3: you get in this is where we need Like hembo 887 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 3: to talk, about you, know where he stacks up with 888 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 3: like A George sisler or some of these other. Guys 889 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,919 Speaker 3: but in terms of the modern, era LIKE i look 890 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 3: at you, know AND i know it's tough from like 891 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 3: a war, perspective because Like Miguel, cabrera you, know played 892 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 3: all a little bit all over when he was coming. 893 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 3: Up we Saw i'm at, Third we saw him in 894 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 3: the outfield a little, bit And, freddie you, know saying 895 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 3: he wants to retire with The, dodgers he could potentially 896 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 3: win another Couple World series to add to that. Resume 897 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 3: but when you look from like a war, standpoint and 898 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 3: this is By Baseball reference, War so the average of 899 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 3: twenty Five hall Of famers at the first base position 900 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,439 Speaker 3: is sixty five war. As that's What Baseball reference gives 901 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 3: me right, now And freeman's at sixty. FOUR i imagine 902 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 3: he's going to get north of, seventy and it's going 903 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 3: to put him right in the range just from a war, 904 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 3: perspective With Jim, Tomey Frank, Thomas Jeff, bagwell to name a. 905 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 3: Few but then when you start looking at some of 906 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 3: the counting, stats that's WHERE i think it gets really, 907 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 3: interesting because you, know first, baseman it's not as common 908 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 3: to get to three k, hits right you. KNOW i 909 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 3: mean you look at the guys that qualify as first 910 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 3: baseman By Baseball, reference and you're playing enough of their 911 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 3: games there it's Cap, anson it's who you know PLAYED 912 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 3: i don't even know what, years but obviously legend thirty 913 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 3: four hundred Hits. 914 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 5: Kap babson was active by the, way Cap anson was 915 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 5: active from eighteen seventy one to eighteen ninety, seven so 916 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 5: do we count. Him that's not the live ball, era 917 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 5: which began in nineteen oh. 918 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 3: One, Exactly so he really It's Apple's, Oranges Albert, Boohols Eddie, 919 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 3: Murray Miguel, Cabrera Rafael, palmerro that's. 920 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 5: It so that's the clump that he's going to fall 921 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 5: in at one, point and you laid out war like 922 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 5: if he's a five win player for the next four, 923 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 5: YEARS i, mean he falls into that clump where you 924 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 5: start to dissect the candidacy and these guys like it's 925 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 5: not A hall Of, famer not, candidacy it's a are 926 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 5: you a top five first basement of all time or not? 927 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 3: Candidacy AND i was gonna ask, you, like, look is 928 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 3: there's obviously been better players that haven't been, unanimous. 929 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 6: But, like how how high should the vote be for this? 930 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 6: Guy if he but let's say it's. 931 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 3: Four more years at three and a half to four, 932 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 3: war that's gonna put him at seventy eighty almost eighty 933 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 3: war you're gonna. Have BUT i think very realistically he's 934 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 3: gonna have three thousand hits over four hundred. 935 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 6: Homers he's not gonna BE i, know he's not gonna be. 936 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 6: Unanis but, like this. 937 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 3: Is where it gets funny to me because there's and 938 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 3: this is where the ballot aspect is so fascinating to. 939 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 6: Me he's, like why isn't that guy on everybody's ballot 940 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 6: the first? Time he's A hall Of famer by, definition. 941 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 5: That's a human error, issue that's a voter, issue and, 942 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 5: like who's actually voting for this? Award it's so funny 943 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 5: that you, know you, say why can't he be? 944 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 2: Unanimous AND i. Scoff it's, like there's no way that guy's. 945 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 5: Unanimously it's not like my standard is that high Because 946 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,439 Speaker 5: Freddy freeman's on my. Ballot shouldn't that be the case 947 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 5: if we have a bunch of like minded. Individuals But 948 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 5: i'm accounting for all of the curmudgeons that like only 949 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 5: vote For Jeff kent one. 950 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 3: Year and that's part of the reason WHY i wanted 951 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 3: to talk about this is WHEN I i think it 952 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 3: would be what ten years from now When i'll be 953 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 3: able to, vote like IF i have a ballot And 954 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 3: Freddie freeman's which actually might be this actually might be 955 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 3: the case depending on timing. 956 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 6: Here But i'm voting For Freddy freeman on my first. 957 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 6: Ballot why WOULD i? Not he's A hall Of. Famer 958 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 6: this is the part that blows my. 959 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 3: Mind but point, being like where do we draw the 960 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 3: line on like guys that should be unanimous by the curmudgeon, 961 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 3: standards because, like if he's one of the, best you, 962 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 3: know in, war WHICH i think is really impressive there 963 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 3: at the first base, position. 964 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 6: He's top three or four hits and he's. 965 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 3: Over four hundred, homers and then you have The World, 966 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 3: series you, know and with multiple, teams but you also 967 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 3: have just the way that he has been able to 968 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 3: just be steady and as. Productive it's just about. ANYBODY 969 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 3: i don't. KNOW i think it's it's just kind of. 970 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 3: CRAZY i almost feel like he's become a little bit, underrated. 971 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 6: If that's fair to. Say he's got THE, mvp you, 972 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 6: know it's a twenty. 973 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 3: Twenty he's got a lot of top five, finishes and 974 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:20,760 Speaker 3: he's good every, year. 975 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 2: And he's got three rings at this. 976 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 5: Point he's Got atlanta and then he also has two 977 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 5: with The dodgers over the last two, years. 978 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 2: So he checks all those. 979 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 5: Boxes the big thing THAT i hang up on is 980 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 5: at what point does the sanctity of unanimity become a non? 981 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,720 Speaker 5: Factor and it's probably when the next generation begins voting 982 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,720 Speaker 5: for The hall Of, fame Where Ken Griffy junior misses 983 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 5: unanimity by three, Votes, like that's. Unfair and If Ken Griffy. 984 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 5: Jr is not, UNANIMOUS i guarantee there are a couple 985 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 5: of voters that, say, well If griffy, wasn't then this 986 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 5: guy can't Be like pool holes may not be, unanimous. 987 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 2: Which is a. Joke poo holes should be. 988 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 3: Unanimous like how do you decide who doesn't vote For 989 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 3: freeman so that he doesn't get the Unanimous you conspire 990 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 3: together and, say all, RIGHT i think this is the 991 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 3: Year i'll leave him. Off, Yeah i'll leave him off this. 992 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 3: Year like that's the part THAT i don't understand. Either 993 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 3: one last, thing AND i think a really fun, wrinkle 994 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 3: especially for the old heads that'll be. Voting Freddy freeman 995 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 3: is a career three hundred hitter on The. DOT i 996 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 3: still think that's incredibly, cool no matter how you feel 997 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 3: about batting. Average to finish a career of it would 998 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 3: be twenty years in the game where he hits three, 999 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 3: hundred AND i think that's gonna be a big vocal 1000 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 3: point for him if he does. 1001 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 6: THAT i think that contributes to the case. 1002 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 2: Too we'll wrap the show, next. 1003 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 5: All, Right Tina ball on The Just Baseball show after arm, 1004 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 5: lighton just drop those bars On Freddy. Freeman, yeah if 1005 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,959 Speaker 5: he is a career three hundred hitter over twenty years 1006 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 5: in the, show that would be a sight to, behold 1007 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 5: and he should absolutely be a first ballot and hopefully 1008 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 5: unanimous when we get, there A hall Of. 1009 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 2: FAMER i want to wrap with a couple of newsy. 1010 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 5: THINGS i actually do want to start In marlins camp 1011 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 5: because they're trying to figure out first base and they 1012 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,720 Speaker 5: have a couple of irons and the fire. There Griffin 1013 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 5: conine going to play first, base likely in Early march 1014 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 5: for the first. Time you've Got Connor norby likely to 1015 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 5: get some first base reps over. There Christopher, morrell who 1016 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 5: they brought in on a free agent, deal made his 1017 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 5: first base. Debut he's played pretty much everywhere else In 1018 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 5: Major league baseball and in minor league, baseball but it 1019 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 5: was his first professional inning at first base On saturday 1020 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 5: against The New York mets In Port Saint. Lucy and 1021 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 5: this guy managed to make four or five somewhere between 1022 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 5: above average and highlight level plays at first. Base they 1023 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 5: just brought in a freak athlete and asked them to 1024 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 5: play first, base and that opens up a macro conversation to, 1025 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 5: me how easy do you think adjusting to that position 1026 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 5: can be for in athletic player like A morell or 1027 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 5: A conine or A. 1028 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 3: Derby i'm gonna use this as an opportunity to vicariously 1029 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 3: learn Through. GRIFFIN i can tell you that after this 1030 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 3: spring as, UP i think the hardest part about first, 1031 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 3: base from just talking to, guys is more just the mental, 1032 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 3: side like how do you? Know and it just through wraps, 1033 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 3: Right but like your instinct is to go try to 1034 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 3: field a ball to your, right but you don't realize 1035 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 3: that your second basement can field that. Easily now you 1036 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 3: just pulled yourself away from the back and the pitcher 1037 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 3: can't get over and cover in. Time same thing with you, 1038 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 3: know ground balls down the first base, line when do 1039 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 3: you go get? 1040 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,359 Speaker 6: It versus when does the first baseman go get? 1041 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 3: It being ready for backpicks basically any time of ball's 1042 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 3: in the, dirt being ready to be line over the 1043 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 3: first base if there's a runner, there because that's where 1044 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 3: the catcher's looking every. Time, LIKE i think those parts 1045 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 3: are probably the hardest to get comfortable with versus just 1046 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 3: fielding the. POSITION i feel, like if you're a good, 1047 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 3: athlete you've got pretty good hand. DIYE i feel like 1048 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 3: you're gonna get pretty comfortable with that, position especially when 1049 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 3: you think about some of the some of the guys 1050 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 3: who can, hit but some of the guys we look 1051 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 3: at them and they've got by at first base in 1052 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 3: their career and you're, like that's not the poster boy 1053 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 3: of like baseball, athleticism, Right, No. 1054 00:46:59,239 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 2: I'm totally with. 1055 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 5: You so it's a fascinating thing to, watch And i'll 1056 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 5: be watching it all month long and we'll certainly be 1057 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 5: reporting back other. Thing, So Kyle tucker's A dodger ohen, 1058 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 5: case he's A marlin because of The Edward cabrera. 1059 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 2: Trade so what do The cubs? 1060 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 5: Do Michael conforto on a one year deal during spring? 1061 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 5: Training arm late in your, Thoughts Michael confordo being the 1062 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 5: newest member of The Chicago cubs really underwhelming year on 1063 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 5: a big money deal with The, dodgers so much so 1064 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 5: to the point that he was left off the postseason 1065 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 5: roster during The World series run last. 1066 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 3: Year we can't do the bounce back thing with him 1067 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 3: anymore really, Right like it's just it just is. 1068 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 6: What is so he. 1069 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 5: IS i thought the first bounce back was In San, 1070 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 5: francisco and it was a real bounce, back like he 1071 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 5: looked the part of a bounce back. Player and then 1072 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 5: The dodgers tried it to the nth, degree like they were, like, 1073 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,760 Speaker 5: oh maybe we can continue to build on this bounce 1074 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 5: back and it failed. 1075 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 2: Miserably SO i JUST i have the same question as. 1076 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 2: YOU i think the answer is. 1077 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 3: NO i like it as, depth but you, know even 1078 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 3: the interesting thing is that he didn't really he didn't 1079 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 3: have like platoon splits where he could, say, oh you, 1080 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 3: know we'll just deploy him against righty's and he'll have 1081 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 3: success that. Way he actually and he has had some 1082 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 3: history of this kind of being a reverse foots. GUY 1083 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 3: i think given the trade Of casey and just the 1084 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 3: wanting to have some depth, THERE i understand the. Signing 1085 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 3: BUT i think for The, cubs their best case scenario 1086 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 3: is one That canforido's not playing that, much and he 1087 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 3: really is kind of more of that break glass for, 1088 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 3: emergency you, know depth kind of. 1089 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 6: Guy like we're. 1090 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 3: Gonna talk maybe about Like Reece hoskins signing with The 1091 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 3: guardians and it's a minor league deal and he gets 1092 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 3: one point five if he's on the major league. Roster 1093 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 3: we don't know for sure if he's gonna be on the, 1094 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 3: roster BUT i think if he, is that's a got 1095 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,280 Speaker 3: to probably makes more of an. Impact it's funny sometimes 1096 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 3: the minor league deals you look at and, say maybe 1097 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 3: that guy ends up making more of an impact than 1098 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 3: than a major league, deal WHERE i think the roles 1099 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 3: probably kind of understood. 1100 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 5: It. 1101 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 2: Frickinflorido, yeah it seems like. 1102 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 5: IT i do want to wrap with The Reez Hoskins 1103 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 5: cleveland deal Because Reee hoskins just found a home and 1104 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 5: it is a minor league deal with The Cleveland. Guardians 1105 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 5: but you mentioned makes one point five if he is 1106 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 5: on the active. Roster got about a minute, here but 1107 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 5: that fit is really good because he does buck the 1108 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 5: trend of What cleveland has on the roster already and 1109 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 5: they just need more pop. 1110 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 2: Available he certainly is pop available for. 1111 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,360 Speaker 3: Them, well you, know it wasn't great last, year but 1112 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 3: it wasn't. Bad i'm kind of shocked that he got 1113 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 3: a mino. Deal, obviously it's a unique one where he 1114 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 3: can end up making twice the league minimum. There but you, 1115 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 3: know when he was on the field in ninety, games 1116 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 3: he was the positive. Player he was a one on 1117 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 3: NINE wrc plus his entire career has consistently been above 1118 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 3: average Bat anderson that the glove is a little bit, 1119 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 3: limiting but for a team that can use all the 1120 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 3: offense that can GET i think this is a great. 1121 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 3: Fit AND i think he's gonna make the. Team one 1122 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 3: other thing really quickly. Too i've been talking About chase De, 1123 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 3: lotter saw him in spring. Training that guy is a barrel. 1124 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 3: Finder if he doesn't make the, team it's a. TRAVESTY 1125 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 3: i think he will AND i think, he's LIKE i said, 1126 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 3: before it's going to make an impact on this. Team 1127 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 3: BUT i Think hoskins is a great veteran addition to 1128 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 3: this fold to raise the floor on this offense a little. 1129 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 5: BIT i don't want to make a promise that he's 1130 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 5: going to be on the, team BUT i promise you 1131 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 5: That chase The lotter is going to be on the. 1132 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 5: Team if they don't like that's that's a, serious serious. 1133 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 5: Issue but he made his debut during the Wild Card 1134 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 5: series last. Year hed better be on that, Team so 1135 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 5: huge taking To peyton genis as always hanging out with 1136 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 5: us FOR arm late And I'm jack. McMullan really appreciate 1137 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 5: you guys watching wherever you may be consuming This apple, Podcast, 1138 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,280 Speaker 5: spotify YouTube x or live on Sports. 1139 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 2: Grid thank you all so. 1140 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,919 Speaker 5: Much we continue Our Just baseball mode with the top 1141 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 5: fifteen relievers and then we get into divisional previews a 1142 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 5: little bit later. 1143 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 2: On this. Week we will also name SOME x. 1144 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 5: Factors thank you so much for joining us and we 1145 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 5: we'll talk to you. 1146 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 3: Soon