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Speaker 1: I was watching I caught a couple minutes of a

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Speaker 1: Bulwark podcast with Tim Miller and he had Cara Swisher

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Speaker 1: on and it was a really it was then a

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Speaker 1: good conversation, and so Tim Miller at the at the

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Speaker 1: end of this they start talking about Elon musk and

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Speaker 1: Tim puts on the table. He says, well, could you

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Speaker 1: imagine a scenario where you know, SpaceX is basically nationalized?

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Speaker 1: And and Cara responded to it with an answer that

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Speaker 1: until very recently I would have agreed with, which was

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Speaker 1: come on, of course not. This is the warning. I

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Speaker 1: look at that and I imagine a democratic president coming

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Speaker 1: in January twentieth and and literally oath is taken. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna have ruffles, flourishes in the twenty one gun salute.

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Speaker 1: It's going to take about four and a half minutes

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Speaker 1: time for ten executive orders. The first one fires cash

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Speaker 1: battel seals his office.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: But I do think Elon Musk worth as of today

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Speaker 1: eight hundred billion dollars, who's sowing instability all over the world,

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Speaker 1: is that the moment there's a new president, democratic president,

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Speaker 1: SpaceX should be nationalized. The board should be removed, the

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Speaker 1: leadership should be changed because unfortunately the US space program,

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Speaker 1: which is a vital area of national securities, become yoke

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Speaker 1: to one man, and that one man is a fascist

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Speaker 1: who's the richest man in the world, a super rich Limberg.

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Speaker 1: And so when you think about things like that, the

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Speaker 1: the the imposition of the full authority of the of

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Speaker 1: the government, the full use of power right before you

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Speaker 1: hopefully have someone to restrain it, including for example, maybe

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Speaker 1: with these private prisons. But how do you how do

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Speaker 1: you think how do you think about about that?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, obviously when you nationalize things, you have

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Speaker 2: to be very very careful what you're doing and how

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Speaker 2: you do it and the precedent that you're setting. But

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Speaker 2: I absolutely agree with the sentiment, the or general sentiment

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Speaker 2: that you're expressing is that we are in kind of

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we are back where we were

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Speaker 2: in the nineteenth century, where there are excessive agglomerations of

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Speaker 2: power in both the public sector and the private sector,

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Speaker 2: and we have to figure out a way to to

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Speaker 2: to spread out the you know, the resources, and spread

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Speaker 2: out decision making and spread out wealth in a way

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Speaker 2: that enhances enhances freedom for everybody. And I think how

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Speaker 2: to do that is is going to be very tricky,

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Speaker 2: but again, we need to basically start afresh and thinking

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Speaker 2: and thinking about all of these issues, whether it be

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Speaker 2: a form of a government or for form of particular

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Speaker 2: parts of the private sector. Because I absolutely agree that

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Speaker 2: you know that we you know, there's just too much

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Speaker 2: power concentrated in too few.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna ask George if he has anything

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Speaker 1: to close out our discussion with in a moment. But

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Speaker 1: I just want to say to everybody who has joined us,

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Speaker 1: thank you, uh for uh taking time to to listen,

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Speaker 1: to engage, really urge you to support George's campaign. Uh.

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Speaker 1: George is an honorable guy, and he's a he's a

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Speaker 1: courageous guy, uh and he stood up against the wrong

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Speaker 1: for the right for a really long time now. And

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Speaker 1: and one of the things that is true for both

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Speaker 1: George and I is that on the day that Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump came down the escalator, everybody had the same position

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Speaker 1: very very few people that didn't get online, all right,

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Speaker 1: that didn't that didn't stay online, And George is one

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Speaker 1: of them. And I hope you'll take that into account.

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Speaker 1: A lot of candidates out there, But when you get

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Speaker 1: a congressman who's as smart and experienced and bringing all

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Speaker 1: right track, George is about ten congress people all wrapped

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Speaker 1: up in won and can have an enormous impact uh

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Speaker 1: on our on our country. And I think his candidacy's

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Speaker 1: very important. Uh. And I have a lot of respect

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Speaker 1: and a deep amount of admiration for him doing something

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Speaker 1: have any doubt whatsoever that he never ever ever had

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Speaker 1: any inortion to do, never what whatsoever. And he's doing

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Speaker 1: it out of love of country, He's doing it out

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Speaker 1: And it's something I really really admire. And George, I

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Speaker 1: we'll see see it later. But I just want to

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Speaker 1: about the country, or about this about this moment. And again,

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Speaker 1: thank you again very much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, And I thank you Steve for having me,

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Speaker 2: and thank you for those kind words that I think

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Speaker 2: are kind of a little excessively kind, but I appreciate

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Speaker 2: them anyway. Look, I mean, as Steve says, I never

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Speaker 2: if you had suggested that I'd be running for Congress

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Speaker 2: And it's just after after doing all the things that

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Speaker 2: haven't I didn't do enough. I mean, even the Lincoln Project,

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Speaker 2: rid of this cancer permanently. And I worked in twenty

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Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time doing that, and it just,

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Speaker 2: you know, I couldn't. I couldn't let it go. We

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Speaker 2: have to, we have to fight even harder. And this

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Speaker 2: is you know, again, as I talked about the theme

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Speaker 2: that that Steve bought up in twenty twenty America versus Trump,

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Speaker 2: it's it's never been clearer. This is our last chance.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I'm running for public office. I'm sixty

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Speaker 2: two years old. I don't want to be doing this

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Speaker 2: for the rest of my life. I can't do it

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Speaker 2: for the rest of my life. I'm never not like

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Speaker 2: thirty years in Congress.

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Speaker 1: I can't do that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to do that. I am a retired

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Speaker 2: I'm retired. I'm a retired lawyer. I should be out

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Speaker 2: in Park City skiing. That's where I actually would want

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Speaker 2: And so, you know, I view myself as kind of

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Speaker 2: a special teams player to come in and help do

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Speaker 2: what I can to you know, excise this cancer from

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Speaker 2: our body politics, body politic because we have to do it.

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Speaker 2: We have to do it. It's not an option. And

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Speaker 2: when people talk about well, we have to talk about

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Speaker 2: affordability and Trump and separately. So no, no, it's all one issue.

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Speaker 2: He is destroying he's destroying our children's futures by running

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Speaker 2: up the debt and by destroying the government. And he's

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Speaker 2: doing it because he wants power and he wants glory,

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Speaker 2: he wants his Nobel Peace Prize. There is no you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean when people say we have to pivot to affordability.

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Speaker 2: In case you no, No, it's all one thing. It's

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Speaker 2: the survival of our democracy and their survival of our

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Speaker 2: children's future. And what I hope to be able to

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Speaker 2: do is to do as much as I can to

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Speaker 2: people who want to basically fight tooth and nail without

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Speaker 2: compromise the evils of trump Ism, and then start planning,

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Speaker 2: start the America, the reconstruction so that we can get

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Speaker 2: on the road to normality again. It may take a while,

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Speaker 2: and I may not be here to see at the

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Speaker 2: end of it, because it's gonna you know, the damage

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Speaker 2: that has been done is going to take many years

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Speaker 2: to completely undo. But we're at a crossroads now, and

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Speaker 2: that's why I'm running, and that's why I really appreciate

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Speaker 2: the support that any of you can give me.

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Speaker 1: What a way to end it. George Conway, everybody, thank you,

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Speaker 1: American Patriot candidate for Congress and hopefully soon a member

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Speaker 1: of Congress. I'm Steve Schmidt. This is then I invite

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Speaker 1: blunt and direct about what is happening in this country.

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