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Speaker 1: All right. Episode four, Episode four of the Bobby Casts.

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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone. I'm your host, Bobby Bones, and Kelly Bannon

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Speaker 1: is here and as always know how to do anything.

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Speaker 1: She is. She too odd, I feel a little loud.

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Speaker 1: All right, you're good. Mike Destro is our producer. Mike

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Speaker 1: you good, good. All right. So the first time we

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Speaker 1: have like a real guest. We've had people in here,

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Speaker 1: but we haven't had anyone long form yet. So it's you.

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Speaker 1: Kelly Bannon's here. Her name is spelled funny. If you

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Speaker 1: do look it up, it's like k E L L

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Speaker 1: E I g h p p l's like that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So here's here's some of Kelly song landlocked here. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you've heard it on the show before. We might be

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Speaker 1: it might be damn Hi, we can build a sax

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Speaker 1: in the back, pick up, chucking up, don't get get off,

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Speaker 1: stop everybody on the So. Kelly walked up to my house,

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Speaker 1: which has been flooded for a while, and so, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I talked about how it's a war zone. It's bad.

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Speaker 1: It's like that's really bad. And I was telling you,

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Speaker 1: like my house is all torn up right now, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's not it's very dramatic here, like if all

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Speaker 1: the hallway is like there's nothing at all, it's hot.

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Speaker 1: It's really hot. Not to be deva. It was like,

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Speaker 1: it's okay, it's this is because I've been here one

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Speaker 1: other time and it's kind of a swanky place. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's swanky for an older building. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a cool, lofty building. And so it's hot in my bedroom,

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Speaker 1: which I'm not able to move in yet because they

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Speaker 1: have heaters and dehydrators and defibrillators. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: they have in that room. So I have heat coming

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Speaker 1: up into the room and then I have the heat

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Speaker 1: coming from the side because all the hall is torn up.

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Speaker 1: So I wake up like I had the flu. I

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Speaker 1: wake up and night sweats and or it feels like

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Speaker 1: a pie the bed, like one of the two every

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Speaker 1: time I wake up at night. So I'm sorry I

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Speaker 1: had to walk through that. But to counter that, you

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Speaker 1: do look like crap. So yeah, you know, not not

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Speaker 1: your face. I'm just saying you obviously just came from

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Speaker 1: marking out. Just the rest of you looks like crap.

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Speaker 1: That means you didn't feel any pressure that that here's

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Speaker 1: the thing, Like, Okay, so this is what girls think about?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to do you want to know what

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Speaker 1: girls think about? Why don't you tell me what I

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Speaker 1: think about? You probably do know. I was all the

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Speaker 1: time like, literally so this, I didn't have anything today

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Speaker 1: that I needed to look like an artist for which

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Speaker 1: means I didn't shower and I worked out this morning

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Speaker 1: early with my trainer, and then I had just like

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Speaker 1: a bunch of meetings but not anything where I needed

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Speaker 1: to like look pretty. And so I was like, if

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Speaker 1: I'm going to literally only shower for Bobby, wasn't what

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Speaker 1: the only show? Because No? Here's why though, because that's

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Speaker 1: like kind of like I feel weird if I like

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm trying too hard. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: I think makeup, and it would have been like only

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Speaker 1: for you, which would have been like I would have

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Speaker 1: felt awkward, felt like a first date except kind of awkward. Right,

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Speaker 1: So I just rolled up in here. Yeah, Kelly Bannon,

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Speaker 1: nasty Mike. We'll start with Mike's three questions Mike. Every

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Speaker 1: time we've had a guest in, Mike, leave to three

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Speaker 1: questions Mike. Question number one for Kelly Bannon, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: Question number one, favorite Snapchat filter, Favorite oh, like, there

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Speaker 1: he's bringing the hard stuff. Okay, I like truthfully, I

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Speaker 1: like the advertising ones a lot of times, you know,

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Speaker 1: that are like they've they've paid for them for like

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Speaker 1: a promotional purpose. Because here's the problem with the Snapchat filters.

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Speaker 1: If you do like one of the like breaths that

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Speaker 1: the girls are all into, like the flower crown or

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Speaker 1: the butterflies, then you know, you people know you need

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Speaker 1: to look pretty, And if you do like the puppy,

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Speaker 1: you could put one of those on both of us. Now. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I do like the bee, though the bee makes me

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Speaker 1: crack of didn't makes you Yeah, you can just be stupid.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, the one I don't like is the one

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Speaker 1: that looked just like me and has like the glasses

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Speaker 1: in the braces and they too. Question to last TV

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Speaker 1: show you watched? Oh gosh, oh okay. We live with

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Speaker 1: my mom right now because we're not in our house

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Speaker 1: and my mom has Fox News on all day, so

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Speaker 1: I haven't really it's not I haven't watched, but it's

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Speaker 1: like it's just Fox News all the time in the

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Speaker 1: background on I haven't watched the TV show in a minute, though,

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Speaker 1: last question, Mike d Our, producer, and your favorite boy

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Speaker 1: band in sync always really yeah, bactually started it that

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Speaker 1: finished it like they closed it out. See I I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's like the best sing me your favorite

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Speaker 1: Backstreet Boys song? Then? What what would be your favorite

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Speaker 1: Backstreet Boys song? Okay, well, okay, now that is good.

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Speaker 1: It's a good one. Wait what was that one New

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Speaker 1: Kids on the New Kids on the Block that was

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Speaker 1: like when at least like I was in early middle

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Speaker 1: school and it was soretty young for you, Mike, but

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Speaker 1: for us. But Backstreet Boys best song probably I don't

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Speaker 1: know what he does to make you cray, but obvious

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Speaker 1: make you smile. I don't have no fancy cup. Yeah

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Speaker 1: to get to you, I walk a thousand? What is

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Speaker 1: that gonna called? All I have to give? But the

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Speaker 1: best Backstree Boys song does not hold up to Gone

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Speaker 1: from in Sync and Gone wasn't even their biggest song.

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Speaker 1: But wait, you cover something? I've seen you cover something

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Speaker 1: from What do you cover or did you? Um? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. We come, We kind of come to everything

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Speaker 1: as we go. But like bye bye bye is better

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Speaker 1: than anything that that Baxter Boys put out. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be me. That's better than anything to Backstreet Boys. But

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Speaker 1: you're crazy, Yeah, even like pop pop. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: a girlfriend with nell A too friends. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: then their best song, and it wasn't even their biggest song.

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Speaker 1: But I think Gone was like the coolest song. It

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Speaker 1: was all black and white. Remember the music video video.

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Speaker 1: I actually don't remember that video. You know, the song

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Speaker 1: like the circus needs to clown. I'm not sure that

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Speaker 1: I do like a mind. Oh, this is the greatest

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Speaker 1: then Sink song ever, and you guys are totally missed.

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Speaker 1: You missed it. I don't want to. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I know it. It was late in sync. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: break off a little bit. This is instinct Gone, by

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Speaker 1: the way, Kelly Bannon's here, there's a thousand said that.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is such a great melody too. You know,

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Speaker 1: what are you talking about so long? Like this is

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Speaker 1: like justin Timberlake solo career, right before it was justin

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Speaker 1: Timberlake solo career. But he does sound like a baby though.

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Speaker 1: To me, you acting so strange, acting so strange. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I was too blood to chee that you needed a change. Well,

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Speaker 1: is it something the ship to make it turn away,

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Speaker 1: make you walk out? Andy me cold fucking just found

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Speaker 1: me to make it so that you all right here,

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Speaker 1: here we go, Mike Bissing, get you off my march

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Speaker 1: of my hardest to bee the man and be strong,

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Speaker 1: draw myself and say true read made you go, God

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Speaker 1: baby go, oh you go baby girl. Man, that was

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Speaker 1: a damn and I'm glad you did that that. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I want to go back and listen. There's more than

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Speaker 1: bye bye bye great like in stinc is great in

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Speaker 1: order of our lifetime and sink at one boy new

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Speaker 1: Gets on the block was that was such a big deal?

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Speaker 1: I was. We were so young though, I like, I

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Speaker 1: don't think we got to experience you remember girls like

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Speaker 1: like and sleep over Party is having like the VHS

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Speaker 1: vhs you have? How do you? Okay? Um, that's a tape.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those rectangled things and used to put

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Speaker 1: on your TV. He's crazy, don't worry about Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 1: google it later. Backstreet in Sync, New Kids, probably Backstreet.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you consider Boys the men a

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say they're there because they didn't dance. To

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Speaker 1: a lot of dance too. With the singing boys them

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Speaker 1: the package of a boy band has to be. You

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Speaker 1: have to be young vocalists and do a lot of dances,

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Speaker 1: a lot of dancing. So okay, I go in Sync,

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Speaker 1: New Kids, Backstreet Boys. I mean, like I was going

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Speaker 1: to ask you that those guys are really good musicians,

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Speaker 1: so I wouldn't put him in a boy band group

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Speaker 1: like I loved oh Town, who was the guy that

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Speaker 1: oh Town. And he also and there are allegations against

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Speaker 1: him for doing improper things. He created LFO like that

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Speaker 1: Ponzi scheme that was even bigger than the one that

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Speaker 1: the Bernie Madoff had. You know what does not make

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Speaker 1: stills they had, Like why would you do that? Because

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Speaker 1: never get enough? Period? Like ever, the richest people I

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Speaker 1: know are still out. It doesn't matter with money, No

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Speaker 1: one's ever just contend. I don't know anyone who just like,

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Speaker 1: I'm good to where I am. Do you know anybody

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Speaker 1: who like, Okay, you're right, You're right. Everybody's like at

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Speaker 1: What's like what people say about when the people win

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Speaker 1: relationships that they have and don't have and what they meet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know anybody that goes let me just

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Speaker 1: It's always let me just start to get a little richer.

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Speaker 1: Even you know the richest billionaires is they do that.

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Speaker 1: But with that, I play you one of the best

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Speaker 1: boy band songs of all time, But this one right here,

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Speaker 1: All or Nothing from Otown Top five boy band songs,

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Speaker 1: even though they're not one of the talk three or

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Speaker 1: four boy bands. I went and hung out. I hung

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Speaker 1: out with them in Portland for like a whole night.

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Speaker 1: Once they weren't nice to Jacob. He was one of

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Speaker 1: the guys in the band. Is a whole story. But

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Speaker 1: then's the champ. Yeah, these guys had what was that chorus? Though?

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Speaker 1: I know I know that Okay god, okay, yeah, thank you?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah that was a jam. Uh so that was fun.

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Speaker 1: Kelly Bannon's here. You have a new website that's up

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Speaker 1: and it's called This Nationale Life. Yes, it's like a blog,

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Speaker 1: I know, roll your eyes. That's where everything. No, no,

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Speaker 1: it's not that everything is going there, but it's just

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Speaker 1: hard to cut through because everybody has one. But everybody's

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Speaker 1: going there, and everyone has one, and there will be

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Speaker 1: those that thrive huge, but most won't. It's like all

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Speaker 1: of it. It's all the whole thing. It's like artists

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Speaker 1: of music and artists of of in radio and artists

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Speaker 1: of whatever. The really good ones will cut through and

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Speaker 1: go to the top. One thing that I have learned

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Speaker 1: through my lifetime is the cream always rises. Eventually, the

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Speaker 1: only want you to do this, like we really want

426
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: you to do all of this, where it could have

427
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: been that so many of my friends it happens to

428
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: and they want to bring in their own people totally,

429
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: and I honestly it did not go as badly as

430
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,479
Speaker 1: it could have, and we ended up these two companies

431
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: merged back together and so we're all back under the

432
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: same leadership. But there were like eight months where it

433
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: was like lose in charge and like what's going to

434
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: happen and everything they support you or you that you

435
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: they didn't find about you, right, that's human nature. Like,

436
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: so that song goes to thirty nine or something right

437
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 1: under top top forty, you get when do you get

438
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 1: the call that goes, okay, the song is dead? Were actually,

439
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: you know, my manager Carry and I didn't have a

440
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: manager when I honestly, I didn't have a manager until

441
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: like halfway through that because I didn't have a manager

442
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: when I got signed, and like Carry called me and

443
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: she was just like, you know, it's like it's over

444
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 1: and I don't It's very like our world, and your

445
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: world especially is so these numbers, like it is math

446
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: the way that songs make it up the charts. It

447
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: is literally math. And so what had happened is we'd

448
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: break we'd broken into the top forty, which means you

449
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 1: get all this like count downing stuff. You guys have

450
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: heard countdowns. Sorry, I'm sure you do have to countdown.

451
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: I've never heard this song before, but I have the

452
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: biggest countdown in America, by the way, for the record,

453
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 1: the country is the largest national countdown in country music. Like,

454
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: I don't care, but I'm sure it's awesome. It's it's fine.

455
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: It's a countdown that easy, the easiest. So um, So

456
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: what happens is like, so you get all these extra

457
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: plays on your song because it's in the countdown and

458
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: all these stations are playing it, if that makes sense,

459
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: and then you have to keep that forward momentum. I

460
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: think like a couple of big superstars put songs out

461
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: and they like jumped me in the charts, and we

462
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: got knocked out of the forties. And you you can

463
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: not go forward. If you stopped climbing a ladder, it's

464
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: hard to reclimb it. That what happened, and like, I

465
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: don't know. Should the song have been a hit? I

466
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: don't know, probably not, but you know I didn't hate it.

467
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: Thanks you yea? So okay, then what do you put on?

468
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: So then we put out famous? Okay, this one. I

469
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: was just into the format here, so I know this song.

470
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 1: And so this is Kelly Bannon. This song is called

471
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: famous because I'm gonna make like, yeah, you sing it.

472
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm really good. This was the one agree on.

473
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: It's so like a hundred and fifty thou singles. Yeah, okay,

474
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: here's famous. You swipped me off my things from the

475
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: moment I met you good. I want to lucky baby.

476
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: I'll let you in my heart and my heart fast

477
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: forward of the course. Just yet. I'm gonna make you

478
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: famous about you? You know, I know what your name

479
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: is this town. I'm gonna make you famous to don't

480
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: you know what those around? Yeah, I'm gonna make your

481
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: famous famous. So you put out famous. And I remember

482
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: liking that song and where did it? Where did it

483
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: pick up the char chartedby? It never charted? I think

484
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: people were Okay, it's poppy. You guys just heard it.

485
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: It is poppy, But now I mean it was, and

486
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: it was before a lot of the other stuff that happened.

487
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: That is poppy, But I just believe me. Are you poppy?

488
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah you have changed things? Yeah you okay, But like

489
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: we I just felt like, okay, yes, people are going

490
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: to be like, it's poppy, but I felt like it was.

491
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: It would be. We wouldn't have put out the best

492
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: version of the song if we'd gone back and tried

493
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: to make it country or in some It just was.

494
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: That was the recording, and I believed in that recording,

495
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: and I thought fans would love it, and they did actually,

496
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: like they bought it, and they watched the video a million,

497
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: well like two and a half million times. And but

498
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: like radio, it was just two different. I don't know,

499
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was like. It's different now

500
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: it's like totally not. It actually makes me kind of

501
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's slowly catching up. I got in trouble.

502
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: Rolling of the format was twenty years behind. I got

503
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: everybody's been saying that though in town for a million years,

504
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: like that's not did you get a little hand slap?

505
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: I don't get hand slaps, I get, but I was

506
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: really disliked in town for what I was doing with

507
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: the radio show for about a year and a half

508
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: until it was like, wow, okay, he's an artist advocate. Yeah,

509
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: you weren't just liked by artists, though you were disliked

510
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: by peep. Artists really liked you. I don't know they

511
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: liked me, but I think they appreciated that I was

512
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: going out on limbs because I don't know. It's not

513
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: like I'm but you know, I don't. I'm not sort

514
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 1: of like the Nashville buddy hood. You're not and you're not,

515
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: but you're personable like I do think they are. I mean,

516
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 1: let's real nice. I think you're a nice person. Um,

517
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: your best song to me was Smoke when I Drink. Really,

518
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't know that I play. I

519
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: used to play in the dance party, and when I

520
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: play songs in the dance party, I picked the song,

521
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: you know what. So we asked, so what happened is

522
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we asked them to put take this to

523
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: radio and they were like, you can't say smoke and

524
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: drink and I've played bottom, So we just we just

525
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: put it out digitally because I was on tour with

526
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: Cole and I had to have music out. Yeah, No,

527
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't meaning that like a name drop. I was

528
00:28:53,920 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: on the road with Darth Rooks. You know you did, yes,

529
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: but does this smoke when I drinks? I think was

530
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: your best song and they wouldn't play out Nicotina shooting

531
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: turn on down, see it only smong one a drinking

532
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: only smoke one A drinking stage moment. Keep it coming, baby,

533
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: when you feel all right, I'm tuning up the giants.

534
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: Turn you back Bay, keep telling my silver only smoke

535
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: when I drink A tempo fun listen. I mean, smoking

536
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: is gross. I don't care. The song was I don't smoke,

537
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,479
Speaker 1: and it's a metaphor, and I kind of just didn't care,

538
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,239
Speaker 1: like I don't, I didn't care. I thought this song

539
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: was so cool. I didn't care, like sometimes you're you're

540
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: just like you're as an artist and you know this

541
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: like you are, you are a lot of who you

542
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: are on stage, but you're not only who you are

543
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: on stage, and so like to me, I loved so

544
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: much about that song. I loved I love the writing

545
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: on it. Um it was cool. I loved our recording

546
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: of I was so proud of Jason, my producer. I

547
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: just I love the way it came together, and yeah,

548
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: it is a little rowdier. I what I do is

549
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: a little rowdier. Probably, it's probably a little rowdier than

550
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: I truly. My personality is I'm not super crazy like

551
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: I do like bourbon. But you know, I just I

552
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: loved that song and I thought it was a smash

553
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: and yeah, no, it was also like do you remember

554
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: that song smoking and Drinking that Mariana put out? It

555
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: was right around that time and that didn't do well either.

556
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: But so no, man, okay, that was my favorite song. Thanks,

557
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: that's nice. I didn't know that you liked that. So

558
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: then you get dropped from your label st you know,

559
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: it was here's the thing, and you and I did

560
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: have a really frank conversation about it, like don't it

561
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: don't I have nothing to do with well no, no, no, no,

562
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: I didn't mean that at all. I just mean, like, okay,

563
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: you know, when you're a priority somewhere, And they didn't

564
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: They were awesome, they didn't drop me, but I don't

565
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: know if they were going too. It was like it

566
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: was like, you know, like you've been with your boyfriend

567
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: for forever, it's like your high school boyfriend, and like

568
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: somebody's got to break up with somebody. It's like somebody's

569
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: got to Nobody wants to break up, but you want

570
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: to break up. Nobody wants to do the breaking Yeah, so,

571
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: I so, I mean, honestly, we almost It was mid

572
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: May when we finally decided we were going to put

573
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: cheap sunglasses out the EP by ourselves, because but we

574
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: also knew that the passion wasn't there anymore. And I

575
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: don't mean that as a critical thing. It's just human nature,

576
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 1: like you're not new to somebody anymore. You're not you're

577
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: not the shiny new thing, and you had your minute

578
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: to be the shiny toy. You were it didn't work out.

579
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: So to them it's like, let's find the next shine.

580
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: And it's not them, it's everyone. This is the nature

581
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: of the business. Humative businesses, all creative businesses. Everybody likes

582
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: the shiny toy. Doesn't matter if it's on TV, the

583
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: movie's music, radio. Everybody likes the shiny toy. And the

584
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: goal is to stay shiny. Yeah it's hard, it's yeah,

585
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's almost impossible. And when you don't

586
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: become shiny, you have to re shine yourself or someone

587
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: else is going to come in a movie inside and

588
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: that's in a a field. That's always the case, and

589
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: it will always be the case from now until forever.

590
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: So this isn't new, and it will be something that

591
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: happens with every artist of every If you're a painter,

592
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. Art's tough because there isn't there

593
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: aren't definitions. I have a friend who was, uh, I

594
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: have a friend that was you know, it was an artist. Okay,

595
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: I have to be careful just because I don't care.

596
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: I would tell the whole story. But my thing is

597
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 1: I don't put other people stories out there unless unless

598
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm allowed to, or it's about me. Those are my

599
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: So this friend sends me music and at one point

600
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: this friend was a big artist and they quit being

601
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: an artist for a bit, and uh, so they sent

602
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: me some music and they're like, hey, listen to what

603
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: you think. And so I just was frank and was

604
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: honest about it, and and I sent it back and

605
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: I said, listen, but I'll tell you all of this.

606
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: But none of what I say or what anyone says matters,

607
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: because with or anything creative, you just don't know. It's so.

608
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: And if anyone ever tells you that they do, they're

609
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: they're wrong. Anyone that's for sure about anything creative is

610
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: wrong because you don't know. You can have every structurally

611
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: perfect song and then all of a sudden, who let

612
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: the dogs outcomes out? I mean it's a right, I

613
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: mean really that that that's the rule of all. So,

614
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, I send this note back and I'm like,

615
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: I don't think this, this is this. I like this,

616
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: but I said, but all of this advice, or any

617
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: advice one person gives you, it's not right. The only

618
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: advice that's real is yours, and you have to follow

619
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: your gut, and then if it doesn't work, okay, then

620
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: follow your gut again until you decide it it's not

621
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, I don't think that's actually great advice.

622
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: And so it was just like just you have to

623
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: surround yourself people you trust, surround yourself for people that

624
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: aren't yes people, and then once they pile in all

625
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: of their advice, then you make your own decision and

626
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: it has to be your decision. So it's it's tough.

627
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: So okay, you go and you don't have a record

628
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 1: label anymore, so do you pay for By the way,

629
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: Kelly Bannon has a it's called Cheap Sunglasses, and you

630
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: can download it, you can stream. I would say download

631
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: it because you stream, it's staying and pay and true.

632
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: But I stream but and I download but whatever, But

633
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: it's out there cheap sunglasses. Did you do that with

634
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: your own money? Yeah? Well that was what's crazy is

635
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: I was still signed and I just was like, freak this,

636
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: I gotta I've gotta go make my I've got to

637
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: go make music. Ro I'm gonna go crazy. So I

638
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: just kind of disappeared and made it and paid for it,

639
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: paid for it yourself. Yeah. So actually, not only that

640
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: I borrowed money from my parents. That sucks, man, it's hard.

641
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel really fortunate that they loaned me

642
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: a little money. But yeah, a minute, I got to

643
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: say multiple thanks. Firing off, Mike. What am I doing? Oh?

644
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: I still hear smoke when I drink? Okay, this is

645
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: a montage. They don't go together. Apparently we might be

646
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: might be. Damn. We can feel the same to the

647
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: back to pick up. So that's on there, Mike. How

648
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: long will be in? So far? We're good, We're we're good.

649
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: We've got plenty of time. Cheap sunglasses is the name

650
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: of it. Here's cheap sunglasses, cheap sun glass. Just just

651
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: my thing palls out of fast so he didn't bike

652
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: just so away. Well, I'm a made a plastic I

653
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: don't want to be cheap sunless. You picked that song

654
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: as the title of the whole record? Why, Um, I

655
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: wrote it about leaving your label and just like making

656
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: the decision and like where I was then, and like,

657
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: I think this is for me writing that song, like

658
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: as a as a girl, as a woman in like

659
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: and I think in any entertainment business or like, you

660
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: want to be fun and you want to be pretty,

661
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: and you like want to be those things, but you

662
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: also want to be more than those things, right, Like

663
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: you don't just want to be the pretty girl along

664
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: for the ride. But so it's like that that song.

665
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: I felt like we actually did a pretty good job

666
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: of like kind of navigating that Like, yeah, I want

667
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: I want to be that girl. I don't want to

668
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: be that girl, but I also want, like I want

669
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: more than that too. Do you feel because I'm five, okay,

670
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: do you feel at thirty five? And never I've never

671
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: said that publicly, you know what I think? Kelly honestly,

672
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: and again I would just tell you the choice because

673
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: uh that I think that's an advantage now really I do, okay,

674
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: because first I don't need to go get botox because

675
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm first. No, forever it was a disadvantage to be

676
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: older than twenty three. It's just not about it's becoming

677
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: more about the actual product than it is just what

678
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: is supposed to fit. Yeah, and so the fact that

679
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: you're on it and again in at thirty two, girl,

680
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: I know girls are like, as it's not for me,

681
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: and they're artists. I know they're in the thirties. Now

682
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: they're like, I don't know if I can do. And

683
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, because this is because there aren't any like

684
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: real life human adult female artist right now. You're a

685
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: real life human female in a land where there are none.

686
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: There are none like you're You're a real life You're

687
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: not Martina McBride, someone who was a big artist back

688
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: when we were kids. You're in an area where no

689
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: other artists are. You're a real life growing up female.

690
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: You're not a teen, you're not an early twenties. You're

691
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: an adult, and there's no one in that. There's nobody there.

692
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: So as some people look at it and I just

693
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: get frustrated at at because of what it's always been.

694
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: That's what it's always supposed to be, and I just

695
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: don't think that is what I think it is anymore.

696
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: And so to me, I would rather be thirty five

697
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: than twenty eight right now, totally, even as an artist. Like, yes,

698
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: I mean if I could be my thirty five year

699
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: old self in my twenties, yeah no, yeah no, there's

700
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: no comparison. Like I couldn't go back and do that again.

701
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: I couldn't go back and do high school. I couldn't

702
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: go back and do middle school. And I would not

703
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: go back and do my mid twenties. It was it

704
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: was hard. Yeah, I like, my last three months have

705
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: been pretty good. Other than that, you know, I mean,

706
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: that's the book before that. So, um, Kelly Bannon is here,

707
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: and so she has a record out. She has a

708
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: blog on a website called This Nashville Life, and you

709
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: can check it out, and she writes and she talks

710
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: and she does all of this and you're gonna see

711
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's my advice to you. You have

712
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: to and listen to Kelly's podcast. I haven't yet listen

713
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: to one that you sent me. You did you did

714
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: listen to I told you I was going to. Well,

715
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: I just think you. I assume you like, don't have

716
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: time for the I don't. But unless I say I'm

717
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: going to do it my rule live, I don't have

718
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: time because I mean my schedule one thing against the next. However,

719
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: I put things in there are important and I said

720
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to listen to this. And I listened to it,

721
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: and I said, I think it's good, but I think

722
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: it's too long. And that was what I came back

723
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: to you with. It's almost impossible to develop following until

724
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: you do. And you have to do it so consistently.

725
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: And this is that anybody who wants to do a

726
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: podcast or a blog, you have to do it so

727
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: consistent all the time and let people every time into you.

728
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: You feel like you're beating it to death that people

729
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: are just now discovering it. For example, we do a segment,

730
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: it's our highest rated segment on our show, tell Me

731
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: Something Good. We do it every day twice a day,

732
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: and I feel like, man, how are people not tirer

733
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: of this? Every day twice a day. I'm just like,

734
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: how are And some people and people come up to

735
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: me and they're like, that's my favorite segment, Like I

736
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: listened to that segment and I'm just like, I love that.

737
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: And frankly, that segment has changed the culture of radio

738
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: in general. And that's a whole back story of how

739
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: we started it. Twelve years ago. Research said it worked

740
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: to other stations started doing it, so other stations so

741
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: now everybody does it. But for me, it's the same

742
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: thing with the podcast, like you have to do it

743
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: where you feel like you're beating it to death, and

744
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: when you're like, oh, I just don't want to do

745
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: another one, you have to do what you're thinking right now,

746
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: three more you no, why am I hearing not at all?

747
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: I want to see you succeed. And that's the key,

748
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: is just repetition and when you're tired of yourself. People

749
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: are just now discovering it. You know. That is a

750
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: creepy part of our job. Like we had video content,

751
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: like we had essentially like a music video for each

752
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: song on the on the EP, and some of them

753
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: were like more involved, like real official music videos, and

754
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: some of them were less involved. But I got to

755
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: the point where I was like, oh my gosh, people

756
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: must hate me, like I am so sick of my

757
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: face and my stuff, you know, And I get sick

758
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: of me more than anybody. Yeah, I was super sick

759
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: of myself. I get to like I don't want to.

760
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: I can't some of myself. I can't look at myself.

761
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: But again, if I'm tweeting all day, people might see

762
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: three tweets. They might see three tweets if I put

763
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: out forty tweets and and they follow me. Everyone is

764
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: so and this is everyone. Everyone is so wrapped up

765
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: in themselves that we think everyone sees what we see,

766
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: and they don't because everyone so wrapped up in themselves

767
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: that they only catch peripherally the other things. So you

768
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: just have to hit it and hit it and hit it.

769
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: Anybody creative, You have to hit it over and over again,

770
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: and it won't work seventy two times, and in the

771
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: seventy third time you'll get lucky. And all it is

772
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: is you've worked so hard to get lucky. Yeah, my

773
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: dad used to say that the harder I work, the

774
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: luckier I get. It's my career, Like I'm an overnight success,

775
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: except I've been doing this for in the mornings for

776
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: fourteen freaking years. Yeah, whit hell am I so? Yeah?

777
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: Fourteen years. I've been doing mornings like and it's a grind.

778
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: Been tired for years, for fourteen years. So you know,

779
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: I like what you're doing, and I hope you do

780
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: it consistently. Thank you. It's hard to do it consistently.

781
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: But nothing. It's you know, if if it was easy,

782
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: everybody would do it and everybody would be successful, and

783
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: and hardly anyone is. Kelly Bannon is here, by the

784
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: way in Cheap Sunglasses is the record. This is again

785
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: the song Cheap Sunglasses sust I don't like, do you

786
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: have a negative feeling about being thirty five? Like? To

787
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: me that that really sets me wrong, because you shouldn't.

788
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: I guess it's because I think you know, you've been

789
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: conditioned by this town, in this industry to think thirty

790
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: five years older, the female artist is old. You've been

791
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: conditioned to think that, and I'm telling you now it

792
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: is not old. Like I cannot wait for new show

793
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: chrome music in country like. It doesn't matter to me

794
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: if the artist is good. I don't care how old

795
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: they are. I don't care young they are. I don't

796
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: care if they're sixteen. Make a great soul, but you've

797
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: been conditioned. And I don't think that way about other people,

798
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: but I do feel I think, but it's probably back

799
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: to what you were saying. It's like you think everyone's

800
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: obsessed with you the way he CRUs with yourself, and

801
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: no one actually gives us unless you're Sam Hunt. Nobody cares,

802
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: but cares, and even I'm like, dang Sam like that Instagram.

803
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: But even that because like Sam Vogan and that here's

804
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: the frustrating part for me as a show. It's like

805
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: I don't have and Mike knows me well because Mike

806
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: and I spend most of our days together outside of

807
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: the show. Like I don't hang out with anybody, but

808
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: I know everybody and I know I know the good guys.

809
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: I know the guys that I would never hang out

810
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: within a million years, um, but that's just human nature.

811
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 1: And like Sam's a good dude. Like I like Sam

812
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: a lot, and I know stuff it like I saw

813
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: the interimbody. I knew that was immediately, and it's still

814
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: a lot that like people are arguing about it, and

815
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: I could go on the show comments that fine line

816
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: of like I know Sam, I know who that girl is.

817
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: I just there's a part of my human nous that's

818
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: like unless I talk to Sam and he's like, go

819
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: for it, I'm not gonna do it. I can't do it.

820
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: Have you always known where that line is? Because that

821
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: I still don't know where the okay, It's like, honestly,

822
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: I don't. And I think what's my biggest weakness is

823
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: my biggest strength is that I just say what I

824
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: feel like I should say, and seven percent of the

825
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: time it's right. It's a thirteen percent of time that

826
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: gets me in trouble. Has the percentage gone up? I

827
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: think I've got a little smarter and at times I've

828
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: gotten a little bolder because I know and I know

829
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: when it gets I'll do things sometimes but sometimes it's wrong,

830
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: but it's like the it is the right move. I'll

831
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: tell you an example is and I was talking about

832
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: it this morning. I did interview with Rolling Stone and

833
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: they were talking about the show and the Raging Idiots

834
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: and the comedy and the a lot of stuff, and

835
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: they were asking me what the success of the show was.

836
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: I said, listen, I am the best interviewer in radio

837
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: except for Howard Stern. Like artists come in and they

838
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm appeared to them instead of And I said it

839
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: so boldly, and I knew it was going to be

840
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: one of the heads. And if I wanted them, I

841
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: would have put it up there as the head. And

842
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: I only did it for real. Do I believe it though? Yeah,

843
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: But I also put it up there as a standard

844
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: that I feel like I have to achieve. Like I

845
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: said that now I have to keep. It's also a goal.

846
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: It's like I'm pinning it up on my board and

847
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: I walk out every day and it's like slap it

848
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: because every day you got to live up to it. Well,

849
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: that's the thing too, if it's your giftedness, like I

850
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: feel like that about even just like singing, like I

851
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: do think I'm a really really good singer, but that

852
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: doesn't mean like I still have to go out and

853
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: prove it and at night after day, like I Babe

854
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: RhoD said, the home runs you hit yesterday don't win

855
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: the games today. And so I'm full of things. But

856
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: my grandma and like books, like I love to read,

857
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: and I love read about people too, like I'm fascinated

858
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: with successful people and how they build success and the

859
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: tools that they used to be Like I'm fascinated with it,

860
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: and so that's why I do. I love people. I

861
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: love reading about people and people that I love the

862
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: faults of people and the faults or what really make humans. Well,

863
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: it's what you just said that the fault is usually

864
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: the other side of the coin to like whatever that

865
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: really unique giftednesses or like that's really really them, you know,

866
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: like that's and crazy crazy too, So let's well there's

867
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: that also. Um, well, okay, so people can hear your podcast.

868
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: What are you talking about on the podcast? Well, I'm

869
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: actually I'm really proud of it, Like, well, the first

870
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: one that came out today is called The Radio Game,

871
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: and we just sort of talk about what happened with

872
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: famous and then we also interview someone like from a

873
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: from a label that explains like how songs make it

874
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 1: up the charts. This there's an episode that's called That's

875
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: Not Country. That's about why we love to hate on

876
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: things that aren't our definition of country, Like what is

877
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: that culture about? That's what's gonna be with Shane McNally. Um,

878
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: there's an episode called Get Hot or Go Home. You've

879
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: already take all these just know we're releasing them every

880
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: two weeks where we've got to go more than that,

881
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: you know, I know you have to go, but I can't.

882
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 1: I kind of can't afford because there is a production

883
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: your parents. That's always You're right. I don't have any parents,

884
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: but if I did, I borrowed from them if they

885
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: were living right now, I'm living with my mom. I mean,

886
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: it's just really it's the five has been a bit,

887
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: but I've done my age. Like I'm like, not in

888
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: my house right now. Yeah, I know, I think you're right.

889
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: I mean, we kind of. I just because of my

890
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: schedule and working, I just I can't. And it's a high.

891
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: I don't say those two words. You can't say those words. Okay,

892
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: I know that what I know your schedule is crazy.

893
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: But what my podcast is it is a different format

894
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: than what you're doing right now, and it's just it.

895
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: I don't have the time to do it the way

896
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: that I want to any quicker than every two weeks.

897
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: I personally the way, you know what, I lose your

898
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: talk when someone tells me I can't I go. You

899
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: could if you really want to. I wanted to. You

900
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: know what, I am a super perfectionist and super competitive,

901
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: but I do think like there is a point where

902
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: you said, like, I cannot do everything. I thought I

903
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: could do everything forever you're talking to the guy. I

904
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: thought you could do everything too, and you can't. But

905
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: you have to like know and you like, I mean,

906
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: you have people that help you with some of your

907
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: stuff and have what I call a babysitter. It's a

908
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: manager in but I have a babysitter and she is

909
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: over everything that I do. Like she's not over the

910
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: radio show, but the idiots, the comedy, the books, the

911
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: um porno you know. Yeah, so there are there were

912
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: the port account, the cat, my computer h twice in

913
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: the past week. Are they hacking my Twitter? But so

914
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: you know, I have like six projects going at once.

915
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: It's a TV show, um, all these things. We have

916
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: to have people in our lives to do this. But

917
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm much more. I mean I have I do have

918
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: a team that's helping me, but I don't have the

919
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: same sort of structor. I'm really in a lot of ways,

920
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: And I mean I am creating the content myself by

921
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: myself a lot of it. So yeah, I'm trying to

922
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: do that balance of like I still want to believe

923
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: that like I need to. I'm just telling you have

924
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: to feed the people or they're just gonna go like

925
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: a what's next? Ye, there's a reason shows come on

926
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: every week. Okay. I know it's tough, and it doesn't

927
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: have to be well, just because I want it to

928
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: be really, really great. Nobody cares. Give them something compelling.

929
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: Nobody cares how perfect something is. As long as it's compelling,

930
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: you should work for me. It's even worse. I now,

931
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, shoot, I thought I was maybe going to

932
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: go to sleep tonight, and I'm like, no, I can't

933
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: go to sleep tonight. Yeah, you know what happened today? No, No,

934
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: this whole thing. We come in and we heard this

935
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: whole thing here, and it's like whatever. But you also

936
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: like being compelled. It's all the key with songs with

937
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: me talking with you just have to be compelling. That's it.

938
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: At the end of story, you have a perfect if

939
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: it's about perfect speaking that is. That is a real

940
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: problem for me, for sure. I mean, like I believe

941
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: if I if I make it perfect, it will do better.

942
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: And that actually isn't It is rarely true. If you

943
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: take it down a notch in quality and add up

944
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: to notches and quantity, it will be better, and I'm

945
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: now even like I'm a tail here podcast from nothing

946
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: he had one had no fault, nothing, and he started

947
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: doing a punk rock podcast I think turned into like

948
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 1: a punk rock it would be a message board something.

949
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you guys are stressing me out. Now

950
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: I go home. Winners stress loser's rest. There you go.

951
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: I just made that one up. Write that one that

952
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: that was quoted to me. All right, listen Kelly Bannons,

953
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you can check out her blog and

954
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: her her once she did a podcast every six months

955
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: since I was able to. Could you don't have to

956
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: drink such a jerk about it? I do kind of Um,

957
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: I want the best for you. Do you know that's

958
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: really nice? Like I do. Think that's why I say that,

959
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: Kelly Bannon k E L L E I g H.

960
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: That's how you spell it. Um. So you can find

961
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 1: cheap sunglasses in the record. You can download it. You can.

962
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: You're out playing shows them. I wish I was playing

963
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: more shows, but I am. I am out playing a

964
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: decent amount of shows. I don't even know how we met,

965
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: how do we meet? We met? Actually, I have a

966
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: really vivid memory of meeting you, which I hope it

967
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: doesn't freak you out, but um, like I know what

968
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: I was wearing. I had. That was a really vivid

969
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: day for me. It was CRS. Do you remember how

970
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: you think about you? Though it's just an example of

971
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: us going back, but I remember. I mean I actually

972
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: think you were dressed up, which isn't like how I

973
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: think of you normally. I kind of want to think

974
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: you were in like a suit or something. Maybe maybe

975
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: I was like, No, it was CRS is like a

976
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: radio convention. Yeah, and it was that that the fan

977
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: part where it's not a fan part, it's like where

978
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: you go and just sign you know. No, I was

979
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: signing and you were probably coming from a signing and um,

980
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: like I think probably like promo. My promo team was

981
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: like introducing me, but I had already heard the show. Um,

982
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: because it's your show started on my birthday. And that's

983
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: like a really symbolic day for me for a lot

984
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: of reasons, obviously, like I was bestie because of your show. Um,

985
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: I didn't want to take it like too heavy, so

986
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: I was like I'm backtracking now, I'm like, oh, shoot,

987
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have that. But you but we met Okay,

988
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: So we met and I just like, I, I don't know,

989
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: I just had that left an impression on me that moment,

990
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: that that moment, that conversation. It did jerk. No, I wasn't.

991
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know why you like to think that.

992
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: People think that about everybody is annoyed with me all

993
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: the time. I think that now I think everybody I

994
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: think I'm super annoy and I might be. I'll tell

995
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: you a story. This is an awful story has happened,

996
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: like last week is awful. And so I get an

997
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: email and the truth about emails. I can't keep up

998
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: with my email, my workingmi. I can't keep up with Twitter,

999
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: and I see every tweet sent to me. I see.

1000
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: I make that a priority. I see most of Instagram.

1001
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't look at Facebook a whole lot because that's

1002
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: just fighting ground and it makes me feel negative. So

1003
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: the comments on Facebook, I'll go over Facebook is it's

1004
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: like the bad part of town. You know, you only

1005
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: go into bad part time daylight. So I look in

1006
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: the Facebook comments wonder like, hey, to tell me something

1007
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: good story. Otherwise again, you don't go into bad part time, don't. Yeah,

1008
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: And the people so just don't ever read the comments

1009
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: on any YouTube video. Is my advice to you people

1010
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: if you want to not be sad, are amazing behind

1011
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: the computer, amazing critics and amazing at what they do.

1012
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: So anyway, um, and so I try to read many

1013
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: emails as possible. I sit in my room, I'm reading

1014
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: email out through email and a listener says, hey, you

1015
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: didn't say hi to me. You were a complete jerk.

1016
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, I've never in my life

1017
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: that I know of like blown someone off. Ever, not

1018
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: one time in my life have I ever that I

1019
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: know of blown someone off like to to find like

1020
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: you see them and you would go the other way,

1021
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: or you don't say hi on purposes that what you

1022
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: mean by blowing or if somebody comes he goes hey Bobby.

1023
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: I never like my show would not exist if it

1024
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: weren't for the people listening to it. And I know

1025
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: where my bread is buttered, and it's the people that

1026
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: listen to the show every day. Like so she says, hey,

1027
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: you didn't say hi to me. Actually you were a

1028
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: total jerk. And I was like, let me read this

1029
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: more into this, And so I replied back to her

1030
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: and said, hey, where because I was curious as to

1031
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: where I was a jerk was it wasn't. But she

1032
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: never came up to me. She saw me in the

1033
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: same room and I'm gonna tell you I'm not Mr Gagarris.

1034
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: I'm not talking to everybody because I feel like, oh,

1035
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm annoying. So she she didn't come up to me

1036
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: and say hi, and she sent me an email of

1037
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: the house. Since I wasn't walking around the room saying

1038
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: hid everybody. I was a complete I think dick was

1039
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: the word she used. And so she was like, uh,

1040
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: you really let me down. And so I said where

1041
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: did we meet? What we didn't meet? I just saw

1042
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: you across the room, and so I replied back, I

1043
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: was like, oh, sorry about that. And my my cousin

1044
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: just died, So you didn't sorry, you really said this.

1045
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make it kind of feel like

1046
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: she made me feel that's okay. Yeah, And then I

1047
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: replied back, I was like, Okay, I didn't die, but

1048
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: you didn't meet me. So I didn't think it was fair.

1049
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: But I let her sit on that because I died

1050
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 1: email for like twenty minutes. Did I did? But that's interesting,

1051
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: like fan culture like they expected like and I'm not

1052
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: trying to be mean, but she thought you should have

1053
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: worked the room. I don't. I don't work room like

1054
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Speaker 1: that's hard. It's actually really hard to do that, like

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Speaker 1: you know, work their own problems. But it's feels awkward,

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Speaker 1: like you don't know that they want to meet you.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing most people don't. Most people don't care.

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00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: They're like the guy on the radio who cares Hey

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00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: and Bobby Bobby ponies in the radio. Would you like

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Speaker 1: to meet me and get a picture? I would never

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00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: do that, it's so awesome. Could you please do that?

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00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: But I did. I would sent her a nice note

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Speaker 1: after I let that one sit for a minute. I

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Speaker 1: didn't think it was fun. I did laugh because I'm

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00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 1: twisted and I know, I know, but it was me

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Speaker 1: for anyway. It's getting hot in this room too, because

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Speaker 1: it's like my house a hundred degrees. But I no no,

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Speaker 1: I say, hey, listen, I'm really sorry to happen. But

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Speaker 1: if you would to hide to me next time, I

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00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: would love to say hi and talk and take pictures

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00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: or whatever whatever you want, like I don't anyway. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's well, makes for the whole email about your cousin dying. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I didn't drink anybody. They didn't really die. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's it. Mike. Is there anything that you've heard that

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00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: you want to follow up on? No, I'm good. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, like, if I wouldn't guess

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Speaker 1: how old you were, I would say, oh my, I've

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Speaker 1: never known you all my love forever. Yeah, you tell them,

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00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: you'd be like, okay, thirty four. I would have got four.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't I didn't know how old you were. I

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Speaker 1: probably would have put it at about thirty one. Yeah,

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00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: probably because I'm so wise. Yeah, you're like Gandoff from

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Speaker 1: What the Game with? No, Yeah, you're like Gandalf from

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00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings one point five million dollars to

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Speaker 1: be in the Facebook guy's wedding just to stand there,

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Speaker 1: and he turned it down. All they asked because they

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Speaker 1: did a theme and they offered the guy that plays

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00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: Gandoff what you know, his name, sir Ian McClellan or whatever,

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Speaker 1: one point five million dollars just to stand in costume,

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Speaker 1: and he said, no, you don't want to do it. Wow.

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00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: That is kind of like, Wow, you must have a

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00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: lot of money if you can say no to a

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00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: million dollars or you're just old and don't care, or yeah,

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00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: but he's probably both. Got Mike, is are what where

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00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: we at? On time? Almost an hour? Okay, Kelly Bannett,

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00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: thank you for hanging today. Thank you this Nashville life.

1097
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: You can look at pictures and words, and you can

1098
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: listen to her podcast and really like check out the

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00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: album and however you check it out and stream it,

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00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: download it whatever, because in reality, you're gonna do whatever

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00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna do anyway out there listening. This is a landlock,

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Speaker 1: my damn. And this is Cheap Sunglasses, which is the

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00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: title track Cheap Sunless. I feel like we gotta go

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00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: honest talk to you. I thank you. I do too.

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Speaker 1: That was I think you kinda need to be a

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Speaker 1: little more um more confident with yourself. God. You know what,

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00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: you're the second person that told me that today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I also probably wouldn't say that. Back to that comment,

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00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: you're you're well, no, well, you know what it's because

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Speaker 1: it's the person that said it is like, you're, like,

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Speaker 1: I think of Nada as so similar to you in

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00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: a lot of what she said that to me earlier,

1113
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: because we were but we were having like serious talk

1114
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: and I was like baring my soul and she was like,

1115
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: you need to be more confident. That will also cut you,

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Speaker 1: like not as the closest thing to me. Like no,

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00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: I think y'all are super similar and that's why when

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00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: we fight, it's we can also wipe it away in

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00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: like one second, it's like and then it's like, all right,

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Speaker 1: we're we're nuts. Uh. There's also a cool um cover

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Speaker 1: that Kelly did. Let it go, James Bay, come on

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00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: you And I didn't know until I saw it again.

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Speaker 1: You want to Pip and Joy hat and they was I, yeah, good,

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Speaker 1: I like my Pimp and Joy hat. Thank you, Kelly,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I hope everything goes awesome for you. Let

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Speaker 1: me throw it over to our announcer and out who's

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01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: standing by ready to act. I'm ready to get us

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Speaker 1: out of here. All right now it's back over to

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Speaker 1: you all. Thanks Bobby. That's it for this week. What

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Speaker 1: episode We're happened for the episode four other Bobby guests

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Speaker 1: from Bobby's House. A guest today has been Kelly Bannon,

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Speaker 1: your producers always, Mike d At, Mike d stro D,

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Speaker 1: E E. S. T r oh on all of them. Hey, Kelly,

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Speaker 1: what's your name on all your stuff? Kelly Vannon. She

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01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: spelled it so funny, though, I know my mom did

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Speaker 1: that at K E L L E I G H

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Speaker 1: B A N N E N oh my don't, my goodness.

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Speaker 1: And then uh, I'm your host. He was your host,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Bollings and thanks to our sponsor no one yet.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll see you next week on the Bobby Cast. Goodbye, everyone,