1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: So what we think ber Gang preseason game number one? 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: The good, the bad, and yeah, the ugly God. Danny 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: surrec with me not ugly by the way, we discuss 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: all of the above. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode nine thirteen, 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: and it starts now. 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Puda Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: dot Com slash podcast. 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again. 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 3: Some more hurry magic. 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craigcrioler. 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: So let's peel the curtain back for just a moment 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: here on this Monday, because something that will air later 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: this week has already been taped recorded and it involves you. Danny, sirek, 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: I'm nervous. 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:07,639 Speaker 3: What are we talking about? 19 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: Cardinals game Plan? Ah? 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 3: That's right. 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: The season debut of Cardinals Game Plan with the head 22 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: coach Jonathan Gannon I believe will air later this week, 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: but again, peeling the curtain back taped on Monday, after 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: the coach addresses the media. Your first opportunity. Although not 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: your first opportunity to speak with JG. You spoke to 26 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: him before the game Saturday, during the game Saturday, and 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: then Monday afternoon. 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: Usually game plan for the last however many years it 29 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: has existed, has been Paul Calvic and Ron Wolfley, with 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: the head coach gan in the last couple of years. 31 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: Now that wolf has retired from the broadcast booth, I 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: think it's fair to say I'm probably the interim stand 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: in until we find the final the final version, which 34 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: I'm more than happy with, however it pans out. It's 35 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: fun to get to talk to that coach. It's fun 36 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: to get to do a little more content with Paul, 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: which is always fun. But yeah, we get a chance 38 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: to have some good, long conversations with the head coach 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: about what he liked and saw from big picture stuff 40 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: went over the Chiefs, some individual players looking ahead to Denver. 41 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: A joint practice this Thursday before the game on Saturday. 42 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: It's fun time. 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: Cardinals win their preseason opener twenty to seventeen against the 44 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. Of course, Danny part of the TV 45 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: broadcast Arizona's Family three TVCBS five pregame end game a 46 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: number of different hits for television. And I even notice 47 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: this during Cards Camp watching practice, which is close to 48 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: full speed, not quite game speed, but even watching practice 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: from the sideline a completely different perspective than when you're 50 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: in the broadcast booth. Now there is a difference between 51 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: preseason speed and regular season speed, but still going from 52 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: Cards Camp to the preseason opener and you on the 53 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: sideline watching guys fly past, you'll left and right. 54 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: It's fast. It might not look as fast. I mean 55 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: maybe it does on TV, but when you're down there, 56 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: it zooms by you. When you're a viewer and you're 57 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: watching at home and you see on the sidelines, whether 58 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: it's officiating, crew member, it's media photographer, whatever it might be, 59 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: when you see them kind of last minute running out 60 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: of the way. As a viewer, you're like, what the heck, 61 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: why are you waiting so long? Like get out of 62 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: the way. But when you're down there, it happens so fast, 63 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: and you have to make such a quick decision on 64 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: are they actually coming my way or is it just close? 65 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: Make sure you're not tripping over the cart that's rolling 66 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: behind you. There's a lot of things you have to 67 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: go through your mind pretty quickly to make a decision 68 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: in a snap second. It is fun to be back 69 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: down there, though, the speed of the game. Getting that 70 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: different viewpoint for me because I normally am in the 71 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 3: press box. 72 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: Any close calls on Saturday. 73 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: Thankfully, No, I wouldn't say close call. I've had close 74 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: calls before and I haven't had anything remotely close to 75 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: that level. I mean, I've come close to James Connor 76 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: running me over, and thankfully I did not get to 77 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: that point on Saturday. 78 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: The difference is also the number of people on the 79 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: sideline for a preseason game versus a regular season game, 80 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: because it's a ninety man roster and they're all down there, 81 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: so it is a lot of bodies that you have 82 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: to deal with in addition to the equipments and everything else. 83 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the other part is when you have almost 84 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: double the amount of players right now, you have more staff, 85 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: which is absolutely necessary, but yeah, it absolutely gets it's 86 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 3: a little crowded, a little jammed down there. 87 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: All right. We can kind of dive specifically into what 88 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: we saw on Saturday, but just big picture for me, 89 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: what you saw based off maybe some expectations. Yes, we 90 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: saw the starters play first team offense was on the 91 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: field for eighteen snaps. Many of the first team defensive 92 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: starters saw action on eleven snaps, meaning basically two series 93 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: for the offense, two series for the defense. 94 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 3: I like the starters playing in the preseason, not the 95 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: whole game, and it ended up. I don't necessarily think 96 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: it was the whole plan going into the game for 97 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: a gan and to say I want my offensive starters 98 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: to play the entire first quarter, I think that's just 99 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 3: how it panned out, especially given how the game started 100 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: for the Cardinals. You can still get good things now. 101 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: The Cardinals don't game plan for the Chiefs. They're not 102 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 3: going to game plan for the Broncos or the Raiders. 103 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 3: Nobody gain plans in the preseason. It's just about going 104 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 3: through your mechanics and trying to make sure everybody's on 105 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 3: the same page with communication, understanding the playbook, the execution 106 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 3: of it all. That's really what is important there, and routine, 107 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 3: routine is crucial. That's why I like the starters playing 108 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 3: is mentally they are getting in the mindset of Okay, 109 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: I need to show up at this time at the 110 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: stadium because I need this much time to go through 111 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 3: my warmups or my pre warmup routine, whether that is 112 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: going in the coltub, riding the bike, doing individual drills 113 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: on the field. I need to be in my uniform 114 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: at this time, all of those things, and then you 115 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: get them out there under the bright lights and you're 116 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: going through a few plays. I think that's important mentally. 117 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: And this is what quarterback Kyler Murray touched on in 118 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 3: his postgame press conference when asked about his interception is 119 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: he says, I'd rather get out now the week one 120 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: in New Orleans, So I like the fact the starters played. 121 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 3: I think you can get a few things out of it. Again, 122 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 3: mostly that's routine. This coaching staff will get a whole 123 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: lot more out of Thursday's joint practice with the Denvers 124 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: when you have got true one on ones and they 125 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: are going for more than eleven snaps. 126 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: You bentioned Kyler's postgame comments asked about the interception because 127 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: we know Kyler typically not a fan of the preseason 128 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: because there's nothing on the line, there's nothing at stakes, 129 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: So how do you really get up for a preseason game. 130 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: Yet I did find it interesting him almost agreeing, Yeah, 131 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: I needed this because I'm not used to being chased 132 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: from behind by a defender in practice. Yeah, they might 133 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: be chasing me, but they're not going to catch up 134 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: to me and knock me down because of my teammate. 135 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: So you've got that aspect. And then when you're in 136 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: practice sometime in those drills eleven on eleven, it's half 137 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: speed three quarter speeds, so you're throwing the ball not 138 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: nearly as long or as with enough zip. And then 139 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: of course what happens on Saturday, that ball gets intercepted 140 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: and we're like, what happened? What's wrong? Well, not a 141 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: game situation, that game speed. To your point, better that 142 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: happens Saturday than week ones. 143 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: One thing as a quarterback to mentally tell yourself, Okay, 144 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: I should have gotten the ball out a second or 145 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: two quicker because in a real game defender would have 146 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: been on me. Then actually having that defender on you 147 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: in a live game, so that is important, again, a 148 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: benefit of having the starters see some snaps. Thankfully, all 149 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 3: things considered, the Cardinals came out relatively healthy, so that 150 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 3: is good as well, because that that is the risk, right, 151 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: So some coaches have different philosophies on that as well. Offensively, 152 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: some of the big takeaways from what you saw from 153 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: the ones your playmakers got the ball. James Connor didn't 154 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,559 Speaker 3: see a lot of action, but you saw some dirty 155 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: runs right he was going up the middle. He was 156 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: required ring a handful of defenders to take him down. 157 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: He had one run where he ran up through the 158 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: middle of the field and he was amped when he 159 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: got up. He had a lot of energy there. Tied 160 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: En Trey McBride had some good routes, and wide receiver 161 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior as well. So all things considered, you 162 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: saw some of your big time playmakers touch the ball, 163 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 3: and I thought the offensive line looked good. Right guard 164 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: Isaiah Adams, who has earned this starting role, I've said 165 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: since early in the off season it was his position 166 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: to lose. He was following through on a lot of 167 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: his blocks. I thought the offensive line looked good. 168 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: For those that are longtime listeners here on Cardinals Cover 169 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: two presented by Hundai, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals, 170 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: this is where I obligated to say, this is where 171 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: Danny was right and where Craig was wrong. We already 172 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: had this discussion during Cards camp regarding right guard Isaiah 173 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: Adams but yeah, he Isaiah continues to stack days, whether 174 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: it's padded practices or in this case, Okay, you did 175 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: it in practice, can you do it in a game situation? Again, 176 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: it's the Chiefs first team defense only a couple of series, 177 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: but that offensive line as a whole, even right tackle 178 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: Jonah Williams. We haven't seen a lot in practice as 179 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: far as those one on one drills. But you had 180 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: a clean pocket rushing lanes and Kyler had time to throw. 181 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: Everyone got a touch, James got a touch. You mentioned 182 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: Trey Marvin Michael Wilson on a third down pass play 183 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: to keep the drive going. So all in all, outside 184 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: of the interception twice the first team offense moved the 185 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: football down inside the red zone. Yeah, you lost the 186 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: ball and then you were able to get off the 187 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: field with points. I wonder what would have happened in 188 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: the regular season after getting stuffed on third and one. 189 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: Now you're staring at fourth and one if JG decides 190 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: to roll the dice or kick the field goal, which 191 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: he did. Chad Ryland makes the thirty three yard kick 192 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: to get the offense off the field at that moment, 193 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: knowing that they were done for the night. Hey, we 194 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: got points, some positivity. Let's call it a night. Now. 195 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: In the regular season, he might have rolled the dice 196 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: a little bit to try to get into the in zone. 197 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not gonna be as aggressive in the preseason. Again, 198 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 3: these games don't count. They absolutely matter, but they don't count. 199 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: All in all, the offense seemingly did a pretty good job. 200 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: The only incompletion was the interception for Murray, but the 201 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: offensive line kept him up right. He had time to throw, 202 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 3: there were rushing lanes. I also liked that when Murray 203 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: hung onto the ball, we saw him use his legs 204 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 3: a bit. Again, wasn't anything crazy. You're not going to 205 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 3: see anything crazy in the preseason. But he ran up 206 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: through the middle field right. He stayed in the pocket 207 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 3: and used his legs and that was a good sign 208 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: as well. 209 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't a design run. But there's no one open. Okay, 210 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make something happen out of this play. That again, 211 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: good defense, but you can't cover everyone. And Kyler's so elusive. 212 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: And he was smart preseason, I know, but he was 213 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: smart when he used his legs get some positive yards 214 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: and then slide. 215 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 3: Nothing crazy. One of those off script plays. We have 216 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 3: heard offensive corner Drew Petsing and Murray both talk about 217 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 3: you focus this offseason. 218 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: It's again preseason. Now, what happens Thursday joint practice. We'll 219 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: see if the first team offense is on the field 220 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: at all on Saturday night in Denver. I think a 221 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: lot of that might depend on what happens during Thursday's 222 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: joint practice. Outside of that, this is when you're talking 223 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: about preseason. Okay, the first team offense gets off the field, 224 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it's okay. Some guys 225 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: that might not be starters but have significant roles, whether 226 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: that is a Trey Benson or a Mari de Mercado. Certainly, 227 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: we hope to never see Jacoby Prissett on the field, 228 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: but just to have him on the sideline as a 229 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: coach for Kyler and then as a backup plan a 230 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: perfect two minute close to the first half and getting 231 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: points on those final two drives, final two touchdown drives. 232 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: But I feel a lot better if you need to 233 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: see Jacoby for a series or a game, you have 234 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: more than a capable enough backup and the experience that 235 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: he brings to the team. 236 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: Brissette was composed he was facing a second team defense, 237 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: and so you can take that for what you will, 238 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 3: but he was composed and he led the offense to 239 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 3: two touchdown scoring drives. I had a chance to talk 240 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 3: with him postgame, and he laughed it. I can't really 241 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: take credit. Like I threw a two yard screen to 242 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: running back Marty mccado and he took it to the house. 243 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: He's still the one though. He is reading what the 244 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: defense is doing. He's getting the ball out on time. 245 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissette looked good in that preseason game. I'll be 246 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: curious to see if he splits any reps with Clayton 247 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: tune or if it fits a Clayton tune heavy last 248 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 3: two games going into Denver. 249 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: We heard from Jacoby on that last day of Cards camp, 250 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: and then watching him and your interview post game. I 251 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: don't know, it just struck me. Smile on his face again. Yeah, 252 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: the team won, but he seems to be And I 253 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: don't know much about Jacoby, don't have a lot of 254 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: interactions with him, but he seems to be in a 255 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: good frame of mine. First time playing on the West Coast. 256 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: Much of his career, he's been an East Coast guy. 257 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: He brought that up to us, like the time difference. 258 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: He still operates on East Coast time, even though he 259 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: lives on the West Coast. But he had a smile 260 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: on his face and seem to be enjoying either that 261 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: particular game or just enjoying the team that he's on 262 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: and maybe see something in this team that says, yeah, 263 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm a part of it. I might not see a 264 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: lot of snaps, but I can certainly have a role 265 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: within this offense and within this team. 266 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 3: That is what makes up some of the best, most reliable, 267 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: consistent backup quarterbacks the NFL has seen. I mean, when 268 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 3: you talk about backup quarterbacks who have made it a 269 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: long time in the league, there are people who take 270 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: their job seriously. The reason that some of these backup 271 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: quarterbacks and I'm not saying I mean Brissette has been 272 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 3: a starter for much of his career. My point being 273 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: is they have the right mindset. And that's something that 274 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 3: Murray touched on Brissett that he learned very early, is 275 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 3: that Brissett doesn't show up to work every day with 276 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: the mindset of I'm the backup quarterback to Kyler Murray, 277 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: I can just kind of take it easy I'll answer 278 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: whatever questions he has. I just got to make sure 279 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: I don't turn the ball over if I happen to 280 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 3: see the field. No prosett comes in every day and 281 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: he works hard, and he makes sure that he is 282 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: understanding the offense and what is being asked of him 283 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: by his coaches, and that he can go and he 284 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: can command this team to success if his number is 285 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 3: called upon. 286 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: The running back situation, I thought Trey Benson looked very good. 287 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: He had nine carries, and yeah, he bounced it to 288 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: the outside a couple of times, but there was more 289 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: north south running and I think he learned a lot 290 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: of that late last season, showed that he can catch 291 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: the football nice, grab twenty yards, catch and run. And 292 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: now you've got not only one running back who has 293 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: good hands in the passing game, but a second one. 294 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: And then Amari Nei Mercado, who I don't know if 295 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: was brought up once during cards camp at all, maybe 296 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: the forgotten piece in that running back room. His first snap, 297 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: a forty three yard catch and run on a running 298 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: back screen, takes into the end zone, and all of 299 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, oh, yeah, a Maury's on the team, 300 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: and yes, He is a vital piece to this offense, 301 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: whether that's catching, running, pass protection. He's your third down back. 302 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: But JG talked about him postgame. He can do a 303 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: number of different things to where maybe if you thought 304 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: he might have been on the bubble because of an 305 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: increased role for Trey Benson, I don't know. I mean, 306 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: I do think there is a spot for Mari Dee. 307 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: Mericatto has been a strong blocking running back for this 308 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: Cardinals offense. His touchdown was not just a screen and 309 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: he ran, you know, like a you didn't just run 310 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: a go rat like. He ran across the field. He 311 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: was breaking through some tackles. That was That was an 312 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 3: impressive forty three yarder. And what I liked best is 313 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: I was down there in the corner by the end 314 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: zone and James Connor was the first full on running 315 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: to celebrate with De Mercato in the end zone, and 316 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: pretty much every other player was following suit behind him. 317 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 3: That was exciting to see. It was so interesting. You 318 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 3: know this time last year, running backs was a position 319 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 3: room that we spent a lot of time talking about. 320 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 3: Is how do you make a decision with the numbers 321 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: of James Connor, Trey Benson, Michael Carter, Amar de Mercado, 322 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: and DJ Dallas. The Cardinals ended up keeping four and 323 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: then Carter on their practice squad, and I think it 324 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: just hasn't been much of a discussion because that worked 325 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: so well last year that you're almost under the assumption 326 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 3: that's what they're going to do again. Maybe that's not 327 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: the right call on our end, but I like that 328 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: de Mercado showed what he's capable of in that game Saturday. 329 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: His postgame comments and you can read them on Easycardinals 330 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: dot Com, was someone that puts team over you because 331 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: he mentioned I'm not that guy. I need more carries. 332 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: I need more carries. Honestly, I didn't think I'd be here. 333 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: And when he said that last part, I went back 334 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: and listened to the full audio. He meant in the NFL, 335 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: not on this particular team, but not in the NFL 336 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: given where he was in college. He didn't get a 337 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: lot of reps snaps in college. Yet here he is 338 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL and part of a NFL team that 339 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: relies on him. Not that I didn't expect to still 340 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: be here based off of James and Trey Well. 341 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: To clarify off that, when de Mercado said, I'm not 342 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 3: that guy I need more carries, need more carries. It's 343 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 3: I'm not that guy saying, oh I need more carries, 344 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 3: Oh I need more carries. That can be misconstrued if 345 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 3: you're just listening and you don't know the context. He's 346 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: not saying he needs more carries. He's the guy who's saying, 347 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: I don't need more carries. I will do whatever my 348 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 3: role is this week. 349 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: You tell me what you need, I'll give it to you, 350 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: and hopefully it's more than it was the previous week. 351 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: And I do think you're going to keep four running backs. 352 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: It's a question of okay, can you keep a fifth 353 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: if you like Michael Carter and the change of pace 354 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: that he brings. But then again, when you keep one 355 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: more in that running back room, you got to take 356 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: one less from another position group, at least base. How 357 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: we look at numbers and we know Jonathan and it 358 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: doesn't look like that. And I do wonder, like with 359 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: the new kickoff rules, return and coverage, do you see 360 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: more running backs defensive or defensive backs versus the linebackers 361 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: that are two hundred and ninety plus pounds. Maybe you 362 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: want more athleticism on the field for those particular plays. 363 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: It's a numbers game. It'll be interesting how it all 364 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 3: shakes out. That's why these preseason games really do matter. 365 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 3: It's why this joint practice coming up with Denver absolutely matters. 366 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: I'm curious now, based off what we saw Saturday, can 367 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: Xavier Weaver take another step and stack another productive day 368 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: Thursday and Saturday had the two catches, the touchdown also 369 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: drew a defensive pass interference penalty, which doesn't count in 370 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: the statuet, but that particular drive, it was Xavier targeted 371 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: three times and again positive on all three of those 372 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: particular plays. The penalty was twenty four yards, so that 373 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: certainly does count. And here's someone that we know has speed. 374 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: The issue has been one on one, can you get open? 375 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: Can you win those contested catches? And then when you 376 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: are targeted, can you catch the ball? First? And foremost 377 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: so can you get open? Can you catch the ball? 378 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: And it's been kind of up and down, and the 379 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: consistency that you want out of that wide receiver hasn't 380 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: always been there, and I think you're seeing a little 381 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: bit more of that out of year two. 382 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 3: Sure there's still room to grow. I also Xavier Weaver 383 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 3: is he's tall, He's six foot, He's only one eighty five. 384 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 3: We're talking about Marvin Harrison junior, and not to compare 385 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: it to player. He just put on eleven pounds and 386 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 3: muscle be two twenty. So Weaver having a good preseason 387 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: is good for him. I think this is someone I've 388 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: been saying all off season. I think that could be 389 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: maybe a little secret sauce into adding some speed and 390 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: some depth really stretched the field for this offense. Kind 391 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: of having him as somebody in your back pocket that 392 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: you can use when the week is right. We were 393 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 3: having a good preseason, a good training camp. Is that 394 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 3: going to put him above Zay Joe in the depth 395 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 3: in the depth chart of the wide receivers room, No, 396 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 3: but you still need to figure out who your final 397 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 3: wide receiver is going to be. And to do that 398 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: you got to make sure you're showing up on special teams. 399 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 3: We saw good things from Weaver. There's absolutely still room 400 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 3: to grow, and that was something Gannon talked about in 401 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 3: his press conference, was that he has felt that Weaver's 402 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: kind of had a little bit of a roller coaster 403 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: and just being more consistent. 404 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: Weaver was the sixth wide receiver last season, inactive for 405 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: much of the year until late in the season. Do 406 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: you keep six? Is Weaver the fifth wide receiver and 407 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: you don't need six based off the number of times 408 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: we've seen two and three tight ends, and I do 409 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: think they like weavers speed. But you're not just going 410 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: to keep someone if you're not planning on using them 411 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: or figuring out a way to get them on the 412 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: football field. 413 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: When we talk about the depth and the defensive line 414 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 3: room or the quarterbacks room, you're gonna have to pull 415 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 3: these numbers from somewhere. I think it's very feasible that 416 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: that wide receiver's room could be one the numbers where 417 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: we see that player taken from and going from six 418 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 3: to five. The question becomes, is that Xavier Weaver, a 419 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 3: younger player, maybe a really high ceiling for what this 420 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 3: coaching staff could see. What about Simmy Fijoco who they 421 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 3: brought in, who has been a very good special teams 422 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 3: player throughout his career. That's where the competition really start. 423 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 3: When Gannon says it's high competition, you might think, Okay, well, 424 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 3: we know it's gonna be Marvin Harrison Junior or Michael 425 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 3: Wilson as your top two receivers. How much competition can 426 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: there really be? That's where the competition really is is 427 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 3: when you start getting into the nitty gritty of each 428 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 3: position room. 429 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: Who's this year is Zach Pascal? Meaning a wide receiver 430 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: who plays a lot on special teams. Maybe it's not 431 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, maybe it's a different position group that 432 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: has that extra body. But they're not looked at as 433 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: a corner or safety. Their main priority, Their main role 434 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: is special teams and then play offense defense if needed. 435 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: And some of these special teams changes. I wouldn't be 436 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 3: surprised if teams, Cardinals included, are saying, you know what, 437 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 3: we don't necessarily want bulky, strong players, we want someone fast. 438 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 3: Maybe that's a change that we're seeing. 439 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: By the way special teams. I would love to know 440 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: what Jeff Rodgers had to say to the team. I 441 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: don't know that I would just considering how the game 442 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: began with the fumble, and then the ensuing kickoff fumbled 443 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: again but recovered, and there was a muff punt as well. Look, 444 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: if you're on kickoff, if you're on punt, the first 445 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: job catch the ball, secure the football, and then try 446 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: to get upfield as much you can, but don't get 447 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: that ball knock loose. And the fact that it happened 448 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: twice in the first two kickoffs. Fortunately the Cardinals recovered 449 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: the second one, didn't lose possession, but there was a 450 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: little air sucked out of the stadium on Saturday night 451 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: because you win the toss, elect to receive. Hey, we 452 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: get to see the first team offense Kyler Murray for 453 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: the first time in the preseason a long time. Oh no, 454 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: wait here it comes Patrick Mahomes and three plays later 455 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: at a touchdowns Like what is going. 456 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: On with the defense in a not great position? I 457 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: mean really short field for the Chiefs. That's all we 458 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: saw Mahomes. What forty eight seconds he was on the field. 459 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 3: You have to be better on special teams. Special teams, 460 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 3: that's a great example of that can swing momentum in 461 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 3: a very serious way one way or the other. Having 462 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 3: good hands and ball security two most important things out 463 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 3: of special teams, out of any returner. If the starters 464 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 3: don't play in Denver, I will be curious if that 465 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 3: is the same for the starters on special teams I e. 466 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 3: Greg dortsch DJ Dallas. 467 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: The other issue on how that game started. Before we 468 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: touch on the defense, were the penalties. There were three 469 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: in the first eighteen minutes. Team finished with five, so 470 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: they cleaned it up and the one penalty, at least 471 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: initially it was okay, the first impression of Will Johnson DPI. 472 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: It was his second step of the game, but he 473 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: did have his hand looking at it. On replay, he 474 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: did have his hand wrapped around the waist of the receiver, 475 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: which you're not going to get away with in the NFL. 476 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: And again a learning lesson okay, hands off because especially 477 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: inside the five yard line, officials are going to keep 478 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: an eye where are your hands. You can be physical 479 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: or whatever, but even if you're not completely grabbing, if 480 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: it looks like it and the receiver acts like you 481 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: got pulled or tugged, here comes the flag. 482 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: That's the learning curve. Back to what Murray said about 483 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: the interception is take that learning experience now rather than 484 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 3: Week one in New Orleans regular season. Sing goes for 485 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: Will Johnson. It was the first time he was targeted. 486 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 3: I'm not going to say he was nervous. It's a 487 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 3: very good chance he wasn't. It's possible he was. He's 488 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 3: under the bright lights for the first time playing with 489 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: the first team defense. Get it out of the way 490 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 3: so that way you can clean it up moving forward, Let's. 491 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: Touch on the defense. Who or what stood out to you? Yes, 492 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: there were the takeaways, there were two interceptions, Darren Hall 493 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: could have had a second. Then Keaton Crawford more than 494 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: just a special teams player. I think we kind of 495 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: lose sight of him. Yes, he's a seventh round pick. 496 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: But in that safety room wearing a number that Buddha 497 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: Baker war when he first entered the league, number thirty six, 498 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: high pointed that ball in the end zone. So someone 499 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: to pay attention to because they do think Keaton's going 500 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: to make this team on special teams. But now all 501 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you've got confidence in him if you 502 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: need him defensively. 503 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 3: That vertical in Crawford's end zone interception, what was his 504 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 3: vertical at the combine, because holy smokes, he got up there. 505 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: I believe if I remember correctly, it was forty one 506 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: and a half inches, the second most among DB's As 507 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: I look it up real quick quick, yeah, forty one 508 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: and a half, second highest among defensive backs. At the 509 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: scouting car. 510 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: That was on display that was a very impressive read 511 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 3: and talking to again and what he liked about both 512 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: interceptions by Crawford and Hall is that they weren't pass 513 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: as that just hit him in the chest. They did 514 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: a nice job reading what the offense was doing, getting 515 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 3: into the right spot and had good hands to snag 516 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 3: that ball down. That was impressive. As we start to 517 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: go back into the second team defense, look the first 518 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 3: team offense, it's important to see who's out there and 519 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 3: the kind of it's It's what you expected to see 520 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 3: from the starters. Right of Darius Robinson was out there. 521 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 3: You saw Garrett Williams, Max Melton, and Will Johnson as 522 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 3: your cornerbacks, Mac Wilson Senior. Everything seemed seemingly smooth, wearing 523 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 3: the green dot in terms of communication right and everybody 524 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 3: getting set on time. Those kind of things you're looking 525 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 3: out for the first team defense. Second team Dante Stills, 526 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I I don't know if it's a natural 527 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 3: progression or if new defensive line coach Winston Di la 528 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: Thibaudeer aka coach Debo is lighting something up inside him. 529 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 3: I don't know, but Dante Stills was in the backfield 530 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: quite a bit, creating pressure same with L. J. Collier 531 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: and Jordan Burch. Those three names I wrote down quite 532 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 3: a bit, so that's good to have that from your 533 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 3: defensive lineman. And Stills and Collier and the rookie outside 534 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 3: linebacker Jordan Birch. He was fast, he looked physical, he 535 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 3: was getting hands on the quarterback. Those are three names 536 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 3: that really stood out to me. Second team defense completely agree. 537 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: Stills looked explosive, drew a holding penalty on Trey Smith, 538 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: one of the top guards in the league. And Jordan 539 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: Burch someone when we talk about that outside linebacker's room, 540 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: Josh we who did not play on Saturday, and you've 541 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: got Baron Browning, Zavin Collins, is Jordan Burch, that fourth 542 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: guy knocking on the door and putting pressure on the 543 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: guys ahead of him because he had a sack. He 544 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: actually had two sacks officially a sack negated by a 545 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: penalty in the second quarter and then a half sack 546 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: wiped out by offsetting penalties. So it wasn't just the 547 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: pressure he was getting home. And it's just unfortunate it 548 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: didn't show up in the statuet because it didn't officially happen, 549 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: but he was in the backfield a lot. 550 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 3: Similarly to that depth in the wide receivers room, the 551 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: competition same goes for that outside linebacker's room because Xavier Thomas, 552 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 3: player we didn't see a lot of flashes from as 553 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 3: a rookie last year in his limited snaps, was also 554 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 3: getting pressure. Again that is against the second team offensive 555 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 3: line and the quarterback. So take that with what you will, 556 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 3: But that Darren Hall interception doesn't happen without the Thomas pressure. 557 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: It's a good point, and Xavier Thomas is one of 558 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: those players who might be taking advantage of the fact 559 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: that we've yet to see Bijo Julari on the football 560 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: field and where is he in his comeback from the 561 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: ACL injury, Because how many outside linebackers do you keep? 562 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: If Josh Sweat's gonna be on the field a lot, 563 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: how many do you keep? Baron Browning and Xavion Collins 564 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: might see their time increase because of how well Baron 565 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: has played and just the value that this defensive coaching 566 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: staff puts on Zavian in the number of different roles 567 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: he plays, how many different positions he played. So there's 568 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: there's a three person rotation right there is there a fourth, Yes, 569 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: you're going to keep four, but do you push it 570 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: beyond that? 571 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: That might not be a decision that gets made until 572 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 3: you're four weeks into the regular season. O Jelari remains 573 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 3: on the poplast physically unable to perform as he rehabs 574 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 3: that knee injury entertainer tearing his ACL in August of 575 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 3: training camp last year, So they can take Ojlari off 576 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: that list anytime they want, although if he starts on 577 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 3: that list, it's four games in the regular season that 578 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 3: he cannot play, so that might not be a decision 579 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 3: that they have to come to for quite some time. 580 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: Disappointing personally that we didn't get to see joshuat on 581 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: the field. If it was a regular season game, Jonathan 582 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: Gannon said postgame, he would have been on the football field. 583 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: Just one of those things where you better to be 584 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: safe than sorry. Klais Campbell, Kelvin Beacham didn't need to play. 585 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: I think the if you play more than thirteen years 586 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: in the league, I think you deserved to be able 587 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: to sit on the sideline and watch your teammates. 588 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 3: I agree. 589 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: I mean if once you get to that, you know, 590 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: what's a year fourteen for Beach and year eighteen for class. 591 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: So if you get those numbers, okay. 592 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm right. I'm right there with it. I highly 593 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 3: doubt the two of them put up much of a fight, 594 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 3: if at all, and said, you know what, you guys 595 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: are exempt from starters playing in the first preseason game. 596 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: When they are on the field, though Kalais goes full speed, 597 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: he does, and it's not okay, let me take a playoff. 598 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: But if he's suited up for that particular day's practice, 599 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: he's out there, and I think that to pull him 600 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: off the field a little bit, to give him the rest, 601 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: because it's if he knows mentally, okay, this is a 602 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: day that I'm practicing. Then he gets his body ready 603 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: and okay, I'm going to go for an hour and 604 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: a half, two hours. I'm mentally ready and I'm physically ready, 605 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: So use me. 606 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: You don't make it to eighteen years in the league 607 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: if you don't one love the game and to have 608 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 3: the motor to continue playing in a way that you 609 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: can be a difference maker. I had a chance to 610 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 3: sit down with Campbell throughout training camp, and that was 611 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 3: an interesting topic of conversation. He called it a humbling 612 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: experience to come to the realization that he cannot practice 613 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 3: every day, so expect for Amble to have some vet 614 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 3: days throughout the regular season. And he also said it 615 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 3: was humbling to come to the acceptance of having thirty 616 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 3: thirty five quality snaps in him on a game day. 617 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: He says it took a lot of growth to be 618 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 3: as honest and self aware of himself as he had 619 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 3: to be to come to that decision because he just 620 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 3: wants to be out there as a difference maker. And 621 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 3: if Campbell doesn't feel like he can really make a 622 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 3: difference once he's hitting that forty five fifty range like 623 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 3: he was the first time he was in Arizona Card 624 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 3: on his career, he wants to make sure he's putting 625 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 3: the team in a position to win. I should make 626 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: it clear that Campbell made it clear. If it's a 627 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 3: big time moment and he's got to be out there 628 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 3: for a handful of extra snaps, you better believe he 629 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: has it in him to do what he can to 630 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: be a difference maker. 631 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: I just looked back because he started every game last season, 632 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: played fifty eight percent of the defensive snaps. Now he's 633 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: been opening on as saying he's probably in that thirty 634 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: to thirty five percent range. But to your point, it's 635 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: like the James Connor rule that I'm just going to 636 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: make up right now. Lake. You put the ball in 637 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: James's hands, no matter if it's his thirtieth touch of 638 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: the game. For Khalais, you need to stop or you 639 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: need to pass. Batted down to the line of scrimmage. 640 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: Kalays get back in there. 641 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 3: There's a short list of players I do not want 642 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 3: to have to tell them you're coming off the field 643 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: in a big time moment later. The top two absolutely 644 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 3: no hesitation. James Connor, Khalais Campbell. 645 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: By the way, as I look, Khalais was one of 646 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: four players and three coaches, including one coordinator that you 647 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: sat down with during cards camp. 648 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 3: Whoo, sounds like a sounds like a busy training camp. 649 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 1: Craig Kyler, Murray will Johnson, Klais, Marvin Harrison, junior coach Deebo. 650 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: We'll get to him in a moment. A walk and 651 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: talk with Justin Frye and his golden rule of don't 652 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: be in a hole, which I found fascinating that both 653 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: of you said don't be. 654 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 3: In a hale. 655 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: Sim all right, coach Debo. He is one fascinating to 656 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: watch at practice and a joy to listen to as well. 657 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: And it was with There are a number of different 658 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: plays of Cards Camp, but the sound bite of Cards Camp, 659 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: and maybe the most talked about SoundBite of Cards Camp, 660 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: was part of your sit down with coach Debo when 661 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: he compared himself and Nick Ralis. Their personalities are like 662 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: Shrek and Donkey, which is perfect, by the. 663 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 3: Way, absolutely perfect. 664 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: Problem is one was brought up by you to Nick 665 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: and the media brought it up to Nick. Nick hasn't 666 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: seen Shrek. 667 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 3: I know. It's such a shame. What a class movie. 668 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: Here. 669 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 3: Here's the context of that is Debo, the new defensive 670 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 3: line coach, and Rallis were college teammates University of Minnesota, 671 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: so their relationship goes way back. The final question which look, 672 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 3: I'll recommend you listen to every interview, of course, but 673 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 3: I will say Brogan News that Deebo interview is one 674 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 3: of my favorites I have ever done. His personality, he's 675 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 3: not spitting out cliches, very genuine answers. I really enjoyed 676 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 3: that conversation. I asked Deebo if Rallis had cane Onto 677 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 3: calling him Debo because that was in the first press 678 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 3: conference of coach Tbo saying, yeah, Rallis doesn't call me that. 679 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 3: He's confused because he's never had anybody shorten my last 680 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 3: name of di la thibaud Air before. So that's how 681 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 3: I kind of phrased the question. And we were going 682 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 3: into the yinni yang of Rallis is very stoic, Deebo 683 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 3: has a lot of juice, a lot of energy. Second 684 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 3: really to only gan it out on the field, and 685 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 3: Deebo sets it up. He says, yeah, I've never really 686 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 3: told anyone this, but I'll tell you. I think that 687 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 3: Ralis and I are like Shrek and Donkey, where I'm Donkey, 688 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 3: im making waffs in the morning, I'm go, go go, 689 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 3: I'm non stop, and Rallis is just stoic. And I 690 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 3: said to him on the interview, you could have given 691 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 3: me a hundred guesses and I would have never come 692 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,479 Speaker 3: close to it being a Shrek analogy. But he nailed 693 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 3: it on the head. The best part is yes, I 694 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 3: mean Rallis has never seen Trek, so he doesn't know 695 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 3: whether or not it's a true analogy. But I liked 696 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 3: Deebo's rebuttal to me. When I made that clear, Rollis 697 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 3: had never seen the movie, and Diva goes, that is 698 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 3: the most Shrek thing ever. To have never seen Shrek. 699 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 3: And if you've never seen Shrek, he probably don't understand 700 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 3: this reference, and that's not enjoyable for you. But he 701 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 3: hit the nail on the head. 702 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 1: I'll give Nick credit. He did mention he's got two 703 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: young kids, so eventually, I'm guessing Shrek will show up 704 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: at some point. I mean, how can you not how 705 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: can you not enjoy Shrek? And whether like three or 706 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:17,959 Speaker 1: four different ones. 707 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,479 Speaker 3: But the second one is good. I haven't seen three, four, five, 708 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 3: however many they made after that. The first is a classic, 709 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 3: the second is good, which is not usually the case. 710 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 3: Someone needs to I could go on and on about Shrek. 711 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: There's got to be a veteran. Maybe it's collapse or 712 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: someone someone, maybe Buddha. We can figure out a way to, 713 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, in the cutups the defensive you know, cutups 714 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: in front of the defensive room, maybe the entire where 715 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: a movie clip of Shrek gets put in. Just to 716 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: get the reaction from Nick Rolis. 717 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 3: He'd be very confused, what is this I've. 718 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 1: Never seen this. Yeah, but well done on your part 719 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: all of cards camp and now you're about raty to 720 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: pack and head to Denver for a joint practice. 721 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 3: I haven't even looked at the weather. I'm just going to 722 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 3: sunny and humid and altitude. J G specifically brought up 723 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 3: the altitude on altitude sickness. 724 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: No, just like the not the sickness, just dealing with 725 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 1: the altitude. You're outside practicing with the weathers. 726 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 3: Water, electrolytes. Is it Is it that easy? 727 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. 728 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 3: Okay, well, that's no harm for me, correct I guess 729 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 3: I'll let you know. I mean we've been before, but 730 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 3: I don't think we've been to Devon when it's been hot. 731 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 2: Ut. 732 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 3: No, we had a preseason game in Denver what two years. 733 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: Ago, but not a joint practice. 734 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 3: No, not, that would have been Minnesota two years ago. 735 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: We'll find out dress accordingly accordingly. 736 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 3: I'll be interested to see. I mean, heads up to 737 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 3: everyone listening. Set your expectations real low on any sort 738 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 3: of footage you can see from practice. 739 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: It's going to be a little bit different operating on 740 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: Denver Bronco rules. I eat Sean Payton rules. 741 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 3: That's how it works is when you are the away 742 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 3: team at a joint practice, everybody was or that's outside media, 743 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 3: internal media, that you follow the rules of the home team, 744 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 3: in this case the Broncos. So there will not be 745 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 3: a lot of actual practice footage, not just on cameras, 746 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 3: on phones as well. So I mean, stay stay locked 747 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 3: in on Twitter and stuff. I mean we'll be tweeting 748 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 3: out our observations. We can still do that. I know, Craig, 749 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 3: you'll have Cardinals cover too after that joint practice with 750 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 3: some someone from Eyes On It's on the ground, Darren Wold, great, 751 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 3: Darren Irvan doing his part. So yeah, it should be 752 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 3: fun and I am I am intrigued how that second 753 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 3: preseason game looks, whether or not the starters play, and 754 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 3: then the trickle down effect of special teams. Right, do 755 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 3: you see Dorch in Dallas? Does Jacoby Brissette see a 756 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 3: lot of reps? That'll be interesting to see. So if 757 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 3: you are, we get to see Zach Allen time him 758 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 3: by the. 759 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: Way, Tell Zach Klow, tell Vance Joseph. Two good people 760 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: and great individuals in the NFL. Yeah, The preseason game 761 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: number two is Saturday, August sixteenth, six thirty pm. Two 762 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: thirty pm, pregame coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network. 763 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 1: You can if you're watching the game, just make sure 764 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: you've got Paul and AQ on the radio. Unless you 765 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: see Danny on TV, then you turned down Paul and 766 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 1: AQ and turn up Danny. 767 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 3: That's a great plan. We have fun, though, I will say, yeah, 768 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 3: we had fun. It was Sam Ocho that was his 769 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 3: first time in the broadcast booth with Dave Pash and 770 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 3: I thought that the two of them did a really 771 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 3: nice job together. 772 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: The TV overall, the whole broadcast outstanding. Loved hearing Acho 773 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: and on the radio side, AQ making his debut was 774 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: outstanding with Paul, and I do think yeah, the Cardinals 775 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 1: did well. Needing two individuals to replace one in. 776 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 3: Ron Wolflee Auta a former Cardinal. He played with Kalays Campbell, 777 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 3: so he had some very unique insights and perspectives. 778 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: And Otcho will be there, I believe, for the practice 779 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: on Thursday. 780 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, good stuff, agreed, should be fun. 781 00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,720 Speaker 1: Better get to packing, Danny. 782 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 3: I got to finish the laundry I was doing over 783 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 3: the weekend before I get to packing. 784 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: Craig, all right, we'll let Danny go handle all the 785 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: duties outside of work. You know, life happens, You've got to. 786 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 3: Do everything else I feel, I mean, yeah, enough hours 787 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 3: in the day during training camp. No, which is this 788 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 3: is still technically all part of camp. 789 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 1: It is, although it doesn't quite feel like it, but 790 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: the coaches and players are operating like it is still 791 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: training camp. But to be back in the building here, 792 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: it just feels like, gave me back, all right. Good stuff. 793 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 1: On that notes, we'll put a lit on this edition 794 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 795 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive 796 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: producer Jim Mama Hundre, our associate producer Cody Fincher for 797 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: Danny Surrek, I'm Craig Rayal Lou. We'll talk to you 798 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 1: next time here on Cardinals Cover two.