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Speaker 1: Wowow hey everybody, It's Monday, August eighteenth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we are

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Speaker 1: not drafting Wandale Robinson in the third round. Your man

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Speaker 1: named g Marcus graduated by Michael f Florio and Lakwan Jones.

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Speaker 1: So all right, full disclosure. Like, I had other things

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Speaker 1: going on this weekend, so I didn't really get to

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Speaker 1: the rundown. So I'm trying to figure out which one

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Speaker 1: of you two wrote that I wrote it, but it's

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Speaker 1: about him. Yes, I didn't write it. I was really

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Speaker 1: surprised that I made it in the rundown. What's going on?

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Speaker 1: I was sitting there last night like what can I do?

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Speaker 2: And then send us a text of someone in his

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Speaker 2: home league taking what And I even was like, okay,

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Speaker 2: he's sending.

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Speaker 1: Us Oh yeah, oh wait locker, I didn't see I

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Speaker 1: missed that part of the text. The part that I

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Speaker 1: was fixed on was Travis Hunter at the one on one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I missed that. Like there was so much going on

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Speaker 1: in this league where I'm just like where am I?

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Speaker 1: Your home league is chaos, man, chaos, Like I almost

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Speaker 1: wanted to leave because I was like, wait, that had

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Speaker 1: to be a mistake, like Wando Robinson in the third round.

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Speaker 3: But then I'm like, wait, wait, wait, Travis Hunter just

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Speaker 3: went one oh one, Like what are we believing in?

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Speaker 1: This is a one quarterback PPR league. This is the

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Speaker 1: regular of all leagues. I was gonna ask you if there's

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Speaker 1: the points for snap's played.

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Speaker 3: No one's hosting dreams, That's what it is, because it's

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Speaker 3: just like Travis.

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Speaker 1: Hunter at the one o one is insane. This is

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Speaker 1: why I remind people, by the way, if you are

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're an analyst or if you're just

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Speaker 1: somebody who's deep in the fantasy street. I'm playing these

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Speaker 1: like these high stakes leagues go draft with like casual folks.

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Speaker 1: Like people don't because it's a different world. Like your

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Speaker 1: head will be on a swivel. Which pick do you

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Speaker 1: think is crazy?

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Speaker 2: Crazier Hunter one oh one or Wandel in the middle

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Speaker 2: of the third dale, I think that it gotta.

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Speaker 3: Be wonder But he's been getting a lot of camp love,

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Speaker 3: and you see the videos and like you see Russell

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Speaker 3: Wilson trying to target him deep down the field, where

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Speaker 3: I'm like, well, we're not getting that close to the

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Speaker 3: line of scrimmage guy, No more giant.

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Speaker 1: Uh No, there's this is what's crazy when you jump

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Speaker 1: back into fantasy so late in it. And I say

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Speaker 1: late for us because we're degenerates. We're all we've been

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Speaker 1: here for a while.

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Speaker 3: When you opened that fantasy scrap book of like the

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Speaker 3: notes and cheet sheets and et cetera, and it's like

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Speaker 3: the second week of August, this is exactly what you get.

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Speaker 1: Well, also, I'm assuming your home league is East Coast based,

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Speaker 1: so the news that they are getting it's cycled. But

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Speaker 1: it's also very Jets and Giants focus, you know, so

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Speaker 1: I can see how that would happen. Look, I played

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Speaker 1: in the league once I lived in Presno, California, and

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Speaker 1: Ryan Matthews had just been I drafted from Fresno State

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Speaker 1: to the Chargers. I haven't heard that right, But I

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Speaker 1: played in the league with a bunch of Fresno State

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Speaker 1: guys and Ryan Matthews was the number two overall pick.

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Speaker 1: There was a stretch where like like that was crazy,

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Speaker 1: but like the craziest I've ever seen in any draft.

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Speaker 1: But hey, more power to you. Did not expect to

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Speaker 1: take this detour to start the show anyway. Today's show

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about some guys we love in the

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Speaker 1: middle rounds. Today, we'll pick guys that we like in

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Speaker 1: rounds five through eight. Uh, then on Wednesday we will

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Speaker 1: do nine through twelve, and then Thursday's show or Friday show.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they are we releasing these shows.

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Speaker 1: I think Friday, Yeah, figure it out. Let's figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Whatever that show is going to be rounds thirteen through sixteen.

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Speaker 1: So we'll kind of help you with guys that we like,

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Speaker 1: sort of in the middle to late rounds to kind

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Speaker 1: of help because we know a lot of drafts are

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Speaker 1: coming up in the next week or two, so I'm

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Speaker 1: giving you some some thoughts to talk about. Also, we'll

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Speaker 1: kind of recap week two of the preseason, what we saw,

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Speaker 1: what we liked. I was patting myself on the back

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Speaker 1: about Elik Ioman or Yeah, you had a big catching

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Speaker 1: catch and run, like one of one of only two

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Speaker 2: I think it was you guys are standing. I think

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Speaker 1: That just amazing I have called it. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Had to catch that ball man. That would have been

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Speaker 2: such a highlight, like, yeah, cam Ward would have finally

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Speaker 2: been talked about, right, and Van Jefferson was like, Nope,

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Speaker 1: Looks good though, I mean he looks good in totality.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, might have something this year. Although

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Speaker 1: Crammore does say the offense is mid. Yeah, the offense

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Speaker 1: is very mid. So all right, speaking of mid, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the Colts ship. Oh boy, the mid off

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Speaker 1: Shane Steichen says he is very close to making a

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Speaker 1: decision at quarterbacks. So I feel like we touched on

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Speaker 1: this a little bit last week. I know how Lakwan

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Speaker 1: feels about this whole thing. I'm asking you, I kind

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Speaker 1: of know how you feel about this whole thing too,

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Speaker 1: But choose your fighter, Anthony Richardson or Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: I'm going down with the ship man.

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Speaker 1: What am I? Dude?

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Speaker 2: I think I think Anthony Richardson looked really good the

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Speaker 2: other day, Like he had that one throw with pressure

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Speaker 2: I tweet and I was like, yeah, people are always like,

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Speaker 2: why can't you give up on Anthony Richardson And like

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Speaker 2: Lebron this is why I can't do it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think he looked good.

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Speaker 2: And I continue to say, man, if you're the Colts,

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Speaker 2: you need to see what you have in him, right

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Speaker 2: Like Daniel Jones could be a stop gap for this year,

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Speaker 2: maybe help you, but but he's on a long term answer.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson could be a long term answer.

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Speaker 1: We don't know yet.

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Speaker 2: And I think if you're the Colts, your number one

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Speaker 2: goal for this season should be to see what you

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Speaker 2: haven't Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 1: So then lakwan if it is Richardson that wins this gig,

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Speaker 1: where are you on Michael Pittman, Josh Downs, Tyler Warren?

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Speaker 1: Like where do you come in on those guys.

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Speaker 3: Like even with the box who are like you look

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Speaker 3: at the number seventy three passing yards. If you weren't

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Speaker 3: watching a game, then you would not know that he

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Speaker 3: had like a big thirty eight yard pass negated by flag.

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Speaker 1: But there wasn't much separation.

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Speaker 3: Between Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson. And I do think

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Speaker 3: So I'm not totally out on the Colts pass catchers

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Speaker 3: just because Anthony Richardson made this race a little bit closer. Now,

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Speaker 3: I do feel like going into this season like it's

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Speaker 3: and I think obviously taking your shot to Ady Mitchell

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Speaker 3: think Michael Pittman, the injury concern is there, it's like

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Speaker 3: that Colts pass catcher, where it really shouldn't matter who

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Speaker 1: As to QB one, yeah, I mean I have been

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Speaker 1: encouraged by all the reports that Richardson was looking better

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Speaker 1: this year, right, and that he was running even and

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Speaker 1: sometimes ahead of Daniel Jones. I know, Florio you've said,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with you. I think if you're Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: you have to just outright win the job. I think

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Speaker 1: Richardson's gonna get the benefit of the doubt because of

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Speaker 1: he's making quicker passes too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was, like his passes were under the two

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Speaker 3: and a half seconds, which is like good for a quarterback,

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Speaker 3: compared to last week where it was like thirty three

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Speaker 3: just looking and making direction, hitting the ball where it

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Speaker 3: needs to go, That's exactly what the Colts want to see.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's what gets him on the field,

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Speaker 3: you know, QB one week one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just you know, he just needs to keep

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Speaker 1: his head on a swivel so he doesn't take hits

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Speaker 1: and so that his pinky thing continue to move is

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Speaker 1: important to the outside. When his hand is straight up

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Speaker 1: in the air, you know, the ship is coming uplurial

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Speaker 1: out of the water and I like, slightly coming up.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Warren to bust though for pass catching, right, That's

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Speaker 2: where I'm kind of I'm Tyler warning Like it was.

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Speaker 1: The Loveland thing was mostly about the draft capital spin,

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Speaker 1: and then when I started watching the Colts offense, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: oh no, they're scheming things up. I think he's going

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Speaker 1: to be their tough target they're trying to get.

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Speaker 3: He has to be He's going to be their biggest

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Speaker 3: playmaker of that because they're hitting him down the line,

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Speaker 3: they're hitting him long downfield, and like that's where the

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Speaker 3: yards are gonna come in that yak yards that he has. Boy,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a lot of points on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well we'll see about that. Hopefully a lot

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Speaker 1: of points on Sunday. Uh for she Rice. Last week

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Speaker 1: we were talking about the fact that his disciplinary hand

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Speaker 1: hearing was scheduled for September thirtieth, which would have been

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Speaker 1: about a month into the season. Now there's talk that

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Speaker 1: he could be suspended before the season. The NFL proposed

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Speaker 1: a ten games suspension. What what's better, Lakwan? Is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it to get him for a month and then

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Speaker 1: lose him for like six to eight games? Is it

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Speaker 1: just to just, you know, rip off the band aid

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Speaker 1: and have him gone for ten Like what is the better?

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Speaker 1: What is the better case scenario? Because they both seem bad.

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Speaker 1: They are both bad. It's like the same same but

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Speaker 1: different but still the same.

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Speaker 3: It's like bad, But I do like that in this

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Speaker 3: chaos of home league that I was in, I feel

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Speaker 3: like more casual fantasy to second round for no late

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Speaker 3: he went super and it's like that's the price he

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Speaker 3: should be going at, Like he should be only a

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Speaker 3: wide receiver four or five target like later in those

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Speaker 3: drafts to like get that reinsurance on your wide.

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Speaker 1: Receiver roster corps. So it's like people who are.

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Speaker 3: Just now coming back outside, they hate suspensions, Like that's

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Speaker 3: the one thing. Like all the casual folks are playing

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Speaker 3: for week one, So for him to drop as far

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Speaker 3: as he did in those later rounds, that's where I'm

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Speaker 3: targeting him in drafts because I think either way, if

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Speaker 3: we get him the first four weeks, cool, we get

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Speaker 3: those points and suspended for like eight to ten games,

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Speaker 3: he'll be back for the fantasy playoffs if you draft

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Speaker 3: properly and have a strong wide receiver corps. So having

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Speaker 3: that reinforcements going to the playoffs, I absolutely still want

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Speaker 3: to buy in no matter the outcome of the suspension.

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Speaker 1: I just I just struggled to know that I might

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Speaker 1: be burning a bench spot for Ay. You got folks

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Speaker 1: out there drafting Kyle Pitts, man, that's a bench spot.

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Speaker 2: Like price was going where Kyle Pitts was going, i'd

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Speaker 2: be but I to me, if he suspended before the year,

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Speaker 2: I don't think fantasy playoffs. You're throwing a guy you

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Speaker 2: To see because like what if there's a snap count

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Speaker 1: in the East. Joe Flacco's your starting quarterback for the Browns.

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Speaker 1: to be seen all right, So we decided to look

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Speaker 1: at rounds five through eight based on ADPs and pick

436
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Speaker 1: out some guys or groups of guys that we love

437
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Speaker 1: drafting in those rounds. We each have a couple in

438
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Speaker 1: this scenario, Sili Kwan, who is your first sort of

439
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Speaker 1: mid round maybe not necessarily value, but guy or guys

440
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Speaker 1: that you love like in those rounds. Like, I'm looking,

441
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Speaker 1: can I make my wide receiver room stronger, because that's

442
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Speaker 1: obviously like my strategy where I'm going this season, like

443
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Speaker 1: heavy wide receiver. If I could start two wide receivers,

444
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 1: it's still the same strategy as if I could start three.

445
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Speaker 1: So I feel like this is where you get your

446
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver fours and fives, and like the Stefan Diggs

447
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,640
Speaker 1: and the Matthew Golden's of the worlds like you can

448
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,679
Speaker 1: really strengthen with that high upside, because those are the

449
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 1: guys that I feel like you can honestly get like

450
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 1: a solid high end wide receiver two and that can

451
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Speaker 1: be your you know, if I have a bye week

452
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Speaker 1: or if I have an injury, these guys come in

453
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Speaker 1: as clear plug and plays. All right. I keep hearing

454
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Speaker 1: the name Matthew Golden popping up a lot lately. When

455
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Speaker 1: did when did we all flip? Like? When did when

456
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 1: did everybod Because remember they drafted Matthew Golden and we

457
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 1: were like, it's like one hundred and seventy people in

458
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Speaker 1: the room, and now all of a sudden, everybody's like

459
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Speaker 1: Matthew Golden could be interesting. I'm like, there's still eleventy

460
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Speaker 1: other wide receivers there, Like what changed for everybody? It's

461
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Speaker 1: guys dealing with injuries. I mean, you got Dobs. He

462
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 1: was dealing with a little banged up injuries. Christian Watson,

463
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Speaker 1: Christian Watson's but that's no surprise, Dull, I mean since

464
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Speaker 1: last season, Like his per injury rate is very high

465
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Speaker 1: right now, Like it's one of those things we already knew.

466
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Speaker 3: But Jayden Reid he's doing push ups and walking boots

467
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Speaker 3: and stuff like that, like trying to show he's still

468
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Speaker 3: got it, Like I'm the wide receiver one. Like he's

469
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Speaker 3: pumping his chest. That's all ego to me right there

470
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Speaker 3: by the way.

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Speaker 1: Just I saw that like doing push ups with I mean,

472
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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it.

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Speaker 3: Just but Jane Reid, he's not none of the twelve

474
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Speaker 3: personnel packages. He's not out there being used as a

475
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Speaker 3: Matthew gold.

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Speaker 2: I still think y Reid is awesome though, but that

477
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Speaker 2: is of course crux. You don't use him in two

478
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Speaker 2: wide receivers.

479
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's about to be Marvin Mimes where he's going

480
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 3: to be used sprinkled in at certain times. That no,

481
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Speaker 3: I think, I know. I do think he's better than that.

482
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Speaker 3: He'll do what Marvin Mimmes does at a very limited

483
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Speaker 3: snap role at a better rate. I do think that

484
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Speaker 3: that's what it's starting to look like.

485
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Speaker 2: Well, they play a lot of three wide receiver sets,

486
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Speaker 2: so I like Jayden Reid could like there. To me,

487
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Speaker 2: I don't think anything has changed in this Packers receiving room.

488
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Speaker 2: Like I think there's plenty of weeks where Jaden Reid

489
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Speaker 2: is their top target. I think there'll be weeks where

490
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Speaker 2: Romeo Dobbs gets his two touchdowns or whatever, and then

491
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Speaker 2: there'll be golden weeks. Like I just think it's going

492
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Speaker 2: to be. It's how they like to play. They like

493
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Speaker 2: to spread the ball out and like Tucker Kraft will

494
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Speaker 2: have a game here or there, it's gonna.

495
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Speaker 3: Be we got Loot musk Grave too. But that's why

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Speaker 3: I think they're going more towards that twelve because they

497
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Speaker 3: got Loop Musgrave there where. He's fast. He's one of

498
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Speaker 3: those athletic tight ends as well. And with Tucker Craft,

499
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Speaker 3: we know he's the yacht king. Like I think those

500
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Speaker 3: are two weapons that could be mixed into this offense

501
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Speaker 3: with Dobbs on the perimeter and Golden playing as like

502
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Speaker 3: a one essentially as the new shiny toy.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think Read ever goes fully away.

504
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Speaker 1: Now he's gonna get used like Marvin Mims, Like I

505
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Speaker 1: said that sprinkled in. He's banged up right now. So

506
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Speaker 1: he's coming into this season.

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Speaker 2: He's the veteran in that.

508
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Speaker 3: I think Golden he's shaking the room. I'll say that

509
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Speaker 3: just watching the clips, it's like there's every clip you're

510
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Speaker 3: seeing like he could do everything.

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Speaker 1: I don't doubt that. It's just that's just not the

512
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Speaker 1: way the Packer offense operate. I mean, you hat Matt

513
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Speaker 1: laflor last should be like we don't have an epide?

514
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Speaker 1: Was it the idea of make of talking about a

515
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: number one receiver makes me sick to my stomachainst me nauseus.

516
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Speaker 1: Whatever it is, like, that's just not And then.

517
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Speaker 3: All his wide receivers ended up crashing out Romeo dobsons

518
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Speaker 3: Man and Jayden Reid having his agent tapp in like, yo,

519
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 3: I'm the wide receiver one right, Like that's what caused that.

520
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Speaker 1: Like, but you think that's gon You think mattl Fluir

521
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Speaker 1: shook now and be like, oh we gotta feed somebody

522
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Speaker 1: draft Matthew Golden in the first and so yeah, I

523
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Speaker 1: don't think there you go. I don't think he shook

524
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Speaker 1: like that. He's just like, let's just add another funko

525
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Speaker 1: pop to the run. That was. That's all that was, Florida.

526
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Speaker 1: Who do you like in this range?

527
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Speaker 2: We're talking like fifth, sixth, seventh, right, like yeah, pretty

528
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Speaker 2: much every running back that goes in that range. Like,

529
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Speaker 2: so that's why I like to get receivers early. I'll

530
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Speaker 2: go hero Orb probably take one in like round two,

531
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Speaker 2: load up on receivers in like one, three, four.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But look at the running I mean, Trevion is starting

534
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Speaker 2: to get priced out of that range, but all summer

535
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Speaker 2: long Henderson was in that range. You have James Connor,

536
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Speaker 2: who I think is universally yearly underappreciated. Kenneth Walker's in

537
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 2: that range, who I think brings league winning upside, you

538
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: have Pachecko there, DeAndre Swift, I like a lot, Like

539
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Speaker 2: there's no Marion Hampton is getting priced out of that range,

540
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Speaker 2: but he was in there for a bit. Like I

541
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Speaker 2: just love the running backs in that range, and because

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Speaker 2: they're so like I wrote the top ten running back

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Speaker 2: values in for NFL dot Com and they're pretty much

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Speaker 2: all these round five through seven guys, because I just

545
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Speaker 2: think they're like, put Checko to me, is someone that

546
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Speaker 2: should be like two rounds higher, but he's not. So

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna just keep taking what I think is a

548
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Speaker 2: huge value there, all of these names that I meant.

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Speaker 1: R J.

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Speaker 2: Harvey is another one in that range. Like I love

551
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Speaker 2: all Caleb Johnson if you wait a little bit, Jordan Mason,

552
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Speaker 2: Like it's so much talent. Names keep popping into my

553
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Speaker 2: head and uh yeah, so just get your receivers early

554
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Speaker 2: because in those middle rounds you're going to be able

555
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Speaker 2: to get running backs that you could start weekly and

556
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Speaker 2: feel very confident about it.

557
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Speaker 1: And it's pretty much my approach in every draft I've

558
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Speaker 1: done so far. You mention in the name Caleb Johnson

559
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Speaker 1: and I saw a report that basically so it's like

560
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: reports with Camper like he looks like Najie Harris but

561
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Speaker 1: maybe not as glove. Same same, but still that seems

562
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Speaker 1: sort of like it feels it kind of feels like

563
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Speaker 1: we're watching Najie Harris right now. And Caleb Johnson was

564
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Speaker 1: drafted to be better than nag He's nause with more speed,

565
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Speaker 1: but get a good night's sleep on a sleep good

566
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Speaker 1: putting on his highlights. That is true.

567
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Speaker 2: But the thing is like everyone's hyping up Kenneth gain Well.

568
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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh yeah, in year five, yeah, suddenly becomes something.

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Speaker 2: And then Jalen Warren. It's like they they know what

570
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Speaker 2: they've had in Jalen Warren, and they went out and

571
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Speaker 2: they added Caleb Johnson. And last year Arthur Smith used

572
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Speaker 2: Warren even less than he was.

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Speaker 1: The prior year. So fantasy right there. I still think

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Speaker 1: that work again. Caleb Arthur Smith loves big backs like

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Speaker 1: John New.

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Speaker 3: Really, he will hand him the ball on the goal

577
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Speaker 3: line probably, I'm gonna call it now. It's gonna probably

578
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Speaker 3: be in the first couple of weeks where John New

579
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Speaker 3: is gonna get a handoff in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be like, oh yeah, I forgot who's on

581
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Speaker 1: the sticks, Arthur Smith. I mean that actually that actually

582
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Speaker 1: seems okay because like people will have John new Smith,

583
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Speaker 1: it's when Darnell Washington gets the hand off on the

584
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Speaker 1: really gonna be salty. Have you seen that man, Darnell Washington. Yes,

585
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Speaker 1: he's a human on human on human, he's a unit.

586
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Speaker 1: Why haven't they been using him in the red zone

587
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: free fire move? I don't know. This is what I'm

588
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: salty about. You just taking a sniper shots in Jamison Williams,

589
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, because I love I love him in

590
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Speaker 1: the middle round. I didn't even see him in the

591
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Speaker 1: run down. I love him in the middle rounds. I've

592
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Speaker 1: been Johnson and Jamison Williams where I can because I so.

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Speaker 1: My hot ish take is he could end up being

594
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Speaker 1: the Lions leading receiver this year. I don't think that's

595
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Speaker 1: take everyone.

596
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Speaker 2: But to me, I'm not like, oh my god, I'm like,

597
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Speaker 2: oh yeah, that that could happen.

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Speaker 3: But that makes me more down on a man like

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Speaker 3: he's going further in that first round, like in the

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Speaker 3: back of the year, falling a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you want Jameson as well?

602
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Speaker 1: But I'm not saying I don't want Jameson I was

603
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: just making an example just in case if he was

604
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: the fall off expectations, like this is the route you

605
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: go with the Stefan Diggs should just plug and play.

606
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: And maybe it's a little bit of him taking away

607
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: from but I don't think it's like significantly enough. Like

608
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Speaker 1: if you take I think you have more receiving yards. Yeah,

609
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: I'm okay saying, yeah, it's probably not gonna be more catches,

610
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Speaker 1: but maybe more yards any thing. It's still worth taking

611
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: ours at the end of the first round. Yeah, early,

612
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: So you know, if somebody falls early second rate, great, great,

613
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: he's still gonna be good enough to take in that spot.

614
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Speaker 1: But I think this is when we see Jamison Williams

615
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Speaker 1: truly make the leap. Right, he had a thousand yards

616
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Speaker 1: last year, first time he finally had a normal off season. Right,

617
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 1: he wasn't rehabbing an injury, he wasn't dealing with the suspension.

618
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: He got to be there and we saw what he

619
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Speaker 1: can do, and so I think this is the year

620
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Speaker 1: that he really goes to the next level. I know

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Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator John Morton has taken over. By the way,

622
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: not to be confused with former USC and Detroit Lions

623
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Speaker 1: wide receiver Johnny Morton. They are two different people. They

624
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: are two very different But I think, you know, John

625
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: Morton's gonna figure out how to get the ball. Like

626
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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about Aman Rah, I'm not worried about

627
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Speaker 1: Jamior Gibbs. I think they're gonna find ways to use

628
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: Jamis and Williams as more than just a field stretcher.

629
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Speaker 1: Haut in space. Let him use the speed megawork.

630
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Speaker 2: But with his field like I think what goes under

631
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: Like everyone is talking about what the Lions might suffer

632
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: without Ben Johnson, and I get it, But they threw

633
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,239
Speaker 2: the deep ball at like. They were a bottom two

634
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: deep ball team every year he was there. So more

635
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: deep balls is not only good for Jameis and Williams,

636
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: It's good for everyone on the offense. And they were

637
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: also the run heaviest offense in the red zone. What

638
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: if they start throwing more when they get closer to

639
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: the goal line, like that could be more.

640
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: Touchdowns for the pass catchers.

641
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: Like it. I think this could be a good thing

642
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: for fantasy purposes, maybe not for real life purposes.

643
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: But and everyone's only talking about it as a negative

644
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: side that this is the first year. I think I'm

645
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: fading David Montgomery. It feels like that. Yeah, feels like

646
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: the Fantasy years are kind of just I just because

647
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Speaker 1: I think this is the year they go all in

648
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: on Jami or Gibbs. Yah. Basically, I mean Jason Camenda,

649
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Speaker 1: I mean you know former lines, you know, linebacker, fullback.

650
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: He was saying like how there could be more on

651
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: the table for Gibbs, and I'm like, wait a second.

652
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: Gibbs just had like three hundred touches last season. Yeah,

653
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: like what could be more there?

654
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: So that he got me thinking like I could take

655
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: him off at the one oh flash by and feel

656
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: confident about Gibbs being in that top three or the

657
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: RB one.

658
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: Overall, I'm good.

659
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: It goes under the rudder.

660
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: He was the RB one last year.

661
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: One didn't play week eighteen, but in weeks through seventeen

662
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 2: it was Saquon. But like, yeah, like I think Gibbs

663
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: is that good and Monty feels like a not a

664
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: benefactor of Ben Johnson, but like that was bary Ben

665
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: Johnson skew.

666
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I say I drafted him in I

667
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: think I drafted him in The King's Classic. But it

668
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,719
Speaker 1: was one of those things where it just sort of

669
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: fell right, you know, like I wasn't. I wasn't like

670
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, yeah, I can you know, we

671
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: can work with this. This is gonna be fine sort

672
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: of thing. So I've been a big Monty guy or

673
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: David Montgomery.

674
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: I'd still take Monty. Yeah, costs, that's a discussion.

675
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think I just think when you factored in,

676
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: the Lions are gonna score more touchdowns. Like that's the thing,

677
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: Like the whole point of this game is to score

678
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: score points. I do think we're going to get a

679
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: Jared Goof season this year, though, because I think John

680
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: Moore wants to be aggressive more throwing downfield, and this

681
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: is where golf shows his old self and that rams Jersey.

682
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: I think it it won't be as good for real life,

683
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: but I think it could be better. Like I think

684
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: golf ceiling is higher now, and that's something that's not

685
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: getting talked about because more touchdowns in the red zone

686
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: and more deep balls could just naturally lead to like

687
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: it's a more turn over, but it all lead to

688
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: better counting.

689
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: So golfer Kyler because that's kind of where the ADPs are.

690
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: Because I haven't taken Kyle.

691
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: I think I'm taking Kyler he can run. Yeah, yeah,

692
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: I think I'm taking Kyler. Uh. Speaking of qbs though,

693
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: you like some qbs in Yeah, this is where the

694
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: QB one should be going. Like, you don't have to

695
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: pay that premium price for the Jayden Daniels to Joe

696
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: Burrows Josh Allen, No, you don't. You don't have to

697
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: because I can give you wat Yeah, if you want those.

698
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: Guys, I get it. But there's guys that have that

699
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: same type of ceiling. Like again, this is where the

700
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, the Dak Presscotts, the bow Knicks, like all

701
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 3: these guys. I could wait in these rounds where I

702
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: can get the elite qb ones that have that type

703
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: of upside, Like elite is in terms of like real life,

704
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: Like Dak he's on that table to be elite because

705
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: we know it's forty five hundred yards forty plus touchdowns

706
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: are on the table this year with Pickens and CD

707
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 3: so like he can honestly be a top three quarterback

708
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: and look where you're getting them in those mid rounds.

709
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 3: So it's not always the same game plan to go

710
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: in the third round and get it like a Lamar

711
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: Jackson or whatever, because what's the difference between one and

712
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: three When it comes to Dak and Lamar. At the

713
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: end of the day, you're having a QB one at

714
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: the elite ceiling that's going to give you that twenty

715
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 3: plus fantasy points per game.

716
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: I feel if you're taking Dak, that's a I mean

717
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: not a reach because I like, I think Dak's being underdrafted,

718
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: but he's going way later than that. Even Yeah, wait.

719
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 3: Outside like the top like the top ten rounds, Like

720
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: I think he's like living and breathing the eleventh round, right.

721
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: But you're talking like I see. I love the value

722
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: of waiting, Like Justin Fields is my guy. I love

723
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: waiting that range. But yeah, when you're taking the top five,

724
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: especially the top three, I think there's a there's three.

725
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, like their floors are QB fu. I just need

726
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: that twenty fantasy points per game.

727
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know you're getting that out of Lamar Jaden. Yes,

728
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: you don't know you're getting that out of Dak. You're

729
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: hoping to.

730
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: Get that out of Hoping. But the pieces that are

731
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: there just kind of indicate like, hey, but Lamar and Alan.

732
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: And Jayden are going to be probably like twenty three

733
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: twe because they have their legs.

734
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 1: They have their legs as well. I mean, so I

735
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: understand the value of going early at quarterback. It's not

736
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: it's not my way, but I understand it. So I'm

737
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: gonna leap frog you here.

738
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: And I don't like going the Joe Burrow route though.

739
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: I feel like you're paying the elite price and you're

740
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: not getting any.

741
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: Russian production young getting. But but he's good enough throwing

742
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: the ball where it.

743
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: He put up complete video game numbers last year and

744
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: he was the QB three.

745
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: I think Dak could do that. I think Dak has

746
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: a Burrow of last year season.

747
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: But their ceiling is like QB three four in that range.

748
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: Like you need to run to be the QB one.

749
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: You can't be it without running. That's true. So I'm

750
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: gonna leap prog you here because my guy is Patrick Mahomes.

751
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

752
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: I did not see the run because my guy is

753
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, because he has dropped out of that elite

754
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: tier of quarterbacks, right. I mean, people are sort of

755
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: talking about a big five where you're looking at Lamar,

756
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: Josh Burrow, Jayden and Jalen hurts. People are talking about

757
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes in that group, at least not right now.

758
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: I think this is the year he gets back to that. Now.

759
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know that he's QB one, but

760
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: I think he certainly gets back in the top five,

761
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: maybe even the top three. The Chiefs seem very adamant

762
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: that they want to be more vertical offensively. Travis Kelcey

763
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: can say that, you know, being an entertainer sort of

764
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: distracted him from football. I want to say that father

765
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: time is coming up and maybe tapping him on the

766
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: shoulder a little bit. And I think the Chiefs see

767
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: that and realize they can't necessarily succeed on one hundred

768
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: and fifty targets, you know, at seven or eight yards

769
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: downfield to Travis kelce They've got to be better than that.

770
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: So I think you're gonna see that this year. You know,

771
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: some of it is keeping Marquise Brown healthy, it's expanding

772
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: Xavier Worthies role, it's figuring out what in the hell

773
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: is going on with Rashi Rice, like all these things

774
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: we are factor into that. The other part of this

775
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: is though, yeah, Mahomes doesn't run the way Lamar or

776
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: Jaden runs, but he runs just enough to break your heart. Right,

777
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: he's got sneaky rushing, leaky rushing ability. Right, Uh, he

778
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: will run. I mean you know, we all we've all

779
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: seen it, right Patrick Wullins, it's third and eight, he

780
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: runs for ten. Yeah, you know, first down. Oh oh,

781
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: we've seen it very very where Marcus was going waiting

782
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: for you to yeah, like we've all seen it. So

783
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: I think this is the year he sort of gets

784
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: back into that elite top tier of guys. And right now,

785
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: this is probably the cheapest Mahomes has been in a

786
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 1: really really long time. I've been taking advantage of that word.

787
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: I was hoping he would be cheap because remember, like

788
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 2: after last season, there was a lot of like, Mahomes

789
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 2: is not a QB one anymore, Like yeah, and now

790
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 2: he's for right, A lot of people were saying it,

791
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: and I was like, but you're going to be strapped

792
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: to a guy that is a household name.

793
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: You're gonna be looking at your roster every Sunday like

794
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 3: why aren't you playing to your name value? Like that's

795
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 3: literally what you're going to be strategied.

796
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 2: Hit a point last year where I played Genal Smith

797
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: over him.

798
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: Like that looks crazy. You were writing articles sitting Patrick

799
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: Mahomes like, it got pretty ugly.

800
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: But I thought because of that we'd have a like

801
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: I do.

802
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: I do think he's a fair value.

803
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: Where he's going QB six, you get a gap between

804
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: him and the top five. I just was hoping it

805
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: would be even bigger.

806
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I still think there's still a little bit

807
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: of that again, the muscle memory, right, Like people say

808
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, I can't really take him in the

809
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,479
Speaker 1: third round like I used to, but he gets the sixth,

810
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: seventh round. Everybody's like, dude's still Patrick. You can sell

811
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: yourself so easily. It's still Patrick maho.

812
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: Like the whole football watching world admits that he is

813
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: the best quarterback in the world, but then in fantasy.

814
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 1: We're like, all right, chill out again. This also goes

815
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: back to my rant that I've done past seasons where

816
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: it should not be a strategic disadvantage to take the

817
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: best player at the most difficult position in all of sports. Right,

818
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: it's not. It shouldn't be that way, but we've made

819
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: it because of scoring. In roster construction, were like, if

820
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: you take Patrick Mahomes earlier, if you take whatever Josh

821
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: Allen Early, it's like, like that doesn't make sense. You

822
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: could take the best wide receiver at the number one pick,

823
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: you could take the best running back to the number

824
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: one pick, but you take the best quarterback then, and

825
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: it's just like, bro, are you okay because your first draft.

826
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: The thing is what Mahomes is like if he throws

827
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: up two hundred yards in a game, but he wins

828
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 3: that game in a fashion where it's like only a

829
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: great quarterback can do that, that plays into his name value.

830
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 3: That's why we're painting this picture for us. On Sundays

831
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: when I look, he's like, oh, he won this game

832
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 3: and it's twelve points.

833
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: Oh, this sucks. Yeah he won. Yeah, he's the greatest

834
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: to ever do it, but this sucks to even hit.

835
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: A point last year where we were sick of him

836
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 2: winning that the way he was doing enough of.

837
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: This sucking fantasy. There was a lot of Jesse Pinkman,

838
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: he can't.

839
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: We were just over Mahomes.

840
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: Like it's like, how you know, if Isaiah likely had

841
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: a half half shoe sized smiler, you know that story

842
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: would have been so if he was like, you know,

843
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: if if his foot was like a size eleven instead

844
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: eleven and a half or.

845
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: Whatever, Kevin Duranton like it would.

846
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: Have been touchdown and Chiefs lost. Anyway, that's.

847
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: You got who's your Calvin Ridley, because I mean it's

848
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: a yearly thing.

849
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: I love Calvin Ridley.

850
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: I think he's a really good wide receiver, and I

851
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: think cam Ward is the quarterback to get the most

852
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: out of him because he's got that strong arm. I

853
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: like that they're not forcing him to be the X

854
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: or letting him still play the why because I think

855
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 2: that's where he's most comfortable. But yeah, I just expect

856
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: a tall like the Titans are gonna be getting their

857
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: doors blown off most weeks because their defense is just

858
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: not very good, so they're gonna be in ketchup mode

859
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 2: and cam Ward is going to lock in on Calvin.

860
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 2: Like Calvin Ridley was a wide receiver three last year

861
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 2: with Will Levis and Mason Rudolph, you pay wide receiver

862
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 2: three price to get him this year. I think cam

863
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: Warden is.

864
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: A god strapper rocket to his back because I am

865
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: a Calvin Ridley. Like the yards touchdowns they're gonna go

866
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: up because cam Ward is gonna target him deep downfield.

867
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: And this is where You're gonna be able to get

868
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: those chunk plays at the chunk plays. And the thing

869
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: is there's not much competition in that why. I mean

870
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: like these last two weeks has kind of been met,

871
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, Tyler Lockett. I mean like I manner making

872
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: a great play, but like that's about it. But the

873
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: gap between Calvin Ridley and the rest, He's going to

874
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: be hyper focused. Like I'm looking at one hundred and

875
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: forty targets for Calvin Ridley, Like that's how crazy. I

876
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: think the gap is going to be between him and

877
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: the other wide receivers in target share. Yeah, I don't.

878
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: I don't doubt that. And I even say this is

879
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: somebody who I've been on Io manor like all off season.

880
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: Like I also would admit though, like he's a late

881
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: round like he's a swing with upside sort of guy. Right,

882
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: Like I'm not drafting him and being like, yep, you're

883
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: my wide receiver three. Let's know you're a starting line.

884
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 2: Tyler Lockett's a real estate agent at this point. Van Jefferson,

885
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: Van Jefferson, come on, I will say Tyler Lockett nothing

886
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 2: against him.

887
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett going to Nashville makes a lot of sense though,

888
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: because like the real estate market and the sun Belt

889
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: is popping off right now. That was he was chess

890
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: nut checkers. Man. It's also the wide receiver retirement home

891
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: team too, so yeah, they're part of the collection, the Ravens,

892
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, like Julio Jones. Man, remember Julio Jones in

893
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: the Titans uniform? I remember him in the Eagles uniform. Yeah,

894
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: I remember the jump scare that that social media had

895
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: collectively everybody like, oh, that's rights for me.

896
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 3: That's like Tory Holet like with the Patriots and Jaguars,

897
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 3: I mean, like when did that happen?

898
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: Like that was really disgusting. Yeah, Jerry Rice and the Broncos.

899
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: Jersey just raised Jersey raised Jersey. Elija in a Raptor's uniform.

900
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

901
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: Patrick in the Magic I could go all down Celtics Jersey.

902
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: That was the discussing. I still think that Mike Piazza

903
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: should have gone in the Hall of Fames in Miami. Marlin.

904
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: That happened like in the middle. It wasn't even like.

905
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: He was WI bought far from his dealership. Was pretty really.

906
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah's also all the week that he was a Marlin.

907
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: He tanked an Italian soccer team, like they hate him

908
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 2: in Italy because he bought like a really local team

909
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: that people loved and then ran it into the ground.

910
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: It's like the opposite of welcome direction. Welcome, welcome directed.

911
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break, come back. We will kind

912
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: of go over Week two of the preseason some things

913
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: we saw, some things that we liked and wrap this

914
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: nonsense opposite for more of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

915
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: Week two of the preseason almost in the books, are

916
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: still a game on Monday night? Correct? Oh yeah, I

917
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: believe the the Commander.

918
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 2: There was no Sunday night game.

919
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, let's try j CM watch it's Bengals

920
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 1: and the Commanders. That game coming up tonight. So you can,

921
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, one last hit of the preseason for this

922
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 1: week at least until until next week thirty.

923
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: Ain't nothing Sunday night football never happened?

924
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: Is that what that game was?

925
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: Like?

926
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, what's going on here?

927
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, Bill, Sunday night, I'm excited.

928
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: Nope, No, what the Mets do last night? They want

929
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: in Williamsport? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. My friends and I

930
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: were sort of hoping that the major leaguers would brawl

931
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: in Williamsport. That would be awes, that would be hilarious.

932
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 1: Neither here nor there. Some of the things we saw though,

933
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: and we to JSN running half his routes from the slot.

934
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: You now that you are an official Cooper Cup hater.

935
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: Despite all the good things that man did for your team,

936
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: you kicked him to the curb and then got mad

937
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: at his choices afterwards. You don't go to the ops, bro, Like,

938
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: if I break up with you fired, you let the

939
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: man with company secrets walk out to the ops. You

940
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: let the man out the door. Anyway, js N runs

941
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: half of his routes from the slot. Is there? What

942
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: does this mean? I guess? Like, is he gonna push

943
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: Cup out of the slot? Is this just they're just

944
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: testing things out? Like I'm trying to figure ot what

945
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: this means.

946
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: Boom, Like, we don't want him playing half and half

947
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 3: out of the slot. We want him exclusively in the slot.

948
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: That's like a Cup, but it's not because we're accommodating

949
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: for Cooper Cub who's not gonna be able to win

950
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: on the outside as often as he used to. So

951
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna be cutting Jasn and half in production.

952
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: Like my expectations for him is like he's gonna be

953
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: on a run heavy offense and gonna be getting split

954
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: between out wide in the slot where we've seen him

955
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: exclusively playing the slot where we honestly want him to

956
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: play in a slot because that's where we got the

957
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: most fantasy production. So now this is gonna be a

958
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: weird year for Jasn.

959
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 3: Like I'm just totally just off the boat, Like my

960
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: expectations have come all the way down for him.

961
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are like, I haven't

962
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: drafted much of him just because you know, I don't know.

963
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: Maybe he can win on the outside. I don't know.

964
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: I think he could harder. Yeah, but it's like heres it.

965
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to find out

966
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: at the price I have to pay exactly, and you're

967
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: gonna pay a pretty penny. Yeah.

968
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: The one thing that I was talking with Scott Engel

969
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: obviously huge Seahawks fan, and he was as a Patriots fans,

970
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 2: a Patriots fan. Uh. He was saying he expects to

971
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: what the Rams do, like two slot receivers and just

972
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: like use Cup and Jasn in the slot.

973
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: It's not ideal like that.

974
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, I have dayson closer to water receiver twenty

975
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: than twelve, so I'm not gonna get him many time.

976
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just like I said, I think he can

977
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: do it, but you got to kind of pay a

978
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: premium to find out. I'm not really willing to do that.

979
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: Sometimes I can look at the rundown and figure out

980
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 1: who wrote what sentence Travion Henderson now calls the moon home.

981
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: Would you like to take a victory lap?

982
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: Sir, No, no, because he hasn't officially done anything officially.

983
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: I don't like this, Like I'm happy that everyone I

984
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: actually got a little In my tweeted on Saturday, I

985
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: was like, well, now everyone loves trav right.

986
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: But it's going to cost like a third fourth round pick. Now.

987
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: I loved getting him in the seventh round a month ago,

988
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: so uh yeah, I love Travion. I'm going to continue

989
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: to draft him. I think now is a more realistic price,

990
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: but a month ago felt way better.

991
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yes, it's I mean the closer you

992
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: have two week one, like you're late August drafts, Like

993
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 3: it gets dangerous for this because, like I look at

994
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 3: all my old teams.

995
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: In the best Walling.

996
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: I was getting him as my RB four and five

997
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 3: like it was disgusting value and like now being that

998
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: they need to put him in bubble rep, I don't

999
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 3: need to see no more preseason action.

1000
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to see no more camp highlights. Shut

1001
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: him down. We get it. He is the real deal.

1002
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: I took him.

1003
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 2: It was a fourteen team league a couple of days ago,

1004
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: but I took him on the two three swing because.

1005
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not going to get you, never

1006
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: going to get him after I took him over James Cook,

1007
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: which that might be a little spicy for some, but

1008
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: I do think. But the crazy thing is Hampton is

1009
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: still going off the board before him I took.

1010
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: I've always had him ahead of Hampton, so I took him.

1011
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: I see the fantasy streets are starting to wake up

1012
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 3: and listen because, like I mean, obviously, Trayvon Henderson's hero

1013
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 3: right here. But I was like, look, I'm standing on business.

1014
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: I got him over Hampton, and everybody just went bonkers

1015
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 3: when I said that two three weeks ago.

1016
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 1: So in sort of handicapping this Henderson Hampton battle, right, yeah,

1017
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: let me ask you. Let me ask it like this,

1018
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: who would you rather have Najie Harris or Ramandre Stevenson.

1019
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: Nausey well, if if nause is healthy.

1020
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: If he's okay, I mean assuming yes, assuming health right,

1021
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: nause or remindre I I would rather nausey right, which

1022
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: means you probably want Henderson over Henderson because Stevenson is

1023
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: not going to be the threat. He's not, like I

1024
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: look at Henderson where he's going to be on the

1025
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: field at least sixty percent of the time, because he's

1026
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: going to be the juice and function of this Patriots offense.

1027
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: Like we're still banking on digs.

1028
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 3: Kyle Williams is banged up right now, so we have

1029
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: to figure out who's going to step in and vacate

1030
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 3: those targets in his role. But Henderson looks like the

1031
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 3: obvious second target of this offense in terms of touches period.

1032
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: The reason I was.

1033
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: Henderson over Hampton even in the NFL draft was because

1034
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: I was like, this is not a guy like to me,

1035
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 2: Hampton needs twenty touches a week to live up to

1036
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: his upside. Yes, Henderson doesn't because he is such the

1037
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: ball times. If you can give him the ball twenty

1038
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: times and you'll get great results. But if you want

1039
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 2: to bring in two and limited to fifteen, he could

1040
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: still give you.

1041
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: Really, look at Bucky Irvin's usage, look at James Cook's usage.

1042
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: Like if we get just that but maybe a little

1043
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: bit more out of the passing game from Henderson, Oh

1044
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: my god, oh my god.

1045
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: In fantasy and it should not be like speed is

1046
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: a huge, huge factor in turning ten yards into fifty yards, you.

1047
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: Know, like that J Harvey, Ladies and gentlemen, I had

1048
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: to sneak we get it too much. Love to Henderson.

1049
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: We got to remember our J Harvey. What's up with

1050
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: all these the h backs? Henderson, Hey Hampton, it for

1051
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: h backs, Hbasa, it was there, It was there. I

1052
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: just had Isaah. But Checko looked like himself again. I

1053
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: did catch a few few plays of it, and I

1054
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: saw him stomping out, stomping out in the ground. Feel

1055
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: bad for that grass and assume man violent right, he

1056
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: had one touch.

1057
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: He reached seventeen miles per hour. He did that three

1058
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: times in all the games he played. Came back line,

1059
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: he's he's healthy again. He's back, which I feel because

1060
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: he's another guy who's sort of being under drafted. Yeah,

1061
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: I think hugely. He's paying because he tried to play

1062
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: through the injury.

1063
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: Lash. Yeah, but I did see him big jersey. Also

1064
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: another jersey runing like running like Roy can't, Like he

1065
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: was angry with the grass just for real, who's that

1066
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: Roy can't Ted? No, I'm only on like episode one.

1067
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: You love soccer? I know I started, but I don't

1068
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: have time.

1069
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 3: Man, I'm up to the point where it's the player

1070
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: I guess might have messed with the coach or the

1071
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: player's wife, the coach or whatever.

1072
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 1: Like it's the first couple. Oh yeah, you're got to

1073
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: show your whole family. You can watch the kids, watch

1074
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: with everybody. Yeah, it's fun. Ro Kid's great Harble. What's

1075
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: his name, Jason? Jason? Yes, Yes, they're bringing it back

1076
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: to which I don't really know that. Wait, they're bringing

1077
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: Horrible Bosses back. No, I was like another, I love

1078
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 1: that movie anyway, Ashton Gentz he looked great, asked Diamado

1079
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: Leonor who got trucked by Ashton?

1080
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: Ji, my gosh, look the first game he only had

1081
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: negative one yards.

1082
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: Oh my, so I don't know. He might be terrible. Yeah.

1083
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: I My concern with Jenz remains the same and basically that, like,

1084
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: how good is the Raider offense going to be? Like

1085
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: how many goal line opportunities is he going to get?

1086
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: You know, how do they use him out of the backfield?

1087
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: Does he get games scripted out? When the Raiders are

1088
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: inevitably playing from behind and Gino Smith's got to throw

1089
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: the ball twenty times in the second half. That's my fear.

1090
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: Has nothing to do with him as a player and

1091
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: everything to do just with the Raiders offense. But yeah,

1092
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: he looked great. He looked great running the ball this

1093
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: weekend as advertised.

1094
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, the angry runners up there getting made

1095
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 3: over there, Kyle because god Man, as advertised, I would

1096
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 3: say again, because I don't think this is surprising to

1097
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 3: see him run somebody over, Like we've seen enough of

1098
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: it out of his college tapes. But at the end

1099
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 3: of the day, I think he just he's going to

1100
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 3: be the function of this Raiders offense, and I think

1101
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: the offense is going to be very under the radar,

1102
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: and like Gino over there, he's fitting right in over

1103
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 3: there in Nevada, being with the Raiders culture. You know,

1104
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 3: that guy holding up the sign and he coming back

1105
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 3: with the Birds, you know, So I think the energy

1106
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 3: over there, it's high, and I think that Ashton Genty

1107
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: is going to be the actual motor.

1108
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I do it, And that's why I'm a little

1109
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: worried about Rock.

1110
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: Like I know we could jump ahead, let's let's get there.

1111
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 2: He was used in a really weird way, like Michael

1112
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: Mayer was playing over him. I don't worry about that

1113
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: translating into the regular season, although I do think a

1114
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: concern is like what if brock Powers gets pulled on

1115
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: running downs because I think Pete Carroll is going to

1116
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 2: run the ball a Ton Schip Kelly. They're going to run.

1117
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: And the thing that worries me, and you guys can

1118
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: speak on this better than me. You had him in

1119
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: your division for like two decades. Pete Carroll more than

1120
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 2: anything loves to just muck up games and keep them

1121
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: go scoring and control the clock. And like to me,

1122
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna just try to get Ashon Gent

1123
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: thirty touches a game because then he knows they have

1124
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: control of the clock to the very end. Like I

1125
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: don't expect a lot of like high flying numbers.

1126
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 3: From this Raiders of the ball they are because honestly,

1127
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 3: with Chip Kelly, and that Kirkcoxon and Pete Carroll, Like

1128
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 3: he could literally just be the identity of this offense

1129
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: where Brock Bauers, Like we didn't see him lyning about

1130
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 3: wide or to slot last week, Like it was just

1131
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: Michael Maher and him trying to bounceing off of that

1132
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: twelve personnel. And I think that, you know, that is

1133
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 3: a huge concern because if that translates to anything at

1134
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 3: any point of the season where Bowers is going where

1135
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 3: in the middle of the second round, early second round

1136
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,479
Speaker 3: in some leagues, Like, that's a pretty penny that people

1137
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 3: need to kind of pay attention to, Like the identity

1138
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 3: of this offense. It's not gonna be Brock Bowers.

1139
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: Only he's not the.

1140
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 3: Only one in the circus, Like he's not the only

1141
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 3: animal out there. I think the most exotic is Ashton Genty.

1142
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: Well.

1143
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: The other part of this is I like Michael Mayer

1144
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: coming out of cop Yeah, it's the guy who went

1145
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: to big school, went to Notre Dame. Is their all

1146
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: time leading receipt tight end, right, So I mean that's

1147
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: that's no small thing. And so when they drafted him,

1148
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, I'm cool in And then

1149
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: the very not sure they draft brock Bowers, And I

1150
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: was like, well, but who's to say that they don't

1151
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: try to work both guys in. I mean, Chip Kelly

1152
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: has done that before. He had two tight ends in

1153
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: Philly when he had Zach Ertz and Brent Selick. Right,

1154
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: he's figured out a way to try to operate with

1155
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: both of those guys. That's probably bad news for brock Bowers,

1156
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: right if they're using him more.

1157
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: If you're going to your draft right now, box scoring

1158
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 3: of last year sat to Bowers, You're gonna be in

1159
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 3: a rude awakening because, like most folks are not looking

1160
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: at this whole culture, this whole identity of this offense

1161
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 3: shifting right in front of our faces. So I do

1162
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 3: think like brock Bowers could be a guy that he

1163
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 3: should be going where Kittle should be going, like in

1164
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 3: that fourth fifth round. I would rather pay that price

1165
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 3: because I do think he's gonna have a good season.

1166
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 3: I think the touchdowns are going to go up, and

1167
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: I think we just see him use a little bit

1168
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 3: more efficiently in the red zone as well. So it's

1169
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 3: like there is opportunity for him to still be like

1170
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 3: a top five tight end. I'm just not grounding him

1171
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 3: number one right now.

1172
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 2: The Raiders last year were tenth in past percentage plays,

1173
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 2: and that's largely because they were like I don't think

1174
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 2: they're going to be top ten or any close to

1175
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 2: this year.

1176
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: If they are, that means things would really badly. He

1177
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: Karra wants the final score to be like twenty to sixteen.

1178
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: You know, he's not trying to run it up. Speaking

1179
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: of multiple tight ends, Cole Comet, Colston Lovelin splitting time,

1180
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: I feel like we haven't talked as much, certainly not

1181
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: enough about Cole Comet and the role that he had

1182
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: in that offense. Comet season. I'm not saying it's season,

1183
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: but I mean, I it does feel like we are

1184
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: underestimating what they want to do with him because he

1185
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: was productive. I mean, for what the Bears offense was

1186
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: last year, he was productive enough, I guess, and I

1187
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: guess it's weird that we all just sort of act

1188
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: acted like Colston Lovely is just gonna, like, you know,

1189
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: kick down the door and punt them aside, and that

1190
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,479
Speaker 1: was gonna be has not been the case.

1191
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 2: I don't see a world where Cole Comet is very

1192
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 2: fantasy relevant, but I very much see one where his

1193
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: presence prevents Loveland.

1194
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: He's in that Tyler Higbee tier. He won't be Fantasy relevant,

1195
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 1: but he will be on the field.

1196
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: He'll mess up. He'll take much from Loveland where neither

1197
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: one of them.

1198
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: Right, He's not gonna be great, but he's gonna mess

1199
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: up that dude to day, Yeah exactly.

1200
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 3: But there's really no rush on Loveland, Like there's really

1201
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 3: no rush room because cole Comett was very productive in

1202
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 3: that chaotic, you know, offense that they had last year.

1203
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 3: So I think like we're reports like where we're talking

1204
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 3: about cole Comet, like he's not being pushed aside, like

1205
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 3: he's still with the ones, Like he's still out there practicing.

1206
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 3: He's healthy right now, like he's doing good things in preseason,

1207
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,479
Speaker 3: like showing that he can operate in this offense under

1208
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson. So Loveland, I am saying far away in

1209
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 3: redraft like that should be a common He's going.

1210
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 2: Cheap enough now like when he was going top ten

1211
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,479
Speaker 2: tight end, I was paying that like Titan ten eleven price.

1212
00:54:58,560 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 1: But now he's.

1213
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 2: Falling and falling where I don't mind grabbing him as

1214
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 2: a two. I do not think he can be your

1215
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: only like you can't be starting him week one, but

1216
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: never as someone who sat there and watched every second

1217
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 2: of thirty eight nothing.

1218
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: Last night, Oh geez, I turn it off. I had

1219
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: to do a show on the game.

1220
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 2: You know, Like, so I was like, I unfortunately have

1221
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: to watch this.

1222
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: Oh my, I'm in.

1223
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: I was already in on the Bears offense, but I'm

1224
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: all in on the Bears offense.

1225
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, which gets us to the next thing about

1226
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: Romo Dunesay seeing time in the slot. I've been saying

1227
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: I think this is a big breakout year for Oduonzay. Same, yeah,

1228
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm not so what I see, you know, him seeing

1229
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: time in the slot. I'm not like, oh, they're making

1230
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: him a slot receiver. What it means to me is

1231
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: and he's sort of hinted at this from the beginning.

1232
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: They're just trying to move him all over the past. Yeah,

1233
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: they're just pieces. They're just trying to play matchups and

1234
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: get the best possible matchups for these guys. Because I

1235
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: know Ben Johnson likes o'doonsay and his physicality, his ability

1236
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: to get down field, his ability to high point the football.

1237
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 1: They want all of that. So now it's just the out. Okay,

1238
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 1: so how do we make this happen? And so seeing

1239
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: that he's in the slot sometimes seeing that he's outside,

1240
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: I think they want to try to put him in motion.

1241
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: They want to use more play action, Like that's what's

1242
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: exciting about this Bears offense. They're gonna do a lot

1243
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: of the things that they haven't done in years past

1244
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: because they know they've got these movable chess pieces and

1245
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: they want to get them involved.

1246
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: Lublin played out wide abate at times, just so he

1247
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 2: played it. And then there was a report that came

1248
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: out over the weekend that was like DJ Moore is seeing.

1249
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 1: Time all over the field in the backfield.

1250
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: It was fun. It's like Ben Johnson doesn't know what

1251
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 2: to do with him, and I'm like, no, he's trying

1252
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,439
Speaker 2: to get him the ball in as many they don't

1253
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: know possible, Like great, you want to give him the

1254
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 2: ball to the backfield, you want to put him in

1255
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: the slot, you want to put him out, do whatever

1256
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 2: you need to to just get him the ball ten

1257
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: times a game and good things will happen.

1258
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: Not to mention that doing all this in the preseason

1259
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: means at least the first couple of weeks teams that

1260
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: you play, it gotta be like kind of paying attention.

1261
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Like okay, well, now what where is he

1262
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: gonna line up? What does this mean? What are they

1263
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: gonna do? Like you got at least pay it and

1264
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: like look, maybe a month in the season were like, Okay,

1265
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: he's not really doing that, but at least you gotta

1266
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: you gotta think about it.

1267
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 2: The only negative I think from the Bears I now

1268
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 2: was Luther Burden was not with the Ones at all

1269
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 2: and he played deep into the.

1270
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: Rush Dynasty folks to chill out Dynasty.

1271
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: But in redraft, I think I think you could he

1272
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: seems like someone that the person.

1273
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: Who drafts him won't have the breakout. You say that though,

1274
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: la Quan like as though he won't have like a

1275
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: good game, and Dynasty folks are gonna be like, so, yeah,

1276
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: that's a different that's a different fantasy. They are playing

1277
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: for a future that the block. They're further up the block,

1278
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: and I just kind of know they got some craziness

1279
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: going on over there. Come on more before we get

1280
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: out of here. Braylan Allen playing eight snaps compared to

1281
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: Breeze Halls eleven, This is really gonna be a split.

1282
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: Adam Rank tried to get me back on and he

1283
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: had me on for a moment. And maybe I'm still

1284
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: on the Breeze Hall train, but I think he's He's

1285
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: not a workhorse. It's just not there.

1286
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: I I think this freak out, though, could be a

1287
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 2: good thing for Breezehall because.

1288
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: He's going to go cheaper in drafts.

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Speaker 2: And one thing that like, I won't take credit for

1290
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Speaker 2: having this idea. I saw it on Twitter, but it

1291
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, they split reps, but they also did

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Speaker 2: nothing but run the ball. So like, even with Braylan

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Speaker 2: Allen having a role, Breece Hall could be like a

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00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: fifteen carry, five catch guy per week and we don't

1295
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Speaker 2: care how the touches come and how they look. So

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Speaker 2: like you're gonna give me Breeze Hall at a discount, now,

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00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: I I could get back in easily.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, I think I think you take

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00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: the risks though, because like with Breece Hall, because I

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00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: think he's not gonna fall cheap enough to where I

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Speaker 1: feel okay, like he's not gonna fall outside the top

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Speaker 1: five rounds. Like I don't think he's gonna be down

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00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: there Aaron Jones or the Tony pol.

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Speaker 2: If he's in the fifth round, I would think about it.

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Speaker 1: I would definitely think about it. But I rather Henderson,

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00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: I rather r J. Hart.

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Speaker 3: I'd rather have those guys as my RB twos that

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00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 3: can have those spike weeks of the twenty.

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Speaker 1: But it's going. Those guys are moving up. But Breece

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00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: hasn't looked good as a runner. Yeah they're running the ball,

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00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: but he hasn't been productive as the runner. Like when

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00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: you hand the ball off there there's a completely different vibe,

1313
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: feel and look from when Braylen Allen is getting that

1314
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: ball out of the backfield versus bries Hal where his

1315
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: vision looks like he was in that accident with not seriously,

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00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you're going, let's say you're going hero RB. Right,

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Speaker 1: you take your guy at the top, then you were

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Speaker 1: going you're pounding, you know, the wide receiver position, the

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Speaker 1: tight end position. Maybe like fifth round is when you're

1320
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: that point, Hampton and Henderson are probably gone.

1321
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Speaker 3: But even in that realm, I'd rather wait for a

1322
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Speaker 3: James Connor to have that security that he is the workhorse.

1323
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 3: I'd rather wait for a Tony I'm out on haul

1324
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Speaker 3: just based on He's not going to be cheap enough

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Speaker 3: where I can justify and feel good every Sunday he's

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00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 3: putting up less than ten Fantasy points because Braylan Allen

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00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 3: has the hot hand right now, you know, Like that's

1328
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 3: gonna be like one of my fears, Braylan Allen.

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00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 2: I like Braylon Allen as a value. I moved him

1330
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: up in the rankings this week and stuff. The one

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00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 2: thing I will say though, is he gets the the

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01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 2: least valuable touches, like he's getting the second down carry

1333
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: whereas goal on we haven't really seen yet. I think

1334
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: Justin Field is going to touch push plenty this year,

1335
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: but like on all the passing downs, it's going to

1336
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: be brief, which I think, but.

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Speaker 3: You got fields, he ain't gonna check it down on

1338
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 3: a time like he would rather run out of that pot.

1339
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: Like the highest checkdown rate in the NFL. Yeah, by

1340
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: a design of Arthur Schmith, like I.

1341
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: Think Tanner Engstream is going to bring up.

1342
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 3: But what it feels like they're letting Justin Field play

1343
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 3: his type of ball, like they're letting him be him,

1344
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean.

1345
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: They're trying to be very vanilla for preseason that's not

1346
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: an offense.

1347
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: I mean with the Jets, where like you've got a

1348
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: lot of guys you feel great about having them go

1349
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: deep down field. I mean maybe Garrett Wilson, but beyond that,

1350
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: Mason Taylor, I guess like he could be.

1351
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: I think we're just gonna get a lot of short,

1352
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 2: quick patch like that's something can also catch.

1353
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: But the point is here, like Brayle has looked better

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01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: from a front as the workhorse RB one, Like he

1355
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: has the size, he has the explosives, and he can

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01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: also catch just like a Breese Hall. He can't may

1357
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,439
Speaker 1: run the same type of routes or have that same

1358
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: type of smoothness and like wiggle. But it's more so

1359
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: like if I can hand this guy the ball twenty

1360
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: twenty five times and we are still going to be

1361
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: one of the top rushing attacks in the NFL, then

1362
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. I'm not gonna throw in Hall

1363
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: just because.

1364
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 2: Brayl Allen, but Priest Hall has averaged fourteen hundred yards.

1365
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: I was like, why would you all of a sudden

1366
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: just punt cause.

1367
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 3: You're force feeding that type of production when you find

1368
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 3: a one to two point that actually works, like we've

1369
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 3: seen from Ben Johnson. And we're hoping that this offense

1370
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 3: is anywhere near inspired or reflect anywhere from that Detroit

1371
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 3: backfield where that one two punch is going to have

1372
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 3: to be operated like Dave Montgomery and Gibbs.

1373
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: And look at that Breese Hall is the right like

1374
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think Presaul ain't Gibbs though,

1375
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: I don't think.

1376
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 2: Nowhere Gibbs.

1377
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: I don't think they. I really don't think. I don't

1378
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: really don't think Breesehall goes away. No, I think expectations

1379
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: just need to come down. That's all I mean. Unless

1380
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: Braylen Allen is having a Derek Henry like season, Breeze

1381
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: Hall is not going away. Is a really good RB two.

1382
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: That's where he's being priced. He's an RB two. But

1383
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: bri is Briece speaking of it. H JK. Dobbins did

1384
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: not play. Was held out with the starters. R J.

1385
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: Harvey looked really good. The thing the thing I don't

1386
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: like how you sold that. Well, here's the thing, because

1387
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: the thing I am reading now reports out of Denver

1388
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: are suggesting that maybe it ends up being a hot

1389
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: hand situation. That's fine because when R J. Harvey is hot.

1390
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: How can he not be hot? Just running is the

1391
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: worst because you're trying to guess which one you're trolling. Man,

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01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: I am on trusted trust you. I trust him.

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01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 3: And if I'm sitting here one year from now and

1394
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 3: we're looking at me like how did that Sean Payton?

1395
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 1: Then when your hair has like purple spots in a

1396
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: weird bet and be like see, you'd have to do

1397
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: this to yourself. All right, all right, but I'm trusting

1398
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: the process. Let's put it like that.

1399
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 3: I mean, look not to say six ers like trust,

1400
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 3: this is like an actual trust the process of like

1401
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 3: he's going to get ramped up, like I do think

1402
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 3: he has like a Bucky Irvin late you know, usage

1403
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 3: like type of Spike season. But I do think at

1404
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 3: that point where you're drafting him, he's your RB two

1405
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 3: or RB three, and I think that he showed enough

1406
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 3: to be just six explosive as a tree Von Henderson

1407
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 3: that we're all excited about, and him getting the opportunities

1408
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 3: on this Broncos offensive line, which they were top five

1409
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 3: last season. So in terms of that, there's nothing but

1410
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 3: great opportunity for him to be an explosive of an

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01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 3: electric player for you on Fantasy Sundays.

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01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: Su I think twenty twenty six is the big R. J.

1413
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: Harvey year. I think twenty twenty five is fine, that's

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01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: when you're gonna have to take him in. I think

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01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: second round. I think twenty twenty six is the big year.

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01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah for him who That was a lot show. The

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01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: show was This episode was really unhinged and for those

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01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: of you who made it to this point, I congratulate you.

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01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: We'll be back with you on Wednesday. We will dive

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01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: into the mid round picks that we like, rounds nine

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01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: through twelve. We'll figure out what other news possibly has happened,

1422
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: and that other ever nonsense we can go up with.

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01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: But anyway, that'll do it for this edition of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They Happy, safe and healthy, do good,

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01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: and live well. Enjoyed Monday night pre season football, See

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Speaker 1: and watch on Wednesday