Speaker 1: Money. Well, val we are the authority on all things
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Speaker 1: my brother's right that. Yeah, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Man come on my podcast. It was only right. Is
Speaker 1: my brother right here? Right came? Who came? Like right now?
Speaker 1: I don't do that. You do the same movie, the
Speaker 1: same movie, and you can never stop. You do the
Speaker 1: same You do the same one to cross back. I
Speaker 1: might's that bag of something you know to up. My
Speaker 1: guy wants to get it. He's gonna get it. Jump
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to. He's gonna shoot it will be
Speaker 1: here else will not be here. It's got like a
Speaker 1: double clutch in it. I get it. It depends on
Speaker 1: the defender. It does it? Does you know? And Kyrie
Speaker 1: was that I was handing out buckets a little bit. Wow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the name you're gonna as a name dry But
Speaker 1: it felt real though, you know what. I was on
Speaker 1: the court. I was like, I belong out here for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it. Listen, you were on the floor
Speaker 1: with Kyrie, was gonna take a drink of that man
Speaker 1: the baltizes on the juice class. He's not going with
Speaker 1: us being inappropriate. The dirt. This dispensive, for sure, This
Speaker 1: day is really good. So ste Low, our pod man
Speaker 1: is very informative. Yes, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: so we want to get your journey to this place
Speaker 1: that we call Hollywood, this this entertainment space where you've
Speaker 1: done very well. Yeah, you've done well. You know, you
Speaker 1: know very rightly yourself. You you sent you sent out
Speaker 1: a picture to the bros of a seven million dollar house,
Speaker 1: and you did. You just posed the question should I
Speaker 1: get this not that is very leisurely that should I get? Okay?
Speaker 1: Should I get this one? You think this one's good enough?
Speaker 1: I don't know, stew I don't know is this one's
Speaker 1: gonna do what I think, never get any visitors. You
Speaker 1: never pulled up on me at all. You told me
Speaker 1: to get the house and it never came over. You
Speaker 1: haven't pulled up on me either. But we'll go back
Speaker 1: to that. You you came here when I wasn't here,
Speaker 1: you know, because the only person don't invite mee was
Speaker 1: my wife. Yeah, this iss well is going on, bro
Speaker 1: take us from the beginning, right, so it's music, it's entertainment.
Speaker 1: All these things part of the family are your first generation.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the shoy and and and pick
Speaker 1: up from the very beginning and and get you here
Speaker 1: sitting in the seat. For sure. I love that now,
Speaker 1: first generation for sure. You know, being from Chicago, being
Speaker 1: from the West side of Chicago, UM, going and raised. UM.
Speaker 1: My parents would always tell us that, h just because
Speaker 1: we were from somewhere, that mean we have to be
Speaker 1: up that place. So I constantly told myself it was more.
Speaker 1: It was more out There was more out there. So
Speaker 1: I think I've done with high school. I went and
Speaker 1: I went to Morgan State for my freshman year. You know,
Speaker 1: shout the Morgan say yeah, you know, yeah, you're going
Speaker 1: straight to high school. What do you mean you want
Speaker 1: to know? How did you feel high school? I was wing.
Speaker 1: It's a legendary movie. You just go do that. I
Speaker 1: am not. I forget about this movie because because listen,
Speaker 1: because listen, there is a debate. Yea. The debate is
Speaker 1: probably just me, yeah, yeah, yeah, if you a baby
Speaker 1: or not. That's only he's been the only person was
Speaker 1: presented this to me non stop, and I'm telling him
Speaker 1: not stop. Nor I wasn't Hardball. Was in a movie
Speaker 1: Hardball when I was classic movie. Bro, you can't come classic,
Speaker 1: Come on classic. I was not in there as an actor.
Speaker 1: If I was, you know, aspiring to entertainment that shoot
Speaker 1: you down. In the project, I was ranked in the
Speaker 1: state for baseball, so they brought me in my my
Speaker 1: my school actually had auditions for the movie. My principal
Speaker 1: during the summer called me, I'm thinking I'm in trouble.
Speaker 1: During sometimes she called me like, yo, you have an audition.
Speaker 1: It's an audition up here for a baseball movie. A
Speaker 1: baseball man. I'm gonna pull up. I pull up. They
Speaker 1: loved me horrible, went through yere and as I met
Speaker 1: Mike and all those dudes. Um, but that was my
Speaker 1: first glimpse I guess of being an entertainment, But I
Speaker 1: never had really wanted to be like in front of
Speaker 1: the camera or like that wasn't really what I was
Speaker 1: aspiring to do. Is that why you didn't talk in
Speaker 1: the movie? No, I didn't talk because I wasn't casting
Speaker 1: for that any when I was there. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I end up getting paid. I end up
Speaker 1: getting paid more than most of the actors though, because
Speaker 1: of Illinois state labor laws stated that if I were
Speaker 1: I was on the main team. So if you worked
Speaker 1: the same amount of time, you got paid the same amount.
Speaker 1: And then I didn't have an agent or manager, so
Speaker 1: actually was being paid more and low key. They hated it,
Speaker 1: the kids to the audition, but the movie I hated
Speaker 1: so like it was a weird but me and speaking,
Speaker 1: I'm over here accounting money and y'all keep that up.
Speaker 1: Uh No, but that was my first time being in
Speaker 1: a part of the industry, a glimpse of the industry.
Speaker 1: I thought it was cooling things, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I always heard you have a big personality, you should
Speaker 1: do things, But I never really aspired for that. Uh
Speaker 1: Speeding back up after high school, went to Morgan State.
Speaker 1: Was there for a year. Was like around music. There
Speaker 1: was a dude now no no, baseball was trying to
Speaker 1: be played basketball. I wasn't really hooping like that either.
Speaker 1: Was more focused in music. Was seeing different There's different
Speaker 1: things around me. I'm a hustle person. Just always my
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning a D H D kick seeing.
Speaker 1: I just want to hustle and do things and make
Speaker 1: things move. So for me being in school was sitting
Speaker 1: still and I was like, you know what, I could
Speaker 1: be helping people do different things. There was Brandon Hines
Speaker 1: who was a singer and Howard Um. I had linked
Speaker 1: up with Troy Taylor and I had told him, Hey,
Speaker 1: do I want to actually A and R? That's my dream.
Speaker 1: I want to be A and R and Troy. You know,
Speaker 1: Troy wants to take you through t t U to
Speaker 1: all of this R and b uh University. I want
Speaker 1: to work in business. Did some serious ship going on
Speaker 1: for one thousands like no no, like wanted to development
Speaker 1: production all that. Call him a mentor of mine, like
Speaker 1: wanted to do still to this day, I'll tell Troy
Speaker 1: like as much as we may bump his first business,
Speaker 1: Troy taught me things I could never learn from anybody
Speaker 1: else within the industry. So I respect him for sure,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to really like work in the in
Speaker 1: the in the space. So like for me, I wanted
Speaker 1: to show I was hungry and show him that. So
Speaker 1: I remember, I ain't had that much money, but I
Speaker 1: had got these from hardball, having a little money sailor
Speaker 1: from hardball, and that also couldn't touch a certain amounts.
Speaker 1: I was eighteen, so I had a little money saved
Speaker 1: up as well. For that, I wanted to prove to
Speaker 1: him that I was a hustler. Just have printed out
Speaker 1: all these flyers and different things that had really passed
Speaker 1: out all these Brandon highs my space, you are O
Speaker 1: flying us for that on on Morgan State's campus on
Speaker 1: thousands campus on then travels to it was one of
Speaker 1: the different colleges around and Trey and hit me like yo,
Speaker 1: I see a spike and then what you what are
Speaker 1: you doing that? I'm all I had baldy like, I
Speaker 1: don't spend your own money, but I love the hustle
Speaker 1: of t nasty And like for me, I was reading
Speaker 1: the book Making Happen as Well, which was Kevin Low's book.
Speaker 1: Were only went to Morgan State for full semester, and
Speaker 1: I was already up for to semesters. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: yo for what I want to do. And all the
Speaker 1: people I was like looking up to aspiring to be
Speaker 1: like they were doing music and didn't necessarily have a degree.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying people shouldn't get a degree, but they
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily have one. So for me, uh from Hardball
Speaker 1: and me and Mike Jordian Head became best friends. He
Speaker 1: was moving to l A full time. He was already
Speaker 1: like in and out of an apartment out here, but
Speaker 1: he was like, y'all moving full time, you should just
Speaker 1: ditch you after your firstman or come out here. I'm like,
Speaker 1: say left, I'm not really fluen, she told drop out.
Speaker 1: He influenced me to drop out. You get to blame Mike, Yeah,
Speaker 1: influence me to dropout. I came out here for the
Speaker 1: first six months, I didn't have no plan, I didn't
Speaker 1: have no money. End up having to move back home
Speaker 1: to Chicago because I could not afford it at all.
Speaker 1: I was just trying to keep up, was really hustling,
Speaker 1: couch to couch, all that type of ship. And then
Speaker 1: when it made a little small plan back home in
Speaker 1: Chicago for myself so I can get back out here,
Speaker 1: and got back out here and just hustle, hustle when
Speaker 1: I was first older you at this point, when I
Speaker 1: first moved here in nine then when I like really
Speaker 1: started to like at least be able to provide for
Speaker 1: myself out here, maybe twenty one, Like my first two
Speaker 1: years out here, didn't have a car. It's like really
Speaker 1: like hustling, like just you know, I would work a
Speaker 1: room and ship. People thought like I had more going
Speaker 1: on to me than I did, but I definitely didn't.
Speaker 1: That's that's the thing too write, because we have these
Speaker 1: conversations about the grind and about because everybody thinks, like
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna move there. It's gonna be cracking as
Speaker 1: soon as I get there. They're gonna see my talent.
Speaker 1: And you walk in the room and everybody's talented for sure,
Speaker 1: and everybody already knows each other and everybody has their
Speaker 1: their relationships, and you kind of gotta play catch up
Speaker 1: in that in that whole process. And people don't understand
Speaker 1: the moving back home. Some people never come back at all. Right,
Speaker 1: it's a different type of it's a different type of
Speaker 1: humility to sleep on someone's couch, for sure, when you're
Speaker 1: just trying to be in that room and trying to
Speaker 1: figure it out because you're you're so focused on your career.
Speaker 1: And I think that part gets bypassed so much in
Speaker 1: the conversations that people have about the journey, about what
Speaker 1: it took to get to these spaces. If you want
Speaker 1: to speak about R and B. I was out here
Speaker 1: for lage. You know what I'm saying. I was out here. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the couches, yeah, for sure, that's just facts. So a
Speaker 1: little while make the money, don't have the money, make
Speaker 1: you okay? Selling my life the girl? Ever tell you
Speaker 1: uber's waiting? No, not let you stay. Let me say
Speaker 1: I would put myself on the couch and work my
Speaker 1: way to the big room. I was tellings to keep
Speaker 1: you smooth, I should sleep on the couch. I never
Speaker 1: I was never comforable on the couch, right. I made
Speaker 1: my game everything alright? There? Did you hear that? I
Speaker 1: heard the noise? Just checking on you. Listen my my
Speaker 1: move back, which is funny. My move back was moving
Speaker 1: to Rancho Cucamonga. Yeah, that was, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Because I was like, I'm not going home not And
Speaker 1: this is after a hit record, Yeah for sure. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. This is after being CEOs with baby.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So people can understand how
Speaker 1: far is that from Hollywood? Rancho Cucamonga and traffic about
Speaker 1: an hour and a half. Uncle he was the king,
Speaker 1: He was the king before I got there. He was
Speaker 1: the caing before I got there. His his vibe kind
Speaker 1: of dwindled down. And I kind of went in there
Speaker 1: and and and took over. But I had to get
Speaker 1: I had to get to an affordable space, for sure,
Speaker 1: because my my paper had ran out and I didn't
Speaker 1: have a car, so I didn't have a car that
Speaker 1: you know, carry went bad on me. So I had
Speaker 1: rented a Lincoln town Car. And then money was getting real,
Speaker 1: real lough. So it was to the point where I
Speaker 1: was putting gas in the tank from changing the ash
Speaker 1: tray while they were looking for their rental car. Hey man,
Speaker 1: when you're gonna bring that back, I'm gonna hole at you. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we need that car back. He thought it was
Speaker 1: a library, But you have a dolphin rental. Come find me, actually,
Speaker 1: come find me if you want. They never did, never did,
Speaker 1: because I rented it out. I rented it out this
Speaker 1: way and we took it to ranch. That's all you
Speaker 1: gotta do. He stole a car, he didn't still, I
Speaker 1: eventually gave it back. I followed it, and then the
Speaker 1: old street deal Um and Wane of the Fast cousins
Speaker 1: and got me a uh and got me an escalad
Speaker 1: x T. And then and then my my uncle who
Speaker 1: was fresh out of prison. I moved him into and
Speaker 1: he stole. It's a lot of stuff that goes into that.
Speaker 1: But all this to say is the move back is
Speaker 1: real when you're trying to figure it out. And I
Speaker 1: thought about that. You know, when we firstly out here,
Speaker 1: we were in like to Pango with Naka area, which
Speaker 1: was no car out there. Y'all didn't have a car.
Speaker 1: I didn't have a car. Mike didn't either. Mike had
Speaker 1: Mike had a three series BMW. I was definitely she
Speaker 1: was embarrassed the car. He definitely had a car. They
Speaker 1: had cars, at least, believe me, because I was envious niggers.
Speaker 1: I had no car. I was like, these niggas can
Speaker 1: go places. This is crazy. Yeah. Then when I came
Speaker 1: back out here though, end up putting together a plan. Um.
Speaker 1: I was working randomly, like I have so many random
Speaker 1: like connections with my life and degrees or some I
Speaker 1: was working readily with Joe Simpson his yeah, his Jessica
Speaker 1: Simpsons dad. Yeah. I was working with them, and Ryan
Speaker 1: Cabrera and our as I was managing named Chris Alas
Speaker 1: at the time, and all these different people working out
Speaker 1: this house and kind of working with them. And that's
Speaker 1: where I met Drama, who was Rob's cousin m and
Speaker 1: he was trying to do a production company. But Rob,
Speaker 1: I do a show. Yeah, but yeah Rob here that
Speaker 1: uh from you know, the show Ridiculousness, and Robin bid
Speaker 1: over that fantasy if I don't skip over that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: has done great things. Yeah, yeah, he's done amazing things.
Speaker 1: Uh but yeah he he ended up I ended up
Speaker 1: helping Drama put together his publishing and production company was
Speaker 1: in the studios. He was a producer, he was trying
Speaker 1: to produce. Yeah, he was, you know, he producers producers
Speaker 1: under him that were gonna be under it. So that
Speaker 1: was like C four and Bondo and and there was
Speaker 1: to do Cam Wallace. I don't know if you guys,
Speaker 1: Cam Wallace, but had he didn't produce under him and
Speaker 1: stuff and Rod had just came like two studio sessions
Speaker 1: randomly and it was just like asking. He talked to
Speaker 1: me after the second studio you don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know him from my whole world. I know, of course
Speaker 1: we're in his building fans because a studio, I don't Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know him at all. They knew I knew
Speaker 1: a lot of people already because one of the things
Speaker 1: I did take from Troy Taylor was nurturing relationships. He
Speaker 1: would always say me, you gotta nurture relationships, Like did
Speaker 1: you invite me down there? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah I invited.
Speaker 1: Like you know what's funny, I I've have lived multiple
Speaker 1: lives that I've invited people and had people who I've
Speaker 1: had connection with the music who didn't even remember me
Speaker 1: from music. They remember me as steel Utle Brown from
Speaker 1: Me and Dallas, Like me and Dallas. I've known da
Speaker 1: Was for years and when we reconnected, he you know,
Speaker 1: I was at his office one day actually playing him
Speaker 1: some records from cboards other people, and he was like, Nigga,
Speaker 1: you know I've been watching this show. It's this dude
Speaker 1: who looked just like on that ship. I was like, word,
Speaker 1: what show and he was like, it's a new one
Speaker 1: called Ridiculousness. I said. He was like, but his name
Speaker 1: is Steel because my name is And I was like, Nigga,
Speaker 1: that is me. What are you talking about? He was
Speaker 1: like Nigga, I thought, But I didn't know for sure.
Speaker 1: So it's just always like, you know, interesting to see
Speaker 1: people like not connected to But yeah, Rob had just
Speaker 1: want me to the side and was like, hey man,
Speaker 1: you're funny as hell. We should do a show together,
Speaker 1: just like that on on something like yeah, if he
Speaker 1: was out there, you could be on my show man,
Speaker 1: And I was like, and I was like cool. I
Speaker 1: didn't believe him at this point. Does he have Robert
Speaker 1: Robert big is already out in Fantasy Factor already, you know,
Speaker 1: you have another show already out, so I know that
Speaker 1: he is capable. I don't know his set up is.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he already got a deal for
Speaker 1: another show. I don't know if he's just going to
Speaker 1: pitch himself. He's just believing this is gonna happen. And
Speaker 1: I didn't know him. You know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: could just say as to everybody that walking through. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but three months went by. I had told
Speaker 1: him when to do the show? Was interested cool? Three
Speaker 1: months went by, I didn't again, didn't know him. I
Speaker 1: got a call from a random number and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like calls everybody. Yeah, He's like, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: robbed daredak things aboudy playing my phone like all right, cool,
Speaker 1: what is this for real? It's just Rob that show
Speaker 1: I mentioned that you I thought he said that. I
Speaker 1: knew it was him. He was like that show I
Speaker 1: mentioned to you. We started tomorrow at ten am. Can
Speaker 1: you be there? I swear? And I was like, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be there tomorrow to them, and I went into
Speaker 1: the pilot. We shot the pilot. I was horrible, and
Speaker 1: uh there was an order of speaking because it was him,
Speaker 1: and there was drama that was Chanelle and they were
Speaker 1: already on television and I'm only black dude, So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just shut up. I don't know what y'all
Speaker 1: was set up this here. Uh, but I was like
Speaker 1: letting them talk about the videos and different things. I
Speaker 1: wasn't amazing on the pilot. MTV even told Rout like, hey,
Speaker 1: he wasn't that good, Like this is dude, you brought
Speaker 1: it in and he was like, trust me, I gotta
Speaker 1: like let him know that this is his show just
Speaker 1: as much as mine, and we're gonna work this out
Speaker 1: because he's hilarious. You just don't know. It really vouched
Speaker 1: for me, which ain't none but God, because I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't know Homey at all, and being black saved me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They already had big big Black,
Speaker 1: wasn't around him, needed to black dude, but that that
Speaker 1: definitely helped that lot. And now we knocked it out
Speaker 1: and now we're a thousand, over a thousand episodes in.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Season twenty nine is being filmed right now.
Speaker 1: We're looking to go for many more thousands. I can
Speaker 1: say that the record. Yeah, we're trying to, you know,
Speaker 1: do what we die. I guess keep hearing keeping money
Speaker 1: radio and broadcast. But you're just not on the show.
Speaker 1: On the show. I'm producing a producer on this, Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know I'm trying to swack too much on Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm pc it is. I've been producing this season two.
Speaker 1: Come on, I ain't trying to You got pros that
Speaker 1: are sparkly pros. No, no, no, they have diamonds drilled
Speaker 1: inside of them. Niggas ain't really never seen diamonds inside
Speaker 1: pearls like that. So if we're gonna stop, we're gonna start.
Speaker 1: I desided myself, me and reg you know this is crazy,
Speaker 1: but yeah, like you said, though, yeah, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of episodes, and we ain't trying to stop. Man, diamonds
Speaker 1: and pearls, diamonds and pearls. You know what. I don't
Speaker 1: have no drink, but ye for I don't know m
Speaker 1: but here we are. Man dropped my R and B
Speaker 1: album soon made that up right now, you've done more
Speaker 1: in R and B though you've done working I've done
Speaker 1: working with R and B producers. I ended up working
Speaker 1: with C four. You did did uh um did some
Speaker 1: next breath? Next Breath? Yea, yeah, for sure, Sammy playing
Speaker 1: was on that. I've worked there with with C four
Speaker 1: obviously with you ever trace songs, and I've worked for
Speaker 1: a lot of R and B people in the past.
Speaker 1: For sure, EP Create Too soundtrack the other year. That
Speaker 1: was the last I had really dove into music before
Speaker 1: I just dove again. But music is something that like
Speaker 1: I love man, it's like the reason I moved out here.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm something today, so it's not one to revisit,
Speaker 1: didn't know how, But just being around R and B.
Speaker 1: For me, I come from a place where R and
Speaker 1: B is cherished. Chicago is super People don't notice. I noticed. Yea,
Speaker 1: your mother is a preacher. She is a preacher. So
Speaker 1: that's R and B is a get Yeah. Yeah, for
Speaker 1: sure in the pot it starts there, so I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, growing up in that type of household, it's
Speaker 1: kind of you get back to that at some point
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean when you think about vocalists, when
Speaker 1: you think about R and B, like I think about,
Speaker 1: it starts in the church. I think about some of
Speaker 1: the best vocalists in the world, people I really think
Speaker 1: are the criminal crop come from the church. So for me, yeah,
Speaker 1: coming from that, I think you're just around real musicality,
Speaker 1: around real life things that you're like cool. And then
Speaker 1: also being from Chicago again, you know it's the home
Speaker 1: of rob Um, but also you know Twister anybody else
Speaker 1: that comes from there and their DNA anything in that DNA,
Speaker 1: that music is gonna be RB. It's gonna be so
Speaker 1: it's gonna start with that, do you feel like and
Speaker 1: because the church connection, I mean I have the same
Speaker 1: church connection. How did your mother receive like your movements?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean in terms of you being
Speaker 1: out here in Hollywood and and the steps and you know,
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of access, there are a lot
Speaker 1: of things that are a lot of moving parts. I
Speaker 1: think everybody's parents can act the same until you t
Speaker 1: have all of it, until you make a little money
Speaker 1: and you tive off the money and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you made a little money until you time you you
Speaker 1: know what the Lord is really using you out? I
Speaker 1: can tell of course my mom, you know she parents
Speaker 1: don't necessarily ever really understand. We all go through our
Speaker 1: different journeys. By the time that it is time for
Speaker 1: them to understand, the journeys have changed for each generation,
Speaker 1: you know, So like, you know, me wanting to go
Speaker 1: after this, my mom didn't. I was on a full
Speaker 1: ride at Morgan staid as well, my school is paying
Speaker 1: for my school is paid for you, and they were
Speaker 1: just like, what do you do to market? Morgan State
Speaker 1: is like the home of the dropout that becomes successful.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's three right, And I had
Speaker 1: a full right. Dctor Carter gave me a world renowned Dr.
Speaker 1: Carter Scholarship. Damn, I need to go back to you
Speaker 1: can I think you are out around here. I'm here.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the to the create
Speaker 1: to soundtrack, because you know, a soundtrack is a real process.
Speaker 1: Scoring the movie is a real problem. Don't understanding. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that music for film. It's a whole another
Speaker 1: place to muse for the regular the public and the
Speaker 1: people that just love records on the radio. Like you're
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to make it connect to
Speaker 1: this movie. You dealing with people who don't normally do music,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, these licensing people, these sink people,
Speaker 1: and oh we have this scene, can you play it
Speaker 1: like this? Blessed to work with lou will give it up,
Speaker 1: give it up for you know, Black Panther. He's done
Speaker 1: a lot of child and being no stuff. He's just
Speaker 1: produced for everybody, does a lot of scoring. Now at
Speaker 1: this point he's looking like one of them go to
Speaker 1: in that field. Um so he was doing most of
Speaker 1: the scoring. We were brought in kind of to do
Speaker 1: the soundtrack and some'm scoring last minute too. We didn't
Speaker 1: really have a lot of time, so I just thought
Speaker 1: it was best it was me and fam who are
Speaker 1: working on the project. I thought it was best to
Speaker 1: like bringing someone who could bring us all of those
Speaker 1: names and the same way that I kind of work
Speaker 1: my relationships to work different things. I was like, we
Speaker 1: don't have time, Let's bring in somebody that has an
Speaker 1: umbrella of network that can bring in different things. So
Speaker 1: I tapped into Mike Will, who you know DJs the
Speaker 1: homie tell them to Mike Will and doing the project.
Speaker 1: Mike Will got to actually um produced the full creative
Speaker 1: soundtrack and we had we had everybody from Kendrick to
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj to any name you can name was on
Speaker 1: the Farrell was on the project. So it was something
Speaker 1: I definitely was proud of for the time period that
Speaker 1: we had as well to get it done. That's you know,
Speaker 1: we weren't on there. Yeah he said, he said, and
Speaker 1: didn't he nothing, that's not even First of all, the
Speaker 1: little dog tried to attack me and somebody. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Nucky, that's a little name. Get me
Speaker 1: there about the whole soundtrack, I'm like, man, this is
Speaker 1: so cool. Wow, that's amazing. We're gonna be on it.
Speaker 1: We're not on it, but I mean it's so many
Speaker 1: more days for us to work and so many Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't hit me for nothing. Show we're
Speaker 1: going there. I'm just saying, family, my sister already know
Speaker 1: what's going on. She hit me like, yeah, look she
Speaker 1: kicked she kicked it off like that. Just know whenever
Speaker 1: she called me and say, brother, how much you need?
Speaker 1: How much you need? I like, your sister, bro, your mom,
Speaker 1: your pop is your brothers bro, Like, I'm fully locked in.
Speaker 1: So whatever they need. When we in Chicago, we always
Speaker 1: say now and my sister is biggest fan, is scary
Speaker 1: how much she loves you? Um so yeah you are.
Speaker 1: That's a nigga's sisters. Yeah, she a thug nigger. And
Speaker 1: she'd be like, I love take. I've never seen you
Speaker 1: so saw on phone. I love have you? Have you
Speaker 1: seen my earlier photographs? I've seen you, brom you. I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan. I appealed to. I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: to you know what I'm saying to the goons, to
Speaker 1: the church people like all of those things in one
Speaker 1: since that's the segway for it, though, what what you
Speaker 1: funk with in this R and B space because Tank,
Speaker 1: come on, man, you got your you got your you
Speaker 1: got your segment. Well you you know you're asked him
Speaker 1: real R and B questions. He's been around a lot
Speaker 1: of great R and B. Yeah, you know a lot
Speaker 1: of great R and B. We've all been in the
Speaker 1: rooms together. Yeah, for sure. So very cool. You you
Speaker 1: have opinions, you have thoughts, you have musicality running through
Speaker 1: your veins. You eat, you know, you eat it the private,
Speaker 1: in the private like back kitchen at the Lita, right
Speaker 1: like you don't eat with the people. The people don't
Speaker 1: we talk private? Very here we go talk, go ahead.
Speaker 1: That room's not public to everybody. I'm joking. I brought
Speaker 1: it back in diamonds, drilled in diamonds to the pearls.
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all hurt. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if Prince had that. The diamonds are drilled in the
Speaker 1: black pearls. You know you got to coordinate. Okay, um,
Speaker 1: top five R and B artists, and this is from us.
Speaker 1: I can ask that what okay? Is there is there
Speaker 1: an error? You coog who? I just want to ask
Speaker 1: a couple of questions. I answer this ship, do you
Speaker 1: mean this is Is this just from like vocally or
Speaker 1: are you saying this is from numbers? This is if
Speaker 1: you were putting, if you were grabbing some seat, let's
Speaker 1: save you a CD Star Star use a if you
Speaker 1: were Tower the Tower records you need to and you're
Speaker 1: about to grab your top five R and B c ds.
Speaker 1: You got George Daniel spot Yeah. I don't stand about
Speaker 1: kills at all, but R Kelly is one of the
Speaker 1: top R and B niggers of all time. And I'm
Speaker 1: for Chicago, so I gotta say that. Um, he's the guy.
Speaker 1: All that rape stuff is not my thing, but the
Speaker 1: R and B amazing. I'm trying to think of who
Speaker 1: oh top uh you know Teddy if he can if
Speaker 1: you want to, you want we got love R and
Speaker 1: B way too much to even answer you. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: like yeah, Rushmore do only get you far? Okay, So
Speaker 1: he's got Teddy, then we got we got Luthor. Um,
Speaker 1: then I'm I'm getting sexist. I don't know why I'm
Speaker 1: doing that, because because Witney you can, you can go
Speaker 1: Whitney to Like, why would I even play that game?
Speaker 1: It's so many people. This is I don't like this
Speaker 1: list I made the list. Don't like like it's a
Speaker 1: good list, but I don't respect it. It's too many people,
Speaker 1: Like I think there are so many people one you
Speaker 1: got one last place on the list work throw is
Speaker 1: it for us? The list is favo moving. It's never
Speaker 1: it is. There's so many people I really like and
Speaker 1: I am keep my job. No, your show is called ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It's called ridiculousness. Ridiculous. I'm trying to Okay, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: normally go USh. I'm trying to think, is that really?
Speaker 1: You know who I used to really funk with, like
Speaker 1: all the way before he came a Target artist, was
Speaker 1: on John Legend. I used to really love John. A
Speaker 1: target artist, that's when your album at the front of Target,
Speaker 1: when you're checking out in your albums, Like, No, it's
Speaker 1: just like saying, like I'm making music for the masses,
Speaker 1: for the man. I'm not saying the bad bigger I'm not.
Speaker 1: Don't get a confused, Listen, I've never heard that term
Speaker 1: a target artist. I've never heard I made it up
Speaker 1: all of my albums. I also made it up. But
Speaker 1: my album comes out and Target check out check out
Speaker 1: the front to check out the front with with a
Speaker 1: thing with a whole check out check your names, but
Speaker 1: it's Knig is John Legend is Jennifer Husband. Don't make
Speaker 1: me name the checkout artists take I love you, but
Speaker 1: you're not a checkout artist. They said check this out,
Speaker 1: but then check out artists is the thing is Christmas
Speaker 1: album here in July? Check out it's not good. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying. I'm not saying about checkout safe? Yeah safe?
Speaker 1: Why can't you don't want to be I've been at
Speaker 1: the front of Target before, like three times. Check out though,
Speaker 1: to checkout is different. Whatever top five R and B
Speaker 1: songs or albums you can you can interest songs or
Speaker 1: you can interest album my Gray's inspiration from ted DV.
Speaker 1: Let's go back there. Um so my inspiration inspiration, that's
Speaker 1: the record, that's the one record albums Uh why loving
Speaker 1: pain my ship? Nothing? Started saying, I'm saying that's my
Speaker 1: dog for sure. Ye out here, man, that's that's my
Speaker 1: that's my album, right's there. It's never at the checkout though,
Speaker 1: check because you don't have no shirts. Niggers with no
Speaker 1: shirts are not at the checkout field. And you ain't
Speaker 1: never had an album cover with a shirt. He did
Speaker 1: it was a mistake. I told I don't know, I
Speaker 1: told it was cool. Everybody got it was mostly my fault,
Speaker 1: but everybody he was like, told me, you only want
Speaker 1: to told me okay, okay, Uh, you know I ain't
Speaker 1: got to keep in with the Slammers on but TP
Speaker 1: two Uh these yeah, these are like these projects for me,
Speaker 1: Like you know, Confessions is like as much as its hype,
Speaker 1: it's it's Confessions. Like it's like, what are we talking about? Confessions?
Speaker 1: The greatest period I love. I'd be like liking, uh,
Speaker 1: is it? Is it? In my own words, I'm trying
Speaker 1: think Neo's album, the first one? What was that ship?
Speaker 1: What was it called? Yes, it's something very similar to
Speaker 1: my own words, in my words or something like that,
Speaker 1: my own words, it might be first album is amazing,
Speaker 1: but it's certain. I mean those are still those are
Speaker 1: not necessarily you know, throughout history for me, albums for
Speaker 1: me like, yeah, it used to really be like this
Speaker 1: album is incredible. Yeah, like this album isn't. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: makes you feel something for sure. I can go back
Speaker 1: to all those albums too and still play. That's important.
Speaker 1: It's very important. And I think with R and B
Speaker 1: because R and B is so timeless a rap, you know,
Speaker 1: it kind of goes up in the air here and there.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're like really going back and playing some ship.
Speaker 1: But at R and B, like, I believe you should
Speaker 1: be able. It is the core of so many other
Speaker 1: genres that I believe you should be able to go
Speaker 1: back and still listen and be like this shill. I
Speaker 1: mean I listened to old Yeah records. You're like, yea
Speaker 1: from this still go still feel good. Yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get to that too, because we want to get to
Speaker 1: something I heard earlier. Um, are be vote Trump? If
Speaker 1: you're putting in the ultimate R and B artist together,
Speaker 1: like you're on two K building the place? What pieces
Speaker 1: do you take to build one mail? Build a mail?
Speaker 1: But I'm not like building them like a real transformed
Speaker 1: like this person for their hands, No, you know, I
Speaker 1: like her fingers, but they like a vocalist. But I
Speaker 1: kind of want to go with you. Who are you
Speaker 1: babbing the vocal from? Matter of fact, I'll help you
Speaker 1: who you grabbing the vocal from? That is so like
Speaker 1: it is tough because there's so many different tones and
Speaker 1: different reasons you like different tones, and like you've been
Speaker 1: in that Teddy p bag. Like I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: who like, Yeah, it's different, like vocalists do different things
Speaker 1: that I just be like, like like you building yours? Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah artist. Okay, Brandy is a vocalist. I really fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't getting Brandy and shout out lean let
Speaker 1: me let me do Brandy on there as a vocalist. Uh,
Speaker 1: what else are you doing? Who would you performance? Value?
Speaker 1: Stage president? Okay? Oh, I mean you cb is. I
Speaker 1: mean I don't think necessarily that I'm making an artist
Speaker 1: that I'm like, these are gonna be all the things
Speaker 1: you can check. This is a superhero. Okay, as long
Speaker 1: as we are, what are we talking about? Is cbe? Uh?
Speaker 1: Is style? Oh? Style? You gotta have to market this artist? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because i'd be I'd be keen on style too. I'm
Speaker 1: dressed by me right now. But trust pretty normally I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think it was style. I'm like, yo, be
Speaker 1: getting fits off from any area? Yeah, Marvin gat a
Speaker 1: slick style classic and it's like my type of ship
Speaker 1: wasn't like he smoked a whole bunch of just put
Speaker 1: some ship together and he's just a fly nigger. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just what the is that he went a fish net.
Speaker 1: It's gorgeous, you know, like yeah, yeah, so Marvin Gaye
Speaker 1: style for sure, it was fly um and then where
Speaker 1: else we were used to style, we got vocalists, we
Speaker 1: got performance. Uh that those three races s yeah, brandy artists, Randy,
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Yeah, Marvin Marvin Yeah, yeah, that's decent. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah says let me still that
Speaker 1: there's got to put inflection on any other Okay, um,
Speaker 1: what aren't you listen to you right now? M right
Speaker 1: now in this moment. Uh, the Blast record, I'm forgetting
Speaker 1: names with huh Blast dopest. But I mean I love you.
Speaker 1: I love some of these dudes up be dropping shot
Speaker 1: by these names. It's nice, yeah for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1: I think that's probably I'm trying to think. Is it
Speaker 1: something I'm really like? I mean, I don't want to
Speaker 1: seem cliche. Break my soul really makes my soul feel rich.
Speaker 1: It feels amazing. I love to hear. I mean, how
Speaker 1: it started in Chicago, How it started in Chicago, How
Speaker 1: it started in Chicago? You know what I'm saying? And
Speaker 1: like the what you hate that so much? The rain
Speaker 1: dance that it looks like, and what's when y'all getting there?
Speaker 1: That's not that's something totally different now dancing on somebody. Okay,
Speaker 1: so Chicago, right, yeah, now we're here, Yeah, we're here,
Speaker 1: give us the juke scene the footwork like right, because
Speaker 1: every now it's like everybody who taps into Chicago that
Speaker 1: don't know just everybody thinks it's just drill music. But
Speaker 1: that's you know, now it's drill people that really know
Speaker 1: Chicago is like the taste of Chicago, the food, right,
Speaker 1: But then the dancing, right, I had to experience it
Speaker 1: myself and see it. Always make jokes about it because
Speaker 1: I can't do it. Yeah, it's the funniest in the
Speaker 1: world to me, but I can't do the ship right.
Speaker 1: Break that down to it though, because Jack, like Tank,
Speaker 1: we both juking and footworking pretty the same thing. I Mean,
Speaker 1: you could be like, I'm going to a juke party,
Speaker 1: but juke in itself was like when a girl was
Speaker 1: dancing on you, she juking on you, and that well,
Speaker 1: that ship just juking. That party of juke. That just
Speaker 1: means like a certain dance as a certain dance, footworking
Speaker 1: is completely different. It's moving your feet, then you got
Speaker 1: like um bobbing. It's a whole bunch of different dances.
Speaker 1: I think. Also what people not realizing is that the
Speaker 1: biggest rap dance record of all times comes from Chicago,
Speaker 1: of all time, Slide from cash Man, uh he from Chicago.
Speaker 1: Cass was one of the original rap like innovators and
Speaker 1: stuff like during the African and bottom days. He was
Speaker 1: an early rap pie and then for Chicago and then
Speaker 1: yeah he you know, he has a little movement and
Speaker 1: stuff back in the day, but his biggest record, obviously
Speaker 1: Cass was like yea, So like yeah, dance itself has
Speaker 1: always been within the culture. Like you go to different
Speaker 1: cities and everybody not necessarily dancing every city you go
Speaker 1: to or different you know what I'm saying. Bottimore got
Speaker 1: some good club music, New Jersey, New York, different places
Speaker 1: you go. It might be the Oakland might be dancing,
Speaker 1: but like certain other places, you know, people just be
Speaker 1: chilling the walls or be in the club scene. In Chicago.
Speaker 1: Choice cities that actually have dancing places, right like the
Speaker 1: Bay like you said, we got we got the hype
Speaker 1: movement that l a. There's more towards the gang culture,
Speaker 1: but it's still dancing, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: it's it's still that in Chicago. Has so is that
Speaker 1: connected to the streets like that too, dars? No, is
Speaker 1: it just now you could like it was probably if anything,
Speaker 1: like you had your groups like house rest is probably
Speaker 1: a way to stay out of the streets. Gonna be
Speaker 1: a buck with you. Like dancing were just parties. You
Speaker 1: would go to basing parties and stuff and everybody to
Speaker 1: be dancing. Street ning is definitely dance because well, I
Speaker 1: think it's funny in certain cities you could definitely be around.
Speaker 1: Definitely did. Yeah. Also in New York train things at
Speaker 1: the best knees right now in the world. That's the ship.
Speaker 1: It's not getting started, yea. Yeah. But it's like also
Speaker 1: like the thought of Nigga's doing a full hearing that
Speaker 1: bit out beyond me. Yeah, but I mean the dance,
Speaker 1: the whole dance was crazy. Me and my brother's definitely
Speaker 1: full work. Definitely, that was something that was the way
Speaker 1: I was like a mouthpiece almost, like you go to
Speaker 1: parties and if you can dance, if you would do that,
Speaker 1: like I wanted that attention of like let me dance,
Speaker 1: that was your way of picking up chicks for sure.
Speaker 1: That's the like when you talk about dance, what you're
Speaker 1: doing right now, the nigga marries a dancer, and now
Speaker 1: in his mom it's not it's not it's not it's
Speaker 1: not in my it's not in my mind. See in
Speaker 1: eighth grade, Okay, we're going back eighth grade. Eighth grade
Speaker 1: prom I won that dance contest. Okay, who else is
Speaker 1: going to get me? Who was going against all the
Speaker 1: kids from the hood? Everybody, nobody, everybody wanted you remember
Speaker 1: nobody name. I mean nobody was a good dancing. The
Speaker 1: only thing in my head is songs, lyrics and melodies
Speaker 1: that all this left. We was dancing to everything. I
Speaker 1: was eighth grade. What was that? Was Bobby Brown doing
Speaker 1: something back then? Okay he was really danced. No, I
Speaker 1: was really dance, just really running, man was passion. It
Speaker 1: was really it was really flipping. I was the first CB.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I did a summer salt
Speaker 1: on beach. That was me. Know what I'm saying in
Speaker 1: hard bottoms, He's the first Chris Brown. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I'm just saying I did to flip
Speaker 1: on beat like listening to this music. It was it
Speaker 1: was dad, so they allowed it. And then you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, cut to my my first single. Know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you did dance? No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to allude to is that I was.
Speaker 1: I danced in that video and I danced very well.
Speaker 1: Now that's the part I'm what did do? That's not
Speaker 1: what we what we're talking about the song. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: song had a different effect, but it wasn't about my dance.
Speaker 1: My dance, you know what I'm saying, was my gift
Speaker 1: and they saw that. Cut to you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying another song where I danced in Um You're My Star.
Speaker 1: I'm starting to see a correlation between me dan song,
Speaker 1: but the whole rap every time he is my dance.
Speaker 1: I can dance. Can you dance? Yes? I can dance?
Speaker 1: You still like do a move each show? I can
Speaker 1: do choreography. It just looks strange. It's no, No, surely
Speaker 1: your burden of dance has just been the mic stand
Speaker 1: just like I guess I think it should has buzzles
Speaker 1: this brew. But if that's what a man I can dance,
Speaker 1: I can do choreography. People can do stuff that. I mean,
Speaker 1: they should do it. No, no, and it's like everybody
Speaker 1: like people have a voice, but like that mean you
Speaker 1: should like always use it, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you could probably dance. I just don't know if
Speaker 1: people necessarily want to see it. You know, you have
Speaker 1: a record that I just heard, Yeah, you have a record.
Speaker 1: No do it. No, I'm not it's gonna do it. No,
Speaker 1: I'm no, I'm not, No, I'm not. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: is that the record I heard, As you said, you
Speaker 1: should be able to go back to R and B
Speaker 1: moments and they should be able to um you know,
Speaker 1: standing the test of time and that Avant record that
Speaker 1: you sample it's absolutely you know. And then Avanti Kiki
Speaker 1: and now you sample it, sampled it, um and and
Speaker 1: she sounds dope. Yeah. I was listening to some ship
Speaker 1: today like from a different artist, and it was a
Speaker 1: cool like a dope R and B sample. I was like,
Speaker 1: damn and use as super dope And I was just
Speaker 1: like yo, just time as R and B is like,
Speaker 1: you know, I think we did our job on that
Speaker 1: record on My Love with Me and Buddy and Aaron
Speaker 1: ray out to them. But in the same brother, I'm like,
Speaker 1: very cold that record, thank you that record, though I'm
Speaker 1: still like, that's that's just R and B classic. There's
Speaker 1: certain things, yeah, you like even you know, you don't
Speaker 1: always as a kid, you would hear hit records sometimes
Speaker 1: and you'd be like really good and wouldn't know there
Speaker 1: was a sample and there or that there was that
Speaker 1: your parents took and was like this because timeless and
Speaker 1: classic music just don't fucking go nowhere. So like we
Speaker 1: like when I heard that beat, I was just like,
Speaker 1: what this is a pinner from me? Rob Holiday? Dud
Speaker 1: shout to Rob Holiday. Yeah for sure, yea at your
Speaker 1: cup you need no, no, we can't. But yeah that
Speaker 1: so for you the music side, right, the artist artist side,
Speaker 1: is that just purely a passion thing for you where
Speaker 1: you just like, you know what, I got these thoughts
Speaker 1: I want to do something? Or is it are you
Speaker 1: from your from your point of view? Are you looking
Speaker 1: at it like I'm trying to compete. I'm about to
Speaker 1: go all out. I'm about to be doing radio at
Speaker 1: six in the morning, I'm about to be flying too
Speaker 1: cities I didn't even know existed in the country here.
Speaker 1: Or is it just like you know whatnot. I just
Speaker 1: feel good about some music. I want to put it out.
Speaker 1: I want to just vibe. I think there's a balance.
Speaker 1: I think like honestly, it's it's the first one. It's
Speaker 1: me really want to put music out and wanted to
Speaker 1: create um for myself before creatives in the sense of, like,
Speaker 1: you know, people project on you so much and tell
Speaker 1: you what you can and can't do. Whatever I makes
Speaker 1: sense for you, what you can do that, because that's
Speaker 1: gonna disturb this this I've wanted to put out music again,
Speaker 1: whether it be me behind the scenes in front of
Speaker 1: whatever it was. I wanted to dibble and dab, will
Speaker 1: have my hands in music. So I like went about
Speaker 1: this project. It was really just me doing it because
Speaker 1: my my my therapist told me to, like, yo, just
Speaker 1: do something to help you release something that you never
Speaker 1: completely before. I was like black man in therapy, Yeah
Speaker 1: for sure, I love that shout out to get in
Speaker 1: touch with your feelings. Yeah, and we get we're getting stronger.
Speaker 1: He's week I'm getting stronger. But as black men, you
Speaker 1: just touched on something that we we kind of go
Speaker 1: around in our culture right as far as you know,
Speaker 1: going to therapy, finding outlets to get these things off
Speaker 1: our mind. You know, someone just someone telling you you
Speaker 1: should try this, addressing the traumas man, because you know,
Speaker 1: we we come from brokenness, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's the origin of us even being here in the
Speaker 1: first place, and so unconsciously, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: things have been passed down, you know, from whether it
Speaker 1: be whether it be traits or just practices, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, that just played us just because Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have an argument that the latter might be a
Speaker 1: little hard to argue, but I argue that any black
Speaker 1: person here in America is duple therapy just from living
Speaker 1: here in America. Uh. And then on top of that,
Speaker 1: I would even argue, as much as this sounds like,
Speaker 1: uh my Christian side and being forgiving it all the times,
Speaker 1: that every white person should be in therapy as well,
Speaker 1: for for them living here in America. Like, We've went
Speaker 1: through so many things here that are not even within
Speaker 1: your household, not even with that, just you know, just
Speaker 1: from surviving here that you know you either talk through
Speaker 1: or understand or be able to break down and be like, well,
Speaker 1: why is this thing making me feel this way? Or
Speaker 1: look at this thing, this way. So I try to
Speaker 1: definitely go to therapy. It's made me nothing but a
Speaker 1: better person for sure. For you, I'm gonna hang out
Speaker 1: hang out with you what not even know I'm in therapy, No,
Speaker 1: you justson, I do think I'm a better person. I
Speaker 1: try to be ship. Yeah, I appreciate that. I try
Speaker 1: to make sure that like I'm really um leaving something behind,
Speaker 1: you know, if nothing else. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's a sweet tweaked. Some nig is definitely be tweaking.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It depends on what they're smoking,
Speaker 1: for sure. But now I'll be trying to like really
Speaker 1: look at life that way and be like, what am
Speaker 1: I leaving behind? What legacy? So even when UM thinking
Speaker 1: about that from the music standpoint, it's not even that
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a part of my legacy.
Speaker 1: But I'd be damned if I live a life well,
Speaker 1: I didn't do things I wanted to do just because
Speaker 1: of side somebody else told me that I shouldn't do it. Look,
Speaker 1: I could have easily dropped the music project and everybody said,
Speaker 1: please fucking never do that again. Luckily for me, nobody
Speaker 1: said that I've gotten nothing but good responses, positive feedback,
Speaker 1: and then on top that I did it for me,
Speaker 1: so I feel, you know, success. You know, have I
Speaker 1: died into any project? I asked myself what success looks
Speaker 1: like one at the end, what am I doing this for?
Speaker 1: What am I so? For me? I'd already achieved success
Speaker 1: by just getting my thoughts out and just doing this
Speaker 1: ship because it was scary as hell being like, hey man,
Speaker 1: you do this completely different thing you television or you've
Speaker 1: done this thing over here now people that you know,
Speaker 1: most my most relationships I've had in music are from
Speaker 1: me being a manager, of me being this thing now
Speaker 1: to hit people up and be like, hey, can you
Speaker 1: send me some being with me? Nigga? What first? When
Speaker 1: I first started my project, I was line in this.
Speaker 1: I was being like, Yo, send me some bes. I'm
Speaker 1: working on a secret project on working on and Nika
Speaker 1: just like, send me stuff because you know, relationship with
Speaker 1: me and you know I ain't never hears up with
Speaker 1: a bull, so maybe it's gonna be all right. It
Speaker 1: was for me, all me. It was all for me.
Speaker 1: But you know, as the project is came out and
Speaker 1: people were like, yo, honestly, it's it's it's good as
Speaker 1: that I've I've I've enjoyed it, and I've been I've
Speaker 1: been cooking up a little more. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's again, it's still for me, it's still I'm not
Speaker 1: expecting to be the biggest ropper of the biggest artists
Speaker 1: in the world. That's not what I'm here for. I've
Speaker 1: been blessed enough to, I guess, get these dreams out.
Speaker 1: Dreams are expensive as fun. So for me to be
Speaker 1: able to even do this as a is a luxury.
Speaker 1: It's a blessing by God. But for me also to
Speaker 1: get it out, it's a form of therapy as well.
Speaker 1: For me just to continue to to to to release
Speaker 1: and create a d As I wake up each morning,
Speaker 1: I just want to create. So this is one of
Speaker 1: the outlets I've gotten. It allows me a layer of
Speaker 1: myself as I dive into different different things. It just
Speaker 1: allows people to keep looking at you being like, we
Speaker 1: don't know what this nigga can do. M And they
Speaker 1: shouldn't know everything. You should be able to continue to surprise. Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially if you can do the work and you do
Speaker 1: it at a high level. Right, So shout out to
Speaker 1: the el Dorado Excursion. I appreciate that, man, I appreciate
Speaker 1: you know, we have this very important part of the show,
Speaker 1: very very important part. I know he can do it.
Speaker 1: I know. I'm scared. I listen. I'm I'm a bet.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet myself something to go ahead, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna bet myself. So the part of the show is
Speaker 1: called I ain't saying no names. M will you tell us?
Speaker 1: You tell us? Yeah, these niggas is sick? Yeah, somebody
Speaker 1: that's crazy? Right. The story can need to be funny
Speaker 1: or funked up or both. Okay, damn, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was with you, man, But also like what story
Speaker 1: belongs to the one I know? The only rule I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think. Damn. Oh, I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: a good story, like no bullshit. I have so many
Speaker 1: stories just over the years of just being around. Um,
Speaker 1: this should be R and B based, it should be
Speaker 1: a story. This story might not have a hit. Fuck
Speaker 1: if this story don't hit them, be sad because it's
Speaker 1: a story. We know you, we know you're funny. You've
Speaker 1: been funny about that. It's uh, go back. I could
Speaker 1: say some names don't need to it's me. It's just me.
Speaker 1: The story is about men saying that you can't say
Speaker 1: nobody names. I didn't do nothing like that, man, you
Speaker 1: can't myself. All right, let me let me think then,
Speaker 1: because if you didn't incriminated that story, I kind of
Speaker 1: think of a better story because that story I had
Speaker 1: was just about being a broken nigger. That was it. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I trying to think because the other story and thinking
Speaker 1: about that's come out y'all got you on that? What it? No,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like a story that's don't
Speaker 1: feel light, but it's like that's funny. Uh yeah yeah uh.
Speaker 1: This thing is face because he's just thinking like, yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever you're thinking about that now, that's the one. Don't
Speaker 1: overthink it. Oh, I got a story. I see all them.
Speaker 1: That story either doesn't involved some other things I know,
Speaker 1: I know, but like that, these stories are like the
Speaker 1: stories that they're funny to me, but they're not necessarily
Speaker 1: like it was a nigga. It was I went to
Speaker 1: the show one time, right, my boy hit me, like,
Speaker 1: YO put up to this show. I'm not the show
Speaker 1: at this venue out here in l a uh and
Speaker 1: I only be going to this venue because like the
Speaker 1: kind of venue it is, I'd be like, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be up in the l type of nick is gonna
Speaker 1: be there, the type of whole vibe is gonna be
Speaker 1: or we set up correctly, whatever, But my boy having
Speaker 1: the show, So I'm like gonna be supported. I'm a
Speaker 1: good friend here I am, So I pull up, I
Speaker 1: get there earlier to everybody else. Right, cool whatever they
Speaker 1: tell me that that put to the back there, like, no,
Speaker 1: you can go through this where we're gonna put you
Speaker 1: in the vr plere gonna set you up. So I'm
Speaker 1: feeling like cool at the time. And ship, I'm popping
Speaker 1: a little bit more in my head and like Mr Brown,
Speaker 1: we got you all that good ship. So we go
Speaker 1: up to the section and uh, I can't think a
Speaker 1: face looking this thinking so funny. But he gives me
Speaker 1: the section and it's this nigga that like, this nigga
Speaker 1: is like waving me, waving, waving at me from outside
Speaker 1: the club. Thought, just like in this little door area
Speaker 1: that's in the back of the club slash venue, and
Speaker 1: this nigga waving me down. I'm looking like it's this
Speaker 1: nigga waving at me. This is like weird. I an't
Speaker 1: know this nigga. So then I'm like, I'm ignored. Security
Speaker 1: comes over to me and they're like, hey, this nigga
Speaker 1: back there say he knows you. I'm like, who the
Speaker 1: nigga said, nigga back there, I say, I don't know
Speaker 1: anybody back there from like I'm just here at the
Speaker 1: club chilling to my homies. Girl letting get off. The
Speaker 1: security things. That's smart to turn around right in that moment, No, nigga,
Speaker 1: he said he don't know, not even like walking it over.
Speaker 1: Very dangerous. I don't even know this. And he even
Speaker 1: walking over and was like hey man, they said, They're
Speaker 1: like when you don't know who it came from, it's
Speaker 1: me and him talking. Basically, this nigga right here said
Speaker 1: you ain't good him and starts hitting him with this.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, fam like I say to him in
Speaker 1: that same moment, hey nigga, I don't know that nigga.
Speaker 1: It could be craziest, could be all type doing that ship.
Speaker 1: He was like, my bad members like him. No, he
Speaker 1: said he knew, you know. I was like, all right, cool.
Speaker 1: We fucking fast forward. The nigga asked crazy gets in
Speaker 1: the in the club is crazy. Niggas always find that way,
Speaker 1: not only the club, but n v I P. So
Speaker 1: this this nigga gets in the club and not gets
Speaker 1: only the club, he gets in v I P. He
Speaker 1: comes over to me and says, hey, Nikka, I was
Speaker 1: the one way and I said, oh, my batman, I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, my bad, but you're here now,
Speaker 1: so we're good. Right, all has been sold. He was like,
Speaker 1: uh no, nigga, you gonna know who I am? And
Speaker 1: he says his name to me. It rings a slight bell,
Speaker 1: a little street nigga. But I'm also like, nick I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to hear none of this ship because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not like for me, it's very black and white.
Speaker 1: It's like you're either pressing me or you're not. So
Speaker 1: the nigga was like he had Nigga is my name?
Speaker 1: He said, ain't you the nickel from MTV. I said, yes, nigga,
Speaker 1: you know my name? And then he was like, no,
Speaker 1: nigga said my boys stepped in front of like, Nigga,
Speaker 1: we ain't talking about none of that. You can move
Speaker 1: over all this. I'm alright cool, it's all dead. One
Speaker 1: of the homies whose show I came to see is
Speaker 1: on Crazy Time. He's like, no, Nigga. So he sees
Speaker 1: Niga talking to me and steps up and hey, Nigga,
Speaker 1: I'm with all that all that ship you talked. I
Speaker 1: thought I had already do la. I thought this ship
Speaker 1: was so packed it up and put it in suitcase.
Speaker 1: Put the way I said that was supposed that. Nigga said,
Speaker 1: not close enough, Nigga over, Nigga, we with all that ship, Nigga,
Speaker 1: all that crip ship you blush you talking. I'm with
Speaker 1: all that. I'm with the g DS and the Folds.
Speaker 1: I'm with the Vice Lords and the most every game.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I'm I'm kind of with him, but
Speaker 1: not anymore. I'm not with all those games, okay. I'm
Speaker 1: like okay. So he's like, yeah, Nigga, so all that
Speaker 1: ship you with, we with all that? And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: this nigga. So they get to going both and beef
Speaker 1: and going back and for I'm like, this is crazy.
Speaker 1: I thought it was overwhere and y'all niggas are doing
Speaker 1: too much. And then this nigga taps this nigga like yo,
Speaker 1: they have you know, polied it up. I guess they
Speaker 1: got to some kind of common ground. I don't know
Speaker 1: there was in each other faces, got some kind of
Speaker 1: coming around. The nigga tasked me like, hey, you know
Speaker 1: Steve Lowe grabbed his number? Did he say they trying
Speaker 1: to link the nigga who was just presently while would
Speaker 1: I've been grabbing his number at any point? This is crazy,
Speaker 1: this is insanity. I'm working with the nigga time, so
Speaker 1: I get his number. I'm like, this is crazy. So
Speaker 1: nigga like, get me, gonna hit y'all later. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking to this nigga. The nigga hits me
Speaker 1: a day later, Hey I'm back again, basically hit me
Speaker 1: and then and say hey, I'm back. Yeah, nigga, we
Speaker 1: need to meet up. I say, what, nigga, I'm not
Speaker 1: meeting niggas, So I'll make a call to some niggas.
Speaker 1: I like, yah, nigga, y'all know this nig y'all was there.
Speaker 1: You was there, nigga. You saw this nigga being weird,
Speaker 1: But I saw weirdly. When this nigga saw my dog,
Speaker 1: he kept he was doing all the wolf wolf bark bark,
Speaker 1: but they kept bagging up. Whenever my one dog walked up,
Speaker 1: I'll be peeping rooms, n nothing from Chicago. I hit
Speaker 1: my head on a swift so I pete that this
Speaker 1: nigga is doing all this big dog ship become a
Speaker 1: lu every time my dog step up. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: if nothing else, if push comes to show them texting
Speaker 1: my dog tomorrow, But what the fund is up with this?
Speaker 1: What's going on? I hit my dog next to he said,
Speaker 1: don't talk to that nigga. Give me five minutes, and nigga,
Speaker 1: never call you again. They gave me five minutes. I
Speaker 1: ain't never hear for the nigg again. Here we are,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That was a story within
Speaker 1: the industry. Dough this this is a common story in
Speaker 1: l A. Cats trying to press their way in for sure,
Speaker 1: press their way on from and every and every guy
Speaker 1: this stay city. M hmm for shoot, this is my city. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got you leach on fast for shot. You gotta
Speaker 1: have a don't have a guy here or a few
Speaker 1: guys to help you. Nipped that in the book, nipped
Speaker 1: that in the b This has been the Ry Money podcast.
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