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Speaker 1: I'm saying the pulses around his neck. I'm saying I

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Speaker 1: my brother's right that. Yeah, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: I don't do that. You do the same movie, the

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Speaker 1: same movie, and you can never stop. You do the

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Speaker 1: us being inappropriate. The dirt. This dispensive, for sure, This

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Speaker 1: is very informative. Yes, you know what I'm saying. And

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Speaker 1: take us from the beginning, right, so it's music, it's entertainment.

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Speaker 1: Scoring the movie is a real problem. Don't understanding. Oh

425
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,959
Speaker 1: my god, that music for film. It's a whole another

426
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 1: place to muse for the regular the public and the

427
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: people that just love records on the radio. Like you're

428
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to make it connect to

429
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: this movie. You dealing with people who don't normally do music,

430
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, these licensing people, these sink people,

431
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: and oh we have this scene, can you play it

432
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: like this? Blessed to work with lou will give it up,

433
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,959
Speaker 1: give it up for you know, Black Panther. He's done

434
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: a lot of child and being no stuff. He's just

435
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: produced for everybody, does a lot of scoring. Now at

436
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: this point he's looking like one of them go to

437
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: in that field. Um so he was doing most of

438
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: the scoring. We were brought in kind of to do

439
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: the soundtrack and some'm scoring last minute too. We didn't

440
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: really have a lot of time, so I just thought

441
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: it was best it was me and fam who are

442
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: working on the project. I thought it was best to

443
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: like bringing someone who could bring us all of those

444
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: names and the same way that I kind of work

445
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: my relationships to work different things. I was like, we

446
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,239
Speaker 1: don't have time, Let's bring in somebody that has an

447
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: umbrella of network that can bring in different things. So

448
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: I tapped into Mike Will, who you know DJs the

449
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: homie tell them to Mike Will and doing the project.

450
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: Mike Will got to actually um produced the full creative

451
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: soundtrack and we had we had everybody from Kendrick to

452
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj to any name you can name was on

453
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 1: the Farrell was on the project. So it was something

454
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: I definitely was proud of for the time period that

455
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: we had as well to get it done. That's you know,

456
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: we weren't on there. Yeah he said, he said, and

457
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: didn't he nothing, that's not even First of all, the

458
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: little dog tried to attack me and somebody. You know

459
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Nucky, that's a little name. Get me

460
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: there about the whole soundtrack, I'm like, man, this is

461
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: so cool. Wow, that's amazing. We're gonna be on it.

462
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: We're not on it, but I mean it's so many

463
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: more days for us to work and so many Yeah,

464
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't hit me for nothing. Show we're

465
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: going there. I'm just saying, family, my sister already know

466
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: what's going on. She hit me like, yeah, look she

467
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 1: kicked she kicked it off like that. Just know whenever

468
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 1: she called me and say, brother, how much you need?

469
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: How much you need? I like, your sister, bro, your mom,

470
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: your pop is your brothers bro, Like, I'm fully locked in.

471
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: So whatever they need. When we in Chicago, we always

472
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: say now and my sister is biggest fan, is scary

473
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: how much she loves you? Um so yeah you are.

474
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: That's a nigga's sisters. Yeah, she a thug nigger. And

475
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: she'd be like, I love take. I've never seen you

476
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: so saw on phone. I love have you? Have you

477
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: seen my earlier photographs? I've seen you, brom you. I'm

478
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: a big fan. I appealed to. I'm a big fan

479
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: to you know what I'm saying to the goons, to

480
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: the church people like all of those things in one

481
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: since that's the segway for it, though, what what you

482
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: funk with in this R and B space because Tank,

483
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: come on, man, you got your you got your you

484
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: got your segment. Well you you know you're asked him

485
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: real R and B questions. He's been around a lot

486
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: of great R and B. Yeah, you know a lot

487
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: of great R and B. We've all been in the

488
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: rooms together. Yeah, for sure. So very cool. You you

489
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: have opinions, you have thoughts, you have musicality running through

490
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: your veins. You eat, you know, you eat it the private,

491
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: in the private like back kitchen at the Lita, right

492
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: like you don't eat with the people. The people don't

493
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: we talk private? Very here we go talk, go ahead.

494
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: That room's not public to everybody. I'm joking. I brought

495
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: it back in diamonds, drilled in diamonds to the pearls.

496
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all hurt. I don't even know

497
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: if Prince had that. The diamonds are drilled in the

498
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 1: black pearls. You know you got to coordinate. Okay, um,

499
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: top five R and B artists, and this is from us.

500
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: I can ask that what okay? Is there is there

501
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: an error? You coog who? I just want to ask

502
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: a couple of questions. I answer this ship, do you

503
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: mean this is Is this just from like vocally or

504
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: are you saying this is from numbers? This is if

505
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: you were putting, if you were grabbing some seat, let's

506
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: save you a CD Star Star use a if you

507
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: were Tower the Tower records you need to and you're

508
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: about to grab your top five R and B c ds.

509
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: You got George Daniel spot Yeah. I don't stand about

510
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: kills at all, but R Kelly is one of the

511
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: top R and B niggers of all time. And I'm

512
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: for Chicago, so I gotta say that. Um, he's the guy.

513
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: All that rape stuff is not my thing, but the

514
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: R and B amazing. I'm trying to think of who

515
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: oh top uh you know Teddy if he can if

516
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: you want to, you want we got love R and

517
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: B way too much to even answer you. Yeah, but

518
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: like yeah, Rushmore do only get you far? Okay, So

519
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: he's got Teddy, then we got we got Luthor. Um,

520
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: then I'm I'm getting sexist. I don't know why I'm

521
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: doing that, because because Witney you can, you can go

522
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: Whitney to Like, why would I even play that game?

523
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: It's so many people. This is I don't like this

524
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: list I made the list. Don't like like it's a

525
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: good list, but I don't respect it. It's too many people,

526
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: Like I think there are so many people one you

527
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: got one last place on the list work throw is

528
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: it for us? The list is favo moving. It's never

529
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: it is. There's so many people I really like and

530
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: I am keep my job. No, your show is called ridiculous.

531
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: It's called ridiculousness. Ridiculous. I'm trying to Okay, I wouldn't

532
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: normally go USh. I'm trying to think, is that really?

533
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: You know who I used to really funk with, like

534
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: all the way before he came a Target artist, was

535
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: on John Legend. I used to really love John. A

536
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: target artist, that's when your album at the front of Target,

537
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: when you're checking out in your albums, Like, No, it's

538
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: just like saying, like I'm making music for the masses,

539
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: for the man. I'm not saying the bad bigger I'm not.

540
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: Don't get a confused, Listen, I've never heard that term

541
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: a target artist. I've never heard I made it up

542
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: all of my albums. I also made it up. But

543
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: my album comes out and Target check out check out

544
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: the front to check out the front with with a

545
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: thing with a whole check out check your names, but

546
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: it's Knig is John Legend is Jennifer Husband. Don't make

547
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: me name the checkout artists take I love you, but

548
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: you're not a checkout artist. They said check this out,

549
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: but then check out artists is the thing is Christmas

550
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: album here in July? Check out it's not good. I'm

551
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: not saying. I'm not saying about checkout safe? Yeah safe?

552
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: Why can't you don't want to be I've been at

553
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: the front of Target before, like three times. Check out though,

554
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: to checkout is different. Whatever top five R and B

555
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: songs or albums you can you can interest songs or

556
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: you can interest album my Gray's inspiration from ted DV.

557
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: Let's go back there. Um so my inspiration inspiration, that's

558
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: the record, that's the one record albums Uh why loving

559
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: pain my ship? Nothing? Started saying, I'm saying that's my

560
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: dog for sure. Ye out here, man, that's that's my

561
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: that's my album, right's there. It's never at the checkout though,

562
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: check because you don't have no shirts. Niggers with no

563
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: shirts are not at the checkout field. And you ain't

564
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: never had an album cover with a shirt. He did

565
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: it was a mistake. I told I don't know, I

566
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: told it was cool. Everybody got it was mostly my fault,

567
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: but everybody he was like, told me, you only want

568
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: to told me okay, okay, Uh, you know I ain't

569
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: got to keep in with the Slammers on but TP

570
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: two Uh these yeah, these are like these projects for me,

571
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: Like you know, Confessions is like as much as its hype,

572
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: it's it's Confessions. Like it's like, what are we talking about? Confessions?

573
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 1: The greatest period I love. I'd be like liking, uh,

574
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: is it? Is it? In my own words, I'm trying

575
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: think Neo's album, the first one? What was that ship?

576
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: What was it called? Yes, it's something very similar to

577
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: my own words, in my words or something like that,

578
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 1: my own words, it might be first album is amazing,

579
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: but it's certain. I mean those are still those are

580
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: not necessarily you know, throughout history for me, albums for

581
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: me like, yeah, it used to really be like this

582
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: album is incredible. Yeah, like this album isn't. Yeah, it

583
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: makes you feel something for sure. I can go back

584
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: to all those albums too and still play. That's important.

585
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: It's very important. And I think with R and B

586
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: because R and B is so timeless a rap, you know,

587
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: it kind of goes up in the air here and there.

588
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're like really going back and playing some ship.

589
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: But at R and B, like, I believe you should

590
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: be able. It is the core of so many other

591
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: genres that I believe you should be able to go

592
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: back and still listen and be like this shill. I

593
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: mean I listened to old Yeah records. You're like, yea

594
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: from this still go still feel good. Yeah, we're gonna

595
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: get to that too, because we want to get to

596
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: something I heard earlier. Um, are be vote Trump? If

597
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: you're putting in the ultimate R and B artist together,

598
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: like you're on two K building the place? What pieces

599
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 1: do you take to build one mail? Build a mail?

600
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: But I'm not like building them like a real transformed

601
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: like this person for their hands, No, you know, I

602
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: like her fingers, but they like a vocalist. But I

603
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: kind of want to go with you. Who are you

604
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: babbing the vocal from? Matter of fact, I'll help you

605
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: who you grabbing the vocal from? That is so like

606
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: it is tough because there's so many different tones and

607
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: different reasons you like different tones, and like you've been

608
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: in that Teddy p bag. Like I'm trying to think

609
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: who like, Yeah, it's different, like vocalists do different things

610
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: that I just be like, like like you building yours? Yeah,

611
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: yeah artist. Okay, Brandy is a vocalist. I really fun. Yeah,

612
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: I just don't getting Brandy and shout out lean let

613
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: me let me do Brandy on there as a vocalist. Uh,

614
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: what else are you doing? Who would you performance? Value?

615
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: Stage president? Okay? Oh, I mean you cb is. I

616
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: mean I don't think necessarily that I'm making an artist

617
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: that I'm like, these are gonna be all the things

618
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: you can check. This is a superhero. Okay, as long

619
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: as we are, what are we talking about? Is cbe? Uh?

620
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: Is style? Oh? Style? You gotta have to market this artist? Yeah? Yeah,

621
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: because i'd be I'd be keen on style too. I'm

622
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: dressed by me right now. But trust pretty normally I'm

623
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: trying to think it was style. I'm like, yo, be

624
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: getting fits off from any area? Yeah, Marvin gat a

625
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: slick style classic and it's like my type of ship

626
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: wasn't like he smoked a whole bunch of just put

627
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: some ship together and he's just a fly nigger. Yeah. Yeah,

628
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: just what the is that he went a fish net.

629
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: It's gorgeous, you know, like yeah, yeah, so Marvin Gaye

630
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: style for sure, it was fly um and then where

631
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: else we were used to style, we got vocalists, we

632
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: got performance. Uh that those three races s yeah, brandy artists, Randy,

633
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Yeah, Marvin Marvin Yeah, yeah, that's decent. You

634
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah says let me still that

635
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: there's got to put inflection on any other Okay, um,

636
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: what aren't you listen to you right now? M right

637
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: now in this moment. Uh, the Blast record, I'm forgetting

638
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: names with huh Blast dopest. But I mean I love you.

639
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: I love some of these dudes up be dropping shot

640
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: by these names. It's nice, yeah for sure, for sure.

641
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: I think that's probably I'm trying to think. Is it

642
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: something I'm really like? I mean, I don't want to

643
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: seem cliche. Break my soul really makes my soul feel rich.

644
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: It feels amazing. I love to hear. I mean, how

645
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: it started in Chicago, How it started in Chicago, How

646
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: it started in Chicago? You know what I'm saying? And

647
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: like the what you hate that so much? The rain

648
00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: dance that it looks like, and what's when y'all getting there?

649
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: That's not that's something totally different now dancing on somebody. Okay,

650
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: so Chicago, right, yeah, now we're here, Yeah, we're here,

651
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: give us the juke scene the footwork like right, because

652
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: every now it's like everybody who taps into Chicago that

653
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: don't know just everybody thinks it's just drill music. But

654
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: that's you know, now it's drill people that really know

655
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: Chicago is like the taste of Chicago, the food, right,

656
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: But then the dancing, right, I had to experience it

657
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: myself and see it. Always make jokes about it because

658
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: I can't do it. Yeah, it's the funniest in the

659
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: world to me, but I can't do the ship right.

660
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: Break that down to it though, because Jack, like Tank,

661
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: we both juking and footworking pretty the same thing. I Mean,

662
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: you could be like, I'm going to a juke party,

663
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: but juke in itself was like when a girl was

664
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: dancing on you, she juking on you, and that well,

665
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: that ship just juking. That party of juke. That just

666
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: means like a certain dance as a certain dance, footworking

667
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: is completely different. It's moving your feet, then you got

668
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: like um bobbing. It's a whole bunch of different dances.

669
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: I think. Also what people not realizing is that the

670
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: biggest rap dance record of all times comes from Chicago,

671
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: of all time, Slide from cash Man, uh he from Chicago.

672
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: Cass was one of the original rap like innovators and

673
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: stuff like during the African and bottom days. He was

674
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: an early rap pie and then for Chicago and then

675
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: yeah he you know, he has a little movement and

676
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: stuff back in the day, but his biggest record, obviously

677
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: Cass was like yea, So like yeah, dance itself has

678
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: always been within the culture. Like you go to different

679
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: cities and everybody not necessarily dancing every city you go

680
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: to or different you know what I'm saying. Bottimore got

681
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: some good club music, New Jersey, New York, different places

682
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: you go. It might be the Oakland might be dancing,

683
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: but like certain other places, you know, people just be

684
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: chilling the walls or be in the club scene. In Chicago.

685
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: Choice cities that actually have dancing places, right like the

686
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: Bay like you said, we got we got the hype

687
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: movement that l a. There's more towards the gang culture,

688
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: but it's still dancing, you know what I mean, Like

689
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: it's it's still that in Chicago. Has so is that

690
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: connected to the streets like that too, dars? No, is

691
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: it just now you could like it was probably if anything,

692
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: like you had your groups like house rest is probably

693
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: a way to stay out of the streets. Gonna be

694
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: a buck with you. Like dancing were just parties. You

695
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: would go to basing parties and stuff and everybody to

696
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: be dancing. Street ning is definitely dance because well, I

697
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: think it's funny in certain cities you could definitely be around.

698
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: Definitely did. Yeah. Also in New York train things at

699
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: the best knees right now in the world. That's the ship.

700
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: It's not getting started, yea. Yeah. But it's like also

701
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: like the thought of Nigga's doing a full hearing that

702
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: bit out beyond me. Yeah, but I mean the dance,

703
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: the whole dance was crazy. Me and my brother's definitely

704
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: full work. Definitely, that was something that was the way

705
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: I was like a mouthpiece almost, like you go to

706
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: parties and if you can dance, if you would do that,

707
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: like I wanted that attention of like let me dance,

708
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: that was your way of picking up chicks for sure.

709
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: That's the like when you talk about dance, what you're

710
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: doing right now, the nigga marries a dancer, and now

711
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: in his mom it's not it's not it's not it's

712
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: not in my it's not in my mind. See in

713
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: eighth grade, Okay, we're going back eighth grade. Eighth grade

714
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: prom I won that dance contest. Okay, who else is

715
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: going to get me? Who was going against all the

716
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: kids from the hood? Everybody, nobody, everybody wanted you remember

717
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: nobody name. I mean nobody was a good dancing. The

718
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: only thing in my head is songs, lyrics and melodies

719
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: that all this left. We was dancing to everything. I

720
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: was eighth grade. What was that? Was Bobby Brown doing

721
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: something back then? Okay he was really danced. No, I

722
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: was really dance, just really running, man was passion. It

723
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: was really it was really flipping. I was the first CB.

724
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I did a summer salt

725
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: on beach. That was me. Know what I'm saying in

726
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: hard bottoms, He's the first Chris Brown. Yeah, I don't know.

727
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I'm just saying I did to flip

728
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: on beat like listening to this music. It was it

729
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: was dad, so they allowed it. And then you know

730
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, cut to my my first single. Know

731
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you did dance? No, I don't know.

732
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to allude to is that I was.

733
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: I danced in that video and I danced very well.

734
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: Now that's the part I'm what did do? That's not

735
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: what we what we're talking about the song. Yeah, the

736
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: song had a different effect, but it wasn't about my dance.

737
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: My dance, you know what I'm saying, was my gift

738
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: and they saw that. Cut to you know what I'm

739
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: saying another song where I danced in Um You're My Star.

740
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm starting to see a correlation between me dan song,

741
00:44:53,440 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: but the whole rap every time he is my dance.

742
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: I can dance. Can you dance? Yes? I can dance?

743
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: You still like do a move each show? I can

744
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: do choreography. It just looks strange. It's no, No, surely

745
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 1: your burden of dance has just been the mic stand

746
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: just like I guess I think it should has buzzles

747
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: this brew. But if that's what a man I can dance,

748
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: I can do choreography. People can do stuff that. I mean,

749
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: they should do it. No, no, and it's like everybody

750
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: like people have a voice, but like that mean you

751
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: should like always use it, you know what I'm saying,

752
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: Like you could probably dance. I just don't know if

753
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: people necessarily want to see it. You know, you have

754
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: a record that I just heard, Yeah, you have a record.

755
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: No do it. No, I'm not it's gonna do it. No,

756
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: I'm no, I'm not, No, I'm not. What I'm saying

757
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: is that the record I heard, As you said, you

758
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: should be able to go back to R and B

759
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: moments and they should be able to um you know,

760
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: standing the test of time and that Avant record that

761
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: you sample it's absolutely you know. And then Avanti Kiki

762
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: and now you sample it, sampled it, um and and

763
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: she sounds dope. Yeah. I was listening to some ship

764
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: today like from a different artist, and it was a

765
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: cool like a dope R and B sample. I was like,

766
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: damn and use as super dope And I was just

767
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: like yo, just time as R and B is like,

768
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, I think we did our job on that

769
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: record on My Love with Me and Buddy and Aaron

770
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: ray out to them. But in the same brother, I'm like,

771
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: very cold that record, thank you that record, though I'm

772
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: still like, that's that's just R and B classic. There's

773
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: certain things, yeah, you like even you know, you don't

774
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: always as a kid, you would hear hit records sometimes

775
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: and you'd be like really good and wouldn't know there

776
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: was a sample and there or that there was that

777
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: your parents took and was like this because timeless and

778
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: classic music just don't fucking go nowhere. So like we

779
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: like when I heard that beat, I was just like,

780
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: what this is a pinner from me? Rob Holiday? Dud

781
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: shout to Rob Holiday. Yeah for sure, yea at your

782
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: cup you need no, no, we can't. But yeah that

783
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: so for you the music side, right, the artist artist side,

784
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: is that just purely a passion thing for you where

785
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: you just like, you know what, I got these thoughts

786
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: I want to do something? Or is it are you

787
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 1: from your from your point of view? Are you looking

788
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: at it like I'm trying to compete. I'm about to

789
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: go all out. I'm about to be doing radio at

790
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: six in the morning, I'm about to be flying too

791
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: cities I didn't even know existed in the country here.

792
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: Or is it just like you know whatnot. I just

793
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: feel good about some music. I want to put it out.

794
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: I want to just vibe. I think there's a balance.

795
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: I think like honestly, it's it's the first one. It's

796
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: me really want to put music out and wanted to

797
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: create um for myself before creatives in the sense of, like,

798
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: you know, people project on you so much and tell

799
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: you what you can and can't do. Whatever I makes

800
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: sense for you, what you can do that, because that's

801
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: gonna disturb this this I've wanted to put out music again,

802
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: whether it be me behind the scenes in front of

803
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: whatever it was. I wanted to dibble and dab, will

804
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: have my hands in music. So I like went about

805
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: this project. It was really just me doing it because

806
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: my my my therapist told me to, like, yo, just

807
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: do something to help you release something that you never

808
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: completely before. I was like black man in therapy, Yeah

809
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: for sure, I love that shout out to get in

810
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 1: touch with your feelings. Yeah, and we get we're getting stronger.

811
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: He's week I'm getting stronger. But as black men, you

812
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: just touched on something that we we kind of go

813
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: around in our culture right as far as you know,

814
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: going to therapy, finding outlets to get these things off

815
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: our mind. You know, someone just someone telling you you

816
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: should try this, addressing the traumas man, because you know,

817
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: we we come from brokenness, you know what I'm saying.

818
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: That's the origin of us even being here in the

819
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: first place, and so unconsciously, you know what I mean,

820
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: things have been passed down, you know, from whether it

821
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: be whether it be traits or just practices, you know

822
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: what I mean, that just played us just because Yeah,

823
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: I have an argument that the latter might be a

824
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: little hard to argue, but I argue that any black

825
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: person here in America is duple therapy just from living

826
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: here in America. Uh. And then on top of that,

827
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: I would even argue, as much as this sounds like,

828
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: uh my Christian side and being forgiving it all the times,

829
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: that every white person should be in therapy as well,

830
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: for for them living here in America. Like, We've went

831
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: through so many things here that are not even within

832
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: your household, not even with that, just you know, just

833
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: from surviving here that you know you either talk through

834
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: or understand or be able to break down and be like, well,

835
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: why is this thing making me feel this way? Or

836
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: look at this thing, this way. So I try to

837
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: definitely go to therapy. It's made me nothing but a

838
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: better person for sure. For you, I'm gonna hang out

839
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: hang out with you what not even know I'm in therapy, No,

840
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: you justson, I do think I'm a better person. I

841
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: try to be ship. Yeah, I appreciate that. I try

842
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: to make sure that like I'm really um leaving something behind,

843
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: you know, if nothing else. You know what I'm saying,

844
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: it's a sweet tweaked. Some nig is definitely be tweaking.

845
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It depends on what they're smoking,

846
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: for sure. But now I'll be trying to like really

847
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: look at life that way and be like, what am

848
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: I leaving behind? What legacy? So even when UM thinking

849
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: about that from the music standpoint, it's not even that

850
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a part of my legacy.

851
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: But I'd be damned if I live a life well,

852
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: I didn't do things I wanted to do just because

853
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: of side somebody else told me that I shouldn't do it. Look,

854
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: I could have easily dropped the music project and everybody said,

855
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: please fucking never do that again. Luckily for me, nobody

856
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 1: said that I've gotten nothing but good responses, positive feedback,

857
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: and then on top that I did it for me,

858
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: so I feel, you know, success. You know, have I

859
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: died into any project? I asked myself what success looks

860
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: like one at the end, what am I doing this for?

861
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: What am I so? For me? I'd already achieved success

862
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: by just getting my thoughts out and just doing this

863
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: ship because it was scary as hell being like, hey man,

864
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: you do this completely different thing you television or you've

865
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: done this thing over here now people that you know,

866
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: most my most relationships I've had in music are from

867
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: me being a manager, of me being this thing now

868
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: to hit people up and be like, hey, can you

869
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: send me some being with me? Nigga? What first? When

870
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: I first started my project, I was line in this.

871
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: I was being like, Yo, send me some bes. I'm

872
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: working on a secret project on working on and Nika

873
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: just like, send me stuff because you know, relationship with

874
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: me and you know I ain't never hears up with

875
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: a bull, so maybe it's gonna be all right. It

876
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: was for me, all me. It was all for me.

877
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: But you know, as the project is came out and

878
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: people were like, yo, honestly, it's it's it's good as

879
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: that I've I've I've enjoyed it, and I've been I've

880
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: been cooking up a little more. You know what I'm saying.

881
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: It's again, it's still for me, it's still I'm not

882
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: expecting to be the biggest ropper of the biggest artists

883
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: in the world. That's not what I'm here for. I've

884
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: been blessed enough to, I guess, get these dreams out.

885
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: Dreams are expensive as fun. So for me to be

886
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: able to even do this as a is a luxury.

887
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: It's a blessing by God. But for me also to

888
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: get it out, it's a form of therapy as well.

889
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 1: For me just to continue to to to to release

890
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: and create a d As I wake up each morning,

891
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: I just want to create. So this is one of

892
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: the outlets I've gotten. It allows me a layer of

893
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: myself as I dive into different different things. It just

894
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: allows people to keep looking at you being like, we

895
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: don't know what this nigga can do. M And they

896
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: shouldn't know everything. You should be able to continue to surprise. Yeah,

897
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: especially if you can do the work and you do

898
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: it at a high level. Right, So shout out to

899
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: the el Dorado Excursion. I appreciate that, man, I appreciate

900
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 1: you know, we have this very important part of the show,

901
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: very very important part. I know he can do it.

902
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: I know. I'm scared. I listen. I'm I'm a bet.

903
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet myself something to go ahead, Okay, I'm

904
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: gonna bet myself. So the part of the show is

905
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: called I ain't saying no names. M will you tell us?

906
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: You tell us? Yeah, these niggas is sick? Yeah, somebody

907
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: that's crazy? Right. The story can need to be funny

908
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: or funked up or both. Okay, damn, I don't know.

909
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: I was with you, man, But also like what story

910
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: belongs to the one I know? The only rule I'm

911
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: trying to think. Damn. Oh, I'm trying to think of

912
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 1: a good story, like no bullshit. I have so many

913
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: stories just over the years of just being around. Um,

914
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: this should be R and B based, it should be

915
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 1: a story. This story might not have a hit. Fuck

916
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: if this story don't hit them, be sad because it's

917
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 1: a story. We know you, we know you're funny. You've

918
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: been funny about that. It's uh, go back. I could

919
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: say some names don't need to it's me. It's just me.

920
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: The story is about men saying that you can't say

921
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: nobody names. I didn't do nothing like that, man, you

922
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: can't myself. All right, let me let me think then,

923
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: because if you didn't incriminated that story, I kind of

924
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: think of a better story because that story I had

925
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: was just about being a broken nigger. That was it. Um. Yeah,

926
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: I trying to think because the other story and thinking

927
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: about that's come out y'all got you on that? What it? No,

928
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like a story that's don't

929
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: feel light, but it's like that's funny. Uh yeah yeah uh.

930
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: This thing is face because he's just thinking like, yeah,

931
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: whatever you're thinking about that now, that's the one. Don't

932
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: overthink it. Oh, I got a story. I see all them.

933
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: That story either doesn't involved some other things I know,

934
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: I know, but like that, these stories are like the

935
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: stories that they're funny to me, but they're not necessarily

936
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: like it was a nigga. It was I went to

937
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: the show one time, right, my boy hit me, like,

938
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: YO put up to this show. I'm not the show

939
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: at this venue out here in l a uh and

940
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: I only be going to this venue because like the

941
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: kind of venue it is, I'd be like, it's gonna

942
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: be up in the l type of nick is gonna

943
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: be there, the type of whole vibe is gonna be

944
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: or we set up correctly, whatever, But my boy having

945
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: the show, So I'm like gonna be supported. I'm a

946
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: good friend here I am, So I pull up, I

947
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: get there earlier to everybody else. Right, cool whatever they

948
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: tell me that that put to the back there, like, no,

949
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: you can go through this where we're gonna put you

950
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: in the vr plere gonna set you up. So I'm

951
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: feeling like cool at the time. And ship, I'm popping

952
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more in my head and like Mr Brown,

953
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: we got you all that good ship. So we go

954
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: up to the section and uh, I can't think a

955
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: face looking this thinking so funny. But he gives me

956
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: the section and it's this nigga that like, this nigga

957
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: is like waving me, waving, waving at me from outside

958
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: the club. Thought, just like in this little door area

959
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: that's in the back of the club slash venue, and

960
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: this nigga waving me down. I'm looking like it's this

961
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: nigga waving at me. This is like weird. I an't

962
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: know this nigga. So then I'm like, I'm ignored. Security

963
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: comes over to me and they're like, hey, this nigga

964
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: back there say he knows you. I'm like, who the

965
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: nigga said, nigga back there, I say, I don't know

966
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: anybody back there from like I'm just here at the

967
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: club chilling to my homies. Girl letting get off. The

968
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: security things. That's smart to turn around right in that moment, No, nigga,

969
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: he said he don't know, not even like walking it over.

970
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: Very dangerous. I don't even know this. And he even

971
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: walking over and was like hey man, they said, They're

972
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: like when you don't know who it came from, it's

973
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: me and him talking. Basically, this nigga right here said

974
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: you ain't good him and starts hitting him with this.

975
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, fam like I say to him in

976
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: that same moment, hey nigga, I don't know that nigga.

977
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: It could be craziest, could be all type doing that ship.

978
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: He was like, my bad members like him. No, he

979
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: said he knew, you know. I was like, all right, cool.

980
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: We fucking fast forward. The nigga asked crazy gets in

981
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: the in the club is crazy. Niggas always find that way,

982
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: not only the club, but n v I P. So

983
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: this this nigga gets in the club and not gets

984
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: only the club, he gets in v I P. He

985
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: comes over to me and says, hey, Nikka, I was

986
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: the one way and I said, oh, my batman, I

987
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, my bad, but you're here now,

988
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: so we're good. Right, all has been sold. He was like,

989
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: uh no, nigga, you gonna know who I am? And

990
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 1: he says his name to me. It rings a slight bell,

991
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: a little street nigga. But I'm also like, nick I'm

992
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: not trying to hear none of this ship because I'm like,

993
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm not like for me, it's very black and white.

994
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: It's like you're either pressing me or you're not. So

995
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: the nigga was like he had Nigga is my name?

996
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: He said, ain't you the nickel from MTV. I said, yes, nigga,

997
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: you know my name? And then he was like, no,

998
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,959
Speaker 1: nigga said my boys stepped in front of like, Nigga,

999
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: we ain't talking about none of that. You can move

1000
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: over all this. I'm alright cool, it's all dead. One

1001
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: of the homies whose show I came to see is

1002
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: on Crazy Time. He's like, no, Nigga. So he sees

1003
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: Niga talking to me and steps up and hey, Nigga,

1004
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm with all that all that ship you talked. I

1005
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: thought I had already do la. I thought this ship

1006
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: was so packed it up and put it in suitcase.

1007
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: Put the way I said that was supposed that. Nigga said,

1008
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: not close enough, Nigga over, Nigga, we with all that ship, Nigga,

1009
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: all that crip ship you blush you talking. I'm with

1010
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: all that. I'm with the g DS and the Folds.

1011
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm with the Vice Lords and the most every game.

1012
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I'm I'm kind of with him, but

1013
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: not anymore. I'm not with all those games, okay. I'm

1014
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: like okay. So he's like, yeah, Nigga, so all that

1015
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: ship you with, we with all that? And I was like, okay,

1016
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: this nigga. So they get to going both and beef

1017
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: and going back and for I'm like, this is crazy.

1018
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: I thought it was overwhere and y'all niggas are doing

1019
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: too much. And then this nigga taps this nigga like yo,

1020
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: they have you know, polied it up. I guess they

1021
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: got to some kind of common ground. I don't know

1022
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: there was in each other faces, got some kind of

1023
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: coming around. The nigga tasked me like, hey, you know

1024
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: Steve Lowe grabbed his number? Did he say they trying

1025
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: to link the nigga who was just presently while would

1026
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: I've been grabbing his number at any point? This is crazy,

1027
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: this is insanity. I'm working with the nigga time, so

1028
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: I get his number. I'm like, this is crazy. So

1029
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: nigga like, get me, gonna hit y'all later. I'm like,

1030
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm not talking to this nigga. The nigga hits me

1031
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: a day later, Hey I'm back again, basically hit me

1032
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: and then and say hey, I'm back. Yeah, nigga, we

1033
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: need to meet up. I say, what, nigga, I'm not

1034
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: meeting niggas, So I'll make a call to some niggas.

1035
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: I like, yah, nigga, y'all know this nig y'all was there.

1036
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: You was there, nigga. You saw this nigga being weird,

1037
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: But I saw weirdly. When this nigga saw my dog,

1038
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: he kept he was doing all the wolf wolf bark bark,

1039
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: but they kept bagging up. Whenever my one dog walked up,

1040
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: I'll be peeping rooms, n nothing from Chicago. I hit

1041
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: my head on a swift so I pete that this

1042
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: nigga is doing all this big dog ship become a

1043
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: lu every time my dog step up. So I'm like,

1044
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: if nothing else, if push comes to show them texting

1045
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: my dog tomorrow, But what the fund is up with this?

1046
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: What's going on? I hit my dog next to he said,

1047
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: don't talk to that nigga. Give me five minutes, and nigga,

1048
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Speaker 1: never call you again. They gave me five minutes. I

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Speaker 1: ain't never hear for the nigg again. Here we are,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That was a story within

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Speaker 1: the industry. Dough this this is a common story in

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Speaker 1: l A. Cats trying to press their way in for sure,

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Speaker 1: press their way on from and every and every guy

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Speaker 1: this stay city. M hmm for shoot, this is my city. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got you leach on fast for shot. You gotta

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Speaker 1: have a don't have a guy here or a few

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Speaker 1: guys to help you. Nipped that in the book, nipped

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Speaker 1: that in the b This has been the Ry Money podcast.

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Speaker 1: And this brother right here man with the flurl zone

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Speaker 1: and the diamonds of drilled in. That's steel brim Man,

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Speaker 1: my guy man, you got mad at me? Problems and

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Speaker 1: Money R and B Money is a production of the

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