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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio everybody. This is the final episode for

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Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise this season. I'm Ben and I'm Ashley,

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Speaker 1: and we are very excited during the day, but we

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Speaker 1: are also very excited about our first guest. We have

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Speaker 1: a rock star on the line calling in who has

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Speaker 1: made a huge name for herself, not only on The

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Speaker 1: Bachelor with Nick, but in Bachelor in Paradise. She's part

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Speaker 1: of the love triangle. Christina is on the line today.

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Speaker 1: I am very excited for Christina. I've texted her a

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Speaker 1: little bit throughout this season. She actually said the sweetest

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Speaker 1: thing to me last week. She said, like, through this podcast,

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Speaker 1: I've been able to describe a lot of the feelings

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Speaker 1: that she has had throughout the season that she couldn't

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Speaker 1: really rebalize herself. So that was nice. She's a listener, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, that's really I know. So people

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Speaker 1: on the show are listening to our podcast. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: makes me feel good that I've been able to articulate

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Speaker 1: some of the frustration she must have had watching it

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Speaker 1: back and being there and all that. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: actually you are I don't know if you want to

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Speaker 1: be called this out. You kind of are an expert,

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Speaker 1: and um, you know, not the expert in Paradise, but you.

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Speaker 1: I'm continue to read these the social media response to

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Speaker 1: our our podcast, and I feel like every woman out

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Speaker 1: there continues to say Ashley says, um, the things that

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Speaker 1: I either don't know how to say or verbalize, the

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Speaker 1: feelings that I don't know how to verbalize. So I

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Speaker 1: guess all those women out there and men as well

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Speaker 1: as to watch the show, you are kind of speaking

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Speaker 1: for them. So uh, nice job. Well thanks, That's it's

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Speaker 1: so nice to hear, because sometimes I feel like maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm not tough enough, you know how last week we're

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Speaker 1: talking about tough love, and I don't at all. I'm

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Speaker 1: just always saying like, oh, I feel bad for her

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Speaker 1: because of this and for that, and I never blame

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Speaker 1: anybody's behavior. Maybe it's because I just know how girls

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Speaker 1: really act in these situations and you know, and just

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Speaker 1: show it, you know, don't try to hide it. And

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Speaker 1: if I don't know, because that's I never hit anything

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Speaker 1: on Paradise. So finale, let's talk about this, ben Um.

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Speaker 1: It was the most sped up finale of all time,

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Speaker 1: I think after watching last week's episode, I was like,

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Speaker 1: wait a second, you're telling me they're going to wrap

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Speaker 1: this whole thing up in two hours, and they really

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Speaker 1: just breathed through it. Um. We had Christan and jack

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Speaker 1: Stone break up in the beginning, and it was funny

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Speaker 1: because obviously Jack like planned, he was talking about marrying

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Speaker 1: her and then she was like, a second, I don't

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Speaker 1: even want to call you my boyfriend, which kind of

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Speaker 1: like was if you know how last week she came

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Speaker 1: on here and she said, oh, I'm not really even

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Speaker 1: that attractive to any of those guys that basically came through. Well,

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Speaker 1: but Jack Stone thing is weird to me. Um, the

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Speaker 1: whole kind of station didn't make sense, Like I felt

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Speaker 1: like in that situation, Jack was in the right. All

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Speaker 1: he was saying was are you in the me or not?

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Speaker 1: And she kept trying to push it to be something

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Speaker 1: it wasn't. I just think she should have been more

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Speaker 1: honest and said Jack, I'm not into you. This isn't

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Speaker 1: gonna work in any circumstance. But I don't even know

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Speaker 1: if I'm willing to be a friend right now. This

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Speaker 1: whole situation is crazy. Yes, she called them in a

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Speaker 1: quate they're communicating. Yeah. Um, but then again, I guess

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Speaker 1: you can question if you weren't really into him, then

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Speaker 1: why are you still there? And just the answer to

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Speaker 1: that question is always like, well I like to be

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Speaker 1: on TV. Well, the thing is, we know it and

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Speaker 1: and I've I brought it up a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: But the weirdest thing about Paradise to me is this

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Speaker 1: like pursuit of a rose. Everybody's like every week people

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Speaker 1: are stuffling around and if if they're single, they're trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out who they're going to hit on that

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Speaker 1: night to get the rose. And I think we we

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Speaker 1: we saw this week there's this weird dynamic going on

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Speaker 1: in Paradise. I get it. People are responding to the

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Speaker 1: finale and saying this wasn't what I expect if this

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Speaker 1: season wasn't as good as past seasons. Um, but we

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Speaker 1: do have to take a step back and and say, okay,

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Speaker 1: for a disrupted bats in Paradise right that this wasn't

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Speaker 1: the typical format. It was russ they were, they were

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Speaker 1: there less for a lot less amount of time. We

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Speaker 1: got something right. We we got love, we found some

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Speaker 1: people found love. We had some drama, we had storylines.

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Speaker 1: We got tears. Like when I watched Bachelor and Paradise

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Speaker 1: what I watch it for, we got in a very

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Speaker 1: cast credit for going out and really trying hard to

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Speaker 1: at least they got something out there. I love Lazy

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Speaker 1: and the Canadian guy Daniel, who I went on a

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Speaker 1: date with one and uh, yeah, that guy sucks. I

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Speaker 1: can't always talk to him later in the day because

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Speaker 1: normally I don't think Daniel sucks. I usually just think

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Speaker 1: he's a weirdo. But after last night's episode, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: Daniel yours. Well, that's the thing is I brought this

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Speaker 1: up and and hopefully we'll build to ask Daniel uh

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Speaker 1: have Daniel online on air, but yeah, and I can't

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Speaker 1: wait for him to respond to um Lacey's comments about

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Speaker 1: the fact that they had like hung out all year long,

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Speaker 1: or at least that they hung out once they hooked

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Speaker 1: up and then they texted throughout the year. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: the thing, is he almost he just he kind of

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Speaker 1: Power played it when he came on this show this time.

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Speaker 1: I think he walked in. He was so confident. He

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Speaker 1: made some crazy comments about women about sex, and then he,

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Speaker 1: you know, he meets up with Lacey and they have

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Speaker 1: this kind of I guess explosion of love, um nos

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Speaker 1: our explosion of love. Remember she she thought that she

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Speaker 1: was going on a date with him, and he goes,

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Speaker 1: how why are you assuming this? You have to work

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Speaker 1: for it. I still have other women here to talk to. Look, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I get it, But I mean I remember an episode

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Speaker 1: before that when she was saying her perfect man was Daniel.

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Speaker 1: I feel bad? Do you mean I feel bad for

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Speaker 1: her taste in men if her ideal is Daniel? As

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Speaker 1: he knows that that's a good point. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: got to ask about this because it really is. He

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Speaker 1: I think he means well, and I think he's trying

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Speaker 1: to the bottom of Daniel, like why is why? Why? Sex?

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Speaker 1: I want to know why he feels like that's appropriate

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Speaker 1: briefly at Jade's baby shower, and I just got the

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Speaker 1: watch your story unfold. Hey, what's from you too? I

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Speaker 1: I remember when Alexas turned around back when we were

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Speaker 1: two wonderful people that he's kind of falling for. You're

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00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: getting spit out of it, right, Like you just said,

429
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 1: you felt alone most of the time. And my question

430
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 1: to you is, what did you learn looking back on

431
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 1: this whole process? I mean, even today, after seeing last

432
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: night's episode and seeing the finale kind of play out,

433
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: what have you learned about yourself? What have you learned

434
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: about this process? Um? To day, I think, but we

435
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: always want to hear what we want to hear, but

436
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 1: you don't have to listen to what people are actually saying.

437
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: And I think in those moments, I was like hanging

438
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: on on all the positive things being was staying I

439
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 1: should have like skin it a little bit more clearly

440
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: that she was truly like investing his time in someone else,

441
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: and I should have let that happen. In that case, Um,

442
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,239
Speaker 1: I definitely learned not to guess hang around as long

443
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: as I did, But I mean I learned. Um, Christina,

444
00:23:53,960 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 1: speaking speaking of learning lessons and moving on with you,

445
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: ever be the next bachelorette? If asked, it's asked to

446
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: be the next bachelor, I would have to probably consider

447
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: when the time comes to it, because again I'm watching

448
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: Bachelor Paradise. It was, um a lot of emotion and

449
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 1: just it's kind of it's hard to see yourself that emotional. Um,

450
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 1: I I don't know. I think when the opportunity puts

451
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: them toselfer with us, I'll consider it them. But from

452
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: now on I have to kind of like learn from

453
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise and move on from that. So but

454
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: bacheloret is man until what is the march? Yeah, no,

455
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 1: there's a new couple woman are coming in. So that's right.

456
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 1: And speaking of that, the closest Christina, what are your

457
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: thoughts and already be the next? Back to um? You

458
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: know coming? Do you know something we don't? Okay? So

459
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: now I don't know our personally, but from the stuff

460
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: I've heard and um, I mean whatever is out there

461
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: on social media. I know I don't believe everything social

462
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: media uh says. But whenever you have the truous conversations

463
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: that prove it's hard not to. Um. Almost seems like

464
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: a lasting decision. But maybe he is ready for love

465
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: and for marriage and that commitment. So I wish him

466
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: the best. Do you think it's just a fallback choice? Um?

467
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: Because honestly, nobody even thought of him in the running,

468
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: So just where did all it come from? Um? It's

469
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: hard not to just think about them. But UM, I

470
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: hope he is a good choice. And I think you're problem.

471
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I haven't thought too

472
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: so much about it. Are you attracted to him? I'm

473
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: not attracted. Sorry. My passion comes from knowing people like

474
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: you can be pretty on the outside and all of that,

475
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: but my attraction really comes from non person and what

476
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: he stands for. So that's a great answer. I mean,

477
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: that is a great answer. And and two people that

478
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: really got to know each other, but obviously not well enough. Christine,

479
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: I do have to hear your thoughts. What about the

480
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: Robbie and Amanda situation. You're sitting in that room with him,

481
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: You were there, you had an up close and personal

482
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: seat to this whole thing. Miss feud is getting wacky.

483
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: What's your thoughts today on it. Okay, So Amanda and Robbie,

484
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: I kind of I was there throughout the whole progression

485
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: of their relationship in Paradise, and rob and I had

486
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: many conversations, and I do think she has a good

487
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: heart and eventually she does want that committed relationships, but

488
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: he just hasn't found the right girl, I guess. And

489
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: Amanda sweet in her own way, and she wants that too.

490
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: It's just, um, I don't think Robbie should have called

491
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: Amanda his girlfriend and gone to Colorado and those pictures

492
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 1: to be out. Um. There's always room for interpretation when

493
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: it comes to pictures. But whenever you're that close to

494
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: another female and you have a girlfriend, that's just not acceptable.

495
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter whether you're making out or being that

496
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: close to another female. When you have a girlfriend, that's no,

497
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: that's not for me exactly. I guess it's kind of

498
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: crazy because that's the real world. But yet you had

499
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: the same thing that happened to you in Paradise, and

500
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine how difficult that is, um. And

501
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: then to come out and have to talk about it

502
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: all the time people like Ashley and I I'm sorry

503
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: that you have to do that, but we like hearing

504
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: from you, so thank you for coming on to almost

505
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: famous podcast and talking to us about this crazy world

506
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: that we all kind of live in. Well, thank you

507
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: guys for having me. And I'm kind of trying to

508
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: answer the question to the best of my ability, but

509
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: it's just still so fresh, kind of both reunion and all. So,

510
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: but yeah, you're a special and Christina, thank you so much.

511
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: Thank you guys. Okay, it like we take it so serious,

512
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: but it's hard not to take take things serious. And

513
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: you talk to somebody like that because they have such

514
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: a big heart and you can tell that she really

515
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: invested herself into this. And the whole time I'm sitting

516
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 1: here listening to her and I'm just like, my, you

517
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: just gotta love that girl. She she cares so much.

518
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: You can tell you guys, let's create a hashtag Ben

519
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: and Christina. That'll be oh my gosh. But you guys,

520
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: I think Ben might like Christina. Let's couple them up,

521
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: them up, you know, I think Christy. I mean, honestly,

522
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: what isn't he like about it? Like, from any perspective,

523
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: I sit here and I watch her and she's obviously

524
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: beautiful and I listened to her and she cares and so, yeah,

525
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: you know what, I think she's amazing. I don't know

526
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: from I don't I've never met her in person, but

527
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: we can start the aztec if you like. Um. But

528
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm just for bed kind, A giant step for bed kind.

529
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: You're ridiculous, all right. Actually you have something to talk

530
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: about and it's not Christina and I, so please move on.

531
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he's so flustered that he can't even

532
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: transition into the Zola ad like he usually does. So

533
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: I will let him have his blushing moments and I

534
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: will tell you all about Zola, which is something that

535
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: Derek and Taylor should totally try, being that they are

536
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: now an engaged couple. Congrats to them. Zola is a

537
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: wedding registry that will do anything for love. Couples can

538
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: register for brands that they want on an easy to

539
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: use platform with the ability to personalize everything with notes

540
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: and photos. It's a registry that is personalized to them.

541
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: Zola is a one stop registry. You can get sheets,

542
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: a wine subscription, or honeymoon funds. Zola works directly with

543
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty plus brands, so the happy couple can

544
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: find whatever they want all in one place. They have

545
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: brands from Kitchen Aid, Soul Cycle, Ralph Lauren, and more.

546
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: Some of the benefits for these couples are that they

547
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: can get all these gifts shipped to them now or later,

548
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: or they can exchange them. Multiple guests can contribute to

549
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: bigger ticket gifts like the honeymoon stuff or maybe like

550
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: even a mattress or a bed or furniture. And you

551
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: can explore a list of your gifts and senders to

552
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: make thank you cards so much easier than they would

553
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: be traditionally. So you have to register at zola dot

554
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: com slash almost famous to receive fifty dollars when you

555
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: register and use Zola. So go head over to zola

556
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: dot com slash almost famous and get started. Your lovers.

557
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: You know, there's one thing as I'm reading through um

558
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: our Zola um spot, and there's one thing that always

559
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: stands out to me that makes me want to purchase

560
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: Dola just for the heck of it, Because I hate

561
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: thank you notes. I love thinking people. I mean, I

562
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: guess I don't love thinking people. When they do something

563
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: nice easy to thank them, but thank you notes are

564
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: my worst enemy, their tedious, their time consuming. My hand

565
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: hurt after writing them. So Zola offers an easier way

566
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 1: to thank you notes. I'm in let's do it so funny.

567
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: My mom still like it's Christmas time, So write out

568
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: a list of people I need to send thank you

569
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: notes too. When does that stop? Dirty? It's terrible? Why

570
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: can't you just text them? Um? Actually, you got me

571
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: all fluctored and I didn't know how to react. I

572
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: apologize for being off my eight game there, but you

573
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: you just say things sometimes that makes me giggle. So um,

574
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta keep moving forward. Here. We have

575
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: a really great episode for you with some really special

576
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: guests today, and one of them is one of the

577
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: most controversial characters in Paradise, one that I have a

578
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: lot of tough questions for. Um. I don't dislike this man,

579
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: but I dislike some of the comments he makes. Daniel

580
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: in the Canadian you're out there. We got some tough

581
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: questions throughout you. Are you ready? I am ready? Yeah?

582
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: How's it going? Oh my goodness, Daniel. Daniel, you are

583
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: on my other podcast recently talking about your favorite topic sex.

584
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: Um um are you talking about on the show? Yeah? Um,

585
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: I think but you as you know, we've both been

586
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: on some TV shows. Um, kind of like with Dan

587
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: and his dog. That's kind of editing. Um. I don't

588
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: really talk about my at all really, I mean maybe

589
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: a minute a day, you know sort of thing. Um,

590
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: but that means said, uh, you know, sex is a

591
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: big thing in life, and I think a lot of

592
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: people shy away from minute. Um, sex is great, why

593
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: not talk about it. I'm pretty open about it. I'm

594
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: a sexual person. But uh, yeah, I know when I

595
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: was when I was watching this season, and uh I

596
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: saw something like the parts of me, I'm just like,

597
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: oh god, they should like bring the ship like using

598
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: an upright. You know. It's funny how like I've always

599
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, I talked about my dad once in a while,

600
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: and I've never out of any shows I've been on,

601
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: never have have they ever brought up me talking with

602
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: my dad being in a wheelchair and uh, you know

603
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: what that's bought on for me and my family and

604
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: how you know, I've looked atter. Never ever have they

605
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: edit aired that. You know, it just goes back to editing,

606
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: which I'm okay with. I don't care, I know I

607
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: know how that how they you know, do shows and whatnot,

608
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: and I know how they want to portray me. That's

609
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: why I kind of play it up. But uh yeah,

610
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: I know I don't really care about you know, that

611
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: sort of thing. Speaking of the same with their crying,

612
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: they kind of played up as well, Like, you know,

613
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: it's not like your crying twenty four hours a day

614
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: sort of thing. It's kind of you know, the editing

615
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: sort of thing, right. I don't know, you were there

616
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: in Paradise last year. I cried pretty much seven last

617
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, I don't know, I've I've seen it

618
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: once maybe, But was the awkwardness last night because of editing?

619
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: Like on the couch? Yeah? Um yeah, So when I

620
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: want to, I had a feature percent chance. I thought

621
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: about figure percent chance. Who's gonna bring it up? And

622
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: I told her before and I'm like, yeah, you can,

623
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 1: you can bring it. You can't say that you could,

624
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: you know, say what you know, do what you do,

625
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: like you could do whatever you want. I really don't care,

626
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: but you know it's gonna I mean, it depends on

627
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: how they added it. You know. It's really kind of

628
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: up to them. But I really don't care. You know,

629
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: we talked the long story short if you're on the

630
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: long story, No, no, no, we want the long story. Okay, yeah,

631
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: let's go because I got time. Okay, we do the

632
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: moment you met to the moment you started coupling up

633
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: with her in Paradise. Okay. So we met last year

634
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: at Vine's birthday party. It was like last October. We

635
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: met for the day or the night, and she said, then,

636
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: it's funny, she said that we hooked up. The only

637
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: thing we've ever done is kissed. We've done nothing else

638
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: but kiss um, so that's one thing. Um. So, yeah,

639
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: we met last year. We had we had a good time,

640
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: and uh we stayed in contact a little bit at

641
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: the beginning or a bunch of the beginning, but then

642
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: you know how, like anything, kind of things fade off

643
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: because you know, she lives in New York and love

644
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: in Vankpuver, so you know, it's kind of not she

645
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: was dating people, dating people, but it wasn't like like

646
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: we're anything, you know, just we're just kind of friends.

647
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: And we stayed in touch. And then as we Paradise

648
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: came up for we're like, okay, well, you know, I

649
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: figured let's get back in touch. Because as a possibility

650
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: we might, you know, running to each other on Paradise,

651
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: and so we talked more and we're gonna to know

652
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: each other more, and we skiped a couple of times

653
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: and everything was cool, and yeah, I like her and

654
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: she's an awesome girl. She's a smart girl, she has

655
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: a big heart, and uh so we got along. And

656
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: then the second time I saw her was that Paradise,

657
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: and so I went there hoping that she was gonna

658
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: be there, and she was and I had a good

659
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: time with her. You know, I could have when I

660
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: got there, I had the rose I could have given

661
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: to anyone. I could have give to any girl, but

662
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: you know, I liked the lacing the most, and so

663
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: I gave it to her, and then she gave me

664
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: her rose, and again it was funny, like I remember

665
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: when the girls had the rose power that the second

666
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: time around, I think Jazz And was like flirting with me.

667
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you doing? A like I think

668
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: I just got back from like the wrestling dates, and

669
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: I was just like, don't you know, I'm kind of

670
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: like with Lacey and like, so what I'm saying is

671
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: like I think I'm pretty sure because I got a

672
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: roads from me someone else. I'm not trying to be cocky,

673
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: but like, I don't think it would have been impossible.

674
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: But so anyways, Um, then, so I was there for

675
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: five days, as you know, like things are short, So

676
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: I was only there for five days, and yeah, my

677
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: feelings were for pretty good. But I knew I had

678
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: a feeling that, yeah, she liked me more. You know,

679
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: everyone kind knew that she liked me a lot. She

680
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: was waiting for me and whatnot. Um, and so yeah,

681
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: we went to the Fantasist Street or Christals like going

682
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: over the Finances Street. I'm like, yeah, of course, I mean,

683
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: who doesn't want to go to a nice air conditioning

684
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: dollar room, you know that spending extra a couple of

685
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: days in Paradise. And also because I was only there

686
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 1: for a fourth had only been there for four days,

687
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: so I wanted to spend more time with Lacey and uh,

688
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: I get to hang out and whatnot. So um, yeah,

689
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: we had there's no sex, so I mean that's I

690
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: don't know if there's some rumors that we had sex,

691
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: but no sex. We we have a talk and whatnot.

692
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: And then as for like the whole like I said this,

693
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: and then when the cameras are off. I said that, Well,

694
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: first off says you guys both know when the cameras

695
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: are honest, like sometimes it's hard, like you know, you

696
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: kind of in the moment and you're kind of getting

697
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: caught up and stuff. And I, you know, when I

698
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: said us phone for like, yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't

699
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: falling in love. I never ever said those words both

700
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: falling for us. The end, I started to like her

701
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: a lot um and she's but I don't even know

702
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: when she said she I love you. She never said

703
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: that into my faith. She said that off camera. So

704
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 1: when I was watching this past this season she said,

705
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I didn't know that.

706
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: I knew she liked him lot, but I didn't never

707
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: knew she was loved me. So that was that was

708
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: all new to me. And then we um then when

709
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: the cameras went away, and you know, the next morning,

710
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm like thinking about it more because we then we

711
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: spent so that that was like it was a Tuesday

712
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: night we we did. We hung out like a space week,

713
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: and then we also spend all Wednesday together and Wednesday night,

714
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, if they we're on like days basically six

715
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: or seven now hanging out and we can know each

716
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: other more and whatnot. And then and then things were

717
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: more realistic, and you know, maybe I should have been

718
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: more relixtis before, but you know, I was getting I

719
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: was all caught up in it, and I was kind

720
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: of said to her, like, listen, you know I live

721
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: in Vancouver, you live in New York, and let's be realistic.

722
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: I still want to see you. And uh, you know,

723
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: I still you know, would be jealous and not be

724
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: happy if you know, you were hooking up some guy.

725
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: And I was like, up some girl, but I was

726
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: hesitant to label us as you know, boyfriend girlfriend. And

727
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: when I joke down, you know, changing the Facebook status things, now,

728
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: that's kind of what it was like, more of a

729
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: joke because I know a lot of people joke all

730
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: that sort of thing on social media, what notot um. Anyway,

731
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: So then after that he was part of the ways

732
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: and we're on good terms. And she went to New

733
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: York now into Vancouver, and I told her how I'm

734
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: coming to do New York to do media for Matchmaker

735
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 1: and Paradise and stuff I saw. I was there first

736
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: six nights, and um, I told her the very first

737
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: night that I was going to hit me and vine

738
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: Hunt an appearance in a nightclub. And I said to her, like, yeah,

739
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: I come along. You could come, but as you know,

740
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: these pariences like I can't be making Hope late and

741
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: I can't be holding hands there. I gotta be like

742
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: chick chatting with the girls. And you know, it's kind

743
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: of like a job in the sense I could be

744
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: friendly and hang out everyone and take pictures and whatnot.

745
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: And so she didn't like that, obviously because she thought

746
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: I was just pushing her side. But again, I can't

747
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: be doing that. You know. It's like I've done a

748
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: lot of these appearances where you show up and you know,

749
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: you you have pictures after pictures, and again, you can't

750
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: have a girl hanging your girlfriend hanging off you. Just

751
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: doesn't work like that. It's um, you know, I don't

752
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: know what. I don't know if that's what happy with

753
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: what happened with Robbie's other night, But anyways, um, and

754
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: then I was again I was She's like, oh, I

755
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: only spent one you only spent one hours with me. Um. Again,

756
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: that's a little bit of exaggeration, maybe a couple of hours,

757
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: but um, I mean Vinie. We never got to see

758
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: and we never got to saw anyone else be sides

759
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: are each other because we were doing from basically in

760
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: the morning tonight. We never had any time to any

761
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: time to sight see, any time to relax. And I

762
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: used the gym a couple times in my condo, but

763
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: I had no time to see anyone else. And uh

764
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: so she obviously wasn't too happy with that. And that's

765
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: kind of when we just sided. Um, you know that

766
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: we're best just being friends. Um. And you know, as

767
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: time went on over the last month or tune, um,

768
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: we kind of realized, like, I think she's an awesome girl.

769
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: I think she's super bright. Um, she a good person,

770
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: good heart and deserves the best. And but I think

771
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: I'm just we're just different people. Um, you know, I'm

772
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: a little more liberal. Um, she's a little more traditional.

773
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: She wants something, you know, the whole you know, husband

774
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: and wife right away, and she wants the kids and

775
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: house wants who are still like, you know, busy, you know,

776
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: living my life and we're just uh, you know, just

777
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: I think we're just different. And so we kind of

778
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: learned that and I you know, like it was good

779
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: to cut it off when we did. Instead of dragging

780
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: it on for um TV Steak. You know, I could have,

781
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, said oh no, you know, I love you,

782
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, the last couple of months and let's you know,

783
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: be together for TV Steak and for media Steak and

784
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: then you know, three or four months down the road

785
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: and it like, you know, a lot of couples do do,

786
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: you know, from the fascination. But you know, I didn't

787
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: want new uh leader on for months and months, which

788
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: I didn't. And I also told her at one point,

789
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: I think I said on the anale, which I did

790
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: as well on a couple of times in person, I like,

791
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: you can you could have came to Vancouver. I told

792
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: you to come. But at that point she was kind

793
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: of over it. But I did ask her to come

794
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: to Vancouver to hang out and spend some time with me.

795
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: But so that's a long story short there. That is

796
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: the long story. Long, long, Well you want a long story.

797
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: So that's I'm glad, I'm glad you. We really don't

798
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: have any more questions for you. You You basically answered everything

799
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: in there. That's what, that's what, that's what it basically was.

800
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what. And they edited how I

801
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: really want and I don't care. I'm cool with that.

802
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: I knew right away from you know, being on the

803
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: back ord how they edit things and what they want

804
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: to show, and the same with Paradise, and so I'm

805
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: kind of cool with that. You know. It's like you

806
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: have to be comfortable with that, and you get me

807
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: confident and not really care, which works all for me. So,

808
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: as a girl who's fallen for a lot of guys

809
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: who haven't exactly caught me, I feel like this is

810
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: a classic story where like the girl has her own

811
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: story and the guy has his own story, and like

812
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: both of them are pretty legit. It's just that the

813
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: entire time they weren't seeing eye to eye, you know

814
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: what I mean. You know that's the thing. I mean.

815
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: I'm not saying she I'm not saying she was wrong

816
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: or I'm right or whatever. We just she was gonna want.

817
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I did not know she was in love

818
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: with me. That was like when I saw my jaw daughter, Like,

819
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: oh my god, I didn't know that, Like when we

820
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: were when we were talking in the in the fantasy Sweetich,

821
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure she just did. Um, I'm falling and

822
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: it's the sort of thing. You know, the cameras there,

823
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: you're just kind of I was kind of nervous. You know.

824
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: It's different when the cameras are they're ready waits for

825
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: you to like talk, and when you're just like when

826
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: you're just like you know, doing your thing, like just

827
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: when you're like playing around. But but yet, you know,

828
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: I got no hard feelings. All. I think she's awesome girl,

829
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: and yeah, that's why I went there. But as I

830
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: as time went on, I just kind of learned that,

831
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: you know, we're just not meant for each other. You know,

832
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to pretend to be so

833
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: when I'm not uns and I'm not gonna leader on

834
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: for months for media stake, you know. Yeah, like some

835
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: people might think I've did the wrong thing, or I

836
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: did leader on or whatever. But I mean you can

837
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: think whatever you want, really, you know, and I get it,

838
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: like the show, uh is tough to live through, and

839
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: it's obviously a sense of situation situation at times, and

840
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: we just heard a lot of the things that you

841
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: felt like you did right in this process. My question is,

842
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: what did you do wrong? We all make mistakes, you know,

843
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: throughout life, and and one of the best things you

844
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: can do is learn from those. So throughout this whole

845
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: process during Bastard and Paradise, what mistake did you make

846
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: and what have you learned more about yourself? And what

847
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: situation to be learned more about yourself? Um, I mean

848
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: as you as both of your well well, where like

849
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: when you're on the show and the camera on, you're

850
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: kind of caught up in this, you know, putting it

851
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 1: on for prousis putting it on for the audience, putting

852
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: it on for everyone. And also I don't want to

853
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: be real to myself, and it's like sometimes it's kind

854
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: of gray area where it's like, I don't know what

855
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, am I saying it for? Who? Am I

856
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: saying it for myself? I try to be real for

857
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: most of the time, and you know, maybe I got

858
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: caught up in like being there. But also the whole

859
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: situation of speaking on Paris, it's like utopia where there's

860
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: no distraction in the sense of there's no one other

861
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: like lazies and have another guy going after her. I

862
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: didn't have to compete for another guy. We weren't having

863
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: to worry about work in the next day or nothing

864
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 1: like that. It was all like when you're a paradise,

865
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: it's easy for everything to be perfect, you know, and

866
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: these for me and lazy there it was easy. So

867
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: then once the cameras went away and once you know,

868
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: it was just me and her, and it was just like, oh, okay,

869
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: well you're leaving tomorrow, leaving to where I'm kind of

870
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: like the whole it was like a shock and I

871
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: was like, okay, well, you know, and it was kind

872
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: of like we had I had a whole day in

873
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 1: a bit to think about. And then and then July

874
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: and as we were talking and forth on guy, you've

875
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: been uh uh Facebook, We're just like, it's just sometimes, Harry,

876
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: so mistake sometimes it's hard. And my mistake would probably

877
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: be you know, as you're well aware, I mean most

878
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: people well aware that I played up for cameras take

879
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: to make people laugh or to get a reaction that

880
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: maybe I gotta like be careful on, you know, for

881
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: girl's emotions. Like, but again I didn't. I don't know,

882
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: I just didn't. I wasn't trying to be malicious in

883
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: any way. Um, you know, I think I was fairly

884
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: I was doing fairly well until I guess the very

885
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: last a little bit where you know, she took it

886
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: the wrong way. But I know I said anything I

887
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: said on the couch. She didn't say this, but the

888
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: initial this I said that story like I saw you,

889
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: you know, you told this way. I saw you that,

890
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, the top and I didn't need it to

891
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: be like that. Yeah. I feel like, um, just on

892
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: my experiences on Paradise Paradise, like on the show, is

893
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: when both storylines come together and you're like, oh, that

894
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: was her side of story and that was his side

895
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: of the story. Yeah, and then when you go on

896
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: the reunion show, you kind of really talked that out

897
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: in the differences between you two. So after you talked

898
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: it out on the reunion show, Um, how was it

899
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: backstage with Lazy? Well, uh yeah, going on that like

900
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: when Dean was just thinking about I remember in Dan

901
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: said that he didn't realize like what some of the

902
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: things that could, like how affected Christina was all the crying,

903
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: Like he didn't realize that he didn't see the interviews.

904
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: He didn't like, I didn't realize again with the stuff

905
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: that Lacey was staying about me either. And uh so,

906
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: like I said, when me and Lazy we had over

907
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: the last like July, we were talking about everything. Means

908
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: I've been saying for rambling on for last twenty minutes,

909
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 1: I've been meaning lazy having conversations on back and forth,

910
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 1: and like she was kept on saying like it wasn't

911
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: only five days long, like because she said that we've

912
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: been talking like the last year. But you know what

913
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: it's like talking over text message where you like, it's

914
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: not intimate, it's not personal. It's just like you know,

915
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: it's just unless you're skyping every day. That's what a

916
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: different story. But so she felt like a bigger bond

917
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: over that last year, while me it was just like

918
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: I only had that five days, Like I was there

919
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: for five days, and it's just it was just hard

920
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,479
Speaker 1: for me to you know, even though I did feel

921
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: a good connection, it wasn't enough. But so when I

922
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: saw her on the count, and then the second time

923
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: I saw her was in New York, and then I

924
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: saw and then I saw the reunion, and so yeah,

925
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: it was a little bit awkward, especially when I walked in.

926
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 1: I felt like I was walking into a freaking lines

927
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: then and I wasn't under some surprised, so you know,

928
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: I was a little bit ready, But I drinking the

929
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: last three hours of a board on my mind, as

930
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: you guys know how a lot of downtime. But um so,

931
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: actually I didn't even get to see her behind afterwards

932
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: because um, we had to talk to the psych and uh,

933
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: we had to grab your stuff and I didn't see you.

934
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: I only saw maybe ten people. I didn't see her

935
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: at all. Sevn't seen her since. Uh uh, I haven't

936
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: seen her since. Um that's on the couch there. Oh,

937
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: that's interesting. You've brought up a topic that I think

938
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: would be great for us to talk about on the podcast.

939
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: Do girls blow up certain things in relationships like we

940
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: texted every day? Or like he told me this, do

941
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: we focus too much on it and make it too

942
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: big of a deal or down or or do guys

943
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: downplay little things like texting every day and when he

944
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: said this or that. I think it goes both ways,

945
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: like like a lot of it, like I think gets

946
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: born in proportion, and especially on TV, like gets I mean,

947
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: he gets born in proportion, and everyone has their opinion,

948
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: you know, for example, you know, I mean, you know,

949
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: obviously I checked my stand top with my DM. You know,

950
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: I got to make sure that keeps it, keep it

951
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: down to zero. So every day check on it. But

952
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, nine percent of people said, like, we're agreeing

953
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: with me yesterday. But then you also have people reading

954
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: underneath my pictures and somewhere in agreeing. Everyone's gonna have

955
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: a different opinion. And depends on how I medited. It's

956
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: what they show. It depends on you know, what age

957
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: you are. It depends if you're a liberal or if

958
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: you're a conservative. Um, you know, it depends, and you

959
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: know what side do you want to leave? You know?

960
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: So I think it's a good question. I think a

961
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: lot of guys that talked to kind of stay like

962
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, some lot of girls make this into a

963
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: bigger dealing and it actually is. I don't know if

964
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: it's true or not, But what do you think? Um,

965
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: I think it's just something that I would like to

966
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: explore further. I mean maybe it's just the person who's

967
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: more invested in the relationship normally blows up quote quote details, um,

968
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: and then and then the person that's less invested usually

969
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: downplays little things like that. I think that's true as well.

970
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: And that's that was another issue with being on the show,

971
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: that that was my bloody bacherette and then a paradise

972
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: and the match makerfusing them back on parady. So I

973
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: kind of like at that point, I was kind of learning,

974
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: like how TV is, and I know what it's all about,

975
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: and I know the producers like, and I know gets

976
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: reactions from the fans. It's kind of like while he

977
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: was still new to like. So she took it maybe

978
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: more serious than I did. You know, all right, Well,

979
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: it seems it seems like you really were able to

980
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: describe your side of the story on this podcast. So

981
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: I feel like you feel in a sense of relief

982
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: to get that off your chest after all the hate

983
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: you must have gotten from social media yesterday. Um well

984
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't really look down much. Like I said,

985
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: It's checked on my instergent mostly and you like, I'm

986
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: surprised a lot of people like we're positive. You know,

987
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 1: you do get something negative as well, But I, um, yeah,

988
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean I had the day everyonely don't care. Like, say,

989
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: for example, I posted a clip about me talking with

990
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: Blake about her because it was quite funny. Actually I thought,

991
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: I mean this goes to show you I don't really

992
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: care that much. Um that's yeah. I just I mean

993
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: the end of the day, end of the day. I

994
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: like that fun. I like to make people last. And

995
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: that's why, you know, I keep going back in these

996
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: shows because like keep getting asked, and it's all about fun.

997
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: It's all about TV. You can see how you can

998
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: see how the edit like um para that they kind

999
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: of edit it with the music and background noise. It's

1000
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: kind of like a kind of slapstick satire. And so

1001
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: that's why you know, it kind of works well for

1002
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: me because I can play into it. But you can't.

1003
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: You can't take it too serious. I mean, you know,

1004
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: there obviously are some real relationships that formed from it,

1005
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: and that's great, and I mean you've gotta be super

1006
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: happy for the people that you know, do you get

1007
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: these relationships out of them. But at the same time,

1008
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: you know, it's the reality TV show. You got have

1009
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: fun with their right well, I mean, and that's and

1010
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: that's the point I tried to bring up earlier is

1011
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: it can be all fun and games and it and

1012
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: it can be lighthearted and it can be funny, and

1013
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: it can be comical at times, but there's real emotions

1014
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: at play. And one of the things that that you've

1015
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: learned or that you messed up on is from going

1016
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: out on these shows. I hope, personally as a viewer

1017
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: and as a fan to watch you show um some

1018
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 1: more personal care for emotions, because I think that does

1019
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: that becomes a huge part of this experience for people.

1020
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: And and it sounds like as as this gone, as

1021
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: the seasons that you've been a part of have gone on,

1022
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: you're starting to see that this can be real. This

1023
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1024
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1060
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Speaker 1: I mean, I got to spend the week with you

1061
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: in Tahoe and and it is true, actually does ice

1062
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: her face to keep the swelling down. I never knew

1063
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: that was a thing. But somebody else that we know

1064
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: needs to have a little life because they got burned

1065
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: last night on social media, and that's Robbie. Robbie got

1066
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: burned by Amanda and Astley. I need to hear your

1067
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: take on this whole situation. I don't know what's happening.

1068
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: Do you think it's true. If it is true, where

1069
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: what the heck is Robbie doing? And then if it's

1070
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: not true, why is Amanda calling him out on social media?

1071
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: I need to hear your thoughts because this is getting

1072
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: weird and we have we get to watch it all

1073
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: kind of play out right now. Oh my gosh, I'm

1074
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: obsessed with Amanda. You should have seen our our messages

1075
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: this morning. We didn't use words, We just use gifts

1076
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: to communicate. Um. She rocked her Taylor swift today. She

1077
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: was a Taylor swift. He last night on Instagram posted

1078
00:54:55,239 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: on his story a little rant about how Amanda Um

1079
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: plays the victim. He made it seem like she puts

1080
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: herself out there. She you know, somebody, not Amanda by name,

1081
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: but somebody puts herself out there as this sweet, completely

1082
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: innocent person. But in real life, she has to take um.

1083
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: She has to admit that she's part of the problems

1084
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: in this relationship, and not just this one, but her

1085
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: past Bachelor esque relationships. Robbie was basically staying on his

1086
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: inst story that why was Amanda sitting there next to

1087
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: him listening to the twins preach false allegations of something

1088
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: that may have happened on a business trip in Colorado

1089
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: when Amanda supposedly knew that that was false news, fake news, okay,

1090
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: And now, in retaliation, this morning, Amanda posted for the

1091
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 1: world to see the Instagram message that she got from

1092
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: a random fan in Colorado of Robbie being snuggly with

1093
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: a strange female. This is getting heated um in either way.

1094
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: You know, we don't know the ins anounced this. It's

1095
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: inappropriate to post this stuff for the public to see.

1096
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I get what Robbie's trying to do right.

1097
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: He feels he needs to defend himself. He feels like

1098
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: he's getting attacked and that he needs to sign of

1099
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: the story to be told right. Well, we got his

1100
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: moment for that on the reunion. That was why that

1101
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: whole thing was set up. Tell the world about it then,

1102
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: But to post it on social media now is immature?

1103
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: And which exact But which side do you think is immature? Both?

1104
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: I think both are immature. I think I don't think

1105
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: there's any place um for this kind of action. It's

1106
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: in our world, right, I mean that they've dated each other,

1107
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: there's obviously hard feelings. Breakups suck, They're terrible no matter

1108
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: who you are, what your relationship status is. When you

1109
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: leave a relationship, it is hard and there are hard there,

1110
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: there's tough feelings that are involved. Don't spread it, you know,

1111
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: just just handle it amongst your friends and your family

1112
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: and the people you can fight in. But here's the

1113
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: weirdest part to me, actually, and I gotta ask you

1114
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: about this. So I'm reading Robbie's message and I don't

1115
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: know Robbie. I don't honestly, he's he's probably a fine,

1116
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: fine human being, But it's so weird to me. It's

1117
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: so weird to me how these people and it's happened

1118
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks with multiple people in fact

1119
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: the nation. They compliment themselves, I am a good person,

1120
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: I am a person I love well, I invest myself

1121
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: in the relationships. Like these kind of things are just

1122
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: odd to me. Give yourself compliments, but others they're not

1123
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: getting compliments. There's day reason why they're not giving you compliments.

1124
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: That's hysterical and something I didn't even think well reading

1125
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: that and things to bring it to my attention, because

1126
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: that is absolutely ridiculous. I guess I I guess their

1127
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: explanation to why they're making this so public is because

1128
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: their relationships start it on TV and was a public thing.

1129
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: Hence why everybody releases a statement when they end up

1130
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: breaking up with a person that they ended up with

1131
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: on the Bats Are the bats are right? Right? So

1132
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: maybe that's why they're they're feuding in public. Yeah, I

1133
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: mean it's fine. No, Actually, this is just something that's

1134
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: happened over the last couple of weeks with people that

1135
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: have been on back from Paradise. They seem to defend

1136
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: themselves like there's there's there's obvious reaction to negative criticism.

1137
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: If it's blaming editing, which you know I have been

1138
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: able to discussed. They edit some things. They edit they

1139
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: don't dud to others, So they blame editing, or they

1140
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: blame um the moment. Are they blame being sucked up

1141
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: in the situation? Are they blame having too big of

1142
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: a heart and they care too much? Like this kind

1143
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: of stuff needs to stop. Own up to your mistakes. No,

1144
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: just like I asked Daniel there being able to stay

1145
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: back you got. You heard how uncomfortable he got when

1146
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: I said, hey, what what did you do wrong? He

1147
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: couldn't hardly answer, Like, we all make mistakes, We're not perfect,

1148
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: and the best thing we can do in these experiences

1149
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: learn from him. And if we're not learning from him,

1150
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: what's the point because we gotta people walk out of

1151
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: this with a relationship. You've got a hand it to

1152
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: Dean four admitting yesterday that he has made mistakes, and

1153
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: for the girls not to blame each other regarding like

1154
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: all their anger and hostility in the situation, but to

1155
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: blame him, that's nice. I want to know what you

1156
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: guys think of these feuds and social media it's so embarrassing.

1157
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: It's literally, to me, an older person, it makes me cringe.

1158
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: Why why are people making this so public? Well, it

1159
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: really it started with Robbie. If Robbie should have admitted

1160
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: that he if he didn't want this to happen, he

1161
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: probably should admitted on the show last night that he

1162
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: did something wrong in Colorado, because I actually think that

1163
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: he really did, and now he's trying to hide it

1164
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: and he's trying to see that the twins are lying,

1165
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: and I don't think the twins are lying. Well, what

1166
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: about Ben? Ben? What do you think about the twins

1167
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: jumping in? That was weird to me too. I love

1168
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: the twins, but like, wait a minute, isn't it Amanda

1169
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: and Robbie. I would say, it's not their battle, and

1170
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: I get that they're good friends and I get to

1171
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: tail of Amanda. Um, but I would think that in

1172
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: that situation it is respectful for for anybody else not

1173
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: And let's not just call the twins here, right, It's

1174
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: it's not anybody's business really on social media either. It's

1175
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: this is Robbie and Amanda's relationship to work through, work

1176
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: on and and and bring up tough situations that They're adults.

1177
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: They can do that. And so I don't like the

1178
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: other people kind of called made the brought up the

1179
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: situation because maybe Robbie and Amanda weren't ready to talk

1180
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: about it. You know. That's that's kind of the part

1181
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: that that I didn't love um. But yeah, again, I mean,

1182
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: what do we think about the feuds? Like, I don't

1183
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: think this should be going on in the public. I

1184
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: don't think we should be watching. But what do I

1185
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: find myself doing updating my Twitter to check Amanda and

1186
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: Robbie Twitter every five minutes to see if anything else

1187
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: got posted? Because started is this good stuff? Okay? Whether

1188
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: or not you guys are you know, fans of it

1189
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: being in public? Can we please give Amanda props for

1190
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: the caption of her tweet today the picture there was

1191
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: a picture of him in Colorado with the girl, and

1192
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: then the caption said, look what you made me do?

1193
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: It was amazing that it was funny. But she did

1194
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: some videos last night that then she deleted that I

1195
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: thought were weird. It's just too much and these people

1196
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: don't have a filter, Like it's almost like they need

1197
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: a mommy to say, oh, read it before you post it.

1198
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: You crazy people. Oh my gosh, but I just can't

1199
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Speaker 1: talk because I've been so guilty of this in the past,

1200
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: Like I have been so guilty of not being able

1201
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: to shut up. No, but I know this, like, and

1202
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: I will admit that I like am so I'm so

1203
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: guilty of feeding into the drama on social and being like, no,

1204
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: my side of the story needs to be heard, Like

1205
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: I've said so many things, and now, like in recent past,

1206
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: I've just been quiet, And I'm like, I guess this

1207
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: is how you win by being quiet? Well, you know,

1208
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: I think there's that there's a great Bible verse that

1209
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: talks about being kind to your enemies, um is the

1210
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: most beneficial practice to kind of win that battle. And

1211
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: I think it's true. Is if you take the higher

1212
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Speaker 1: road and you be if you're kind, you forgive um,

1213
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: then then your enemies have no no ground to stand

1214
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: on against you. And unfortunately now and I don't think

1215
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: this is ending soon. And I told you both that earlier.

1216
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: This feud is not ending soon because they're their battle

1217
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: is it seems like it's just beginning, right. There has

1218
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: to be closure to it, and and I don't see

1219
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: either of them asking for closure anytime soon, and I

1220
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,880
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1221
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,600
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1222
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Speaker 1: life of the party. Um, I actually have a mutual

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Speaker 1: friend that has worked for you, uh in Chicago. Um. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's dangerous. It's dangerous that you have that

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Speaker 1: much personal information on me. Now I do, And so

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Speaker 1: watch out to these questions. But Iggy, we got to know.

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Speaker 1: We ask everybody that comes into this segment of who

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Speaker 1: the heck are you? Like? Who are you? Man? Explain yourself?

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Speaker 1: What's how do people know you? And and let's end

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Speaker 1: it with my favorite question today, what is the business

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Speaker 1: lesson or what's the business mistake you've made? Uh? In

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Speaker 1: your time on the Bachelor franchise? Sure? Um? So, Iggy

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Speaker 1: Rodriguez born and raised in so In California, Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: specifically living in Chicago. Um was on The bachelorreat season,

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Speaker 1: the most recent one with Rachel and the most recent

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Speaker 1: season of Bachelor in Paradise as well. Um, it's been

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Speaker 1: it's been a blast, man. You know, I think that

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Speaker 1: the life of the party thing doesn't necessarily come through.

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Speaker 1: It certainly didn't come through during during Rachel's season. I

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Speaker 1: think I was sort of typecasts the dude that talked

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Speaker 1: about other dudes, which is a really unfortunate situation. Um.

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Speaker 1: But as you guys will know, I think there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of there are a lot of stories that

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Speaker 1: can be created out of the content, um, that you

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Speaker 1: produced during the course of your time on the show.

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Speaker 1: And and that was sort of the role that I've played.

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Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of played role with Dad

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Speaker 1: in the house. Um, I'm thirty, but I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm like thirty going on forty a little bit in

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Speaker 1: terms of some of the maturity stuff. UM. And I've

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Speaker 1: run my own business, as you mentioned, I think you had,

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Speaker 1: you know, a friend of yours worked for me. Um.

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Speaker 1: And I've done a whole lot of stuff in thirty years,

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Speaker 1: and I just kind of ended up taking on the

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Speaker 1: I guess the moderator of the house role, and that

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Speaker 1: sort of turned into this this negative perception, which really

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Speaker 1: but on the other side, I do think I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: cool and I made a lot of really good friends

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Speaker 1: and the results of of being on the show on

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Speaker 1: on both shows, and you know, I think I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to especially going on Paradise. I was just trying to

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Speaker 1: show that, like that more authentic, loose and kind of

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Speaker 1: funny side of myself. Um okay, I wanted I need

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Speaker 1: to know, like, were you annoyed it yourself while watching

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Speaker 1: Rachel's season? Were so annoying? Um? Yeah, you know they were.

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Speaker 1: It was tough to watch. Um. You know. I even

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Speaker 1: I contacted the producers and I was like, guys, like,

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Speaker 1: this is this is hard for me to see, you know,

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Speaker 1: Like like I remember watching it and being like getting

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Speaker 1: text mesk just from my friends that know me really well,

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Speaker 1: and they were like, hey, man, that's not a great look.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, dude, I know, like I'm watching

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Speaker 1: it with you. I know it's not a great look.

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Speaker 1: Um yeah it's fun. Um, you know, it wasn't. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't the most fun watching that play back. But you

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Speaker 1: learned so much about yourself and the process and and

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Speaker 1: about you know, kind of interacting with other people throughout

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Speaker 1: the court to this thing. And I wouldn't take it back,

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Speaker 1: you know what. I do think a little differently, yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure, But I wouldn't take the experience back. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's refreshing. I gotta tell you this, because Ash and

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Speaker 1: I just got done with a with a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a conversation about how very few people in general light,

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Speaker 1: not just as franchisement life, can admit their mistakes and

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Speaker 1: admit when they've messed up, and admit they can learn

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Speaker 1: something from it and walk away and say, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: didn't do that perfectly, but I'd do it again because

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Speaker 1: I learned something. And it goes back to my first question,

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Speaker 1: you what is the biggest mistake, What is the biggest

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Speaker 1: thing you've learned along this journey that you've been a

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Speaker 1: part of. Yeah, I mean again, you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: being typecast is the person that has conversations about other people.

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Speaker 1: I think that was that first and foremost right is

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Speaker 1: sort of kind of staying in your lane, so to speak,

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Speaker 1: and really focusing on you and the relationship with the

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Speaker 1: person you're speaking with and candidly. That can be really

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Speaker 1: difficult at times, because there are moments during my conversations

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Speaker 1: with Rachel where she was straight up, you know, set,

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Speaker 1: and she sat down and looked at me, looked at

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Speaker 1: me the eye and said, I really trust you, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're someone and that is really like in the house,

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Speaker 1: I want your opinion about this person. The difficulty there

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Speaker 1: is that most people don't see that interaction, right. The

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Speaker 1: only see the communication where I say something and it

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Speaker 1: seems like, you know, I was doing it either for

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Speaker 1: you know, disingenuous reasons or to kind of put myself

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Speaker 1: ahead and bring somebody down. Um. So trying to clear

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Speaker 1: that up has been really difficult because obviously people see

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Speaker 1: what they see and then that interpretation of that content

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Speaker 1: stays with you forever and ever. Um. But if I

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Speaker 1: had to do that again, I mean certainly would be

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Speaker 1: much more steadfast and kind of staying in in my

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Speaker 1: own way and so to speak, and really focusing on

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Speaker 1: our own progression. And that's certainly has kind of bled

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Speaker 1: into probably quote unquote real life, right is the way

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Speaker 1: that you approach people, the way that you have conversations about,

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Speaker 1: you know, other individuals that you might be friends with

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Speaker 1: or not friends with, and really respecting everyone's space, um,

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Speaker 1: is something that was certainly the thing that came that

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Speaker 1: really really you know sort of I was focusing on

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Speaker 1: after that that The difficulty of watching its play back

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Speaker 1: was just you know, being being conscious of the things

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Speaker 1: that you say about the people that you that you're

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Speaker 1: saying and the people you say them too, is a

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Speaker 1: is a really big deal. You are spot on, man.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you this, I was not expecting to

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Speaker 1: get an answer like that. Um, not because I know

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Speaker 1: you we've never met, but just because it's very rare

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Speaker 1: to have somebody be that vulnerable and honest. So, UM,

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Speaker 1: you know, kudos to you for for taking this experience

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Speaker 1: and understanding that. Yet you might not have worked or

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Speaker 1: you know, walked away with the relationship, but you walked

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Speaker 1: away learning something about yourself and hopefully becoming a better person. Um.

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Speaker 1: That is something that that Ashton and I talked about

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Speaker 1: all the time and we respect that. Um, biggy man.

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Speaker 1: We we appreciate you coming on the podcast. UM, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. We have to go

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Speaker 1: because we are running out of time, but man, keep

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01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: doing you and I look forward to probably watching you

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Speaker 1: on a couple more Bachelor Franchise shows here in the

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Speaker 1: near future. Yeah, we'll see what happens. I appreciate I

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Speaker 1: appreciate a few minutes guys talked about. Yet I'm just

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Speaker 1: like I like you so much more after just hearing

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Speaker 1: you talk here. Look what a TV show can do

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Speaker 1: to someone. That's right, That's right, Thanks, all right, all right,

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Speaker 1: cool later, Ashley. This is the end of our podcast,

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Speaker 1: and it's also the end of our Bachelor and Paradise

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Speaker 1: UH season. But just because Bachelor in Paradise is over

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean we are, right, Ashley. Right, you guys, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be back next week and we're gonna be talking

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Speaker 1: more about love and relationships and of course our Bachelor family,

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Speaker 1: and that will be the start of season three of

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Speaker 1: the Almost Famous Podcasts. I'm really excited to start talking

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Speaker 1: about stuff that maybe is not necessarily what happened yesterday,

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Speaker 1: but what happens in our lives, that's right. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: please all of you listeners out there, email us, tweet uh, Instagram,

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01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 1: message us with ideas and topics to talk about. Ashley

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Speaker 1: and I will be coming back to you next week

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01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: to talk about everything out there in the world. But

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Speaker 1: until then, this has been been, and this has been

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Speaker 1: Ashley on the Almost Famous podcast. We appreciate you keep

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01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 1: your powder dry? What follow the Benn and Ashley I

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Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast on iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever you

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