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Speaker 1: for both of you guys. Thank thank you, thank you

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Speaker 1: later because but now, this is not an overnight thing

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Speaker 1: advanced cassette's right. He's actually right. The Roy's DUSTI is

426
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 1: proviolates the whole thing and all prepared like and at

427
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 1: the time, you know, Carress wanted God so I I got.

428
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 1: I got next album, which was not one of his

429
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 1: best albums, so he got to leave review he got

430
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: three and a half and then you see the second

431
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 1: reviews like seeing that four mix. But but it's like,

432
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 1: who the fucking seeing that? Because back then people that

433
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 1: didn't know thought they was like a fake mob. That's true.

434
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 1: That was that was know like they didn't know, they

435
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: didn't know the people behind it, but theyren't true and

436
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: they hadn't heard enough. That's in the inside of the industry.

437
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: We knew about it. We knew this ship is about

438
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: to change the game, or even in New York per

439
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 1: se because maybe people yeah, we at least that these

440
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 1: things about to shake it up in New York. And

441
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: you know, busses on driving seat crazy like it has

442
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: all New York's energy. So we do it. It comes

443
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: out everybody's like, how to fun you disrespect the god

444
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 1: teaching cameras but TNF and then you'll think it's pussed

445
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 1: the album back, oh to no album. So I'm out

446
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: here holding the B no album to mix. I'm dangling

447
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: for mix no. You know, actually Dan y'all, Dan y'all

448
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: came back and then you'll added that R and B

449
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,719
Speaker 1: ship the closes were cleared that sample Sam and then

450
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 1: you'll used the four mix is the ad campaign if

451
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: your campaign, And then it came out later. But I

452
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: was like early just you know, we couldn't clear the sample.

453
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 1: We us back then, we didn't know that we had

454
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: to clear sample and you know you were penalty. Well well,

455
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, the whole time he was underground doing like

456
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,719
Speaker 1: underground mixtapes, we never thought about clearing sample. So when

457
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: we um and which was you know, I don't want

458
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: to take a shot, but you know, Trashold knew better,

459
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And the fact not nothing

460
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: to take no no shot at, but the fact that

461
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 1: when I thought that he thought we wasn't gonna get caught,

462
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: which is like a good way to think of it.

463
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: But then up you know, Sam Cooking and all these

464
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: people that we were sampling they're gonna find out. So

465
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: then we had to go in and we had to

466
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: do it over. But you're absolutely right there. It was

467
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: a record call stuck on you, and it was it

468
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: was actually dope because we had a record call stuck

469
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: on you instead of stick you, and it was like

470
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: it was like a soft record. And you said that

471
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 1: in the viewew like it was the holy record that

472
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: wasn't good. And I was like, you know what, take

473
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: that ship over, and we take the ship over. So

474
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: it was a report question, OK, no problem all the time,

475
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to know, like bust on driving,

476
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: see why is he like half on the like, well

477
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: to tell you the truth, Buster and Fat Joe. I

478
00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: do not want to say that this is a clearer

479
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: this thing with them. I want to say that they

480
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: were prepared and we had to turn in the album.

481
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: Fat Joe was actually on Channel ten wants to no, no,

482
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: no no. He didn't lay his verse his verse, and

483
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: I forget what happened, and for some reason he never

484
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: laid it. Nabs was on music making let us calm down, um,

485
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 1: and it didn't clear. That's the reason why he made

486
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: it up to me and did firm album and so

487
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying on driving seat bus driving. See, he was

488
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: supposed to be on there. He had knew who Eman

489
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: Thug was. Eman Thug was this real underground only two

490
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: people who knew, not the only two people, but the

491
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: two people those big Emon Thugs fans. Was Mace how

492
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: the fun Dollars become a fan of the most burden Boutervard.

493
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: So it was Mace and Buster. So Buster came in

494
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: and he just spoke on it. He was forced to

495
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: lay a verse. But we just we were so underground

496
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: that we took that we just took was just like yo,

497
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: fuck it and that was that. But that's what you see.

498
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: I was shifted though with your solo career, and like

499
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: everybody that was doubting, seeing then when Nori dropped those

500
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: records and the sampler came out of everybody was like no,

501
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: I was up at the was like I was like,

502
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 1: oh yea six months ago and then no, he had

503
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: that momentum and then you know, you delivered with that album.

504
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: Ye stink. You stank you so much. So now okay,

505
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 1: you guys Um, at some point you leave the it's

506
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: more towards you, elliott Um. The sources, the Bible. It's

507
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: the hip hop bix. What happens for you to start

508
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: thinking that you're gonna leave and you're not. You're not

509
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: just leaving. You're going to the the Mets, if you're

510
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: the Yankees, you're going to the opposite. You're going to

511
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Uh, what is it? The

512
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: Lakers Worth Celtics. Like you're leaving Larry birds as as

513
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: a Celtics and you're going to Magic Johnson and joining

514
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: the Lakers? Like how how did you come up with decision?

515
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: And then how did you execute it? Um? Corrupt had

516
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: a song called five Mics. Uh. So it was like

517
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: the hook was like five mix. They're a kid to

518
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: the store, say Corrupt, hold your cool with Mays and

519
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: like he came off these planes back and five mix.

520
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh, it's gonna be some chickers. It's thinking

521
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: so called five mix. Um. So, when his album came out,

522
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 1: I think it was Corruption or whatever. I didn't like

523
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,479
Speaker 1: the album as much as you know, I'm a fan

524
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: Corrupt though, but the album wasn't it? And I think

525
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: that had that that review and another review. I think

526
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: it was maybe shock or something and the mics I

527
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: had given, they went back and changed the mics and

528
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: didn't tell me. Okay, so usually argue it out with

529
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: zeros and they was the editor at that time doing that.

530
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: But it wasn't his fault day. They may stepped in

531
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: and it was his decision because with them, I don't know,

532
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: maybe they just know it was to be fair. It

533
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: could be because they thought the album was better whatever,

534
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: But I hadn't never had them like go over my

535
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: head and like changed the content because I would, you know,

536
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm real meticulous. I want to sign off on every

537
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: page just like yeah. So I got the issue back

538
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: and they changed everything, and I just called the meeting

539
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: and I was like, you guys don't respect change. Who

540
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: else corrupt? Really was corruption? I was called corruption? And

541
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: you gave him and you gave him two mics. I

542
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: think I gave him like I was gonna give him

543
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 1: two or two and a half in the gave him

544
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: a free like something small, and then like something else

545
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: got knocked down to like are it's like a half

546
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: mike or whatever, Like I'm young, I'm you know, I'm frustrated,

547
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: and I'm like, course you don't respect me, you know,

548
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: because my dream was like to already do it. It

549
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: was just like I felt the weight of like what

550
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: that means, like fun the industry ship. I was just

551
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: being young, How was he? I was on some industry

552
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: The ning is in the barbershop. Noticed it is trash.

553
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: I gotta represent the people like there was no internet

554
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: to now. Motherfuckers will tell your real time and ship

555
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: is trash. There's no hiding it. But back then, if

556
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: I don't go to whistle and say it's trash, we're

557
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: living a lot. It is hot that we want we

558
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: want to see the locks of space suits. We want

559
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: to see that. We want them to put the the

560
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: gene suit on to get get busy. So I carried

561
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: that weight and that Yeah, I just I just quit

562
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: on some like emotion ship of just feeling like I

563
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: wasn't expected. I didn't feel like I was ever fully embraced.

564
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: I did what I had to do. I didn't but

565
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know I was going to double xel. I

566
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: hadn't trip which I had on today. We worked in

567
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: an ego trip book of rapplers. So I jumped myself

568
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: into that and then after doing that put my head

569
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: down and working on that excel holid at me and

570
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, back then it was like

571
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: the fourth for fit, Like there was rap pages that

572
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: was blazed pages. Yeah, it was like they weren't even

573
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: the third, they were maybe the fit for the four.

574
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: And I was remember so then, yeah, I just I

575
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: wanted a chance to show I could be that during Chiefs,

576
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: I could run the table. So that's that was a

577
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: year later, and that's what. But the thing was when

578
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: I took over ex Excel, I felt like my only

579
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: goal was to was to be the best hip hop magazine.

580
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: And back then it was very raw rock competitive. So

581
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: I from jump that my strategy was gonna be. I

582
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: was gonna bully the source. I was gonna just so,

583
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: are you the one who broke? What's that? The freshman class?

584
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: The freshman class that came later? What started with uh

585
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: this year was Sigon Loupe and like all these guys

586
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: that was enough to have their own cover. But I

587
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: was like, let's get them all together, but it was

588
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: it was played off. Remember we did have Source, like

589
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: all those guys like the ideas, if you don't have

590
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: one guy who's strong enough, get all up, get all

591
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: So that was a blueprint of that. That was I

592
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: looked back at the work I did it the source

593
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's an idea I need to flip.

594
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: But then you didn't have a name for that cover

595
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: at the source. No, I credited Juan Thomas. Two years

596
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: later he brought that idea back. He did it with

597
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: Wally and all these rappers that sort of represented like

598
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: the internet blog era. So that's who gave him the

599
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: name freshman. He rebranded a freshman because because that's really

600
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: the main thing that not disrespect no, but right now,

601
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: like you know, that's when you do they waiting for

602
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: the freshman class. Yeah, so my roots in that, my

603
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: rootes are in that. But I did a different way.

604
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: But they went back to that idea and we built

605
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: it and it did adult. It was the dope idea.

606
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: So how did how did you? How do you guys?

607
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: All right, no, no, no, I'm Russian. Let me let

608
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: me let me start here here. Yeah, yeah, I want

609
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: to know where do you think these magazines lived today?

610
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: In this and not damn it's a good one, Like

611
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: do you I know your magazines? It's about your brands.

612
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: You parted into the dot com and doing this stuff,

613
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: Like where do you think this all went like, is

614
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: it is it relevant? It's about having a good brand.

615
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: I think whatever distribution we use when you hear drink chaps,

616
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: do you think that's something we take a wrap raid off?

617
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: It's really about brand, And I think the means of

618
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: distribution don't matter as much, like if you look at

619
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: it now, like even the envy like this end offew

620
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: has to be videotaped. Like back then when I was

621
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: on the stuff, we didn't videotape, and if I did,

622
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: I was the editor. I didn't do all the interviews

623
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: with the big stars. I found a writer that I

624
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: thought would be the best to do those energies. So

625
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: I just think the means of distribution change. The biggest

626
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: thing is about building your brand, building personal brands like

627
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: you know what Brian be got million means will series,

628
00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: you know what wrap right on me? You know what

629
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: your fen you know or you know drink champs, Like

630
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: that's what it's about. And I think that sometimes some

631
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: bagages half struggle with that, right because you don't have

632
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: the tangible anymore of that. But that model change. But

633
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: is that you think that's all the way good, that

634
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: everybody has to be a brand, that that the journalists

635
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: aren't kind of you know, someone you don't really know.

636
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: That's just the integrity of the journalist. I'm just saying

637
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: as a question with Supreme, we don't know who Supreme is.

638
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Speaker 1: That's a clothing brand. I think that's different what you're

639
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Speaker 1: talking about scrutinizing. I think I mean before like, we

640
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Speaker 1: didn't get into this to be famous or you know,

641
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Speaker 1: have faces out there. But I think it's just the

642
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Speaker 1: evolution of the business, you know what I mean. It's

643
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Speaker 1: like a DApp die And if you look to your

644
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Speaker 1: left to your right, there's not too many people from

645
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Speaker 1: Elliott's class we've been it's just ninety two that are

646
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Speaker 1: still around doing it at this level. So they didn't

647
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Speaker 1: build their brand most exactly, they didn't survive the evolution

648
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Speaker 1: of word. But there's people like there's a guy Yo

649
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Speaker 1: who works for DJ Booth. He's doing great articles, Joe,

650
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Speaker 1: He's but but Yow writer your Phillips's Yeah, So they're

651
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Speaker 1: not really building themselves as brands, but they're doing great work.

652
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Speaker 1: So I think that's really what it's about. So you

653
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Speaker 1: can't rest on that lowls anymore of like what a

654
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Speaker 1: magazine bram Man in that sense. You gotta do the work.

655
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Speaker 1: You gotta put the working. Goddamn we got notes for

656
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Speaker 1: these niggers and everything. Man she got no man be going.

657
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Speaker 1: It was I think it's like screw face and so

658
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Speaker 1: you know, ironically, this was the place where we know,

659
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Speaker 1: that's not where we started when we started. We started

660
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Speaker 1: the old crazy hood office. No, that's what I'm saying.

661
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Speaker 1: But when we when we like got um like going,

662
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Speaker 1: this was this was it right side. On the other side,

663
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Speaker 1: on the other side, did y'all come up with the

664
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Speaker 1: Elliot Wilson because you know why, it was a joke.

665
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Speaker 1: It was jerious a joke. There was a labs because

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Speaker 1: I hate him. I'm doing any other shod You gotta one.

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Speaker 1: You gotta do what every one just do one, just

668
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Speaker 1: trash like we need to kill the first first we

669
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Speaker 1: even had to give me that one. Let me just

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Speaker 1: tell yourself that people people, people want Damn y'all definitely

671
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Speaker 1: did give me the bigger shot, all right. People definitely

672
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Speaker 1: want to tell y'all. Um, the older that we get

673
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Speaker 1: in this game, the more people want to kick us out.

674
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: And I want to change that in the hip hop.

675
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: I wanna you know, in every other genre of music.

676
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: The more you're in it, the more season you are,

677
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Speaker 1: the more that they pick you up. Our coaches the

678
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Speaker 1: only one you know. They don't even have a washed

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Speaker 1: up word in um rock and roll. They don't have

680
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Speaker 1: a word for wash washed. They don't even happen. You know,

681
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Speaker 1: we're the only niggas that use the word washed up.

682
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Speaker 1: And it's over for them. Like you know what I'm

683
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Speaker 1: saying that you'll say right now, he get locked up.

684
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Speaker 1: It's over. It's just we all. We're the only culture.

685
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Speaker 1: And I want to change that. And I want to

686
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Speaker 1: tell y'all whyle y'all live while y'are breathing that what

687
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: y'all doing for the culture. I've been a couple of

688
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: your tactics. I follow y'all, and you know why I

689
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Speaker 1: had you because I know, I know I'm not a journalist,

690
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Speaker 1: so but I did. I try to have to follow

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Speaker 1: what y'all doing. Salut and a worse as we keep

692
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Speaker 1: doing it, don't we'll try again. We're trying to. Actually

693
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Speaker 1: I'm not doing that again. Actually, better stop lying people.

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Speaker 1: I get it to kill. So what's what's the article

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Speaker 1: you did? Go? Because I imagine that first we love

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Speaker 1: hip hop. You want to be a part of it,

697
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Speaker 1: and then you be a part of it. But what's

698
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Speaker 1: that one interview of one incident that you did that

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Speaker 1: She was like, what's your most proudest moment? Basically, damn

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Speaker 1: in the journalist and like magazine, game whatever. Overall, oh Man,

701
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Speaker 1: one of your most proudest at least I think about that,

702
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Speaker 1: And I feel like I haven't done it yet because

703
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Speaker 1: I'm just like to celebrate yesterday's touchdowns. But I feel

704
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Speaker 1: like one of the proudest moments is I think what

705
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Speaker 1: we did together was. I was really proud of the

706
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: first interview we did together on rap right over the

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Speaker 1: Bible with Michael Jordan's because that was like first, like

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Speaker 1: that crazy let me take let me speak about because

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened. Something. You know, these brothers over there,

710
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Speaker 1: you might forget. You might forget hanging with one of

711
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Speaker 1: these brothers one of these days, I might forget that.

712
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Speaker 1: I'm never going to forget seeing Michael Jordan's. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: left Bractic City. I see Michael Jordan. I'm gonna remember.

714
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Speaker 1: So when they answered me, I was like, damn, they

715
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Speaker 1: sucked up. But for two minutes. I was like, I

716
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Speaker 1: fucked up because I was like, damn, there's no pictures

717
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: of that ship. And then I got the best fans

718
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Speaker 1: in the world. They fucking showed me this jay Z

719
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Speaker 1: picture because that was the truth, like he really came

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Speaker 1: and just fund with Jay and ran. It was a

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Speaker 1: Marian carrier. I think it was a Christmas party. Christmas party,

722
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: and the crazy ship was We're all getting money, so

723
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to pay for fourteen other tickets. They're like no,

724
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to pay for bottles. They're like no, it

725
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: was all free. So you know, I wanted to stay

726
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Speaker 1: at the party. They're getting free Christis and christ I

727
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: wasn't racist and ship so remember once they got racist,

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Speaker 1: you don't say a whole switch to Ace. We're going

729
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: going with Ace. But um so yeah, so that that

730
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Speaker 1: but that was like our first viral moment that you

731
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Speaker 1: hadn't launched the podcast, right, I hadn't launt that And

732
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Speaker 1: then tax Stone when when when when Jay hit me

733
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Speaker 1: and I was like this podcast ship is He had

734
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Speaker 1: been telling me about podcast years years And when he

735
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: said that, I said, and when that happened? And I

736
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Speaker 1: remember my publicist said, um, because I was Nikia Hicks

737
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: at this time. After that ship came out, she said,

738
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Speaker 1: there's no other interview in the world that we can

739
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: do after this that they're not going to ask you

740
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: about Michael Jordan's So she said you can. You can

741
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: either continue to do your press one or take two

742
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: weeks off and that ship. I said, I'm taking two weeks.

743
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: So it was so it was that you got Michael

744
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: Jordan to respect listen for two minutes. I was sweating

745
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: like I never sweating before because I was like, damn,

746
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan just called me a liar. You gotta what said?

747
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: He said? It's three things he said. He said, one,

748
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan loves all music, which means he hates ship,

749
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: which means he don't like hip hop. Because anything that

750
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Speaker 1: say what I love it read hip hop, gush my teeth,

751
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: just say I love all music. You don't love you

752
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: don't love everybody. Then he said he was never at

753
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: that party. No no, no, he said, no, no, no,

754
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: He said he loves all music. Michael does not know

755
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Speaker 1: who nor he is very low blow. I said, I

756
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: get it, Mike, I might not know who I am,

757
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: right I'm saying. And then he said, Michael Jordan was

758
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: at that party that part right, you don't let the rock,

759
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: I said, And two minutes later my fans was like

760
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: yeah really and I'm told my my whole timeline on

761
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: Twitter was just filled with that ship. And then Jake

762
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Rods picked it up. Yeah, you know, we put

763
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: Jordan on the Summer Grand Scheme and I remember that's

764
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: my first time learning, like learning like to win and

765
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Speaker 1: don't spike the ball. Yeah, I could not spike the ball.

766
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: I was just like, you know what, touchdown, go home.

767
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: Like I never bragged about the ship. I never really

768
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: like rubbed it in this space because I still want

769
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: Jordan's like you real like trying to send you're back person.

770
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: I said, you had a bad night. That night was up.

771
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: It was like I swear to guard. It was like

772
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Speaker 1: somebody saying niggers, like sitting here in the white friends

773
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Speaker 1: like what are your good close white friends that you like?

774
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Speaker 1: What you like? Whoa Jerry? Jerry like you know, was like, man,

775
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: that's how that's how I felt. I'm so sorry. I

776
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Speaker 1: had a moment, had a moment. Okay that that that

777
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Speaker 1: that's when I realized that podcast. You know, they just

778
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Speaker 1: did a survey that podcast is going to be a

779
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: six hundred million dollar bit. You got five. I wanted to,

780
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: but when I thought on the asset, you know what's crazy?

781
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: Eventually I told this the way Kwan two years ago.

782
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: He thought I was crazy. I think I think he

783
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: thinks something I said. Eventually we'll all have podcasts, right,

784
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: and eventually, why drop your ship with iTunes or drop

785
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: your ship just dropping on your goddamn podcast. Just think

786
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: about think about, like bick up to our carrade, Joe Buttons,

787
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: Joe Button has built his I'm just slexic. I'm justlexic.

788
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: Joe is a couple of them. Joe has built his

789
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: YouTube up right so tremendously. Why would you take a

790
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Speaker 1: piece of art and give it to a labor to

791
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: talk to your audience that you already had rights director consumer?

792
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: Just think about it. I'm just thinking about when we

793
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: get wise enough to know that like this, this, this is,

794
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: this is what we worked for. We worked We came

795
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: from hand to hand off the street drug dealer, and

796
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: now we're eventually going back to hand to hand because

797
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 1: essentially we won't need a record label for nothing, right,

798
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: No disrespect to everybody that the higher ups. There's always

799
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Speaker 1: going to be the Kevin lows Is. It's always gonna

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Speaker 1: be the Leo Cohns and the Jimmy ir Beans who

801
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Speaker 1: figured out a way to make it work. But there's

802
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Speaker 1: not always gonna be these guys. Why do you think

803
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Speaker 1: you guys have adapted to media? Like, what is that

804
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Speaker 1: surprisect back in your mind? Actually, I knew he's gonna

805
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: ask me that question. I had no idea. I'm gonna

806
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Speaker 1: be honest. You always have respect for me, of course,

807
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: I've always have respect. Actually, actually I actually went to college.

808
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Speaker 1: It was in jail, but college, and I couldn't feel

809
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: out um for the credits. So I randomly, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I randomly off I had love for journalism.

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Speaker 1: I picked journalism, but I was loving show stays that

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Speaker 1: loved and journalism. But what I knew how to do

813
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: was talk. Journalism told me how to talk because I

814
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Speaker 1: was always a slanguistic journalism, Hey how are you doing? Yes? Okay,

815
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Speaker 1: so what when did the thing? Because we would do

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Speaker 1: practice like you know what I'm saying, like and and

817
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: and that's where. But now the first hip hop podcast,

818
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: I have to give it to Cyper Sound and Peter.

819
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: That's the first hip hop podcast, the first artists rapp

820
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: up artists, where the podcast is who Joe Joe? What glory?

821
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Speaker 1: I see he wouldn't call he wouldn't call it because

822
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: and we're calling the Internet radio, which is actually the

823
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Speaker 1: beginning of the v had that we wait long and

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Speaker 1: it is, Yeah, didn't as we had it too. You're right,

825
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: you're right, yeah, yeah, but I tea was you get

826
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Speaker 1: credit for the first hip hop artist, my first hip

827
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Speaker 1: hop artists. I've believe it's nice to beat Joe Bunn

828
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Speaker 1: definitely if I don't you saw the weekend? No, no,

829
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Speaker 1: I don't Joe Had. I believe you're trying to google

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Speaker 1: drink Joe had the first joey Okay, okay, yeah he

831
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Speaker 1: had it first. Okay, let make but but wait, we

832
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Speaker 1: can't negate that we were doing Serious X and Together,

833
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: which pre dates Drink Chance. It was Drink Chance before

834
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Speaker 1: Drink Channing, four years five years before Drink chats On

835
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: before Serious X. Yeah. Yeah, it was the same ship

836
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Speaker 1: funny drinking. Yeah, we have all that. So so what

837
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Speaker 1: is the what is what is the most like you know,

838
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Speaker 1: three thrilling part about doing media, Like for me, I'm

839
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Speaker 1: a fan first, right, so even right now I'm talking

840
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: to Norrie, I can't tell you all the time I

841
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Speaker 1: had to seeing the post wall like I'm just you

842
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Speaker 1: don't like Boris and like I'm talking to like the superheroes,

843
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: like I look like a superhero like Boulverine or something

844
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: like that. I look at it. So that's not to

845
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: digress a little bit, but I love the fact that

846
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: like I forget, like I think that you think that

847
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: you're not a celebrity. Sometimes because you don't, you get excited,

848
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: Like when I see you talk y'all just on the

849
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: phone now, jay Z, when y'all was fighting, talk, let

850
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: me tell you something, tell you something. You wasn't really

851
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: bad at him noticing something. It's just something that he

852
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: doesn't notice. But you said something to me that day

853
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: that really changed me. You said, the difference between us

854
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: is we're really fans. And that's statement was so true

855
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: to me because I sat back and I said, He's right,

856
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: there's nowhere I could really be a fan of these

857
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: other brothers because I was busy having my own ship.

858
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: So what I had to do was I had to

859
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: turn back to being a fan. I stopped doing shows,

860
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: stopped going to the studio, and I stopped actually I

861
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: started actually taking this ship. I started having notes because

862
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: the thing about it was I didn't take it as

863
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: serious as that, and like we were playing around. We

864
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: from Queen's were supposed to do that. But when you

865
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: said that, you said the differences and you wasn't even

866
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: saying that to me. He was saying it to a

867
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: fan and he was like, the differences were really fans.

868
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know what, that's absolutely true,

869
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: even if we were playing around, and you know, when

870
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: the truth is the truth, I gotta pick it up

871
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: and I gotta eat it rather it's a rock or skittles,

872
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I picked it up

873
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: and I ate it, and I said, the truth don't

874
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: taste bad. I said, you know what, I'm gonna go

875
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: back into being a fan. That's why if you look

876
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: at the NAS interview, that wasn't Noriega at all. That

877
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: was poppy. That was that was actually actually and the

878
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: thing about it not just not because I'll interview people

879
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: who has never done and he have any success like me,

880
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: and I'll treat him the same way. Because to me,

881
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: as you said, we're superheroes ship that we have to

882
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: endure to be into this industry. Like this ship is

883
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: horrible sometimes, but it's also the O G factor of

884
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: why we do mostly O G because genuinely we're fans

885
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: of these people we grew up with or he's here with,

886
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: you know, so that's genuine, more genuine than if we

887
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: had someone newer. Then it's not a genuine conversation, you know.

888
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: I just hate I hate the one word as I

889
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: know someone who's not a fan of Youri. I don't

890
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: want to get to this, I said on Twitter Stephen A.

891
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: Smith dished you when you met him, and you didn't

892
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: explain why, Like what happened when you did? He didn't

893
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: you know what, I definitely worded it wrong. He fanned

894
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: me out. I didn't realize when I was walking up

895
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 1: to him, I was in front of a whole line

896
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: of people that was waiting in New York this notice

897
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: in Kenny Smith party. So so as we were walking through,

898
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 1: he just gave me one of these and he moved

899
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 1: a back. I said, yo, say out, I might have

900
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: been out before you like, come on now, Queen's down,

901
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: And he just gave me one of the fool and

902
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: then went. So I was like, I was like, oh ship,

903
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: you know I got signed, I got but I posted

904
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: the picture. Okay. You know sometimes have you ever met

905
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: somebody he was disappointed? They all the time? Who's that's

906
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: why I stopped meeting niggas. I don't want to ask yo.

907
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: Let me tell you other thing. First off, it took

908
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 1: a home to literally call me. I don't want Superstars numbers.

909
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: I don't want Wayne. Wayne had to grab my phone

910
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: head take it. I was like, because I don't want to.

911
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I just so bad, I'm so mad. I'm

912
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: so bad at getting rejected and I'll just rejected in

913
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: directed myself like it dissed me so so I don't

914
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: want to give you Leo Cohen's number. Yeah, that's how

915
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: I listen. Really, I realized, up listen, just this is

916
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: something I would be honest. I stually let me decided

917
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: Leo calls. Let me tell you what too. Yeah, wasn't

918
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: was because it's like checks. But let tell you why

919
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: I took that person, because leg is really really my guy.

920
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: But I had took time to me I love you,

921
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: I love you, but let me hear this respect I

922
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 1: had took time with my life like three years where

923
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: I didn't speak to no higher ups. I did speak

924
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: to nobody that just was like I just wanted to

925
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: deal with what I was dealing with and I had

926
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: lost complete contact with Leo. So I watched. I watched

927
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: the episode and I asked for his phone on number.

928
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: You know your Elliott, give me the Can you give

929
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: me the why? I said, this is the first of

930
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm not trying. I'm not in competition. I don't want

931
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: to be in competition. I'm actually hitting them like as

932
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: a life coach. Though I'm alright and like you know

933
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like and you when when you took

934
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: it like that, I said, Yo, listen, I thought I

935
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: was bad and battling. I thought I was bad with competitions.

936
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: Oh listen and listen. I wake up in the morning.

937
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: I beat my son to the bathroom just to piss

938
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: on the toilet before him. So if he's sit down

939
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: the toilet, when you look around, you looking around, you

940
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: see that competitive. But when I see how competitive you were,

941
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: I said, damn, Elliott has a problem and really okay.

942
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: But when we came to CVS, no, no, I just

943
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: feel like one of the natural queens. One queens, we

944
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: naturally compete, right, But then two that's also it's in you,

945
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: like you want to win and win like like like

946
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: I see, I noticed when I did your podcast, if

947
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: this is something you taught me, and you kept hitting

948
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: me saying, yo posted, post it posted, and I didn't

949
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: know what what it meant at the time. So when

950
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: I got back later, I said, this motherfucker loved it,

951
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: like you love coming you. But but I do think

952
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: that I'd like to think I've grown, and I think

953
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: it's error. It's not about that like overly competitive, like

954
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: like nobody has. Like the thing about the whole Exxcel

955
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: Source battle was I felt like the source had exactly

956
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: what I wanted, so the only way to get that

957
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: was to get it from them. You know what you're

958
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: doing when I'm doing what your buddon is doing, like

959
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: what beat I does. Everybody really is running their own race.

960
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: And it's like it's not even more about like we're

961
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: all fighting for this one thing. We're all redefineding what

962
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: it means to have a brand of podcast growth, so

963
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: to be raw rock competitive anymore. That stople was played

964
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: out that stock will not work, and I was and

965
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: I was wrong to move that way back then. But

966
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: because like Kendrick man, like listen, listen, I said it before,

967
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: but I know Power one of five ain't owned by

968
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: one of us. But the Breakfast Club is a part

969
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: of our coaches. If you don't, if you don't come

970
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: to see us, and again I want to make it

971
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: that's actually our Drake story is the Kendrick. Even though

972
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: it was Interscope that was reaching out to Kendrick to

973
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 1: we're ready to do it, it was coming from Rolling

974
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: Loud and then that day I think they said, oh

975
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: he flies in a certain time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So

976
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: let me get back to Kendrick. Like the Kendrick, the

977
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: Drake's Um, the Colds, I know you did called Ken

978
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: Drake's the colda. You know, all of you guys that

979
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: are special in your own special way. You guys are

980
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: the jupid of the planet system in the galaxy. It's

981
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: important to come and support your culture. Yeah, Like it

982
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: says a statement. When jay Z does four or four

983
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: or four album and he books one interview and it's

984
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: with Rap Radar, it says a statement. It's a statement.

985
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: With Nos does two interviews and both of those interviews

986
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: happened to be land on Tite, only two interviews for

987
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: the whole fucking thing. It says a statement that hip

988
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: hop is supporting hip hop, So young fellas who are

989
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: the young guns support this because at the end of

990
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: the day, every itself and in some which way form

991
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: of fashion. If it wasn't for people like us, it

992
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: might not be people like you. You know what I'm saying.

993
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: There might not be people like If you're a new

994
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: artist and you're not gonna escape aid, understand it's gonna happen.

995
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 1: If you're lucky, you'll be old. You got the certain

996
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: that he was over you felt off you. Yes, Now,

997
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: like I said on your podcast, you know, um, sometimes

998
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: it's hard to wake up and not be the man

999
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: on Wednesday when you was a man on Monday. But

1000
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: for some of you people, some of you, some of

1001
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: these artists, actually have to go and listen look at

1002
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: that interview, because the thing about it is be humble

1003
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: on your way in, because you will be humble on

1004
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: your way out. This ship will humble you. If it ain't,

1005
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 1: if it ain't me, if it ain't that somebody will

1006
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: go And you know what, I know this no matter

1007
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: how much your gangs. Now, it was there was always

1008
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: one nigger that was more gangster than me. No matter

1009
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: how much pussy I got, there was always one nigger,

1010
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: let's get it made. No matter how much running one,

1011
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: there's always three. Let's looking at me like I'm broke.

1012
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: So motherfuckers us be humble on your way in because

1013
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 1: you gotta be humble on your way out. That's everything

1014
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: an artist. I think that's stunning on you. Why they

1015
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: was they was hot and then they dropped it, and

1016
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: then they tried to come back and was like and

1017
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: then they tried to come back when they had to cycle.

1018
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: That's I can't think we don't do it. It's like,

1019
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta do it. Makes sense. I mean

1020
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: the problem with you get a certain status, right, it's

1021
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: like we say no more than we say yes, and

1022
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: I'd rather than that give you no assent to say no,

1023
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: Like I don't even give you a nose. It's like

1024
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: we're not moving because the thing is also timing to

1025
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: like I'm not ready to move a certain way. So

1026
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: we were blessed to be in a position that we're

1027
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: very selective about. Like you guys, we want to talk

1028
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: to him like right now, pop smoke with that's my

1029
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: favorite new I like his voice. I like his voice.

1030
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: You like yeah, and you know what you know? I

1031
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: like about pop smoke. He sounds like pop smoke, Like Hi, yeah,

1032
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: that's that's unheard of right now. That's why I did

1033
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: contest because I feel like, like we like cars. Yeah,

1034
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: we did forty five minutes with Megan, which is a

1035
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: really good interview, but that's a long time, Like that's

1036
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: probably the longest she could go. Like, like you said,

1037
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: I love Little Baby, I love Gunna. But they might

1038
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: not be ready for a whole hour of conversation. They

1039
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: may give you a good half hour funny minutes to

1040
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: a half hour. So there was definitely pressure in the

1041
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: podcast that we gotta have a whole hour content. So

1042
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: a lot of these new artists may pop up, but

1043
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: they don't fit that paradise if you like that way.

1044
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: So that's why I came up with contest, because I

1045
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: felt like, if we're running around and we have the

1046
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: set place for the interview and they're playing their music,

1047
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: it's like I could get a good five to fifteen

1048
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: minutes and do pray content that way. So everybody doesn't

1049
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: fit the long form podcast model, but doesn't mean it's

1050
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: not relevant. Like pop smoke is dope, but he's not

1051
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: ready yet to do like an hour. I don't think

1052
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: I want to talk about as music and that's how

1053
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: big and Nicki Minaj. Yeah, but you know it's it's

1054
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: almost like building up a cachet of stuff to talk about.

1055
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: You know, that's songs cool, but like that, it's gonna

1056
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,479
Speaker 1: get you so far exactly because like you guys critique, yeah,

1057
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: they you know, I almost got to fight, That's what

1058
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: I was like, Yeah, what are we doing? Man? This

1059
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: was after y'all actually interviewed him. Yeah, so what did

1060
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: you say to him that he was I don't know.

1061
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: It was posted interview, and I guess you know, as

1062
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: a fan, you know, people can treat you said that

1063
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: like his album, but you know, you know it's about

1064
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: his flow, somebody flow. I basically said that, Like for me,

1065
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: I'm a very to the point guy. Like I felt

1066
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: like Wiley's music was too abstract, you know, he would

1067
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: like I would lose my train of thought with his robes,

1068
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: like like something like someone might say that about a

1069
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: ghost face or rap corn that style. I just couldn't

1070
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: really identify with it, and that was the reason I

1071
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: really wasn't a fan of that stung with him and

1072
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 1: he said, you know, I think I think after say

1073
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: nothing in the moment, but after the interview I kind

1074
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 1: of expressed that a little bit more on two, you

1075
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: know whatever. Whatever. So when he was at the pool party,

1076
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, have a conversation. I ain't seen

1077
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: him around. Yeah, yeah, was saying about the silicide. It

1078
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: was packed. It was at the Gross House, the big

1079
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 1: House in Georgia, and he was in rapper mode too,

1080
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, because he was like trying to corner pool.

1081
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: It was a little bit of Molly involved. Yeah, I

1082
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: love so, Yeah, we're in a great space. So come up.

1083
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: So I go up and he's like, uh yo, man, Like,

1084
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly what you said. Ford. It was like,

1085
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: if you're saying then, I'm like, yo, what what the

1086
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: fund are you talking about? It? Like this body going

1087
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: around to me is his cruise ship. I'm like, I

1088
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: was irritated. Whatever it was this way it was. The

1089
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: belly was somewhere I didn't see the first he was

1090
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 1: some else and I say, you know, I'm not doing

1091
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: this in with you, hil and then he was like,

1092
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: come on this side. Then I was like, let's go

1093
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: this side, right, So he's going to join. He's in

1094
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: my face and this and I'm We're going back and

1095
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 1: forth and I'm like, you know what, I'm just gonna leave,

1096
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: like this is stupid. Part of the fight. You at

1097
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: the pool party. Next thing, we're gonna be world started,

1098
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: world and not cute. Let me ask let me ask

1099
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: you real quick. Do you think and maybe it's more

1100
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: for Elliott? Did you do print as well? Yeah? Okay,

1101
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: So do you think that there's more be for Les

1102
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: beef in in this age versus the print age. With

1103
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: journalism and the arts, it's lessbief because somebody on Twitter

1104
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: is telling you your hairline and giving you you feel

1105
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: because the public is done them. You can't beat that.

1106
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: You can't beat everybody. You can't beat everybody up. You

1107
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: can't block everybody. So you can't shut the lights out

1108
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: like if theyt saying, you know, Nori, no interrupted, there's

1109
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,479
Speaker 1: too many voices. You can't shoot everybody like you can't

1110
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: like back then, crazy age right now, that's true, but

1111
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying I think that more the regular voice gets

1112
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: in that chatter, like the majority you know what it is.

1113
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: You drop an album, you know you buy the weekend.

1114
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: Know how motherfucker's this feeling it? See it could be

1115
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: d o A could definitely arrival or likes with it,

1116
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: Like you get that instant feedback that we don't. We

1117
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: don't control that narrative anymore like the people do because

1118
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: of social media, the Twitter, because the Instagram, they're gonna

1119
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: emoji you out, they're gonna say what it is. It's

1120
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: like it's all there, so everything in your face. You

1121
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: got to do with it. So it was a big

1122
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: one of the biggest moments for you guys. My proudest

1123
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: moment for you guys was when you landed at the

1124
00:58:42,760 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: jay Z can't happen. So first off, it was so

1125
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,959
Speaker 1: how does this happen? You guys called the sober House

1126
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: or same were calling so hard and you didn't know

1127
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: what everybody think since his house that they think is

1128
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: actually his house. No I knew that because you're a

1129
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: soul house like sib Yeah, regular regular. I need Malibu, Okay,

1130
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't get my mallible baby, let

1131
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: me say a little manible, come on, come ontr And

1132
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: so how can I get in Malibu. Man ain't got

1133
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: me a whole toel October like said, gonna do a

1134
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: verdict on October, said why we got you in October?

1135
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: Like what, I ain't gonna holding batter right now. The

1136
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 1: reason why I got in so fast? I was actually there,

1137
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: like they're supposed to give you you you don't have

1138
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: a regular so you gotta pull up and you gotta

1139
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: say the people yo, for real and then they'll they'll

1140
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: do back room fucking infamous. Okay, but hold on, hold on, okay,

1141
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: so you guys whole finally agrees because I know even

1142
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: if he wanted to agree, he's gonna take some time

1143
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: to agree because he's that time. The second time we

1144
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: had a Jay Z interview prior first time, it was

1145
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: a pump fake. It was I was driving to he

1146
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I remember what was the message? Like

1147
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: turning the mics on, ready to talk. I almost crashing

1148
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: my cars like happy, But it didn't happen because he

1149
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: was like, we're trying to get yeah, okay, and it's

1150
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: pump fake. What its like he doesn't know basketball. I

1151
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: get that there no push your t um with Jay

1152
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: push drug deals anonymous and he samples the White Girl

1153
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: used to be on Fox. Yeah, jay Z that ship

1154
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: kissed him off. Okay, so when that ship came out

1155
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: the next day, emailed me and beat out, I'm ready,

1156
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: like who've been trying? Yeah, pull up, come to l A.

1157
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: Turn the mix up. But then he the Moistie stopped

1158
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: hitting us silence like then that Friday, I see tax

1159
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: Stone in his office and he's like, like the interview,

1160
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: that's why I went back. But going back to that, yes,

1161
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: so that was that was the original because that bothered

1162
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: him so much. He ended up, you know, cutting that

1163
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: records that represented his thing. But like that hit triggered him.

1164
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: So that was first thing out. But then the second

1165
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: time to four four it's been out for months. It

1166
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: was like a couple of weeks and it was just

1167
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: random like because so he says, I'm coming to l A. No,

1168
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: it was like, yo, let's talk something like history who

1169
01:01:55,520 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: was trying to get to get there? So cool. So

1170
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: if you know Jay, he's cryptic, like he doesn't say

1171
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: too many words. He talks like in riddles. He talks

1172
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: like Jesus, yeah you're talking about he emails you it's

1173
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: a synthesis, like this thing is ryding to me like

1174
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: when Jake contacts you, was just very cryptical, like you

1175
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: gotta like decipher the ship. So it's like, all right,

1176
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: we're ready, let's talk. So I'm like, oh, this is

1177
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: this is really happening. And so we and Ellie we

1178
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: like scrambled. We go to l A. Right man, in

1179
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: l A, I'm not hitting them till we land, because

1180
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: we don't believe things that's real until they're really at

1181
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, So we get to l A and

1182
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: we're like, okay, what do we do now? And we

1183
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: hit JA like yo, we're here. What's the next step.

1184
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: He's like, you're a crew? No no, because I was

1185
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: like we're doing I didn't know if he's gonna do video.

1186
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: So I was like, you know, we felming, like but

1187
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: I don't even call the video. We don't have nothing.

1188
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: We're just there. He's like it's Hollywood, man, get a crew,

1189
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: Like but you don't understand, like if you do production,

1190
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: it's not easy just to find that we didn't. I

1191
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: don't want to, like he didn't scratch this iPhone, Like

1192
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: we gotta get a crew. So we're like okay, and

1193
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: it's like maybe eleven o'clock. It was black and white

1194
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: or it's black and white, but we didn't know what

1195
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: we want to do, okay, so back then we did

1196
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: them all black because I was supposed to be like

1197
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: the Rebird for the CBS era, like a different ships.

1198
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: But then what will Smith we did The color looks

1199
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: too ill with so then we were back to color.

1200
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: Will Smith got outside of that. So we're the airport,

1201
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: were scrambling to trying to find a crew. But they

1202
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: were like, we're we gonna do this that right, And

1203
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: we said Rock Nation Office in l A. And he

1204
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: said so. But when he said so, ho, I thought

1205
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: he meant the sausin Holly Hollywood. Yeah, so house in

1206
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: downtown too, but the house Hollywood, that's about the downtown. Yeah.

1207
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: But then I didn't know about Malibu. Alibu. Fuck, That's

1208
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: why I like moment. I was like, we gotta getting

1209
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: a car because it's just like an hour so away.

1210
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: So it was my first time then, like Elliot, don't

1211
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: drive right. So I'm driving the Mallible Way, I'm like

1212
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: being there, crash because the driver is beautiful. It's it's

1213
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: like ships driving like no ship, y'all almost make right,

1214
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: So y'all get to the mount. I mean, I'm gonna

1215
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: do a tager ball, but I want you the tequiladge shudge.

1216
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: Can you give me? He got me? He was on

1217
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: the highway that story about himself. I thank you quite

1218
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: and I appreciate the other way and I hate it too,

1219
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: side as I don't give a fun So so it's

1220
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: all the same day, keeping driving a malliable. So I'm driving,

1221
01:04:55,640 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: crashing right up, driving to drive them out when you

1222
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: crashing and we get there. He's a drunk. So we

1223
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:14,919
Speaker 1: get there and I'm like, oh, this is really nice

1224
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: and then beautiful and what was so ill was because

1225
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm like looking at around, I'm like, it's like a Wednesday,

1226
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,439
Speaker 1: right middle of the day. You see what these white

1227
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: people in their laptops. Life is great. Like everyone's just chilling,

1228
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: smiles on their face. Member there, John Um, the publishing guy,

1229
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: he's a member of the always see them. It looks

1230
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: like a dope ass like apartment somewhere like in the city.

1231
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: The woman that you actually interview. I called it the

1232
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar room because every time I go there, I

1233
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 1: smoke a with upstairs Kendrick Lamar and TV is downstairs

1234
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: up side continue damn, how we making mallible happen? Tell

1235
01:05:55,360 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: you I would be in my friend. We go in

1236
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: the room and you know, food is coming out, and

1237
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: how do you how do you even convince them? Because

1238
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: first of all, I don't even know, I don't know

1239
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: who house is U a nonfillment place, you can't feel

1240
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: a valuable was even more strict than that, because that's

1241
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a that's a a private

1242
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: within a private? So how did you convince it what

1243
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: you just wanted? So that's what he was like that,

1244
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: But it's most like we have to make it happen.

1245
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: But then it's like you say it's whole, but you know,

1246
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: the funniest you ever say, fuzzy of it. But now

1247
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: when you first come in, there's like a girl, I said,

1248
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: right in the front, Right in the front, she had

1249
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: built up the system. I'm not trying to buy chother

1250
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: with the system that was running. She had hooked up

1251
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 1: the PA. She was in the seed. She was saying

1252
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: that she heard the whole interview. She was with the ballad,

1253
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: but she was listening to us. So I just think

1254
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: they got they got excited, Yeah, they got excited. One

1255
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: it's one's brown scared and it's one of the real

1256
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: real dog okay, one of them. All up was listening

1257
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: to the whole interview, like so I just think like

1258
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: we didn't know the weight of the whole thing because

1259
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: we had never been there. Like look back on it

1260
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: makes sense. But that's since the palace saying holds the

1261
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: ready to go. But none of that was planned. It's

1262
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: that we booked in advance, like when we come out,

1263
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna do whatever. I was determined with Sam telling

1264
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: be Dot, I'm scared of things, gonna change his mind.

1265
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: He's done it before. We ain't hitting until we touched down,

1266
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: Like we just landed. What's good what we're doing? Like

1267
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: him said, yea, So we landed, and so what we did?

1268
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: We landed, gotten the rent of car, beat us driving.

1269
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, let's en, um, let's see what we're doing, Like,

1270
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: let's try to see. I wanted to get the clearance

1271
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: to pull up to his crib and get it done.

1272
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: And then he wanted the location. So with scrambling right

1273
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: Nation the Malibu and Malibu. So man happened and then

1274
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: all things we were setting up and it had the

1275
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: door open with the ocean and the breeze and the

1276
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: ship popping, and it was so dope and lush, and

1277
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: it was like no, but when we stopped filming, you know,

1278
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: we got to close the door because so when he

1279
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: came in though Nigga's got so stra truck, they forgot,

1280
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: they forgot. So I was like, yo, running camera running again.

1281
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 1: But the thing that's great about it is that we hope.

1282
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: What what's great about hope is that you know, we

1283
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: we both have a great lection with him and we've

1284
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 1: had an ups and downs and he's a real nigger.

1285
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: We can really battle with him about certain things. But

1286
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: he didn't set parameters. He was like, Yo, I'm gonna,

1287
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna submit to the process. He had

1288
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: the power that you may never see it like he's

1289
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 1: in control ultimately, but he gave into the situation and

1290
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: get kept und So it wasn't that you can't ask

1291
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 1: me about salonage elevator, so be that, you know, beabout

1292
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: the shooting. He should go for it, hena. So we

1293
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: got all that stuff and it's just like and then

1294
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 1: when I mean when I sent it to because that

1295
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: sense of approval, he had no changes. He didn't touch him.

1296
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: He looked at it. So that's the hunt thing about like,

1297
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, he's bad about ny To outside of that,

1298
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 1: you know, I asked jay Z, you know the infamous

1299
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 1: ninety two breaks at the fallback? He said, will never change?

1300
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 1: I actually, you know, what's the story behind that? And

1301
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: he really gave the story and I was like, Yo,

1302
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: this is this is great, this internet goal. Like everyone's

1303
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: like we made it, you know. So when the inter

1304
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: OFEW came out and that part wasn't there, I said,

1305
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: what the fun is going on? And I'm like, I

1306
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: hit Yo, the ninetoo breaks you wanted to fall back?

1307
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: He was like, na, that was all Elliott, you take

1308
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: it out. I was like out. I was like, I'm reading,

1309
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: like not Elliott. But he made the right decision impression

1310
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: that was so bad? But but why would you do that? Yeah?

1311
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: Why the funk would you do? It didn't fit the

1312
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 1: whole FOURT four ship And then it wasn't like track

1313
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: seventies some one ninety two bricks. The fun thing is

1314
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: that after we did that, the thing is round about

1315
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 1: the bricks all over again, like talking about that too,

1316
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: Like he's talking about the brakes all over again. What

1317
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: made even work really pissed me off at the ELI

1318
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 1: didn't tell me and had the talent was wrong. Okay,

1319
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 1: I see you now so now when my dad, but

1320
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: I see I see them loading up man loading up. No,

1321
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: but but at that point, I definitely, I definitely have

1322
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: conversated you before I make it sision like it was

1323
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: a great experience. I still can't believe we did that,

1324
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: Like that ship is like it was like, like, no,

1325
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 1: you know what, I've been doing this for a minute.

1326
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: Fact that the fact that you don't know how hard

1327
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 1: it is to pull out the fucking camp first off

1328
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: that side of the room, because you remember, you gotta

1329
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: walk in and go to the rank, so that side

1330
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: of the room is only where they even allowed. But

1331
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 1: it's like this, you're not gonna this. So when I

1332
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 1: when I'm not really realized that first, yeah, because I

1333
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: get you don't get cross to that. Why come up?

1334
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: You know why? You know why? I believe even if

1335
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: we try to be black and excellent. So getting a

1336
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: hold is one thing, but getting him in that location

1337
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 1: meant so much more to me because I had just

1338
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 1: became a member and I was like you they told

1339
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: me that ship because we took a photograph after and

1340
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: in the picture there's like this clip picture over the

1341
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 1: clip it a little and said, we took the pictures

1342
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: like yeah, right three times. I didn't know it was

1343
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: malib something about the pictures. I said, there's something, there's

1344
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: something that's ringing at me. And then I'm going removable

1345
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,560
Speaker 1: and I'm walking through. And I walked through because I

1346
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: called the Kendrick lamarble when I'm like, kid, I really

1347
01:11:54,560 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: be in a teez motherfucker's I I see that. I'm

1348
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: going right now. The thing and the thing. The thing

1349
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: is to hear y'all say this story is amazing even

1350
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: more to me because I'm thinking you're playing that months

1351
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: in events the same day. It was like they didn't

1352
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: know what he was walking into. Jay said, just do

1353
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: it there, but he did to me use that room,

1354
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 1: setting up that way, half the food, the whole thing,

1355
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: like you didn't know. Okay, now, Will Smith, you guys

1356
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: found the stunt on us earlier when he dropped the

1357
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: Will Smith that was that was fun. No, but yeah,

1358
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: because we looked at the thing was like, I was

1359
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,879
Speaker 1: determined to make the whole title run different than the CBS.

1360
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 1: So let's just do black and white because it feels classic.

1361
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: It's a way to reinvent um. And then but with

1362
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 1: the title one, they had setting up this Will Smith

1363
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 1: one in Budapest. They had picked us location and the

1364
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: blue there was like all my production cool was like

1365
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: the colors. I was like, yore black and white. I

1366
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 1: would be dead in all the time now that were

1367
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: black and white. But there was like no cut. They

1368
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 1: showed me the picture of it. I was like, guys,

1369
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: how what's that story? So Will Smith shooting a movie right,

1370
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: and he's going to be in Budapest for like a

1371
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 1: month or two. This is the Genie movie. No, it

1372
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: was something else, so not a last he trying to

1373
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 1: kill himself. It's something coming out soon. I think they're

1374
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: using that technology where he's like looks really young or whatever. Okay, yeah,

1375
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: that's that movie. So he's out there filming, and um

1376
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: we were actually trying to get him for like a year,

1377
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,560
Speaker 1: like he's just new the Instagram. And then it was

1378
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: finally like he's going to be in Budapest shooting this movie.

1379
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: He's stuck here, Like he's stuck here for him because

1380
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 1: he travels a lot. That Nigg is like always like

1381
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: did he live on his best life for exactly? But

1382
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: there was like he got a film for these three

1383
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 1: to six weeks he's locked in Budapest. You know, could

1384
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: you pick these weekends? Like you can't pick this like

1385
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: memorial their weekend or whatever. So I picked the weekend

1386
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 1: and we made it. That was playing out with bit

1387
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 1: More was like finally got listen, if we're willing to

1388
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: take the flight and go out there and get it done,

1389
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: let's go get it done. So we went all the

1390
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: way to Hungary. Was not about eight hours, eight nine hours,

1391
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 1: and we did that at his hotel that was at

1392
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: the fourth Seasons. But even he was impressed when he

1393
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: came out the way we had it set up and

1394
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: that's like the lobby or like a secret room in

1395
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: that hotel he was staying at. So his hotel was

1396
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 1: you know more six star like some other ship. But

1397
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: we turned that whole set up the production crews like

1398
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: you see it like this thing. You know that ship

1399
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: is important. You know the thing you know you got

1400
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 1: you got on the shot. You saw him at the

1401
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 1: Nickelodeon Awards with the Nickelodeon a War, and I've seen

1402
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: him at the the ship that he had on Netflix.

1403
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the premier for the Alien the Zombie movie

1404
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: and Ship and that ship blew me away because you

1405
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 1: know I'm from left brack City, right yeah, right brack

1406
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 1: City section two. Um, I really don't never think I'm famous.

1407
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,640
Speaker 1: I never thought I was famous that all. And so

1408
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: that's why it's easy for me to do Dream Champs.

1409
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: It's easy for me to give people props in the set,

1410
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 1: props like I don't like to be picked up. Pause,

1411
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: Like I like, I'm better at big in somebody else out.

1412
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: So I see Will and he had to break for me.

1413
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, what's up? And I said, Will Smith,

1414
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 1: you don't know. It was shocking because I thought I

1415
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: had to. I had through somebody whispered to his ear

1416
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 1: and said, yea, that's Gnory right there. But he turned

1417
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 1: and he said, you know it, what's ups? So I'm

1418
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 1: looking for the person. Yeah, I'm like, no, you don't

1419
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: know what's up. And I don't know if he said nigga,

1420
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: but in my sounds, I game five and ship the

1421
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 1: room and I forgot what he said to me. But anyway,

1422
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: moving on, Yeah, hold that get just shot the So

1423
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 1: the other part of this is I'm in that l

1424
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 1: a um, I don't. I hate red carpets. I don't

1425
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: know if you guys have ever people in red carpets. Yeah, yeah,

1426
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 1: it's probably. It's probably like five maybe seven of me

1427
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: walking the red carpets, and I guarantee you it was

1428
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 1: the time where I had no control of my career.

1429
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 1: It's Chris body seriously right there, like keep walking like

1430
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 1: the Scott or somebody like like that. Because I just

1431
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:29,560
Speaker 1: hate red carpets. I've never understood the position of it,

1432
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: like you know, stand there, you're you know, we look here,

1433
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, look here, look at like why can't I

1434
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: look one place? Everybody take the one fucking picture and

1435
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 1: let me keep it moving. So I never understood it.

1436
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: So I go through the thing. They bring me these

1437
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: passes for the Nickelodeon ship. So when they go to

1438
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: the thing and they're like, yo, um, can you go

1439
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: to the red carpet? So it's just me, my wife

1440
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,759
Speaker 1: and my son, and I literally had a panic attack

1441
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 1: right here and there. I was like what red carpet?

1442
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, like and then the lady looked at

1443
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: me like okay, just flipped like like I don't really

1444
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 1: the red carpet. So as what I'm saying, I said,

1445
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: let me walk the other way. So as I walked

1446
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 1: the other way, the first person I see is will

1447
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 1: Smith and he goes. He did to me again, what's up?

1448
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 1: Nor gave me a five? And this is the crazy shit. Also,

1449
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 1: I also don't think none of these young niggas know me.

1450
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: So me goes walked right behind me, and I swear

1451
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 1: to God, I don't even save up to the ogs.

1452
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 1: You don't say what up to me? I literally don't

1453
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: give coach k and and and P come to me

1454
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 1: yourself something. But I wasn't gonna say nothing to I

1455
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 1: don't want to know. I'm not Joe. Butden, you know

1456
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: I ain't hating you know, I don't hear so so?

1457
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: And then what's is? Cardiv man? What's up? Nori says

1458
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: that it but he said what's uping? And I looked

1459
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 1: at the nigger because he was too far from me

1460
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: to reach y'all in the vibe. And then my son

1461
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 1: was like, then he would turn around. My son was like,

1462
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: give me is excited. He said, I'm like, he's some

1463
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 1: ho shoe. I'm not. No, I ain't gonna lie. I

1464
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: liked it that because he he didn't have to do that.

1465
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: He looked at me and he could have easily turned

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01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 1: around and be like whatever. You know. Yeah, we actually

1467
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 1: didn't try to be using for the whole crew. But

1468
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 1: what I want to say is the reason why most

1469
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 1: O g s don't give the young uns their respect

1470
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,759
Speaker 1: is because we don't think that we have their respect.

1471
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 1: So I would rather not. I would rather not because

1472
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: I was up to school you. But if I feel

1473
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 1: like you're gonna school me, you think that you've got

1474
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 1: a bigger chain on than me, because you might. Some

1475
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: of these guys might even have more money than me,

1476
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 1: while you have the longevity. You know what I'm saying,

1477
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: You might have better work to me. You might have

1478
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:13,759
Speaker 1: better client telling me, But are you gonna stay outside

1479
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 1: as long as me? I'm staying outside all day. I

1480
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: didn't go on this side when it rain, I'm going

1481
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 1: on rain skins when it thunderstorms. Don't getting under the thunderstorm. Yeah,

1482
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,759
Speaker 1: when it's hot, out of playing, Skelly, I'm doing everything

1483
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 1: you said. When you see I always say some people

1484
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: on bill for it. You know what you mean? That man?

1485
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 1: You sad like when you see like what you mean

1486
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: like I would like to break it down. I know

1487
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: exactly what you mean. I would like you to bring

1488
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: it down because there's so many talented brothers that don't

1489
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: take their talent as serious. But thing is, the thing

1490
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 1: is I noticed a cliche to say, but you know, uh,

1491
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 1: talent out beast people who's busy workers were working. You

1492
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 1: know it's gonna out work people with with with five

1493
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 1: six like I love it. I love I love to

1494
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: you know, just wake up in the morning and just

1495
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 1: think about more the every every great idea I ever had.

1496
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 1: I co signed it in the morning. I co signed

1497
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: at five like this thought. This guy was telling me

1498
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: to do a podcast for so long that right, and

1499
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 1: I couldn't see his vision until I woke up in

1500
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 1: the morning. And I probably him like four or thirty

1501
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 1: in the morning. He's probably like, what is this problem?

1502
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,719
Speaker 1: Every morning I waked up, I put my ship on airpin,

1503
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 1: I turned on I don't text. I said, I ready

1504
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 1: for me to rap radar man, thank you for coming

1505
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: out before we get out. Why can we do this?

1506
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 1: Why don't get a nigger like you to do the

1507
01:20:51,760 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: national And I wanted to serious, I do want to

1508
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:10,560
Speaker 1: know that yo, you know what um you know m

1509
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: hip hop raw Flush album two times? What a shame?

1510
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 1: And I stand medallions h to be told raw artests

1511
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: and Capone or fucking related. Wait wait, slow that I

1512
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 1: can't Capone and raw artests all fucking related, Like that's insane.

1513
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 1: So was supposed to be on the Roy Flush album? Yeah?

1514
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: I did ice that Medallions, I did that. That was

1515
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: that was my well when you did what a shame?

1516
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: Like this thing is really going in. Yeah, you gotta

1517
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 1: remember that was an easy LPB easy LP did most

1518
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 1: of Yeah, he did bloody money he did. I forget

1519
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: how much he did. So I'll go back to being

1520
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 1: an interview. So I was okay, that was actually supposed

1521
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 1: to be capone Okay, and you know I was the

1522
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: next best person to go to, uh Warrior Flush. But

1523
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know about Warrior Flush at the time. Was

1524
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: he was? He was? He was a real street dude

1525
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 1: like he was. He was the guy back in Mike Geronimo.

1526
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 1: Mike Geronimo was a lot of people don't know a

1527
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 1: lot of overlook I was yesterday, but she was real.

1528
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: It was nas and it was Mike right here, bro,

1529
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: he's nipping at him right. It was really like listen, listen.

1530
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: It was like I listened. Even when when he com

1531
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: big al was bigger than NAS at the time when

1532
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: its Colombia, like in that building that records, No you

1533
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 1: want to Columbia Records. At that time they signed big

1534
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: l direct and they got NAS, so they didn't know

1535
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: that vision yet big It was all about big Elig label.

1536
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: I was never No, don't know what I'm saying. That

1537
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: he was the guy. The reason it was great about

1538
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: Naz is ascension before the Alematic. I agree with him

1539
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more, even more that he's agreeing with

1540
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 1: it when you're the guy at the label and the

1541
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 1: label is the label. Yeah, because Halftime, because Columbia was

1542
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 1: a force to be record like this, So they was

1543
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 1: about big el Nas was the side rough house he goes.

1544
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 1: There were certain labels at that time that you knew.

1545
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: You go there, you blow. That jam has always been

1546
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 1: that label. They're just now losing that steam just now.

1547
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 1: No dispect to them. I loved them, but they're just

1548
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: now losing that steam in the scope has always been

1549
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: that label. But they always had sixteen artists that gear

1550
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: that didn't work as well. They had six that fucking

1551
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: went through the fucking roof so much. But the other

1552
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,560
Speaker 1: six teams you just forgot about these people balance that

1553
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 1: that that they were. And but now moving on to

1554
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: me changing stuff, you gotta start wrapped radar and you

1555
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 1: guys are backed by Paul Rosenberg, Yeah, and Eminem. How

1556
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: then do not Eminem? Technically? I don't know, but you know,

1557
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 1: and the site to be specific because here and he

1558
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 1: was a little more hefty. Yeah, it's okay, but it's

1559
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 1: is Eminem's money somehow, somehow, how even how do you

1560
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: guys even get that meeting? How does that even set

1561
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: up to? I think that's an elliot question because the

1562
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 1: turning point was when we did them and this is

1563
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 1: a website, it's not a magazine, but it's not hard fifty.

1564
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: So we saw the supporting fifty when fifty was running

1565
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 1: the underground the mixtape ship was phenomenal. That running went

1566
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: on before he signed a shady aftermath. The site supporting fifties,

1567
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 1: huh the site when you're saying, when you're supporting fifty site,

1568
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 1: magazine whatever, like already no, no, I'm giving you the

1569
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 1: whole how guess to Paul Rosenberg. So it really started

1570
01:24:55,400 --> 01:25:00,679
Speaker 1: with fifty I credit fifty like documented fifties rods, underground, dominating,

1571
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 1: come back after the after the getting shot, dominating the underground,

1572
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 1: running the game, and then he signs with he signs

1573
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 1: with Shady Aftermath. So it's like, damn, like we had

1574
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 1: a good report with him. He was putting in the

1575
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: magazine every month. I was like, he's probably not gonna

1576
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: us because at the time EXXL didn't mess actually said

1577
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: I had to be foot the eminem before I got there,

1578
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,560
Speaker 1: and I wasn't able to squash it. So he was

1579
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 1: pro source at that time. So I was like, aftermath

1580
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 1: of the Shady Aftermath finished, who would have thy? Right? Yeah?

1581
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 1: So um, I was like fifties bowling up. But he's

1582
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 1: gonna like say, he can't sunk with us once he

1583
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: signs with them, they're gonna sunk with us. But when

1584
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 1: he when he popped off Noah, callahand Bever who's at

1585
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: death and now too, he says the me, me and

1586
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:51,719
Speaker 1: Paul was first Paul Rosenberg and was like he wanted

1587
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 1: the comics at the time, you know, he was he

1588
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 1: was freelancing. He wont the never story, the whole fifty

1589
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 1: cent Eminem Dr Drake cover xx L. He wrote the

1590
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 1: cover US or you know, I just found out No,

1591
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 1: it was a journalist. Always thought he was like a

1592
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: blogger complex. I had no idea he was the guy

1593
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: that was yeah, so like keep did that cover and

1594
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 1: like that was the beginning of me and pools Burg

1595
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: having to sit down where it was like I was

1596
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: only trying to get a fifty cent cover. He's like,

1597
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 1: how you want em? And Dr Dre I'm like, let's go.

1598
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 1: So the thing is when I got when I got

1599
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: fired from a double XXL, Paul hit me up Poars

1600
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 1: and burg Eminem's partner hit me up and said, you know,

1601
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: your voice is missing from the culture, Like what's your

1602
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 1: next step? What are we gonna do? At the time,

1603
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 1: Peress Hilton represented the whole gossip, so he's like, that

1604
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: could be you. You could be the Elliott Wilson. You're

1605
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 1: the voice of hip hop, your voice. Everybody should read

1606
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 1: your editorials. Your voice is missing. You could be the

1607
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 1: gatekeeper of hip hop, and you could be like, what's

1608
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: your voice. That's how we came up with rad That's

1609
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 1: how it began, and then we stout to be dot.

1610
01:26:52,640 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 1: We met and Georgia yea quez right now. It used

1611
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 1: to be that movie did it right there? Come okay,

1612
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 1: siss down the block ail you get eat God damnit.

1613
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: Georgia died and he's like, hey, I want to start

1614
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 1: a website. You know, it's weird because it's like two

1615
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 1: thousand and eight. There is no Instagram right Twitters in

1616
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 1: its infancy, and the source had just lost tons of

1617
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: on the website, the recessions about to hit. It was

1618
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:31,600
Speaker 1: a lot of things going on. And it's like with

1619
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,679
Speaker 1: the dot com dot com. Remember they're like the first

1620
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 1: people that dot com was the first. Everything first, and

1621
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 1: you know, we come from journalists. Background journalist at the

1622
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 1: time used to look down on the website and the

1623
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: internet essentially saying go from journalists to a blog. Yeah,

1624
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 1: and I was like a website. We didn't have a name,

1625
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 1: but you know it was like all right, I trust you.

1626
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna make this happen. What they just told men

1627
01:27:53,479 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: bleak about that's hard to hold other stories, but anywhere

1628
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna play that right now forget. So a week

1629
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: later we had to meet with Paul. He was like,

1630
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:09,640
Speaker 1: I got the name of the website called right up.

1631
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 1: Paul thought of the name. Yeah, I was hoping all

1632
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: the names shout out and I was like, I never

1633
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: thought that. And it's like, you see the reason for

1634
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:19,839
Speaker 1: the name. It was a bunch of names, like it's

1635
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: one of like a generic kind of like one of

1636
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 1: the that that sounded like it already had been out,

1637
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't like a new ship. That's true. We

1638
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 1: said rap raid of? You said what authorities like it

1639
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: already existed. We just started it sucked you, which was like,

1640
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 1: oh ship, Like so you guys have these websites. You

1641
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 1: all look cool your blog like she is popping. But

1642
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 1: his rap raid off, it's changed, game has changed, tagline quick,

1643
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: household aggression. And you know we we we've settled on

1644
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: a date to launch at March night, which was Biggies

1645
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: passing of BRG and you know the rest of history

1646
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 1: have been at it ever since ten years right off,

1647
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 1: God damn it, God damn. What what does that backing

1648
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:07,799
Speaker 1: look like? You know, to give me very much specific,

1649
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 1: it's like it's with a budget. You know, we had

1650
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: a we had a space. I was so and it

1651
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 1: was what he next. He was there for like six

1652
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 1: years and then I guess the rank got too damn high.

1653
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: What was the coach like compulside, I'm saying it was

1654
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 1: him like literally investing in it. Yeah it was, Yeah

1655
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 1: he was. That's that's what I mean. I don't I

1656
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 1: don't need to know what the fun Yeah, he like

1657
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:32,759
Speaker 1: I'm back in this and then you got are discussing

1658
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 1: what it takes to make it work. Absolutely a real

1659
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 1: partner in that sense, and I appreciate that like him,

1660
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 1: he took a losses, took his chances like in that

1661
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,640
Speaker 1: world because literally is he evolved because I wanted to

1662
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 1: be a big or just just wrap right of surpassive partner.

1663
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 1: I mean everything wrap Radar is still a partnership with

1664
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 1: me and him. Okay, the brand is still partnership. Yeah,

1665
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:59,560
Speaker 1: that's dope. That's dope. Appreciate he's respectful. But like the

1666
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 1: thing great about rap Radars it's becoming the podcast. And

1667
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,600
Speaker 1: you know, I credit the guy's vision. You saw the

1668
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 1: vision before me about the podcasting to rap rate of

1669
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: podcast that was like, yeah, I was a SOMERF. I'm like,

1670
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 1: I don't see it because like you know, I p

1671
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 1: combat Jack. I was like, I don't want to look

1672
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to like like want to set the

1673
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 1: bar in the beginning, and then Combat was doing his thing.

1674
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 1: R I p to him. I was like, I don't

1675
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 1: want to just jump in, look like I'm all greedy

1676
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 1: trying to do a podcast. But beat Out was smart.

1677
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 1: He was like, you know there's a lane for that,

1678
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 1: and like, now, when you think of rap Radar, it's

1679
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 1: about the podcast. So I credit beat Out for making

1680
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 1: it happy. And when you think about it, behind the

1681
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 1: back in the days, the behind the scenes, the dudes

1682
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 1: was just behind the scenes. Yeah, I was the days.

1683
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: The behind the scenes dudes have their own you know,

1684
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 1: when it looks like it was a wonderful time, but

1685
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 1: you were doing bad. You was doing rus because when

1686
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:58,640
Speaker 1: we brought up fifty to you, he was like, he

1687
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 1: did not like it was what's about? I think it

1688
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 1: was Chass bless the chatd I think you did an

1689
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:17,679
Speaker 1: interview with Chaz. It wasn't just that blah black hair chairs.

1690
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 1: Here's the thing anything, It's funny when people talk about

1691
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 1: um rappers like someone soul doesn't like you. Rappers don't

1692
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 1: like media, so it's like, so like the thing about him,

1693
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,680
Speaker 1: he fifth we didn't have like that rapport. Everything once through,

1694
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 1: Vanessa was all good. It was like, but I got

1695
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 1: no problem, Like I respect for him, like he set

1696
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 1: the whole ship off, like we mean history together, every

1697
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 1: run is phenomenal, like I was. I was. I'm blessing

1698
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:47,560
Speaker 1: honor to be able to document that whole Let me

1699
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 1: straight to the point, because let me just do it

1700
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:55,640
Speaker 1: and do it. That's a journalist, sir, obligated to you,

1701
01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 1: obligated to your audience. It's smoke Champs. So I asked

1702
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 1: you not to interview a certain person, and you felt

1703
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 1: obligated to you only because it was responsible something he

1704
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 1: already had said. That's why they got the end of

1705
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 1: what you mean. It means at the time he had

1706
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 1: did something that had piste off that crew, and then

1707
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:24,560
Speaker 1: I gave them to respond to the situation because you know,

1708
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:26,679
Speaker 1: like the thing was like same with the Tupac tupac

1709
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 1: us Vibe. Tupac used Vibe to be his voice, magnify

1710
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 1: his voice about his issues about what this would biggie

1711
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 1: the whole thing. So it's like, do you blame the magazine?

1712
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 1: Do you blame why everybody blames Vibe for the same

1713
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 1: way Jenny and Business and fifty meant that we became

1714
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 1: fifties platform. So when fifty had a problem with somebody,

1715
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 1: it got magnified because double x L would be behind this,

1716
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: So I have to catch all the heat that comes

1717
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 1: with that, right, And see the thing about it is

1718
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 1: that's the reason why I don't want to claim myself

1719
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:01,560
Speaker 1: as a journe the list. It's because I want to

1720
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 1: give people. But the basic journalist thing is to cover

1721
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 1: both sides. So if your side, we're not journalism at

1722
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 1: that's crazy about it because even when I did Ray

1723
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 1: and fifty right, it was like, oh, we didn't do it.

1724
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 1: Two months later I did Murdering because Murdering had got favored.

1725
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:23,600
Speaker 1: I got raided by the fans. That's a story. So

1726
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 1: I did the whole bull's eye of the public enemy

1727
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:27,639
Speaker 1: logo Earth Clubs that to this day if you asked

1728
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 1: Earth Earth Clubs that I always got along with Earth,

1729
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 1: I got along with cats. So it's like everybody said, oh, y'all, En,

1730
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 1: let scopes, dick, y'all worked for Jimmy, I v your

1731
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,640
Speaker 1: favorite fifty cent And then three months later, after the

1732
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 1: infamous covered, we covered the other side, which is the

1733
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 1: murder ink side of the story. So that's what I

1734
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 1: always tried to do. But I always always favorite Fifth

1735
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 1: because Fifth was dominant of the culture, like he Mazin

1736
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 1: belave it. After that conflict, he did the Curtis was

1737
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 1: Curtis album. Curtis, he wasn't that one that he got

1738
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 1: on his f Elliott Wilson ship. He still did the

1739
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 1: cover and it was all cool. Yeah, he hated you.

1740
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 1: That sum wrong. But because I heard you say one time,

1741
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 1: you said it was hard for you to cover j

1742
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 1: knowing that you and j had became friends at one point,

1743
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 1: Well that was that. That wasn't in the magazine at

1744
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 1: that time. No, No, But what I'm trying to say

1745
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 1: is how hard is that? Because the thing about it is, right,

1746
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:21,719
Speaker 1: I just watched the Love of Hip Hop, not comparing

1747
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:24,679
Speaker 1: you to Jason Lee and no Way form and fashion.

1748
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 1: But Jason Lee is sitting there and he's telling a one.

1749
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, I gotta report that. I probably not.

1750
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 1: You're sucking some other bits, right. So now with me

1751
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 1: with me, I like like that day nas and be

1752
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 1: interview nas Naves could have had his face and a

1753
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 1: stripper's pussy that morning and my artist and with me

1754
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 1: and me would have not asked him that question. That's

1755
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 1: what That's what I distinguishedly makes me not a journalist

1756
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 1: because I would rather protect my artist, but as a journalist,

1757
01:34:55,560 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 1: that makes me suck. You got. But what I'm trying

1758
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 1: to say to you is because I remember what you're

1759
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 1: saying that about Jay, You're saying it was kind of

1760
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 1: hard to cover him at well to accept that, Like

1761
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 1: I got to accept that we're growing closer and I

1762
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 1: do consider him a friend. But to be the good

1763
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: thing about him is that this thick skin. So it's

1764
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 1: like if you think something's white, he wants to have

1765
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 1: that debate with you. It's like you can't like just

1766
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 1: be We're not here to be yes man carrosself a

1767
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 1: certain But that works with Jack, Yeah, it didn't work

1768
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 1: with fifty. Why we never had that report. That's what

1769
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 1: the twisted part about that is is that he never

1770
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 1: liked me. We just did great together. He never liked me.

1771
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 1: We didn't be in a stupn and it was great

1772
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that. Like never like he didn't ask him,

1773
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 1: did you ever like Elliott? But rappers didn't like? Why

1774
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:52,639
Speaker 1: would you like me? I'm fucking media? Rappers don't like media.

1775
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 1: It shot to my journalist my nigger. Like rappers don't

1776
01:35:57,640 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 1: like a certain extate with people, get you fair articles,

1777
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 1: you start to build up a poor with them. No,

1778
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 1: but that was all. Really believe that's your report with Jay.

1779
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 1: I believe that. But one thing I can tell you, sincerely, Yes,

1780
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 1: I know you believe that Jay is the best artist

1781
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 1: in the world. I know you sincerely believe that. I

1782
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 1: think that If you don't say, if you don't think

1783
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 1: Jay is the greatest of all time, you're just telling

1784
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:23,720
Speaker 1: me who your favorite is of all time, like all

1785
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:27,679
Speaker 1: that fift ship. That ship is depressing to me because

1786
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 1: it's like you're just like you have such a war

1787
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 1: view of hip hop. Of like when you talk about

1788
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 1: the greatest, it comes down to stats. It comes down

1789
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 1: to catalog and comes down the platinum records. It doesn't

1790
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 1: come down to like lyrical, miracle, spiritual. It comes down

1791
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 1: to stats, like with sing basically saying the best artist,

1792
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 1: and that's subjective a certain point, but it's like you

1793
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 1: can't deny that one. It's type a little way to

1794
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 1: win the granby because it's the car the free time,

1795
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 1: We're all gonna clop whether we like him or not,

1796
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 1: because it's a little way it's time he wanted to think.

1797
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 1: So I think that is like this idea of like

1798
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 1: what is your personal favorite and what is the greatest?

1799
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 1: Like we don't control what the greatest is stats, the

1800
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 1: stats like respect and what I'm saying. Some people on

1801
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 1: the different what is greatest mean though it's another thing.

1802
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna make something personally great to you. It doesn't

1803
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 1: mean it's great, can it be? It's can have been

1804
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 1: more than one. So for jay Z, for jay Z

1805
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 1: to be whatever on the biggest scale, and I think

1806
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:28,639
Speaker 1: so too legible goals, but also think Jordan's a goal.

1807
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:30,760
Speaker 1: I also think bird is a goal and my wrong,

1808
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 1: Magic is a goal. But there's always one validatorian the

1809
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,639
Speaker 1: end of the day. Isn't that opinionated though? But it's

1810
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 1: it's generational And he's saying but and that's true. But

1811
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 1: but but at the end of the day, isn't it

1812
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 1: what you prefer? I think it's all about what you prefer, Yes,

1813
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 1: but you also take yourself out the picture and look

1814
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 1: at the larger picture as a whole, right, agree, Like

1815
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 1: I go to jay Z shows in their pack like

1816
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 1: the B Side Show for instance. You know those things

1817
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 1: weren't cheap, and there was people from eight to eighty.

1818
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 1: They're reciting the words, and I alway is looking like

1819
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:01,880
Speaker 1: you don't have to be a jay Z fan to

1820
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 1: know jay z music almost like a drink and his

1821
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,519
Speaker 1: music has lasted the test of time and it's impact.

1822
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 1: You could be in the Bay Area and the forty

1823
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 1: could do the same thing here. I think he is

1824
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 1: a legend, but I think it's very regional but appealed.

1825
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 1: But it could be equally on that side as well.

1826
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 1: They might say the same thing I'm saying regionally. We

1827
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:22,560
Speaker 1: gotta understand that everybody has different perspectives regionally, right, but

1828
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 1: for what they think hip hop like whatever we want

1829
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 1: to add to these listspect forty, But I would use

1830
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 1: jay Z's approach and his music has penetrated the culture

1831
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 1: more on a national scale, more on a global scale

1832
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 1: than he for no disrespect because yeah, of course, so

1833
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: I think that's the reason why I would put him

1834
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 1: my number one as well. Who would you putting on one?

1835
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 1: Though I got not the number one, but not And

1836
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 1: I want to be very very very very careful at

1837
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 1: this because it's not it's not because he's my friend.

1838
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 1: A lot of people, um illmatic meant more to me.

1839
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 1: I swear to God, I think it meant more to

1840
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 1: me than meant to him because of the time, like

1841
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 1: I would, living against the life, I can't describe anybody

1842
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 1: else or what anybody else was doing. I can only

1843
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 1: say what I was doing. And I got caught up

1844
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 1: in the system. When I got caught up in the system,

1845
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 1: it hurt me to actually walk through people like queens

1846
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 1: like and I really had to fight for that ship.

1847
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:21,640
Speaker 1: Cares One really put us in a bad position that

1848
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,600
Speaker 1: it was like listen, listen. Me and I spoke about it,

1849
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 1: and you said, you know, we we listen to that

1850
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:33,759
Speaker 1: in the bridge. It's true, but um uh all matic.

1851
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:36,879
Speaker 1: When I listened to it was it was Biggie Smalls,

1852
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 1: it was Buckshot Shorty, it was all these dudes. But

1853
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:43,640
Speaker 1: when al Mattock dropped, it was something that it did

1854
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 1: to me. I've seen Steinway Street. I saw a story

1855
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 1: of hours. I saw I saw a woodside I saw

1856
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 1: I saw basically projects. I saw south Side, I saw

1857
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 1: a hunch seven got Broad. I saw this. I visually.

1858
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:57,680
Speaker 1: I would read books, not because I liked to read it.

1859
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to get out of jail. So when I

1860
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:03,559
Speaker 1: would read a book, I would read Donald Goring's Horse Son,

1861
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 1: I would beat in Detroit or whatever the funk. Donald

1862
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 1: Gorman's wrote like, I don't like reading. I'm actually my

1863
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 1: name of my book is called reading is overrated? More

1864
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 1: teen pages, four teen pages, hurry up, wake up. But

1865
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:23,880
Speaker 1: so so what happened was I would read these these

1866
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 1: books like Dope Son, dopefee, excuse Me and all this

1867
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 1: ship And when Ill Mattic came it was the first

1868
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 1: time I visually saw an album ever like I visually described.

1869
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:36,560
Speaker 1: And a lot of people would say, well, you know

1870
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:39,560
Speaker 1: what that's because you're from queens But I wasn't in

1871
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 1: queens Bridge every day. I wasn't on staring Way Street

1872
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 1: every day. I wasn't in rats with projects. I wasn't

1873
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 1: in woodside projects every day. What'side project wasn't from your side.

1874
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I went to What's Side forty six and

1875
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:54,799
Speaker 1: Bliss on the seventh Trade. I went to that school.

1876
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:59,640
Speaker 1: When when Nas actually did that, I saw it. But

1877
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: even if I wasn't from that place, the fact that

1878
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:06,560
Speaker 1: he described Queen's wridg that dope to me. When you

1879
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 1: say the greatest of all times. And if you say

1880
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 1: that jay Z is the greatest artist of all times

1881
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 1: when when it comes to rap, yeah, I have to

1882
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:16,640
Speaker 1: agree with that's it when you say that, because what

1883
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 1: do you say, say those words? No artists? You know?

1884
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 1: This is why it's such a tricky. This is why

1885
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 1: that black thought no wrong. How do we just think

1886
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 1: with goats? I believe it is versus its artists like

1887
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 1: this is when we have those discussions, I say, artists

1888
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:43,439
Speaker 1: versus rappers right, your rapping right, there's good rappers and

1889
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:46,639
Speaker 1: rappers right this good artists, it is bad artists. Artists

1890
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:49,759
Speaker 1: to me are how you construct the album, your songs,

1891
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 1: your versus your courses, the sales, the economics of it

1892
01:41:53,320 --> 01:42:00,120
Speaker 1: as well. Just rappers rappers can't agree with him when

1893
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:02,160
Speaker 1: it comes to stats when you nobody turning that down.

1894
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 1: So I think when we have the discussions more so

1895
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 1: about artistreet and I think about it, it's more, it's more,

1896
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,280
Speaker 1: it's more I'm next to, but it's more of the

1897
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 1: what you prefer. Like like to tell you the truth,

1898
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna get so much slack for this. I

1899
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 1: didn't like reasonable doubt because I was broken, but it

1900
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 1: was an incredible Yeah, I just was broke but could

1901
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 1: not relate to it like I couldn't. It's like it's

1902
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 1: for real. It's like to this day, like when he

1903
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 1: came up with niggas in Paris. Yeah, I went to

1904
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:46,120
Speaker 1: a club and one of my homies bar fifty bucks

1905
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 1: for me. And did he go to the club and

1906
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 1: he said, what's fifty grand to a nigger? Like, and

1907
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:58,639
Speaker 1: I'm looking like you just dollars you doing singing that line.

1908
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 1: But at that point, like I had, I was an

1909
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:05,840
Speaker 1: ounce nigga, I was a quarter ounce nigger. I was

1910
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 1: a quarter key. I was a key dude, most I

1911
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 1: ever had as a key. When you talk about you

1912
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 1: know these bricks and all that, I'm like, Jesus, I'm thinking,

1913
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 1: he lying, I'm not thinking this is really I'm looking

1914
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 1: at its aspirational. Maybe No, I didn't look at it

1915
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 1: like that. I looked at it like he was flossing

1916
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:28,760
Speaker 1: on what's the next album after that? Okay, that's something.

1917
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 1: That's something one he had to marry go around where

1918
01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:37,360
Speaker 1: he went the merry go around, Sunshine, Sunshine after Sunshine.

1919
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 1: That that was my nigga. That So I'm like that

1920
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 1: take a long time that take a long time at

1921
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 1: that point is that Listen, my very first shows was

1922
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:52,200
Speaker 1: with jay Z. A Nigga l A l A came

1923
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:54,519
Speaker 1: out the same time I hooked him up with the

1924
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 1: light skin bitches from my hood. Come on, he's been

1925
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 1: like about them, So let me say that correct because

1926
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:05,720
Speaker 1: if you want to see I want to seem like,

1927
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 1: yeah you know, but um yeah, I had been. But

1928
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:13,600
Speaker 1: after YO two Dan, I had recognized because maybe I

1929
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:18,680
Speaker 1: started getting money, okay, and it's it's that's real. That's

1930
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:20,240
Speaker 1: the most honest answer. You said that. It was the

1931
01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:22,680
Speaker 1: most honest. Like if you're not making money and a

1932
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 1: dude is talking about making way more money than you,

1933
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 1: you're not talking about making a hundred hours more than you.

1934
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 1: He didn't wait making he listen. I had a five

1935
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 1: a five, so it was it was relatable. That's why

1936
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 1: I loved the fourth four four album. I feel like

1937
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:45,679
Speaker 1: the album should coming because that's because I think about Graham.

1938
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 1: It's my number to jay z albums, that's number two.

1939
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 1: The thing Grams, if you look at the tradition to

1940
01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 1: the Grammys, they always like favorite is hardest, a little

1941
01:44:57,320 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 1: past that prime, like creating a gray body of work

1942
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:03,599
Speaker 1: that like you know what I mean, mess certain things

1943
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:08,360
Speaker 1: that that ship didn't relate to, like hip hop. When

1944
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 1: I was trying to give Jenny things like give everything

1945
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 1: in the Kendrick, Why could you gave it to Maclamo before.

1946
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 1: It's just like it was lame with me like you

1947
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 1: got in front row like Jagga deserved one of those. Yeah,

1948
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 1: absolutely should have got that one. I'm high as fucked

1949
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 1: by the way. Chance. Come on, give us the smoke,

1950
01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:33,519
Speaker 1: Open it up, Open it up, show it to the camera, yo,

1951
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:48,479
Speaker 1: shows smoke. Yo. Is this ship? You take it out? Man,

1952
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 1: I'll be scared of it. Train a day. What is that? Yo?

1953
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 1: It's just a twig with fucking frost. What we're talking about?

1954
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 1: We got saw you. I'm trying to get us advert

1955
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 1: smoke smoke yo, second hand? Yo. See his ain't drinks

1956
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:14,400
Speaker 1: become smoke champs. Yes, is always been smoked. He brought

1957
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 1: the name earlier. I'm not gonna I got drink, I

1958
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:29,680
Speaker 1: got smoke dj LLC. That's right LLCC. Let's go and

1959
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 1: let's go. What's what's what you got and what's the

1960
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 1: ship that makes you wake up in the morning to

1961
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:38,600
Speaker 1: be thrilled? Like like like like like you know what,

1962
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:43,680
Speaker 1: you know what you know the crazy ship is right. Um,

1963
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 1: when we start this podcast, we wanted to just deliver

1964
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 1: information and what happened was you know smoke, right, people

1965
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:57,599
Speaker 1: want to live you know you're shign up for its. Sorry, Yeah,

1966
01:46:57,880 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 1: people wanted us to deliver I don't think you should.

1967
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to protect you. Why nig is nasty? Got

1968
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 1: like water with like a little bit like not just

1969
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 1: missingly drag a little bit, but it's all good or

1970
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 1: the yells. So what is the thing like, what is

1971
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:24,720
Speaker 1: it like when you sit down with an artist and

1972
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:27,639
Speaker 1: you get like for me, for me, right, I'm sorry

1973
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:30,840
Speaker 1: to relate it to me, but for me to see

1974
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 1: nas talking about Prince and see now I's talking about

1975
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:36,960
Speaker 1: big big so elusively and he wasn't. He wasn't giving

1976
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 1: me one word answers to me, that's a thrill to

1977
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:46,759
Speaker 1: bring somebody out there. Show what is your thrill when

1978
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:49,080
Speaker 1: you do an interview? Um, like I said, just being

1979
01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 1: a fan, right, so I'm talking to the superhero. So

1980
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm getting But what happens if you're

1981
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 1: you're not a fan of this person. I'm a fan

1982
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:57,760
Speaker 1: of the music. You know, I'm a fan of the coach.

1983
01:47:57,840 --> 01:47:59,640
Speaker 1: I just want to do a good interview nobody. He

1984
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 1: wasn't a yeah, of course about it, but you could

1985
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:06,599
Speaker 1: be a figure journey journalize you're not a little nose.

1986
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 1: But I can't think about who We've been too so

1987
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 1: many people that I wasn't necessarily a fan of. But

1988
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, I love the music, but I'm not a

1989
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 1: jeezy active listener. But but I want to say something

1990
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:27,439
Speaker 1: about what he said. We keep talking about the naz

1991
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 1: episode that was not legitimately a real drink Champs and exact,

1992
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 1: and we have our story with that as well that

1993
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:37,880
Speaker 1: we don't have to get into it, a little long story.

1994
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 1: But we were supposed to do it here in Miami,

1995
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:42,439
Speaker 1: came here and then we went and did it at

1996
01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 1: his album released party. It would have been a totally

1997
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 1: different and yeah, yeah, yeah, but but but you know

1998
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 1: what it is like when when when we do it,

1999
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:52,720
Speaker 1: because there was a live audience, so we had to

2000
01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:55,759
Speaker 1: cater to the audience, of course, and we only have minutes.

2001
01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 1: I'm a natural former, so when I'm gonn that before,

2002
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna naturally perform towards the crowd. Yeah, you know

2003
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:04,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So I mean it was good. But

2004
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 1: the thing is one I was not asking about no, no, no,

2005
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 1: his police questions. I'm not I'm not doing that talking

2006
01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm I'm a fucking baby father and I'm

2007
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 1: a fucking artist, and I don't want to ask me

2008
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 1: about my baby mama. I got like five, I don't

2009
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 1: even know, like even I had some time back in

2010
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:28,720
Speaker 1: the days, So so I don't want that. So why

2011
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 1: would I do something to somebody? And not only that,

2012
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 1: like we're not only like back, we've pairing our relationship,

2013
01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 1: like this motherfucker's hitting me, Like, why would I breaking up?

2014
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:44,160
Speaker 1: We don't do that, said to you, two hour interview

2015
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:46,240
Speaker 1: with got it. He sat right here, He smoked weed,

2016
01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 1: he drank all the type of ball he did whatever.

2017
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 1: And I've never brun not because that's not a hot

2018
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 1: topic of the conver but it's not our platform. We

2019
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:59,040
Speaker 1: don't want to continue the gossteps. Not only that, the

2020
01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:00,920
Speaker 1: first time he had been you know, all here, he

2021
01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:04,000
Speaker 1: was warming with y'all whatever, So we let Benzino say whatever.

2022
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 1: It was warm with us. You know, we had ours,

2023
01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:09,400
Speaker 1: So we let Benzino say, what's up? We also have

2024
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 1: a Benzino interview two hours not one. Elliott Wilson slammed that,

2025
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 1: Oh wow, plas, I just want to say he was possible. Yeah,

2026
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:28,679
Speaker 1: is that he did say? Oh we got along. Yeah,

2027
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:31,400
Speaker 1: it was just it got to the point where you know,

2028
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:33,639
Speaker 1: a guy was running reckless, like we need to picture.

2029
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 1: He had the g check me brung up Scott, he

2030
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 1: broke up you, he said, he said nah, And that's

2031
01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 1: what Elliot and came on and Elliott took over this

2032
01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:53,560
Speaker 1: swear because he was always a hundred to got to

2033
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:55,240
Speaker 1: that point. You know that we have to do, but

2034
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:58,680
Speaker 1: we always a respect and that's what hip hop has

2035
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 1: to go into. But there unfortunately, I just love doing

2036
01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 1: a good job. Then what gives me up in the morning.

2037
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:06,719
Speaker 1: I love the fact if we do a good interview

2038
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 1: and contact someone, it gives an opinion about hip hop

2039
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:14,920
Speaker 1: and it's just the game. Now that buck, what is that? Like?

2040
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:20,000
Speaker 1: What did you say? You said wasn't the top five? Yeah?

2041
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,639
Speaker 1: I said, I said Stole was in the top five.

2042
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 1: Bad boy artist me and going back and forth, and

2043
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:28,160
Speaker 1: I said the number one was Big of course, number

2044
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:31,599
Speaker 1: two was Jada Kiss or I think Mace or Jada

2045
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 1: Kiss three was one of those and like Black Rob

2046
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 1: and I think maybe like Stoups like five or six, right,

2047
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:46,720
Speaker 1: bad boy, bad boy, you gave him. So Charlotmi was like, Yo,

2048
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:49,679
Speaker 1: we are you talking about? Style? Is better than make somebody?

2049
01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? You're going drugs? Because if

2050
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:54,160
Speaker 1: you remember back in that time, like Mace was the

2051
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 1: nigger going back to the Elliott says stats, yeah, yeah,

2052
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 1: at least it was a moment Mace was that good

2053
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:08,600
Speaker 1: looking at you in your face and say I remember that, No,

2054
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember that Mace was that not Murdervation

2055
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 1: was that guy, but that nigga he talked about what

2056
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:26,519
Speaker 1: murder he was riding up pre pre Harlem world. Maybe

2057
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 1: you talked about Murdervation cor Ma I'm talking about about.

2058
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:36,880
Speaker 1: I'll tell the world that nigga was that guy, the

2059
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:41,519
Speaker 1: nigga that did come to camera. Yes, that nigga double up.

2060
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 1: Mace was that guy. Popularity wise and lyrically. What was

2061
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:50,880
Speaker 1: his own of No, you know this, nor you know that.

2062
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you what that that's my eye it was.

2063
01:52:57,240 --> 01:53:00,840
Speaker 1: I'll tell you exactly what wasn't train. What happened was

2064
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:07,599
Speaker 1: what happened was pol had got sentenced, right, well, Poem had,

2065
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:10,479
Speaker 1: what's that ship? Gotta diet in? And you know you

2066
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:13,080
Speaker 1: didn't you get sentenced, so you gotta diet it. We

2067
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:20,200
Speaker 1: knew he was gonna get sentenced Poem. He wasn't married

2068
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:24,679
Speaker 1: this time, so Poem was running around sucking everything. God

2069
01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:28,120
Speaker 1: bless him. I would have been sucking anything too. But

2070
01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 1: is that the train coming to so poem me, I'm

2071
01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 1: so happy to be at the left Frac City nine

2072
01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:47,040
Speaker 1: seven days, seven little body apartment. So I'm so happy

2073
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 1: to be out the hood that I'm the first one

2074
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 1: there when the studio is nine o'clock. I'm there at

2075
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:54,400
Speaker 1: seven thirty, Like, I'm so happy. And I got so

2076
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:57,040
Speaker 1: many rhymes that I wrote in jail. I got so many.

2077
01:53:57,479 --> 01:54:01,200
Speaker 1: So one of the rhymes was know this and know

2078
01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:07,360
Speaker 1: that voting Jack because both camera then you know, talking

2079
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:11,160
Speaker 1: about questions, one of my favorite groups. So I'm sitting

2080
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:13,439
Speaker 1: there writing a round and I wrote that up the jail,

2081
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:15,880
Speaker 1: this and don't you know that? So I had the

2082
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:18,200
Speaker 1: ship and I had laid it in Unique Studios. I'll

2083
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:20,560
Speaker 1: never forget it. I had laidership in Unique Studios and

2084
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 1: compone came up. This is when I knew Queensbridge is

2085
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:27,760
Speaker 1: queens Bridge, niggas I got. I gotta relax and from

2086
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 1: left track. So Poe walks in the studio and Poe like, yo,

2087
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:36,400
Speaker 1: this ship is ladyship. Do you know this? I laid

2088
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 1: it off with brand new be and don't let it

2089
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:41,760
Speaker 1: go to you This before brand new bian, I was

2090
01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 1: at my grandmother. She played this record. She played this record,

2091
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 1: don't let it go to your head. So I went

2092
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:49,200
Speaker 1: to east LP. I said, easy, LP, I don't know

2093
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:51,920
Speaker 1: this record is because I don't hard to sampt that

2094
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:55,960
Speaker 1: back then. So I said, he knew exactly the record.

2095
01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:58,960
Speaker 1: He's liked what boom laced the ship up boom. So

2096
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:01,520
Speaker 1: I went in there. So now now let us listen

2097
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:06,320
Speaker 1: to that rhyme and think of that beat this I'm leave, man,

2098
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm leaving. That fits better. What don't let it go?

2099
01:55:12,400 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 1: So Poone walks in. He hears the ship and he's like,

2100
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:19,720
Speaker 1: this is let me let me get my first ready.

2101
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, cool, So this is like

2102
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 1: my first production, like I actually produced this. I told

2103
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 1: them to temple this record and then the homie trash

2104
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:34,840
Speaker 1: walked in. Twelve minutes later. It was like what the

2105
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 1: fuck is this? And I looked because I swore I

2106
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:41,680
Speaker 1: had a hit. Yeah, I looked. He said, we don't

2107
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:49,880
Speaker 1: sample like Puff Daddy, like Havoc. So they scrapped my record.

2108
01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:52,160
Speaker 1: It's the worst day of my life. It's the worst day.

2109
01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:55,200
Speaker 1: I know this is a hit, Bro, I know it,

2110
01:55:55,360 --> 01:56:02,000
Speaker 1: So so do that certain body of that part I noticed,

2111
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:06,000
Speaker 1: say but out voted the Queen's Bridge niggas a went

2112
01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:08,600
Speaker 1: but you held on to it, You held out to it. Yeah,

2113
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:13,800
Speaker 1: that's just true. So so Nas is supposed to be

2114
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 1: on the album. He's on his record called music, Make

2115
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:22,400
Speaker 1: this My brother eat money Bags. It's from my building Avenue,

2116
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:26,840
Speaker 1: Apartment four teen B. I forget, which was way um

2117
01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:30,720
Speaker 1: so me money bags and OS had this record called

2118
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 1: music and his stuffs calmed down. I don't remember if

2119
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:38,840
Speaker 1: how does happened with trash replaced the money Bags versus

2120
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:42,680
Speaker 1: He later verse, I don't know if that's the reason

2121
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 1: why NAS didn't clear it or or I've never got

2122
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:51,560
Speaker 1: the full story. So later on they're saying, you know,

2123
01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:54,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna make it up to you for not being

2124
01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:56,880
Speaker 1: on the War Report that album. That's two big stars

2125
01:56:58,640 --> 01:57:01,920
Speaker 1: and Nas Bro. So we looked like we're the dudes.

2126
01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:04,400
Speaker 1: But we look like the dudes. That's the dudes. It's

2127
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:13,600
Speaker 1: not really, it's like they're Jason. They're on the corner

2128
01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 1: with us. I don't know if they're coming in the

2129
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:24,040
Speaker 1: house then, and I walk. Um. They invite me to Miami, ironically,

2130
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:25,960
Speaker 1: and they said, I we want you to come on

2131
01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 1: the Firm album. This is before they announced the firm,

2132
01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 1: but what the firm was Yeah, So I'm like, yeah,

2133
01:57:30,120 --> 01:57:32,280
Speaker 1: I'll be there. They said, coming to Miami. I said,

2134
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:34,240
Speaker 1: no problem. I'm waiting for them to give me my

2135
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:38,880
Speaker 1: flight info. Flight infoe never came. So no, no, no,

2136
01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 1: they never even told me that. They would have said

2137
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:42,120
Speaker 1: to come up on the wall Martin. But somebody was

2138
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:44,480
Speaker 1: broken the time. This is after the war report. This

2139
01:57:44,520 --> 01:57:47,040
Speaker 1: is a fact. I'm still broke. So I don't keep it.

2140
01:57:47,600 --> 01:57:51,560
Speaker 1: No lies, no, no, no, no, no matter, no malleable nigger.

2141
01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:58,280
Speaker 1: I don't even got I don't even got so. So

2142
01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:02,600
Speaker 1: these nimes hit me and they fly me to l A.

2143
01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 1: And when they fly me too l A, I walk

2144
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:08,520
Speaker 1: in the first session. That's the reason why I'm still

2145
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:12,840
Speaker 1: cool with Nature and I will always be indebted to him.

2146
01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:14,280
Speaker 1: This is the reason why I put him on band

2147
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:17,440
Speaker 1: from TV. First, I walked in the session. It was

2148
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:20,920
Speaker 1: Nature's session, and Nature is a brilliant writer, but he

2149
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:24,800
Speaker 1: just takes three days to right sixteen. Yeah, but he's

2150
01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:29,440
Speaker 1: sixteen that he's gonna take three days. Yeah, crazy Slive

2151
01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:34,560
Speaker 1: is going to this team got fifty seven sixteen, So

2152
01:58:35,760 --> 01:58:40,360
Speaker 1: I don't. And Dr Dre is on the fucking engineer.

2153
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 1: So Dre is waiting for Nature and you look an

2154
01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:46,680
Speaker 1: tell he's wresting. So he's like, this is the reason

2155
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 1: why I always walk with Nature. So he's wrestling, He's like, yo,

2156
01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:54,320
Speaker 1: you're ready name, and so he's like I almost supposed

2157
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:56,560
Speaker 1: to beat and he just switsches to beat and I'm

2158
01:58:56,640 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 1: just going like this and he's just he switched to

2159
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 1: the other beat. He goes boom and then the other beating.

2160
01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it to show up on the corner.

2161
01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:12,240
Speaker 1: I'm like yo, and Dre's like yo, homie yo noriy right.

2162
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, niggas, I'm sorry. Didn't like how you

2163
01:59:16,480 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 1: do drop its going on drops, So I said, yes,

2164
01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm more. He says, he says, you got something for us,

2165
01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:27,680
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at Nate and Nate looking at me,

2166
01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:31,040
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at Nate like, yes, I have something,

2167
01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 1: because you don't want you at your home. And this

2168
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:40,360
Speaker 1: is because I knew what I was gonna do. I

2169
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:44,400
Speaker 1: ain't gonna I had that it I ain't right that damn.

2170
01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:47,360
Speaker 1: I had to said, why did you know that would work?

2171
01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:51,560
Speaker 1: But once I heard the beat, it was not the helicopters,

2172
01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:54,920
Speaker 1: it was the um um I need you to that.

2173
01:59:57,240 --> 01:59:59,640
Speaker 1: That was the first one. So when I came ship,

2174
01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:02,480
Speaker 1: I said, and that ship came out and this is

2175
02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:04,840
Speaker 1: crazy ship. This This is why I knew. I was

2176
02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:10,200
Speaker 1: like really thirsty because I laid the ship perfect Dr Dre.

2177
02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:15,360
Speaker 1: Don't tell nobody it was good. I laid this ship

2178
02:00:15,400 --> 02:00:21,600
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, I came out this before

2179
02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:25,800
Speaker 1: I had knew who drew perfection to see was he said, yo, listen,

2180
02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:31,080
Speaker 1: no one, and I didn't know what I was supposed

2181
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:34,520
Speaker 1: to say. No, yeah, I did hate, so I said word.

2182
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:39,920
Speaker 1: She said, just do it again for arguments sex man,

2183
02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:43,000
Speaker 1: and I laid it again and then he made me

2184
02:00:43,120 --> 02:00:47,320
Speaker 1: late one more time and he told me later and

2185
02:00:47,440 --> 02:00:53,640
Speaker 1: then up people that Blood Money Part two beat so

2186
02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:57,920
Speaker 1: again I don't remember if that was track Masters beat

2187
02:00:58,120 --> 02:01:00,360
Speaker 1: and if there was his beat and he gave masters

2188
02:01:00,440 --> 02:01:03,760
Speaker 1: the credit that was tracks his beating. Well he pulled

2189
02:01:03,800 --> 02:01:05,280
Speaker 1: it up and that's how we got Love Money part

2190
02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:09,160
Speaker 1: to Member Money Parts Nation. That was done during the

2191
02:01:09,240 --> 02:01:13,720
Speaker 1: Firm album during Nature's session. Wow, if I was natured,

2192
02:01:13,920 --> 02:01:16,920
Speaker 1: would if he would have hated on me? I don't

2193
02:01:16,920 --> 02:01:20,960
Speaker 1: even like, why is this left frantic Ship just thinking

2194
02:01:21,080 --> 02:01:23,960
Speaker 1: was one of two records in my session, Like just

2195
02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:26,240
Speaker 1: think about what we were talking about. He don't even

2196
02:01:26,320 --> 02:01:30,640
Speaker 1: know me. I'm man as Nas and Jungle guests. But

2197
02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:32,720
Speaker 1: y'all think it's magic and burg. I think he's made

2198
02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:38,520
Speaker 1: a lot of around. You gotta remember after the first off,

2199
02:01:38,680 --> 02:01:43,280
Speaker 1: this is in between them switching members that they don't

2200
02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:48,880
Speaker 1: know what that is expected and just move on. Yeah,

2201
02:01:49,360 --> 02:01:52,680
Speaker 1: like we were supposed to act like this is he

2202
02:01:52,760 --> 02:01:57,280
Speaker 1: supposed to just act like, you know, you know, like

2203
02:01:57,480 --> 02:02:01,320
Speaker 1: we love Nature. But Nature walked in Ship. But he

2204
02:02:01,400 --> 02:02:04,040
Speaker 1: didn't know at the time. I didn't know at the time.

2205
02:02:04,240 --> 02:02:10,600
Speaker 1: Nobody at the time. They did that with the Fox,

2206
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:13,840
Speaker 1: he joined the lat Familiar. They switched, they switched, they

2207
02:02:13,880 --> 02:02:16,280
Speaker 1: switched the verse. Yeah, but that verse, that's what the

2208
02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:18,360
Speaker 1: thing is up was like then it came out. So

2209
02:02:18,720 --> 02:02:21,440
Speaker 1: when I gets outature and mind you, I'm thinking I'm

2210
02:02:21,480 --> 02:02:24,200
Speaker 1: going back home. No one's never going to hear these records.

2211
02:02:24,320 --> 02:02:26,840
Speaker 1: And guess what, no one's never gonna believe me. I

2212
02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:30,080
Speaker 1: never really told people that Dr Drake did because I

2213
02:02:30,120 --> 02:02:32,000
Speaker 1: was like, who is gonna believe me? Like I went

2214
02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:34,320
Speaker 1: straight back the left frack like it wasn't like I

2215
02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:36,920
Speaker 1: went back and I had a mansion and without the

2216
02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:38,840
Speaker 1: d and the firm, I went straight back to the

2217
02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:40,920
Speaker 1: left frack. And I did not think I was getting paid.

2218
02:02:42,480 --> 02:02:50,680
Speaker 1: So they gave me fifteen bands at that time, the brands,

2219
02:02:52,600 --> 02:02:58,640
Speaker 1: So the record implored it for me. Yeah, And that's

2220
02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:05,120
Speaker 1: initially how me and Tragic Cort Beef because the same

2221
02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:09,280
Speaker 1: record he told me it was whack told me, and

2222
02:03:09,400 --> 02:03:13,360
Speaker 1: then he told my friend Left, who is who is

2223
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:15,000
Speaker 1: the man? Right now? To the left was going on?

2224
02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:17,839
Speaker 1: He told Left, why would he take a CNN record

2225
02:03:18,160 --> 02:03:19,960
Speaker 1: and give it to them niggers that didn't even want

2226
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:23,440
Speaker 1: to be on the CNN's first album. M m mmmm.

2227
02:03:23,800 --> 02:03:25,920
Speaker 1: He had a point, but he was wrong. Let's not

2228
02:03:26,040 --> 02:03:29,920
Speaker 1: forget you told me this record was all right? You

2229
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:34,160
Speaker 1: shut it down? You shut it down, that's trash. I

2230
02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:35,920
Speaker 1: don't want to seem like I'm because I'm not backing

2231
02:03:36,040 --> 02:03:38,920
Speaker 1: it at all, and no way shaped fashion for my fashion.

2232
02:03:39,200 --> 02:03:41,280
Speaker 1: But also I'm telling my side of the story. This

2233
02:03:41,320 --> 02:03:45,040
Speaker 1: is how I sort of time and that record I'm

2234
02:03:45,120 --> 02:03:48,640
Speaker 1: leaving is what made Nori so. So I was asking

2235
02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:50,720
Speaker 1: you a question. The thing was, I was a big

2236
02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:54,320
Speaker 1: Fife Dog fan, one of the biggest Fife Dog fans.

2237
02:03:54,840 --> 02:03:56,560
Speaker 1: And when I met five Dog, he was a little

2238
02:03:56,680 --> 02:03:59,360
Speaker 1: like like a little like nasty to me. But pauls

2239
02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 1: it because he was like, he was like, yo, I

2240
02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:04,520
Speaker 1: think you kind of nice. So I'm not going to

2241
02:04:04,760 --> 02:04:08,600
Speaker 1: trying to be your friend friends because I didn't know,

2242
02:04:08,760 --> 02:04:12,000
Speaker 1: Like that's how like rappers think, like boxes don't want

2243
02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:15,600
Speaker 1: to be your friend boxing meet another box, like what's up? Year? Yeah,

2244
02:04:15,680 --> 02:04:19,160
Speaker 1: I might have to suck you up one day? So yeah,

2245
02:04:19,480 --> 02:04:21,640
Speaker 1: so whf I think that? To me, I was like, Okay,

2246
02:04:21,720 --> 02:04:23,920
Speaker 1: this this, this was this was dope. So that's that's

2247
02:04:23,960 --> 02:04:26,520
Speaker 1: how I eventually and if it wasn't for that record,

2248
02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:28,160
Speaker 1: I told that tons and a lot of people thought

2249
02:04:28,560 --> 02:04:30,560
Speaker 1: I was what was that when you nailed in front

2250
02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:34,120
Speaker 1: of did you know you? I didn't know. I didn't know,

2251
02:04:34,280 --> 02:04:38,120
Speaker 1: so I've seen the documentary on Defiant ones and and

2252
02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:40,640
Speaker 1: and people telling me how difficult Dr Dre is, and

2253
02:04:40,720 --> 02:04:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, nig I nailed the first one. But then

2254
02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:48,160
Speaker 1: I also remember I was hungry, like I was starving.

2255
02:04:48,240 --> 02:04:52,320
Speaker 1: But you feel like when that friend comes out, that's

2256
02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:55,800
Speaker 1: the that's the track. Actually know what trapped? I thought

2257
02:04:55,880 --> 02:04:59,120
Speaker 1: was gonna be it. You came up, that was a

2258
02:04:59,200 --> 02:05:01,600
Speaker 1: good song. But if it wasn't for the firm you

2259
02:05:01,720 --> 02:05:06,360
Speaker 1: came up with it worked, hit me out and I

2260
02:05:06,360 --> 02:05:08,160
Speaker 1: would switch it back to yas. I wanted to be

2261
02:05:08,240 --> 02:05:10,160
Speaker 1: my interview of course, um, but to hit me out

2262
02:05:10,480 --> 02:05:15,400
Speaker 1: there was the thing was the Firm has so much

2263
02:05:16,440 --> 02:05:19,000
Speaker 1: looking on him. Not because of the Firm, but because

2264
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:24,320
Speaker 1: of that was Dr Dre's next project after the Aftermath, definitely,

2265
02:05:25,200 --> 02:05:29,000
Speaker 1: So it was so much that so whatever it was

2266
02:05:29,080 --> 02:05:32,640
Speaker 1: on and me, you gotta realize, this is some queen's

2267
02:05:32,680 --> 02:05:36,160
Speaker 1: secret ship. Nas and Jungle was giving me love because

2268
02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:38,960
Speaker 1: they felt like they wronged me on the war report

2269
02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:42,040
Speaker 1: and they felt like they missed the opportunity. They couldn't

2270
02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:44,840
Speaker 1: come back and say here goes this record. We those

2271
02:05:44,920 --> 02:05:47,800
Speaker 1: those ideas wasn't invented, Like now you get get a

2272
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:51,600
Speaker 1: new record, new that didn't start charging. Back then, no

2273
02:05:51,720 --> 02:05:53,480
Speaker 1: one thought of that, so they were just trying to

2274
02:05:54,520 --> 02:05:57,200
Speaker 1: write that wrong. But if it wasn't for that record,

2275
02:05:58,200 --> 02:06:02,680
Speaker 1: that record opened up everybody. Everybody remember that and then

2276
02:06:02,760 --> 02:06:09,800
Speaker 1: but actually recorded you came up first? What punt? What

2277
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:12,400
Speaker 1: pun first? And it's the first time I've ever seen

2278
02:06:14,200 --> 02:06:18,160
Speaker 1: like like like niggas had a food budget, Like I

2279
02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:20,440
Speaker 1: didn't know that. I didn't know, Like he came in

2280
02:06:20,640 --> 02:06:23,280
Speaker 1: with a food budget that's crazy, like he would or

2281
02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:26,400
Speaker 1: the twenty five pizzas and I'm like, yo, puns, it's

2282
02:06:26,440 --> 02:06:40,280
Speaker 1: four of us. So so I this industry, Yeah, there's

2283
02:06:40,360 --> 02:06:49,120
Speaker 1: so much ups and downs in between sideways when you

2284
02:06:49,280 --> 02:06:51,680
Speaker 1: interview an artists and think you did a great job,

2285
02:06:52,840 --> 02:06:56,440
Speaker 1: but you gave your honest opinion and these artists are

2286
02:06:56,560 --> 02:07:02,320
Speaker 1: not satisfied. How do you how do you remedied time?

2287
02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:06,440
Speaker 1: It's almost like if you with your girl. You know

2288
02:07:06,480 --> 02:07:08,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you don't give us some space

2289
02:07:08,880 --> 02:07:11,240
Speaker 1: and you know eventually they'll come back around. I mean

2290
02:07:11,280 --> 02:07:12,520
Speaker 1: that's all. You can't do it the end of the day.

2291
02:07:12,520 --> 02:07:15,200
Speaker 1: We're all grown man, man and women. We're adults. So

2292
02:07:15,520 --> 02:07:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's like you know you'll get over it.

2293
02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:21,400
Speaker 1: You will will come back to you eventually. I think

2294
02:07:21,400 --> 02:07:25,080
Speaker 1: that's the best. But absolutely stay hot with you. Ever

2295
02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:28,680
Speaker 1: wished you said something that you didn't wish you said? No,

2296
02:07:29,000 --> 02:07:31,280
Speaker 1: what happens to actually the opposite. There's things that after

2297
02:07:31,320 --> 02:07:34,000
Speaker 1: the interview, like, damn, forgot to say that. You know

2298
02:07:34,040 --> 02:07:37,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that the biggest question I've missed the

2299
02:07:38,000 --> 02:07:40,760
Speaker 1: acts was how do you feel about utles? As I

2300
02:07:40,840 --> 02:07:45,520
Speaker 1: didn't care about question I didn't care about. Yeah. When

2301
02:07:45,560 --> 02:07:47,200
Speaker 1: I finished, I was like, damn because I had the

2302
02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:49,880
Speaker 1: ship wrote down ye, but yeah, we always do that.

2303
02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:51,680
Speaker 1: We do the most great energy. Were like, damn, we

2304
02:07:51,720 --> 02:07:54,560
Speaker 1: didn't ask the funk. That was the woman missed. So

2305
02:07:54,640 --> 02:07:57,720
Speaker 1: that's the thing that's the biggest thing. Damn it. Goddamn man,

2306
02:07:57,760 --> 02:08:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm so happy. I'm so happy to have y'all love. Yeah.

2307
02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:11,160
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something y'all taught me. I mean, well, Elliott,

2308
02:08:11,200 --> 02:08:14,720
Speaker 1: you taught me um uh competition and the thing about

2309
02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:18,480
Speaker 1: it now, But you know what, I still take that.

2310
02:08:18,520 --> 02:08:20,960
Speaker 1: I still taking the heat because the thing about it

2311
02:08:21,200 --> 02:08:24,440
Speaker 1: is wanting to be great have to do with wanting

2312
02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:27,880
Speaker 1: to be your greatest self, not who you're battling because

2313
02:08:27,960 --> 02:08:30,360
Speaker 1: if if I'm sitting here trying to be better than you,

2314
02:08:30,840 --> 02:08:34,600
Speaker 1: then then what happens if my true self is better

2315
02:08:34,680 --> 02:08:37,200
Speaker 1: than that, So I might as well just be a

2316
02:08:37,240 --> 02:08:40,280
Speaker 1: better version of me. It doesn't matter who if. So

2317
02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:43,360
Speaker 1: that's the reason why I love that we're all in

2318
02:08:43,440 --> 02:08:45,760
Speaker 1: our own I believe you said it one time. I said,

2319
02:08:45,880 --> 02:08:48,360
Speaker 1: I think you said on Twitter you said drink champs

2320
02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:50,480
Speaker 1: were like the sixty Minutes and drink Champions like the

2321
02:08:50,520 --> 02:08:57,800
Speaker 1: Howard Sterns like accause it's different experiences, you know what

2322
02:08:57,800 --> 02:09:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like celebrity on I want to see norionas

2323
02:09:02,640 --> 02:09:05,600
Speaker 1: have a conversation. I was gonna be a fly on

2324
02:09:05,680 --> 02:09:07,680
Speaker 1: the wall appreciate you know, like like I always say,

2325
02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:09,680
Speaker 1: I had both of your pictures on all. So it's

2326
02:09:09,720 --> 02:09:13,880
Speaker 1: a different approach. I'm more so as a fan, you know,

2327
02:09:14,160 --> 02:09:16,800
Speaker 1: a different perspective of a fan than you are talking to.

2328
02:09:17,360 --> 02:09:19,120
Speaker 1: But but you know what you taught me that brother,

2329
02:09:19,240 --> 02:09:21,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you when you said that to me,

2330
02:09:21,480 --> 02:09:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. We were twitter arguing that Twitter fingers.

2331
02:09:26,440 --> 02:09:30,000
Speaker 1: It's just it's just it's competitive nation. But when he

2332
02:09:30,080 --> 02:09:34,640
Speaker 1: said no, no, listen, listen, he said he said, the

2333
02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:39,160
Speaker 1: difference is we're really fans. And I couldn't argue with that.

2334
02:09:39,600 --> 02:09:43,760
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, I don't care about he said the differences,

2335
02:09:44,040 --> 02:09:46,880
Speaker 1: we're really fans. And the thing was, I hadn't stop

2336
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:48,480
Speaker 1: when I had to thick. You know when somebody hit

2337
02:09:48,520 --> 02:09:51,560
Speaker 1: you with yourth said earlier like it almost it almost

2338
02:09:51,680 --> 02:09:54,400
Speaker 1: tastes wrong, but when you put it in your mouth, pause,

2339
02:09:54,880 --> 02:09:58,080
Speaker 1: it tastes good. It's said, you know what, this might

2340
02:09:58,160 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 1: be the truth. Yea, this might be the So you

2341
02:10:00,440 --> 02:10:02,000
Speaker 1: know what I had to do. I swear to god

2342
02:10:02,040 --> 02:10:05,040
Speaker 1: I had stopped. I stopped doing shows. I don't know what.

2343
02:10:05,680 --> 02:10:07,760
Speaker 1: You know, how you look at this pop, go back

2344
02:10:07,800 --> 02:10:10,440
Speaker 1: to the toy, look at the finances and say, well,

2345
02:10:10,520 --> 02:10:13,080
Speaker 1: what am I doing? All Right? If I don't need it,

2346
02:10:13,480 --> 02:10:17,240
Speaker 1: then focus on what is working. So because I was

2347
02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:19,640
Speaker 1: gonna be seven niggas at once, I was gonna be

2348
02:10:19,720 --> 02:10:21,600
Speaker 1: the rapper. I was gonna be up. But then I said,

2349
02:10:21,640 --> 02:10:24,360
Speaker 1: you know what? But then I said, uh, And I

2350
02:10:24,520 --> 02:10:28,080
Speaker 1: was trying to cater towards y'all style, or cater towards

2351
02:10:28,120 --> 02:10:33,320
Speaker 1: a Swede or Rob Marksman or Mike or bog Zilla

2352
02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:42,920
Speaker 1: a wall mikey Fresh said Mikey fresh Uh, Charlotte Maagne,

2353
02:10:43,320 --> 02:10:46,280
Speaker 1: and I said, you know what the crazy shit about

2354
02:10:46,320 --> 02:10:49,200
Speaker 1: all you dudes is, I'm glad I can't do your

2355
02:10:49,320 --> 02:10:52,680
Speaker 1: job because you're good at your job. And y'all exactly

2356
02:10:52,760 --> 02:10:55,440
Speaker 1: what the thing is. I have to emphasize on being

2357
02:10:55,480 --> 02:10:59,880
Speaker 1: an entertainer, not a journalist. Journalist comes with me being

2358
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:02,880
Speaker 1: to entertain. The entertaining you guys are having certain notes

2359
02:11:03,080 --> 02:11:04,560
Speaker 1: and certain times I don't even have to look at

2360
02:11:04,600 --> 02:11:06,840
Speaker 1: the notes because I just would rather be organic with

2361
02:11:06,920 --> 02:11:09,960
Speaker 1: you guys. But yeah, that's where I knew I messed

2362
02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:12,720
Speaker 1: up when I was trying to entertain with you. I said,

2363
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean I was trying to be a journalist with

2364
02:11:14,640 --> 02:11:17,560
Speaker 1: you guys. That that that that that doesn't that's not

2365
02:11:17,640 --> 02:11:19,360
Speaker 1: where we are. He's a d j im a rapper,

2366
02:11:20,080 --> 02:11:24,480
Speaker 1: so always keep it from DJ and a rapper. And

2367
02:11:24,600 --> 02:11:27,880
Speaker 1: that's when I said, I said, you know what, everybody

2368
02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:31,520
Speaker 1: could eat their own fruit. No one needs to. I

2369
02:11:31,560 --> 02:11:37,280
Speaker 1: don't need to, Like, no, we don't. I don't. I

2370
02:11:37,360 --> 02:11:40,600
Speaker 1: didn't at first because I'm being honest with y'all, especially

2371
02:11:40,680 --> 02:11:43,280
Speaker 1: in front of your face. At one point, I was

2372
02:11:43,360 --> 02:11:46,120
Speaker 1: trying to cater towards y'all style. I said, you know what,

2373
02:11:46,240 --> 02:11:48,280
Speaker 1: let me try to cater towards their style. Then I

2374
02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:50,600
Speaker 1: looked at Charlotte Maine and I said, you know what,

2375
02:11:50,720 --> 02:11:53,080
Speaker 1: that's not gonna work for me. Um because the way

2376
02:11:53,200 --> 02:11:55,520
Speaker 1: Charlotte Magne how he asked it, he's not gonna work

2377
02:11:55,560 --> 02:11:57,760
Speaker 1: from just that's my boy, That's not gonna work for me.

2378
02:11:57,920 --> 02:12:00,920
Speaker 1: And then I looked at Joe. But Joe and c

2379
02:12:01,120 --> 02:12:03,480
Speaker 1: Joe Budden style is more or less talking about you

2380
02:12:03,560 --> 02:12:06,160
Speaker 1: when you're not around. That's not my job. My job

2381
02:12:06,240 --> 02:12:07,760
Speaker 1: is to talk about you when you are around. So

2382
02:12:07,840 --> 02:12:11,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't use his neither. So I'm searching for the dudes.

2383
02:12:11,520 --> 02:12:15,720
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Sausage Jenkins old interview. I'm trying to voice.

2384
02:12:15,720 --> 02:12:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying to really get good. And what I realized

2385
02:12:18,040 --> 02:12:21,040
Speaker 1: my voice was already my voice. Yeah, don't try to

2386
02:12:21,120 --> 02:12:23,400
Speaker 1: be don't try to be a second coming of nobody,

2387
02:12:23,760 --> 02:12:26,080
Speaker 1: be who to be a second coming of r E

2388
02:12:26,520 --> 02:12:30,360
Speaker 1: be r e as as a motherfucking media guy. And

2389
02:12:30,520 --> 02:12:39,560
Speaker 1: I found my voice. Got damn so now working for MTV.

2390
02:12:39,760 --> 02:12:44,000
Speaker 1: All right now, now jay Z drops the album tomorrow.

2391
02:12:44,200 --> 02:12:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah it's trash, okay, impossible. Look at that that's the

2392
02:12:53,280 --> 02:12:55,320
Speaker 1: other biggest jay Z fan in the world. You know,

2393
02:12:55,360 --> 02:12:57,160
Speaker 1: I always have arguments with him just to just to

2394
02:12:57,200 --> 02:13:02,440
Speaker 1: get Piste off. But let's that's both. You know Jay,

2395
02:13:02,480 --> 02:13:07,400
Speaker 1: he's growing on his break. Yeah, he wants to do

2396
02:13:07,480 --> 02:13:12,160
Speaker 1: a reggae album. Times not talking about him, that's not

2397
02:13:12,280 --> 02:13:18,680
Speaker 1: talking about out of it O wo think it goes

2398
02:13:18,760 --> 02:13:22,360
Speaker 1: out does a reggae album. He geld gold front from

2399
02:13:22,480 --> 02:13:28,080
Speaker 1: Johnny Dang reggae colors. This nigga I'm hold for you said,

2400
02:13:33,320 --> 02:13:37,560
Speaker 1: do you tell home this? Just try? Do you let

2401
02:13:37,640 --> 02:13:42,560
Speaker 1: it come out? He's gonna go this is gonna feel it,

2402
02:13:42,760 --> 02:13:45,120
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna be the guy to be the bad cop.

2403
02:13:45,720 --> 02:13:48,760
Speaker 1: He's gonna play it for you prior to coming up. Yeah, okay,

2404
02:13:52,280 --> 02:13:58,040
Speaker 1: remember he got right now. So he's in the rap

2405
02:13:58,120 --> 02:14:02,560
Speaker 1: Radar mansion. Let's just let's just stay inut. You're staying.

2406
02:14:03,720 --> 02:14:06,240
Speaker 1: You're a mallible rap radar matching the new rap Radar

2407
02:14:06,280 --> 02:14:09,840
Speaker 1: matching the mallible bol comes in and you know from

2408
02:14:09,920 --> 02:14:14,440
Speaker 1: his swag he just left Kingston because he walked a

2409
02:14:14,520 --> 02:14:22,480
Speaker 1: certain certain I don't know why he has a take

2410
02:14:22,520 --> 02:14:24,640
Speaker 1: a set, but he has a take a set, Okay,

2411
02:14:24,880 --> 02:14:29,560
Speaker 1: and he puts it and you guys are listening, Lion,

2412
02:14:29,720 --> 02:14:34,320
Speaker 1: this is the greatest rapper all the time. Now start bottling.

2413
02:14:34,440 --> 02:14:38,760
Speaker 1: He's also a guy who cuts the checks. How did

2414
02:14:38,840 --> 02:14:43,120
Speaker 1: you tell the Y'allah this is not it? You kind

2415
02:14:43,120 --> 02:14:56,520
Speaker 1: of relax, you can tell him think about it's great

2416
02:14:56,520 --> 02:14:59,360
Speaker 1: about James. He was like, you know what you're talking about?

2417
02:14:59,600 --> 02:15:02,120
Speaker 1: You back the real ship, Like so it's not about

2418
02:15:02,160 --> 02:15:04,200
Speaker 1: like nobody can tell him it's not the right thing.

2419
02:15:04,360 --> 02:15:06,680
Speaker 1: But you know, I think you had that one stupid

2420
02:15:06,680 --> 02:15:08,720
Speaker 1: like one stupid to the whole Snoop Lion this ship.

2421
02:15:08,920 --> 02:15:10,720
Speaker 1: I was like, I wasn't I didn't connect. You wasn't

2422
02:15:10,760 --> 02:15:18,840
Speaker 1: feeling a realcarnation. I was not stupid stupe lion. I

2423
02:15:18,920 --> 02:15:23,040
Speaker 1: went out on some real ants ship. But I didn't

2424
02:15:23,040 --> 02:15:25,040
Speaker 1: even all these years, I didn't really knew stop dog

2425
02:15:25,240 --> 02:15:27,280
Speaker 1: and now dog me like real cool. But it's like

2426
02:15:27,440 --> 02:15:31,080
Speaker 1: he knows I didn't work with the Snoop Lion. Ja

2427
02:15:31,400 --> 02:15:37,560
Speaker 1: tak Yeah, that was that's not a class with j class.

2428
02:15:38,080 --> 02:15:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you brought that up. That's a classic. That

2429
02:15:40,160 --> 02:15:41,760
Speaker 1: was his first that was that was that's my reggae,

2430
02:15:43,120 --> 02:15:44,720
Speaker 1: Like I think it come to the game. Some don't

2431
02:15:44,720 --> 02:15:47,640
Speaker 1: get their props about reggae tone. I always get mad

2432
02:15:47,680 --> 02:15:50,200
Speaker 1: because people get at you because no, I did reggae tone.

2433
02:15:50,560 --> 02:16:00,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't bad. And now look at everybody. Never give me,

2434
02:16:00,920 --> 02:16:07,440
Speaker 1: don't get look now, everybody, listen, listen, listen. I lost

2435
02:16:07,720 --> 02:16:15,040
Speaker 1: my whole when I listen. My friend, I told you,

2436
02:16:15,160 --> 02:16:20,080
Speaker 1: I'll get you next. One of my first fat Joe,

2437
02:16:20,320 --> 02:16:27,600
Speaker 1: called me and said, really stop it right now, buck,

2438
02:16:27,640 --> 02:16:32,800
Speaker 1: these guys do not continue with this my other friends.

2439
02:16:32,840 --> 02:16:35,000
Speaker 1: So the left of me walked in the room and said,

2440
02:16:35,240 --> 02:16:37,120
Speaker 1: I don't poke with that ship. That's the way it

2441
02:16:37,160 --> 02:16:39,920
Speaker 1: happened in my mind. I went to I went to

2442
02:16:40,080 --> 02:16:44,520
Speaker 1: her laughs. I was hanging out New York. I was filming.

2443
02:16:44,640 --> 02:16:46,760
Speaker 1: He was always filming. And then you did a verse

2444
02:16:46,840 --> 02:16:55,720
Speaker 1: and it sounded to this gig. And when I turned

2445
02:16:55,720 --> 02:16:59,920
Speaker 1: the carmes enough to think it was just a product

2446
02:17:00,120 --> 02:17:04,040
Speaker 1: bad timing, definitely, you know what, you know, you know what,

2447
02:17:04,640 --> 02:17:08,280
Speaker 1: it's so bad to pack myself on the back. But

2448
02:17:08,400 --> 02:17:12,360
Speaker 1: I was ahead of my time that the thing was.

2449
02:17:12,720 --> 02:17:15,800
Speaker 1: I went we was bad from Hot nighty seven right

2450
02:17:19,400 --> 02:17:23,000
Speaker 1: in front of the building started a radio station. I

2451
02:17:23,120 --> 02:17:27,000
Speaker 1: was not there, by the way, but I was going

2452
02:17:27,080 --> 02:17:35,720
Speaker 1: to Supress, the highway that traffic Honoday seven And the

2453
02:17:35,800 --> 02:17:39,440
Speaker 1: only way that could reintroduce us was through this reggae thing.

2454
02:17:40,760 --> 02:17:43,400
Speaker 1: So we did a record with Rain Wonder and Lexus

2455
02:17:44,680 --> 02:17:47,520
Speaker 1: Girl you want to take My life. You look Jamaica,

2456
02:17:47,560 --> 02:17:52,920
Speaker 1: look at you, look at you. So so that was

2457
02:17:53,000 --> 02:17:56,200
Speaker 1: how they started to reintroduce us. So I knew when

2458
02:17:56,240 --> 02:17:58,760
Speaker 1: I got to Jamaica, I loved this album. It was

2459
02:17:58,840 --> 02:18:02,760
Speaker 1: just one problem, this just isn't my island. I love

2460
02:18:02,840 --> 02:18:06,480
Speaker 1: the island life. Jamaica taught me the island life. I

2461
02:18:06,640 --> 02:18:10,640
Speaker 1: just knew that a part of me belonged somewhere else.

2462
02:18:10,800 --> 02:18:14,000
Speaker 1: The island life period Jamaica taught me like that was

2463
02:18:14,080 --> 02:18:16,320
Speaker 1: the first time I said, you know what, I'm gonna

2464
02:18:16,400 --> 02:18:17,880
Speaker 1: fall in love with the island. But I just knew

2465
02:18:17,920 --> 02:18:20,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't myns. So I had to go to mind

2466
02:18:21,440 --> 02:18:24,280
Speaker 1: and I winded up in Puerto Rico. And when I

2467
02:18:24,360 --> 02:18:27,600
Speaker 1: winded up in Puerto Rico, I found this amazing music

2468
02:18:28,760 --> 02:18:32,240
Speaker 1: that yeah, no one funcked with in America. So I

2469
02:18:32,360 --> 02:18:34,920
Speaker 1: got back to and I couldn't believe DJ or nothing

2470
02:18:34,959 --> 02:18:37,480
Speaker 1: and commit long and these guys wasn't playing it. But

2471
02:18:37,560 --> 02:18:39,320
Speaker 1: I looked like a hit to them when I'm saying that,

2472
02:18:39,400 --> 02:18:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you're gonna play. You gotta play, daddy Yankee.

2473
02:18:42,200 --> 02:18:53,160
Speaker 1: They're like dad yo, this guy like there you go,

2474
02:18:53,840 --> 02:18:56,600
Speaker 1: and then don't know more. They're like these names are

2475
02:18:56,800 --> 02:19:03,040
Speaker 1: wow and at that time the name sound but you know,

2476
02:19:04,000 --> 02:19:05,560
Speaker 1: you know why I saw it with a roll and

2477
02:19:05,800 --> 02:19:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I've brung for Route

2478
02:19:08,720 --> 02:19:11,640
Speaker 1: to J. I bron for Route to N And they

2479
02:19:11,720 --> 02:19:14,840
Speaker 1: both had the similar story. One act why his shirt

2480
02:19:14,959 --> 02:19:17,279
Speaker 1: was so tight and the other acts why his choker

2481
02:19:17,400 --> 02:19:21,120
Speaker 1: was so tight. Forget which what which one was? What?

2482
02:19:21,800 --> 02:19:24,520
Speaker 1: But then two years later after oh No, because remember

2483
02:19:25,080 --> 02:19:27,200
Speaker 1: Corolla didn't just blow up after Super Dogs, a lot

2484
02:19:27,240 --> 02:19:30,640
Speaker 1: of people think that what what what came out of here? People?

2485
02:19:30,920 --> 02:19:33,760
Speaker 1: People thought we were both lucky. People didn't rush for

2486
02:19:34,160 --> 02:19:36,800
Speaker 1: at first. People were like okay, and then oh No

2487
02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:39,760
Speaker 1: came out. Then that's when Mrical came with Black You ask,

2488
02:19:40,560 --> 02:19:43,480
Speaker 1: so Msica was the first one and then the big

2489
02:19:43,600 --> 02:19:46,480
Speaker 1: dogs came. But I don't know all over the place

2490
02:19:50,120 --> 02:19:52,520
Speaker 1: because I went to Puerto Rico years before it popped

2491
02:19:52,560 --> 02:19:57,520
Speaker 1: off here. Yeah, this is my my my perspective on

2492
02:19:57,640 --> 02:20:01,080
Speaker 1: it being Latino like here When I was doing my stuff,

2493
02:20:01,080 --> 02:20:02,640
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, oh, you don't do no letter up now

2494
02:20:02,680 --> 02:20:04,600
Speaker 1: I speaking. I don't. I was born in America. I

2495
02:20:04,640 --> 02:20:07,320
Speaker 1: don't speak Spanish. But then I went to Puerto Rico

2496
02:20:07,480 --> 02:20:10,080
Speaker 1: and they was doing straight up hip hop in Spanish

2497
02:20:11,080 --> 02:20:13,400
Speaker 1: and my boy Echo shout out to produce a big

2498
02:20:13,680 --> 02:20:16,200
Speaker 1: reggaetone producer as well. He took me to a spot

2499
02:20:16,680 --> 02:20:20,680
Speaker 1: and it was Aga and all I could see was murder.

2500
02:20:20,760 --> 02:20:27,039
Speaker 1: She wrote looped, that's it. He's Spanish, that's all wrote

2501
02:20:27,160 --> 02:20:32,600
Speaker 1: flex This whack as but everybody's dancing. But I said,

2502
02:20:32,640 --> 02:20:35,080
Speaker 1: this is whack. And then my boy tells me this

2503
02:20:35,280 --> 02:20:37,840
Speaker 1: is gonna take over the United States. I said, brother,

2504
02:20:38,080 --> 02:20:39,960
Speaker 1: they don't speak Spanish in the United States like that.

2505
02:20:40,320 --> 02:20:42,560
Speaker 1: If it wasn't take it over, what's my hip hop

2506
02:20:42,680 --> 02:20:44,400
Speaker 1: woun't be no reggae? What's what reggade would be? No

2507
02:20:44,440 --> 02:20:49,760
Speaker 1: reggae reggae don you won't have Joe, you won't have

2508
02:20:50,000 --> 02:20:53,200
Speaker 1: none of that. Have a real quick This is this

2509
02:20:53,320 --> 02:20:56,840
Speaker 1: is my opinion on for all oats. It became an

2510
02:20:56,879 --> 02:21:00,600
Speaker 1: economic thing because all the big regga donadoes in the

2511
02:21:00,680 --> 02:21:05,640
Speaker 1: beginning that Yankee they don't they're ill lyricists in Spanish

2512
02:21:06,720 --> 02:21:09,840
Speaker 1: doing boom back in span we what he was in

2513
02:21:09,920 --> 02:21:12,400
Speaker 1: the beginning? Who ate wasn't Dad? Yankee's name was Winchester

2514
02:21:12,560 --> 02:21:15,480
Speaker 1: and he was That's what he was, Tony Touch mixtape,

2515
02:21:15,560 --> 02:21:17,520
Speaker 1: That's what he was. What I'm trying to say, is

2516
02:21:17,560 --> 02:21:22,720
Speaker 1: this the tourist side of the island or the country.

2517
02:21:22,760 --> 02:21:25,120
Speaker 1: And wherever they went in Latin America, they wanted to

2518
02:21:25,200 --> 02:21:28,200
Speaker 1: hear reggae. That's the dance you need, dance music, and

2519
02:21:28,280 --> 02:21:30,840
Speaker 1: there was like, oh ship. It started in Puerto Rico,

2520
02:21:30,920 --> 02:21:33,680
Speaker 1: and then it started to spread. It became an economic thing.

2521
02:21:33,800 --> 02:21:36,279
Speaker 1: So when I travel these different countries, there's a battle

2522
02:21:36,560 --> 02:21:40,039
Speaker 1: in Latin America versus hip hop and they get thrown.

2523
02:21:40,120 --> 02:21:41,800
Speaker 1: And now the trap music, which is kind of like

2524
02:21:42,600 --> 02:21:45,400
Speaker 1: don't mimicking you know a different thing, and it's an

2525
02:21:45,440 --> 02:21:48,480
Speaker 1: economic thing versus art form, and it's like a battle

2526
02:21:48,560 --> 02:21:51,280
Speaker 1: versus you know what we talk about all day every day,

2527
02:21:51,400 --> 02:21:54,600
Speaker 1: hip hop, boom bad versus this, and that's what's going on.

2528
02:21:54,760 --> 02:21:56,760
Speaker 1: That's the beauty of that. Nor being a pie and

2529
02:21:56,800 --> 02:21:59,160
Speaker 1: they're like Kanso was playing somewhere right now. It's like

2530
02:21:59,240 --> 02:22:03,400
Speaker 1: I love Lucy, Oh, let's play somewhere. I need a brag. Okay,

2531
02:22:07,800 --> 02:22:12,039
Speaker 1: let me just tell you something. Um, um, you gotta

2532
02:22:12,080 --> 02:22:15,080
Speaker 1: tell it. Tell you guys down story without what because

2533
02:22:15,080 --> 02:22:17,480
Speaker 1: I don't think you've ever really told it that it

2534
02:22:17,560 --> 02:22:21,039
Speaker 1: was a mixtape version. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna save

2535
02:22:21,080 --> 02:22:25,080
Speaker 1: it for Latin, Latin version. We're gonna keep we gonna

2536
02:22:25,120 --> 02:22:27,400
Speaker 1: keep it here. We're gonna keep it here. Weren't keep

2537
02:22:27,400 --> 02:22:29,880
Speaker 1: it head. We're gonna keep it here this context. So

2538
02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:33,920
Speaker 1: you guys smoke champs. Yeah, yes, that's what it is.

2539
02:22:36,360 --> 02:22:40,359
Speaker 1: The smoke you guys leave you guys. You guys contract

2540
02:22:41,040 --> 02:22:45,080
Speaker 1: with CBS. Yeah, CBS. You guys, contract is going up

2541
02:22:45,120 --> 02:22:49,480
Speaker 1: with CBS. I like, he's focused. How do we figure

2542
02:22:49,520 --> 02:22:53,160
Speaker 1: out we're going to keep it cultural and stay with

2543
02:22:53,280 --> 02:22:55,480
Speaker 1: the culture, because you guys, blew up. You just had

2544
02:22:55,520 --> 02:22:58,800
Speaker 1: the Jay Z interview. You just had the Will Smith interview. Technically,

2545
02:22:59,160 --> 02:23:02,760
Speaker 1: just over those two interviews alone and countless of other

2546
02:23:02,800 --> 02:23:06,880
Speaker 1: classic interviews, but those two interviews alone, anybody will come

2547
02:23:06,920 --> 02:23:08,800
Speaker 1: and say, I would like to buy this content. I

2548
02:23:08,840 --> 02:23:11,600
Speaker 1: would like that. How do you choose title? But that

2549
02:23:11,760 --> 02:23:14,640
Speaker 1: those episodes were on title and I see this contract

2550
02:23:14,720 --> 02:23:16,879
Speaker 1: was coming to a close or whatever. The terms were

2551
02:23:16,920 --> 02:23:19,840
Speaker 1: and Elliot was just like just felt different, like the

2552
02:23:19,920 --> 02:23:26,440
Speaker 1: money was just too inconsistent something they got at the time.

2553
02:23:27,600 --> 02:23:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm thankful right they wanted it. Though. Remember when we

2554
02:23:32,480 --> 02:23:35,200
Speaker 1: kept going whatever money we were getting, I was happy, like,

2555
02:23:35,400 --> 02:23:38,959
Speaker 1: if you give me a nickel nickel, but Elliott saw

2556
02:23:38,959 --> 02:23:40,880
Speaker 1: a dollar and I was like, yo, it's cool with

2557
02:23:40,920 --> 02:23:43,720
Speaker 1: this nickel. But I guess title he had a new

2558
02:23:43,800 --> 02:23:45,680
Speaker 1: situation over there, and I think I want to bring

2559
02:23:45,720 --> 02:23:49,160
Speaker 1: it over there. And it was because we gotta blow

2560
02:23:49,240 --> 02:23:51,040
Speaker 1: tight up. Because the thing about it is we all

2561
02:23:51,120 --> 02:23:55,280
Speaker 1: had an apple. We all have apple, and and I

2562
02:23:55,360 --> 02:23:57,480
Speaker 1: said this, I said this before, and I don't want

2563
02:23:57,520 --> 02:23:59,400
Speaker 1: people to think this is a racial thing when we

2564
02:23:59,520 --> 02:24:01,760
Speaker 1: love all the because because you know, you know, um,

2565
02:24:01,840 --> 02:24:09,200
Speaker 1: I love Larry Jackson over at Apples called cherry love

2566
02:24:09,840 --> 02:24:15,200
Speaker 1: to all my people. But the thing is, when I

2567
02:24:15,320 --> 02:24:17,960
Speaker 1: say this, I'm not saying this this in their positions

2568
02:24:18,000 --> 02:24:21,320
Speaker 1: or audition, this in the companies they work for. But

2569
02:24:21,400 --> 02:24:23,360
Speaker 1: I like the fact that I can I could hit home.

2570
02:24:24,640 --> 02:24:26,920
Speaker 1: I like the records with this guy. I like that

2571
02:24:26,920 --> 02:24:29,039
Speaker 1: I did one record with him. It was all Kelly record.

2572
02:24:29,040 --> 02:24:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm not proud of it. I like I like you know,

2573
02:24:36,840 --> 02:24:38,680
Speaker 1: I like, you know, um, I about to say, I like,

2574
02:24:38,760 --> 02:24:42,400
Speaker 1: all Kelly, you got me up. You pick up the

2575
02:24:42,440 --> 02:24:47,960
Speaker 1: shot papers, all nice, big up to my people. Shot papers.

2576
02:24:47,959 --> 02:24:51,879
Speaker 1: You know what we're doing it and what the smoke channel?

2577
02:24:51,920 --> 02:24:54,280
Speaker 1: To make sure you what was I talking about? Come on?

2578
02:24:54,320 --> 02:24:57,200
Speaker 1: I was. I was into that, I said, jay Z

2579
02:24:57,440 --> 02:25:00,760
Speaker 1: and I like the fact that I could call my CEO.

2580
02:25:01,200 --> 02:25:04,240
Speaker 1: Cameron actually said that one time, Cameron, someone could teake

2581
02:25:04,320 --> 02:25:08,040
Speaker 1: Cameron after he had left um what was it epic

2582
02:25:08,280 --> 02:25:12,720
Speaker 1: or was it? And a sony sony and he had

2583
02:25:12,879 --> 02:25:16,280
Speaker 1: signed to jay Z and I remember Cameron saying something

2584
02:25:16,400 --> 02:25:18,880
Speaker 1: and it hit me. For pause, it hit me in

2585
02:25:18,959 --> 02:25:21,960
Speaker 1: a way I have never been hit prior to that.

2586
02:25:25,440 --> 02:25:31,440
Speaker 1: Hit balls hitting the balls that I mean, I understand

2587
02:25:31,680 --> 02:25:36,520
Speaker 1: that balls like, but I'm saying it hit so the

2588
02:25:36,600 --> 02:25:38,920
Speaker 1: way it hit me. He said, I like the fact

2589
02:25:39,240 --> 02:25:42,400
Speaker 1: that he can call his CEO. And when he said that,

2590
02:25:42,520 --> 02:25:46,959
Speaker 1: I said, oh ship. And here's the thing. Drink champs

2591
02:25:47,040 --> 02:25:51,720
Speaker 1: had became like a thing that people talked about. Didn't

2592
02:25:51,800 --> 02:25:57,280
Speaker 1: understand anybody who could cheek the Donas interview never seen.

2593
02:25:57,400 --> 02:25:59,680
Speaker 1: That was a hundred and six nine episode. You've never

2594
02:25:59,720 --> 02:26:02,320
Speaker 1: seen a hundred and sixty eight because we pick up

2595
02:26:02,360 --> 02:26:06,160
Speaker 1: our artists. We didn't do nothing abnormal people like you

2596
02:26:06,240 --> 02:26:08,720
Speaker 1: picked him up too much. We picked every fucking body

2597
02:26:08,800 --> 02:26:12,920
Speaker 1: up comes. So there came a time again, I know

2598
02:26:13,120 --> 02:26:14,800
Speaker 1: ear fings gonna look at me. There came a time

2599
02:26:14,800 --> 02:26:17,480
Speaker 1: where certain companies, because it was a one subscription company

2600
02:26:17,520 --> 02:26:21,320
Speaker 1: who came at us a subscription company, and when a

2601
02:26:21,360 --> 02:26:29,560
Speaker 1: subscription company came out and they so when they came Paul,

2602
02:26:31,640 --> 02:26:34,080
Speaker 1: what would be the difference if we do it there

2603
02:26:35,120 --> 02:26:38,200
Speaker 1: and if we do it here? So I'll call Charlemagne

2604
02:26:38,240 --> 02:26:42,000
Speaker 1: one day. Title was not in the are. This was

2605
02:26:42,160 --> 02:26:49,760
Speaker 1: just their situation and the massive pill. And I said, Yo,

2606
02:26:50,000 --> 02:26:52,760
Speaker 1: what did you what would you think? And he said,

2607
02:26:54,080 --> 02:26:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes when the culture blow up, the culture

2608
02:26:56,959 --> 02:27:00,520
Speaker 1: always get outside the culture. I'm not mad the culture

2609
02:27:00,520 --> 02:27:04,000
Speaker 1: to keep it culture. And it was the most simplest

2610
02:27:04,080 --> 02:27:06,600
Speaker 1: thing for me to do in the world, right. And

2611
02:27:06,680 --> 02:27:10,200
Speaker 1: the thing was, I like the fact that our bosses

2612
02:27:10,360 --> 02:27:13,560
Speaker 1: look like us. If they don't mind calling them my boss,

2613
02:27:13,560 --> 02:27:20,440
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk. I don't give who's your boss?

2614
02:27:20,560 --> 02:27:25,520
Speaker 1: What you want? Oh my god? What did Jay say?

2615
02:27:25,640 --> 02:27:29,200
Speaker 1: What's your employer name? With your pieces? I like the

2616
02:27:29,320 --> 02:27:35,400
Speaker 1: fact and I like the fact that I'm the guy

2617
02:27:35,480 --> 02:27:37,760
Speaker 1: who I'm working with looks like me. I like the

2618
02:27:37,800 --> 02:27:39,480
Speaker 1: fact that guy that I do business with to get

2619
02:27:39,520 --> 02:27:42,240
Speaker 1: my thing on television looks like me, and he dances

2620
02:27:42,280 --> 02:27:45,720
Speaker 1: as well. He's wear shiny suits. I like the fact

2621
02:27:45,800 --> 02:27:48,560
Speaker 1: that when you hear us, it comes from a guy

2622
02:27:48,959 --> 02:27:51,320
Speaker 1: that if it wasn't for his career, I might have

2623
02:27:51,480 --> 02:27:54,840
Speaker 1: even been here anyway. I wasn't rhyming like that before

2624
02:27:54,879 --> 02:27:58,720
Speaker 1: Illmatic had to change my whole ship. I think we

2625
02:27:58,840 --> 02:28:01,200
Speaker 1: all had to change our up at the Ilmatic. I

2626
02:28:01,240 --> 02:28:03,320
Speaker 1: think even Jay would say that. I think Jay did

2627
02:28:03,440 --> 02:28:06,000
Speaker 1: say that. Did he say that? He said I thought

2628
02:28:06,040 --> 02:28:09,760
Speaker 1: he was all on Blueprint three? So I like the fact.

2629
02:28:10,480 --> 02:28:12,959
Speaker 1: And there's certain people who would come and say, well,

2630
02:28:13,040 --> 02:28:18,400
Speaker 1: that's a Luminaiti, let's do what What is the next one?

2631
02:28:18,920 --> 02:28:22,160
Speaker 1: What do you say to people like that? People? You

2632
02:28:22,200 --> 02:28:24,400
Speaker 1: know what they're saying, that you're easy luminite? What they

2633
02:28:24,480 --> 02:28:26,720
Speaker 1: say that they say that because you want I'm not that,

2634
02:28:26,840 --> 02:28:29,760
Speaker 1: because I'm not that rich, because you want MTV, because

2635
02:28:29,760 --> 02:28:32,400
Speaker 1: you want MTV and you want type this is the

2636
02:28:32,480 --> 02:28:36,840
Speaker 1: first thing that I have to say. But what did

2637
02:28:37,560 --> 02:28:40,440
Speaker 1: the rich one you did for the luminati, the rich,

2638
02:28:41,800 --> 02:28:55,320
Speaker 1: come on this show. What do you believe there's something

2639
02:28:55,400 --> 02:29:00,920
Speaker 1: called blackballing? Like I asked, somebody think about it. When

2640
02:29:00,959 --> 02:29:04,000
Speaker 1: he said, okay, hold on, actually the something called black baller.

2641
02:29:04,080 --> 02:29:07,560
Speaker 1: And I think he gave the most best I'll take

2642
02:29:07,640 --> 02:29:10,000
Speaker 1: on the side of type the most guest, as you

2643
02:29:10,080 --> 02:29:15,000
Speaker 1: don't have to pass the most I wait for Elliott

2644
02:29:18,000 --> 02:29:21,520
Speaker 1: get the most best answer. He said, if there's such

2645
02:29:21,600 --> 02:29:24,720
Speaker 1: thing as black bailler, would you let them black ball you?

2646
02:29:25,560 --> 02:29:29,760
Speaker 1: Now he flipped it though, like, but that's not If

2647
02:29:29,800 --> 02:29:32,080
Speaker 1: you got wildfire, you can't be black You can't black

2648
02:29:32,280 --> 02:29:33,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't believe so many. If you got

2649
02:29:33,600 --> 02:29:35,879
Speaker 1: a Twitter account of instant, you can't be black balled. Man.

2650
02:29:36,560 --> 02:29:40,119
Speaker 1: So unless those companies black ball you, it's hard. It's

2651
02:29:40,160 --> 02:29:43,080
Speaker 1: hard as black for you black ball you in this error. Yeah,

2652
02:29:43,280 --> 02:29:46,039
Speaker 1: because again you have a certain direct line to the consumer.

2653
02:29:46,320 --> 02:29:48,520
Speaker 1: Right back then we had to go through the direct companies.

2654
02:29:48,680 --> 02:29:51,760
Speaker 1: There was a little SoundCloud Freddie Gibbs. Freddie Gibbs left

2655
02:29:51,920 --> 02:29:55,560
Speaker 1: UM and did well off for itself. Times back in

2656
02:29:55,640 --> 02:29:59,080
Speaker 1: the days, you leave this company and they'll quote unquote

2657
02:29:59,120 --> 02:30:02,600
Speaker 1: MA and you'll probably his blacks Like it's gonna make

2658
02:30:02,600 --> 02:30:04,280
Speaker 1: it hearty if he had to go through that and

2659
02:30:04,400 --> 02:30:06,760
Speaker 1: he overcame it. But this is what I think, and

2660
02:30:06,760 --> 02:30:09,000
Speaker 1: you correct me if you think it is right, if

2661
02:30:09,080 --> 02:30:12,040
Speaker 1: I say, if I say, I don't funk with Elliott, right,

2662
02:30:13,440 --> 02:30:16,920
Speaker 1: all right? So right, So it's not that I'm calling

2663
02:30:17,040 --> 02:30:20,320
Speaker 1: him saying don't funk with Elliott. I'm saying it publicly.

2664
02:30:20,360 --> 02:30:24,760
Speaker 1: I don't call with Elliott has to make his I'm

2665
02:30:25,000 --> 02:30:28,480
Speaker 1: calling him, calling bet and saying, you're be got If

2666
02:30:28,520 --> 02:30:30,520
Speaker 1: you standing next to Elliott to me and you got beef,

2667
02:30:30,879 --> 02:30:33,360
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. The thing is you're standing next

2668
02:30:33,400 --> 02:30:35,000
Speaker 1: to him, and you know that that's your choice. You

2669
02:30:35,080 --> 02:30:38,039
Speaker 1: may climate yeah, because because because I'm trying to tell somebody,

2670
02:30:38,080 --> 02:30:40,200
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to tell the individual there's like yo,

2671
02:30:40,480 --> 02:30:42,320
Speaker 1: because I know niggers don't want me on a drink chance.

2672
02:30:42,400 --> 02:30:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're stop it, man, listen, man, you gotta stop.

2673
02:30:45,920 --> 02:30:48,760
Speaker 1: I like, yo, Never I've never had a conversation with

2674
02:30:48,959 --> 02:30:52,760
Speaker 1: j about you. I've never had a conversation but about you.

2675
02:30:52,959 --> 02:30:55,119
Speaker 1: I don't have a conversation but not. I'm just starting

2676
02:30:55,160 --> 02:30:57,440
Speaker 1: to do business with these people. But the thing is,

2677
02:30:57,720 --> 02:31:02,240
Speaker 1: you just think I'm getting wrong. What a billionaire and

2678
02:31:02,320 --> 02:31:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking about you. I got to figure out who

2679
02:31:07,440 --> 02:31:12,920
Speaker 1: this rapper. No, it's not a raper. But the thing

2680
02:31:13,000 --> 02:31:16,320
Speaker 1: about it is so many people who lose in life.

2681
02:31:16,360 --> 02:31:18,200
Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not calling this person to lose it,

2682
02:31:18,240 --> 02:31:20,400
Speaker 1: but but so many people are losing life. That's what

2683
02:31:20,480 --> 02:31:23,120
Speaker 1: they blaming on. They say that. They say that the

2684
02:31:23,160 --> 02:31:24,920
Speaker 1: reason why beat Out is winning, or the reason why

2685
02:31:24,920 --> 02:31:27,160
Speaker 1: beat Out is on MTV is because he's a part

2686
02:31:27,200 --> 02:31:29,800
Speaker 1: of Illumini. You know what I'm saying that it makes

2687
02:31:29,840 --> 02:31:33,160
Speaker 1: me feel like success. For you to even say that

2688
02:31:33,280 --> 02:31:36,240
Speaker 1: that makes it that makes me feel successful, like I'm

2689
02:31:36,280 --> 02:31:38,440
Speaker 1: in Illumina. I don't even think that. I can't even

2690
02:31:38,440 --> 02:31:41,720
Speaker 1: get verified on your sign to jay Z brotherly like yes, yes,

2691
02:31:41,760 --> 02:31:44,520
Speaker 1: they think you're in a luminality. Yes, this is the

2692
02:31:44,560 --> 02:31:47,080
Speaker 1: first time you heard that I'm bringing into your fourth

2693
02:31:47,120 --> 02:31:51,600
Speaker 1: first brother. This is and they're saying about me. And

2694
02:31:51,680 --> 02:31:54,280
Speaker 1: at first I used to be um flatter because I

2695
02:31:54,360 --> 02:31:56,039
Speaker 1: used to be like, all right, that means I'm up. Yeah,

2696
02:31:56,280 --> 02:32:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm up. But now that that I'm actually seeing with it,

2697
02:32:01,360 --> 02:32:03,920
Speaker 1: I don't like it because I feel like they're taking

2698
02:32:03,920 --> 02:32:05,960
Speaker 1: away from my success. I feel like what you're saying,

2699
02:32:06,000 --> 02:32:08,199
Speaker 1: I ain't work hard. We got a hundred and sixty

2700
02:32:08,560 --> 02:32:11,480
Speaker 1: nine episodes for a reason. You know, we're out here.

2701
02:32:11,760 --> 02:32:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm out here with five fucking gold, fucking platinum albums

2702
02:32:15,040 --> 02:32:17,040
Speaker 1: for a reason. This man has been DJ and for

2703
02:32:17,400 --> 02:32:19,760
Speaker 1: twenty five years and we even touch a fucking crate

2704
02:32:19,840 --> 02:32:24,360
Speaker 1: unless it's vinyl because he's fucking for real for a reason. Like, Yeah,

2705
02:32:24,440 --> 02:32:31,280
Speaker 1: this nigga is a stubborn guy. So I just say that,

2706
02:32:32,640 --> 02:32:37,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like like like like this

2707
02:32:37,440 --> 02:32:40,560
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. It's like, um. And when they

2708
02:32:40,640 --> 02:32:43,480
Speaker 1: say that, in case you didn't know that, anybody who

2709
02:32:43,560 --> 02:32:46,640
Speaker 1: messes with Jay, anybody who kind of like gets close

2710
02:32:47,240 --> 02:32:51,160
Speaker 1: what Puffin wins, anybody who who does business with nos

2711
02:32:51,520 --> 02:32:54,200
Speaker 1: That's the immediate thing that they say, I happen to

2712
02:32:54,280 --> 02:32:56,600
Speaker 1: do business. We happen to do business for all three

2713
02:32:57,520 --> 02:33:01,440
Speaker 1: because the business made sense, not because we're down with anything.

2714
02:33:02,080 --> 02:33:04,840
Speaker 1: And these things have no control over our ship. That's

2715
02:33:04,959 --> 02:33:07,080
Speaker 1: one of the things that we said is like we're

2716
02:33:07,120 --> 02:33:10,600
Speaker 1: not changing a damn thing. We're still gonna smoke weed.

2717
02:33:10,760 --> 02:33:13,959
Speaker 1: We're still gonna smoke the smoke camps with the white

2718
02:33:13,959 --> 02:33:19,680
Speaker 1: ship around it, that looks like cocaine in TBD. And

2719
02:33:20,240 --> 02:33:22,320
Speaker 1: when we and we're smoking it out of shine papers,

2720
02:33:22,720 --> 02:33:27,840
Speaker 1: shine papers we got. We're gonna be smoking blaze. We're

2721
02:33:27,840 --> 02:33:29,800
Speaker 1: gonna be We're gonna be drinking sut. We're gonna be

2722
02:33:29,879 --> 02:33:33,240
Speaker 1: drinking space. We usually have a space. Sorry hole today

2723
02:33:33,320 --> 02:33:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna do no listen, listen, you know, let's

2724
02:33:36,240 --> 02:33:38,960
Speaker 1: take a week to come here. But I couldn't listen

2725
02:33:39,040 --> 02:33:41,600
Speaker 1: listen AI serious man, being honest, I don't need to

2726
02:33:41,640 --> 02:33:52,440
Speaker 1: have a conversation with one. Yeah, because a spade is

2727
02:33:52,520 --> 02:33:57,359
Speaker 1: very too expensive. But yeah, we got we gotta yourself

2728
02:33:57,440 --> 02:33:59,840
Speaker 1: because we want we want this ship to be oh

2729
02:34:00,480 --> 02:34:09,080
Speaker 1: wrap you rabble? What the fun rap rappers for us?

2730
02:34:13,800 --> 02:34:16,800
Speaker 1: You want to man? And we want you to know brothers.

2731
02:34:16,879 --> 02:34:19,200
Speaker 1: You know, I think, y'all, I'm so glad that your

2732
02:34:19,240 --> 02:34:22,160
Speaker 1: brothers came and sat down with us because because a

2733
02:34:22,240 --> 02:34:24,360
Speaker 1: lot of people doing you know what, a lot of

2734
02:34:29,160 --> 02:34:31,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought that this was this was

2735
02:34:31,680 --> 02:34:33,720
Speaker 1: like a competition or beef and the things like that.

2736
02:34:34,000 --> 02:34:36,520
Speaker 1: And the thing is, I've warmed it it. I welcomed

2737
02:34:36,560 --> 02:34:39,440
Speaker 1: it because I needed it. I needed to be put

2738
02:34:39,520 --> 02:34:40,880
Speaker 1: in my place. I need to be put it on

2739
02:34:40,959 --> 02:34:43,680
Speaker 1: my toes pause. I needed to, I needed, you know,

2740
02:34:43,879 --> 02:34:48,200
Speaker 1: because yeah, because the thing about it is, the thing

2741
02:34:48,280 --> 02:34:53,120
Speaker 1: about it is if anything comes easy to me in life,

2742
02:34:53,160 --> 02:34:56,560
Speaker 1: I don't want it like I don't. I don't. I

2743
02:34:56,600 --> 02:34:58,560
Speaker 1: don't know how to roll a blunt because it's not

2744
02:34:58,680 --> 02:35:02,400
Speaker 1: easy like I want. I want, you know, I want

2745
02:35:02,440 --> 02:35:04,200
Speaker 1: to work for it. I want to. And the thing

2746
02:35:04,440 --> 02:35:08,560
Speaker 1: was you guys, It was rap rad Off, You guys

2747
02:35:08,680 --> 02:35:10,880
Speaker 1: was establishing what was going on. He was the biggest thing.

2748
02:35:11,280 --> 02:35:13,760
Speaker 1: And then we came to CBS and it probably felt

2749
02:35:13,760 --> 02:35:19,520
Speaker 1: a little crazy and it did. It did. Let me

2750
02:35:19,560 --> 02:35:21,320
Speaker 1: tell you what what what? What was? The first thing

2751
02:35:21,760 --> 02:35:23,880
Speaker 1: was the time when we interview tax Stone and the

2752
02:35:23,959 --> 02:35:26,800
Speaker 1: interviewed see the God. We had road weeds and the

2753
02:35:26,879 --> 02:35:31,360
Speaker 1: guy and in the next yeah, yeah, and it was

2754
02:35:31,400 --> 02:35:33,560
Speaker 1: like the rap Radar guy said, you guys can't be

2755
02:35:33,640 --> 02:35:48,920
Speaker 1: rolling weed in here. He said, was highly upset, yo.

2756
02:35:49,280 --> 02:35:52,960
Speaker 1: But let me tell you something be Dot Brian be

2757
02:35:53,120 --> 02:35:56,320
Speaker 1: Dot Miller, Elliott Wilson. I want to thank you guys.

2758
02:35:56,520 --> 02:35:58,920
Speaker 1: I want to thank you, thank you. I want to

2759
02:35:58,959 --> 02:36:01,640
Speaker 1: thank you guys for doing what you do in hip hop.

2760
02:36:01,720 --> 02:36:03,480
Speaker 1: I want to thank you guys for holding down what

2761
02:36:03,560 --> 02:36:05,280
Speaker 1: you're doing hip hop. I want to thank you guys

2762
02:36:05,360 --> 02:36:08,120
Speaker 1: for doing reporting journalism the way it's supposed to be.

2763
02:36:08,360 --> 02:36:11,119
Speaker 1: I want to thank you guys for motherfucking monkey foot

2764
02:36:11,160 --> 02:36:13,200
Speaker 1: in this game and not stopping. I want to thank

2765
02:36:13,200 --> 02:36:15,080
Speaker 1: you guys for upping the game and going out there

2766
02:36:15,080 --> 02:36:17,000
Speaker 1: and getting the jay Z and getting the Will Smith

2767
02:36:17,320 --> 02:36:19,680
Speaker 1: and getting the fun you gotta do and making sure

2768
02:36:19,760 --> 02:36:21,720
Speaker 1: your interviews is on point to make sure that my

2769
02:36:21,840 --> 02:36:23,720
Speaker 1: ship is on point, because I watched it me one

2770
02:36:23,760 --> 02:36:25,760
Speaker 1: of your motherfucking ship to make sure that I can

2771
02:36:25,800 --> 02:36:27,440
Speaker 1: step it up. And I want to thank you in

2772
02:36:27,520 --> 02:36:29,920
Speaker 1: your face, not behind your back, to tell you we

2773
02:36:30,000 --> 02:36:32,360
Speaker 1: appreciate what you do for the Coach, that we appreciate

2774
02:36:32,640 --> 02:36:35,160
Speaker 1: what you do for the podcast game, and we appreciate

2775
02:36:35,240 --> 02:36:37,040
Speaker 1: what you're doing for title, because we're gonna make this

2776
02:36:37,080 --> 02:36:47,680
Speaker 1: ship the new Apple, Last Last. I gotta come on

2777
02:36:52,440 --> 02:36:55,680
Speaker 1: those big shots though I've been noticing. Yeah, I think

2778
02:36:55,720 --> 02:37:02,600
Speaker 1: it's been going crazy. Solo, Yo, Solo, Thank you so much, man.

2779
02:37:02,959 --> 02:37:06,560
Speaker 1: That was like a four hour conversation and