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Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. The

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Speaker 1: reason Trump's team of idiot rivals messaged each other their

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Speaker 1: war plans on might as well have been AOL Instant

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Speaker 1: Messenger or Yahoo Pager or I Kremlin. The reason wasn't

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Speaker 1: to keep these communications secret from the Senate or from

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Speaker 1: future investigations or from the Democrats. It was to keep

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Speaker 1: them secret from Trump. They no longer trust Trump, they

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Speaker 1: no longer think Trump understands what's going on. There was

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Speaker 1: That is the only and the inescapable conclusion to all this. Also,

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Speaker 1: they can all be charged with espionage under eighteen US

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Speaker 1: Code seventy nine to three gathering, transmitting or losing defense

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Speaker 1: information Paragraph F. I'll circle back to this, And if

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Speaker 1: you miss this, a German newspaper found live mobile numbers

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Speaker 1: and email addresses for Waltz and Gabbard and Hegseth. I'll

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Speaker 1: circle back to that. Also, Waltz and Gabbert and Hegseth

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Speaker 1: as I can tell. The real lesson of the Yeah man,

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Speaker 1: it's Yemen Emoji party is they are cutting Trump out.

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Speaker 1: Either he is as exactly bonkers as we've all thought

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Speaker 1: he was getting, or they've all decided the only part

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Speaker 1: idea who Jeffrey Goldberg was, and he could barely remember

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Speaker 1: what the Atlantic was long enough to take a really

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Speaker 1: and his cabinet knows it. And before he tells them

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Speaker 1: And I might add, nearly everybody on these texts that

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Speaker 1: hell would the name of the editor of The Atlantic

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Speaker 1: my name in there too. How about Jasmine Crocketts. Now

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Speaker 1: Goldberg or people like Goldberg at least would be in

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Speaker 1: Mike Waltz's phone, or whoever's phone Mike Waltz would have

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Speaker 1: first person to have noticed this, certainly not the last

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Speaker 1: eager denials on Fox. Eager is the plight word for insane.

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Speaker 1: This whole thing insecure as it is, illegal, as it is,

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Speaker 1: it is is indeed about keeping everything off the books,

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Speaker 1: hit the cloud just right? We got seventy seven and

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Speaker 1: And if that's the case, the point of this is

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Speaker 1: Sunset Boulevard. We need a whole new president like later today.

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Speaker 1: The one we have now is nuts, positively definitely nuts,

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Speaker 1: and his own people know it. I'm not defending any

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Speaker 1: to hell. But this, surprisingly enough, is not a Trump

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Speaker 1: espionage eighteen US Code seventy nine three, and a preface

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Speaker 1: most subservient of Trump's slaves, his attorney general. Still it's there,

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Speaker 1: people like Mike Waltz, is Trump still being interested in

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Speaker 1: the mystery phone name gets quote sucked into your phone unquote.

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Speaker 1: Mike Waltz is about an hour away from claiming Jesus

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Speaker 1: put it there. Why also, would Goldberg have done this?

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Speaker 1: The idea that he has somehow done something wrong here

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Speaker 1: like some of Waltz's old phones. Der Spiegel can get

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Speaker 1: gist is their staffers at this German news magazine we're

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump can be found on the internet. Der Spiegel

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Speaker 1: reports reporters, forgive me, we're able to find mobile phone numbers,

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Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth. Scoll. Most of these numbers

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Speaker 1: leads to an active WhatsApp account and a signal profile.

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Speaker 1: the DNI, the Director of National Intelligence, as a signal

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration's stupidity and culpability, and as I noted earlier,

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Speaker 1: the dawning realization that Trump is not making the decisions

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Speaker 1: here anymore. The messages are on signal or WhatsApp or

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Speaker 1: telegram or I Kremlin or wherever, so they can keep

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Speaker 1: them from Trump. This gigantic shit show shined magnificently on

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Speaker 1: its own with no added help from me for three days. However,

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Speaker 1: I can add a little background to this, a little history,

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Speaker 1: like one hundred and sixty three years worth. Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 1: may turn out to have been the former governmental figure

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Speaker 1: the most skilled at keeping confidential communications confidential. Seriously, Put

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Speaker 1: an email in front of an administration staffer, any administration,

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Speaker 1: any century, and they would screw it up. Put a

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Speaker 1: phone call in front of an administration staffer, and they

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Speaker 1: would screw it up. Put literally a handwritten note in

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Speaker 1: front of an administration staffer, and they did screw it up.

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Speaker 1: Nixon's phone calls were all recorded for about five years,

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Speaker 1: and only one or two low level members of his

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Speaker 1: staff even suspected anything until John Dene figured it out.

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Speaker 1: Hell Robert E. Lee's special Order Numbnumber one nine one

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Speaker 1: from September ninth, eighteen sixty two, detailed the South's invasion

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Speaker 1: of Maryland, except somebody he gave it to dropped it.

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Speaker 1: Dropped it on a campground at Frederick, Maryland, and a

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Speaker 1: Northern corporal found it on the ground four days later,

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Speaker 1: and suddenly the North had general These invasion plans at

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Speaker 1: the opposite end of the importance spectrum, but with the

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Speaker 1: same degree of utter incompetence and stupidity. I have my

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Speaker 1: own personal experience I'd like to share with you about

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Speaker 1: this topic about a president's trusted aids, about the fact

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Speaker 1: that none of them could type the proverbial Shakespearean tome

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Speaker 1: if they had five thousand monkeys with them and typewriters.

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Speaker 1: Unlike Trump's, who couldn't keep his secrets secret, George Bush's

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Speaker 1: trusted aids literally could not help but keep them secret.

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Speaker 1: They could not manage to successfully send an email to me.

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Speaker 1: It took them hours, perhaps days, to figure out how

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Speaker 1: to send me an email. The thing wouldn't work, no

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Speaker 1: matter how many times they hit it over the head

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Speaker 1: with something. And by the time they did figure it out,

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Speaker 1: they had inadvertently wound up giving me the list of

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Speaker 1: everybody at NBC whom they trusted, and whom therefore I

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Speaker 1: knew from that moment forward, I could not. On Monday,

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Speaker 1: May third, two thousand and four, my executive producer phoned

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Speaker 1: me at home and said, we got Ambassador Joe Wilson.

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Speaker 1: He'll be on the show tomorrow. Within hours, the communications

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Speaker 1: office of the White House of George W. Bush began

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Speaker 1: a desperate, ceaseless, tireless effort to send me one email

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Speaker 1: with talking points about Ambassador Joe Wilson, which repeatedly hille

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Speaker 1: variously failed to get through to me because none of

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Speaker 1: evening of May third, and throughout the morning of May

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Speaker 1: the fourth, I got calls and forwarded emails from people

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Speaker 1: the Bush White House Communications Office, all of them with

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Speaker 1: attachments addressed to Keith Oberman without the L, Keith Olberman

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Speaker 1: with only one N, Kaieth Olberman Keith spelled wrong, and

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Speaker 1: even Keith Overman with a V. This was actually truly

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Speaker 1: the first day I believed I was having an impact

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Speaker 1: on the Bush White House, and also the first day

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Speaker 1: I realized they were incredibly stupid. There Democracy still had

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Speaker 1: a slim chance. The Internet had been operating at more

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Speaker 1: or less its present speed since about nineteen ninety seven

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Speaker 1: or nineteen ninety eight. My name was all over the

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Speaker 1: Internet in articles about my news career, about my sports career,

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Speaker 1: about my my previous news career. There were articles I

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Speaker 1: had written, there were books I had written, and these

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Speaker 1: people who were trying to reshape the United States of

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Speaker 1: America into a reactionary, conservative, cruel, xenophobic, semi authoritarian state,

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Speaker 1: we're not smart enough to figure out how to spell

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Speaker 1: my name, just so we know who we are talking about.

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Speaker 1: By this point, Scott McClellan had succeeded the infamous Aary

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Speaker 1: Fleischer as press secretary. His deputies were Dana Perino, who

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Speaker 1: went from being the stupidest person ever to be White

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Speaker 1: House Press secretary to being one of the stupidest persons

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Speaker 1: ever to have a show on Fox News, Pamela Is Stevens,

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Speaker 1: who later wound up as a producer at CNN. Because

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Speaker 1: political press people are exactly like unemployed football coaches or

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Speaker 1: baseball managers who get TV jobs and then leave the

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Speaker 1: TV jobs to go back onto the field, the communications

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Speaker 1: director was named Dan Bartlett, and there was another communications

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Speaker 1: person there named Nicole Wallace, who has somehow shaken off

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Speaker 1: the stink of working for both George and Jeb Bush

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Speaker 1: and is now considered a darling of MSNBC, even though

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Speaker 1: her only true non fascist credential is she doesn't like

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Speaker 1: Trump either. The crack White House media team representing the

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Speaker 1: most powerful man in the world in the anxious and

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Speaker 1: foreshadowing years after nine to eleven, and not one of

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Speaker 1: them could even find anybody else who could spell my name,

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Speaker 1: let alone spell it themselves. More on them in a moment,

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Speaker 1: But I need to explain who Joe Wilson was if

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Speaker 1: you don't know, and why he was so important. Long

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Speaker 1: before Colin Powell confessed to Tim Russert that he had

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Speaker 1: been lied to by the White House and thus he

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Speaker 1: himself had lied to the United Nations about Sadam Hussein's

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Speaker 1: imaginary weapons of mass destruction. Those were the excuses from

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Speaker 1: Bush Cheney for dragging this country into an unnecessary and

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Speaker 1: national soul destroying war in Iraq. Lies and torture and

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Speaker 1: scapegoating and suppression and brutality. Before that, there was Ambassador

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Speaker 1: Joseph Charles Wilson, the fourth and in two thousand and two,

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Speaker 1: after pressure from the White House, the CIA sent him

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Speaker 1: back to the scene of his first diplomatic posting, the

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Speaker 1: African nation of Niger to get proof for Bush that

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Speaker 1: Saddam was trying to buy yellow cake uranium there to

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Speaker 1: make nuclear bombses out of. And Wilson quickly found out

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Speaker 1: it was nonsense, and he reported back and the Bush

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Speaker 1: White House promptly buried his findings and instead, in the

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Speaker 1: two thousand and three State of the Union address, just

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Speaker 1: before he started bombing Iraq, George W. Bush said, the

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Speaker 1: British government has learned that Sadam Hussein recently sought significant

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Speaker 1: quantities of uranium from Africa. It was and remains a

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Speaker 1: complete lie, and war occurred because of it, and Joe

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Speaker 1: Wilson called it a complete lie in an op ed

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Speaker 1: in The New York Times on July sixth, two thousand

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Speaker 1: and three. The Iraq War was still at this stage

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Speaker 1: defined by Rah Rah. We're winning, but Sadam's WMD and

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Speaker 1: his biological weapons and his chemical weapons might be over

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Speaker 1: the next hill. And you'd better not criticize what we're doing,

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Speaker 1: or maybe you're a terrorist, Joe Wilson said. The Emperor

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Speaker 1: had no clothes. In two thousand and three, he was

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Speaker 1: an American Hero of the highest order. A week later,

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Speaker 1: a Dick Cheney flunky named Scooter Libby and a Deputy

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Speaker 1: Secretary of State named Armitage began a campaign to punish

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Speaker 1: Joe Wilson and discredit him. They leaked to a dyspeptic

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Speaker 1: and hate filled columnist named Robert Novak, who is now

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Speaker 1: working in the Bureau in Hell, that Wilson's wife was

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Speaker 1: an undercover agent for the CIA, and that her name

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Speaker 1: was Valerie Plame, and that the pair of them were

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Speaker 1: dirty Democrats. And moreover, it was Plame who had urged

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Speaker 1: that her own husband be sent to Niger to deliberately

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Speaker 1: not find the uranium or the Sadam Hussein signed rics seeds,

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Speaker 1: or whatever Bush expected to find there. The Bush White

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Speaker 1: House destroyed the career of risked the life of and

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Speaker 1: ruined several assignments and contacts of one of this country's

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Speaker 1: own secret CIA agents just to make her husband look bad.

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Speaker 1: So in May two thousand and four, when Joe Wilson

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Speaker 1: wrote a book about all this crap, and he inexplicably

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Speaker 1: wanted to go on MSNBC, which was still at that

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Speaker 1: point trying to be more conservative than Fox Nudes and

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Speaker 1: wanted to go on my little watched show, which was

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Speaker 1: considered the neutral outlier on a network full of Joe

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Speaker 1: Scarboroughs and Michael Savage's. This was a happy surprise for us,

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Speaker 1: which was followed by this wonderful, flailing effort by the

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Speaker 1: Bush White House to send me talking points about Joe

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Speaker 1: Wilson before I interviewed him. They not only could not

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Speaker 1: interview was designed to discredit Joe Wilson. The talking points,

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Speaker 1: which eventually got to me from Assistant Press Secretary Pamela Stevens,

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Speaker 1: consisted of six items over two pages. The headings were

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Speaker 1: as follows. One political motivation. This was about Wilson calling

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Speaker 1: Dick Cheney a lying SOB about a year after the

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Speaker 1: knee jair trip. I couldn't figure this one out. Dick

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Speaker 1: Cheney was a lying SOB. That's how I got to

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Speaker 1: be vice president. Two Gingrich spokesman calls allegations about alleged

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Speaker 1: March two thousand and three meeting completely falls. This cited

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Speaker 1: Newt Gingrich and his people as if they were good

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Speaker 1: sources as opposed to the punchlines they already were back

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Speaker 1: then in two thousand and four, talking point number three,

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Speaker 1: McClellan points out political objective, and four McClellan addresses accusations.

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Speaker 1: These were quotes from the press secretary. This man suddenly

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Speaker 1: quit that job two years later two thousand and six,

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Speaker 1: and confessed he had repeatedly lied for George W. Bush

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Speaker 1: and the others, and now he just couldn't take it anymore.

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Speaker 1: And he would come on my show, Joe and give

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Speaker 1: one of the best atonement interviews I've ever heard. It

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Speaker 1: went on for forty five minutes. Five Fleischer says VP

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Speaker 1: office did not request trip a quote from McClellan's predecessor,

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Speaker 1: who unless he is talking about baseball, you should assume

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Speaker 1: he's lying. Plus he might be lying about baseball. And finally,

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Speaker 1: six statement by George J. Tennant July eleven, two thousand

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Speaker 1: and three. This was a quote from the CIA director

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Speaker 1: which they thought was their home run, and it basically

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Speaker 1: consisted of this. Bush never saw that report. That was it.

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Speaker 1: There are three punchlines to this story. Number One, I

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Speaker 1: don't know why the Bush Communications office assumed I was

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Speaker 1: there to take down Joe Wilson. But the moment I

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Speaker 1: saw these talking points, any lingering doubt I had that

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Speaker 1: they were not all lying bastards down there was erased.

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Speaker 1: I used the talking points in my interview, all right.

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Speaker 1: I read them out loud to Joe Wilson, and he

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Speaker 1: re but at each of them with impeccable charm and elegance.

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Speaker 1: He and Valerie Plain became regular guests on My show

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Speaker 1: and would beat the crap out of George Bush with

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Speaker 1: the plum right through the morning of January twenty, two

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Speaker 1: thousand and nine. Second punchline. A year earlier, a supply

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Speaker 1: clerk with a maintenance company on the ground in Iraq

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Speaker 1: was captured Private Jessica Lynch. The military and the Bush

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Speaker 1: administration immediately put out the story that she was being

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Speaker 1: tortured by them evil Iraqi Sadam Hussein doctors. There was

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Speaker 1: the glorious rescue of Jessica Lynch which followed, and the

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Speaker 1: parades and the you better not question this story period,

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Speaker 1: which lasted about six weeks until a Toronto newspaper printed

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Speaker 1: a substantially different account that Lynch was rescued from an

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Speaker 1: Iraqi hospital and a US military team in good faith

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Speaker 1: went in to extract her, but that this was all

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Speaker 1: arranged not by some sort of part of intelligence or

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Speaker 1: un US operations or the Allies, but by the Iraqi doctors.

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Speaker 1: Some of them sneaked over to American lines at great

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Speaker 1: danger and said, one of your soldiers is hurt and

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Speaker 1: we don't have the right equipment to help her. Could

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Speaker 1: you swing by and pick her up? I reported that

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Speaker 1: version on MSNBC, and the next day, as I was

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Speaker 1: still taking my coat off, my boss, Phil Griffin called

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Speaker 1: me in and said that the head of NBC News

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Speaker 1: and the president of NBC, Bob Wright, had been on

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Speaker 1: the phone all morning to him, insisting I should be

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Speaker 1: fired for implying that the Bush administration had lied. Griffin

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Speaker 1: proudly said he had talked them into letting me get

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Speaker 1: away with just apologizing to the troops. I can't even

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Speaker 1: read this with a straight face now, twenty years later,

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Speaker 1: apologizing to the troops who rescued her, I must credit

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Speaker 1: myself when my brain was fulled in that I did

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Speaker 1: some quick thinking. The demand was comical nonsense Journalistically. On

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Speaker 1: the other hand, if I agreed to apologize to, okay,

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Speaker 1: the troops who rescued her whoever you want, I would

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Speaker 1: get the chance to tell the whole real story of

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Speaker 1: Jessica Lynch again, so I did. The apology was fifteen seconds,

638
00:44:25,155 --> 00:44:28,755
Speaker 1: and while unnecessary, was sincere I didn't want to make

639
00:44:28,755 --> 00:44:30,915
Speaker 1: the troops look bad. They didn't know anything about this crap.

640
00:44:31,715 --> 00:44:34,035
Speaker 1: I made sure, however, that the retelling of the true

641
00:44:34,115 --> 00:44:36,635
Speaker 1: Lynch rescue story took about two and a half minutes.

642
00:44:37,995 --> 00:44:40,115
Speaker 1: That was in June of two thousand and three. So

643
00:44:40,275 --> 00:44:42,995
Speaker 1: why as of May of two thousand and four, the

644
00:44:43,035 --> 00:44:46,195
Speaker 1: Bush White House thought I was sympathetic to them, I'll

645
00:44:46,235 --> 00:44:49,355
Speaker 1: never know, or why they bothered with me, I'll never know,

646
00:44:50,355 --> 00:44:53,955
Speaker 1: which brings me to the last point. The unintended side

647
00:44:53,955 --> 00:44:57,675
Speaker 1: effect with the long term impact of all those failed

648
00:44:57,675 --> 00:45:00,795
Speaker 1: White House emails with my name misspelled was that this

649
00:45:00,995 --> 00:45:06,035
Speaker 1: Pamelas Stevens person promptly forwarded them to people around NBC

650
00:45:06,795 --> 00:45:11,315
Speaker 1: whom she considered friendly to George W. Bush. One of

651
00:45:11,315 --> 00:45:14,755
Speaker 1: them was Tom Brokaw's assistant, another was in the office

652
00:45:14,755 --> 00:45:18,315
Speaker 1: of future NBC News president Steve Cappus, and the final

653
00:45:18,355 --> 00:45:21,995
Speaker 1: one was to some guy named George Uribey. And so

654
00:45:22,115 --> 00:45:24,995
Speaker 1: I found out all the people in the Bush administrations

655
00:45:25,395 --> 00:45:28,195
Speaker 1: we like them. List at NBC News who I should

656
00:45:28,195 --> 00:45:33,275
Speaker 1: avoid under all circumstances. Let's see Brokaw's assistance. So no Brokaw,

657
00:45:33,435 --> 00:45:36,315
Speaker 1: somebody in Cappus's office and no Cappus and this guy

658
00:45:36,475 --> 00:45:41,515
Speaker 1: George Ribey. And George ribe turned out to be a

659
00:45:41,595 --> 00:45:47,195
Speaker 1: guy hired by MSNBC from Fox News to go work

660
00:45:47,235 --> 00:45:51,755
Speaker 1: for Scarborough. He fell out of favor with Joe Scarborough

661
00:45:51,755 --> 00:45:54,355
Speaker 1: and I guess he didn't henchman enough for Joe's taste,

662
00:45:55,115 --> 00:45:58,315
Speaker 1: and his influence fell to a guy. I don't think

663
00:45:58,355 --> 00:46:29,755
Speaker 1: I've mentioned him to you yet. Chris licked. Believe it

664
00:46:29,795 --> 00:46:32,515
Speaker 1: or not, there are still more new idiots to talk about.

665
00:46:32,875 --> 00:46:36,035
Speaker 1: The daily roundup of the miscrants, morons and dunning kruegrip

666
00:46:36,155 --> 00:46:42,955
Speaker 1: X specimens who constitute today's other worst persons in the world.

667
00:46:44,795 --> 00:46:50,595
Speaker 1: Here are your nominees. The bronze worse Stephanie Borrowitz. Stephanie

668
00:46:50,635 --> 00:46:54,995
Speaker 1: Borrowitz is a standard issue, utterly fungible, completely Stepford wife,

669
00:46:55,235 --> 00:46:59,515
Speaker 1: religious nut job representing the seventy sixth District of the

670
00:46:59,515 --> 00:47:04,475
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania State House of Representatives. The seventy sixth the seventy

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00:47:04,835 --> 00:47:12,115
Speaker 1: six you know, Limestone Township and Mifflinburgh. Stephanie, who once

672
00:47:12,235 --> 00:47:16,235
Speaker 1: booed the capital officers from January sixth and insisted there

673
00:47:16,475 --> 00:47:20,835
Speaker 1: was no January sixth, is just dangerous enough to hurt herself.

674
00:47:21,155 --> 00:47:24,515
Speaker 1: And she has. The Bucks County Beacon reports that she

675
00:47:24,555 --> 00:47:27,835
Speaker 1: has now posted and boasted on social media about how

676
00:47:27,875 --> 00:47:31,875
Speaker 1: you should always see how your representative votes and not

677
00:47:32,035 --> 00:47:35,595
Speaker 1: what they say. And she's super duper proud of her

678
00:47:35,635 --> 00:47:40,955
Speaker 1: one hundred percent lifetime score, her total approval, her completely nonpartisan,

679
00:47:41,075 --> 00:47:48,475
Speaker 1: a political grade from the John Birch Society. I'll just

680
00:47:48,555 --> 00:47:53,235
Speaker 1: say that again. She has a one hundred percent lifetime score,

681
00:47:53,355 --> 00:47:59,915
Speaker 1: this Pennsylvania state representative from the John Birch Society. All right,

682
00:47:59,955 --> 00:48:02,595
Speaker 1: if I have to explain the John Birch Society, let

683
00:48:02,595 --> 00:48:05,435
Speaker 1: me just sum it up thusly while you google. It's

684
00:48:05,515 --> 00:48:08,395
Speaker 1: the Ku Klux Klan only for those of you who

685
00:48:08,395 --> 00:48:15,995
Speaker 1: don't like fires and who do have shoes. Mifleinburg the

686
00:48:16,155 --> 00:48:18,835
Speaker 1: runner up. Why it's Steve Bannon, and I have good

687
00:48:18,875 --> 00:48:22,115
Speaker 1: news for you. We've broken him. We broke him. All

688
00:48:22,115 --> 00:48:25,915
Speaker 1: those annoying complaints about his violent language and implied threats

689
00:48:25,955 --> 00:48:29,395
Speaker 1: and delusions of grandeur, Well it's finally happened Steve has

690
00:48:29,435 --> 00:48:34,835
Speaker 1: begun to edit himself, boasting on his online feed, which

691
00:48:34,915 --> 00:48:37,475
Speaker 1: is like one step up now from the Michael Savage

692
00:48:37,515 --> 00:48:41,675
Speaker 1: Kvetchelon hour about the l folderou from the lawyers, from

693
00:48:41,715 --> 00:48:44,995
Speaker 1: Paul kama Weiss. You remember one of the stories before

694
00:48:45,075 --> 00:48:49,835
Speaker 1: Signal Gates. Bannon was typically filled with violent fantasies, but

695
00:48:49,915 --> 00:48:52,675
Speaker 1: this time they had a difference. He is self editing.

696
00:48:53,035 --> 00:48:56,235
Speaker 1: Let me quote Bannon, you only beat them by hitting

697
00:48:56,275 --> 00:48:59,115
Speaker 1: them upside the head with a two x four. That's

698
00:48:59,115 --> 00:49:05,915
Speaker 1: a metaphor, put their heads on pikes. Metaphor metaphor unquote

699
00:49:07,035 --> 00:49:09,675
Speaker 1: ten second quote He used the word metaphor three times.

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00:49:10,515 --> 00:49:15,155
Speaker 1: Gotta say, without the violent threats, it ain't much of

701
00:49:15,195 --> 00:49:18,915
Speaker 1: a show anymore, Steve. Huh. But our winner, speaking of

702
00:49:18,955 --> 00:49:22,715
Speaker 1: all threats, it's Bill Maher. So I've mentioned before. Bill

703
00:49:22,755 --> 00:49:26,915
Speaker 1: Maher has gotten imperceptibly but steadily dumber every day that

704
00:49:26,995 --> 00:49:29,035
Speaker 1: I've known him, and I've known him since about this

705
00:49:29,115 --> 00:49:33,915
Speaker 1: time of year in nineteen seventy eight. Now he says

706
00:49:33,955 --> 00:49:38,075
Speaker 1: he has a new friend, Kid Rock. How dumb do

707
00:49:38,075 --> 00:49:39,995
Speaker 1: you have to be to have Kid Rock as a

708
00:49:40,035 --> 00:49:42,395
Speaker 1: friend as a new friend, Like you just made a

709
00:49:42,395 --> 00:49:46,635
Speaker 1: deliberate choice to become friends with Kid Rock. It's like

710
00:49:46,675 --> 00:49:49,435
Speaker 1: saying I've just made the deliberate choice to get a

711
00:49:49,515 --> 00:49:54,755
Speaker 1: venereal disease. Those two topics are not connected, Kid Rock

712
00:49:54,795 --> 00:49:58,635
Speaker 1: and venereal disease. Quoting mar, I mean Kid Rock was

713
00:49:58,635 --> 00:50:00,355
Speaker 1: here a couple of weeks ago. I want you to

714
00:50:00,435 --> 00:50:02,475
Speaker 1: meet Trump. He said, I'm going to take you to

715
00:50:02,475 --> 00:50:06,395
Speaker 1: the White House. So now we're going. Good plan. Bill.

716
00:50:06,955 --> 00:50:09,715
Speaker 1: If Kid rockets stopped by and said I want you

717
00:50:09,755 --> 00:50:11,995
Speaker 1: to meet Hitler, I'm gonna take you to Hell, would

718
00:50:12,035 --> 00:50:15,915
Speaker 1: we've gone there? Actually, now that I think of it,

719
00:50:16,795 --> 00:50:19,275
Speaker 1: if there were girls there, Yeah, probably would have gone

720
00:50:19,315 --> 00:50:23,515
Speaker 1: to anyway. Mar was on this podcast. He also said

721
00:50:23,555 --> 00:50:26,155
Speaker 1: he's convinced Musk is not doing what he's doing to

722
00:50:26,155 --> 00:50:31,395
Speaker 1: get richer. Bill's kind of naive at times. Quote he

723
00:50:31,435 --> 00:50:34,275
Speaker 1: does not care about money, which circles back to my

724
00:50:34,315 --> 00:50:37,915
Speaker 1: earlier point about Bill getting dumber every year, every month,

725
00:50:38,035 --> 00:50:41,275
Speaker 1: every week, every day. And he insists he is going

726
00:50:41,275 --> 00:50:43,595
Speaker 1: to go to the White House. Quote, that's my model

727
00:50:43,635 --> 00:50:46,835
Speaker 1: for meeting Trump. It's like be respectful, which he deserves.

728
00:50:47,035 --> 00:50:54,315
Speaker 1: He won not once but twice. All right, how many

729
00:50:54,355 --> 00:50:57,515
Speaker 1: people in life have won and you wouldn't cross the

730
00:50:57,595 --> 00:51:00,035
Speaker 1: street to meet them. You're gonna go to the White

731
00:51:00,035 --> 00:51:04,915
Speaker 1: House to meet this turd. It's funny, Mar continued. Girl

732
00:51:04,955 --> 00:51:06,875
Speaker 1: said to me, what are you gonna wear? I said,

733
00:51:06,915 --> 00:51:10,915
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna dress like Zelenski. There's news in there

734
00:51:10,955 --> 00:51:15,835
Speaker 1: by the way, Bill, Bill has a new girl. Bill's

735
00:51:15,835 --> 00:51:18,275
Speaker 1: new girl has been in the country long enough that

736
00:51:18,315 --> 00:51:22,515
Speaker 1: she can speak English. Bill His new girl has been

737
00:51:22,555 --> 00:51:26,275
Speaker 1: in the country long enough she can speak English. Anastagia

738
00:51:26,395 --> 00:51:37,275
Speaker 1: dot com Mar two days other worst person in the world. Now,

739
00:51:37,635 --> 00:51:40,275
Speaker 1: while I'm here, it's worth giving you the whole background

740
00:51:40,315 --> 00:51:43,835
Speaker 1: about Bill maher Like I said, my history with him

741
00:51:43,915 --> 00:51:48,315
Speaker 1: dates to the nineteen seventies, and it sat there unrevealed

742
00:51:48,915 --> 00:51:53,395
Speaker 1: for thirty years until one day it all flashed over

743
00:51:53,475 --> 00:51:59,835
Speaker 1: me like this. Sometime in nineteen eighty five or nineteen

744
00:51:59,875 --> 00:52:03,715
Speaker 1: eighty six, I saw a movie on cable called DC

745
00:52:04,075 --> 00:52:06,875
Speaker 1: Cabs a character, and it clearly the actor portraying him

746
00:52:06,915 --> 00:52:09,635
Speaker 1: was talented and funny. But for some reason I felt

747
00:52:09,635 --> 00:52:12,555
Speaker 1: like I knew him from somewhere, and I really didn't

748
00:52:12,675 --> 00:52:16,195
Speaker 1: like him. I remember the feeling was so strong that

749
00:52:16,315 --> 00:52:18,515
Speaker 1: I stuck around to watch the credits to find out

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00:52:18,555 --> 00:52:25,195
Speaker 1: who he was. His name was Bill Mayher mher Well.

751
00:52:25,235 --> 00:52:27,835
Speaker 1: I had a teacher named Bill Mayer, but his name

752
00:52:27,875 --> 00:52:29,555
Speaker 1: had a y in it. He was my advisor in

753
00:52:29,635 --> 00:52:32,835
Speaker 1: high school. Now it wasn't him, but I knew three things.

754
00:52:32,835 --> 00:52:35,995
Speaker 1: He was talented, I didn't like him, and I knew

755
00:52:36,035 --> 00:52:39,635
Speaker 1: him from somewhere. This is pre internet, of course, so

756
00:52:39,675 --> 00:52:41,875
Speaker 1: no way to find out where I knew him from.

757
00:52:42,395 --> 00:52:45,555
Speaker 1: Hallowell's annual film guide would be my best bet. Maybe

758
00:52:45,555 --> 00:52:48,755
Speaker 1: he'd be in the new one coming out checked calendar

759
00:52:49,395 --> 00:52:53,275
Speaker 1: just eight or nine months from now. Eventually I found

760
00:52:53,275 --> 00:52:55,355
Speaker 1: out Bill Maher was in the year ahead of mine

761
00:52:55,395 --> 00:52:58,315
Speaker 1: at Cornell University. He was not at my radio station,

762
00:52:58,395 --> 00:53:00,875
Speaker 1: he was not in my college. Maybe I knew him

763
00:53:00,875 --> 00:53:03,875
Speaker 1: from a class somewhere. I could never nail it down.

764
00:53:04,715 --> 00:53:06,795
Speaker 1: I like to say I have a photographic memory, but

765
00:53:06,835 --> 00:53:10,555
Speaker 1: it's all polaroids, and I haven't always bothered to label them.

766
00:53:11,395 --> 00:53:13,955
Speaker 1: Almost everything that ever happened he is stuck inside this

767
00:53:14,075 --> 00:53:18,635
Speaker 1: big empty head of mine. But often key details like who, what, when,

768
00:53:18,715 --> 00:53:24,875
Speaker 1: and where are just missing. Never wrote him down, and honestly,

769
00:53:24,915 --> 00:53:26,995
Speaker 1: in this case, it was not worth the effort. I

770
00:53:27,035 --> 00:53:31,075
Speaker 1: knew I was was the right word. The word was aware.

771
00:53:31,235 --> 00:53:34,355
Speaker 1: Of him when we were both in college. Occasionally, especially

772
00:53:34,435 --> 00:53:37,595
Speaker 1: after I went from ESPN to MSNBC in nineteen ninety seven,

773
00:53:37,955 --> 00:53:41,435
Speaker 1: a writer would note the coincidence of university and years

774
00:53:41,475 --> 00:53:43,635
Speaker 1: and ask me about it, and I would say just

775
00:53:43,675 --> 00:53:45,515
Speaker 1: that I don't remember if he was in a class

776
00:53:45,555 --> 00:53:48,395
Speaker 1: with me or I knew him somehow, But I was

777
00:53:48,515 --> 00:53:53,155
Speaker 1: aware of Bill Maher, and then twenty two years ago,

778
00:53:53,195 --> 00:53:56,315
Speaker 1: this month, November twenty third, two thousand, I went on

779
00:53:56,355 --> 00:53:59,195
Speaker 1: his old show, Politically Incorrect, used to be the late

780
00:53:59,275 --> 00:54:02,395
Speaker 1: night show on ABC. This was when I was doing

781
00:54:02,435 --> 00:54:05,515
Speaker 1: sports for Fox in LA and it wasn't all sports episode.

782
00:54:05,595 --> 00:54:08,795
Speaker 1: Lennox Lewis, the boxer, Mark Cuban, the owner of the

783
00:54:08,875 --> 00:54:11,715
Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks, Todd Zeal the first basement of the New

784
00:54:11,755 --> 00:54:15,235
Speaker 1: York Mets, and me from Fox Sports. When I met

785
00:54:15,315 --> 00:54:17,835
Speaker 1: Bill Maher before the show, I asked him about Cornell

786
00:54:17,875 --> 00:54:19,435
Speaker 1: and whether or not we ran into each other. I

787
00:54:19,435 --> 00:54:21,635
Speaker 1: didn't know anybody there. I didn't see anybody. I didn't

788
00:54:21,675 --> 00:54:24,115
Speaker 1: go comedy anywhere. I didn't talk to anybody. I didn't

789
00:54:24,115 --> 00:54:29,355
Speaker 1: meet you. Okay, excuse me. That settles it. Except during

790
00:54:29,395 --> 00:54:32,075
Speaker 1: the recording of the show when Mark contradicted me. On

791
00:54:32,115 --> 00:54:35,835
Speaker 1: some point I got angry at him, and there was

792
00:54:35,835 --> 00:54:39,155
Speaker 1: no reason to get angry at him, so I dismissed

793
00:54:39,195 --> 00:54:41,195
Speaker 1: the anger, and I dismissed the moment. Except on the

794
00:54:41,235 --> 00:54:46,115
Speaker 1: way home, I kept thinking, I know him from school somehow,

795
00:54:46,675 --> 00:54:50,795
Speaker 1: no matter what he says, and I know I didn't

796
00:54:51,075 --> 00:54:56,315
Speaker 1: like him in school. In the next decade, Bill switched

797
00:54:56,315 --> 00:54:58,915
Speaker 1: to his weekly HBO political show, and I went back

798
00:54:58,915 --> 00:55:01,995
Speaker 1: and turned MSNBC into a political network. And the Internet

799
00:55:02,075 --> 00:55:05,355
Speaker 1: happened so that Cornell juxtaposition became easier for for reporters

800
00:55:05,395 --> 00:55:09,075
Speaker 1: to stumble over, so I would tell them the same thing.

801
00:55:09,475 --> 00:55:12,075
Speaker 1: I can't remember the details, but for twenty nine years

802
00:55:12,075 --> 00:55:14,715
Speaker 1: now I have been convinced I was aware of Bill

803
00:55:14,795 --> 00:55:19,795
Speaker 1: Maher at Cornell. Finally came the day March twentieth, two

804
00:55:19,795 --> 00:55:22,635
Speaker 1: thousand and nine, when they asked me to go on

805
00:55:22,795 --> 00:55:27,275
Speaker 1: real time and Bill Maher Cornell University seventy eight asked

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00:55:27,315 --> 00:55:31,675
Speaker 1: me Cornell University seventy nine, something about colleges, and I said, well,

807
00:55:31,715 --> 00:55:33,515
Speaker 1: as you know, we overlapped at Cornell, and I don't

808
00:55:33,515 --> 00:55:35,475
Speaker 1: know if we met, but I was aware of you there.

809
00:55:36,155 --> 00:55:39,675
Speaker 1: And he interrupted and said, no, you weren't, and I

810
00:55:39,755 --> 00:55:43,035
Speaker 1: just went back and answered his question. Now, after every

811
00:55:43,035 --> 00:55:46,355
Speaker 1: episode of his program, Mar has or at least had

812
00:55:46,395 --> 00:55:50,675
Speaker 1: a little party backstage, I mean, catered with booze and

813
00:55:50,715 --> 00:55:53,475
Speaker 1: with more guests than there are people in the studio audience,

814
00:55:53,715 --> 00:55:56,955
Speaker 1: and usually a bunch of models. Having done that show

815
00:55:57,035 --> 00:55:59,835
Speaker 1: four times, where they will fly you in first class

816
00:55:59,835 --> 00:56:01,595
Speaker 1: and put you up for the weekend in LA just

817
00:56:01,675 --> 00:56:05,915
Speaker 1: to do their show, and there's a party. I began

818
00:56:06,115 --> 00:56:08,955
Speaker 1: to suspect that, like many of the guests, Bill Maher

819
00:56:08,995 --> 00:56:13,995
Speaker 1: does the show just so he can have the party. Anyway.

820
00:56:14,795 --> 00:56:17,155
Speaker 1: Not long after it started, it overcomes Mar and he's

821
00:56:17,195 --> 00:56:20,635
Speaker 1: mad at me. And mind you, even if his allegation

822
00:56:20,715 --> 00:56:23,555
Speaker 1: that he is five feet eight is correct, I'm just

823
00:56:23,675 --> 00:56:25,555
Speaker 1: under six', four so he's giving up a lot of

824
00:56:25,595 --> 00:56:28,635
Speaker 1: height during an, argument and he starts yapping about HOW

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00:56:28,675 --> 00:56:30,075
Speaker 1: i should stop SAYING i was a way heir of

826
00:56:30,155 --> 00:56:32,475
Speaker 1: him At cornell And i'm just trying to get publicity

827
00:56:32,475 --> 00:56:34,555
Speaker 1: off something that never. Happened and who could remember that

828
00:56:34,675 --> 00:56:38,035
Speaker 1: kind of crap? Anyway and he never talked to anybody

829
00:56:38,035 --> 00:56:40,315
Speaker 1: in four years in college because, quote except for The

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Speaker 1: Ethica High school, STUDENTS i sold drugs to, unquote AND

831
00:56:44,555 --> 00:56:49,075
Speaker 1: i notice he's getting, heated and this is just triggering

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00:56:49,555 --> 00:56:53,155
Speaker 1: that core belief of mine THAT i was aware of

833
00:56:53,275 --> 00:56:56,955
Speaker 1: him in college AND i didn't like, Him and now

834
00:56:56,995 --> 00:57:00,635
Speaker 1: it becomes clear to me he didn't like me. Either

835
00:57:02,315 --> 00:57:05,235
Speaker 1: he's getting loud enough and he's swinging his arm around

836
00:57:05,275 --> 00:57:07,875
Speaker 1: now and it looks kind of, funny but apparently it

837
00:57:07,915 --> 00:57:10,995
Speaker 1: happens in the office. Sometimes and this is When Scott,

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00:57:11,035 --> 00:57:14,395
Speaker 1: carter who was the executive producer WHOM i definitely did

839
00:57:14,515 --> 00:57:16,955
Speaker 1: know since like nineteen ninety two when he worked At

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00:57:16,995 --> 00:57:20,315
Speaker 1: Comedy central with my Friend Alan, Havy Scott carter comes

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00:57:20,315 --> 00:57:24,675
Speaker 1: over to defuse the. Situation scott was a three piece

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00:57:24,675 --> 00:57:27,275
Speaker 1: suit kind of guy with a thumbs tucking the, vest

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00:57:27,555 --> 00:57:31,235
Speaker 1: who would call a group of men, fellows as in say.

844
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Speaker 1: Fellows So scott comes over and, says say fellows with

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Speaker 1: Your cornell alumni reunion, here and of course this Makes

846
00:57:39,835 --> 00:57:42,675
Speaker 1: Bill maher even. Angrier let me ask you. SOMETHING i

847
00:57:42,755 --> 00:57:45,875
Speaker 1: used to drive down From hobart to see concerts At.

848
00:57:45,875 --> 00:57:48,275
Speaker 1: Cornell have to, SAY i Think cornell was the leading

849
00:57:48,355 --> 00:57:52,395
Speaker 1: concert school in the nation back in our. Day and

850
00:57:52,435 --> 00:57:55,035
Speaker 1: Now scott starts the list who he saw in concert

851
00:57:55,035 --> 00:57:58,675
Speaker 1: At Cornell Robert palmer and the Famous Grateful dead concert

852
00:57:58,675 --> 00:58:01,835
Speaker 1: At cornell At Barton. Hall he was. There AND i,

853
00:58:01,875 --> 00:58:04,595
Speaker 1: SAY i went To, springsteen And mar mumbles something About

854
00:58:04,835 --> 00:58:07,315
Speaker 1: loggins And, messina AND i know What carter is doing.

855
00:58:07,395 --> 00:58:10,275
Speaker 1: Here he's, Diffusing and we do a couple of rounds

856
00:58:10,275 --> 00:58:13,195
Speaker 1: of who saw Which cornell? Concert and FINALLY i, SAY

857
00:58:13,275 --> 00:58:16,955
Speaker 1: i can top both of you comic. GENIUSES i Saw

858
00:58:17,355 --> 00:58:22,595
Speaker 1: Robert kleine in concert At. Cornell now it is, criminal

859
00:58:23,395 --> 00:58:26,035
Speaker 1: but there's an excellent chance you may not know Who

860
00:58:26,115 --> 00:58:31,395
Speaker 1: Robert kline, is suffice to say as prominent a comedian

861
00:58:31,435 --> 00:58:34,915
Speaker 1: in the sixties seventies eighties As George carlin Or richard PRYOR.

862
00:58:35,435 --> 00:58:39,915
Speaker 1: Hbo itself was built on Annual George carlin concerts and

863
00:58:40,075 --> 00:58:44,795
Speaker 1: Annual Robert klin concerts and everybody. Else And Robert kline

864
00:58:44,875 --> 00:58:47,795
Speaker 1: wasn't quite as deep or eternal As George, carlin but

865
00:58:47,835 --> 00:58:51,155
Speaker 1: he was really on the money During watergate and During.

866
00:58:51,235 --> 00:58:54,795
Speaker 1: Reagan SO i, SAY i Saw Robert klein in concert At,

867
00:58:54,795 --> 00:58:58,995
Speaker 1: cornell And mar looks at me funny and not, angrily

868
00:58:59,035 --> 00:59:04,035
Speaker 1: and says, QUIETLY i was at that. TOO i Saw

869
00:59:04,115 --> 00:59:07,635
Speaker 1: Robert klink, two AND i don't really register That mar's

870
00:59:07,715 --> 00:59:11,995
Speaker 1: mood has now utterly. Changed he's not, angry he's. Confused,

871
00:59:12,515 --> 00:59:14,875
Speaker 1: WELL i, SAY i can still top, you because after

872
00:59:14,915 --> 00:59:19,635
Speaker 1: that CONCERT i Interviewed Robert. Klein Now Bill maher starts to,

873
00:59:19,715 --> 00:59:23,075
Speaker 1: squint and he looks at, me and he looks At Scott,

874
00:59:23,115 --> 00:59:25,195
Speaker 1: carter and he looks back at, me and he, says,

875
00:59:26,035 --> 00:59:33,315
Speaker 1: WAIT i Interviewed kleine after that concert. Too And i'm

876
00:59:33,355 --> 00:59:35,915
Speaker 1: smiling through all, this and smiling and smiling and, smiling

877
00:59:35,955 --> 00:59:39,475
Speaker 1: and then, suddenly simultaneously it Hits Bill maher and me

878
00:59:39,595 --> 00:59:41,795
Speaker 1: at the same, moment in the same fullness of, detail

879
00:59:41,915 --> 00:59:44,675
Speaker 1: AND i stop, smiling AND i shout At Bill, maher

880
00:59:45,235 --> 00:59:49,035
Speaker 1: You and he pulls his arms in towards his stomach

881
00:59:49,115 --> 00:59:51,635
Speaker 1: and kind of bends forward at the waist and covers

882
00:59:51,635 --> 00:59:53,755
Speaker 1: his face with his, hands and he, says Oh, God

883
00:59:53,795 --> 00:59:56,315
Speaker 1: i'm so, Sorry, jesus it can't. Be i'm, Sorry i'm.

884
00:59:56,315 --> 01:00:00,915
Speaker 1: Sorry and while the anger wells up inside me so,

885
01:00:01,035 --> 01:00:03,635
Speaker 1: POWERFULLY i can almost see it in my own, Eyeballs

886
01:00:04,715 --> 01:00:09,435
Speaker 1: Bill maher's concert going Producer Scott carter is really. Confused, say,

887
01:00:09,515 --> 01:00:12,515
Speaker 1: fellows DID i miss something or DID i have a

888
01:00:12,555 --> 01:00:17,595
Speaker 1: brief stroke or? Episode AND i, Say, bill AND i

889
01:00:17,875 --> 01:00:21,955
Speaker 1: just remembered HOW i happened to be aware of him in.

890
01:00:22,075 --> 01:00:25,835
Speaker 1: School And mar still has got his hands over his

891
01:00:25,915 --> 01:00:29,395
Speaker 1: face and people are looking at, us And bill is shouting,

892
01:00:29,435 --> 01:00:32,835
Speaker 1: apologies AND i, say you want to tell? Him or SHOULD?

893
01:00:32,875 --> 01:00:36,715
Speaker 1: I And mar just shakes his body no and, mumbles Oh,

894
01:00:36,755 --> 01:00:38,955
Speaker 1: god you do. IT i, CAN'T i, CAN'T i, Can't

895
01:00:39,595 --> 01:00:43,355
Speaker 1: and it all came back to. Me for, YEARS i

896
01:00:43,395 --> 01:00:46,715
Speaker 1: would tell people the story of The Robert klein concert

897
01:00:46,755 --> 01:00:51,075
Speaker 1: At Cornell university in nineteen seventy. Eight our radio station

898
01:00:51,195 --> 01:00:54,355
Speaker 1: co sponsored his appearance along with The Cornell Concert, commission

899
01:00:54,555 --> 01:00:58,115
Speaker 1: and in the contract we specified that a couple of

900
01:00:58,155 --> 01:01:00,675
Speaker 1: us real comedy nerds at the radio station would get

901
01:01:00,675 --> 01:01:03,915
Speaker 1: to go backstage afterwards and tape a brief ten or

902
01:01:03,955 --> 01:01:08,115
Speaker 1: fifteen minute interview With Robert. Klin, basically we paid him not,

903
01:01:08,315 --> 01:01:11,755
Speaker 1: much but we paid him to do an. Interview and

904
01:01:11,835 --> 01:01:14,955
Speaker 1: when my Pal Andy grossman AND i get backstage to

905
01:01:15,035 --> 01:01:17,315
Speaker 1: talk To Robert, klein and we have our two microphones

906
01:01:17,355 --> 01:01:19,915
Speaker 1: and two mike stands and three tape, recorders there is this,

907
01:01:20,035 --> 01:01:25,035
Speaker 1: guy this short, guy and he's yelling at the chief

908
01:01:25,115 --> 01:01:28,435
Speaker 1: of The Corneill Concert, commission and he's yelling At Robert clin's,

909
01:01:28,435 --> 01:01:30,595
Speaker 1: manager and he's demanding that he should get to Interview

910
01:01:30,675 --> 01:01:33,075
Speaker 1: Robert clin, because Like, klein this kid says he is

911
01:01:33,075 --> 01:01:35,875
Speaker 1: a stand up comedian and he publishes The Cornell Humor.

912
01:01:35,915 --> 01:01:38,155
Speaker 1: Magazine and he points at me and he says he

913
01:01:38,195 --> 01:01:43,355
Speaker 1: should get priority over these quote corporate sellouts from The

914
01:01:43,395 --> 01:01:51,235
Speaker 1: Cornell radio. STATION i hated him on. Site oh, WAIT

915
01:01:51,875 --> 01:01:54,075
Speaker 1: i say to him in nineteen seventy. Eight and he's

916
01:01:54,115 --> 01:01:56,835
Speaker 1: small and he's got, dirty stringy hair and he's, loud

917
01:01:57,315 --> 01:02:00,675
Speaker 1: AND i, say you are the publisher of The Cornell humor,

918
01:02:00,755 --> 01:02:04,155
Speaker 1: magazine The Cornell. Widow and he snorts and SAYS i

919
01:02:04,155 --> 01:02:08,715
Speaker 1: would get dead publishing that corporate, Sellout Cornell. Widow and

920
01:02:08,755 --> 01:02:11,235
Speaker 1: SO i, say oh, so then that means you're the

921
01:02:11,235 --> 01:02:15,115
Speaker 1: publisher of The Cornell Alternative humor, magazine The Not So

922
01:02:15,315 --> 01:02:17,515
Speaker 1: Big red or whatever it is they call. It he,

923
01:02:17,555 --> 01:02:20,835
Speaker 1: says no, way they are corporate. SELLOUTS i publish. This

924
01:02:21,835 --> 01:02:25,115
Speaker 1: and he pulls out a stack of mimeographed pages stapled

925
01:02:25,155 --> 01:02:28,115
Speaker 1: together and there's like a drawing on the front of

926
01:02:28,155 --> 01:02:32,395
Speaker 1: a naked girl and. Handwritten it says it's his comedy.

927
01:02:32,515 --> 01:02:37,155
Speaker 1: Magazine AND i look At Robert klein's manager AND i, say,

928
01:02:38,355 --> 01:02:41,555
Speaker 1: so it's ten. O'clock and if you leave now while

929
01:02:41,595 --> 01:02:44,035
Speaker 1: this idiot is screwing this, up the limo can still

930
01:02:44,075 --> 01:02:47,675
Speaker 1: get Mister klein To elaine's in the city before it, closes,

931
01:02:47,835 --> 01:02:51,355
Speaker 1: Right and the manager is wildly, impressed you know Of.

932
01:02:51,395 --> 01:02:54,955
Speaker 1: Elaine's AND i said, yes AND i felt like an.

933
01:02:54,955 --> 01:02:57,955
Speaker 1: Adult AND i also, said if we give this guy

934
01:02:58,035 --> 01:03:00,235
Speaker 1: five minutes of our time right now while we're setting

935
01:03:00,275 --> 01:03:02,115
Speaker 1: up our tape, recorders can we still have ten minutes

936
01:03:02,155 --> 01:03:05,275
Speaker 1: with Mister. Klein and the manager, says good. PLAN i

937
01:03:05,355 --> 01:03:07,035
Speaker 1: like the way you, think and he points to the

938
01:03:07,115 --> 01:03:10,235
Speaker 1: kid and gestures for him to come. Along, no the kid,

939
01:03:10,315 --> 01:03:13,395
Speaker 1: SHOUTS i want half an. Hour these corporate sellouts deserve.

940
01:03:13,515 --> 01:03:19,595
Speaker 1: Nothing and Now i'm getting. ANGRY i, say, buddy so

941
01:03:19,755 --> 01:03:22,955
Speaker 1: far all the corporations in the world have paid me

942
01:03:23,595 --> 01:03:27,555
Speaker 1: about one hundred. Bucks SO i threaten. Him, now mind,

943
01:03:27,595 --> 01:03:30,155
Speaker 1: YOU i believe this is literally. True since nineteen sixty,

944
01:03:30,195 --> 01:03:31,875
Speaker 1: seven WHEN i was eight years, OLD i have started

945
01:03:31,915 --> 01:03:36,195
Speaker 1: two fistfights two in fifty five. YEARS i am a

946
01:03:36,235 --> 01:03:40,035
Speaker 1: man of. PEACE i am, loud BUT i am a

947
01:03:40,075 --> 01:03:45,475
Speaker 1: man of. Peace BUT i say to this, guy you

948
01:03:46,475 --> 01:03:50,115
Speaker 1: now have two, choices, kid five minutes With Robert klein

949
01:03:50,755 --> 01:03:54,515
Speaker 1: OR i hit you in the. Face and he runs

950
01:03:54,555 --> 01:03:56,835
Speaker 1: to where client's manager is still gesturing towards, him and

951
01:03:56,835 --> 01:04:00,995
Speaker 1: he screams corporate sell, out and he disappears to do his,

952
01:04:01,035 --> 01:04:04,995
Speaker 1: interview and behind him he leaves his little home made

953
01:04:05,035 --> 01:04:08,435
Speaker 1: mimeograph ten or twelve page humor. Publication AND i pick it,

954
01:04:08,515 --> 01:04:12,635
Speaker 1: up AND i read it and register it and dismiss

955
01:04:12,675 --> 01:04:15,595
Speaker 1: it BEFORE i leave the. Building and IF i had

956
01:04:15,595 --> 01:04:18,035
Speaker 1: only remembered what it said on the, cover all the

957
01:04:18,155 --> 01:04:20,275
Speaker 1: years of mystery AND i was aware of, him and

958
01:04:20,275 --> 01:04:22,835
Speaker 1: all that would never have, happened because the cover of

959
01:04:22,875 --> 01:04:28,395
Speaker 1: the magazine Read Bill Maher's Comedy magazine By Bill. Maher

960
01:04:30,275 --> 01:04:35,115
Speaker 1: and now back in well technically this is, correct back

961
01:04:35,155 --> 01:04:37,995
Speaker 1: in real. Time at the party in The hollywood studio

962
01:04:38,035 --> 01:04:40,235
Speaker 1: in two thousand and, nine the Producer Scott carter says,

963
01:04:40,275 --> 01:04:43,595
Speaker 1: nothing And Bill maher is still doubled over in, shame

964
01:04:43,715 --> 01:04:47,955
Speaker 1: AND i, say are you satisfied THAT i was aware of?

965
01:04:47,995 --> 01:04:52,315
Speaker 1: You and he mumbles, Yes AND i, say will you

966
01:04:52,435 --> 01:04:57,115
Speaker 1: ever question my? Memory? Again and he mumbles, no and he,

967
01:04:57,195 --> 01:05:00,155
Speaker 1: says IF i need him to do my show or

968
01:05:00,195 --> 01:05:03,395
Speaker 1: a charity benefit or, something just. Call and he says he's,

969
01:05:03,395 --> 01:05:05,675
Speaker 1: ashamed and he offer to be his hand to, shake

970
01:05:05,715 --> 01:05:08,035
Speaker 1: and we, shake and FINALLY i, say and by the,

971
01:05:08,075 --> 01:05:10,875
Speaker 1: Way Bill maher Of Bill Maher's Comedy magazine By Bill,

972
01:05:10,915 --> 01:05:15,595
Speaker 1: maher are you a corporate? Sellout and he says Kind

973
01:05:16,835 --> 01:05:21,435
Speaker 1: and that's HOW i was aware Of Bill maher in.

974
01:05:21,555 --> 01:05:36,835
Speaker 1: College i've done all the DAMAGE i can do. Here

975
01:05:36,875 --> 01:05:42,715
Speaker 1: thank you for. Listening you, KNOW i was thinking MAYBE

976
01:05:42,715 --> 01:05:45,195
Speaker 1: i should get on this signal App this thing sounds

977
01:05:45,195 --> 01:05:50,555
Speaker 1: like a lot of. Fun better THAN. X Brian ray

978
01:05:50,555 --> 01:05:53,355
Speaker 1: And John Phillip. Shanelle the musical directors Have Countdown arrange

979
01:05:53,355 --> 01:05:56,675
Speaker 1: produced and performed most of our. Music Mister chanelle handled

980
01:05:56,715 --> 01:05:59,915
Speaker 1: orchestration and, Keyboards Mister ray was on, guitars bass and,

981
01:05:59,995 --> 01:06:03,395
Speaker 1: drums and it was produced By Tko. Brothers our satirical

982
01:06:03,395 --> 01:06:06,715
Speaker 1: and pithy musical comments are by the best baseball stadium organist,

983
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Speaker 1: Ever Nancy. Faust the sports music is The olberman theme

984
01:06:10,235 --> 01:06:14,115
Speaker 1: FROM espn, two written By Mitch Warren davis courtesy OF, Espn.

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01:06:14,195 --> 01:06:17,795
Speaker 1: Inc other music arranged and performed by the Group No Horns.

986
01:06:17,835 --> 01:06:23,595
Speaker 1: Allowed my announcer today was Also Nancy. Faust everything else,

987
01:06:23,755 --> 01:06:27,235
Speaker 1: was as ever my. Fault that's countdown for, Today just one,

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Speaker 1: thousand three hundred and ninety six days until the scheduled

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01:06:30,755 --> 01:06:33,555
Speaker 1: end of his lane duck and lame brain, term Unless

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01:06:33,675 --> 01:06:37,915
Speaker 1: musk removes him sooner or the actuarial tables. Do the

991
01:06:37,995 --> 01:06:41,995
Speaker 1: next scheduled countdown Is. Monday as, always boldens as the news.

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Speaker 1: Warrants remember in Peach trump it won't work, now it

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01:06:45,275 --> 01:06:50,995
Speaker 1: will Win democrats the midterms if there are midterms until next.

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01:06:50,995 --> 01:06:53,555
Speaker 1: Time I'm Keith. Olberman good, morning good, afternoon good, night

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01:06:54,195 --> 01:07:20,875
Speaker 1: and we'll wait for it. Here Good. Luck countdown With

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01:07:21,035 --> 01:07:25,555
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