WEBVTT - The American Dream with Dr. Ben Carson 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:03.600 I am so excited about this next guest for the show. 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:05.560 I know my mom is excited as well. She's a 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:09.480 huge fan. It's Dr Ben Carson. There are so many 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:11.799 things I want to speak with him about. I mean, 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:15.440 the man is just remarkable. He grew up in poverty 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:19.720 in Detroit, Michigan, and then went on to just accomplish 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:23.160 tremendous success. I mean, the success that no one achieves, right, 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:26.120 just trement. I mean. He became the director of pediatric 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:30.000 Neurosurgery at John Hopkins at thirty three, the youngest to 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:35.080 head a major division in the hospital's history. In seven 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:38.280 he led a seventy member team that performed the first 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.800 successful surgery to separate conjoined twins connected at the back 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:44.159 of the head. And because of his work, he's received 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.960 numerous honors for his neurosurgery work. He's been named the 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.600 nation's you know, one of the nation's most foremost physicians 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.520 and scientists. In his past, I mean, the Library of 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:58.080 Congress is named him, you know, living legend. He's received 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:01.520 a Presidential Medal of Freedom. He's written best selling books. 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.000 He went on to run for president in sixteen and 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:08.720 then serve as Trump's secretary of Department of Housing and 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:12.319 Urban Development. I mean, the guy has just accomplished a 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:17.600 remarkable amount of achievements, and so I just want to 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:21.840 get his take on why him right? What did he 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.759 do differently? How how is he able to to get 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:28.440 out of Detroit and become this remarkable success not just 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.480 from someone who came from poverty, but just a success period, 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:33.840 you know what, And what does he think of today's 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.240 the state of the country. You know, what can we 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.480 do as a nation to move forward, to to be better, 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:43.319 to build a stronger country. And I want to get 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:45.800 his take on school choice. I know education has played 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.440 a huge role in his life. He talks about how 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.000 his mom really instilled that value in him, that she 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:54.640 really encouraged him to read books, to go to the library. 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:57.840 It was, you know, a prerequisite almost in their house 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:00.360 with his mom, and she really valued education and for 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:04.000 him because she saw it as an opportunity for upward mobility. 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:06.960 You know. So what would something like even school choice 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:09.840 in the country do for so many young people that 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:14.000 you know, maybe face additional challenges because of the zip 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:17.280 code that they were born into. So we're going to 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.200 talk about that. He's also been married to his wife 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:23.680 for almost fifty years. What's the importance of marriage? You know. 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.880 He's also previously talked about how God really changed his life, 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:30.240 how he grew up really angry and violent, and his 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.160 religion and his walk with God was life changing for 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.040 him that it allowed him to become the man that 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:39.120 he is today. So we're gonna talk about all of 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.240 this and also get into some of the political stuff 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.919 like the Joe Biden administration and a lot of different 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:45.680 things like that. So I think you're really gonna like 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:49.760 this one. Dr Ben Carson just a fascinating and extraordinarily 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:53.680 accomplished man. So I really hope you love this interview 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.240 with Dr Ben car said. Oh, and his latest book 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.160 is Created Equal and it is out just came out, 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.080 I believe in May, so I wanted to plug that 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.200 for him as well. But I hope you love this 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:16.880 interview with Dr Ben Carson. Dr Ben Carson, it is 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:18.560 such an honor to have you on the show. I 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:20.640 was telling you, my mom is such a fan. I 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:22.800 told her I was interviewing you, and she was like, 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:26.640 what was so excited? So make sure you tell I said, Hi, 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.799 You've just had such a remarkable life, such a remarkable career. 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.520 You know, you grew up in Detroit, Michigan, in poverty, 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.760 and why do you think you were able to get 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.160 out and turn your life? And is such a success 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.320 story when so many we're not well. I always say 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.000 if everybody had my mother, we wouldn't have any problems. 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.120 You know, she had less than a third grade education, 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:58.040 but she was really committed two idea of getting an education. 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.200 And when I was a terrible student, she was great 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:05.400 distress and she finally figured out what to do. She said, 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.520 you know, I'm a domestic I'm clearing all these wealthy 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.160 people's homes. I'm gonna a spy on them and see 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:15.000 what they're doing what makes them successful? And you know, 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.679 she concluded that it was reading books and not watching 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.600 a lot of TV. And she came home and imposed 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.599 that on me and my brother and we were not happy, 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.960 but we had to do it. And boy did that 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:32.599 have a revolution very effect on me as a person 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:37.920 as I started reading about all kinds of people of accomplishment, 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.400 and I began to understand that the person who has 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:43.280 the most to do it what happens to you is you, 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:47.279 not someone else. And that is still the case today. 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:51.040 You know. You take, for instance, I talked in my 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:56.680 newest book, Created Equal, about the wealth gap that so 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.760 many people talk about in this country side to attend 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:03.080 that explex the white and it does exist, there's no 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:10.080 question about that. But they say Ghanaians and Nigerians they're 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:14.800 black and there's no wealthcap. So what is it about 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.839 them that's different. It's not the color of this again, 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.560 it's that if you go to one of those families 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.600 and you look, you'll see that a Bansor's degree is 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:29.680 the baseline. They put such a premium education and a 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:34.640 big premium on family. And interestingly enough, if you take 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:39.919 traditional Black American families who have those same values, there's 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.680 not much as any wealthcap there either. So maybe we're 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.239 looking at the wrong things when we're looking to blame 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:49.840 everything on racism. And that's not to say that there 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:53.800 isn't some racism. But now, as as my mother used 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.880 to say, if you go into an auditorium full of 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:00.320 racists figuring white people, you don't have a problem. They 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.680 have a problem because they're all going to cringe and 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:04.320 wonder if you're going to sit next to them. You 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.720 can sit any where you want, and you know, basically 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:13.039 carrying that philosophy has allowed both me and my brother 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.520 did very well. And you talked about the importance of 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.280 your mother. I mean, I was sort of a handful 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.200 growing up. I don't know where I would be without 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.480 my parents just continuously putting me back in the right 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.680 direction in life. Why do you think as a society 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:30.960 we devalue the importance of family, Well, you know, family structure. 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:39.400 Even the Marxist who wrote about America years ago state 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:43.600 that one of the really strong pillars of America, why 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.440 it would be so hard to bring it down, was 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:52.120 the family structure, because that's where you get your values from, 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.960 that's where you get your identity from. And when that 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:02.080 begins to break down, you don't have an anchor, and 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:06.040 you become very easy to manipulate. And that's why so 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:09.320 many of our people today, particularly a lot of our 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:13.320 young people, just like blowing like leaves in the wind, 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.400 whichever way the wind is blowing, that's the way they're going, 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:22.360 and they don't have those strong values. You know, that's 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:26.160 one of the reasons we created American Cornerstone Institute. Look 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:30.160 at those cornerstone principles that made America great. We didn't 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:36.480 get to be great by accident. It was our faith, liberty, community, 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:42.400 and I respect for life. Those are key elements. And 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.840 as we got farther away from them and other things 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:50.720 began to infiltrate, then we began to spiral downward. But 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:55.080 I don't think it's inexorable. I don't think that it's 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.160 too late to change it. And that's why we're out 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.560 there preaching all the time. What was growing up in Detroit? Like, 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:06.320 it was interesting? Um, there were there was, you know, 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:14.040 significant areas that were nice areas quite frankly um where 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:18.040 there were black people who lived. But there were also 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:24.440 some pretty horrible slummy areas. But nothing they're compared to 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:28.680 what I witnessed when we got to Boston because my 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.559 parents got divorced after my mother discovered her husband was biggness, 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:35.880 and we didn't have a home for a while, but 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:39.839 some relatives in Boston took us in and it was 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:44.360 what you see on television in the tenement, horrible multi 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:48.280 family dwellings were boarded up, windows, endorsed, sirens and gangs, 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:52.680 wineos murders. Both of my favorite older cousins were killed. 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:58.959 I mean, it was a horrendous place, and yet you 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:04.280 could still find good people, you could find good things, 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:07.640 You could find libraries, you could find a place where 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:14.559 you could read. So even though it wasn't the ideal environment, uh, 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:19.800 it was something that you could make something out of. Now, 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:25.080 if you determine that you're a victim and then everything 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:29.280 is stacked against you, you're likely to react in a 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:34.400 very different way. Instead of looking for opportunities. You're going 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:39.040 to have a tendency to be complaining and groaning about things. 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:43.280 And let's just not to say that you should not 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:48.560 be unhappy when things are not going well, but you're 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:52.240 not going to solve that by just groaning and complaining 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.960 about it. You're going to solve that by making yourself 0:09:56.160 --> 0:10:01.880 valuable and then utilizing that position of value to improve 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.199 the situation. And I read that when you were a 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.120 fourteen I know you've talked about this before. You almost 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.320 took the life of another boy that the knife hit 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:13.520 the teenager's belt buckle and snapped. Afterwards, you prayed and 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:16.880 asked for God's help. How did God change your life? 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:22.880 Oh tremendously. You know. I had a horrendous temper and 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.360 when I would get angry, I just really didn't even 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:29.240 care about the consequences. I just wanted to hurt people. 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:33.760 It was terrible. And you know, I had turned things 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:39.839 around academically, had become, you know, a top student and 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:44.240 pursuing my goal of becoming a physician. But I realized 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.600 after the incident that you just described that I would 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.600 never become a physician. I would either be in jail, 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:54.760 reform school, or the grave. And I just said, Lord, 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:59.920 you know, unless you can change me, I'm domned well. 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:04.200 I was still in the in the midst of praying 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:08.679 and contemplating and reading the Bible, it dawned on me 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.280 that the reason that I was always angry is because 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:16.079 I was selfish, because everything was about me, me, my 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.800 and I. Somebody did this to me. It took my thing. 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.560 I want this, And I said, if you learn how 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.200 to take yourself out of the middle of the equation, 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:28.400 the anger will dissipate. That was the last day I 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.439 had an angry out earth. And people who know me 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.200 now just can't believe that I used to be angry, 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:39.520 because it really completely changed my life. And you know, 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:45.760 I have a very strong faith and God, and I 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:51.720 think that our country developed so rapidly and so well 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:56.520 because we were a country that had faith, and that faith, 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.800 for instance, taught us how to relate to our fellow man. 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:04.800 Aren't you d Christian values say love your neighbor, not 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:08.920 cancel your neighbor if they don't agree with you. You know, 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:14.319 we're allowing those great principles to be replaced by things 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:18.599 that are antithetical to the principles of success. Well, and 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.800 you've also been married for I believe forty seven years now, 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:24.760 Um is it forty seven years to talk about the 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:29.240 importance of marriage. I personally could never have accomplice to 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:33.520 think that I did without my wife by my side. 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:40.160 She's just a constant support for everything that I've always done. 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.600 She even learned how to play pool because I love 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.160 the play pool. She says, if I don't become a 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.640 good pool player, I won't be to have any quality time. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:54.120 But she's very good man. But she became a tackler cook, 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.800 a fantastic mom for my kids. You know. She helps 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:01.199 me with with my writing. With the latest book that 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:04.199 we did, she did a lot of the research for 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.120 that book, so I always acknowledge her on the cover 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:11.160 of the book. Um. And it just there was a 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:15.480 reason that that God fixed us up with the help 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:20.240 meet and with a companion for life. Quick commercial break 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.559 and then back with a great Dr Ben Carson on 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:28.600 the other side. You know, you look at the horrific 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.439 shooting that just took place, and you've all day Texas. 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.920 Why do you think as a society we keep turning out, 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.600 you know, these angry young men that take out their 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.679 anger on innocent people like that. Well, I think it 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.719 goes back to what we were talking about before, that 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:49.839 family structure where you get your values, where you get 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:55.880 your appreciation for life and for the feelings of other people. 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:00.760 And when you don't have that and you have this 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:04.240 constant barrage of things that we see in the media 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:10.040 and over social media, in particular me first, it's all 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:14.160 about me, and it's all about my feelings. And you know, 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.800 if you don't have something to counter that, it can 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:23.040 become pretty malignant pretty quickly. And I think we're seeing 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:27.920 that in our society, pure evil that is not being counteracted. 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:32.520 And if we don't get a handle on it, this 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.280 is only the beginning. It's going to get much worse 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.240 than this. And I know people are gonna come and say, well, 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.520 if we can get rid of the guns. Well, all 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.520 you have to if you're a student of history, you 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:51.440 recognize that before dictatorships occurred, they said let's get rid 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.040 of the guns. And they always have a good reason 0:14:54.160 --> 0:15:02.280 for it. China, Cambodia, Nazi Germany, Inezuela. You know, the 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.040 list goes on and on, get rid of the guns 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:10.120 and then tyranny. And there's no reason to suspect that 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.400 that wouldn't happen in this country too. And you look 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.840 at the country that had even more guns per capita 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:21.920 than leader Switzerland to have a very low incidence of 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:27.120 gun violence. But when you turn adult age, you get 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:31.000 a gun there and you get training on how to 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:34.840 use that gun and when to use that gun. And 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:38.720 I think what we're dealing with here is a people problem, 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.240 it's not a gun problem. And you talk about tyranny, 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.960 and you know, I admittedly, I mean, I've always been conservative. 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:48.160 I've always believed in liberty and freedom, but I don't 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.160 think I realized how fleeting it truly is until COVID, 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.680 and until we saw government try to overtake our lives. 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:58.520 As someone who is so renowned in the medical field, 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:03.520 what were you thinking throughout COVID and just what's your 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.000 takeaway from it? Well, you know, I was on the 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:11.680 COVID task Force and one of the things that disappointed 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:17.600 me tremendously was how the leaders of the task force 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:24.720 quickly dismissed any therapeutics that were brought up. Any It 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:30.720 had to be vaccine and vaccine only. And you see 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.320 where that led us not to a very good place. Uh. 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:39.040 No one would even acknowledge the role of natural immunity, 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.520 which we've known about, you know, since the Civil War 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:48.800 and smallpox. It's like natural immunity, what's that? How long 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:54.000 is that last? I mean, this is crazy. And you know, 0:16:54.400 --> 0:17:01.160 anytime something that looked promising, like hydroxychloroquine, uh, it was 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:07.000 immediately bad mouth. The same thing with ivan mactin surrounded 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:11.000 or anything that looked good. And yet those things have 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:14.480 worked so well in other parts of the world. You 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:17.840 look at Western Africa, on the Western Africa coast, there's 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:24.240 almost no COVID. Why Well, it seems very likely it's 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:30.680 because they take anti malarial called Hydroxychlorkland and uh. In 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:35.800 southern India in places they use iver macton, very little 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.280 COVID going on there too. Now, if we were smart, 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:44.800 we would look at those places and would say, is 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.520 there something going on there? There's something going on there 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:53.040 with these interventions, and we would put a lot of 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:57.560 emphasis on that. But instead we have the stupid f 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:02.520 DA rules that say you cannot have an emergency youth 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:09.120 authorization if you have another viable treatment. Therefore, in order 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.760 to get the emergency use authorization for the vaccine, you 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:17.119 had to say nothing else is available that works, and 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:21.960 that was very unfortunate for hundreds of thousands of people 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.760 in this country. It seems like the left really try 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:29.760 to use COVID to reshape society, oh without question, or 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:32.520 you know, you look at what happened with the election. 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:35.119 All of a sudden, you have people who are not 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:39.080 supposed to be making election rules because of the COVID 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:43.439 situation and the danger to society. All of a sudden, 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:47.600 they're changing all kinds of rules, and they're saying signatures 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.240 don't have to match, addresses don't have to match, it 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:55.000 doesn't matter what the date. Uh uh I mean, just 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:58.160 crazy stuff that would never be allowed in any other 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:04.720 uh issue. And we just say okay, and Paul Watchers, no, 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:07.080 you have to stand twenty five or a hundred feet away, 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.080 or we have to be outside the building looking in 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:12.440 the woman. I mean, just crazy stuff that makes absolutely 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:19.360 no sense was pushed through because of COVID. And hopefully 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:24.879 all Americans are concerned about this, not just you know, 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:28.720 one side or the other side, because we're talking about 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.480 the future of our country. We're talking about a democratic 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:38.760 republic that cannot exist without integrity and the voting system. 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:43.800 And you know, you can't emphasize that enough. If we 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:47.919 just sort of take a lazy fair attitudes, it's okay, 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:53.080 then we have signed the death warrant for our country. No, 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.159 I agree with you, sir, and I do think that 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:57.320 is incredibly important. I think that's why a lot of 0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:01.000 people are discouraged, you know, after action and feeling like 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.000 it was just really unfair. Uh. And there's a lot 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.200 of wrong that took place, you know. So I wanted 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:09.040 to ask you, So you have operated on babies inside 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.280 of a mother's womb. If you are operating on them, 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:16.640 how can democrats say that human life doesn't begin until birth? Well, 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:21.560 and it's pretty crazy mstiment. And why is it? Why 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:25.520 is it that if if you murder a woman who's pregnant, 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:29.640 you get charged with two counts of murder if if 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:32.520 that's not something that's alive. But since I hope that 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:36.600 would make any sense yet, that's why they accepted. So 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:44.320 it seems like selected Uh, it's very selective definitions of 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:48.800 when something is alive and when it isn't. And obviously, 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.920 you know, I feel very strong about it because you know, 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:57.560 I spent my whole professional career trying to save lives 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:04.880 in many cases little babies, sometimes very premature seven weeks 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:10.720 gast station um. And interestingly enough, you know, I've been 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:14.480 around long enough now, but I sometimes have an opportunity 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:23.320 to see the results. You know, adults, functional, productive adults, 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:29.840 wonderful people, and uh, you know it just reef enforces 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:34.359 the desire to make sure that people understand that what 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:37.960 is inside that mother's womb is not a meaningless bunch 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:40.040 of cells. Why do you think the left does that 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:43.200 though they try to reduce the value of human life 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:46.640 to just a club of cells. I think a lot 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.639 of it is because they don't really know and they 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:53.680 don't want to know. Um. But you'll notice that the 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:58.040 younger generation tends to have a larger number of people 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:02.600 who are pro life because they've grown up in a 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:07.119 society where we have the technology that actually shows you 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:11.520 what's in that mother room, and it becomes much more 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:15.320 difficult to deny that that's a human being. I mean, 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:21.000 in eight weeks you can already see the little eyeballs 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:24.480 and the nose and the lips and fingers and the 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:27.919 toes and the hearts beating, and you know, it's starting 0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:32.639 to move around, and to say that that's not a 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:39.200 living being makes no sense. And it's more sophisticated. That 0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:44.280 brain is developing so fast, you know, millions and millions 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:50.680 of neurons every single day, billions. In fact, it's much 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:54.200 more sophisticated than a snail darter with some of these 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:58.160 things that the environmentalists go around trying to say, Um, 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:00.800 why aren't they trying to say this baby? I saw 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.600 that in two You know, you had said at the 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:06.160 time you're you're not a member of any political party. 0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:08.920 Why did you eventually get into politics? What was it 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:11.600 about that that in the environment? Then you know, why 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:13.639 why did you decide that this is the time to 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:16.640 get into politics? Well, you know, I had no intention 0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:22.480 of getting into the political arena. And then in I 0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:26.560 was asked to give the keynote at the Presidential Prayer Breakfast, 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:30.680 which shocked me because I had given the keynote in 0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:35.120 when Bill Clinton was president, and I didn't know anybody 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:39.239 ever did it twice, but some investigation demonstrated that there 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.200 was one person who had done it twice, and that 0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:44.639 was Billy Graham. And I said, well, that's pretty good company. 0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:50.199 And uh so I gave the speech. And after the speech, 0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:54.400 I mean, I was just a non dated with people 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:57.280 saying you need to run for president. I said, it 0:23:57.320 --> 0:23:59.199 was was a ridiculous thing. I said, if I had 0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:02.399 just anore the that the'll go go away. But it 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.200 didn't go away. It kept getting worse. Every place I 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:07.320 had to go. There were people with plack carts run 0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:11.359 then run. I had more than five hundred thousand petitions 0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:13.480 in my office. I could really get in there, all 0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:18.600 the boxes and petitions, and you know, I finally said, Lord, 0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:22.520 are you trying to tell me something? I said, um, 0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:25.920 you know, I don't want to do this, but I 0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:27.879 don't have any of the things that people who are 0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:30.040 un for president have a roll of decks with all 0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:34.800 the important names, a big war chest of money and organization, 0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:37.879 any of the stuff. And I said, nor do I 0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:40.639 intend to develop them. So if you really want me 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.040 to do this, you have to supply all that stuff. 0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:46.800 The next thing I knew had a full organization. They 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.280 were raising more money than the rn C each one. 0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:55.440 It was absolutely incredible. And so that's that's how I 0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:59.040 ended up in the political arena. And then you know, 0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:03.760 during the y and pain, you know, uh, Donald Trump 0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:08.480 and I became friends with very very similar philosophies and 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:15.600 virtually everything, but very different personalities. And you know, it 0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:20.320 was easy for me when I dropped out to endorse him, 0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:24.639 and it's secondarily become a member of the cabinet. Why 0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:26.680 do you think he received so much hate him? And 0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:28.680 we had the media, the left, they try to say 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:30.800 he was a racist. They try to say, you know, 0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:36.359 he was all these terrible things. Why, oh well, it 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:38.520 wasn't just from the left. It was from a lot 0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:41.919 of traditional people on the right too. It was because 0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:46.240 he absolutely refused to get in the swamp and to 0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:48.440 play their games and to go along with all the 0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:52.639 things that you're supposed to do. And that made him 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:57.600 a real threat to the Washington establishment and they needed 0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:02.760 to get rid of him at all costs. And I 0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:05.000 suspect I would have had the same problem if I 0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:09.720 had one. But you know, we have to recognize what 0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:14.879 we have. It's an amazing country that we have. And 0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:21.120 after the Constitutional Convention seven was finished and Benjamin Franklin 0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:24.520 walked out, a woman said, sir, what do we have here? 0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:31.199 A republic or monarchy? And he said, a republic if 0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:35.680 we can keep it. And that's probably the biggest threat 0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:41.000 that we have right now. We have an entrenched system 0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:47.760