1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: I am so excited about this next guest for the show. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: I know my mom is excited as well. She's a 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: huge fan. It's Dr Ben Carson. There are so many 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: things I want to speak with him about. I mean, 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: the man is just remarkable. He grew up in poverty 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: in Detroit, Michigan, and then went on to just accomplish 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: tremendous success. I mean, the success that no one achieves, right, 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: just trement. I mean. He became the director of pediatric 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: Neurosurgery at John Hopkins at thirty three, the youngest to 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: head a major division in the hospital's history. In seven 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: he led a seventy member team that performed the first 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: successful surgery to separate conjoined twins connected at the back 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: of the head. And because of his work, he's received 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: numerous honors for his neurosurgery work. He's been named the 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: nation's you know, one of the nation's most foremost physicians 16 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: and scientists. In his past, I mean, the Library of 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: Congress is named him, you know, living legend. He's received 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: a Presidential Medal of Freedom. He's written best selling books. 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: He went on to run for president in sixteen and 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: then serve as Trump's secretary of Department of Housing and 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: Urban Development. I mean, the guy has just accomplished a 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: remarkable amount of achievements, and so I just want to 23 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: get his take on why him right? What did he 24 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: do differently? How how is he able to to get 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: out of Detroit and become this remarkable success not just 26 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: from someone who came from poverty, but just a success period, 27 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: you know what, And what does he think of today's 28 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: the state of the country. You know, what can we 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: do as a nation to move forward, to to be better, 30 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: to build a stronger country. And I want to get 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: his take on school choice. I know education has played 32 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: a huge role in his life. He talks about how 33 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: his mom really instilled that value in him, that she 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: really encouraged him to read books, to go to the library. 35 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: It was, you know, a prerequisite almost in their house 36 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: with his mom, and she really valued education and for 37 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: him because she saw it as an opportunity for upward mobility. 38 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: You know. So what would something like even school choice 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: in the country do for so many young people that 40 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, maybe face additional challenges because of the zip 41 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: code that they were born into. So we're going to 42 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: talk about that. He's also been married to his wife 43 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: for almost fifty years. What's the importance of marriage? You know. 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: He's also previously talked about how God really changed his life, 45 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: how he grew up really angry and violent, and his 46 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: religion and his walk with God was life changing for 47 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: him that it allowed him to become the man that 48 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: he is today. So we're gonna talk about all of 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: this and also get into some of the political stuff 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: like the Joe Biden administration and a lot of different 51 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: things like that. So I think you're really gonna like 52 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: this one. Dr Ben Carson just a fascinating and extraordinarily 53 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: accomplished man. So I really hope you love this interview 54 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: with Dr Ben car said. Oh, and his latest book 55 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: is Created Equal and it is out just came out, 56 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: I believe in May, so I wanted to plug that 57 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: for him as well. But I hope you love this 58 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: interview with Dr Ben Carson. Dr Ben Carson, it is 59 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: such an honor to have you on the show. I 60 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: was telling you, my mom is such a fan. I 61 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: told her I was interviewing you, and she was like, 62 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: what was so excited? So make sure you tell I said, Hi, 63 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: You've just had such a remarkable life, such a remarkable career. 64 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: You know, you grew up in Detroit, Michigan, in poverty, 65 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: and why do you think you were able to get 66 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: out and turn your life? And is such a success 67 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: story when so many we're not well. I always say 68 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: if everybody had my mother, we wouldn't have any problems. 69 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: You know, she had less than a third grade education, 70 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: but she was really committed two idea of getting an education. 71 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: And when I was a terrible student, she was great 72 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: distress and she finally figured out what to do. She said, 73 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a domestic I'm clearing all these wealthy 74 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: people's homes. I'm gonna a spy on them and see 75 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: what they're doing what makes them successful? And you know, 76 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 1: she concluded that it was reading books and not watching 77 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: a lot of TV. And she came home and imposed 78 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: that on me and my brother and we were not happy, 79 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: but we had to do it. And boy did that 80 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: have a revolution very effect on me as a person 81 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: as I started reading about all kinds of people of accomplishment, 82 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: and I began to understand that the person who has 83 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: the most to do it what happens to you is you, 84 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: not someone else. And that is still the case today. 85 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: You know. You take, for instance, I talked in my 86 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: newest book, Created Equal, about the wealth gap that so 87 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: many people talk about in this country side to attend 88 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: that explex the white and it does exist, there's no 89 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: question about that. But they say Ghanaians and Nigerians they're 90 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: black and there's no wealthcap. So what is it about 91 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: them that's different. It's not the color of this again, 92 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: it's that if you go to one of those families 93 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: and you look, you'll see that a Bansor's degree is 94 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: the baseline. They put such a premium education and a 95 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: big premium on family. And interestingly enough, if you take 96 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: traditional Black American families who have those same values, there's 97 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: not much as any wealthcap there either. So maybe we're 98 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,239 Speaker 1: looking at the wrong things when we're looking to blame 99 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: everything on racism. And that's not to say that there 100 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: isn't some racism. But now, as as my mother used 101 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: to say, if you go into an auditorium full of 102 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: racists figuring white people, you don't have a problem. They 103 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: have a problem because they're all going to cringe and 104 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: wonder if you're going to sit next to them. You 105 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: can sit any where you want, and you know, basically 106 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: carrying that philosophy has allowed both me and my brother 107 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: did very well. And you talked about the importance of 108 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: your mother. I mean, I was sort of a handful 109 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: growing up. I don't know where I would be without 110 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: my parents just continuously putting me back in the right 111 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: direction in life. Why do you think as a society 112 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: we devalue the importance of family, Well, you know, family structure. 113 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: Even the Marxist who wrote about America years ago state 114 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: that one of the really strong pillars of America, why 115 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: it would be so hard to bring it down, was 116 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: the family structure, because that's where you get your values from, 117 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: that's where you get your identity from. And when that 118 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: begins to break down, you don't have an anchor, and 119 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: you become very easy to manipulate. And that's why so 120 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: many of our people today, particularly a lot of our 121 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: young people, just like blowing like leaves in the wind, 122 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: whichever way the wind is blowing, that's the way they're going, 123 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: and they don't have those strong values. You know, that's 124 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: one of the reasons we created American Cornerstone Institute. Look 125 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: at those cornerstone principles that made America great. We didn't 126 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: get to be great by accident. It was our faith, liberty, community, 127 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: and I respect for life. Those are key elements. And 128 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: as we got farther away from them and other things 129 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: began to infiltrate, then we began to spiral downward. But 130 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it's inexorable. I don't think that it's 131 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: too late to change it. And that's why we're out 132 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: there preaching all the time. What was growing up in Detroit? Like, 133 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: it was interesting? Um, there were there was, you know, 134 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: significant areas that were nice areas quite frankly um where 135 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: there were black people who lived. But there were also 136 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: some pretty horrible slummy areas. But nothing they're compared to 137 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: what I witnessed when we got to Boston because my 138 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: parents got divorced after my mother discovered her husband was biggness, 139 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: and we didn't have a home for a while, but 140 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: some relatives in Boston took us in and it was 141 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: what you see on television in the tenement, horrible multi 142 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: family dwellings were boarded up, windows, endorsed, sirens and gangs, 143 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: wineos murders. Both of my favorite older cousins were killed. 144 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: I mean, it was a horrendous place, and yet you 145 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: could still find good people, you could find good things, 146 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: You could find libraries, you could find a place where 147 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: you could read. So even though it wasn't the ideal environment, uh, 148 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: it was something that you could make something out of. Now, 149 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: if you determine that you're a victim and then everything 150 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: is stacked against you, you're likely to react in a 151 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: very different way. Instead of looking for opportunities. You're going 152 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: to have a tendency to be complaining and groaning about things. 153 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: And let's just not to say that you should not 154 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: be unhappy when things are not going well, but you're 155 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: not going to solve that by just groaning and complaining 156 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: about it. You're going to solve that by making yourself 157 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: valuable and then utilizing that position of value to improve 158 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: the situation. And I read that when you were a 159 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: fourteen I know you've talked about this before. You almost 160 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: took the life of another boy that the knife hit 161 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: the teenager's belt buckle and snapped. Afterwards, you prayed and 162 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: asked for God's help. How did God change your life? 163 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: Oh tremendously. You know. I had a horrendous temper and 164 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: when I would get angry, I just really didn't even 165 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: care about the consequences. I just wanted to hurt people. 166 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: It was terrible. And you know, I had turned things 167 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: around academically, had become, you know, a top student and 168 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: pursuing my goal of becoming a physician. But I realized 169 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: after the incident that you just described that I would 170 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: never become a physician. I would either be in jail, 171 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: reform school, or the grave. And I just said, Lord, 172 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: you know, unless you can change me, I'm domned well. 173 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: I was still in the in the midst of praying 174 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: and contemplating and reading the Bible, it dawned on me 175 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: that the reason that I was always angry is because 176 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: I was selfish, because everything was about me, me, my 177 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: and I. Somebody did this to me. It took my thing. 178 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: I want this, And I said, if you learn how 179 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: to take yourself out of the middle of the equation, 180 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: the anger will dissipate. That was the last day I 181 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: had an angry out earth. And people who know me 182 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: now just can't believe that I used to be angry, 183 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: because it really completely changed my life. And you know, 184 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: I have a very strong faith and God, and I 185 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: think that our country developed so rapidly and so well 186 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: because we were a country that had faith, and that faith, 187 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: for instance, taught us how to relate to our fellow man. 188 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: Aren't you d Christian values say love your neighbor, not 189 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: cancel your neighbor if they don't agree with you. You know, 190 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: we're allowing those great principles to be replaced by things 191 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 1: that are antithetical to the principles of success. Well, and 192 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: you've also been married for I believe forty seven years now, 193 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: Um is it forty seven years to talk about the 194 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: importance of marriage. I personally could never have accomplice to 195 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: think that I did without my wife by my side. 196 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: She's just a constant support for everything that I've always done. 197 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: She even learned how to play pool because I love 198 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: the play pool. She says, if I don't become a 199 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: good pool player, I won't be to have any quality time. 200 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: But she's very good man. But she became a tackler cook, 201 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: a fantastic mom for my kids. You know. She helps 202 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: me with with my writing. With the latest book that 203 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: we did, she did a lot of the research for 204 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: that book, so I always acknowledge her on the cover 205 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: of the book. Um. And it just there was a 206 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: reason that that God fixed us up with the help 207 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: meet and with a companion for life. Quick commercial break 208 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: and then back with a great Dr Ben Carson on 209 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: the other side. You know, you look at the horrific 210 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: shooting that just took place, and you've all day Texas. 211 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: Why do you think as a society we keep turning out, 212 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, these angry young men that take out their 213 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: anger on innocent people like that. Well, I think it 214 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: goes back to what we were talking about before, that 215 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: family structure where you get your values, where you get 216 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: your appreciation for life and for the feelings of other people. 217 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: And when you don't have that and you have this 218 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: constant barrage of things that we see in the media 219 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: and over social media, in particular me first, it's all 220 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: about me, and it's all about my feelings. And you know, 221 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: if you don't have something to counter that, it can 222 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: become pretty malignant pretty quickly. And I think we're seeing 223 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: that in our society, pure evil that is not being counteracted. 224 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: And if we don't get a handle on it, this 225 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: is only the beginning. It's going to get much worse 226 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: than this. And I know people are gonna come and say, well, 227 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: if we can get rid of the guns. Well, all 228 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: you have to if you're a student of history, you 229 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: recognize that before dictatorships occurred, they said let's get rid 230 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: of the guns. And they always have a good reason 231 00:14:54,160 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: for it. China, Cambodia, Nazi Germany, Inezuela. You know, the 232 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: list goes on and on, get rid of the guns 233 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: and then tyranny. And there's no reason to suspect that 234 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: that wouldn't happen in this country too. And you look 235 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: at the country that had even more guns per capita 236 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: than leader Switzerland to have a very low incidence of 237 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: gun violence. But when you turn adult age, you get 238 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: a gun there and you get training on how to 239 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: use that gun and when to use that gun. And 240 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: I think what we're dealing with here is a people problem, 241 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: it's not a gun problem. And you talk about tyranny, 242 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: and you know, I admittedly, I mean, I've always been conservative. 243 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: I've always believed in liberty and freedom, but I don't 244 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: think I realized how fleeting it truly is until COVID, 245 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: and until we saw government try to overtake our lives. 246 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: As someone who is so renowned in the medical field, 247 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: what were you thinking throughout COVID and just what's your 248 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: takeaway from it? Well, you know, I was on the 249 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: COVID task Force and one of the things that disappointed 250 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: me tremendously was how the leaders of the task force 251 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: quickly dismissed any therapeutics that were brought up. Any It 252 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: had to be vaccine and vaccine only. And you see 253 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: where that led us not to a very good place. Uh. 254 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: No one would even acknowledge the role of natural immunity, 255 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: which we've known about, you know, since the Civil War 256 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: and smallpox. It's like natural immunity, what's that? How long 257 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: is that last? I mean, this is crazy. And you know, 258 00:16:54,400 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: anytime something that looked promising, like hydroxychloroquine, uh, it was 259 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: immediately bad mouth. The same thing with ivan mactin surrounded 260 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: or anything that looked good. And yet those things have 261 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: worked so well in other parts of the world. You 262 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: look at Western Africa, on the Western Africa coast, there's 263 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: almost no COVID. Why Well, it seems very likely it's 264 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: because they take anti malarial called Hydroxychlorkland and uh. In 265 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: southern India in places they use iver macton, very little 266 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: COVID going on there too. Now, if we were smart, 267 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: we would look at those places and would say, is 268 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: there something going on there? There's something going on there 269 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: with these interventions, and we would put a lot of 270 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: emphasis on that. But instead we have the stupid f 271 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: DA rules that say you cannot have an emergency youth 272 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: authorization if you have another viable treatment. Therefore, in order 273 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: to get the emergency use authorization for the vaccine, you 274 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: had to say nothing else is available that works, and 275 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: that was very unfortunate for hundreds of thousands of people 276 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: in this country. It seems like the left really try 277 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: to use COVID to reshape society, oh without question, or 278 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, you look at what happened with the election. 279 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you have people who are not 280 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: supposed to be making election rules because of the COVID 281 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: situation and the danger to society. All of a sudden, 282 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: they're changing all kinds of rules, and they're saying signatures 283 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: don't have to match, addresses don't have to match, it 284 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what the date. Uh uh I mean, just 285 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: crazy stuff that would never be allowed in any other 286 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: uh issue. And we just say okay, and Paul Watchers, no, 287 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: you have to stand twenty five or a hundred feet away, 288 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: or we have to be outside the building looking in 289 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: the woman. I mean, just crazy stuff that makes absolutely 290 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: no sense was pushed through because of COVID. And hopefully 291 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: all Americans are concerned about this, not just you know, 292 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: one side or the other side, because we're talking about 293 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: the future of our country. We're talking about a democratic 294 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: republic that cannot exist without integrity and the voting system. 295 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: And you know, you can't emphasize that enough. If we 296 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: just sort of take a lazy fair attitudes, it's okay, 297 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: then we have signed the death warrant for our country. No, 298 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: I agree with you, sir, and I do think that 299 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: is incredibly important. I think that's why a lot of 300 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: people are discouraged, you know, after action and feeling like 301 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: it was just really unfair. Uh. And there's a lot 302 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: of wrong that took place, you know. So I wanted 303 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: to ask you, So you have operated on babies inside 304 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: of a mother's womb. If you are operating on them, 305 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: how can democrats say that human life doesn't begin until birth? Well, 306 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: and it's pretty crazy mstiment. And why is it? Why 307 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: is it that if if you murder a woman who's pregnant, 308 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: you get charged with two counts of murder if if 309 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: that's not something that's alive. But since I hope that 310 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: would make any sense yet, that's why they accepted. So 311 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: it seems like selected Uh, it's very selective definitions of 312 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: when something is alive and when it isn't. And obviously, 313 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: you know, I feel very strong about it because you know, 314 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: I spent my whole professional career trying to save lives 315 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: in many cases little babies, sometimes very premature seven weeks 316 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: gast station um. And interestingly enough, you know, I've been 317 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: around long enough now, but I sometimes have an opportunity 318 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: to see the results. You know, adults, functional, productive adults, 319 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: wonderful people, and uh, you know it just reef enforces 320 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: the desire to make sure that people understand that what 321 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: is inside that mother's womb is not a meaningless bunch 322 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: of cells. Why do you think the left does that 323 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: though they try to reduce the value of human life 324 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: to just a club of cells. I think a lot 325 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: of it is because they don't really know and they 326 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: don't want to know. Um. But you'll notice that the 327 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: younger generation tends to have a larger number of people 328 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: who are pro life because they've grown up in a 329 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: society where we have the technology that actually shows you 330 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: what's in that mother room, and it becomes much more 331 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: difficult to deny that that's a human being. I mean, 332 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: in eight weeks you can already see the little eyeballs 333 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: and the nose and the lips and fingers and the 334 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: toes and the hearts beating, and you know, it's starting 335 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: to move around, and to say that that's not a 336 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: living being makes no sense. And it's more sophisticated. That 337 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: brain is developing so fast, you know, millions and millions 338 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: of neurons every single day, billions. In fact, it's much 339 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: more sophisticated than a snail darter with some of these 340 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: things that the environmentalists go around trying to say, Um, 341 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: why aren't they trying to say this baby? I saw 342 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: that in two You know, you had said at the 343 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: time you're you're not a member of any political party. 344 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: Why did you eventually get into politics? What was it 345 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: about that that in the environment? Then you know, why 346 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: why did you decide that this is the time to 347 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: get into politics? Well, you know, I had no intention 348 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: of getting into the political arena. And then in I 349 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: was asked to give the keynote at the Presidential Prayer Breakfast, 350 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: which shocked me because I had given the keynote in 351 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: when Bill Clinton was president, and I didn't know anybody 352 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 1: ever did it twice, but some investigation demonstrated that there 353 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: was one person who had done it twice, and that 354 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: was Billy Graham. And I said, well, that's pretty good company. 355 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: And uh so I gave the speech. And after the speech, 356 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I was just a non dated with people 357 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: saying you need to run for president. I said, it 358 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: was was a ridiculous thing. I said, if I had 359 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: just anore the that the'll go go away. But it 360 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: didn't go away. It kept getting worse. Every place I 361 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: had to go. There were people with plack carts run 362 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: then run. I had more than five hundred thousand petitions 363 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: in my office. I could really get in there, all 364 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: the boxes and petitions, and you know, I finally said, Lord, 365 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: are you trying to tell me something? I said, um, 366 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to do this, but I 367 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: don't have any of the things that people who are 368 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: un for president have a roll of decks with all 369 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: the important names, a big war chest of money and organization, 370 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: any of the stuff. And I said, nor do I 371 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: intend to develop them. So if you really want me 372 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: to do this, you have to supply all that stuff. 373 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: The next thing I knew had a full organization. They 374 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: were raising more money than the rn C each one. 375 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: It was absolutely incredible. And so that's that's how I 376 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: ended up in the political arena. And then you know, 377 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: during the y and pain, you know, uh, Donald Trump 378 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: and I became friends with very very similar philosophies and 379 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: virtually everything, but very different personalities. And you know, it 380 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: was easy for me when I dropped out to endorse him, 381 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: and it's secondarily become a member of the cabinet. Why 382 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: do you think he received so much hate him? And 383 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: we had the media, the left, they try to say 384 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: he was a racist. They try to say, you know, 385 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: he was all these terrible things. Why, oh well, it 386 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: wasn't just from the left. It was from a lot 387 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: of traditional people on the right too. It was because 388 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: he absolutely refused to get in the swamp and to 389 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: play their games and to go along with all the 390 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: things that you're supposed to do. And that made him 391 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: a real threat to the Washington establishment and they needed 392 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: to get rid of him at all costs. And I 393 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: suspect I would have had the same problem if I 394 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: had one. But you know, we have to recognize what 395 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: we have. It's an amazing country that we have. And 396 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: after the Constitutional Convention seven was finished and Benjamin Franklin 397 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: walked out, a woman said, sir, what do we have here? 398 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: A republic or monarchy? And he said, a republic if 399 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: we can keep it. And that's probably the biggest threat 400 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: that we have right now. We have an entrenched system 401 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: that is extraordinarily corrupt, and it's going to require people 402 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: with real fortitude and real courage to really change it 403 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: and get on the right track again. And you can't 404 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: be the Land of the Free if you're not at 405 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: the home of right. You can't just sort of stand 406 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: in the corner with your head down and hope no 407 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: one calls you a nasty name. I mean, I think 408 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: that's so true. And I mean, I hope people's eyes 409 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: are opening. I know my eyes have been open. You know, 410 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: it started with Kavana, then it was COVID, and then 411 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: it was the treatment of Trump, and then it was 412 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: the Trump administration, which you're obviously a huge part of. 413 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: You're really showing us how corrupt our government is, how 414 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: corrupt how corrupt the media is, how corrupt the left is. 415 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they called Kavana a gang rapist 416 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: without any evidence. I mean, they were willing to destroy 417 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: someone over politics. I mean you saw that up close 418 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: running What can you tell people about that experience of 419 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: facing that almost all the cabinet members were accused of 420 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: horrible snakes. It was ridiculous, um and and many of 421 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: them left, not because they were horrible corrupt people, but 422 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: in order to fight these things, you have to hire 423 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: your own personal lawyers, and the Washington lawyers who deal 424 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: with that kind of stuff of like nine hundred dollars 425 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: an hour. Not everybody could afford that. And uh, it's 426 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: it's a way of harassing that goes on. You don't 427 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: see it happening on the other side at all. You 428 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: don't hear any of these allegations being made. And the 429 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: media was right lockstep with those making those allegations. You know, 430 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: in my case, I said, he's buying this thirty one 431 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: dollar dining room table while he's trying to slash the budget, uh, 432 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: which was completely untrue, by the way, But they needed 433 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: a narrative, they needed something to attack, and the media 434 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: was all behind it. Carson needs to resign. He's got 435 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: ethical problems now. You know, the investigation cost over a 436 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: million dollars for this allegation of buying a thirty one 437 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: thousand dollar table, which was completely false, and of course 438 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: the investigation yielded zero wrongdoing, which of course there was 439 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: no wrongdoing, so of course that's what it yielded. Um. 440 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: But that shows the level of corruption that is there 441 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: no apology from the media, by the way, uh, no 442 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: acknowledgement that they were completely wrong. And that's one of 443 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: the other sad things that's going on. You know, the 444 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: only business entity protected by our constitution was the press, 445 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: and it was because they were supposed to disseminate unbiased 446 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: information to the people so that the people could make 447 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: a decision, so that the country could be run on 448 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: the will of the people. That was the great experiment. 449 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: How can you have a country that is running the 450 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: will of people, not by some monarch or some central 451 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: dictatorial agency. And no one thought it would work, But 452 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: it has worked for two hundred and fifty years, and 453 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: it will continue to work if if we the American people, 454 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: are diligent and understand our responsibility and make sure that 455 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: the people you vote for people who have your values, 456 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: not just people who have a name you're familiar with 457 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: when you go and look in a balance quick break 458 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: back with Dr Carson on the other side, you talk 459 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: about the media, and previously you're talking about Democrats desired 460 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: to rid Americans of their Second Amendment right. You know, 461 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: we also have the First Amendment right, and it's first 462 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: for a reason, because free speech that you know, the 463 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: free flow of information is incredibly important to have a 464 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: republic as we do, to to have a society that 465 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: can thrive to have that transparency. But we're really losing 466 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: that when you look at the media, I mean they 467 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: essentially serve as a prob began arm of the left. Oh, 468 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: no question about it. People say that we have complete 469 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: freedom of speech because the government has not imposed the restriction. 470 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: But if bick tech and social media is able to 471 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: cancel people with the compliance of the government's exactly the 472 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: same result as if the government is imposing the restriction itself. 473 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: And people really need to understand that, and they need 474 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: to be upset, and they need to make corrections. And 475 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, this November will be an opportune time for 476 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: people to make corrections. And you know, I'm not talking 477 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: democrats and republics. I'm talking about people who love America, 478 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: who love our system, who love our constitution, and people 479 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: who want to fundamentally change it. You know, So you've 480 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: talked about the importance of education and even just your 481 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: mom really encouraging that your life. You know, when you 482 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: look at the issue of school choice, how much of 483 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: a difference would that make in young people's lives in 484 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: this country? Oh, make all the difference in the world. 485 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: If you can get a good education, it doesn't matter 486 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: where you start, what your background is, you will end 487 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: up writing your own ticket and the society. And yet, 488 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's one of the things that we really 489 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: do need to address as a nation. A lot of 490 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: our schools, the public schools, are funded through a millage manner, 491 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: where the taxes are generated on the basis of the 492 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: neighborhood in which you live, and if it happens to 493 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: be an affluent area, there's a lot of tax money 494 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: that goes into the school system, and if you happen 495 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: to live in a very poor area, there's very little 496 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: money that goes into it. So you end up with 497 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: in serious schools and less opportunity for a good education. Now. 498 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: You know, in my own particular case, I was I 499 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: was able to get around going to schools that were 500 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: not particularly academically inclined. Uh, because I had such a 501 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: thirst for education. I would go back to the teachers 502 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: after class and I would say, what did you intend 503 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: to teach? Because most of the time they spent the 504 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: whole hour discipline people. They didn't get to teach anything. Uh. 505 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: You know, the biology teacher never got the experiments done, 506 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: but he hired me as the biology lab assistant, so 507 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: I got to set up all the experiments, so I 508 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: got to find out what they were supposed to show. 509 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: And then I started doing that for the chemistry and 510 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: also for the physics labs. So I got that education, 511 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: and I started going downtown to Wayne State University, to 512 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: the libraries, They're going to the museums, doing all kinds 513 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: of things to supplement my my education. And even with 514 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: all of that, you know, going from Southwestern High School 515 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: and inner city Detroit to Yale University was still a 516 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: huge culture shock, but I did eventually adjust to We've 517 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: seen just indoctrination take place in schools, particularly with the 518 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, the IVY leagues as well how do we 519 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: change that in terms of just the doctor, you know, 520 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: indoctrination that students are getting. You know, I've I've heard 521 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: a couple of people mentioned, but it's never really been enacted. 522 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: But you know, these schools get huge government grants, and uh, 523 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think the government should not be given 524 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: grants two universities indoctrinate people in either direction. It shouldn't 525 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: it's it shouldn't happen. There's no reason that taxpayers should 526 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: be on the hook for indoctrination of our young people. 527 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: We've seen an uptick in black conservatives, but why aren't 528 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: more black voters voting for Republicans. Well, I will say 529 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: that is encouraging to me. I used to go to 530 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: conservative gatherings and I would be the only black face there. 531 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: That's long gone. There is a wild black faces there now. 532 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: So I think it is changing, uh pretty quickly, and 533 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: I think it will change even more, uh when we 534 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: get another administration in place that takes the attitude of 535 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: the previous administration before this one, that rising tide liftsaw 536 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: boats and that's the way things were done, and and 537 00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: that's why there was the lowest black unemployment. Uh, tremendous 538 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: wage gains, all kinds of opportunities for business development. Um. 539 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of things that people will after 540 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: a while. Notice if those kinds of the same kind 541 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: of games had occurred under the current administration, uh, you know, 542 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: be heralded from the mountaintop. But since it was the 543 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: bigious administration, I'll talk about that. Um. But you know 544 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: that hiding it under the blanket can only last for 545 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: so long. And I think a lot of people are 546 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: starting to wake up, and that's what encourages me more 547 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: than anything else. I see minorities waking up. I see 548 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: a lot of all Americans from all backgrounds getting involved 549 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: with the school boards, getting involved with the city councils, 550 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: recognizing how much is at stake right now. And I 551 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: do not think Erica is going to go the way 552 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: of Venezuela in some other places, because I think our 553 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: people understand what is at stake and they're not willing 554 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: to treat what we have for socialism. You know, I 555 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 1: think about Venezuela. I visited there a number of times 556 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: before they turned at wonderful times. They're beautiful resorts and 557 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: hotels and museums. The thing that the people argued about 558 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: most was whether or not they were the most beautiful 559 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: people in the world. And now look look at it. 560 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: They go from the number one economy in South America 561 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: to the last with people fleeing there in droves, and 562 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: it happened almost overnight. And look at how rapidly things 563 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: are changing in this country. And we cannot take our 564 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: freedoms for granted, We absolutely cannot. And you know, that's 565 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: really the whole point of this podcast. Try to get 566 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: to the truth of these issues and expose a lot 567 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: of these issue shoose and have conversations with people like 568 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: you to get the truth out to the public. And 569 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: you talked about all the accomplishments that you guys did 570 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: in the Trump administration, you know, and then now we 571 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: have this administration. You know, as as someone who served 572 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: in the previous administration, you know what's going through your 573 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: mind as you just watch what's been happening with the 574 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: Biden administration. Well, you know, it's very sad. Obviously, our 575 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 1: system has broken down in the sense that you've got 576 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: some government who multiple reasons is perhaps not functioning at 577 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: the highest levels, and you have people managing him who 578 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: are not elected people and who would never be elected. 579 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: People people saw who they were, but they're they're virtually 580 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: managing the country and doing a horrible job of it. 581 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: And and the question is, you know, can we survive uh, 582 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: you know, this complete lack of leadership and incompetency that's 583 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: going on. I hope we're strong enough to survive it. 584 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: But everybody's going to have to do their part. And 585 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: one thing I tell people all the time is you 586 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: may feel helpless, but there's no one who doesn't have 587 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: a sphere of influence, and you can use that a 588 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 1: sphere of influence in a very positive way. Treat people 589 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: the right way again, conversations about what's going on. You know, 590 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: they say you're not to talk about religion or politics. 591 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: I disagree. I think you should engage people in conversation 592 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: because sometimes that's the only way that they will get 593 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: to recognize the basis of their beliefs, and a lot 594 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: of times they recognize that they don't have a bit 595 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: sister the beliefs, and you can frequently get people to 596 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: move to more reasonable position, and that's what we really want. 597 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: We live in a multi, multi variant society. We have 598 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: people from all kinds of backgrounds, and that's exactly the 599 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: kind of place where you cannot have a my way 600 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: or the highway attitude. You have to be able to 601 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 1: engage in conversation with each other, you have to be 602 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: the fine common ground. You have to be able to 603 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: work together. That's what community is all about. And that 604 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: was a very important killer for the development of this country. 605 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: Fully with it, I don't think he's at the top 606 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:50,439 Speaker 1: of his game, um. And you know, I just think 607 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: it was criminal the way during the election process that 608 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: he was stashed away in the basement. I mean, people 609 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: should have been highly suspicion just at that point and 610 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 1: why they try to keep this guy away from people. Um. 611 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: But again, part of that was the media heralding how 612 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: great he was and this was going to be the 613 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: salvation of the world, and you know, they just pushed 614 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: that narrative so hard. And you know, I I talked 615 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 1: about the media quite a bit and and my new 616 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: book Created Equal and the role that they have played 617 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: and some of the good things that they have done 618 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: in our society, but you know, some of the really 619 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: bad things. And there is an opportunity for them to 620 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: recognize why they were the only business entity protected by 621 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: a Constitution and to rise to the occasion, you know, 622 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: throw away this ideological bent that they have and do 623 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: their job. You've just done so much in your life, 624 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: it's remarkable. I mean, you were the director of pediatric 625 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: neuro Surgery at John Hopkins at thirty three years old, 626 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: the youngest to head in major division in the hospital's history. 627 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: You have done life changing surgeries, you have been the 628 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: first to do some of those. You've written best selling books, 629 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: You've won You've received the Presidential Medal of Freedom. I mean, 630 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: the list goes on and on and on, awards, honors, 631 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: you know, all these things. What are you most proud of? 632 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: Probably the fact that our children and our grandchildren are 633 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: growing up to be very decent individuals who love our 634 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: nation and who loved their fellow man, and they're making contributions. 635 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: And I don't know that there's anything greater that you 636 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 1: can do than to raise your children the right way. 637 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: It's beautiful. I always like to ask the guests before 638 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: we go, is there anything else you'd like to leave 639 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: the audience with. Well, just with the fact that we, 640 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: the American people, are not each other's enemies, and we 641 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: cannot do that. Those who want to fundamentally change is 642 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: convince us that we're enemies and that we should be 643 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:27,280 Speaker 1: fighting on the basis of race, income, gender, religion, political affiliation, whatever, 644 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: because the United States of America is critical to the 645 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: stability of the world, and if we allow it to go, 646 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 1: everything else is going to collapse as well. Sir, it's 647 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: been an honor to have you on the show. I 648 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time. Such an honor. 649 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, sir, Thank you for being a patriot. Well, 650 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: that was awesome to have Dr Ben Parson on the show. 651 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 1: And what I really appreciate it is, well, guys, it 652 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 1: can be challenging right now what we face as a country. 653 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: We all know that we are at a crossroads as 654 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: a nation, that this is a really pivotal time for 655 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: a country for those of us who believe in liberty, 656 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: who believe in freedom, who believe on the principles of 657 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: this nation was founded upon. So I really appreciated his 658 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,359 Speaker 1: optimism and his wisdom and just what he had to say. 659 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: So it was an honor to have the conversation with him, 660 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: and I really appreciated what he said that we can't 661 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: be the land of the Free without being the Home 662 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 1: of the Brave. So you know, we've got to be brave, 663 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: we've got to get out there and fight, and so 664 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: I just really appreciated that conversation that and I hope 665 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: you did too. You know, we have these every Monday 666 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: and Thursday. I appreciate you guys tuning in. Please share 667 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: with friends, family, leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. 668 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: And I want to thank my producer, John Cassio for 669 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: always working hard to to put this show together for 670 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: you guys. So thanks so much for listening.