WEBVTT - Drive Time: Jimbo Fisher Breaks Down De'Von Achane Addition

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<v Speaker 2>How's it going everybody? I am your host, Travis Wingfield.

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<v Speaker 2>And on today's show, we are knocking it out of

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<v Speaker 1>We have two more for you today.

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<v Speaker 2>The head football coach at Texas A and M Jimbo

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<v Speaker 2>Fisher joins us to talk about new Dolphins running back

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<v Speaker 2>and his former back there in Aggie Land Devon Achan.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are gonna love that interview. You're also gonna

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<v Speaker 1>This is the draft time, Parks.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, let's jump right in today with my first guest,

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<v Speaker 2>Texas A and M head football coach, the legendary Jimbo Fisher.

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<v Speaker 2>And we have a very special guest today from college Station,

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<v Speaker 2>the head football coach at Texas A and M Jimbo Fisher.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome in, great to glad to be with you, guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Hope you're having a good day.

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<v Speaker 2>We're having a great day. It's always a day done

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<v Speaker 2>here in South Florida. And I want to start here, coach,

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<v Speaker 2>because I imagine that over the years we're talking about of

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<v Speaker 2>course new Dolphins running back to von a Chain, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>coaching so many future NFL players at this moment. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure it never gets old for you, But I want

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<v Speaker 2>to know about when you heard Devaughn's name called on

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<v Speaker 2>draft day and what that moment was like for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well again again, you go back to the when you

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<v Speaker 3>recruited a guy and you remember his mom, his family

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<v Speaker 3>and all their dreams. You know there was a chance

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<v Speaker 3>for all those dreams to come true. You've you've all

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<v Speaker 3>your hard work, all the things you dreamed about, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's a great It's one of the great feelings you

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<v Speaker 3>get as a coach to know those guys have that

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to go to pro football, just like the one.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he got in a great organization with a

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<v Speaker 3>great team who has a great future right now. I

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<v Speaker 3>think he's a great fit for where he's going, And

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<v Speaker 3>that's the other part. They get that opportunity, but you

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<v Speaker 3>always worry about the fit.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean? And I think again I

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<v Speaker 4>was excited for him to go to Miamis.

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<v Speaker 2>We love to hear that for sure. How quickly after

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<v Speaker 2>his draft selection, did you talk to Devony.

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<v Speaker 3>Right after his congratulating him and traded lating before and

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<v Speaker 3>a half, Because afterwards it's hard to get to him

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<v Speaker 3>because everybody in the world jumps on him. But now

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<v Speaker 3>you just you just wish him the best and tell

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<v Speaker 3>him that you can ever help him.

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<v Speaker 2>Let us know, was he pretty fired up to come

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<v Speaker 2>down here?

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<v Speaker 3>He is, But he's such a his emotions are kept

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<v Speaker 3>will in check. He's such an easy going when he's excited,

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<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't know if he was if he was down,

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<v Speaker 3>he was high, I mean, if he was neutral, or

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<v Speaker 3>if he was happy.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's so it's not unemotional, but he keeps

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<v Speaker 4>his feelings really.

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<v Speaker 2>In chick, same guy every day. That's that's an easy

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<v Speaker 2>guy to coach, right because you know you get every

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<v Speaker 2>single day from him. Yeah, that's really cool to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>So so our goal here coach today is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>twofold to both get to know the player and the person.

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<v Speaker 2>You've talked a little bit about the person already, but

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<v Speaker 2>I want to start with that part talking about the person.

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<v Speaker 2>Devon a chain and because in preparing for this podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>I found some really cool quotes about Devon coming back

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<v Speaker 2>for that LSU victory Yalla High late last season. Had

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to ask Devon about that in the media

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<v Speaker 2>availability and he talked about getting the opportunity to strap

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<v Speaker 2>it on one last time with his guys. Right, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>wondering what that meant to you as a coach and

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<v Speaker 2>your program.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he's a throwback in that. You know, it's about

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<v Speaker 3>the team for him. He's a very unassuming guy. He's

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<v Speaker 3>all team. He's easy to coach, he comes to work

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<v Speaker 3>every day, and it is about team. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 3>wants to play well so his team can do well.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's you know, it's not the vice versa where

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<v Speaker 3>I want to do well so I can do well.

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<v Speaker 3>He really truly believes in that and that's the way

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<v Speaker 3>he approaches each and every day. And that did It

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<v Speaker 3>made me happy, but it did not surprise me what

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<v Speaker 3>happened in the LSU games.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that kind of leave an impact on your program?

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<v Speaker 2>Because not really, that's not really the typical decision these

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<v Speaker 2>days in modern college football. How rare was that for

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<v Speaker 2>you guys to get him back for that game?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not in the modern day athlete, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>always about it. It seems to be more about them than

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<v Speaker 3>as it goes on. But it's very refreshating when your

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<v Speaker 3>best players exhibit those habits and then they have success

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<v Speaker 3>and they get their dreams come true. It's an easy

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<v Speaker 3>thing to point to and teach too to other guys

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<v Speaker 3>because I still am a believer in the reasons for

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<v Speaker 3>guys having success in his business, whether it was fifty

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<v Speaker 3>years ago or now, are really not any different. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I truly believe they're the same, and to take away

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<v Speaker 3>some of the selfishness. And it's a great guy to

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<v Speaker 3>teach from and to point too that say, look this

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<v Speaker 3>guy here did it and it look what he got.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it sounds it all tracks because I read this

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<v Speaker 2>quote from your coach in one of the draft guides

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking at and you said this, he's a

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<v Speaker 2>tremendous human being, player, leader, competitor, and he has nothing

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<v Speaker 2>but heart and toughness about him and everything he does. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a quote that you drop because of one

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<v Speaker 2>isolated incident. I'm thinking you only issue that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>praise when a guy demonstrates those traits daily. Right, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>curious to know about how DeVaughn went about his business

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<v Speaker 2>day in and day out.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are his habits. I always say, we are what

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<v Speaker 3>our habits say we are. And you can want to

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<v Speaker 3>be something or think you're something, but when pressure comes

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<v Speaker 3>and what you do on a daily basis is who

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<v Speaker 3>you really are, and that's who he really is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he just he comes to work and those things. He

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<v Speaker 3>loves it. And that's the thing about him. People aways say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he's such a track guy.

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<v Speaker 4>He can really run.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he's a football player who ran track. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>a track guy who played football. And I think there's

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<v Speaker 3>a difference. I don't mean it's not an insult to

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<v Speaker 3>track guys, but football was his first love. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you watch and when you watch him play, there's times

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<v Speaker 3>you say, man, is he really that fast? Because he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't play out of control. He's so under control and

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<v Speaker 3>too he doesn't have to be and use his speed.

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<v Speaker 3>It's natural for him to do the things on the

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<v Speaker 3>football field when it comes out.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had a chance to watch him for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of practices here so far and it shows up right

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<v Speaker 2>away that track speeds evident, But so is the football acumen.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something you really praised, you know, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the media I looked at that you did talking

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<v Speaker 2>about this player and how quick things come to him.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious when did you first notice that with devon

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<v Speaker 2>that quick learner trait.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what's funny early in camp when he was

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<v Speaker 3>a freshman. I mean, because you know, when you're installing offense,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean in those young guys, you know you and

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<v Speaker 3>you give lard and you throw the whole I called

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<v Speaker 3>whole part hole. You throw everything in and you go

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<v Speaker 3>back and reteach it. Then you really perfect it. But

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<v Speaker 3>his retention level, and I mean you telling something one time,

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<v Speaker 3>it was very it was evident from the day he

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<v Speaker 3>ever did it, and I mean extremely intelligent and extremely instinctive,

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<v Speaker 3>and usually those don't always go together.

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<v Speaker 2>I go back to a question I asked earlier about

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<v Speaker 2>how it benefits your program. I'm curious how that benefits

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<v Speaker 2>your program on you you know, you want to put

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<v Speaker 2>something new on a Monday to install it for Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's got it down by Tuesday. That's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be a big benefit to a coaching staff.

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<v Speaker 3>It's huge, and I think it's what really separates average

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<v Speaker 3>players from you know, really good players and really good players,

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<v Speaker 3>some really great players. If you go back and watch

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<v Speaker 3>all the great ones, most of them they learn at

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<v Speaker 3>a high level and they take pride in learning and

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<v Speaker 3>their retention levels because the vast volume of information you

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<v Speaker 3>have to learn in a college program or a program

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<v Speaker 3>and a pro offense is people don't have any idea

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<v Speaker 3>how much it is. And then you know, if a

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<v Speaker 3>guy gets it early in the week, he can perfect

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<v Speaker 3>it during the week because now he truly understands the

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<v Speaker 3>concepts of what you're running. When guys take a long

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<v Speaker 3>time to comprehend things, not that they're at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the week and by time they really understand it,

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<v Speaker 3>there's not time to prefer. So I think the learning

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<v Speaker 3>curve to me is a huge part of guys being

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<v Speaker 3>successful and also staying in the league for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fascinating insight, not just for Devon a Chang, but

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<v Speaker 2>for the idea of you know how those intangibles kind

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<v Speaker 2>of benefit a football player. Really good insight from you

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<v Speaker 2>their coach. But back to a chain and the physical traits,

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<v Speaker 2>they're obvious, right, pretty rare player in terms of the

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<v Speaker 2>speed you talked about, he's a football player who also

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<v Speaker 2>happens to run track and not to mention at an

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<v Speaker 2>Olympic qualifying level speed and the explosiveness is there too.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go back to when you first caught

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<v Speaker 2>wind of his high school tape. I have to imagine

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<v Speaker 2>that was like a first snap, like, whoa, this is

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<v Speaker 2>something special here.

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<v Speaker 3>It was, and then you know some of the first

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<v Speaker 3>things you question. You go, all right, how good is

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<v Speaker 3>this ball? Who's he playing against?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>And listen, he played at Fort Ben Marshall, which was

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<v Speaker 3>an extremely high level of football and had great players

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<v Speaker 3>and the people they played, and they went to state championships.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I think back to back.

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<v Speaker 3>Years, his junior and senior year and you're going, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like amazing, and I never forget we got to

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<v Speaker 3>I got to evaluate again. He played one of his

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<v Speaker 3>playoff games in our stadium, so I was able to

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<v Speaker 3>watch the game, and I'll never forget.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just like it's like a video game.

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<v Speaker 3>He actually hit a bunch of big runs, was in

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<v Speaker 3>the scoring that and then he hit an eighty yard

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<v Speaker 3>run and he gets called back. Okay, so it's first

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<v Speaker 3>in fifteen on the fifteen Well guess what, he hit

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<v Speaker 3>an eighty five yard run.

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<v Speaker 4>On the play.

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<v Speaker 3>He had one hundred and sixty five yards to two

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<v Speaker 3>only got credit for one. But I mean it was

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<v Speaker 3>just every time he touched it, you didn't take your

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<v Speaker 3>eyes off of it because you know what could happen.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't have to go to the sideline for a

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<v Speaker 2>blow for.

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<v Speaker 4>That, he didn't. He didn't come out and he hit

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<v Speaker 4>another one. He went all the way first score.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. So how would you say, if you could

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<v Speaker 2>describe it for us, how that speed and the home

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<v Speaker 2>run hitting ability, How did that kind of benefit your offense?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe change the way you guys did things knowing you

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<v Speaker 2>have that in your back pocket.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and the other unique thing about him if you watch,

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<v Speaker 3>if you watched him practice, he doesn't have good hands.

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<v Speaker 4>He has excellent hands.

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<v Speaker 3>He catches the football and he judged, which I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know until we had him here for just a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit because you were teaching the offense and you start

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<v Speaker 3>flexing him out, putting him in positions to catch the ball,

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<v Speaker 3>and then a lot of backs and catch the ball

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<v Speaker 3>ten fifteen yards down. But he has great ability to

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<v Speaker 3>judge the ball in a deep part of the field,

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<v Speaker 3>and he can catch the go balls and the post.

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<v Speaker 3>And we had a lot of things that we tried

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<v Speaker 3>to get him the ball at now people of course,

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<v Speaker 3>now every time he got out there everybody in the

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<v Speaker 3>world got they backed up for twenty five yards, but

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<v Speaker 3>which I would have too.

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<v Speaker 4>But he can run routes. Likely he can run a retrieve.

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<v Speaker 3>I receive retree route progression and which is and it's

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<v Speaker 3>very easy for him, and he naturally he adjusts on

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<v Speaker 3>the ball and contorts his body very well to catch it.

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<v Speaker 3>So he creates a lot of abilities or coming out

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<v Speaker 3>of the backs on his little option in scat routes.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you get the verticals rent off and you

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<v Speaker 3>get him isolated on a linebacker. His ability, his instincts

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<v Speaker 3>to read leverages and pressures those teaching things. Again, I

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<v Speaker 3>go back to he picked up on very easily.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny you mentioned how a team's kind of back

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<v Speaker 2>off when you have a player like that out there.

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<v Speaker 2>And the fit here with the Dolphins, like you mentioned earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Tyreek and Jalen do that pretty well on

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<v Speaker 2>their own on the outside. Now you put de von

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<v Speaker 2>h in the backfield, it's a lot of speed to

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<v Speaker 2>contend with their coach three.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually know those guys very well. We almost got

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<v Speaker 3>water when I was recruiting very hard when I was

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<v Speaker 3>at Florida State. Then I transferred over here and he

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<v Speaker 3>was from Houston, and I knew Jalen really well. We'd

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<v Speaker 3>had a big guy named Marvin Wilson who came from

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<v Speaker 3>his high school year before we'd signed at Florida State.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we recruiting very hard.

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<v Speaker 3>Here at A and M and Tyreek, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 3>was on an official visit at Florida State.

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<v Speaker 1>For me.

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<v Speaker 3>He came on official visits, so I got to research

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<v Speaker 3>his film in college and all that too, So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>very familiar with those guys. And I said, now you're

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<v Speaker 3>putting this guy in with them, And they said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you usually got one guy that caliber, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean to get and then to have to read

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<v Speaker 3>of that caliber. I said, That's why I saw it

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<v Speaker 3>was a really good fit. Because of the style and

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<v Speaker 3>the speed people have, and those guys pushing people vertical

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<v Speaker 3>down the field, isolating him underneath on the things he

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<v Speaker 3>can do with his skill set. I think is a

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<v Speaker 3>really good combination for them, and I think it's.

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<v Speaker 4>A great fit.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like you and coach McDaniel have similar tastes

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of the speed you like on the outside

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<v Speaker 2>and in the backfield as well. Because plenty of speed

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<v Speaker 2>here to burn. You know you mentioned the route tree

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<v Speaker 2>in the past game Prowess, I'm curious to hear your

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<v Speaker 2>take on his ability and pass protection because often for

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<v Speaker 2>rookies we see it's difficult to get on the field

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<v Speaker 2>early on because of the pass po responsibilities. How does

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<v Speaker 2>he handle that part of the game.

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<v Speaker 3>He understands and learns that because we run a pro

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<v Speaker 3>style offense.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he's used to.

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<v Speaker 3>He understands where the mic calls are and I got

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<v Speaker 3>first or second, or if I'm scanning to the backside,

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<v Speaker 3>and how to read the safeties and the pressure safeties.

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<v Speaker 3>We taught that in our system. So he did that

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<v Speaker 3>very well. And here's the other thing. The thing about

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<v Speaker 3>him he ran track, so his ability to lift, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really looking forward to watching them as a pro because.

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<v Speaker 4>He's starting to put on size now.

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<v Speaker 3>In strength, he's all right, he's a shorter guy, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's a stocky, well built strong player. I mean he

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<v Speaker 3>really is. And I think now with a continual off

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<v Speaker 3>season of heavyweights because he was in track so much,

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<v Speaker 3>he never got that as much in college. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's even going to excel to him because he understands

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<v Speaker 3>how to play low to high. He can use his

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<v Speaker 3>that size. I mean, it's power you can over guy's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna try to overpower. But he's much stronger, and he

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<v Speaker 3>understands leverage, he can create twitch, and he understands pass

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<v Speaker 3>protection very well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to be is it's a Dolphins fan's ears.

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<v Speaker 2>I have one more question for you here, coach, if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't mind just summarizing the person, the player the

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<v Speaker 2>Dolphins are getting ultimately the package of Devon A.

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<v Speaker 5>Chang.

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<v Speaker 2>What are we getting down here in South Florida.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm first of all again I say you're getting a

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<v Speaker 3>really good The guy doesn't He's very unassuming. He's going

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<v Speaker 3>to do his business. He's not going to be in trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's very close with his mother. He has

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<v Speaker 3>a young child. I mean he's very close with He's

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<v Speaker 3>a family orientey guy. He's not a go out guy.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not a run around guy. Never was in college,

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<v Speaker 3>very family oriented, works very hard, extremely talented, as we said,

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<v Speaker 3>but cares and takes pride in the learning concepts of

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<v Speaker 3>things and not making mistakes and mental mistakes on the field.

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<v Speaker 3>And you've got a guy with that kind of ability.

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<v Speaker 3>If he knows what to do, which he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>pick it up very quickly. I think you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>a high character quality guy who's going to be extremely productive.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think whether it's running the ball and that's

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<v Speaker 3>where you're gonna be subscribed. He's much stronger in between

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<v Speaker 3>the tackles than people really giving credit for my opinion

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<v Speaker 3>because you think of the speed, catches it very well.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course there's another aspect. He is a great

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<v Speaker 3>kick return guy. He's taking moldible kickoffs back for touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 3>We beat Alabama here a couple of years ago. He

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<v Speaker 3>took one back for one hundred dad a year ago.

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<v Speaker 3>He's done it two or three times in his career.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think in all those different aspects he can

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<v Speaker 3>affect your team. But you're gonna get a very high

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<v Speaker 3>character quality guy I don't believe will ever be in trouble,

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<v Speaker 3>who's going to learn at a high level, be a

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<v Speaker 3>team mooring a guy and play his hard out.

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<v Speaker 2>I just saw him the other day Coach Rip a

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<v Speaker 2>big run going right between the guard and the center

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<v Speaker 2>on the offensive line. So you talk about runington tackles,

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<v Speaker 2>it's definitely in his skill set. That's great to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>Legendary coach Jimbo Fisher, coach, we appreciate your time so

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<v Speaker 2>much today. Best of luck this season and.

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<v Speaker 4>Gig them best of lucky y'all too, Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>And there he goes. I mean, how much fun was that?

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<v Speaker 2>If you're not going to get fired up about that,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we'll keep trying. We're gonna go ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>have the next guest here on our nineteen twenty seven

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<v Speaker 2>New York Yankees lineup of guests. We've had the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks, our murderers bro if you will. Jeremy Tash,

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<v Speaker 2>Miami micd Up, Bally Sports, and The Dan Levittard Show.

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<v Speaker 2>He's my guest next here on the Draft Time podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation

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<v Speaker 2>and making his Drive Time debut, is the man behind

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<v Speaker 2>the Miami micd Up podcast. He's a digital host and

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<v Speaker 2>reporter for Bally Sports. You can find him on the

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<v Speaker 2>sidelines at the Heat Games alongside coach McDaniel. There and

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<v Speaker 2>my personal favorite role of his of this renaissance man

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<v Speaker 2>as he were, jere Bear on The LeBatard Show. Jeremy

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<v Speaker 2>Tasha Jeremy, how we doing on this glorious South Florida

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<v Speaker 2>rainy day.

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<v Speaker 5>I am absolutely wonderful and even better after that introduction.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks man, This is an honor. I've wanted to be

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<v Speaker 5>on here for a while with you, so I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 5>super excited to have a chance to chat and think

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<v Speaker 5>you're amazing at this, So excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>You're too kind, and what better time to have you

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<v Speaker 2>on than right now? And South Florida sports are just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of going off right now with the Panthers in

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<v Speaker 2>the finals and the heat depending on when this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>drops and what happens with the games that happened. We

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<v Speaker 2>tried our best to time this up. It's just not

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<v Speaker 2>possible to do a podcast on an afternoon and then

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<v Speaker 2>have a game that night and find out who's going

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<v Speaker 2>on in the next round, or if we have to

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<v Speaker 2>come back to Miami for another game, We'll find out

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<v Speaker 2>about that and we'll make the podcast work accordingly. But

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<v Speaker 2>I brought you with that intro and purposefully saved the

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<v Speaker 2>Levatard liner there for the end because I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to go ahead and validate you out of the box, Jeremy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna go ahead and play some sound for

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<v Speaker 2>you in the audience here real quick.

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<v Speaker 5>And every single role player for this team stepped up,

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<v Speaker 5>and they have the best player in the series, Jimmy

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<v Speaker 5>Butler is the best player in the series, whether Giannis

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<v Speaker 5>is healthy or not.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Jeremy. That was April twenty fourth. The series was

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<v Speaker 2>two to one at the time. Miami was up in

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<v Speaker 2>the series, and you know, Michael Jordan said it best.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that when you can talk your trash when

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<v Speaker 2>you're tied or behind, that's the sign of a confident man.

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<v Speaker 2>And while the Heat were up a game in the

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<v Speaker 2>series at that point, nobody was predicting them to win

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<v Speaker 2>the series. Hell, they were still saying Boston's gonna win

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<v Speaker 2>the series, you know, or that the Heat were dogs

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<v Speaker 2>after having two wins in Boston. So what I want

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<v Speaker 2>to know, Jeremy, what I really want to know is

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<v Speaker 2>what was the genesis of that ranch of that spot

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<v Speaker 2>on Take Walk Us Through It?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I first of all thank you for the

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<v Speaker 5>validation because I've been searching for it NonStop on the

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<v Speaker 5>show and they will not give it to me no

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<v Speaker 5>matter how bad I ask for it. I think the

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<v Speaker 5>genesis of that actually came from frustration from almost like

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<v Speaker 5>months of talking about the season that Jimmy Butler had

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<v Speaker 5>that despite the fact that the Heat were struggling up

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<v Speaker 5>until basically the last few weeks where they got it together,

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<v Speaker 5>Jimmy Butler, for all intents and purposes, was having the

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<v Speaker 5>best season of his career and nobody was paying attention,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, despite the fact that they were one seed

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<v Speaker 5>last year and had gone to the finals and years before.

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<v Speaker 5>And so I think after watching him just come out

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<v Speaker 5>of the gate and have such an incredible start to

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<v Speaker 5>this postseason, after all of the talk of those play

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<v Speaker 5>in games and on the show, the talk of purpose

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<v Speaker 5>tanking the second play in game, which is what was

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<v Speaker 5>the recommendation of a couple of the guys in the

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<v Speaker 5>shipping container. I will not even put their names out

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<v Speaker 5>there for some ridiculous take, but the idea of tanking

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<v Speaker 5>and hoping that you get a pingpong ball. And now

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<v Speaker 5>he had Jimmy Butler, the ultimate competitor, going out there

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<v Speaker 5>and showing why you always try to make the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 5>and it really validated what the Heat have done for

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<v Speaker 5>years and years and years, right, I mean, people look

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<v Speaker 5>back at a season where the Heat just barely missed

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<v Speaker 5>the playoffs the thirty and eleven year, and it was like,

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<v Speaker 5>why are you trying so hard to win with this roster?

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<v Speaker 5>And it's because the Heat are always trying to win.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the premise of sports is to try to win.

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<v Speaker 5>And so I think this was just sort of an

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<v Speaker 5>amalgamation of all of that and watching what was obvious

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<v Speaker 5>greatness in Jimmy Butler and knowing that, truthfully, I really

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<v Speaker 5>genuinely believed that he was the best player in that

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<v Speaker 5>series in terms of no, does he have is he

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<v Speaker 5>gonna have ultimately? I mean, look, we'll see what happens

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<v Speaker 5>now this year and maybe years going forward, but is

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<v Speaker 5>he going to have the type of legacy in the

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<v Speaker 5>game that Jannis ultimately will probably not? Giannest is going

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<v Speaker 5>to go down as one of the all time elite

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<v Speaker 5>players ever, will probably win multiple more championships from here.

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<v Speaker 5>But right now today, going into the playoffs, there was

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<v Speaker 5>not a player I would have wanted on my team

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<v Speaker 5>maybe besides nicallehokicch more than Jimmy Butler.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's it.

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<v Speaker 5>And he was the best player in that series, and

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<v Speaker 5>he's been the best player in each subsequent series.

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<v Speaker 2>Since you know what, I saw that take, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a kind of casual sports fan of other sports. It's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of nice to like not be so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like in depth involved in the other sports and just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of enjoy them as they are. And that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of how I approach basketball, at hockey and to an

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<v Speaker 2>extent baseball, I suppose. But you know, I was tweeting

0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:48.920
<v Speaker 2>about the Miami Heat that day, saying like, I want

0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:50.560
<v Speaker 2>to get this dub, I want to get into the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was the reaction that I got, was like, no,

0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:56.280
<v Speaker 2>we want to lose this game and get better lottery opportunities.

0:19:56.359 --> 0:20:00.760
<v Speaker 5>I was like, what, yeah, I think. Look, it was

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<v Speaker 5>a frustrating season. I can't understand for fans who were

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<v Speaker 5>so used to success. Why, Like for Jimmy Butler, this

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<v Speaker 5>was the first season with the Heat where there were

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<v Speaker 5>actually major expectations if you really think about it, where

0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.680
<v Speaker 5>they didn't meet the expectation. You know, the first season

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<v Speaker 5>he was here was the bubble and they go on

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<v Speaker 5>this unbelievable run. The following year it's like a six

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<v Speaker 5>week off season. So just about everybody understood this is

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<v Speaker 5>going to be a grind of a season. And when

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<v Speaker 5>they lost to Milwaukee in five, or rather were swept

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<v Speaker 5>by Milwaukee, it made sense Milwaukee ended up winning a

0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:39.200
<v Speaker 5>title like they were the most dominant team in the league,

0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:42.000
<v Speaker 5>and they had given the Heat trouble. Following season there

0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:44.399
<v Speaker 5>were one seed and they come a shot short of

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<v Speaker 5>going to the finals.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was in a year where nobody.

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<v Speaker 5>After the season they had in twenty twenty one, believed

0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:53.359
<v Speaker 5>that the Heat would be back in that situation and

0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:58.720
<v Speaker 5>so again exceeding expectations this year, all those expectations are there.

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<v Speaker 5>It's hey, what did you do in the off season. Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>it's just going to be running back, all right, let's

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<v Speaker 5>see what it is. And ultimately, for most of the

0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:08.840
<v Speaker 5>season from a wins and loss' perspective, they were falling

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<v Speaker 5>short of what people expected.

0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:12.760
<v Speaker 1>But those of us who.

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<v Speaker 5>Were watching and covering this team saw both Jimmy and

0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:20.400
<v Speaker 5>Bam having tremendous individual seasons Tyler Hero included, and it's

0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:22.960
<v Speaker 5>crazy that they're doing this without him, considering how great

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<v Speaker 5>he was this year. But Jimmy and Bam doing what

0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.240
<v Speaker 5>they were doing and saying, look if the role players

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<v Speaker 5>who we saw over a representative sample the season before

0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:37.320
<v Speaker 5>excelling if they could get close to that level of form. Again,

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<v Speaker 5>there's no reason to believe this team couldn't compete as

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<v Speaker 5>long as they get to the postseason, and ultimately that's

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<v Speaker 5>what happened. Now, did anybody expect fifty percent shooting from

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<v Speaker 5>three in that first series against Milwaukee? That would be

0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:51.040
<v Speaker 5>you could not convince me that was going to happen

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<v Speaker 5>in one game, let alone, I think in three different games.

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<v Speaker 5>But this has been a fun ride, and Jimmy Butler

0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:58.080
<v Speaker 5>is obviously the leader of the ship, but.

0:21:58.160 --> 0:21:59.119
<v Speaker 1>I love most about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I'm a cue of being a Homer

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, but I always just say I just

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<v Speaker 2>believe in what they're doing and have no issue being

0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:08.400
<v Speaker 2>critical when it's warranted. But when you believe in it,

0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.520
<v Speaker 2>it makes it more fun and the job easier to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm sure that you heard how much of a

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<v Speaker 2>home or take that was, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, believing in in heat culture and believing in a

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<v Speaker 5>culture in an organization. You know, I understand why, and

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<v Speaker 5>particularly over the last really like two decades, why the

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<v Speaker 5>shift has been to you know, this is about the

0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:34.679
<v Speaker 5>athletes on your team, and ultimately it is like like

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care how much culture you have.

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<v Speaker 5>If you don't have guys who are tremendous at what

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<v Speaker 5>they do, you're not going to be successful. But having

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<v Speaker 5>a culture and having a representative example of this is

0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:56.239
<v Speaker 5>how you go about winning allows players to excel at

0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:59.440
<v Speaker 5>what they do best. And so whether that's Eric Spolster

0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:02.440
<v Speaker 5>in the way that he coaches, whether that's pat Riley

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:04.000
<v Speaker 5>and the rest of the front office and the types

0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 5>of players that they decide to sign, whether that's all

0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:10.119
<v Speaker 5>of the assistant coaches, and whether that's Jimmy Butler and

0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:15.240
<v Speaker 5>Bamadabayo getting their teammates involved. There's so much growth from

0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:19.639
<v Speaker 5>week to week, month to month, season to season with

0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:24.119
<v Speaker 5>so many of these young players, that that's what a

0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:28.159
<v Speaker 5>culture is about. It's not necessarily that you know it's

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:30.879
<v Speaker 5>this magic or that you have to follow a specific

0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:34.880
<v Speaker 5>regimen and no, it's just about competing at the highest

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<v Speaker 5>level and trying to put your teammates or your players

0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:42.560
<v Speaker 5>in the best position to succeed. And you know, look,

0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.719
<v Speaker 5>this does put this season more than any in the

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:49.160
<v Speaker 5>history of this franchise, proves that this level of heat

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 5>culture is real and if you want to tie it

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<v Speaker 5>back to the Dolphins. Like Mike McDaniel's been at nearly

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.240
<v Speaker 5>every playoff game for a reason. Man, he's trying to

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 5>soak it all in. And I can tell you from

0:23:57.359 --> 0:23:59.639
<v Speaker 5>this is my obviously, I've been a fan of the

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 5>Miami Heat my entire life, right, Dwayne Wade is what

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:05.920
<v Speaker 5>got me into this team, and it's been a heck

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:10.159
<v Speaker 5>of a ride ever since. And to me, you know,

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:13.160
<v Speaker 5>I was always this outsider looking in, believing in Heat

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<v Speaker 5>culture and now being around the team a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, when I was first hired as a sideline

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<v Speaker 5>reporter this season, I think my second or third shoot around,

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<v Speaker 5>I was I was given a book, a novel that

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<v Speaker 5>has to do with with leadership, and it was attached

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:33.399
<v Speaker 5>with a printed out not necessarily handwritten, but a printed

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<v Speaker 5>out note from Spoe that was basically saying, like this

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:40.360
<v Speaker 5>is an example of like this is how we think,

0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:43.159
<v Speaker 5>this is what we do, this is the type of

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<v Speaker 5>leadership that we look for, and it's an insight into

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<v Speaker 5>what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>That they do.

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<v Speaker 5>And why would they care that a sideline reporter had

0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:56.480
<v Speaker 5>that insight. It's because the organization ultimately really cares and

0:24:56.880 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 5>it matters to them that everybody from top down within

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:05.160
<v Speaker 5>it and on the periphery understand the goals in mind.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's impressive. I hope you got through that book

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 2>and what a weekend or so? Yeah, just about Yeah,

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 2>that's when when Spoe hands you a book, you get

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 2>into that thing real quick and make sure you knock

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:17.160
<v Speaker 2>it out like a couple of Jimy Butler free throws

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:19.199
<v Speaker 2>late in the game. And you know, you mentioned the

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 2>culture there, and I want to come back to that

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 2>here in just a second, because you know, I'm obviously

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 2>a different timeline as far as where Spoe has been,

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 2>where his career has you know, taken him to this point,

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 2>and Mike McDaniel hoping to follow him, I'm sure a

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:32.200
<v Speaker 2>similar career path in terms of his success at this

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 2>level obviously, just you know, his second year in as

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 2>a head coach, and I think he's done a really

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:40.119
<v Speaker 2>good job of imparting his vision and his culture on

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:43.200
<v Speaker 2>this Dolphins football team and you know, empowering his players

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 2>to be themselves and to have fun with the with

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:47.560
<v Speaker 2>the process and you know, you make a play, go

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 2>and celebrate that big play. So it's been fun to

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:51.959
<v Speaker 2>see him get his fingerprints all over the roster, all

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 2>over the culture. I mean a roster that's just now

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.439
<v Speaker 2>chuck full of superstar players at this point, and that

0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:00.360
<v Speaker 2>wasn't always the case in Dolphins pass as you well

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<v Speaker 2>know being a south forda native. But what I wanted

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:06.359
<v Speaker 2>to do here because you know Jimmy Butler and the

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 2>culture setting they have there, and I think it's I

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 2>think there are some good parallels there between the two teams.

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 2>And I want to play this game with you that

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:15.119
<v Speaker 2>I played with Steve Goldstein on the podcast the last

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:17.880
<v Speaker 2>episode of Draft Time where he did a matchmaker where

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 2>you take Dolphins players and Panthers players for him, but

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:23.959
<v Speaker 2>for you Heat players, and you compare them. So so

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give you a list of guys Jimmy Butler

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 2>would be compared to who on the Dolphins roster?

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:30.919
<v Speaker 1>Oh man?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think it has to be Jalen Ramsey, right,

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:39.640
<v Speaker 5>It has to be in terms of this wild competitor

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 5>with also a big trash talking personality, right like and

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:45.199
<v Speaker 5>knowing like he's going to trash talk you and then

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:47.920
<v Speaker 5>he's gonna go ahead and shut you down. Also, I think

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 5>it's both right, it's getting in your face and then

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:55.359
<v Speaker 5>backing it up, and that like wild competitive character is

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:57.680
<v Speaker 5>part of what makes both of them who they are.

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 2>I think I thought you were gonna say Tyreek Hill.

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 2>It works for both obviously, but Ramsey's a good pick too.

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 5>The reason I look at it is as Ramsey actually

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 5>is is because Jimmy likes to do it on the

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 5>defensive bend, Like he'd rather shut you down than get his,

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean, Like he takes so much

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:15.879
<v Speaker 5>joy in that.

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 1>I think Jimmy.

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 5>I think on a given night, Jimmy Butler would way

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 5>rather have ten points, eight assists, nine rebounds and then

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:30.239
<v Speaker 5>like six steals in four blocks then drop forty Like

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 5>he'd way rather be a part of shutting another team

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 5>down than even getting his and just getting his teammates involved.

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the ultimate selfless athlete, right.

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 2>And we actually heard Kevin Harlan on the TNT broadcast

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 2>comparing him to ex and Jalen Ramsey after he had

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 2>like six interceptions in the game, which was so cool

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 2>to hear. Kevin Harlan is the man. I'm sure you

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 2>loved hearing that as well.

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh he's been He was sensatial on those calls.

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:55.399
<v Speaker 2>Since that's the only word to describe him with. What

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:56.440
<v Speaker 2>about Bam Autobio.

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 1>So I mean Bam Bam is Tua.

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<v Speaker 5>Bam is Tua in a lot of ways, and that

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 5>uh Bam loves to distribute to everybody else. Sam is

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 5>a a singular named entity with a heart of gold,

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 5>in the same way that Tua Taga bayla is right,

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:22.119
<v Speaker 5>nobody wants to say out of Bio and nobody wants

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 5>to say Taga bi looa. It's Bam and Tua. And

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 5>also in the same way that I think they've both

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 5>been excelling the entire time they've been in the league

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 5>and yet subject to this like really really microscopic level

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 5>of criticism that of of both their games and the

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 5>way that they assert themselves as leaders that's unwarranted for both.

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 5>So I think there's a really interesting parallel between the two. Well, obviously,

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 5>you know, Bam is this sort of freak of nature

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 5>athlete in a way that maybe Tua is not. At

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 5>his position, I think think it's the same same type

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 5>of character of just like yeah.

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna win, and

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do it with a smile. On my face.

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 2>That is really, really damn good, Jeremy. I'm just gonna

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 2>give you all the props for that. That was an incredible

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>comparison there, especially the single named Heart of Gold entity.

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 1>That's that's a no wonder.

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 2>You're on the Levatard show Man, the way he mastered

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 2>the English language, You're you're following his footsteps there with that.

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't do that. Don't do that. Let's let's keep

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>going here. Now we're gonna move on to some more.

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, I hate calling him role players because they're

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 2>so integral to the heat success. But I mean, let's

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 2>move on to you know, once you get past those

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.479
<v Speaker 2>guys and Tyler Herro, you talk about a Max Struce

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 2>for instance, Who's who's the Max Struce here on the

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Miami Dolphins.

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 5>Oh man, that's interesting. I'll say Max Druce is Christian

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 5>Wilkins in that. It's funny. The difference between Max and

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 5>Christian is that Christian wears his personality out on his

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 5>sleeve a little more and Max like wants to be reserved.

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 5>But it's clear like he's got that same level of

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 5>kind of jokey personality with him that's deep in there,

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 5>and it's also like you there, you notice them a

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 5>bunch of times during the game, but it's the stuff

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 5>that they do that goes unnoticed that really helps their

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 5>teams win. Obviously, that's the position for Christian Wilkins, Like,

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 5>no matter what, playing interior defensive line is going to

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 5>go almost underappreciated. But with Max, Like, what makes Max

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 5>amazing is the way he runs around constantly all game

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 5>on offense even when he's not involved. The way that

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 5>that he sets up his teammates by setting screens to

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 5>get other guys open while they're off ball still, and

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 5>it's like we notice him when he scores thirteen points

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 5>in a third quarter, and it's like, oh yeah, he

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 5>can also you know, offensively be one of the hottest

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 5>guys in the game. But really it's all the other

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 5>stuff that he does too, So I think those those

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 5>might be a decent mix.

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 2>He's probably my favorite player to celebrate just because the

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 2>strus is loose is the best saying.

0:30:54.840 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I think we have done here so good? What about I'm.

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Curious this one because I feel like this guy it

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 2>maybe's more this year than in the past.

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you can correct me if I'm wrong.

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 2>There has just exuded a level of confidence I think

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 2>has really helped his game go to the next level.

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking, of course about Gabe Vincent, who is his

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 2>analog with the Miami Dolphins.

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 5>Man is who Here's maybe a fun one. How about

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 5>Braxton Barrios. First of all, both of them with a

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 5>killer smile, right, like when those guys are smiling on

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 5>the field, you're really great about it, or smiling on

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 5>the court.

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 1>But you know this this scrappy little guy.

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 5>Who ultimately is like overachieving at the professional level.

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean Gabe Vincent.

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 5>What's amazing about Gabe is Gabe was a top line

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 5>scorer in college at a small school, right, I mean

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 5>he went to UC Santa Barbara. Not not like a

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 5>small school in terms of general population, but a small

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 5>school in terms of basketball program. He goes there, he

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 5>goes undrafted despite the fact that he's you know, this

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 5>really good score or because nobody can figure out what

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 5>is he a shooting guard?

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Is he a point guard? He comes into the.

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 5>League in the G League as a shooting guard. The

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 5>heat turned him into a point guard. Then he's not

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 5>only a point guard, he's now a point guard. That

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 5>usurps Kyle Lowry in the starting lineup, and then as

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 5>soon as Tyler Hero gets hurt, it's, oh, hey, go

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 5>do your best Tyler Hero impression. And then he did,

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 5>and then he did. It's the craziest thing. And and

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 5>and that's the part with Braxton that's kind of cool too,

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 5>is like Brax was a great college player. Like I

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 5>was an associate producer at WSBN during that run where

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 5>the Canes started ten and zero that season and went

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 5>to the Orange Bowl, and he was a blast to watch.

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 5>And he was one of those guys where I was like,

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 5>all right, he'll be able to do something.

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>And now you know, he's still hanging around in the pros.

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 5>He's still a part of the team, and he's he's

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 5>now back here in Miami.

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>So man, that's the comparison. It's a great one.

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, honestly, you talk about the different roles you

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 2>can fulfill Brax, and Barrows is certainly a four down

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 2>player in terms of special teams prowess. You know, to

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 2>give him a jet sweep if you want to. He

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 2>can do pretty much anything on a football field. So

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 2>you're helping me with the comparison than I. I mean,

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 2>you knocked it out of the park you and go.

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 2>I love how you took a little bit more of

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 2>like the smile. For instance, you mentioned like Goldie was

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more like on the ice in terms

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 2>and in the football field. But I like how you

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 2>expanded it there a little bit and uh and gave

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 2>us a little bit behind the scenes there as well.

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 2>And something else I talked to Goldie about with the Panthers,

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 2>and it applies to the heat very well. The exact

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 2>same way is how you know they go from being,

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 2>like you mentioned, a one seed a year ago and.

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 4>Higher expectations in the postseason.

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, it's the same path. It's really exact heart

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 5>each other. It's crazy, it really is.

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 2>And like you know, I was so heartbroken by that

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Game seven loss last year because I just the same

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 2>thing we saw we're seeing right now with you know,

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 2>the lack of respect that they seem to be getting

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 2>in the national media. Uh even up three to zero

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 2>in the Eastern Conference Finals. I felt they had that

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 2>the entire year last year, and it annoyed me that

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 2>they weren't getting picked to go to the finals by anybody.

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 2>And they took the Celtics to you know, one Jimmy

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Butler three point shot away from knocking them out last season.

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 2>But I'm curious to hear your take on this because,

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 2>and you know, Mike McDaniel had mentioned it through the

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 2>course of last season, all those tough games they had

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 2>in December, and it didn't go the way they hoped

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 2>it would in the majority of those games, but they

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 2>earned that valuable experience. They earned more valuable experience in

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 2>that loss up in Buffalo in the postseason. And for

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 2>the Panthers, you know, Goldie said that that Lightning series

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:26.720
<v Speaker 2>last year. He thinks that that series is what propelled

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.280
<v Speaker 2>this playoff run. I'm curious if you see something similar

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:31.760
<v Speaker 2>with the Heat this year after going through that struggle,

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, last season in the playoffs and then this

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 2>year having such an inconsistent regular season. That has to

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 2>have an impact on the way they're playing right.

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 5>Now, certainly, And I think all of it has had

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 5>a bit of a like wear and tear on these

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 5>guys just emotionally, right Like, when you think about the

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 5>Heat in particular in this core, right like, you look

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 5>back to twenty twenty and the roster is like almost

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 5>entirely different. It's just Jimmy Bam and Duncan. That's it,

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 5>Like that's everybody who's left. And Gabe was there, but

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 5>he didn't play in that twenty twenty run. But when

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 5>you look at that core and some of the guys

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:09.240
<v Speaker 5>who they've subsequent subsequently built around it, including Max Struce

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 5>and Caleb Martin and Gabe Vincent and now Kyle Lowry

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 5>and all these guys, you know, the last four years

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 5>have been this emotional rollercoaster, and it's totally understandable to

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 5>think that coming off of such a heartbreaking loss, you know,

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 5>on your home court, inch literally inches away from advancing

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:35.240
<v Speaker 5>to the NBA Finals as a one seed after nobody

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:37.439
<v Speaker 5>thought you could do it, after having been a couple

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:39.800
<v Speaker 5>of years before and getting swept out of the playoffs

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 5>in the year in between, Like, there's bound to be

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 5>an emotional letdown. And I think this season the heat

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 5>came in the same group of guys, the same locker room,

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 5>a smaller locker room than in football, So you know,

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 5>personalities can kind of wear and tear on each other

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:57.320
<v Speaker 5>a little bit when it's the same message and the

0:35:57.360 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 5>same thing over and over again, and ultimately, you know

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 5>they needed their backs up against the wall. And so

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 5>when they got to the trade deadline and there weren't

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 5>any really major moves, but in the buy out market

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 5>they're able to get Kevin Love, who has been I mean,

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 5>from a ViBe's perspective as well as his as well

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 5>as his obviously play on the court, but from a

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 5>ViBe's perspective, a godsend to the locker room. I mean,

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 5>he's such a bridge between these young guys who were

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 5>looking at him for guidance and the veterans and Jimmy

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 5>and Kyle who respect the hell out of him, and

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 5>he's just a fun personality, and so he's made a

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:40.320
<v Speaker 5>huge difference, honestly, and in the way everybody gets along

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 5>along with Cody Zeller, another veteran, and you get a

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 5>couple of new personalities in there, and then you realize,

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 5>oh crap, if we don't start getting it together, we

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 5>might not actually even make the playoffs, And all of a.

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Sudden, the competitive juices get going again.

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 5>And really, if you look at the last six weeks

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:59.800
<v Speaker 5>of the season, there are the occasional outlier games, almost

0:36:59.880 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 5>like what I imagine Game four against Boston may look

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 5>like ultimately, But there are the occasional outlier games where

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 5>the heat turned the ball over a lot, didn't get

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:11.359
<v Speaker 5>back on defense, struggled from three, gave up a lot

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 5>of threes, and got blown out of the building. But

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 5>during the last six weeks, their three point shooting and

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 5>their defense improved significantly from every single world player on

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 5>the team, and it's what allowed them to get into

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 5>the position to be in the play and to begin with,

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 5>and they were close to getting to that sixth seed.

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 5>Ultimately they have that aberration of a game where they

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:32.840
<v Speaker 5>dropped the first play in but backs up against the

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 5>wall end of the fourth quarter. They turn it on

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 5>and from there, it's been this really fun ride where

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 5>all of these guys who are you know, we talk

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 5>about it all the time. They come from being undrafted.

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:46.760
<v Speaker 5>A lot of them are Vets now, but they carry

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:49.759
<v Speaker 5>that chip on their shoulder collectively as a unit, and

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:52.840
<v Speaker 5>to watch all of them come together and compete this way,

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 5>it feels like watching a really fun like March Madness run.

0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 5>Like it feels like there's just like a bunch of

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 5>seniors who have been together for four years and just

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:06.280
<v Speaker 5>you know, really understand how each other's games work better

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 5>than these other teams that are led by freshmen, and

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, they might not be the most talented team

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 5>in the league, but they're able to figure it out

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 5>with a genius head coach, a little bit of his

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:19.240
<v Speaker 5>own defense, and you know, some timely three point shooting.

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly why I don't understand this I guess apprehension,

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 2>apprehension around the heat as a potential finals team and

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 2>all the ratings talk, because what you just said about

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 2>the NCAA team, like they are loyal and merimount, like

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:35.479
<v Speaker 2>they are that team that everyone should be rallying around,

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 2>because of the way they play, because of the way

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:39.759
<v Speaker 2>they hustle back in transition, the way Kyle Lowry even

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 2>in Game four, like they talked about in the broadcast,

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 2>he went down there and got like a foul before

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 2>an easy bucket and they missed a free throw, like

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 2>it saves you a point. These little things they do

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 2>that just generate, you know, the ultimate I guess path

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 2>to victory. It's what makes me love this team so

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 2>much and why it was so easy for me, a

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 2>diehard Sonics fan back in the Northwest growing up when

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:01.759
<v Speaker 2>they moved away to pivot towards a team coach by

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Eric Spolstrow because one, I love the Dolphins, so it

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 2>made sense. I love Dwayne Wade, so it made sense

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:08.360
<v Speaker 2>to be a Miami guy. But then the way they

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 2>play was what really brought me in. So I just

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 2>don't understand why it's difficult for outsiders to get on

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 2>this bandwagon, because it's so much fun to watch, and

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 2>it's it's kind of unique in a league where you know,

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 2>it's the isolation and spacing is kind of more of

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 2>the key. This team does it in multiple ways, and again,

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I think the parallels are there to the Dolphins in

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 2>terms of how they do things and the guys they

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 2>bring in. And I want to go ahead and bring

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 2>it back to that, Jeremy to end the podcast here

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 2>because you mentioned it earlier. You know, Mike McDaniel comes

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 2>out to I saw a tweet today someone posted like

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:41.879
<v Speaker 2>Mike McDaniel spotted at a Junior National Soccer U eighteen game,

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Like they're making fun of the fact that he's at

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 2>all these sporting events, which is so cool to see

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:49.799
<v Speaker 2>him supporting you know, the local teams down here and

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:53.839
<v Speaker 2>that arena is packed with celebrities every single night. But

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Mike McDaniel finds a way to kind of be one

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 2>of the one, you know, foremost among them. I'm curious,

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, as someone that worked so long to have

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 2>the team there and you get books given to you

0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 2>by Eric Spolstra, how those guys view the Dolphins inclusion

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 2>into their their support, their community. And you know, Eric

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Boelscher comes out here for practices sometimes. I think he

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 2>brought Chris Quinn last year at one point. I just

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 2>want to kind of hear your perspective on the Dolphins

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 2>and Heat relationship.

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:19.400
<v Speaker 5>Well, I think they love it, and I think that

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 5>the cool part for the Heat is that because they've

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 5>so established what they're about, what their culture is, their winners,

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:31.400
<v Speaker 5>all these things, there gets to be this sort of

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:35.800
<v Speaker 5>welcoming hand to any other organization in the market, whether

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 5>that team is in the process of rebuilding or struggling,

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 5>or whether they're a team right now, like you know

0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 5>the Panthers were this season, and the Dolphins are primed

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 5>for a lot of success hopefully in the postseason, you know.

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 5>And I think that what's really great is to have

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 5>a guy like Mike McDaniel around, because Spoe loves an

0:40:55.480 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 5>inquisitive coach. Su right, Like you ask Spoe question about coaching,

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<v Speaker 5>He'll go on for hours. And so having someone like

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<v Speaker 5>Mike McDaniel around, who already is such a unique thinker

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<v Speaker 5>in the way that he approaches his sport, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 5>Spoe is also asking him questions because look, Eric Sposter

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<v Speaker 5>was already a head coach in the NBA and then

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<v Speaker 5>learned zone and defense from Jim Larenega because he was

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<v Speaker 5>he knew that Jim Larenega knew a lot about Jim

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<v Speaker 5>Beheim's own defense at Syracuse and said, all right, teach

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<v Speaker 5>me what you know, because ween he might need to

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<v Speaker 5>start incorporating this at moments in the NBA. And so

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<v Speaker 5>being inquisitive about coaching and being inquisitive about leadership is

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<v Speaker 5>the type of stuff that I know Eric's Sposter loves,

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<v Speaker 5>and Mike McDaniel seems to be the type of guy

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<v Speaker 5>who wants to learn those things too, right.

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<v Speaker 1>He has his own.

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<v Speaker 5>Obvious, you know, quirks about the way that he wants

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<v Speaker 5>to be as a leader. But I think a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of it also has to do with the same exact

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<v Speaker 5>approach that Spoe had, which is player empowerment to be

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<v Speaker 5>themselves with a motivation to compete at the highest possible level.

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<v Speaker 5>And so when you can master it the way that

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<v Speaker 5>Eric Spolstra has, which is getting the most out of

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<v Speaker 5>his players, I can understand why Mike McDaniel would be

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<v Speaker 5>there looking dispoe to go, all right, how do I

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<v Speaker 5>get the most out of this team? And you've coached

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<v Speaker 5>a star or two in your day, helped me learn

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<v Speaker 5>how to manage all these egos, you know, because you've

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<v Speaker 5>got to make sure everybody's ego gets fed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's part of your job as a head coach. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just strategy.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you're you're a leader of a group of people,

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<v Speaker 5>and you need to make sure that everybody feels valued

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<v Speaker 5>the way that they're supposed to. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>there's anybody in coaching better at it than Eric Spolstro.

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<v Speaker 5>Like you'll ask him a question about the you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the quote unquote undrafted players and this and that, and

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<v Speaker 5>he'll praise all of them and then wrapped within it,

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 5>he's also giving Jimmy and Bam love for distributing the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's like he's also struck the egos of his

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<v Speaker 5>stars within the answer about his unappreciated players, and if

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 5>he talks about how great the stars are, He'll be

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<v Speaker 5>sure to say and because of the types of screens

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:13.320
<v Speaker 5>that Heywood high Smith was setting. You know, so there's

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<v Speaker 5>this genius of even coaching when he's speaking to the media,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think Mike McDaniel, I'm sure is trying to

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<v Speaker 5>just soak up all of that and what it feels

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<v Speaker 5>like to see Miami on I know Mario Cristobal was

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<v Speaker 5>at the game the other night, sort of there for

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 5>some of the same reasons. He brought his roster or

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 5>the University of Miami football team. They were all there

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<v Speaker 5>just to sort of see what it looks like when

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<v Speaker 5>Miami is really going, because I mean, that's got to

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<v Speaker 5>be incredibly motivating for you know, anyone else who's playing

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 5>sports down here.

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<v Speaker 2>My first heat game, I just laid to my wife

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<v Speaker 2>and said, this is awesome. Like you got like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>DJ kallis spinning the records over there, Rick Ross is rapping.

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 2>You've got Alex Rodriguez hanging out with Floyd Mayweather court

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:56.279
<v Speaker 2>signed like such an experience to go to a heat

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 2>game in the basketball game hasn't hurt either. To bring

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<v Speaker 2>it all home. You know, you talked about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>coach McDaniel and Spolstra. I think a Mic and Spoe

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<v Speaker 2>podcast might do some numbers man something like that. They

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<v Speaker 2>got to get together on something because that those two

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<v Speaker 2>guys talking sports. Oh my goodness, that's just that's my

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<v Speaker 2>My mind went there originally or initially I should say,

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<v Speaker 2>and just kind of stuck there. But good stuff, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeremy Tashe, uh, flashy t Is that a good one?

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<v Speaker 2>That's I just came without my own and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if that works.

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<v Speaker 5>I like that one, Like, yeah, Jackson's been calling me

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 5>Tash money, which is just it's a lot, but I

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<v Speaker 5>love it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the new one I heard from Goldie on the out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, he's Jeremy Tashe Levatard Show, Bally Sports, Mindy

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<v Speaker 2>Miked Up podcast. You can find him on Twitter at

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<v Speaker 2>Jeremy Tash. Jeremy, thank you so much for your time today, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully we'll see you here soon and maybe covering a

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<v Speaker 2>parade or two.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh god, don't don't even get me started. Thanks man,

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 5>appreciate you having me.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a blast anytime. Thanks love buddy.

0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 2>And so there you go, and that podcast was recorded

0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:02.600
<v Speaker 2>when the heat were up three to zero, so stressful moments.

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 2>They're thinking about getting to put this thing out because

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<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't have aged very well, I think if they

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't won that game.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go. Let's go ahead and get out

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<v Speaker 1>of here.

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