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Speaker 1: Welcome to It's Up There Podcast, your number one place

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Speaker 1: for business in podcast getting rank number through these six

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Speaker 1: your little motherfucking world shit back, Drown up the volume

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Speaker 1: on your phone and enjoy the show with your homie

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Speaker 1: ana hosts. Big Louse, Welcome to another episode of It's

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Speaker 1: Up There Podcast. I am your active and attractive hosts

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Speaker 1: for another episode of the fasts growing podcasts on the market.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we have peaked at number thirty six in

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Speaker 1: the music category. We want to get back there, so

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Speaker 1: you guys share this content. We want to welcome everybody,

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Speaker 1: the new listenership, the old team, the home team to

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Speaker 1: hate us. We want to welcome everybody to tap in

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Speaker 1: and get some game. That's what this platform is foeing

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Speaker 1: to have a good time and just you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of look at the culture through a different lens, right,

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Speaker 1: and not only hip hop. I want you to know

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Speaker 1: I'm not pitching hold into just hip hop. Right. I

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Speaker 1: have a wide variety of topics that I can talk

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Speaker 1: about in regards to culture. Um, A lot of times

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Speaker 1: when I say culture, everybody takes hip hop, and I

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Speaker 1: do mean hip hop because we control culture. But culture

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Speaker 1: transcends hip hop, and so I'm tapped in in areas

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Speaker 1: that most people may or may not be tapped in.

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Speaker 1: If they are, that makes it even better because I

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Speaker 1: can learn from them in regards to some of those things.

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Speaker 1: Why why I have blind spots set right, So that's

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Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. Now, if you are listening to the

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Speaker 1: audio version of this podcast and you want to check

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Speaker 1: out the video, you head anyway you get you head

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Speaker 1: to YouTube, I'm sorry, not anyway. You get podcasts, You

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Speaker 1: head to YouTube. Type in fogfo tv and will be

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Speaker 1: upload videos there. Videos drop every Thursday at midnight, so

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Speaker 1: Thursday on the wake up you get to tune in

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Speaker 1: to the video portion of what you're listening to. Now

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Speaker 1: that drop on Mondays, right, So that's that's kind of

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Speaker 1: our the way that we unload the content. Also, if

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Speaker 1: you're looking at the video version and wondering what is this?

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Speaker 1: I like this and you're a podcast person. Anyway, you

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Speaker 1: get podcasts, typing this up the podcast and then we

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Speaker 1: should pop up and we'll keep it moving in that way. Um,

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Speaker 1: the game has so many different facets, so many different

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Speaker 1: things they happen, and we got a lot going on

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Speaker 1: right now. We got a lot going on and for me.

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Speaker 1: I know the people enjoy, you know, hearing me speak

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Speaker 1: about it, and I enjoy breaking it down again. I

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Speaker 1: don't come here with no type of talking point, no note,

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Speaker 1: no nothing. As these topics arise, I kind of just

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Speaker 1: get into them. And again the first see what podcasting man, man,

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Speaker 1: It's just it's it's just a hell of a thing

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Speaker 1: in regards to how you gotta communicate. And I'm in

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Speaker 1: the third leg of my brand building process in which

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Speaker 1: I want to now branch out and start to teach

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Speaker 1: children the importance of communication and about kind of like

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Speaker 1: the podcasting game and radio and broadcasting, just that whole field.

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Speaker 1: Because even if you never go that route, communication is

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Speaker 1: so important as everything can be negotiating, right, So if

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Speaker 1: you're strong in your communication and you're understanding UM, then

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Speaker 1: some of the other people. And so I want to

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Speaker 1: want to take this up there, podcast maybe into schools,

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Speaker 1: definitely into the ghetto UM and bring awareness and tools

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Speaker 1: and tutoring, tutorage as to communication, as to how to

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Speaker 1: of these things, because again, communication can take you a

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Speaker 1: long long way, right, Communication can take you a long way,

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Speaker 1: and so we definitely want to explore that on our

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Speaker 1: to that. Again, we got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 1: We got the Karen Civil thing we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: with Hunt, Jonah Lucas, got the Big Facts and bird

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Speaker 1: Man shout out banking, scream, Baby Jay, that whole team revote.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot to talk about. The game is

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Speaker 1: just it's constantly fluctu waiting. I heard Joe Button say

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Speaker 1: Cole mix or remix or jacking for beats, whatever you

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about Door. I want to kind

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Speaker 1: of lead in with the big Facts interview with bird Man.

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Speaker 1: Before I get to that door, I want to make

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Speaker 1: sure I'm cleared with my community cation about you are

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Speaker 1: in the place that starts the conversations. If you go

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Speaker 1: about two months back, three months back, I was already

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Speaker 1: I knew people would discredit bird Man and Pe. We

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Speaker 1: and drinks and all that. I brought that to the game, right.

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Speaker 1: I know bird Man, that's his understanding, p that's they

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Speaker 1: understanding people in the camp because they was part of it.

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Speaker 1: But I always said, Yo, we gotta speak for the South, right,

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Speaker 1: But it's important that we evolved with the game the

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Speaker 1: same way we've done with music. So in our podcasting,

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Speaker 1: in our media in the South, we don't disregard the North,

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Speaker 1: but we don't we don't view it with the same

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Speaker 1: lens right in regards to sometimes you have that hometown

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Speaker 1: hero vibe, and we gotta make sure that we don't

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Speaker 1: adopt that as much. But we also do shit light

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Speaker 1: on the people that's responsible for a lot of the

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Speaker 1: things that we currently are making millions of dollars off of,

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Speaker 1: and that is in the South. Right. My communication about that,

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Speaker 1: people were saying, oh, it's up North, no question. Go

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Speaker 1: look at the post on my Instagram. Fojffo Looning underscore

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Speaker 1: Loning on Instagram. It's hundreds of people under there. Now, No,

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Speaker 1: it ain't no man the North. I'm like, Yo, y'all

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Speaker 1: just pure dey record sales. Then I start talking about

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Speaker 1: When we talk about Nikki, we gotta credit that the

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Speaker 1: cash money, even though she's from New York. Right. So again,

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Speaker 1: understanding all of those things, But for some reason, inside

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Speaker 1: the culture, we didn't have a voice. But Loon been

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Speaker 1: spread the word. Loon been speaking this. I've been putting

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Speaker 1: pass them, you understand. But I've been speaking about, Yo,

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Speaker 1: the South, the contributed to this game that y'all call

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Speaker 1: hip hop in a way. Well, I'm not sure that

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Speaker 1: y'all appreciate the way that we would like to see,

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Speaker 1: you understand, Because the way we look at jay we

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Speaker 1: give Jayden flowers. How many people up that way give

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Speaker 1: It's just a it's a weird thing happening to y'all

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Speaker 1: busy thing. But again, who've been said these things? And

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Speaker 1: I like all of them dudes, gonna have a conversation

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Speaker 1: I've been saying yo, man, I represent the South. I

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Speaker 1: that can't be ignored. I don't ignore nothing. I don't

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Speaker 1: take advice. I only take information because to me, id

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Speaker 1: vice ain't nothing, but somebody with some kind of gut feeling.

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Speaker 1: Information is somebody that knows something about what we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: So I don't take advice, and I'm not arrogant. I

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Speaker 1: I needed to run. New information bring it on. I

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Speaker 1: take that in. I'm in Bluetooth Molde all day. Every day.

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Speaker 1: You will start to see people adopt what I say.

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Speaker 1: You'll start people see people try to dance around things

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Speaker 1: that I've already said that you'll be like, yo, that's

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Speaker 1: that's the same point that dude, what's saying. Great minds

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Speaker 1: It gets a little spooky. But see, I told myself.

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Speaker 1: You know, people are saying, a yo, don't repurpose your content,

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Speaker 1: I'm next to Charlemagne and we have some interaction in

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Speaker 1: regards to a show, not just some shit I'm taking

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Speaker 1: out of proportion, which that's something that they're doing too.

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Speaker 1: I know plenty of dudes that run up on somebody,

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Speaker 1: Hey can I get a picture bra and post it

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Speaker 1: and be like some kind of caption, like you know,

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Speaker 1: breaking new ground. Harry Tugman ain't the only one bale

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Speaker 1: So it's all about the information you got, m But

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Speaker 1: you got people that are saying, hey, even if you

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Speaker 1: have an interaction with Charlemagne where y'all do a show

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Speaker 1: and Joe Button is going live in the morning and talking,

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Speaker 1: that's saying don't recycle that, meaning don't continue to speak

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Speaker 1: about that on your own platforms. And I couldn't disagree more.

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Speaker 1: The thing about this game is literally, spend a bunch

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Speaker 1: just Facebook and that's just to get five hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: follows a million followers, right, So you gotta understand what's

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Speaker 1: happening to do this. So people are uberpooling to the money. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: people uberpooling to the money. And that's what I keep

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Speaker 1: Then when y'all get to the spot, figure out, all right,

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Speaker 1: get what they're asking. Hey man, so what do you give? What?

424
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: What kind of advice do you give an up and

425
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: coming artists that's trying to get on in this game.

426
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: I'll be saying to myself, ain't this a dude? They

427
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: don't know? I'm thinking, is that what he just asked him? Oh?

428
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 1: That broad of a question. When we're dealing with specifics

429
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: with these dudes. These dudes done it they self, They

430
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: got specific information and you're double down on them. Hey man,

431
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: for you go this is the last part of the interview.

432
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: Let me know they don't care about passing the game

433
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: down the very end of the interview, Hey man, for

434
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: you go, what would you say to an up and

435
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: coming podcaster or artists in this game? Well, man, just

436
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: keep grinding, man and unbelieving yourself? And um, make why

437
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: are we giving them these kind of questions when these

438
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: is me and that's dealing with the ends and ouns?

439
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: You gotta ask them? Hey man, when you first started,

440
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,959
Speaker 1: who did you hire to get your first such and sunch? Oh? Man,

441
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: this lady name Angie. Matter of facts, she's still on

442
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: my team. Andrew put the shares she over there, Angie. Man,

443
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: When I first started, I was looking for a way,

444
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: had to get my brand equity. Man, And um I

445
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: could you understand that kind of game? Hey what agency?

446
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: Man would you? Hey man, who would you go through? Man?

447
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: If if you had to? Man, let's say you had

448
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: the money and you was a young up and coming

449
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: Say I got Mona Scott there yet up and I'm

450
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: in coming producer. Who would you hire to legitimize your business?

451
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: Fuck out that? But again it's the mindset. These people

452
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: are already owned. They don't care nothing about nobody else

453
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: getting home. I come from a place where everybody pulling

454
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: on me. Man, I gotta start handing the information down

455
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: here man, get off of me. Man here, man, go

456
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: get you lasc and do this. And you see, but

457
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: we view bird Man and peeing all them dudes from

458
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: a different ends and respected it from a standpoint like

459
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: now executing top not supreme, supreme game. And that's what

460
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: I keep telling you, our brain to the coach a

461
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: supreme game. Let's listen to a little more and it's respectable.

462
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, let's say we deserve ours because

463
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: we the game. They had it, they had it, now

464
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,719
Speaker 1: we got it, and we ain't never letting it go. Yo.

465
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: Like you said, we gotta goddamn step each other for

466
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: like you put it up, it stopping this ship. You

467
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I ain't gonna on the couch

468
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: shit like niggas gotta step each other, you know what. Man,

469
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: that's get this store out what I'm saying. And I'm

470
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: gonna say this about bank again, man, because again, you

471
00:28:54,360 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: know it just it just feels away. It feels the

472
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: way dog when you you know I got bank number,

473
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: you know I don't go to blowing bank up or

474
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: doing all that old sucker ass shitty. You know what

475
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Because I know we're hustling. You hustling, I'm hustling.

476
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: Then when I reach out, I need to you dig

477
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: so for me. When I hear him say that, I

478
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: know he means that. When I hear dude say that, Yo,

479
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: niggas gotta stamp each other, I know he means that. Caw, Dude,

480
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: he comes through and fucking with me for nothing, just

481
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: because he fucking with what I'm doing. And he got

482
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: my blessing in anything whenever, because we know, you know

483
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: we're going up there. That's why it's called that you understand,

484
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: but understanding from a from a perspective of Yo, we

485
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: gotta just in the South, we got that type of

486
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: you dribble a little bit and past the ball, dribble

487
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: a little bit past the ball the whole time we're

488
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: moving toward the goal. Though, we're both racking up assists

489
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: as we scorn. And that's what we gotta do for

490
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: each other when it's time. Though, that don't mean we

491
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: can just go to messing with everybody and just yeah, everybody,

492
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: get on because your ship gotta be a certain level too,

493
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: because we also need our representation to stay in a

494
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: certain spot too. Now, So don't hold us accountable just

495
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: because we do. Gotta make sure we're in good hands too.

496
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: Now we're putting people in place that do represent certain

497
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: things and have a certain understanding that ain't gonna get

498
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: up at oh fumble, he fumbled the whole plate, the bag, everything,

499
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: and then we gotta build somebody else back up to

500
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: do that right. So sound decisions and sound man, I

501
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: also believe too. Man. That again just the baseness. But

502
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: even if a nigga don't get this story out my accomplishness,

503
00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: it's already out. It's out already. Were billion records, billion

504
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: two part five billion dollars when Universal, and they made

505
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 1: eight hundred million off of me. Ain't none of these

506
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: niggas ever saw a bet you have the lights on

507
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: over there, pretty money, see no being this ship like

508
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: our heir. I'm talking real money, no small talk, any

509
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: money any man, get out the music business. It gotta

510
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: be respectful. I'm un million to one hundred million or

511
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: just a couple hundred dollars. It's a blessing for us

512
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: because we didn't had to go through school and do

513
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: all the ship we had to do. Nigga choose rapping

514
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: that shit just words. You got some of the most

515
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: uneducated niggas in the world to make millions of dollars.

516
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: But I'm one of them. I'm one of them. My brother,

517
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: my brother, Ronald Winnams, my everything. My brother dropped out

518
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: of school in the seventh grade. Nigga super intelligent, know

519
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: how to make money, give money, and keep money. But

520
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm just saying to say that there's a game we

521
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: chose and we're gonna beat. You got these the young

522
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: niggas right now today, all the way wild. That's why

523
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: they're all going the pennant. I'm gonna go to another

524
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 1: part of the interview. Man, it's a great interview. If

525
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: you haven't checked it out Big Facts Podcast, be with me,

526
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: Man Fresh, I just wanted to have a so all right,

527
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: let me lay the framework right. So what we're moving

528
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 1: to a different part of the interview where Birdman went

529
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: to speaking about the contract disputes that he may or

530
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: may not have with some people that were signed with him.

531
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: Some of the people came in the game with and

532
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: he wanted to he wanted to lead a game, you know,

533
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: in good faith and in good tech with the people

534
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: he came out he came in the game with. And

535
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: that's respectable because a lot of these people get the

536
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: money and say, Man, I don't care what they're talking about.

537
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: You understand me. So he wanted to clear it up

538
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: so we ain't hearing nobody dispute this. He said. He

539
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: didn't cleared it up with everybody, But we're gonna speak

540
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: about a certain particular part that he's talking about. We're

541
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: gonna let him speak and then we'll be right back

542
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: with it. Sank. That was the investment. You hear then

543
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: and put some on it. I invested in them. Know

544
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is if they feel like you fucked

545
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: though and then you got while you got a nigga

546
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: like nah juvenile with me? Yea man, man Fresh, I

547
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: just wanted to have a clear relationship with people that

548
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: I started the business with. Everybody that I started with.

549
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm in good space with him. Fresh know what I

550
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: did now, I don't know what I did. I ain't

551
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: know what I did. If not, you think they'll be

552
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: fucking with me, Yeah, they're fucking with me for a reason.

553
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: You think y'all you think NBA doing another Hot way

554
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: elm who you think they'll be a doing another hot

555
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: bay Al. I don't even know what nigga want to

556
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: do that, brother, that's a show old and BG behind

557
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: the wall. That's my little point. And I talked to

558
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: him all the time. That's not what's important. But niggas

559
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: got to figure out how they fresh right now make

560
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: more money than he ever made before he was doing music.

561
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: Because the catalog we got, I may show that every

562
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: nigga wrapped on all fresh beats so fresh make tons

563
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: of money. Right, he should be salute me like a motherfucker.

564
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: You're he and now one of the most book niggas

565
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: out the crew. Wayne, Wayne, you know he gonna keep

566
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: it up. I don't know what the fuck Turk doing,

567
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: but I'm want to show he getting money. But and BG,

568
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: when he come home, he's gonna get mother too. Brother.

569
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: So every nigga I'm started with, I'm blessed. Me and

570
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: Nikki what Drake never had no problems, always been a

571
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: clean slate. Me and young Thug. That's like my motherfucking son.

572
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: My brother like gave him the blessing and he took

573
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: it off. With it, Pluto, same thing and be a

574
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: young boy. He's gone with it, the same thing you touch.

575
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: It just happened to be like that. That's fact. You're up,

576
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: big facts up. I gotta guard in me. Yeah, oh okay,

577
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: I gotta guard Yeah. And I don't take it for granted.

578
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: I don't play with it. I don't play with my blessings.

579
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: And I try to stay out the whale. Any kind

580
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: of goofy shiit, what'sn't next? Stuff putting me in a move?

581
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: I just wanna keep going when I'm going, I just

582
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: want to keep blessing these young niggas and things and

583
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: ships set up. We was gonna go make a few moves.

584
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: But whenever guard do a lot of that man to

585
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: come out that sale. He's telling about another nigga. I'm

586
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: gonna start and finished how I started. Jissel guaranteed he

587
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,479
Speaker 1: gonna end up. He's gonna complete his career with cash,

588
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: money records. Yeah, and that's a ain't no more discussion.

589
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: I think he he got it. I listened to him,

590
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: he wrapped him me. He I know he got I

591
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: believe in him, and I'm fucking with him. I'm sucking

592
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: until I died. That's like my nigga. Oh, I'm not niggas.

593
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: You're right right? And then so like I know, like

594
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: when I used to come down there, like I went

595
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: to your mother's restaurant, club that she had and the

596
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: house that you normal, like they let me like on

597
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: a different level link the same thing you touch. It

598
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: just happened to be. But niggas gotta figure out how

599
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: they wanted to have a clear relationship with I gotta

600
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: take my lick that was on me. I can't even

601
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: I take a link for that. But I produced. Yeah,

602
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: I want my ship. How do you feeling when they

603
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: put it out there? Like you just be taken from nigga?

604
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: Though I say, bro, I don't get my feelings in it,

605
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: but I ain't never took from them, nigga. I always

606
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: blessed niggas. But why saying that? He said, like everybody produced,

607
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: any nigga don't pay, Bro. I had some incidents early on. Yeah,

608
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: because I was really young in this ship. I ain't

609
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: know no better, but every problem in my head, I

610
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: cleared it up. Or you're saying any nigga that ever

611
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: fought like they got, I cleared it up. Yeah, I

612
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: paid any nigga that got because I was young, but

613
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: I remember, I'm telling you, I'm twenty years old. So

614
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: a lot of shit happened early on. I just ain't knowing,

615
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: and I went to these white folks and then I

616
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: tended to the business. But I'm thinking, I'm not really knowing.

617
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: But any nigga that had any problem from my son

618
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: on down, and I gave him fifty men. I cleared

619
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: it up because I ain't want my name like that,

620
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 1: especially with Wayne that's like mine, that's like I'm nothing

621
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: without this dude like that that I didn't want. But

622
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: it happened. But I aired that shit out. But even

623
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: every other nigga, I just wanted to clear it up.

624
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: And the white force and myself we cleared it up.

625
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: And like I said, but it was earlier on in

626
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: me and I ain't know and I take a look

627
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, I can't even I take a look

628
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: for that, but I cleared it up. I always tell people, right,

629
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: I always tell people that you know this game, this

630
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 1: this music game because you hit bird Man talk about listen.

631
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: I was young. I didn't really know what we're going on,

632
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: but I cleared it up. So I always tell people

633
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: this game here, it's it's no different than it's no

634
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: different than the dope game. It's it's no different, right,

635
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's no, it's no different than the

636
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: dope game. What what happens is those dudes that I

637
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: was just talking about, they were breaking ground. They were

638
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: breaking ground, jay Z, bird Man, Master Pete, Dame Dad,

639
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: you know top Dog, you know Block Block who did

640
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: some work with did it did it? You know a

641
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: lot of these people QC even breaking ground because they

642
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: redefining it, redefining what bird Man them did. But in

643
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: the streaming age, right, But that's another conversation. I always

644
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: tell y'all what happens z is or what happened in

645
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: them nineties, in them early two thousands zals, it was

646
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: a lack of information in the game. Nobody knew how

647
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: to move around a contract. The wording we were. We

648
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: was off the heels of TLC getting three cents for

649
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: an album selling ten million and being broke, going bankrupt.

650
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: We were off the Master MC hammer going broke. Right,

651
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: nobody understood the game. Then. The safest thing to do

652
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: at that time was just copy the people that was

653
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: making the money. So what the label done to me,

654
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: I do to you. That's the safest way. That's all

655
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: we know. We don't have no information until we start

656
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: to get financially stable and start to pay people to

657
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: look into those things. And it's like, oh, that meant that. Hey, yo,

658
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: that's not fair, bro, I gotta wait thirty years. What

659
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Y'all didn't pay for anything like

660
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: it was. Nobody knew how I get three cents and

661
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: I'm on tour every day badly See my family did

662
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: all of the the scene and do all of the performing.

663
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: I get three cents. Nobody knew. But again, it's just

664
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: like the Dope game. Whoever introduced you to the game

665
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: is who you're gonna implement your game off of until

666
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: you get to a point where you understand. If the

667
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: dude to introduce you to the dope game seal a

668
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: soldo ball, you're gonna be selling soda ball. It's gonna

669
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: be cut taste bad. They's keep a lot of film.

670
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: They're gonna be saying, what's going on with this dude.

671
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: But then as you get in the game, right because

672
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 1: you implement him because he's introducing you to the game.

673
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: But once you get in the game, you see, Oh

674
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: that's why he go broke. They comfort to him as

675
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: a last result when ain't nobody got nothing because it's

676
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: his stuff. Ain't no good. You take a little cut

677
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: off of it. Now they coming back. Now you're able

678
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: to build your bankroll up. Now you're figuring out. Oh

679
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: he just didn't know what he was then people then

680
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: the labels didn't build us. They don't really know what

681
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: we know. We boots on the ground. We understood shirts

682
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: was settling when they was like, what are you doing?

683
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: When we wanted to upload on YouTube and talk to

684
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: the fans, and they said, no, mystique, mestique, don't make

685
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: yourself available, right, they don't understand what's going on. So

686
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: as we got up there, then we got the information

687
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: and were able to pivot and start to give people

688
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: more fact situations. I gotta make money doing things, but

689
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: I don't want to own this, so I don't want

690
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: to own that, or or you know, just certain things

691
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta edit, We gotta edit. But at first,

692
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: starting off man the folks didn't know. They just peplem

693
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: in aoy. They probably was even asking labels, had help

694
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: from labels to start their label. They probably went inside

695
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: def JAM and one of their labels, like, Yo, I'm

696
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: thinking about starting the label if you guys can help

697
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: me kind of with the infrastructure of it. Next thing,

698
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: you know, they passing out deals that they you understand me.

699
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: But now we know, we know what these words mean.

700
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: We know they operating the gray area. We know the

701
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: intentions of a contract. We know that I can't hire

702
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: the labels lawyer to look at the contract because their interest.

703
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: It's a conflict of interest. We understand these things now.

704
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 1: Back then we didn't understand it. Berman ended up getting

705
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: a bunch of money coming in, probably like I don't

706
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: have to get this to you. I don't owe this

707
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: to you. My understanding is I don't owe this to

708
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: you because they didn't owe this to me, so I

709
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: don't hiw owe you did. But then dude start saying,

710
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: but I made the beating it and it started from

711
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: a human standpoint makes sense because contractually he probably had

712
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: them whooped in a lot of them cases. But as

713
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: from a human standpoint, it started to be like, yo, yeah,

714
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: that is crazy, Like, let me get him straight. Bro,

715
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: I man, I'm loaded, I'm eating you know. So sometimes

716
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: you evolved with the information that's available. You know what

717
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying, jay Z and them, you know, did it

718
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: all these dudes starting these labels in the nineties, in

719
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: the early two thousands, they infrastructures nine times out of

720
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 1: ten was put in place by someone white or someone

721
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: that represented a label or had influence out of someone

722
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: out of one of them buildings. They didn't do it

723
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 1: like cqcing them. From my understanding, I may be wrong

724
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: whinning grab coach Kate, old veteran in the game, but

725
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: don't represent a building, but understand the game and has

726
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: all this information. Probably nun fumbled a few bags along

727
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: the way. So now I'm loaded with dudes and don'ts

728
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: And then you see that, and then you c QC

729
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: being a hustler. He is. You see Pee being a hustler.

730
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: He is, and he just he stand by them. And

731
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: now I'm learning a little bit and putting that street

732
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: spin on it. That understanding. You may not understand a

733
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 1: little bit. So NaN's good cop, bad cop in regards

734
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: to business. So we get to see both things clear.

735
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: Hopefully I always make good decisions. You know, risk you're not,

736
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: it's fine, But if it's a good risk, then let's

737
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: do it. You know what I'm saying, and just identifying

738
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: that it's half the battle. But shout out bird Man,

739
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: shout out Big Bank. They did a great interview. Let's

740
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: see what else we wanna talk about. I see money

741
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: bag yo, I see money bag Yo. Just had a birthday.

742
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: Shout out money bag yo. Memphis. You know what I mean, Tennessee.

743
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: You know the vibration, big podcast energy. He just had

744
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: a birthday. Man, I already bought him some laying twenty

745
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: eight acres, got in him game one point five. I mean,

746
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: he was getting some of the most extravagant gifts in

747
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: the world. All read them set the boss so high.

748
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: Girls don't even goals that no more. They let that

749
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: they leave that alone because dude's gonna start holding your accountable.

750
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: You get your little weight up. Yeah, you remember you

751
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: were saying goals when I was caring the family. Then

752
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: you made five hundred thousand this year my birthday coming

753
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: what we're doing? You know, I keep you draped up

754
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: and dripped out. Let's see what's going on. But she

755
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: seemed to always come through for him, you know. They

756
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: the situation is pretty cool in regards to what I'm

757
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 1: able to see um, But I got the thinking about

758
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: birthdays for men, and it's like there's a weird space

759
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: for men. Right, there's a place you go from not

760
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: getting nothing from your for your birthday to getting the

761
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: most extravagant gifts in the world. And that oftentimes depends

762
00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: on your financial space. Right when when the family it's

763
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: scratching in clawing, but you you kind of eyight, you

764
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: got a little money. Everybody says, well, I didn't know

765
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: what to get you. You got none. You get socks

766
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: and sweaters and scarves, boxers and things like that umbrollas

767
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: you know. But then something clicks after you become wealthy

768
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: to what them people are trying to gain favor. They

769
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: spending money on you, you know, and not not your

770
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: girlfriend or godda out and folks is rich. I'm talking back,

771
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: just regular individuals. If you if you move into a

772
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: place where you can take care of everything and don't

773
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: feel it, sometimes people in your family that you may

774
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: not have talked to or dealt with or start trying

775
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: to gain favor, which they don't. Bought me a fifty

776
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: five thousand dollar boat. They don't know men enough to

777
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: know I don't fish or go on the water. You

778
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, But they're trying to It's things

779
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: like that happening. It's a weird thing the birthday for

780
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: a dude, like for me, like I don't know. I mean,

781
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 1: I don't know. You just gotta you know, you gotta

782
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: figure out what it is I'm on at that time

783
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 1: because my style changes, my outlook changed. Sometimes I like hats,

784
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: others I don't. Sometimes I go urban next time I

785
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: want to go all designer. Sometimes I want to wear

786
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: my merch, other times I want I don't want to

787
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: wear my merch. Sometimes I'm when Jerry is sometime not

788
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: Sometime I'm Apple Watched, Sometime I'm rolet, you know what

789
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: I mean. Just be so much going on. Don't know

790
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: how you keep up with it. But when you get rich,

791
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: people are they gonna try. Oh boy, they're gonna try

792
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: to eat bits. You know what I'm saying. But it

793
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: was good to see, you know, dude get those kind

794
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: of gifts. Man. You know, um beautiful situation. Anthony Johnson Um.

795
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: A lot of y'all ma'am know him, may know him

796
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: from the movie Friday Hood Classic really not Hood classic

797
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: classic movie for the culture. When I say coach. I

798
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: mean American culture ran by hip Hop Friday Classic Moving

799
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: Anthony Johnson passed away. R Peter him condolences to the family.

800
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: I want to take this time to not disrespect anyone,

801
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: but also not withhold valuable information for the youngsters and

802
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: the babies that watching me and the people that come

803
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: to meet her, understand what it looked like to be

804
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: loved or disappointed or what have you. This man passed

805
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: away and there was an outcrown so social media in

806
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: which if you were looking, you would think all of

807
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: these people had loved for this guy. You would think

808
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: that right, because everybody posted, oh man, r p oh

809
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: my boy, oh man, this is so sad man legend,

810
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: this and that. But something about that to me when

811
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: I first saw it, I said, with damn, I know

812
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: who that is, right, staple in the culture. But the

813
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: ain't nobody there. I ain't saunt him in nothing. Ain't

814
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: nobody gave him no opportunities. Lately, we got a lot

815
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: going on in the culture with acting. Some people have.

816
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: Now if you have, I'm not talking to you, of course,

817
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 1: I'm talking to the people that the family came out

818
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: and said to them that yo, it's weird that we

819
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: got seven hundred in the account and it's this outpour

820
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: of quote unquote love. I feel for the people growing

821
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: up in this era, man, because it's so it's you

822
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: don't know what you're up, but you don't know what

823
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: you're dealing with. This thing is so you just have

824
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: no idea if you're dealing with people that really love you,

825
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: or somebody that won't cloud or the Instagram like or

826
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: comment or hope to get reposted by Shade Room for

827
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: breaking the news that Kelly Prices meant like, it's weird

828
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: what happens right now? Shot. I mean, I'm praying for

829
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: Kelly Price. I don't know what's happening with that. I'll

830
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: look into it and kind of report on it. But

831
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is the social media gives a glimpse

832
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: into a false reality. You got celebrities with millions of

833
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: dollars that we see go on stage and give money

834
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: to people just because. And we got a guy hit

835
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: that can't get a job to open up for somebody

836
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: that can't get a skit in a show, in a movie,

837
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: in a video once a month, he can't find a

838
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: podcast deal. Nowhere along the lines, an ad to keep

839
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: his leases bill paid, like what we're doing again, that's

840
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 1: the lack of information that they give us. And It's

841
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: people had to come out like, yo, we don't got

842
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 1: no money. We're starting to go funding. And you know

843
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: what I noticed right after It's people came out and

844
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: said that all the love disappear. The many of this

845
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 1: people came out and said, we don't got no money,

846
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: the love disappeal. I didn't see no more people posting.

847
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying people didn't reach out. Salute if

848
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: you did, you know in your heart. But I'm telling

849
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: you the culture has a problem with identifying love. We

850
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: we misrepresent what love is. We misrepresent what showing love is.

851
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: I always tell people, even when you're dealing with content

852
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: creation and music and business, there's a difference between a

853
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: fan and a customer. These are two different things. Sometimes

854
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: they resemble though they kind of look the same, but

855
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: the actions tell you the difference. The problem with social

856
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: media is we can't view the actions. We only can

857
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: go off what's being told to us. And the more

858
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: you hear something, the more you view something, the more

859
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: and hence that's why the mainstream media is able to

860
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: control the narrative on so many different levels because they

861
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: just beat a certain opinion into your head. And it's

862
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: the same with love. These people ain't showed them man

863
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 1: no love. He got seven hundred dollars in his bank account.

864
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: We ain't saying anybody go take him money. We deal

865
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: it with an industry. Can't nobody to found him know

866
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: where to sit there and make five thousand dollars a week.

867
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: Nobody we got all these shows, it's TVs and this

868
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 1: and that, And now that he's talented, he could offer

869
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: something just as not. The ride is worth something. And

870
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: if nobody posted it, then't cool. And I'm not saying

871
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: I didn't want nobody to post it. And I'm also

872
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: not saying you can't appreciate someone and what they gave

873
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 1: to the culture without working with them or without giving

874
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: them opportunity either. What I'm saying is we got to

875
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: tighten up with our approach to our business. There's missing

876
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: bags in this game. It's something that we ain't tightening up.

877
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: You understand me. When you look at the nfiling, you

878
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 1: look at a football team, it's a bunch of people

879
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: on the line that this play here. They may be

880
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: uneffective it don't mean nothing. Ball running totally different way.

881
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: But every time they get to got to come out

882
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: there and lining up, and they got a job and

883
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: the responsibility for when they do come that way. So

884
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is in our in our industry, in

885
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: our game, we gotta something with our infrastructure is not

886
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: allowing us to create create an offensive line in regards

887
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: to content or in regards to business. A lot of

888
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: times it's a one man show, one two, three man

889
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: show maybe, but we gotta find a way to, you know,

890
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: make Nike give us something to you know, we gotta

891
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: figure out a way to do that. Man, And I

892
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: just hate to see that that happened to that dude. Um,

893
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: shout out to his family, you know, shout out to

894
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: everybody that that enjoyed him on the movies. Man rist

895
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: in peace. But again, um, I just think in this game,

896
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: we got a problem with our did the fan love

897
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: and we must be at the forefront or at least

898
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: somebody is saying, Yo, don't think that Instagram likes his love.

899
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: Don't think them comments his love. Don't think people reposting

900
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: it is out that ain't none in regards to real life.

901
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: It can give you cultural equity, but he no longer

902
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: needs that. On his death date, nobody posted him in

903
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: When I needed y'all to posting it, I had a

904
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: little independent movie that the back end was contented on.

905
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: How many sold I was posting that fifteen times a day.

906
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: Nobody posted it. But on my death date, I'm every

907
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: well sickening. It's sad. Our culture is that way. We

908
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: got to create some avenue. Big loon said that, and

909
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: we'll figure that out at some point. I wanted to

910
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: spend some time speaking about boosting, giving boost his flowers

911
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: and observing again some of the things that's happening in

912
00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: the game. You know from some of the people in

913
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: the game. Right, so for those of you that may

914
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: not know, another topic of minds. About five weeks ago,

915
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: kind of spoke on boosting his position in the game

916
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: when the little noasaics stuff first happened. Right, I started

917
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: speaking on like, yo, you gotta look at Bootsey brand.

918
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: It's a different brand. It's a different thing. It's not

919
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: what you expect. It's not the rapper brand. He's a rapper,

920
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: but his brand is a different thing, right, it's a unique,

921
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: very unique brand Boosty has, and so I spoke on

922
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 1: the power that he you know, how he drives traffic

923
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: and customers in and out of all of these different lanes.

924
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: But rappers always the catalyst of you know, his star power.

925
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: So now you see Bootsey have a movie premiere and

926
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: you see fifty have the Stars premiere. This happened, I

927
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: believe on the same weekend. Um La Duvall went to

928
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: social media because him and Boost is tight, and I

929
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: respect Duvall. You know, La Duval is you know he

930
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: good with me, Boosted good with me, fitted straight with me.

931
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: Everybody good with me. Ain't nobody disrespecting me. But it's

932
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: important for me to just you know, talk about the

933
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: game from a standpoint of being being observed and just

934
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: breaking it down right. So La Duval came out and said, yo,

935
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: ain't number two industry dudes posted Boost stuff, but everybody

936
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: was at the Stars being meth thing as they should

937
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 1: have been. I just think they should have shared that

938
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: two at the supported Boost in the same way. Um

939
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: I would see if all of them when Boost was

940
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: locked up, but when he first got out, all of

941
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: them dudes are saying he raised me. I grew up

942
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: listening to Boost. That we believe boost it, boost it

943
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: is boosted that and when he dropped the movie, and

944
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: I also shout out to my home at Joe got it.

945
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: You know, um directed the movie. You know what I mean,

946
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: shout my first video, UM, shout out him. Shout out

947
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: core response. That hooked that up for me, man. And

948
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: that was a that was a unique situation back when

949
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: REP was in a weird place when a video would

950
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: cause you a lot of money. It's still the burial

951
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: entry was coming down, but it still was kind of

952
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: in a weird place, right. Um. So I knew Joe

953
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: got it back then when he when he had the

954
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: Blue the Blue Bins and the RV you know what

955
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, but he always hustled and did this thing,

956
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: and I knew he was gonna be something because he

957
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: already back then had his mind made up Loan, did

958
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: what we're doing, did what I'm doing this? It did

959
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. Bro. No, I remember when he first

960
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: got the rid and it got stole from him, like

961
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: all those things. The CD had to go through that

962
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: and then being at the forefront of a real production

963
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: like that is a beautiful thing. And we celebrate that,

964
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: and we also celebrate being men being able to get

965
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: some money with fifty that's big. That's big now, both

966
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: of that what I'm saying. So what they did was,

967
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: you know, little Duval is a troll. King in fifty

968
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: cent responded to that and basically said, they called me

969
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: mainstream because Duvall said, man, you know you should support

970
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: boost it like you support mainstream. You know, boost It

971
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: did raise a lot of them, dude, you know what

972
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean? So, um, it just be funny to see that,

973
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because if they push up

974
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: on him and boost, if they run into him, they're

975
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: gonna give him love, every single one of them. They're

976
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: gonna act like it's all good and they didn't take

977
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: them but the post. But that's what I tell y'all

978
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: about this game. It's a weird place. You thought high

979
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: school was pity, man, The industry way more pity than

980
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: high school. This little industry that y'all infatuated with. Man,

981
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: the folk pitted many folk like this shit like cafeteria, man, nigga.

982
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: It's weird. But you know, Boosted Hustle is a macaline

983
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: you know, Like I say, he goes in and out

984
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: the brands in and out of products and it's able

985
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: to actually make money in these different areas, which is

986
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. He laying a blueprint down for the

987
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: next rapper that has that kind of brand, but it

988
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: has to be that unique brand. Some of y'all rappers

989
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: can't get you out people to buy T shirts, let

990
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: alone way over here with some cologne a way over here,

991
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: selling a beard or you dig It's just you know

992
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Especially if you're trying to use that

993
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: same brand powder. There's a way to do that as well.

994
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: It's a science involved with that. So just to see

995
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: them hustle, man, it's a beautiful thing. I think. With

996
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: the South though, we always kind of get overlooked. You know,

997
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: the production that booster has isn't the same dollar amount,

998
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: isn't behind it. That's behind the stars product. Of course,

999
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: the BMV story is a big story as well. We

1000
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: respect that. That's real, that's that's South. That's us too,

1001
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: you understand me. But everybody was there. But then after

1002
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: that you start seeing a little few more people posting

1003
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: it and ship, you know what I'm saying, as as

1004
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: I would expect, you know, just because people watching. Then

1005
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta you know it just it be

1006
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: feeling funny. The industry just a funny place, you know

1007
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: what I mean. And like I say, even when you

1008
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: talk about the industry and when you talk about your brand,

1009
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: you gotta know what your brand represents and where it

1010
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: stands that even with NBA Young Boy, we're talking about

1011
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: the number one search artists on YouTube for three years

1012
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: in a row, the number one search artists that ain't

1013
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: wrap artists. I'm saying, I'm talking Michael Jackson, I'm talking

1014
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: anybody you can think that people putting I ain't in

1015
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: on YouTube. NBA Young Boy has been number one for

1016
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: the last three years. Right with that being said, I

1017
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: need you to understand that YouTube won't even promote his album.

1018
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: They won't even get behind him in any way. Right,

1019
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: It's it's you got to really understand the gravity of that.

1020
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: A company that I've been at the forefront of driving

1021
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: traffic for for the last three years. I've been at

1022
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: the top of the list in regards to engagement period

1023
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: amongst white, Asian, mixed, whoever kind of artists you want

1024
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: to think. And then when I go to jail and

1025
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: I drop an album, they can't even push it up

1026
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: on the top or give me no kind of promo

1027
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: or no kind of extra push. Okay, so you maybe

1028
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: don't understand that. You maybe don't understand why they do that.

1029
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: It's like this, It's like it's like for Coca Cola

1030
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: or not to promote Sprite. Right. You see the amount

1031
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: of money Sprite makes for the brand. Yea, Coca Cola

1032
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: is the brand, right, that's that's the parent company. But

1033
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: Sprite is his own thing and it generates revenue. So

1034
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: we gotta put some attention on Sprite over there will

1035
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: be a fool not to right. So it's I don't

1036
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: know why would it Why would you think that it's

1037
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: okay to have this guy be at the forefront of

1038
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: engagement on your platform. The music is good, you don't

1039
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: take that down. You get the ass forward, you get

1040
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: the traffic forward. But then when when he needs the

1041
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: promo spot of something, you don't get nothing. This is

1042
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: the same fight Joe Buttons was having. That's why I

1043
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: don't know why Joe Budden didn't speak on it or

1044
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: doesn't speak on this type of thing with this NBA

1045
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: young boy in his YouTube fight, because he was having

1046
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: that ad fight. He was having that fight where It's like, Yo,

1047
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: why y'all won't let me participate in what's happening on

1048
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: the other side when I've been at the forefront of

1049
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: driving this level of engagement to your platform. It doesn't

1050
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: I don't understand what's the difference between me and call

1051
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: her Daddy, or the difference between me and justin beevil rights.

1052
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: It's a situation that you got to examine, but understand

1053
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: the business. It's weird. It ain't posed to happen. It's unusual.

1054
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: I won't say it's weird because weird wouldn't mean that

1055
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen, and I think it happens more often

1056
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: than we would imagine, Right, So I'm gonna say it's unusual,

1057
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: meaning that it's unusual behavior. It don't make sense. It's like, Yo,

1058
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: what is that? That's weird? That's that's kind of like,

1059
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: you know, that's off course, that's that doesn't make logical sense.

1060
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: You know, Um, unusual for that circumstance. Right to be

1061
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: in that situation and go that way, it's dumb. I

1062
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: don't get how did it happen? But um, but we

1063
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: see we see that, you know. But NBA young boy

1064
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: brand again, he got one of the biggest brands. All

1065
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: the kids want to look like him. Hey man, they

1066
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: got a little dude going viral right now that he

1067
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: doesn't made his mouth like him, he got to have

1068
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: It's hey, yo, bro, it's wild. And I think as

1069
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: a kid, you don't know like or I don't know,

1070
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: maybe I'm out of touch because my mind would tell me,

1071
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: why would this girl want to be with me if

1072
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: I want to be somebody else, like I be thinking

1073
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: people want to see original in you, and I'd be

1074
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: thinking people want to see your style and who you is.

1075
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying because for me, and that's

1076
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: why I was telling my sons, it's like, yo, don't

1077
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 1: not try to be like nobody, because you're gonna look

1078
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: back on it when you get seventeen eighteen. Like yo,

1079
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: I was running around trying to be such and such

1080
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: instead of finding your own identity and building on that

1081
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: at a young age. Even if you look corn it

1082
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: right now, you'll figure it out because don't nobody. None

1083
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: of these little dudes ain't talking about none. So just

1084
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: find your way. But don't try to copy this person,

1085
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: because don't do that. It just don't. Man, I'm talking

1086
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: about this little boy. If that were my son, I'll

1087
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: probably be mad. That's how close he looked to mbay

1088
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: young boy. If that was my little boy, I might

1089
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: be upset. Bro. You don't need to be trying to

1090
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: look like nobody. Bro. That ain't what we do. Bro.

1091
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: We don't go around looking like trying to immolate the man.

1092
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: Come home, man, we ain't doing that. You gotta be you, bro.

1093
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm talking about it. And

1094
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: but you know, like I say, his fan base, man,

1095
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: he got a different kind of fan than youngsters love him.

1096
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: That's why they're on YouTube. His custom is on YouTube

1097
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: because it's a free platform. Everybody has access to it,

1098
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: even the kids on their mother's phone. On certain phone,

1099
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: a child to come and ask you for your phone.

1100
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: Next thing you know, they're in the corner done google

1101
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: NBA Young Boy on YouTube or looking at ynw Medlet

1102
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: one of these type little artists like that on your phone. Like,

1103
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: but they're running them numbers up. They're getting on the xbox,

1104
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: they're getting on this playing it in the background, you know.

1105
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: So they running the numbers up and NBA Young Boy

1106
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: got them. But it's pivot time for him and I

1107
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: think he'll take it. He'll take advantage of that. You

1108
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, just got his deal. You know,

1109
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: I think he gonna come out of jail and do

1110
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: what it is he needs to do. I want to

1111
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: talk about, Um, I've heard a couple of people say

1112
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: some things about Drake, his position and where he currently sits.

1113
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: We see, we see him and Jake Cole, Um, Joe

1114
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: Budden and specific spoke about the j Cole pipe down thing,

1115
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: and I want to spend a little bit of time

1116
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: on that, just to kind of clarify my stands in

1117
01:06:55,800 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: my position in regards to Drake, his trajectory and his career. UM,

1118
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: A lot of people forget where you started from. A

1119
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: lot of people forget um that that them too disregarded

1120
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: you and overlooked you and never thought you would be

1121
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: a part of this whole thing of virus. Right. So

1122
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: we'll we'll look into that a little further. But let's um,

1123
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: let's listen to what Joe I'm saying. And in this

1124
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: group of cars, for me, some people say that I'm

1125
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: running third. They threw the prinze in me behind Drake

1126
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: and Dot. Yeah, them niggas a superstars to me. Maybe

1127
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: deep down, I'm afraid of my luminosity. So when you

1128
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: see me on red carpets, I'm moving outquately posing are nervous,

1129
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: afraid of the judgment and the thought of showing too

1130
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: much in my day is repugnant. I'll be keeping my

1131
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: kids away from the gates of the public because he

1132
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: stays to feel like, hey, this they make the resubject

1133
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: like a shape of the aster, violate and I busted.

1134
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: I don't play when they come to family. That's one thing.

1135
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kind of break this down with them. Right then.

1136
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: We gotta start the do this, And I want to

1137
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: want to let y'all know the importance of what I'm doing.

1138
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: The importance of what I'm doing is to show um

1139
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 1: mainstream media the other side, the other perspective, the flip

1140
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: side of the coin um stats that they don't consider, position,

1141
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 1: that they don't consider, grind that they don't consider right.

1142
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: So that's that's my position in the game, right, not

1143
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: only to speak for the South the North to culture,

1144
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: but just to make sure the South is represented in

1145
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: a real way, not not from a standpoint of hey,

1146
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: just because it's from the South, it's the better thing

1147
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: but I think the problem because we all black. So

1148
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: I want to I want to approach it with love

1149
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: because I want to. I want to feel like it's

1150
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: a misunderstanding and to it's just a little bit more

1151
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: clear because I got enough game to know when it's

1152
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: a misunderstanding and when it ain't. But at this time,

1153
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to never gain around it, right. So, um,

1154
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: we want to approach it with love, But we want

1155
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: to make sure the South is now represented in conversations

1156
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: in chick cutting, specifically in chick cutting from a media standpoint,

1157
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: we want to make sure the South is represented. Man,

1158
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 1: not everybody down here dumb or slow or don't know

1159
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: what's going on with y'all know that y'all dealing with us.

1160
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 1: Y'all dealing with Pete bird Man, q QC. Y'all dealt

1161
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: with JD, tip Out Cash, y'all dealt with pim C,

1162
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: J Prince, Tony Draper. You know you gotta deal with us.

1163
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. But but let's continue. I'm

1164
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 1: pissing the celebrity t God with me on this record.

1165
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: This is heaven ZP the Tell's Official, the best Nigga Present.

1166
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: It just failed to hit you. You couldn't tell because

1167
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: you fail for the bells and whistles. And it's every y'all.

1168
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: Don't it sell or from the field with young girls

1169
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: talk crown it sale, it's rang the person go to Yale.

1170
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: But every nigga that I know dunk gonna tell hell

1171
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 1: at least once proven we the once that's number two,

1172
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: at least until further notice. Man, it's gracious turn down

1173
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 1: that nigga lost his fucking month. First of all, Yeah,

1174
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: we need a wellness check on Jermain. Has anyone seen him?

1175
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: Heard from him being into his house? He burnt up

1176
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: somewhere on fire. He doesn't sound well, sound fine to me? Wrong?

1177
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 1: What that hell is? What the hell is his issue?

1178
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: See now, if this word twenty seventeen, eighteen, twenty nineteen,

1179
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 1: maybe even twenty twenty, I swear I would come in

1180
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 1: here and perpetuate a beef, even if it didn't exist

1181
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: even three weeks ago, even if it didn't months ago,

1182
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: do that anymore. I don't do that anymore. I mean

1183
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: it's that growth all. All of these rappers are liars.

1184
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 1: I'd be dead ass right about every one of them.

1185
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 1: And then they come out and fucking tell me behind

1186
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: the scenes that I'm right. But I disagree with that,

1187
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why. I don't think that that

1188
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: Cole mon't beef, even though I did see what he

1189
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: put the heads up. You know, Um, I think Cole

1190
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: and Drake relationship has always been kind of a slippery thing.

1191
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: I think that relationship has always been a kind of

1192
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: slippery situation. You know. When if you remember when Drake

1193
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 1: first came in, they had the situation with um, what

1194
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: was that sound? Him and Cole was going at each other.

1195
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: Then they did that in the morning with each other

1196
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: and then we kind of said, okay, so they is

1197
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: straight back then. I think Drake didn't didn't really know

1198
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: his way with the music. He knew he had something,

1199
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: but he wasn't as polished and Cole at that time

1200
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: was just a little more polished in his pocket then him.

1201
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: You know, the way he rumbles with the words and

1202
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 1: the breakdowns, the syllables and things. He was he could

1203
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: do that with ease. Drake was still trying to figure

1204
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: out the tone to sing in, how to approach these

1205
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: things right. So Drake was kind of in a different

1206
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 1: situation and it appeared that Cole was smashing, and then

1207
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: it was rumblings behind the scenes that the big dolls

1208
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 1: don't want Drake to go to the next level. They're

1209
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: trying to smush him. But Drake still got on. But

1210
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 1: let's listen to a little more. So if they're never

1211
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: gonna cop to it, then I just looked like the

1212
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: bad guy, Like I looked horrible in that old nicky

1213
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: cardy thing, even if I agreed with what I was saying,

1214
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: just looked. There were some more rappers that just blamed

1215
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: me for their beef. Like then that's what happens when

1216
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: the rappers make up. They blamed me for perpetuating the beef.

1217
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, come on, let's not fair you guys.

1218
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna do that here, but I could

1219
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 1: mean it's in there. I'm about to say it right there,

1220
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: and you won't do It's Joe sorry, he put it

1221
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: by the rim Yo fam. In my day, let me

1222
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: tell you about two thousand, you could not take an

1223
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 1: album cut instrumental from somebody's album that dropped one or

1224
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: two weeks ago that they sung on and you flame

1225
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: it up like this and it go totally just like

1226
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 1: another day and that ladies, and gentlemen, is why you

1227
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: dealt with someone that only one song really went to

1228
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 1: the next level. Respectfully, Joe's a great communicator. I think

1229
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: he's even a good rapper. But you're dealing with You're

1230
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: dealing with a syndrome. You're dealing with a syndrome up there. Man,

1231
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what that's about. That divide um now

1232
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: if it's if it's New York against the rest of

1233
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 1: the world, then it appears to be that they back then,

1234
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: they used to kind of form together like votron. But

1235
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 1: then when you got intricate and broke it all the

1236
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 1: way down somewhere down in the DNA is fabulous. Being

1237
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: my homeboy. Can't take my beat and do a record

1238
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 1: or do a freestyle loaning without me taking that away

1239
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: And see, I get I get the competitive space, But

1240
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 1: for me, I don't. I don't um if I think

1241
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: as an issue, I want to approach the issue. Then

1242
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,560
Speaker 1: when when you say competitive weddative, I don't see that

1243
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 1: it's competitive weddative if you want to do some rapping,

1244
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: save my name if I'm on that type time. But

1245
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 1: just taking a beat, doing a freestyle, talking to your

1246
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: people is again I think It has more to do

1247
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: with the way that these guys came up in their view,

1248
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: the way they viewed this thing. I think some people

1249
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:06,560
Speaker 1: view this hip hop culture more so as what it

1250
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: originated from, and they're fell into acknowledge the way that

1251
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: it has evolved. It used to be just on the corner,

1252
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 1: me against you one on one. It's still competitive, but

1253
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: the competitive space is a different space. You see it,

1254
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: ain't it ain't you know me? And future is cool

1255
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 1: and he drop a Now when you go to doing

1256
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 1: stuff like what Thug and Wayne was doing, Now that's

1257
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: somebody that won't smoke. My album is Carter five, yours

1258
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: is Barter five or Bar to six or whatever like.

1259
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: That's somebody that's trying to tell you I won't smoke

1260
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:48,560
Speaker 1: competitive smoke with this, you understand me. But somebody just

1261
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 1: taking the beat again. You gotta know the DNA of

1262
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: the people you're talking to and dealing with. Some of

1263
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: these boys is dealing with a just a low vibration

1264
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: in regards to each one. Teach one. They don't hold that.

1265
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Joe Budden has pigeonholed his brand. Man,

1266
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: He has literally pigeonholed his brand. Now. I think he's

1267
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: talented enough to still operate in that space, but he

1268
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: pigeonholed his brand. I see him at some point making

1269
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: that right with them boys and bringing them back, cutting

1270
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: them a chick, getting that under the bridge, and then

1271
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: rejuvenate that part. Because right now his band, his brand

1272
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: is pigeonhole. They won't call him for versus he can't.

1273
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 1: They're not gonna send Drake through there to sit down

1274
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: that not like you only got what Joe can give

1275
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 1: you over there. And I think that was a mistake.

1276
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: I think it happened without him knowing it because it

1277
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: wasn't that way a year ago, two years ago, eighteen

1278
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 1: months ago. It wasn't that way. His brand has changed

1279
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: into something that he has literally pigeonholed himself into only

1280
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: being able to provide that commentary that people go to

1281
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:02,560
Speaker 1: him for. Now. You gotta be able to cross collaborate,

1282
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 1: collaborate with other brands, bro, That's the only way this works.

1283
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 1: If did he never win in If, If if did

1284
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: he never win in Holiday, whatever liquor company he started with,

1285
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: or if Jay never like it's rough like that, you

1286
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: can do it that way. It's just a different fight

1287
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 1: and for me, you had such a head start, meaning

1288
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 1: Joe Budden podcast as the brand has such a head

1289
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 1: start on the market. To place yourself back in that

1290
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 1: race was man, man, man, man. That was crazy. But

1291
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: let's listen to a little more. Man. We'll get We'll

1292
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: get into it a little more. It's not possible. That

1293
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 1: could not happy. I don't care what I'm saying, telling

1294
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: me what he posted. You're comparing how people reacted that.

1295
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: Now I would post it to back, but it would

1296
01:17:55,080 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 1: be something to follow that though now I'm I'm aware

1297
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: that it's Uncle Joe time. I might be disconnected from

1298
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:05,560
Speaker 1: how they how they received these things today today it

1299
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: might be adoration. You're not disconnected with how they receive

1300
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 1: or you're disconnected in the issue that caused New York

1301
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: to have to pass the ball because the culture is

1302
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 1: gonna continue to move now. New Yorker never fully passed

1303
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 1: the ball because it's New York. But New York was

1304
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 1: in control of music. But this spirit right here lends

1305
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 1: itself to some of the failures that you see when

1306
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: you see fifty cent blow up like that, and nobody

1307
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: in New York can work with him. He's the hottest

1308
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 1: thing going New York is split down the middle. Salm

1309
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: is trying to help rejuvenate job Somem is trying to

1310
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: act like them. In fifty is straight because he's popping

1311
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: corn right now, and others is acting like they don't

1312
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: see the beat, like it just you feel me. But

1313
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 1: but but take that same scenario. Look down in future

1314
01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: in Alanna. You see him still do songs with Guch,

1315
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 1: You still do songs with Thug, still do records with

1316
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: Drake still Like it's a different atmosphere, it's a different spirit.

1317
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: The coach has evolved. It might be these people are flattered,

1318
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: like a compliment to that, right, I think I think

1319
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 1: it's contention upon a relationship. It's like, you put your

1320
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 1: shit out right. Fab calls you and says, Yo, I

1321
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 1: want to get on that beat. I'm gonna kill it.

1322
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 1: You're not gonna take it, no type away because Fab

1323
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: is your family. No, that's not No, that's not true.

1324
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: As close as Fab and I were, I think him

1325
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: and I knew that there were certain lines that we

1326
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 1: should stay clear of, even though he called you first.

1327
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: But I think that I think that was already spoke

1328
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 1: about that. Why is it so important for you to

1329
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 1: prove you're better than me with words. I don't understand

1330
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: that the goal is the money Joe Budden is speaking from. You.

1331
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: Gotta really understand what was going on with Joe Budden

1332
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 1: with that mindset. And I like to examine people, you know,

1333
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: I take folks and make them case studies of mind

1334
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 1: because I think all great men studied great men and

1335
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 1: great books and great literature and in history. These are

1336
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: my beliefs. This is my understanding. Right So when I

1337
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 1: when I look at Dude, I say to myself in

1338
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: that situation right there, saying Fab who at that time

1339
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 1: would have been the bigger artists, if not by much.

1340
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 1: Let's say some people in two oh foh five would

1341
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 1: say Joe and Fab was kind of close, closer than

1342
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 1: we view them now. In regards to rapping, let's just

1343
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: say that the idea that that's your mindset, you're broke.

1344
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: How can you not have any money in a business?

1345
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 1: Would rapping gets you money? Not want to rap with

1346
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: the people that's getting money in the rap business, but

1347
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 1: want to compete with them. Me against you, me against you,

1348
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 1: me against you. It's weird. It's me against the ops.

1349
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 1: The ops is to hate us. The ops is to

1350
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: hate us and then this business there's no permanent enemies

1351
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 1: or friends. So I don't even look at you little

1352
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 1: dudes like nothing to somebody get wrong and then we

1353
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 1: had to we had to bump into each other, you

1354
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But anything other than that, there's

1355
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 1: no permanent enemies in this business. I don't know these

1356
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: dudes like that. But when we talk about opportunities in

1357
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 1: how to make money, and I pitgeon hole myself. He

1358
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: has this problem pitgeon hole itself. Why wouldn't I say,

1359
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: yo me and failed on this? That's my guy. It

1360
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: don't make sense future respect to him and I had

1361
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: like between him and I for reasons between him and I. Right,

1362
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 1: you know what it might be though? It might be

1363
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 1: because a lot of people die in there. If they

1364
01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: didn't make it where they wanted to go, as far

1365
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 1: rappers concerned, then they want to lean on the person

1366
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 1: that went a little further than them and act like

1367
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 1: it was always competition with them, because I don't know

1368
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 1: if I see didding them do that? Jay and them

1369
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 1: they New York too. It's the media guys. And I

1370
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 1: think it's because a lot of the media guys in

1371
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 1: New York used to be rappers. Exclude Nori nor don't

1372
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 1: do it either, for real. I'm not sure. I gotta.

1373
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that because I don't know,

1374
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: but it just seems like, you know, it's a certain

1375
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, dog, it's weird, bro. But

1376
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,560
Speaker 1: like I said, but again, let me reiterate that it

1377
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: feels like that they want to put their self in

1378
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 1: competition with the because you never him talk about battling

1379
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 1: or people that's under them that tried to battle them.

1380
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,640
Speaker 1: It's always, oh yeah, Drake was talking to me on this,

1381
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,600
Speaker 1: so Jay was this, and I and I would have

1382
01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 1: smoked his boots. And I won't just make better records

1383
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 1: than dudes. If it's like that, get on the record,

1384
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 1: make it a royal rumble on this record. Let's see

1385
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 1: who But what I'm gonna do sit here and out

1386
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: bar you in a business where we got an opportunity

1387
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:18,679
Speaker 1: to make money, doing so makes no sense, right, I'm

1388
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 1: not starting this shit. They friends, everything is coomed by y'all. Peace,

1389
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 1: lovey dovey. I'm not starting nothing. But let me tell

1390
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 1: you what else couldn't happen back in my dad If

1391
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 1: you took my beat and rapped on it and said

1392
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: my name anywhere in there. But he was being nice

1393
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 1: anywhere next sentences in any manner, in any manner, because yes,

1394
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 1: you were being nice. You said my name, and then

1395
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: I kept on walking to school, and seven blocks down

1396
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: the road, you start talking about rappers that's only successful

1397
01:23:55,200 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 1: from bells and whistles and gimmicks. That's not applied and

1398
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:15,799
Speaker 1: true thousand and four. So again by six seven, boy buddy,

1399
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 1: oh my bad. So again you're dealing with someone that's

1400
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: saying that. Jake Cole, when he referenced which was a

1401
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 1: dope ball, said, you're looking at the greatest. You couldn't

1402
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 1: tell because you fail for the bells and whistles, meaning

1403
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 1: all the label attics, the promotion to this to that,

1404
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 1: the third that I you fail for that, and it

1405
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: made you view them like they better than me, the

1406
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:45,759
Speaker 1: jeery to this to that right, So in Joe Button Mine,

1407
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 1: j Cole is applying that to Drake. In my mind,

1408
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 1: I say, we can't be telling about the same bells

1409
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 1: and whistles that I worked hard for it from Drake.

1410
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: We telling about me, Drake, the one, the light skinned Canadian.

1411
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 1: This scene when everybody's rapping, then, ain't got no muscles,

1412
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: no hood ties, no gang banging, no tattoos. No, you're

1413
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 1: talking about the same You mind everything all that I

1414
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 1: ever wanted, best I ever. Hey, you're talking about I

1415
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: didn't fight for that. Those bells and whistles, them records.

1416
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 1: There was no space for those records. When I come

1417
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,839
Speaker 1: out and you're saying that that's the bells and whistles.

1418
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: You want me to believe Jay Cole is talking about dude,

1419
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: had the people forget Bro? Drake had to fight through

1420
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,759
Speaker 1: all kind of You remember r I p DM mix.

1421
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: You remember what they used to say about Drake. You

1422
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 1: remember what a lot of people he's corny, he's did

1423
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: Oh I remember when Drake first dropped that album right

1424
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: with the he had them think the baseball bats and

1425
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 1: the all black. I think he said something like catch

1426
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: your body or something like that. People going crazy, Oh

1427
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 1: my god, you telling about catching the body. Nobody believes

1428
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 1: you this and that he's a you know, Canadian, light

1429
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:16,600
Speaker 1: skinned Canadian that sings and was on Nickelodeon in the

1430
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 1: rap game. And you won't you saying that. See, some

1431
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 1: people like Joe would take that argument and say what

1432
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: that means he was industry or he had a better chance. No,

1433
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: not the route he took. He had a better chance

1434
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: with the Justin Bieber route, I give you that. But

1435
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: Drake had to come through the trenches. He had to

1436
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: walk alongside Jay Prince and Birdman in Wayne and this

1437
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 1: and that and the third. So he didn't come through

1438
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 1: the game through the industry doors like that. He come

1439
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: through the back door. He had to walk amongst us

1440
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 1: with the guns and the knives and the tattoos and

1441
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 1: the dope selling stories and the attempted murders on the

1442
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 1: Drake had to walk through that line to get where

1443
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 1: he was going. And we know when we in the hood,

1444
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 1: we know what we do to people that we think, uh,

1445
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: don't necessarily got that on him, don't got that stinch

1446
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 1: on him that we got on us from the street.

1447
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 1: So that dude had to fight for that. And now

1448
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: he had certain co signs that made certain things easier.

1449
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 1: But from a critic standpoint, they never had to deal

1450
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 1: with Jay Prince, The critics never had to deal with

1451
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 1: bird Man, Wayne, and none of them people that co

1452
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 1: signed him. The critics were able to form their own opinion.

1453
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: That's why you start to hear the rumblers of oh

1454
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 1: he's not come on, man, he's not tough like that.

1455
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 1: What do you mean, catch your body? You know, Oh man,

1456
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 1: get out of here with all of that. You're the

1457
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 1: singing Canadian man. Watch out right, and you see pushing

1458
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 1: t try to hammer it home when he when he

1459
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:52,719
Speaker 1: called itself exposing him. Right, So everybody makes good music

1460
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 1: for people to say and now have the conversation the

1461
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 1: argument with anyone. For people to say Drake didn't have

1462
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: to fight to get it where he was, they're wrong.

1463
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 1: Then he got to a certain level and start lapping

1464
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: the rappers he came in with, and start his trajectory

1465
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: was saying, I'm catching up with the ghosts. So then

1466
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: as an urban legend that says that the ghosts tried

1467
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 1: to start Oh no no no, no, no no no,

1468
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 1: he can't get up here that quick took us twenty years.

1469
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 1: So he also had to go through that. Then he

1470
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 1: go before that through the meek Meal thing. They saying

1471
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 1: that part of the meek Meal thing spins off of that, right,

1472
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, it's these the bells and wishes you

1473
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 1: talking about. People only deal with Drake because they can't

1474
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 1: get a deal without Drake, you understand, But let Drake

1475
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 1: go to where Soldier Boy is. Right now, far as

1476
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 1: brand is concerned, they would ignore Drake. I'm saying if

1477
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 1: the music wasn't this, But the music won't allow the

1478
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 1: brand to fall. Do you understand? So they deal with

1479
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 1: Drake because they can't deal without Drake. Drake influences these

1480
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: dudes first week sales. If you got a Drake song

1481
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 1: on the album, the album looks different in them. In

1482
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: the buildings on the white board, it looks different when

1483
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 1: we're able to say Drake's on the album. It's a

1484
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 1: different conversation in those buildings. But the bells and whistles

1485
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: that people tend to talk about for me, and I

1486
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 1: want to identify what that means to me so people

1487
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: can't misrepresent what I'm saying. When someone said something about

1488
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:37,600
Speaker 1: bells and whistles in regards to a rapper or entertainer

1489
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 1: entertainer podcast, to anyone in that space, what I take

1490
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: that to mean is some sort of industry co sign,

1491
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,720
Speaker 1: almost like an industry plant, Like you've came in the game,

1492
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 1: positioned in this place, no matter what, talent didn't matter,

1493
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 1: really numbers didn't matter. Everything that matters for me didn't

1494
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: matter for you to get in your position because you

1495
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 1: had ties. And whether that that ain't nobody fault because

1496
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 1: I playing the time, my people in, I playing the time,

1497
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 1: my kids in, I playing the time, my my my people,

1498
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 1: kids in, and people who in this game somewhere my

1499
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 1: net work. Right, if you're in the football I need

1500
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: to highlight cedrigellis, Hey, come talk to such and such man,

1501
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 1: you think you can what camps y'all got going on?

1502
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 1: Let us you did what I'm saying. So that's part

1503
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 1: of my mindset. So I don't fault anyone for me.

1504
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 1: And co signed or signed then right, a lot of

1505
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 1: y'all getting signed. Then somebody else getting into the computer

1506
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 1: and putting their password, and in the computer is the game.

1507
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 1: Somebody getting to the game and it's a lockscreen. They're

1508
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 1: coming up your homeboard and they putting their password and

1509
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 1: in and then you in. Now you can just float

1510
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 1: around and here off they co signing, because everybody paying.

1511
01:30:57,439 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 1: Once you get past a certain wall, it's a page

1512
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 1: game from then on. Now, how you being paid? Now

1513
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:06,640
Speaker 1: we can start to talk about negotiations and leverage and

1514
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 1: content and you know, culture equity and things like that.

1515
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 1: You know, But um, I would take that to mean

1516
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:20,600
Speaker 1: you came in the game with some kind of understanding

1517
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 1: that no matter what happens with you, we're gonna make

1518
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 1: you famous. I don't think he came in with that.

1519
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:32,639
Speaker 1: I think he came in on a we think your

1520
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:36,599
Speaker 1: talented will see what happens. They had Wayne at that time, Bro,

1521
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:40,799
Speaker 1: Wayne was on fire and we're talking bells and whistle

1522
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:42,679
Speaker 1: was from a dude. They had to fight from behind

1523
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 1: little Wayne. Y'all gotta put some respect on the perspective

1524
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 1: of the South. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, y'all don't

1525
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:53,560
Speaker 1: consider Wayne. So when turned y'all act like Drake just

1526
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: popped out of nowhere, That's what I'm trying to say.

1527
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 1: They don't consider this whole thing. The norm away things happen. Right,

1528
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 1: If you don't consider bird Man and what he brought

1529
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:08,599
Speaker 1: to the game, then you won't consider Wayne, the hot boys,

1530
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 1: cash money, you and the l V master p y'all.

1531
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 1: Let you just erase all of that. But when you

1532
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:19,679
Speaker 1: got somebody like me talking and I and I consider

1533
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 1: what bird Man done, then I said, oh, but you

1534
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 1: gotta remember Drake, and look how Drake had to come

1535
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 1: through behind little Wayne. This was happening and they were

1536
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 1: selling that. Right, y'all, don't never hit nobody else in

1537
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 1: the game talk like that. That perspective is missing, and

1538
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 1: that's what I brain. But I just want y'all to

1539
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:39,559
Speaker 1: know that it's counterproductive home. All the little niggas up

1540
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 1: nor listening to me, Yo, bro get with your people

1541
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 1: and make something happen. If they don't find they're doing

1542
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 1: something that don't spread the brand, then that's unreasonable. But

1543
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if we both is moving and grooving, it

1544
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 1: ain't no, it ain't no rain, no problems, ain't no

1545
01:32:54,880 --> 01:33:00,120
Speaker 1: problems on that. I wouldn't took that obo jack to

1546
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 1: the mirror studio. That couldn't happen. But today, again I'm disconfferent.

1547
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: It's different different today, but but but but it's different

1548
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 1: in society. Yeah, I don't know if it's different internally

1549
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,600
Speaker 1: in the MC's, which is why I always come in

1550
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: here sounding like a nutcase talking from MC brain cold.

1551
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 1: I don't think it's applicable though, Like so if you

1552
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 1: if you Drake listening to this, right, if it don't apply,

1553
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 1: you let it fly. So I don't think Drake thinks

1554
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:35,720
Speaker 1: he's famous as a result of gimmicks, so you're not

1555
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 1: even thinking he talking to you. But if you're Drake

1556
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 1: and you know every no, I'm not gonna say everybody.

1557
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 1: A lot of people say you're here from the because

1558
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 1: of the bells and whistles. You hear this a lot.

1559
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,680
Speaker 1: But if you might not think it apply, I don't

1560
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 1: think hear it enough. I don't know he would think

1561
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:56,680
Speaker 1: that cold thinks that what I'm saying. I don't think

1562
01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:58,600
Speaker 1: you would think you would think that you're right, Like

1563
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 1: that's my man, do you know? I give But these

1564
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,560
Speaker 1: guys be aware, so he can know that that's what

1565
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 1: they're saying. And now it looked like you saying, yeah,

1566
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 1: I see them saying I don't have to believe that.

1567
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 1: I think that just goes their personal relations I think

1568
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 1: it goes to their plug. Just wanted to give y'all

1569
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:20,639
Speaker 1: another glimpse into that. Man. Like I say, very interesting,

1570
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 1: just to see how you know, certain people navigate through

1571
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 1: just interactions with other people that can may or may

1572
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 1: not benefit of shit light on them in a good way.

1573
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: I just find it really interesting when you get down

1574
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 1: to the intricate details of how people really look at

1575
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,600
Speaker 1: people that they even consider friends and people they know,

1576
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 1: even from the same lineage, the same line like what

1577
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 1: y'all ain't gonna tell them that that's not that ain't cool.

1578
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 1: It's like me saying, yo, I bring a cake in here,

1579
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 1: my cousin them in here. They can't get none. It's like, naw, bro,

1580
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: we can't do that to each other. Bro, that's a

1581
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:07,440
Speaker 1: weird I get it. Everybody's competitive. Nobody's more competitive than me, nobody,

1582
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:11,760
Speaker 1: Let me be clear with that, nobody. But I know

1583
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 1: how to control my emotions, right. So, however, I'm feeling

1584
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 1: internal about a man, I'm gonna get to it, he think,

1585
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 1: he hart Man, I'm gonna make this happen. That's an

1586
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 1: internal thing. I can't wear that. You know, some people

1587
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 1: are struggling with what keeps them ticking. I understand that,

1588
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 1: but you can't wear that outwardly because it may be

1589
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 1: received like I'm receiving it and ain't cool. Let's talk

1590
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 1: about the the Karen Civil and enjoy the Lucas situation. Right.

1591
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna speak about it simply because for some

1592
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:53,759
Speaker 1: reason I don't know Karen Civil you know what I'm saying.

1593
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 1: I want to put that disclaim out there. I don't

1594
01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 1: know Karen civil, but I kind of get SUSI vives

1595
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:03,640
Speaker 1: from them. You know, I know of some of her

1596
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 1: working and some of the things she's done, um, just

1597
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 1: some about I know Jason Lee likes to say, likes

1598
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 1: to says that she has disability to pull a wall

1599
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 1: over people lives, and not that she's tried to with me.

1600
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 1: It's just that her brand, I guess because I don't

1601
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 1: know her personally, but I just kind of get sister

1602
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 1: vibes from her. So when when you know in particular

1603
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 1: these kind of things happened, I kind of try to

1604
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:33,679
Speaker 1: stay away from them. When when I kind of view

1605
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 1: people in a certain way until I get my own

1606
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 1: interactions with them, some people I don't care to have

1607
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:42,440
Speaker 1: interactions with, So I approach you with that level of understanding.

1608
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 1: Also with Jason Lee, I got a lot of respect

1609
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 1: for his um business acumen and the way that he

1610
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 1: navigates around this space as well. You know, he's been

1611
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 1: able to put itself in a situation to to become

1612
01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 1: a winner, you know, and winning at a game that

1613
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 1: a lot of us views as fleeting, you know, and

1614
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 1: win for a long time in the media space. He says,

1615
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 1: the experiences being blackballed and things like that, and I

1616
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 1: understand all of those things, and that's why I put

1617
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 1: it on me to say, Loon. That's why I put

1618
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 1: it on me to say, Loon, you got to talk

1619
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 1: about this, you know, because Karen Civil for those you

1620
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 1: don't know, she's like a a publicist, slash marketing specialist, podcaster,

1621
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 1: brand ambassador just kind of operates in that space. That

1622
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 1: space is a very effective space, but it's it's worser

1623
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 1: than any That may be the worst space in the

1624
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 1: world to operate in in regards to high risk, because

1625
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 1: you can bump into the right person rob shoulders with

1626
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:58,639
Speaker 1: them in your life chain, or you can bump into

1627
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 1: the wrong person, go take it without on your house,

1628
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 1: give them that money, and then be in the same

1629
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 1: situation in eighteen months and nothing happens. The tricky part

1630
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 1: about it is sometimes that depends on the fans' reaction

1631
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 1: to the product, meaning they just don't don't enjoy what

1632
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 1: you bring to the market. And then other times it's

1633
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 1: just simply because no one followed through with any other

1634
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 1: things that you were promised, and you don't have to

1635
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 1: know how or the validity to question some of the

1636
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 1: people that's been doing this for such a long time.

1637
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 1: So they look at you and say, this amount of

1638
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 1: money gets this done, and you say, well, hin the hell,

1639
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 1: and you just you just take it um. So operating

1640
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 1: in that gray area is a very it's a very

1641
01:38:57,080 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 1: scary space, you know, for entrepreneur or Like I meant

1642
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,800
Speaker 1: it right now, right, I got people, I got people

1643
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 1: from all over trying to get me to hire them

1644
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 1: for certain things. Oh man, you got it, everything you need,

1645
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:11,080
Speaker 1: you got it. All you gotta do is this and

1646
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 1: then I can I can get that done for you.

1647
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 1: But it's this much. I keep thinking of myself, No, man,

1648
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:21,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. And I keep them around just to

1649
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 1: see because if I see one one flashing the bucket,

1650
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:28,439
Speaker 1: that is real. I'm following along through with it. But

1651
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 1: I can't. I spent a lot of money in this game.

1652
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 1: I see, I paid for my experience. I've paid to

1653
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 1: be able to talk how I talk, hundreds of thousands

1654
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 1: of dollars out of them putting this entertainment business. A

1655
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 1: lot of that money was wasted money from a standpoint

1656
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 1: of effectiveness for the brand that the money was spent on.

1657
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 1: It was almost like college tuition, you understand me. I

1658
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 1: spent a lot of money in the entertainment being this.

1659
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 1: Some results I got, others I didn't. But what I

1660
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 1: did leave their it is an understanding on how to

1661
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 1: take a test, how to retain information. You know, like

1662
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,639
Speaker 1: if you're in college, you leave there with certain tools

1663
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:11,960
Speaker 1: on how to even approach problems. You understand because they've

1664
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:16,760
Speaker 1: they've they've carved out certain techniques in your brain and

1665
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 1: now you live with those things. And so I'm in

1666
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 1: that same position. But the issue is is that, um

1667
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:29,599
Speaker 1: it's a very scary place, you know, because Monk always

1668
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 1: tell me, whatever you do, don't let it to fick

1669
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 1: your lifestyle. And I took that game and I ran

1670
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 1: with it, but I had to edit that game because

1671
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 1: at some point it may call for you to fick

1672
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 1: your lifestyle to make that that second push. You know

1673
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But it gotta be you gotta know

1674
01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 1: the game. You gotta know what you're in for. And

1675
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:52,560
Speaker 1: that's the problem. Like when people tell me, yo, I

1676
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:54,679
Speaker 1: could do this for you out through a company, out

1677
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 1: to him letting them know I already really know how

1678
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 1: to do I don't know how to do it, but

1679
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:04,639
Speaker 1: I know about what area to do this in, you understand,

1680
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:09,440
Speaker 1: company wise, And they always they always try to discredit

1681
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 1: whatever I say. Well, now, the company really can't do it.

1682
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 1: They ain't dada what they're gonna do. Iss da da,

1683
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna do dad right, And I'm always peeping games,

1684
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:19,800
Speaker 1: so I just soak it up. Okay, yeah, yeah, for

1685
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:22,559
Speaker 1: show for show. But in the back of my mind again,

1686
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:25,760
Speaker 1: I'm in Bluetooth Mold. I know more than I say,

1687
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:28,439
Speaker 1: and I say less than I know. You know what

1688
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and I always I'm always gonna be that way.

1689
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 1: But um so, for those who don't know all of

1690
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 1: that happened, Karen Sivil's history is with Little Wayne, Nipsey, Hustle,

1691
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 1: r P, nib Um, Young Jeezy yg meet Meal Cameron.

1692
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 1: She's worked with all these different people or Apple, Beast

1693
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 1: by Dre of course, revolte Um just certain you know,

1694
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 1: she's worked with it with everybody, and she's in the

1695
01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 1: big boy companies like Apple and now let what. She

1696
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 1: can contact certain individuals and things that make certain things happen.

1697
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:07,600
Speaker 1: So she's a button pusher. So to have her on

1698
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:11,520
Speaker 1: your phone line is important if you are an inspiring

1699
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 1: person that may got some real level content that can

1700
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 1: get a push. And so Joinn of Lucas on this

1701
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 1: particular situation came on the club house and he called

1702
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 1: out because he says that he was at a position

1703
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 1: in his career before the Joiner, Before the Joiner Lucas.

1704
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 1: You know now they had songs with Eminem and all

1705
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:35,840
Speaker 1: these other artists. This was just an independent Joinn of Lucas,

1706
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 1: not even a million followers, barely moving. But he had

1707
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 1: an investor. I think his investor was like an NFL star,

1708
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 1: really believed in him far as rapping was concerned. And

1709
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 1: so when I think he said, he said that the

1710
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 1: investor was five hundred thousand n on investing on him,

1711
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 1: just on frivolous little things, you know, feature Hill, you know,

1712
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 1: opening up here again. You're paying for the information of

1713
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:06,200
Speaker 1: this game. Like none of that meant nothing. We spent

1714
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand last year and then none of that

1715
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 1: even moved the needle we wish, right, So you get

1716
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:13,760
Speaker 1: to learn these things, and therefore you should be able

1717
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 1: to operate with a law overhead. Your next round but

1718
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 1: he was five six hundred thousand end. The dude say, look, man,

1719
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm about ready to check out, Like, I don't have

1720
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:25,320
Speaker 1: millions of dollars just to pull into this, right, So

1721
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 1: I got I got a little bit more left in

1722
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 1: and we'll figure it out. So for him, Joan Lucas

1723
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 1: went and asked someone reputable guy that he knows, you know,

1724
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 1: from a certain area about man, who can I hire?

1725
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:40,519
Speaker 1: Who who should I get as my public as I

1726
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:44,479
Speaker 1: need somebody to put me in some rooms. She said,

1727
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 1: Karen sivil. So we'll listen to Jonan Lucas explain kind

1728
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 1: of what happened, and then we'll speak more to it.

1729
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, Karen solid, that's a good That's

1730
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:57,639
Speaker 1: a good way to go. How I sat back, that's

1731
01:43:57,680 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 1: around the time that she did one hundred dollars mixtape. Shit,

1732
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And I'm like, damn, Karen's

1733
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 1: a way to go. At the time I was fucked up,

1734
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 1: I had an investor he then already kicked up so

1735
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 1: much money, and the only thing that I had left

1736
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 1: was a little bit of bread that we had left

1737
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:14,560
Speaker 1: in which we chose to hire you. And that was

1738
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 1: a big decision on our behalf because that was all

1739
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 1: that was really left. I'm sorry, that's all that's all

1740
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 1: that was really left in a budget. So again this

1741
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 1: is this is Karen and join her speaking with each

1742
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:31,800
Speaker 1: other for the first time, um in a long time.

1743
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 1: Joinner now has went off. Let's put everything in this

1744
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 1: proper perspective. Since that time, you're dealing with a Karen

1745
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 1: sivil That's not the Karen Silva you know now, the

1746
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:45,320
Speaker 1: million dollar girl, right because I'm sure Joe them you know,

1747
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:48,599
Speaker 1: she has a podcast on Joe Budden's network. I'm sure

1748
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 1: she She's able to get some money out this game, right,

1749
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 1: So you're dealing with a different person. Back then she

1750
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 1: may have been scratching in clawing And I heard academics

1751
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:02,639
Speaker 1: make a good point, and that's true. Sometimes you're paying

1752
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:06,760
Speaker 1: for who I am. Like, yo, bro, you can't pay

1753
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 1: to get on this up that podcast, right, so somebody

1754
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:14,640
Speaker 1: might can call a favor in and you got to

1755
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:18,479
Speaker 1: pay them for that favor they used with me, you

1756
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. So it's all kind of stuff

1757
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 1: like that going on. This is entrepreneur Land. This ain't

1758
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 1: the gold clock in your lunch break is nine fifteen

1759
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 1: your lunches at twelve o'clock two thirty, you need to

1760
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 1: be back on clock. You cannot take over fifteen minutes

1761
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 1: of break time. You get in the current when you left.

1762
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 1: It ain't that. This is entrepreneur land. You eat what

1763
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 1: you kill. You figure it out. So sometimes you're paying

1764
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 1: me for me using the favors I got with the

1765
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 1: people that owe me favors. I'm gonna get you a

1766
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:55,920
Speaker 1: receipt because I leverage the favor I head that you

1767
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:58,960
Speaker 1: couldn't take that same sixty thousand to them and pay

1768
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 1: for you couldn't even get in communication with them. I'm

1769
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:06,600
Speaker 1: telling y'all, there's walls in this game. There's walls in

1770
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 1: this game where you can't get to the other side.

1771
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 1: You right here at the door with everything you got,

1772
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 1: your backpack, your cameras, everything, all good, your numbers together,

1773
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 1: you can't get to that. Somebody else got to tag

1774
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 1: you in the game, and not from a position that

1775
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 1: they better than you, that they are smarter than you.

1776
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 1: They just are on the other side and there's no information,

1777
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 1: no one sharing information. It's like a big wall. It's

1778
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:39,600
Speaker 1: the independent people, and not even the independent because a

1779
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 1: lot of them are operating with industry, an industry team,

1780
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 1: but they're independent artists. That's a whole other conversation. But

1781
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 1: there's an invisible wall there, man, where someone got to

1782
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:54,080
Speaker 1: get you to the other side and get your press

1783
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 1: releases in and get your Google index, then get your

1784
01:46:57,640 --> 01:47:00,680
Speaker 1: sco together, get your ass stuff together. You know, this,

1785
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 1: that and their third you know, get all that together

1786
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 1: and make you a legitimate free agent. You know, so

1787
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 1: you're dealing with the Karen said, we're back in the day. Now,

1788
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 1: let's be clear on that, and a Joinna Lucas back

1789
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 1: in the day. Jinna Lucas has now went on to

1790
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 1: sell millions of records. He has songs with eminem He's

1791
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 1: the guy that did the song. And how I was

1792
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 1: introduced to him was on Facebook. Um, they told their stories.

1793
01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 1: Spent a million dollars on Well, I'm sorry to spent

1794
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 1: three hundred fifty thousand dollars on Facebook just to get

1795
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:35,720
Speaker 1: a million followers, just to have a million eyes on you.

1796
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:38,160
Speaker 1: They spent three hundred and fifty thousand. That don't even

1797
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 1: mean a million customers, just a million followers. Dog. That

1798
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 1: is That's why I'm trying to tell you. If you

1799
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 1: don't have the information, You're gonna break the bank to

1800
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,720
Speaker 1: get it. It can be dumb, but he's gonna break

1801
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 1: the bank. Nonetheless. Um, he was the guy that on

1802
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:57,720
Speaker 1: Facebook a long time ago there was a video that

1803
01:47:57,840 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 1: went viral and I was like, Yo, this is su

1804
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:02,920
Speaker 1: but dope. It was a little white boy sitting in

1805
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 1: the m he was dead in the middle of the

1806
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 1: street and somebody was rapping like the story of what

1807
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 1: happened to him in Hi this And I was like, Yo,

1808
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 1: that was dope. And that ended up being Join the

1809
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 1: lucas you see, and so, um, let's see a little

1810
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:21,559
Speaker 1: more what they're talking about. That time. I was twenty fifteen.

1811
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:24,320
Speaker 1: You keep saying it was seven years ago, but that

1812
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:26,160
Speaker 1: was a big time of my life. My son was

1813
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 1: about to be just born. My back was against the wall.

1814
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:31,759
Speaker 1: I had an investor who kicked up hundreds and thousand dollars,

1815
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, on behalf of me. And at this time,

1816
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:39,639
Speaker 1: you know, hiring you was like our last ditch effort

1817
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 1: to really do something. And I really believed in the

1818
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:45,920
Speaker 1: name Karen Civil and you know, just just just reading

1819
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 1: the publications and talking to sky Zoo sky Zoo Co

1820
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 1: signing like a motherfucker. Yo, that's my girl. Yeah, Yo,

1821
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 1: Karen's the real deal. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's my homie.

1822
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:57,320
Speaker 1: And I kept telling Sky like, yo, you short, you

1823
01:48:57,479 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 1: short this your girl, like you show you trust He

1824
01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:01,479
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, not even gonna have a problem, trust me.

1825
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 1: I said, I bet so. We reached out to you

1826
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:08,240
Speaker 1: and you have put together a little memo. We talked

1827
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:10,679
Speaker 1: about it, you agreed to do it. That included blog

1828
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:16,479
Speaker 1: placements for song releases, delivery of digital short creation stories,

1829
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:23,200
Speaker 1: facilitating interviews with media, publications, building fan engagement, articulated social content, capture,

1830
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 1: red carpet event opportunities, iTunes, beat music productions, radio interviews,

1831
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 1: acquiring booking agent, showing opening and basically brand building. Again,

1832
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 1: I keep telling y'all, people have to look at your

1833
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:39,840
Speaker 1: brand as a certain thing. That's why it was important

1834
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:43,560
Speaker 1: that what Big Bank said the Birdman like, Yo, it

1835
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 1: means something for you to come stamp this, bro, it

1836
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 1: means something. And that's why I tell y'all it meant

1837
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 1: something for Bank to post me and say, yo, bro,

1838
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 1: you inspire. You understand. It means something to the game.

1839
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 1: It means something to me. It's a it's a certain

1840
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:02,559
Speaker 1: co sign it's like, Yo, that's dope. But we gotta

1841
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:04,559
Speaker 1: do that to each other when we're in that brand

1842
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:09,800
Speaker 1: building process to legitimize these things in the fans mind.

1843
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:13,280
Speaker 1: You know, we always fighting a different fight, like you

1844
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 1: gotta listen to what I'm telling you and understand that

1845
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:19,960
Speaker 1: I understand. And because you need to be in communication

1846
01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 1: with some people. That's in communication with some people, you

1847
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:25,559
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And that's just how this game works.

1848
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 1: At the time, that was that was everything. It was like, word, finally,

1849
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:32,679
Speaker 1: somebody that's gonna help us, because I ain't know nobody

1850
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:35,600
Speaker 1: that can help us. I'm from otherfucking what's the Massachusetts

1851
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 1: and I'm out here in Boston. Ain't nothing. You know

1852
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't. I don't know the first

1853
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 1: thing to fucking do to get on. So I'm thinking,

1854
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, align myself with somebody that's

1855
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:46,400
Speaker 1: already in the game doing it. This person gonna take

1856
01:50:46,439 --> 01:50:48,880
Speaker 1: me under their wing. You name your price. Your price

1857
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 1: was sixty K, whatever the fuck it was. It was

1858
01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:53,640
Speaker 1: like bad, let's pay that. Told my investor, let's pay that.

1859
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 1: This motherfucker say you sure you sure you want to

1860
01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 1: pay this woman. You access guy Zoo say you know it,

1861
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:01,439
Speaker 1: let's pay it. Mind you like I said, my son

1862
01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 1: about to be born, so I said, fuck it, let's go.

1863
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:06,560
Speaker 1: We paid you. I remember going to the bait. We

1864
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 1: went with Skot ZOOI walked, I walked in to the

1865
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:12,080
Speaker 1: bank with the nigga. I'm involved in the whole fucking process.

1866
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:14,479
Speaker 1: I'm watching the whole ship go down. As soon as

1867
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:17,080
Speaker 1: he sent that brat, I was happy as a motherfucker.

1868
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 1: I said, word Karen, civil Nigga. I'm telling everybody back home,

1869
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:22,360
Speaker 1: and shit, nig I'm about to have Karen, because all

1870
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 1: I see is a perception. Nipsey. You know everything else

1871
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 1: that you're doing on like word Fodily, somebody about to

1872
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 1: come up, somebody about to come and help me, save me,

1873
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And finally am about to

1874
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 1: do something. I don't give a fuck what it is.

1875
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:38,240
Speaker 1: She gives me some shows, is she whatever? Take me

1876
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:41,439
Speaker 1: under your wing, put me on some blogs something. Because

1877
01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:43,920
Speaker 1: I didn't have a ship popping, I had a music

1878
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 1: video I was working on called Ross CAPPUCCIONI. As soon

1879
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:50,000
Speaker 1: as that money was paid, you know, we had like

1880
01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:52,960
Speaker 1: a conversation on the phone. Everything was peachy. On his

1881
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:54,760
Speaker 1: phone call. You were like, Yeah, we're gonna do this,

1882
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 1: da da daday. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, word,

1883
01:51:57,240 --> 01:52:00,160
Speaker 1: I felt real good. As soon as we hung up

1884
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 1: the phone, we didn't really hear ship from you. That

1885
01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:06,559
Speaker 1: was it. That was really it. And every single time

1886
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 1: I try to reach out to you, you're talking to

1887
01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:11,479
Speaker 1: me like I'm disturbing your fucking day. I'm calling you

1888
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:14,519
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to get some clarity. I wasn't blowing

1889
01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 1: you the fuck up. I just wanted to know what

1890
01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:18,559
Speaker 1: the plant was, what's going on, what we're doing, what's

1891
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 1: the you know what I mean. You gotta remember I'm

1892
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 1: a nigga who just had my investor gives it the

1893
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 1: last sick momofucker told me like, Yo, this is it.

1894
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:26,760
Speaker 1: After this, nigga, this shit don't work. I'm already five

1895
01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 1: hundred thousand, six hundred thousand deep in your career. Nigga,

1896
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:30,600
Speaker 1: this shit don't work. I don't know what to do.

1897
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:33,760
Speaker 1: So now I'm sitting here nervous, my son about to

1898
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 1: be born any fucking day now, and I'm sitting there

1899
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 1: trying to hit you because I'm looking you know what

1900
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 1: I'm saying for you to be like, Yo, we're good.

1901
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm about to get you this. I'm about to do that. Now.

1902
01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:47,439
Speaker 1: What I heard you say earlier was radio got paid

1903
01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:50,920
Speaker 1: such and such. Nowhere in this memo that said anything

1904
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 1: about radio. We were already paying radio, being shadowing them

1905
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 1: niggas or whoever the fuck is out here in New

1906
01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 1: York doing anything. You already was doing that shit. We

1907
01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:01,800
Speaker 1: didn't pay you for radio. That's not why we got you.

1908
01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 1: That's not why we so you tell. So he's responding

1909
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 1: to Karen Civil basically saying that she never stole any money.

1910
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:12,680
Speaker 1: All the money was spent to further the career, and

1911
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:16,080
Speaker 1: Joanna just didn't get the reaction that he wanted to get.

1912
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 1: And you see some of these things happen. Meet Meal

1913
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:22,120
Speaker 1: then Chime then not on clubhouse, but a tweet and

1914
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:25,880
Speaker 1: said Karen was my home girl. She she just switched

1915
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 1: up on me for opportunity. So again, all these people

1916
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:34,160
Speaker 1: are piling on because they want people to know Cameron. Oh,

1917
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 1: now y'all believe me. You know, people are saying these things,

1918
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 1: but again, dealing with a different day in time. Not

1919
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:44,920
Speaker 1: that that makes it right. I can't justify taking money.

1920
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:47,879
Speaker 1: We don't deal with taking money on no level from nobody,

1921
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 1: the police, nobody. This is illegal money, you know. But

1922
01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:57,479
Speaker 1: far as you know, gone, you dig. So we don't

1923
01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 1: deal with taking money. That's that's off the table. Robbery

1924
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 1: is off the table, right So that's what he's responding to. That,

1925
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:10,160
Speaker 1: that's her defense to some of the things that he's

1926
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 1: saying right now that we paid radio with that Where

1927
01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 1: how I'm looking at the memo right now that you

1928
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 1: sent me. Nowhere in this motherfucker doesn say you was

1929
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 1: gonna put twenty thirty thousand at radio. They don't say that.

1930
01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 1: All it says was radio interviews. We didn't even get

1931
01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:29,720
Speaker 1: no fucking radio interviews. There was no show openings, there

1932
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 1: was no blog placements. And what you're talking about mix shows,

1933
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:34,840
Speaker 1: We was already getting mix shows. I didn't need you

1934
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:37,080
Speaker 1: for that shit. That's not why I got you because

1935
01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:39,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't get a fucking mix show. I didn't get

1936
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:42,560
Speaker 1: you because I couldn't get a radio interview. I didn't

1937
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 1: get you because I didn't have a little bit of

1938
01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:47,640
Speaker 1: a little blog traction. That's not why I got you.

1939
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:49,840
Speaker 1: I felt like you sold me a fucking dream. And

1940
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:52,640
Speaker 1: then you stopped answering my phone call. Mind you, I

1941
01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:55,240
Speaker 1: got a son on the way, and this is all

1942
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 1: I got you, feel me? So I'm real fucked up now.

1943
01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 1: And then you every time you answered the phone, it

1944
01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 1: was like, nigga, what you want? Type shit like you

1945
01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:06,200
Speaker 1: like I'm bothering you. And then I noticed you said

1946
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:08,960
Speaker 1: some shit on your tweet like or the ship that

1947
01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:11,440
Speaker 1: shaved room post say your little letter and ship where

1948
01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:15,240
Speaker 1: you was like, oh, you know, artists think they have

1949
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 1: twenty four access to you? Motherfucker. If I just handed

1950
01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 1: you sixty K and I had access to you before,

1951
01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 1: I should have access to you now. I can't talk

1952
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 1: to you. Who the fuck you think you I can't

1953
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 1: have a conversation with the person I just handed sixty

1954
01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 1: k to her count. I don't know who the fuck

1955
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:33,920
Speaker 1: you paid or what you get. No breakdown, no fat

1956
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you speak. I'm gonna let you speak.

1957
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:44,080
Speaker 1: I got you. I'm okay, okay. Somebody else talking real quick. Hey, look,

1958
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:46,240
Speaker 1: I'll shut the fuck up with somebody else is talking,

1959
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 1: I allow him to finish somebody else. If she went

1960
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:52,600
Speaker 1: Terence time to talk, I promise I shut the funk up.

1961
01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:55,440
Speaker 1: I won't say nothing. Go ahead, bro, you're good. You're

1962
01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 1: good like YO. She's saying a lot of shit like YO.

1963
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:01,800
Speaker 1: Artists think you know, I was supposed to have twenty

1964
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 1: four hour access. This is where you fucked up, in

1965
01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 1: my opinion, when you sent this voice memo, I mean,

1966
01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 1: this deal memo. You don't ever broke down what exactly

1967
01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 1: you were doing with the bread. It was like it

1968
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 1: was all going to you, and whatever you decide to

1969
01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 1: do it is what you decide to do with it.

1970
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:18,000
Speaker 1: And we put a lot of trust behind that. I

1971
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 1: didn't even question what you did with the money. Whatever

1972
01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 1: you choose to do or whoever you choose to pay,

1973
01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 1: was the trust situation that I felt like you knew

1974
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:28,120
Speaker 1: what the fuck you were doing. If I thought you

1975
01:56:28,240 --> 01:56:30,320
Speaker 1: was about to go pay for some mixed shows and radio,

1976
01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 1: I would have never did that shit. That's not what

1977
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 1: I needed. I didn't want that shit. I needed you

1978
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:39,320
Speaker 1: to come through. Put your fucking arm around me, the

1979
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:41,560
Speaker 1: same way I've seen you put your arm around Nip,

1980
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 1: and I had those conversations with you on the phone

1981
01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 1: while I said, Yo, the same ship when you put

1982
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 1: your arm around Nip and all these different things you're doing.

1983
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 1: I look up to that shit. That's what I need

1984
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 1: from you, that's what I want, that's what I'm paying

1985
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 1: for it. And everything was cool, we are on the

1986
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:55,840
Speaker 1: same page, and now all of a sudden, it's woo

1987
01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 1: woo woo. I can't do this. I don't know what

1988
01:56:57,640 --> 01:57:00,160
Speaker 1: niggas expect from me. Blah blah blah blah. And it's like,

1989
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:02,560
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Bro? And then you didn't

1990
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 1: answer the phone. You know what I'm saying. Every time

1991
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:06,760
Speaker 1: I hit you wasn't answering the phone, And now you

1992
01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:09,160
Speaker 1: want them. I try to have a conversation with you.

1993
01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:12,280
Speaker 1: Where the fuck was mine? Can I answer that first?

1994
01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 1: Before we're gonna speed up a little bit? So that's

1995
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:16,840
Speaker 1: how I feel. You're hurt, That's how That's how I feel.

1996
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to I'm not trying to be hyped.

1997
01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not trying to disc I got a

1998
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 1: lot of the multi stem from back then. That's that's

1999
01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:25,480
Speaker 1: coming up and feel me and I don't. I'm not

2000
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:29,920
Speaker 1: trying to disrespect. Let me ask you a question, Joiner,

2001
01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 1: how would you Karen to correct the situation with you

2002
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:35,480
Speaker 1: and her? How would you want to done. No, I

2003
01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:38,160
Speaker 1: want to Can I answer that first? Before he answers this? Yes?

2004
01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 1: Can I answer? Can I? Yeah? Okay, I'm sorry. Who

2005
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 1: is that? This is Kate Keita? Okay, cool? Let me

2006
01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:46,600
Speaker 1: answer this first, Joinner. I'm talking to you. I'm talking

2007
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 1: to your neutral tones, so I get what you're saying.

2008
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:51,320
Speaker 1: The disrespect of everybody else. Let's not do that to

2009
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:55,680
Speaker 1: one another. I'm just saying my voice. It's only it's

2010
01:57:55,720 --> 01:57:58,160
Speaker 1: not to be disrespectful to I'm yelling at you. I

2011
01:57:58,280 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 1: just have a lot of passion on what I'm saying,

2012
01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:01,760
Speaker 1: and I don't want you to take it like that.

2013
01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:03,840
Speaker 1: It's not it's not to that. I just you feel me.

2014
01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:08,360
Speaker 1: So I got that. So I'm gonna say this to answer,

2015
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 1: to answer your questions and to answer what you just said.

2016
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 1: I had conversations with the Sean still work with you?

2017
01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:20,600
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, cool, okay, cool. Sean and I had plenty

2018
01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:25,400
Speaker 1: of conversations. I've sent Sean emails. I literally still have

2019
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:29,360
Speaker 1: these emails pulled up from May twenty May twenty second,

2020
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:32,240
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. I had to literally go back and look

2021
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:34,480
Speaker 1: for it. For the people that I brought up, the

2022
01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:36,880
Speaker 1: people that I brought upon on your team the same

2023
01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:39,080
Speaker 1: way you said, Karen, I didn't know you was doing

2024
01:58:39,120 --> 01:58:42,200
Speaker 1: all of this. Whoop, the whoop. It's a conversation I

2025
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:44,440
Speaker 1: had with Sean. I know you need certain things. The

2026
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 1: area you were from. You told me I got radio

2027
01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:49,880
Speaker 1: and I got city on lock here. Cool. So when

2028
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:52,440
Speaker 1: it comes to interviews, when it comes to certain things,

2029
01:58:52,640 --> 01:58:55,120
Speaker 1: I paid out. I paid a radio person for that

2030
01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:58,240
Speaker 1: to help with that, a PR person. So and then

2031
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:01,680
Speaker 1: contexts the wait, wait, wait can you show me that? Yeah,

2032
01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:03,360
Speaker 1: show me that. That's all I want to see is

2033
01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:07,080
Speaker 1: just show me broken down. No, that's fine, but let

2034
01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:11,160
Speaker 1: me finish. So then when when when I guess you

2035
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:13,560
Speaker 1: made a comment yesterday, someone sent it to me today.

2036
01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:16,520
Speaker 1: Even let's go back. So when you got up, when

2037
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:18,920
Speaker 1: you got upset and you made your comments on on

2038
01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:22,440
Speaker 1: social I'm like, where is this coming from? I called Sean,

2039
01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:24,880
Speaker 1: and that's where you got them Texas. You put half

2040
01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:27,760
Speaker 1: the Texas from. I called Sean, I said, Sean, what

2041
01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:30,920
Speaker 1: is happening here? I know the last conversation you did

2042
01:59:31,000 --> 01:59:33,280
Speaker 1: say to me, you said, Karen, I have to fucking

2043
01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:36,240
Speaker 1: get on. I got a baby coming, I got my woman.

2044
01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:39,560
Speaker 1: This shit need to go. I said, yes, I understand,

2045
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:43,120
Speaker 1: I got you. I understand. But at the same time,

2046
01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 1: this is not something that happens overnight. I know that

2047
01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:48,560
Speaker 1: you went away. Wait, come on, I'll let you go.

2048
01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 1: So then so then you went on Twitter the first

2049
01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:54,040
Speaker 1: time you were upset. She took this and did the

2050
01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:58,400
Speaker 1: I called. I called Sean. I have the call recorded.

2051
01:59:58,440 --> 02:00:00,760
Speaker 1: I said, Sean, what's up with it? He said, he's upset.

2052
02:00:00,840 --> 02:00:03,120
Speaker 1: He's in rage, Karen, he just had his baby. He

2053
02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 1: gonna take it down. He's just upset, like he just

2054
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:08,920
Speaker 1: really like you guys, gotta talk you guys. I said, nah.

2055
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:11,120
Speaker 1: At this point, I don't like this, and this is

2056
02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:13,160
Speaker 1: coming from a point of like, I said, why is

2057
02:00:13,240 --> 02:00:16,240
Speaker 1: it okay that folks can be disrespectful online and we

2058
02:00:16,400 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 1: have to have these quiet conversations. I said, I want

2059
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:20,720
Speaker 1: to get back on the phone with him, But why

2060
02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:22,960
Speaker 1: are we getting back on the phone after this? I said,

2061
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:25,680
Speaker 1: this is messy as fuck for no reason. He said,

2062
02:00:25,720 --> 02:00:27,920
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna tell him to apologize. I said, tell

2063
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:29,840
Speaker 1: him say this if he if he wants something to

2064
02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:32,480
Speaker 1: say to clean it up. Here you go. We get

2065
02:00:32,520 --> 02:00:34,600
Speaker 1: back on the phone. And that's the little portion of

2066
02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:38,120
Speaker 1: the conversation. You're showing so even even I'm thinking at

2067
02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:40,480
Speaker 1: this point, I'm like, you never posted it. I said, cool.

2068
02:00:40,880 --> 02:00:42,720
Speaker 1: If he wants to leave it like that, I'm gonna

2069
02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:45,280
Speaker 1: leave it like that. I've seen you. After that, I've

2070
02:00:45,280 --> 02:00:47,080
Speaker 1: seen you. I've never seen you. I want to say,

2071
02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:48,880
Speaker 1: I've never seen you. And if you think I've seen you,

2072
02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:50,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was you. I'm just saying that

2073
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:53,160
Speaker 1: because if if I knew it was you, I absolutely

2074
02:00:53,240 --> 02:00:55,200
Speaker 1: would have approached you. I'm not type of nigga. I

2075
02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:56,720
Speaker 1: definitely would have walked up to you. I'm not the

2076
02:00:56,840 --> 02:00:58,800
Speaker 1: nigga that's not gonna I'm gonna let you finish though.

2077
02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you talk. I'm gonna let you talk.

2078
02:01:00,440 --> 02:01:03,040
Speaker 1: Let's let's simmer down on the approach. Yeah, I'm gonna

2079
02:01:03,080 --> 02:01:08,360
Speaker 1: let you talk. That you keep, you keep with this narrative.

2080
02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm not that nigga, but absolutely that narrative. That narrative. Jonah, jonah, jonah, Okay,

2081
02:01:19,200 --> 02:01:21,600
Speaker 1: one might, one might, one might, one might hold up,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, Jonah, let her talk. I'm okay, I can

2083
02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:26,360
Speaker 1: talk to you. Don't talk talk to me. What two

2084
02:01:26,440 --> 02:01:30,800
Speaker 1: individuals having a conversation speak back down the girl speak

2085
02:01:31,400 --> 02:01:34,520
Speaker 1: speak speak seeing you not from the sense of all

2086
02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:37,560
Speaker 1: we got beat all communication. I've said this from the

2087
02:01:37,600 --> 02:01:40,480
Speaker 1: prior before this, it would have been communication, and it

2088
02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:43,120
Speaker 1: wasn't that. I saw you write your thing. I said, damn,

2089
02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:45,839
Speaker 1: this nigga is still upset by this. So I hit Charloman.

2090
02:01:45,880 --> 02:01:47,360
Speaker 1: I said, I want to get this man on the

2091
02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:49,160
Speaker 1: I want to get this man on the phone. Because

2092
02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:51,200
Speaker 1: the last time we had some ship, the ship was

2093
02:01:51,240 --> 02:01:53,720
Speaker 1: on Twitter. We never communicated. I want to get this

2094
02:01:53,800 --> 02:01:55,920
Speaker 1: communication and I want us to come to a common

2095
02:01:56,000 --> 02:01:58,080
Speaker 1: ground because I don't want this nigga to feel like this,

2096
02:01:58,240 --> 02:02:00,880
Speaker 1: because I do remember that conversation with us, and you said,

2097
02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:03,160
Speaker 1: my baby's about to be born. This shit ain't right

2098
02:02:03,640 --> 02:02:05,320
Speaker 1: x y Z. I said, I do want to speak

2099
02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:07,600
Speaker 1: to him. Charlemagne told me what you felt. I said,

2100
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:09,960
Speaker 1: forget it. Then he still has an attitude and he's

2101
02:02:10,040 --> 02:02:12,880
Speaker 1: upset and he wants to do social and you did social.

2102
02:02:12,960 --> 02:02:15,280
Speaker 1: That's what it was. So how exactly was I supposed

2103
02:02:15,320 --> 02:02:17,320
Speaker 1: to reach out? What else was I supposed to say

2104
02:02:17,480 --> 02:02:19,720
Speaker 1: when every time it's supposed to be a conversation is

2105
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:23,000
Speaker 1: not no, no, it's this. It's all this aggression where

2106
02:02:23,080 --> 02:02:25,200
Speaker 1: is this supposed to find common ground that you're not

2107
02:02:25,680 --> 02:02:28,560
Speaker 1: You're not You're not fine with the way something happened.

2108
02:02:28,760 --> 02:02:32,400
Speaker 1: I literally kept everything from sitting here when you even

2109
02:02:32,480 --> 02:02:34,920
Speaker 1: talked about excuse me, I'm going to this email too,

2110
02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:37,360
Speaker 1: even when you talked about like I'm gonna try to

2111
02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:39,280
Speaker 1: get you, I'm gonna try to get you an agent.

2112
02:02:39,480 --> 02:02:41,480
Speaker 1: I have the email I sent to them. I was

2113
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:46,120
Speaker 1: so fucking proactive with doing your business. I was proactive

2114
02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:48,760
Speaker 1: when he came to you. There's some better hits and misses.

2115
02:02:49,000 --> 02:02:51,840
Speaker 1: It takes longer than other times, and that's what you

2116
02:02:51,920 --> 02:02:54,640
Speaker 1: know what. I'll take that, if that's what you wanted.

2117
02:02:54,720 --> 02:02:57,480
Speaker 1: If I'll take that. This shit took longer. But that's

2118
02:02:57,520 --> 02:03:00,360
Speaker 1: what this business is. But I didn't run away. What's

2119
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:03,840
Speaker 1: your fifty sixty k? Like this is senior being insinuated.

2120
02:03:04,040 --> 02:03:06,040
Speaker 1: Everybody had to get paid to be a part of this.

2121
02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna see here, and just like, let me

2122
02:03:08,280 --> 02:03:10,600
Speaker 1: take it and fuck him, knowing that you could actually

2123
02:03:10,680 --> 02:03:13,960
Speaker 1: fucking rat. Knowing you could rat, knowing I know you're

2124
02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:17,000
Speaker 1: gonna go places. So it's like, oh, I'm never gonna

2125
02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:19,600
Speaker 1: see him again. I'm gonna be here for the long run.

2126
02:03:20,120 --> 02:03:21,840
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna be here for the long run,

2127
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:23,440
Speaker 1: So what do I get out of that? And yes,

2128
02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take back, Like Yo, Charlemagne, I like

2129
02:03:26,200 --> 02:03:28,640
Speaker 1: I saw his comment. I wasn't mad at your comment.

2130
02:03:28,760 --> 02:03:30,840
Speaker 1: Like he's allowed to feel the way he did this,

2131
02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:33,400
Speaker 1: just the same way I said about Jason. Yeah, you're

2132
02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:39,040
Speaker 1: you're upset sporration date. So that's why I said, let

2133
02:03:39,080 --> 02:03:41,040
Speaker 1: me get this man on the phone, because I'd rather

2134
02:03:41,200 --> 02:03:43,160
Speaker 1: him tell me get it all out. You could have

2135
02:03:43,200 --> 02:03:45,760
Speaker 1: been on the phone, non cant. I'm fucking upsetting my baby.

2136
02:03:46,040 --> 02:03:48,880
Speaker 1: Whoop the whoop? What the fuck? X y Z this

2137
02:03:49,120 --> 02:03:51,800
Speaker 1: is what blah blah blah. I still have all this

2138
02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:53,840
Speaker 1: to this day, of all the stuff that I literally

2139
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:56,920
Speaker 1: tried to fucking do, And it's like I stopped as

2140
02:03:56,960 --> 02:03:58,640
Speaker 1: soon as the tweets went up, and I'm like, and

2141
02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:01,960
Speaker 1: I spoke to Sean and I recorded that conversation and

2142
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, Sean was like, nah, he's upset. He's about

2143
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:06,920
Speaker 1: to apologize. I'm like, Sean, man, why are we even

2144
02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:09,960
Speaker 1: doing this? This just looks whack. This is just whack

2145
02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:12,400
Speaker 1: that is going like this, He yells, were getting to

2146
02:04:12,520 --> 02:04:15,360
Speaker 1: argue we worked together. I don't want to public I said,

2147
02:04:15,360 --> 02:04:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't do Tina and Ike. I'll never forget that.

2148
02:04:18,080 --> 02:04:20,920
Speaker 1: I said, I don't do that public display a bullshit.

2149
02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:24,640
Speaker 1: Let's argue internally. Let's like, if you want to have

2150
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:27,600
Speaker 1: an issue with me, yo, argue with me personally. But

2151
02:04:27,720 --> 02:04:29,920
Speaker 1: then now it's on the internet, everybody see this. How

2152
02:04:29,960 --> 02:04:32,480
Speaker 1: are we supposed to move forward from this? That literally

2153
02:04:32,600 --> 02:04:35,200
Speaker 1: was our last conversation till I saw what you said, Yes,

2154
02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:37,640
Speaker 1: till I saw what you said yesterday, this or well

2155
02:04:37,680 --> 02:04:40,000
Speaker 1: early this morning, because it was like two am. So

2156
02:04:40,120 --> 02:04:42,440
Speaker 1: I hit Charlotte, like, let me speak to this man

2157
02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:51,120
Speaker 1: because if this reason, I'm playing this audio through a

2158
02:04:51,360 --> 02:04:54,960
Speaker 1: B C, D, e FT whatever else because things get misconstrued.

2159
02:04:55,320 --> 02:04:57,480
Speaker 1: But then you said, then you told him something, and

2160
02:04:57,520 --> 02:04:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, at this point, Charlotte, may fuck it. I

2161
02:05:00,200 --> 02:05:02,120
Speaker 1: even take her much from this ship and I'm still

2162
02:05:02,200 --> 02:05:07,160
Speaker 1: dealing with this. Yeah, we'll move on from that particular situation.

2163
02:05:07,240 --> 02:05:10,440
Speaker 1: You get the gist of it. Basically, some money was exchanged.

2164
02:05:10,520 --> 02:05:13,400
Speaker 1: She's saying, I paid everybody to try to help and

2165
02:05:13,600 --> 02:05:16,880
Speaker 1: be involved, and they were involved from a minimal standpoint

2166
02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:21,520
Speaker 1: in regards to the results. That they came from it, right,

2167
02:05:21,640 --> 02:05:25,879
Speaker 1: So she's saying she paid everybody, and in that particular

2168
02:05:25,960 --> 02:05:28,400
Speaker 1: situation with John the Lucas, you would have no way

2169
02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:33,720
Speaker 1: of knowing the amount she's sent, you know who she

2170
02:05:33,840 --> 02:05:36,240
Speaker 1: sent certain things too, especially when we go to talking

2171
02:05:36,280 --> 02:05:39,960
Speaker 1: about radio and things like that. Then you ruin relationships

2172
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:42,040
Speaker 1: to further and further you go down that role and

2173
02:05:42,240 --> 02:05:46,560
Speaker 1: speaking about certain people, um doing certain things that maybe

2174
02:05:47,960 --> 02:05:50,440
Speaker 1: on the other side of llegal right, So you gotta

2175
02:05:50,480 --> 02:05:54,000
Speaker 1: be careful with that. Um. Now this other situation is

2176
02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:58,320
Speaker 1: one that got a little bit more intricate and interesting

2177
02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:02,720
Speaker 1: in regards to just what happened. So we have Jason

2178
02:06:02,840 --> 02:06:07,760
Speaker 1: Lee from Hollywood Unlocked also joined this clubhouse room where

2179
02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:13,920
Speaker 1: Karen Civil was under fire for allegedly taking money from

2180
02:06:14,000 --> 02:06:17,920
Speaker 1: people and something with Jesse Wool losing in court one

2181
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:23,720
Speaker 1: part of a lawsuit from my understanding, But Jason Lee

2182
02:06:23,960 --> 02:06:26,920
Speaker 1: then enters and see Jason Lee plays the game that

2183
02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:32,280
Speaker 1: they play. So Jason Lee, it's in a situation too.

2184
02:06:33,480 --> 02:06:38,160
Speaker 1: He's recorded conversations and he's working in media space, you know,

2185
02:06:38,600 --> 02:06:43,320
Speaker 1: like they is. Most of these media companies, the successful

2186
02:06:44,120 --> 02:06:48,040
Speaker 1: have women at the heads of them, and Jason is

2187
02:06:48,120 --> 02:06:51,040
Speaker 1: kind of able to run his company in that same vein.

2188
02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:54,920
Speaker 1: But but let's listen to when Jason then joined the room,

2189
02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:57,760
Speaker 1: things took a turn because he has receipts in proof

2190
02:06:58,400 --> 02:07:01,840
Speaker 1: and Karen then spute it the same way with join

2191
02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:04,880
Speaker 1: the Lucas. She kind of accepted this, and I would

2192
02:07:04,920 --> 02:07:07,920
Speaker 1: say that was a mistake as well, just from a

2193
02:07:08,040 --> 02:07:11,320
Speaker 1: legal brain perspective. And of course she's the person anybody

2194
02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:14,320
Speaker 1: called to get their brain out of trouble. So interesting

2195
02:07:14,360 --> 02:07:16,520
Speaker 1: to see how make some of these decisions. But let's

2196
02:07:16,560 --> 02:07:25,720
Speaker 1: listen when Jason into the room, money and having celebrities

2197
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:27,480
Speaker 1: pay her to try to put good block placements out

2198
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:29,240
Speaker 1: in order to build their cloud. She's done that, and

2199
02:07:29,320 --> 02:07:31,720
Speaker 1: she showed me how she leverages brands. She'll take a

2200
02:07:31,800 --> 02:07:34,240
Speaker 1: picture with Hennessey, make it look like an ad to

2201
02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:36,240
Speaker 1: then run over to Sirok and get it back. Now,

2202
02:07:36,280 --> 02:07:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at her hustle, but what I'm mad

2203
02:07:38,160 --> 02:07:41,240
Speaker 1: at is that the industry, the Breakfast club, all these

2204
02:07:41,280 --> 02:07:43,760
Speaker 1: people have given her a platform, use their platform, let

2205
02:07:43,840 --> 02:07:46,800
Speaker 1: her finesse them in order to give her culture clouds

2206
02:07:46,840 --> 02:07:49,440
Speaker 1: so she can go and rob the culture blind. I

2207
02:07:49,600 --> 02:07:53,240
Speaker 1: posted on my Instagram the other day when jesse Will

2208
02:07:53,320 --> 02:07:55,440
Speaker 1: put it out that she had won that case against her,

2209
02:07:55,480 --> 02:07:58,240
Speaker 1: I just pointed out joining the Lucas, But I also

2210
02:07:58,480 --> 02:08:03,080
Speaker 1: said that Nipsey's family don't even fuck no more. And

2211
02:08:03,200 --> 02:08:04,960
Speaker 1: they told me, and she told me out her mouth

2212
02:08:05,120 --> 02:08:06,960
Speaker 1: that when he died, they took her out of the

2213
02:08:07,040 --> 02:08:10,080
Speaker 1: whole marathon program that she was allegedly helping to build.

2214
02:08:10,520 --> 02:08:13,640
Speaker 1: Karen Sivil has been a scammer from day one. I

2215
02:08:13,800 --> 02:08:16,000
Speaker 1: have called it out. And you know what they say, Oh,

2216
02:08:16,080 --> 02:08:18,560
Speaker 1: that gay, messy nigga ain't nothing but being messy, and

2217
02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:21,920
Speaker 1: they try to control the narrative because she's so manipulated.

2218
02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:24,920
Speaker 1: But here's what I'm doing now, I'm calling out all

2219
02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:28,600
Speaker 1: of the other platform Shade, room Ball, Alert, Jasmine Brand,

2220
02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:32,680
Speaker 1: everybody who benefits from that relationship to do your motherfucking

2221
02:08:32,760 --> 02:08:35,600
Speaker 1: job because everybody in the culture is watching and we

2222
02:08:35,720 --> 02:08:39,200
Speaker 1: cannot pick and choose who we police. We have an

2223
02:08:39,240 --> 02:08:42,240
Speaker 1: obligation to our reviewers to be a non biased and

2224
02:08:42,400 --> 02:08:44,920
Speaker 1: just because she brings you a bag, don't mean you

2225
02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:46,720
Speaker 1: ain't got a job to do. But I love that

2226
02:08:46,800 --> 02:08:48,960
Speaker 1: this room is happening. I'm about to get a haircut

2227
02:08:49,040 --> 02:08:51,600
Speaker 1: and listen, and my team is in here as well,

2228
02:08:51,840 --> 02:08:54,720
Speaker 1: paying attention, and we're here to supper and opening out.

2229
02:08:55,160 --> 02:08:58,000
Speaker 1: You know, I've been trying to tell these niggas a

2230
02:08:58,080 --> 02:09:01,800
Speaker 1: long time ago what the fuck been going on with her?

2231
02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:04,200
Speaker 1: And I've been trying. I tried to tell niggas when

2232
02:09:04,240 --> 02:09:09,600
Speaker 1: this whole Nipsy ship from really being shut out, Big

2233
02:09:09,680 --> 02:09:12,960
Speaker 1: you reposted your boy, shout out, big you. But this

2234
02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:16,000
Speaker 1: shit y'all being sold is fucking cap And if y'all noticed,

2235
02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:18,720
Speaker 1: this family don't even fun with her, they don't mention her,

2236
02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:20,880
Speaker 1: they don't talk about her. So now y'all got to

2237
02:09:20,920 --> 02:09:24,080
Speaker 1: ask ourselves why she took the death for Nipsey, stood

2238
02:09:24,080 --> 02:09:25,920
Speaker 1: on top of that ship and then scaled all your

2239
02:09:25,960 --> 02:09:29,800
Speaker 1: motherfucker's blind from it. That's what that's even done. Y'all

2240
02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:33,360
Speaker 1: is gonna get robbed. You keep sucking with earth. That's

2241
02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:38,280
Speaker 1: check on Instagram. Um great, quick, my fault, y'all Now again, bro,

2242
02:09:38,320 --> 02:09:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead do a quick reset. I mean,

2243
02:09:40,080 --> 02:09:41,600
Speaker 1: it's a lot of people that just came in the

2244
02:09:41,680 --> 02:09:43,960
Speaker 1: room that probably don't know what's going on. Again. I

2245
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:46,680
Speaker 1: want to welcome y'all to the Crenshaw District. This is

2246
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:54,560
Speaker 1: a conversation Karen karrent Civil. Let's go publicist. She's not

2247
02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:58,080
Speaker 1: a publicist. She tell you what Karen Civil. Let me

2248
02:09:58,120 --> 02:10:00,240
Speaker 1: tell you what Karen stip All right, here's go around

2249
02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:02,040
Speaker 1: say that's not where Baio'll say, bro, but how all

2250
02:10:02,040 --> 02:10:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm then say I'm a digress on that. That's not

2251
02:10:03,920 --> 02:10:06,720
Speaker 1: where her Baio will say. Let me tell you what

2252
02:10:06,880 --> 02:10:09,000
Speaker 1: Karen Civil. Let me tell you what Karen Sivil is.

2253
02:10:09,120 --> 02:10:12,680
Speaker 1: Karen Sivil is a cultural finesser. She knows how to

2254
02:10:12,800 --> 02:10:16,640
Speaker 1: build relationship. She has the Harlem hustle. She knows how

2255
02:10:16,720 --> 02:10:19,240
Speaker 1: to make She knows how to build the smoke, sell

2256
02:10:19,320 --> 02:10:22,000
Speaker 1: the smoke, light the fire, and tell you somebody else

2257
02:10:22,080 --> 02:10:25,280
Speaker 1: did it. She baits and switches, and she knows how.

2258
02:10:25,520 --> 02:10:28,560
Speaker 1: She's a master at it. She's almost it's it's like

2259
02:10:28,800 --> 02:10:30,680
Speaker 1: it's like um made off, you know what I mean.

2260
02:10:30,840 --> 02:10:33,560
Speaker 1: She really knows how to build it, sell it, and

2261
02:10:33,680 --> 02:10:36,040
Speaker 1: then it's an empty shell. And I think the problem

2262
02:10:36,080 --> 02:10:39,000
Speaker 1: with people don't realize is that she's not a publicist.

2263
02:10:39,080 --> 02:10:41,440
Speaker 1: She's not a blogger. But she created a platform to

2264
02:10:41,560 --> 02:10:44,440
Speaker 1: tell celebrities. I can get all these blogs who I

2265
02:10:44,560 --> 02:10:47,240
Speaker 1: throw dinners for and lunches for and bring money to

2266
02:10:47,680 --> 02:10:49,640
Speaker 1: to write good about you if you pay me a bag,

2267
02:10:50,160 --> 02:10:51,640
Speaker 1: and then if you pay me a bag, I'm gonna

2268
02:10:51,640 --> 02:10:52,920
Speaker 1: go get in. Then she knows how to go to

2269
02:10:53,000 --> 02:10:54,840
Speaker 1: the brands and say, Hey, I have Nipsey Hustle, I

2270
02:10:54,920 --> 02:10:57,040
Speaker 1: have MacMahon, I have this person, I have mac Miller,

2271
02:10:57,080 --> 02:10:59,600
Speaker 1: I have I have Jko, I have Hillary Clinton. She

2272
02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:03,360
Speaker 1: is a master finesser. But guess what. So was Ted Bundy.

2273
02:11:03,640 --> 02:11:06,400
Speaker 1: So was the motherfuckers that blew up the who blew

2274
02:11:06,480 --> 02:11:11,200
Speaker 1: up the world. And one my one last thing, I

2275
02:11:11,360 --> 02:11:13,920
Speaker 1: only met Nipsey Hustle two times in my whole life.

2276
02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:16,560
Speaker 1: First time she introduced me to him. The second time

2277
02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:19,200
Speaker 1: was at the Rock Nation brunch with him and Lauren.

2278
02:11:19,280 --> 02:11:21,840
Speaker 1: I had an immense amount of respect for Nipsey. Still do.

2279
02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:23,720
Speaker 1: I have an immense amount of respect for how he

2280
02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:26,320
Speaker 1: represented the city of Los Angeles and how his legacy

2281
02:11:26,760 --> 02:11:29,520
Speaker 1: continue to move on. I did go to the the

2282
02:11:29,760 --> 02:11:35,280
Speaker 1: the memorial. It was the most beautiful, inspiring, motivational and

2283
02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:37,520
Speaker 1: sad thing I've ever been a part of, and it

2284
02:11:37,640 --> 02:11:39,960
Speaker 1: really moved me to the extent that when I look

2285
02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:42,800
Speaker 1: at his legacy, we have a responsibility at Hollywood and

2286
02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:44,920
Speaker 1: Lock to not only protect it, but to continue to

2287
02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:48,280
Speaker 1: elevate it. I was disgusted that she was allowed to,

2288
02:11:49,040 --> 02:11:51,800
Speaker 1: you know, stand there and make it look like it

2289
02:11:51,920 --> 02:11:54,360
Speaker 1: was something that she orchestrated. Nipsey Hustle brought all those

2290
02:11:54,360 --> 02:11:57,000
Speaker 1: people in that building, Nipsey Hustle brought Barack Obama statement,

2291
02:11:57,080 --> 02:12:00,920
Speaker 1: Nipsey Hustle brought Beyonce create so I can get in

2292
02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:03,600
Speaker 1: the room because apparently either me or somebody on the

2293
02:12:03,640 --> 02:12:05,360
Speaker 1: stage have each other blocked that I couldn't come in

2294
02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:08,080
Speaker 1: from my account, and I'm driving, and I'm not gonna

2295
02:12:08,120 --> 02:12:11,000
Speaker 1: get myself worked up because I want to make sure

2296
02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:14,440
Speaker 1: that the tone of the conversation don't distract you from

2297
02:12:14,480 --> 02:12:17,720
Speaker 1: the message, because sometimes the tone can make you get

2298
02:12:17,800 --> 02:12:20,760
Speaker 1: distracted from what is actually being said. I'm not here

2299
02:12:20,800 --> 02:12:22,880
Speaker 1: to defend Jesse Wool because all I do is report

2300
02:12:22,920 --> 02:12:25,280
Speaker 1: what people are saying. She said, what she said, We

2301
02:12:25,400 --> 02:12:28,200
Speaker 1: posted that, We posted Karen's response. I'm not here to

2302
02:12:28,280 --> 02:12:31,080
Speaker 1: talk about what Joiner Lucas is saying about you taking

2303
02:12:31,160 --> 02:12:36,880
Speaker 1: this money. I'm not here to talk about meet mill

2304
02:12:37,040 --> 02:12:40,080
Speaker 1: or what Cameron said, or what James R. Said. Karen,

2305
02:12:40,200 --> 02:12:43,800
Speaker 1: you sent me, You sent me multiple cease and assist letters,

2306
02:12:44,160 --> 02:12:46,960
Speaker 1: for posting stories about people saying that you took their money.

2307
02:12:47,240 --> 02:12:49,160
Speaker 1: You and I used to be friends. You and I

2308
02:12:49,320 --> 02:12:51,800
Speaker 1: used to be neighbors before Hollywood Unlock. You know, I

2309
02:12:51,880 --> 02:12:54,200
Speaker 1: own a credit repair company and I fixed your credit.

2310
02:12:54,320 --> 02:12:55,960
Speaker 1: That's how close you were, close enough for you to

2311
02:12:56,040 --> 02:12:58,720
Speaker 1: give me all. But let me let me finished, Let

2312
02:12:58,760 --> 02:13:06,000
Speaker 1: me finish that, come back when it comes to when

2313
02:13:06,040 --> 02:13:08,760
Speaker 1: it comes to Jason. I'm on my bullshit with Jason

2314
02:13:08,800 --> 02:13:10,960
Speaker 1: because me and Jason had a lot of back. So

2315
02:13:11,160 --> 02:13:14,879
Speaker 1: he's one. Yeah, he's one who's absolutely right. He's absolutely

2316
02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:17,240
Speaker 1: right in a certain sense, not with all of it. Yes,

2317
02:13:17,320 --> 02:13:19,840
Speaker 1: we were neighbors. You didn't fully help me with my credit.

2318
02:13:19,880 --> 02:13:22,240
Speaker 1: Sean Scales is actually helping me with my credit now

2319
02:13:22,400 --> 02:13:24,960
Speaker 1: and has them for the last few years. So you

2320
02:13:25,160 --> 02:13:27,840
Speaker 1: posted something, you posted something. Me and Jason would have

2321
02:13:27,920 --> 02:13:29,600
Speaker 1: our back and forth because you know who he was,

2322
02:13:29,920 --> 02:13:32,680
Speaker 1: He was, who he was with, who I was with. Yes,

2323
02:13:32,800 --> 02:13:37,680
Speaker 1: and this gentleman here, can you guys hear me? And

2324
02:13:38,320 --> 02:13:40,680
Speaker 1: in that situation, I think she's speaking about Joe Budden

2325
02:13:40,680 --> 02:13:43,760
Speaker 1: and Charlemagne, So he's referring to was not punching TD.

2326
02:13:44,200 --> 02:13:47,200
Speaker 1: That was somebody totally different. Yeah, this kid this kid

2327
02:13:47,320 --> 02:13:49,480
Speaker 1: is a hacker. And to a point of Vieah, Jason,

2328
02:13:49,760 --> 02:13:52,240
Speaker 1: you you playing this game? Yeah, I hit this nigga.

2329
02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:55,400
Speaker 1: Nobody promised him twenty thousand dollars, nobody promoted him a

2330
02:13:55,480 --> 02:13:57,760
Speaker 1: rap career or nothing like that. She just started to

2331
02:13:57,880 --> 02:14:01,600
Speaker 1: double back and tell you some stuff called Jason called

2332
02:14:01,680 --> 02:14:04,320
Speaker 1: me about it, or I admitted it to Jason. See

2333
02:14:04,400 --> 02:14:07,360
Speaker 1: that's what that's what he's not including any I admitted

2334
02:14:07,400 --> 02:14:12,000
Speaker 1: it to Jason. Jason, and I apologize to Jason. I

2335
02:14:12,080 --> 02:14:14,680
Speaker 1: gotta find this interview. I'm sorry you guys. We'll be

2336
02:14:14,840 --> 02:14:17,320
Speaker 1: right back. I'm gonna find this without whoever. This girl

2337
02:14:17,520 --> 02:14:20,680
Speaker 1: is in the background with the old mind. Wow, oh,

2338
02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:23,760
Speaker 1: I'll let that's trash. I don't like all that, So

2339
02:14:23,840 --> 02:14:25,960
Speaker 1: give me a second. We'll be right back. All right,

2340
02:14:26,040 --> 02:14:27,760
Speaker 1: then we're back. So what I would like to do

2341
02:14:27,960 --> 02:14:29,800
Speaker 1: now is pick up what we left off in their

2342
02:14:29,880 --> 02:14:32,920
Speaker 1: caring civil conversation. I think I got a better piece

2343
02:14:32,960 --> 02:14:37,120
Speaker 1: of audio. Um. And the only reason I'm doing this

2344
02:14:37,320 --> 02:14:39,280
Speaker 1: and allowing all of this to play because I want

2345
02:14:39,280 --> 02:14:42,960
Speaker 1: to be fed on both sides in regards to what

2346
02:14:43,240 --> 02:14:46,280
Speaker 1: both sides presented to the media when this took place.

2347
02:14:47,080 --> 02:14:50,680
Speaker 1: I know how a lot of podcasters get caught up

2348
02:14:50,720 --> 02:14:53,280
Speaker 1: in the moment. And I know that I'm dealing with

2349
02:14:53,400 --> 02:14:56,280
Speaker 1: a catalog, so I'm not sure when you may kiss

2350
02:14:56,360 --> 02:14:58,840
Speaker 1: this episode. So it's important for me to frame it

2351
02:14:59,400 --> 02:15:02,240
Speaker 1: so that because I am in discovery mode with my brand,

2352
02:15:02,320 --> 02:15:04,640
Speaker 1: so it's important for me to frame it in a way. Well,

2353
02:15:05,400 --> 02:15:07,440
Speaker 1: if you catch it in six months, you kind of

2354
02:15:07,480 --> 02:15:09,760
Speaker 1: still can understand what I was talking about or what

2355
02:15:09,920 --> 02:15:12,280
Speaker 1: could have been taking place and take some game from it.

2356
02:15:12,680 --> 02:15:17,640
Speaker 1: So let's get back into um, what Karen was saying.

2357
02:15:17,840 --> 02:15:22,600
Speaker 1: We left off where Jason confronted Karen basically let him know,

2358
02:15:23,600 --> 02:15:28,040
Speaker 1: um that she you know that that she knew that

2359
02:15:28,160 --> 02:15:30,160
Speaker 1: he knew that he had her hack from a hacker

2360
02:15:30,240 --> 02:15:33,040
Speaker 1: paid him twenty k allegedly all this is the situation.

2361
02:15:33,400 --> 02:15:37,920
Speaker 1: Let's listen to a little more. I said, I can't

2362
02:15:37,920 --> 02:15:39,920
Speaker 1: be fired from Wilding Out because I'm on the shopping

2363
02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:41,760
Speaker 1: on their five seasons. I got a contract MTV, so

2364
02:15:41,840 --> 02:15:43,920
Speaker 1: that would work there. The thing what you did was

2365
02:15:44,280 --> 02:15:47,800
Speaker 1: you you you use your your relationships, and you use

2366
02:15:47,960 --> 02:15:58,480
Speaker 1: your money, and you use your your your your But

2367
02:15:58,520 --> 02:16:01,400
Speaker 1: I can answer Jason, oh no, no, no, I'm not done.

2368
02:16:01,480 --> 02:16:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm not done. Whoever's mute here you I'm out Instagram.

2369
02:16:20,800 --> 02:16:27,160
Speaker 1: You can't say he's gonna go to Instagram. Okay, go ahead, Karen.

2370
02:16:27,240 --> 02:16:32,520
Speaker 1: And my statement back I got didn't see eye to eye,

2371
02:16:32,720 --> 02:16:35,280
Speaker 1: But the most recent stuff is confusing to me because

2372
02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:39,720
Speaker 1: I thought we apologize to one of them. I'm not

2373
02:16:39,800 --> 02:16:41,200
Speaker 1: the All you know is he poor and he wanted

2374
02:16:41,200 --> 02:16:42,520
Speaker 1: to get out the hood, and you promised he was

2375
02:16:42,520 --> 02:16:44,680
Speaker 1: gonna help him if he took He's refured to was

2376
02:16:44,680 --> 02:16:50,959
Speaker 1: not counscious. You can't say he's gonna go to Instagram. Okay,

2377
02:16:51,879 --> 02:16:55,800
Speaker 1: go ahead, Karen's come back when it comes to when

2378
02:16:55,879 --> 02:16:58,600
Speaker 1: it comes to Jason, I'm on my bullshit with Jason

2379
02:16:58,600 --> 02:17:02,080
Speaker 1: because me and Jason had a lot of so he's one. Yeah,

2380
02:17:02,200 --> 02:17:05,120
Speaker 1: he's one who's absolutely right. He's absolutely right in a

2381
02:17:05,200 --> 02:17:07,920
Speaker 1: certain sense, not with all of it. Yes, we were neighbors.

2382
02:17:08,120 --> 02:17:10,400
Speaker 1: You didn't fully help me with my credit. Sean Scales

2383
02:17:10,520 --> 02:17:12,560
Speaker 1: is actually helping me with my credit now and has

2384
02:17:12,680 --> 02:17:15,800
Speaker 1: been for the last few years. So you posted something,

2385
02:17:15,959 --> 02:17:18,039
Speaker 1: you posted something Me and Jason would have our back

2386
02:17:18,080 --> 02:17:20,040
Speaker 1: and forth because you know who he was, he was,

2387
02:17:20,240 --> 02:17:22,640
Speaker 1: who he was with, who I was with. Yes, and

2388
02:17:22,760 --> 02:17:27,480
Speaker 1: this gentleman here, can you guys hear me? Cool? And

2389
02:17:27,640 --> 02:17:29,960
Speaker 1: and the person he's referring to was not punch a

2390
02:17:30,040 --> 02:17:33,360
Speaker 1: TD that was somebody totally different. Yeah, this kid, this

2391
02:17:33,520 --> 02:17:35,959
Speaker 1: kid is a hacker. And to a point of yeah, Jason,

2392
02:17:36,240 --> 02:17:38,720
Speaker 1: you you playing this game? Yeah, I hit this nigga.

2393
02:17:38,800 --> 02:17:41,880
Speaker 1: Nobody promised him twenty thousand dollars, nobody proosted him a

2394
02:17:41,959 --> 02:17:45,320
Speaker 1: rap career, nothing like that. To double back and tell

2395
02:17:45,360 --> 02:17:48,640
Speaker 1: you some stuff you called he Jason called me about it.

2396
02:17:48,920 --> 02:17:51,760
Speaker 1: I admitted it to Jason. See that's what that's what

2397
02:17:51,920 --> 02:17:55,400
Speaker 1: he's not. I admitted it to Jason. Jason and I

2398
02:17:55,640 --> 02:18:00,520
Speaker 1: apologize to Jason. Gave Jason and the person's info at Instagram,

2399
02:18:00,920 --> 02:18:04,840
Speaker 1: got him verified. Thought it was cop aesthetic because afterwards

2400
02:18:05,000 --> 02:18:07,640
Speaker 1: Jason hit me about this fun and I thought we

2401
02:18:07,680 --> 02:18:10,440
Speaker 1: were cool. But yeah, he's absolutely right. Me and him

2402
02:18:10,520 --> 02:18:11,920
Speaker 1: did have a back and forth and it was a

2403
02:18:11,959 --> 02:18:14,000
Speaker 1: lot of shit. So when one person, so when he

2404
02:18:14,120 --> 02:18:16,680
Speaker 1: goes on his brand and his tangent and he's upset,

2405
02:18:16,840 --> 02:18:18,520
Speaker 1: he got it right to be upset. Me and him

2406
02:18:18,520 --> 02:18:20,640
Speaker 1: would go back and forth the war because that's one

2407
02:18:20,680 --> 02:18:22,959
Speaker 1: person I'll agree on. Me and him didn't see eye

2408
02:18:23,000 --> 02:18:25,600
Speaker 1: to eye. But the most recent stuff is confusing to

2409
02:18:25,680 --> 02:18:29,400
Speaker 1: me because I thought we apologized the same time. I can't.

2410
02:18:29,720 --> 02:18:32,280
Speaker 1: His hurt doesn't have an expiration date, so I can't

2411
02:18:32,320 --> 02:18:37,960
Speaker 1: be mad at him for that. But there are a

2412
02:18:38,000 --> 02:18:40,720
Speaker 1: few things he was There was no clarity that wasn't

2413
02:18:40,760 --> 02:18:43,600
Speaker 1: punch of tde Nobody told this little kid twenty thousand

2414
02:18:43,640 --> 02:18:45,640
Speaker 1: dollars because this kid is still in my inbox now

2415
02:18:45,920 --> 02:18:48,160
Speaker 1: trying to ask me for music, play his music and

2416
02:18:48,240 --> 02:18:50,640
Speaker 1: everything else. No one gave this kid any false hope.

2417
02:18:50,800 --> 02:18:53,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, Jason is right on that. I told Jason

2418
02:18:53,360 --> 02:18:55,720
Speaker 1: to take something down. It has nothing to do at

2419
02:18:55,760 --> 02:18:57,720
Speaker 1: this time. It wasn't with Walter. I have him to

2420
02:18:57,840 --> 02:19:00,200
Speaker 1: take something down that was personal with a client. He

2421
02:19:00,400 --> 02:19:02,360
Speaker 1: did it, and I did what I had to do,

2422
02:19:02,800 --> 02:19:05,880
Speaker 1: and I apologize. It got back to Jason. Jason called

2423
02:19:05,959 --> 02:19:08,400
Speaker 1: me upset, fripping, like, why the funk would you do this?

2424
02:19:08,520 --> 02:19:10,840
Speaker 1: This is how I eat. I can own my bullshit

2425
02:19:10,959 --> 02:19:16,080
Speaker 1: for that. How I apologize to him. We spoke on

2426
02:19:16,160 --> 02:19:18,120
Speaker 1: the phone. He probably did record it and you can

2427
02:19:18,200 --> 02:19:20,360
Speaker 1: hear my apology on it, and I gave it to him.

2428
02:19:20,600 --> 02:19:22,960
Speaker 1: Then Nip's funeral happened. I gave him tickets to that.

2429
02:19:23,080 --> 02:19:25,720
Speaker 1: I thought we spoke to each other at Hollywood at

2430
02:19:25,760 --> 02:19:27,960
Speaker 1: an event. I thought it was cool than the most

2431
02:19:28,040 --> 02:19:31,400
Speaker 1: recent videos. I know he don't get along with other bloggers,

2432
02:19:31,680 --> 02:19:34,560
Speaker 1: and I'm assuming for my take, I thought he thought

2433
02:19:34,560 --> 02:19:37,640
Speaker 1: I teamed up with them. NA how Jason felt before

2434
02:19:37,720 --> 02:19:40,480
Speaker 1: that was his feelings. But I apologize to him. But again,

2435
02:19:40,600 --> 02:19:43,560
Speaker 1: like I said, certain times hurting got an exploration date.

2436
02:19:43,680 --> 02:19:45,480
Speaker 1: So he's allowed to feel how he want to feel.

2437
02:19:45,680 --> 02:19:47,920
Speaker 1: But my but, but my conscience is clear from it

2438
02:19:48,000 --> 02:19:50,440
Speaker 1: because I apologize to him on the fall. So what

2439
02:19:50,680 --> 02:19:54,600
Speaker 1: was who was? Who was next? I think I know

2440
02:19:54,920 --> 02:19:57,160
Speaker 1: Jointer Lucas is in here. You're gonna touch on that

2441
02:19:57,240 --> 02:20:00,520
Speaker 1: because it is said that sixty thousand from that man. No,

2442
02:20:00,720 --> 02:20:06,200
Speaker 1: I know, people whatever they felt, but I don't want

2443
02:20:06,200 --> 02:20:09,320
Speaker 1: this to be attack on everyone just so they was.

2444
02:20:09,600 --> 02:20:12,080
Speaker 1: You know, I just wanted to play that for the context.

2445
02:20:12,120 --> 02:20:14,879
Speaker 1: So that's the part that they're speaking about when they

2446
02:20:14,920 --> 02:20:18,240
Speaker 1: said she's a she did admit to having that page

2447
02:20:18,360 --> 02:20:21,640
Speaker 1: tooking down. Um. When I listened back to it, it

2448
02:20:21,840 --> 02:20:26,160
Speaker 1: still kind of feels like a generalization. UM. I did

2449
02:20:26,280 --> 02:20:29,200
Speaker 1: what I had to do. UM, I reached out to

2450
02:20:29,320 --> 02:20:32,400
Speaker 1: this guy. You know, so it's it's still kind of broad.

2451
02:20:32,440 --> 02:20:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it was a if that could

2452
02:20:34,560 --> 02:20:39,880
Speaker 1: be tooking as an admission. With so many different ways, Um,

2453
02:20:40,680 --> 02:20:42,680
Speaker 1: of how you can get a page took it down

2454
02:20:42,800 --> 02:20:45,760
Speaker 1: just by like like what Jason Lee said, violating terms

2455
02:20:45,800 --> 02:20:48,760
Speaker 1: and conditions and those kind of things. Having someone looking

2456
02:20:48,840 --> 02:20:53,320
Speaker 1: to the page. Um, it's different than doing something illegal,

2457
02:20:53,800 --> 02:20:55,800
Speaker 1: you know, to the page or I don't know if

2458
02:20:55,840 --> 02:20:58,200
Speaker 1: it's illegal. I'm not sure it's violating the terms and

2459
02:20:58,320 --> 02:21:01,840
Speaker 1: conditions to have took down by hacky would I would

2460
02:21:01,879 --> 02:21:07,520
Speaker 1: think so Jason Lee went ahead and after that he said, um,

2461
02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:10,160
Speaker 1: a few other things. Of course, you keep hearing mentioned

2462
02:21:10,160 --> 02:21:13,320
Speaker 1: a breakfast club because it works away in this game.

2463
02:21:13,360 --> 02:21:17,360
Speaker 1: As I continue to explain to my audience, is that

2464
02:21:17,520 --> 02:21:20,120
Speaker 1: in this game, you have to have cultural cloud, you

2465
02:21:20,200 --> 02:21:24,400
Speaker 1: have to have culture equity. They have to stand by

2466
02:21:24,600 --> 02:21:27,120
Speaker 1: someone has to stand by your name or stand by

2467
02:21:27,200 --> 02:21:29,560
Speaker 1: your product, or you can build it yourself, but your

2468
02:21:29,600 --> 02:21:34,440
Speaker 1: product has to have a certain level of credibility in

2469
02:21:34,560 --> 02:21:40,040
Speaker 1: the marketplace. A lot of times, a lot of times

2470
02:21:40,760 --> 02:21:45,360
Speaker 1: we find ourselves, you know, those of us that's trying

2471
02:21:45,400 --> 02:21:47,600
Speaker 1: to get in the game and in that space where

2472
02:21:48,160 --> 02:21:50,440
Speaker 1: we all doing the same thing, but we're now being

2473
02:21:50,480 --> 02:21:53,640
Speaker 1: paid to do it. We find ourselves in a situation

2474
02:21:53,800 --> 02:22:00,440
Speaker 1: where you try to figure out. You know, it's a

2475
02:22:00,600 --> 02:22:02,640
Speaker 1: dance of trying to figure out. That's why it's so

2476
02:22:02,840 --> 02:22:05,880
Speaker 1: much money being handed from guys on this side of

2477
02:22:05,920 --> 02:22:08,000
Speaker 1: the wall to that side of the wall in hopes

2478
02:22:08,040 --> 02:22:10,160
Speaker 1: of just getting on the other side of that wall.

2479
02:22:12,280 --> 02:22:14,320
Speaker 1: I do think that a lot of artists and people

2480
02:22:15,160 --> 02:22:22,880
Speaker 1: have unrealistic expectations in regards to when they hire someone.

2481
02:22:23,000 --> 02:22:26,960
Speaker 1: Now that's just trying to help them with brand building.

2482
02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:30,360
Speaker 1: That's why I think with Instagram and social media, so

2483
02:22:30,520 --> 02:22:34,280
Speaker 1: many people are able to feed their families. And it's

2484
02:22:34,360 --> 02:22:38,240
Speaker 1: because it's clear about the results you're gonna get. Right,

2485
02:22:38,280 --> 02:22:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm not promising you anything. It's gonna be five thousand

2486
02:22:41,120 --> 02:22:43,160
Speaker 1: dollars to post on this page. You can see how

2487
02:22:43,240 --> 02:22:46,360
Speaker 1: many people are engaged on this page. I can't do

2488
02:22:46,480 --> 02:22:50,960
Speaker 1: anything to influence this. I'm just gonna post what you

2489
02:22:51,120 --> 02:22:55,600
Speaker 1: send in me. They got it easy because it's clear.

2490
02:22:55,720 --> 02:23:00,920
Speaker 1: Five hundred four twenty four hour posts story five thousand

2491
02:23:01,080 --> 02:23:05,280
Speaker 1: for a front page post for two weeks. This that

2492
02:23:05,360 --> 02:23:07,520
Speaker 1: in the third campaign for this month, right, So they

2493
02:23:07,600 --> 02:23:09,960
Speaker 1: got it they got it easy. It's clear cut. But

2494
02:23:10,160 --> 02:23:12,760
Speaker 1: sometimes in the industry, when someone tells you they're gonna

2495
02:23:12,800 --> 02:23:16,400
Speaker 1: get you blogged placements and they're gonna get you radio

2496
02:23:16,560 --> 02:23:19,840
Speaker 1: interviews and things like that, a lot of that is

2497
02:23:19,920 --> 02:23:22,879
Speaker 1: contingent on your content too, right, because when they get

2498
02:23:22,879 --> 02:23:26,440
Speaker 1: you that first one and no one reacts, they can

2499
02:23:26,520 --> 02:23:28,800
Speaker 1: get you another one, but you have to continue. You

2500
02:23:28,840 --> 02:23:31,800
Speaker 1: got to keep paying. What you hope happens is you

2501
02:23:31,920 --> 02:23:34,480
Speaker 1: pay for that first two full five rounds of it,

2502
02:23:35,120 --> 02:23:37,440
Speaker 1: and then people get it, gain an interest in you

2503
02:23:37,560 --> 02:23:39,200
Speaker 1: to just be like, you know what I'm gonna see.

2504
02:23:39,600 --> 02:23:41,760
Speaker 1: I like when they post about this, dude, they just

2505
02:23:42,000 --> 02:23:45,120
Speaker 1: engage with it, you see what I'm saying. And what

2506
02:23:45,320 --> 02:23:48,360
Speaker 1: happens sometimes is you spend that money, nobody engages and

2507
02:23:48,440 --> 02:23:52,360
Speaker 1: they try to keep forcing it, you know, and they

2508
02:23:52,480 --> 02:23:55,320
Speaker 1: call let they call let trying to just build your brand,

2509
02:23:55,760 --> 02:23:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, So when someone if someone takes your social

2510
02:23:59,200 --> 02:24:02,040
Speaker 1: media down, and what you are doing that five thousand

2511
02:24:02,120 --> 02:24:04,920
Speaker 1: a day or not a day of post, you know,

2512
02:24:05,400 --> 02:24:08,160
Speaker 1: or fifteen hundred post, five hundred of posts, but you

2513
02:24:08,200 --> 02:24:11,080
Speaker 1: get twenty these a day in your inbox type thing.

2514
02:24:11,720 --> 02:24:17,520
Speaker 1: That that's a that's a lot of revenue. Um, I'm

2515
02:24:17,600 --> 02:24:21,760
Speaker 1: not sure why Karen thought that that dude would tuck that.

2516
02:24:24,160 --> 02:24:26,920
Speaker 1: You understand, I probably would always feel like after I've

2517
02:24:26,959 --> 02:24:29,199
Speaker 1: done that and you found out about that, I would

2518
02:24:29,240 --> 02:24:31,920
Speaker 1: always probably feel like it'll It's like when a dude

2519
02:24:32,040 --> 02:24:35,360
Speaker 1: cheat on this girl, sometime she might as well ended

2520
02:24:35,480 --> 02:24:38,240
Speaker 1: sometimes when she find that out, depending on that dude,

2521
02:24:38,320 --> 02:24:41,200
Speaker 1: because now even though he was in the wrong, he

2522
02:24:41,400 --> 02:24:45,160
Speaker 1: know he in his mind, there's a situation that can

2523
02:24:45,240 --> 02:24:47,880
Speaker 1: occurred anytime, and you can point in that direction of

2524
02:24:48,000 --> 02:24:52,000
Speaker 1: my failure to justify yours in that time, you know,

2525
02:24:52,160 --> 02:24:57,600
Speaker 1: and so um people tend to run from that. Um.

2526
02:24:57,680 --> 02:25:00,400
Speaker 1: But but in that brand building process, man, it's just

2527
02:25:00,520 --> 02:25:02,880
Speaker 1: a funny thing that happens, and you try your best

2528
02:25:02,959 --> 02:25:05,200
Speaker 1: to build a brand in a way where like me

2529
02:25:05,360 --> 02:25:08,560
Speaker 1: with my brand right now, I'm lucky because people are

2530
02:25:08,600 --> 02:25:12,640
Speaker 1: looking at my brain and just being like, this is

2531
02:25:12,680 --> 02:25:16,400
Speaker 1: a brand that's like real you get game from They

2532
02:25:16,400 --> 02:25:19,400
Speaker 1: don't even they ain't even saw the part of you know,

2533
02:25:19,480 --> 02:25:22,800
Speaker 1: I come from I come from East Cageville, east Side,

2534
02:25:24,120 --> 02:25:27,200
Speaker 1: So they ain't even saw the part where we just

2535
02:25:27,360 --> 02:25:31,080
Speaker 1: get into the you know, just the wittiness with the

2536
02:25:31,200 --> 02:25:33,560
Speaker 1: funny and just being you know what I'm they ain't

2537
02:25:33,600 --> 02:25:36,840
Speaker 1: even saw that. They're just seeing this little bit of it. Right.

2538
02:25:36,959 --> 02:25:41,080
Speaker 1: So it's a lot going on in regards to these things, man.

2539
02:25:41,200 --> 02:25:45,720
Speaker 1: But still you can be doing everything on the other

2540
02:25:45,800 --> 02:25:49,080
Speaker 1: side of the wall and never make a dime. That's

2541
02:25:49,120 --> 02:25:53,840
Speaker 1: the scary part. That's the scary part. I see some

2542
02:25:54,000 --> 02:25:56,600
Speaker 1: people now been doing it forever. I ain't made a dame.

2543
02:25:56,720 --> 02:25:58,720
Speaker 1: Let's listen to a little bit more again, I should

2544
02:25:59,040 --> 02:26:02,480
Speaker 1: she shouldn't have uh acknowledged it, but I think she

2545
02:26:02,680 --> 02:26:08,520
Speaker 1: did speak in generalizations. That doesn't necessarily pinpoint anything um

2546
02:26:09,120 --> 02:26:12,160
Speaker 1: as an admission. As far as a mission is concerned,

2547
02:26:15,920 --> 02:26:22,360
Speaker 1: he hires you, you do not. I have that. I

2548
02:26:22,480 --> 02:26:27,039
Speaker 1: have to realize, I have to remember, and I need

2549
02:26:27,120 --> 02:26:32,640
Speaker 1: to push back, which I'm taking home eleven twelve. I'm mad.

2550
02:26:32,720 --> 02:26:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm not running around here trying to I'm like, damn,

2551
02:26:35,440 --> 02:26:37,040
Speaker 1: Karen's a way to go. At the time, I was

2552
02:26:37,120 --> 02:26:41,760
Speaker 1: fucked up. I had an investor either already. So shortly

2553
02:26:41,840 --> 02:26:46,120
Speaker 1: after this, Jason Lee went on Breakfast Club and he

2554
02:26:46,240 --> 02:26:49,160
Speaker 1: said some things about Joe Budden. Said Joe Budden been

2555
02:26:49,200 --> 02:26:52,199
Speaker 1: mentioned in them. Um. This would be the last part

2556
02:26:52,240 --> 02:26:54,600
Speaker 1: of this little segment we'll spend out of this, get

2557
02:26:54,680 --> 02:26:57,520
Speaker 1: into one or two more things, and then we'll go, um,

2558
02:26:57,680 --> 02:27:00,120
Speaker 1: give me just a second, we'll pull it up. We

2559
02:27:00,200 --> 02:27:02,440
Speaker 1: went back and forth on that. That's kind of gangster.

2560
02:27:02,480 --> 02:27:10,640
Speaker 1: You gotta admit. I respect it. I've done a lot

2561
02:27:10,680 --> 02:27:14,040
Speaker 1: of things in my life. I wouldn't I've done a

2562
02:27:14,080 --> 02:27:16,440
Speaker 1: lot of things in my life Now I always know

2563
02:27:16,520 --> 02:27:18,760
Speaker 1: who I'm dealing with when I'm dealing with people. If

2564
02:27:18,800 --> 02:27:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, you're dealing with somebody who ain't afraid to

2565
02:27:22,200 --> 02:27:26,520
Speaker 1: say anything, don't have no industry politics holding him back,

2566
02:27:26,600 --> 02:27:28,959
Speaker 1: owns his own brand, can say whatever the fuck he wants,

2567
02:27:29,040 --> 02:27:30,840
Speaker 1: and you know, now you got caught. I would have

2568
02:27:30,920 --> 02:27:34,000
Speaker 1: lied to the end of the day. She knew I

2569
02:27:34,120 --> 02:27:36,640
Speaker 1: had the receipts because I told her, so she owned it.

2570
02:27:36,800 --> 02:27:39,560
Speaker 1: And you know, if she was um, if she wanted

2571
02:27:39,600 --> 02:27:42,280
Speaker 1: to be uh, you know, because you know now she's

2572
02:27:42,320 --> 02:27:44,320
Speaker 1: online talking real spicy, how she's a hood bitch and

2573
02:27:44,320 --> 02:27:46,080
Speaker 1: all this, and then that's great because they're gonna love

2574
02:27:46,120 --> 02:27:49,760
Speaker 1: her in prison. I think that when she said it,

2575
02:27:49,920 --> 02:27:52,120
Speaker 1: I was sitting there looking like, okay, cool, So I

2576
02:27:52,200 --> 02:27:54,440
Speaker 1: said to her, cool, I appreciate you being honest, but

2577
02:27:54,520 --> 02:27:56,080
Speaker 1: just notice I don't know when and where, but I'm

2578
02:27:56,080 --> 02:27:58,920
Speaker 1: gonna fucking get you. I'm gonna get you. I don't

2579
02:27:58,920 --> 02:28:00,480
Speaker 1: know how what was this? When did you find out

2580
02:28:00,520 --> 02:28:02,200
Speaker 1: that it was her? How long ago was this? This

2581
02:28:02,360 --> 02:28:05,600
Speaker 1: was in two eighteen eighteen, Oh, Dancy, I've been sitting

2582
02:28:05,640 --> 02:28:07,240
Speaker 1: on this so I taid I'm gonna get you. I

2583
02:28:07,280 --> 02:28:08,760
Speaker 1: ain't said it. I came up here. I wanted to

2584
02:28:08,760 --> 02:28:11,160
Speaker 1: say it's so bad because I wanted her to never

2585
02:28:11,240 --> 02:28:13,000
Speaker 1: be able to come and sit in this seat again.

2586
02:28:13,120 --> 02:28:16,840
Speaker 1: This is a privilege on my things I want to accomplish.

2587
02:28:16,920 --> 02:28:19,600
Speaker 1: When I started Hollywood, Unlocked, Wendy Show, Breakfast Club, they

2588
02:28:19,640 --> 02:28:21,440
Speaker 1: were all on my lessons. I started checking them off,

2589
02:28:21,480 --> 02:28:23,120
Speaker 1: and I did it all based on hard work. I

2590
02:28:23,280 --> 02:28:25,200
Speaker 1: knew you for a long time. I never asked can

2591
02:28:25,240 --> 02:28:26,640
Speaker 1: I come? Can I come? I didn't do all that.

2592
02:28:26,680 --> 02:28:29,440
Speaker 1: I didn't send gifts, I didn't send money. I earned

2593
02:28:29,520 --> 02:28:33,120
Speaker 1: my spot here, and I feel like when you come

2594
02:28:33,160 --> 02:28:36,080
Speaker 1: to this show, it's because you earned your spot. You

2595
02:28:36,120 --> 02:28:37,880
Speaker 1: don't just let everybody come up here for her. When

2596
02:28:37,920 --> 02:28:40,560
Speaker 1: she would come up here, I would be so frustrated.

2597
02:28:41,040 --> 02:28:43,400
Speaker 1: I told Karen in twenty and eighteen, I don't know

2598
02:28:43,520 --> 02:28:45,320
Speaker 1: when and how but I'm gonna get you. That was

2599
02:28:45,360 --> 02:28:47,440
Speaker 1: a cut fast forward. I get off a while and out.

2600
02:28:47,680 --> 02:28:49,840
Speaker 1: I come back to LA and I'm out. I'm out,

2601
02:28:49,959 --> 02:28:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm out. I go to penthouse. I walk in Arnold Turner's.

2602
02:28:53,560 --> 02:28:56,080
Speaker 1: They're taking photos and I walked directly into Karen Civil

2603
02:28:56,320 --> 02:28:57,800
Speaker 1: and she says, can I talk to you? Can I

2604
02:28:57,879 --> 02:28:59,320
Speaker 1: talk to you? And mind you? I haven't seen her

2605
02:28:59,360 --> 02:29:02,200
Speaker 1: since our conversation, and I said to her, I don't

2606
02:29:02,240 --> 02:29:04,160
Speaker 1: have nothing to say to you. Arnold says, I get

2607
02:29:04,160 --> 02:29:05,680
Speaker 1: a picture with you too. I said, I'm not taking

2608
02:29:05,760 --> 02:29:07,400
Speaker 1: picture of her. I'm never gonna be another picture with

2609
02:29:07,440 --> 02:29:10,040
Speaker 1: this woman. She sits down and she begs me to

2610
02:29:10,080 --> 02:29:13,080
Speaker 1: forgive her. Please, Jason, please, just like, let's get past this.

2611
02:29:13,640 --> 02:29:16,600
Speaker 1: You know, I own my shit. You know we this

2612
02:29:16,800 --> 02:29:18,720
Speaker 1: and this. You're in the culture. I'm in the culture

2613
02:29:19,040 --> 02:29:22,160
Speaker 1: and I and it hit me. Okay, she actually thinks

2614
02:29:22,160 --> 02:29:23,560
Speaker 1: I will forgive her, So I said, you know what,

2615
02:29:24,680 --> 02:29:27,080
Speaker 1: give me some time to think about it. I appreciate

2616
02:29:27,200 --> 02:29:30,320
Speaker 1: you being humble and really ask him. Let me think

2617
02:29:30,320 --> 02:29:32,160
Speaker 1: about it, because we do have a relationship. But in

2618
02:29:32,280 --> 02:29:33,800
Speaker 1: my mind, I was saying, oh no, no, no, no, no,

2619
02:29:33,959 --> 02:29:36,720
Speaker 1: no no, went home, I prayed on it, and then

2620
02:29:36,760 --> 02:29:38,959
Speaker 1: I hit her. I said, you know what, Karen, you're right.

2621
02:29:39,680 --> 02:29:42,520
Speaker 1: We worked really hard to be a part of this

2622
02:29:42,640 --> 02:29:45,400
Speaker 1: culture and it needs us. You have the brand zon Lock,

2623
02:29:45,600 --> 02:29:47,880
Speaker 1: I got the let's work together. You're right, And I

2624
02:29:48,000 --> 02:29:51,160
Speaker 1: disarmed her, and from that point on she would call me, Hey,

2625
02:29:51,440 --> 02:29:53,360
Speaker 1: I need Tiffany Hatters to give us a quote for

2626
02:29:53,480 --> 02:29:57,000
Speaker 1: Nipsey's funeral, his memorial. But not a problem. Let me

2627
02:29:57,040 --> 02:30:00,720
Speaker 1: call Tiffany. Hey, Tiffany, they would like a quote for

2628
02:30:00,800 --> 02:30:04,800
Speaker 1: you for Nipsey Hustles memorial. Tiffany, as you know, it's

2629
02:30:04,800 --> 02:30:07,160
Speaker 1: a good friend of ours, beautiful person in which represents

2630
02:30:07,200 --> 02:30:09,240
Speaker 1: her country loves and nip I love Nipsey Hustle and

2631
02:30:09,280 --> 02:30:12,760
Speaker 1: what he represents for um, for the culture. Just given

2632
02:30:12,879 --> 02:30:15,960
Speaker 1: contexts to the situation and we'll move on. So I

2633
02:30:16,000 --> 02:30:17,960
Speaker 1: would do anything for Nipsey. This was not for her.

2634
02:30:18,160 --> 02:30:20,119
Speaker 1: So I did it, and then in doing it, I said,

2635
02:30:20,160 --> 02:30:21,840
Speaker 1: Tiffany would like to come to the memorial. Can we

2636
02:30:21,879 --> 02:30:24,240
Speaker 1: get a couple of tickets. Tiffany then couldn't come. I

2637
02:30:24,400 --> 02:30:28,640
Speaker 1: am ended up going there left all of that, so

2638
02:30:28,800 --> 02:30:31,160
Speaker 1: she thought we were friends this whole time, Like hold on,

2639
02:30:31,240 --> 02:30:33,640
Speaker 1: what did God tell you when you prayed, Jason, God

2640
02:30:33,760 --> 02:30:38,320
Speaker 1: remembered to tell me that although vengeance is his sometimes

2641
02:30:38,480 --> 02:30:40,360
Speaker 1: on Earth, you gotta, you know, you gotta set up

2642
02:30:40,400 --> 02:30:42,720
Speaker 1: situations for people to get their own karma. This is

2643
02:30:42,800 --> 02:30:45,200
Speaker 1: what happened. I didn't go and burn down the internet

2644
02:30:45,240 --> 02:30:46,640
Speaker 1: with the Karens and this because if I would have

2645
02:30:46,640 --> 02:30:48,880
Speaker 1: said it, nobody would have believed me. Nobody would have

2646
02:30:48,879 --> 02:30:50,680
Speaker 1: believe me. That'd been like no way Karen civil with

2647
02:30:51,040 --> 02:30:53,720
Speaker 1: with Hillary Clinton. It would have called me a hater.

2648
02:30:53,840 --> 02:30:56,119
Speaker 1: They would have said he's hating black women. They say

2649
02:30:56,160 --> 02:30:59,160
Speaker 1: everything about me. I was fat, they said, and I'm

2650
02:30:59,200 --> 02:31:03,520
Speaker 1: sure Hillary has the email the tooth. I mean, Karen

2651
02:31:03,560 --> 02:31:07,800
Speaker 1: probably did that too, allegedly. Here's the deal. When I

2652
02:31:07,920 --> 02:31:09,640
Speaker 1: was fat, they say he's gonna die of a heart attack.

2653
02:31:09,680 --> 02:31:11,280
Speaker 1: I lost all the weight. They said he had HIV,

2654
02:31:11,800 --> 02:31:13,840
Speaker 1: I said. They asked me what my preference and dating was.

2655
02:31:13,920 --> 02:31:15,920
Speaker 1: I said, a light skin dominic and they say he's

2656
02:31:15,959 --> 02:31:18,320
Speaker 1: a colors. I said that a trans woman shouldn't have

2657
02:31:18,440 --> 02:31:21,240
Speaker 1: any opinion over the body of a female when it

2658
02:31:21,320 --> 02:31:24,199
Speaker 1: comes to pregnancy. I'm transphobic. If I say I date younger,

2659
02:31:24,240 --> 02:31:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm a pedophile. When I tell the nigga I won't

2660
02:31:26,360 --> 02:31:27,680
Speaker 1: fuck him to put him on Love and Hip Hop.

2661
02:31:27,800 --> 02:31:30,120
Speaker 1: He said I was too aggressive him and a louse

2662
02:31:30,200 --> 02:31:32,840
Speaker 1: to wanting to rape him. They've said everything about me.

2663
02:31:33,240 --> 02:31:35,840
Speaker 1: They've said everything about me, and I never defended myself

2664
02:31:35,920 --> 02:31:38,879
Speaker 1: because I learned a long time ago that the savage

2665
02:31:38,920 --> 02:31:40,760
Speaker 1: always wins. So just be that savage because this is

2666
02:31:40,760 --> 02:31:42,360
Speaker 1: what the people wanted. So I kept giving the people

2667
02:31:42,360 --> 02:31:45,760
Speaker 1: what they wanted, and I took every hit, and I said,

2668
02:31:46,040 --> 02:31:47,880
Speaker 1: I was just gonna let them say whatever they want

2669
02:31:47,920 --> 02:31:52,320
Speaker 1: about me until this year and with Karen this past weekend,

2670
02:31:53,320 --> 02:31:55,200
Speaker 1: when people wanted me to get online and drave hers,

2671
02:31:55,240 --> 02:31:57,240
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, this is vindication in many

2672
02:31:57,280 --> 02:32:00,520
Speaker 1: ways and also validation. Whack was texting me, I'm driving

2673
02:32:00,520 --> 02:32:02,720
Speaker 1: down the street in Miami. Get on clubhouse, get on

2674
02:32:02,760 --> 02:32:05,800
Speaker 1: clubhouses going down. So I get on clubhouse and she's

2675
02:32:05,840 --> 02:32:08,440
Speaker 1: having this whole conversation. And what I think the people

2676
02:32:08,480 --> 02:32:12,920
Speaker 1: are missing is, you know, they have selective cancelation. Karen

2677
02:32:13,000 --> 02:32:18,879
Speaker 1: Siville was in a clubhouse chat. Then she's confronted Jesse

2678
02:32:19,000 --> 02:32:22,920
Speaker 1: Will and did this whole you know his text messages

2679
02:32:22,920 --> 02:32:25,000
Speaker 1: about Nikki this and that she really it's just a

2680
02:32:25,120 --> 02:32:27,760
Speaker 1: lot going on with the situation. I'm really I'm ready

2681
02:32:27,760 --> 02:32:30,520
Speaker 1: to move on. So um again, if you won't want

2682
02:32:30,560 --> 02:32:32,400
Speaker 1: to really dig in it a little more, you can

2683
02:32:32,480 --> 02:32:34,760
Speaker 1: go do that on your own. It's up the podcast

2684
02:32:35,240 --> 02:32:37,640
Speaker 1: or we got to talk about a lot of different things, man,

2685
02:32:37,720 --> 02:32:39,800
Speaker 1: because we got a lot of different people tapped and

2686
02:32:39,879 --> 02:32:42,520
Speaker 1: trying to get some game with different subjects, and we

2687
02:32:42,640 --> 02:32:44,520
Speaker 1: want to bring that to the coach and bring that

2688
02:32:44,600 --> 02:32:47,160
Speaker 1: to the people, right, So that's important we do. I

2689
02:32:47,240 --> 02:32:52,720
Speaker 1: also want to talk about Andrew Wiggins. Andrew Wiggins is

2690
02:32:52,760 --> 02:32:57,080
Speaker 1: in a situation where he's now at risk to lose

2691
02:32:57,160 --> 02:33:00,959
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars if he don't take the vaccine he's

2692
02:33:02,200 --> 02:33:07,080
Speaker 1: bear in which they have him because he plays in

2693
02:33:07,160 --> 02:33:10,640
Speaker 1: San Francisco and California. Has I think they've pushed some

2694
02:33:10,800 --> 02:33:16,080
Speaker 1: sort of legiglation in place to where there's some sort

2695
02:33:16,120 --> 02:33:20,199
Speaker 1: of penalty for not getting the vaccine at this point,

2696
02:33:20,520 --> 02:33:24,400
Speaker 1: you know, from a proactive standpoint, I guess they call

2697
02:33:24,560 --> 02:33:29,280
Speaker 1: that they're trying to approach it, and I guess hunker

2698
02:33:29,360 --> 02:33:31,760
Speaker 1: down on people who coming out there, living out there

2699
02:33:31,879 --> 02:33:35,199
Speaker 1: what you can do if you're out there without that vaccine.

2700
02:33:35,360 --> 02:33:39,840
Speaker 1: So again, if he doesn't get it, he doesn't get

2701
02:33:39,879 --> 02:33:43,600
Speaker 1: to play, which in turn means he loses fifteen million

2702
02:33:43,720 --> 02:33:52,080
Speaker 1: dollars this year. A sticky situation to be in. For

2703
02:33:52,240 --> 02:33:55,520
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars. Do you take the vaccine? It's the

2704
02:33:55,680 --> 02:34:00,800
Speaker 1: question most people say, yeah. I say, yeah, I think

2705
02:34:00,840 --> 02:34:02,959
Speaker 1: for fifteen me and I might take it. I think

2706
02:34:03,040 --> 02:34:06,360
Speaker 1: I ain't sure though, but I may take it for fifteen,

2707
02:34:07,320 --> 02:34:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, But I don't think not taking it is

2708
02:34:09,440 --> 02:34:14,360
Speaker 1: a reflection on me being like hard to work with

2709
02:34:14,600 --> 02:34:17,880
Speaker 1: and things like that, because again, I think the vaccine

2710
02:34:18,240 --> 02:34:22,600
Speaker 1: is a very unique situation. You know, a lot of

2711
02:34:22,680 --> 02:34:27,000
Speaker 1: people have has hesitation dealing with it simply because the number.

2712
02:34:27,120 --> 02:34:30,760
Speaker 1: It just it's not enough time in between it. Right now,

2713
02:34:30,800 --> 02:34:33,039
Speaker 1: I think as far as they did the best they

2714
02:34:33,080 --> 02:34:37,080
Speaker 1: could do, you know, in regards to the calm and

2715
02:34:37,160 --> 02:34:41,480
Speaker 1: black person, the calm and white guy, the calm and Asian, right,

2716
02:34:41,760 --> 02:34:46,560
Speaker 1: they took that in consideration. But again, human beings get

2717
02:34:46,720 --> 02:34:49,920
Speaker 1: very intricate, and there's so many variables that you miss

2718
02:34:50,000 --> 02:34:52,080
Speaker 1: and don't think about. Oh I didn't think about that,

2719
02:34:52,800 --> 02:34:56,160
Speaker 1: and people pay for those. Oh I didn't think about that, right,

2720
02:34:56,760 --> 02:35:02,360
Speaker 1: So so yeah, I mean, and then also another point,

2721
02:35:02,400 --> 02:35:05,840
Speaker 1: I want to make just about the vaccine is I

2722
02:35:06,000 --> 02:35:12,320
Speaker 1: think that if everyone knew the real medical position, then

2723
02:35:12,440 --> 02:35:15,000
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have a real issue. The problem when you're

2724
02:35:15,040 --> 02:35:18,760
Speaker 1: dealing with black people and African Americans, especially ones in

2725
02:35:18,840 --> 02:35:24,480
Speaker 1: the ghetto, in the hood, impoverished in poverty. A lot

2726
02:35:24,560 --> 02:35:27,080
Speaker 1: of those people in those areas walk around on a

2727
02:35:27,240 --> 02:35:31,560
Speaker 1: daily not knowing their real medical position, simply because financially

2728
02:35:32,120 --> 02:35:34,840
Speaker 1: they don't have the ability to even explore the medical

2729
02:35:34,920 --> 02:35:40,360
Speaker 1: attention needed to even know where you really stand in

2730
02:35:40,520 --> 02:35:46,000
Speaker 1: regards to your medical position. I mean, you don't. These

2731
02:35:46,080 --> 02:35:48,400
Speaker 1: people don't know until something happens. A lot of a

2732
02:35:48,440 --> 02:35:52,800
Speaker 1: lot of people fall out, they find out they had diabetes.

2733
02:35:53,440 --> 02:35:55,960
Speaker 1: A lot of people pass out one day even or

2734
02:35:56,040 --> 02:35:59,360
Speaker 1: doing something, find out they got seizures. It ain't because

2735
02:35:59,440 --> 02:36:01,480
Speaker 1: they cant to lead the doctor. A lot of a

2736
02:36:01,560 --> 02:36:07,400
Speaker 1: lot of these things in our community are reactionary. And

2737
02:36:07,560 --> 02:36:10,440
Speaker 1: how that ties into the point is is that again,

2738
02:36:10,800 --> 02:36:14,360
Speaker 1: if you don't know your real medical position, then you

2739
02:36:14,480 --> 02:36:17,959
Speaker 1: don't know whether or not the vaccine has been tested

2740
02:36:18,000 --> 02:36:21,120
Speaker 1: for your type of individual. Right. We know, again the

2741
02:36:21,280 --> 02:36:24,840
Speaker 1: common person, great, y'all got that, But what about the

2742
02:36:25,280 --> 02:36:29,480
Speaker 1: black guy that's a little overweight the smoke but then

2743
02:36:29,680 --> 02:36:33,360
Speaker 1: stop and has lupus. And you know, just certain little

2744
02:36:33,840 --> 02:36:37,600
Speaker 1: those scenarios that's happening inside of people. And again it's

2745
02:36:37,640 --> 02:36:41,680
Speaker 1: happening without people knowing. I know people that know they're

2746
02:36:41,680 --> 02:36:45,600
Speaker 1: sick and ain't been to the doctor. You see what

2747
02:36:45,680 --> 02:36:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's it just be a lot going on, man,

2748
02:36:48,640 --> 02:36:52,200
Speaker 1: And I think that it's it's unreasonable to think that

2749
02:36:52,520 --> 02:36:55,520
Speaker 1: when we are hesitant to take the vaccine that it

2750
02:36:55,680 --> 02:37:02,280
Speaker 1: stands for we're hesitant to you know, being American or

2751
02:37:02,360 --> 02:37:05,800
Speaker 1: be you know, a part of America, because don't get

2752
02:37:05,840 --> 02:37:08,280
Speaker 1: it twisted. It is it is the best country. It

2753
02:37:08,440 --> 02:37:12,879
Speaker 1: is the best country. Now, Opportunity and everything lives here

2754
02:37:12,920 --> 02:37:15,560
Speaker 1: in a way that's just different, you know what I'm saying.

2755
02:37:15,920 --> 02:37:18,080
Speaker 1: It lives in other places too, but this is this

2756
02:37:18,240 --> 02:37:22,560
Speaker 1: country here is is it's a powerful country, you know,

2757
02:37:22,800 --> 02:37:25,879
Speaker 1: and so um, it doesn't that it's not a reflection

2758
02:37:26,080 --> 02:37:33,120
Speaker 1: of us not being uh aware that we you know,

2759
02:37:33,360 --> 02:37:37,560
Speaker 1: in the privileged country you understand, or or that we

2760
02:37:38,160 --> 02:37:43,680
Speaker 1: are being rebellious for no reason. It's a situation where

2761
02:37:43,720 --> 02:37:47,360
Speaker 1: people are afraid, and when we are afraid, and you

2762
02:37:47,520 --> 02:37:52,440
Speaker 1: buckle down even more it's say whoa again. People don't

2763
02:37:52,480 --> 02:37:56,640
Speaker 1: know their real medical position, so I don't know how

2764
02:37:56,720 --> 02:37:58,560
Speaker 1: this is going to react to me. They got one

2765
02:37:58,600 --> 02:38:00,600
Speaker 1: of them and said, well, if you had blood clots,

2766
02:38:00,680 --> 02:38:02,480
Speaker 1: then this will happen to you. I don't know if

2767
02:38:02,520 --> 02:38:04,720
Speaker 1: I had blood clots. I ain't been to the doctor.

2768
02:38:05,440 --> 02:38:07,800
Speaker 1: Not me because I'm I go to the doctor. But

2769
02:38:07,879 --> 02:38:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying a lot of people in my community, they

2770
02:38:11,400 --> 02:38:15,480
Speaker 1: don't know these things. You know, And then y'all have

2771
02:38:15,720 --> 02:38:22,880
Speaker 1: no y'all don't streamline information. Y'all think everybody's coming to

2772
02:38:23,000 --> 02:38:25,040
Speaker 1: y'all to get it, and that's just not how it's

2773
02:38:25,080 --> 02:38:28,320
Speaker 1: working no more. That's why you have narratives to get

2774
02:38:28,360 --> 02:38:32,200
Speaker 1: as big as they get. You understand, It's because it

2775
02:38:32,360 --> 02:38:35,240
Speaker 1: don't have to start on that platform in that area

2776
02:38:35,360 --> 02:38:38,520
Speaker 1: no more. Now we control what happens with it and

2777
02:38:38,640 --> 02:38:42,000
Speaker 1: what you know, how people view it. You understand me.

2778
02:38:42,080 --> 02:38:44,400
Speaker 1: And then, like I said, it's just the standpoint where

2779
02:38:44,440 --> 02:38:47,000
Speaker 1: we're afraid, and you gotta respect that. In my opinion,

2780
02:38:47,879 --> 02:38:52,039
Speaker 1: I do think though that like medicine does, with time,

2781
02:38:52,160 --> 02:38:55,000
Speaker 1: they'll get it. They'll get it right, you know what

2782
02:38:55,040 --> 02:38:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying to where it's it's more of a broader thing.

2783
02:38:57,920 --> 02:39:00,240
Speaker 1: And they are certain things that come back and they'll say, oh,

2784
02:39:00,360 --> 02:39:02,200
Speaker 1: we didn't consider that, we didn't think of it. How

2785
02:39:02,240 --> 02:39:05,680
Speaker 1: we missed that, you know, but it'll do more good

2786
02:39:05,760 --> 02:39:09,879
Speaker 1: than it than it does bad. But again, in our community,

2787
02:39:09,920 --> 02:39:12,520
Speaker 1: a lot of us don't know our medical position. Oh

2788
02:39:13,080 --> 02:39:15,480
Speaker 1: this is my last topic in our mouth. Let's talk

2789
02:39:15,480 --> 02:39:19,240
Speaker 1: about Djacademics podcast for those of you don't know. UM.

2790
02:39:20,440 --> 02:39:24,560
Speaker 1: For those of you that maybe under where, Djacademics podcast

2791
02:39:24,720 --> 02:39:29,400
Speaker 1: has now launched on Spotify. Um, he's now had UM

2792
02:39:29,720 --> 02:39:33,640
Speaker 1: outside of the Takashi and Whack episode and the shot

2793
02:39:33,720 --> 02:39:36,120
Speaker 1: it when we don't count those those are like pilots,

2794
02:39:36,160 --> 02:39:42,400
Speaker 1: he's had two epis, three episodes. He's had him by hisself.

2795
02:39:43,920 --> 02:39:47,160
Speaker 1: I think or I think it was Rich the kid,

2796
02:39:48,320 --> 02:39:55,000
Speaker 1: It's home board and him by itself. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2797
02:39:55,000 --> 02:39:57,440
Speaker 1: I think that whatever it was, it's three episodes in

2798
02:39:57,879 --> 02:40:02,320
Speaker 1: and U I think he's I think he's in a.

2799
02:40:02,440 --> 02:40:06,320
Speaker 1: He's a he's in a. This is the thing about

2800
02:40:06,400 --> 02:40:08,880
Speaker 1: this is this medias man. He's in a hell of

2801
02:40:08,959 --> 02:40:13,040
Speaker 1: a spot because he got to make sure that he

2802
02:40:13,200 --> 02:40:15,680
Speaker 1: brained rappers up there right now. They messed with him

2803
02:40:15,720 --> 02:40:19,320
Speaker 1: to set the standard you heard me about six weeks

2804
02:40:19,360 --> 02:40:21,920
Speaker 1: ago say that, oh, I see what he's doing. He

2805
02:40:22,120 --> 02:40:25,359
Speaker 1: using he leveraging, which is great, that's what you're supposed

2806
02:40:25,360 --> 02:40:29,400
Speaker 1: to do. But he's leveraging the Instagram to get people

2807
02:40:29,440 --> 02:40:33,320
Speaker 1: to come with the podcast. I said that in reaction

2808
02:40:33,440 --> 02:40:38,080
Speaker 1: to the to the Chief Keith thing, when Chief Keith

2809
02:40:38,200 --> 02:40:40,160
Speaker 1: kind of gave him, you know, left him on red

2810
02:40:40,400 --> 02:40:42,160
Speaker 1: or something, and then he kind of went off on it.

2811
02:40:42,959 --> 02:40:46,200
Speaker 1: So I said that he gotta be careful because what

2812
02:40:46,360 --> 02:40:48,960
Speaker 1: he can do is he can make the rap dude

2813
02:40:49,040 --> 02:40:51,200
Speaker 1: snap me in and say, oh we see what ACT doing.

2814
02:40:52,000 --> 02:40:54,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's go up there. But we ain't giving

2815
02:40:54,160 --> 02:40:58,160
Speaker 1: him nothing. We ain't giving him nothing. Were badly talking.

2816
02:40:58,280 --> 02:41:00,800
Speaker 1: We gonna sign him a little bit when ain't doing nothing.

2817
02:41:01,120 --> 02:41:05,000
Speaker 1: And that's a problem. And Act is quick. And one

2818
02:41:05,040 --> 02:41:08,000
Speaker 1: thing about Academics audience and then people shout out the

2819
02:41:08,120 --> 02:41:12,800
Speaker 1: Grand Wizard or whatever his name is, Academics homeboy, grand

2820
02:41:12,879 --> 02:41:16,480
Speaker 1: chat Wizard or whatever his name is. I've been watching him.

2821
02:41:16,600 --> 02:41:21,800
Speaker 1: He's he really the one. He really can run several

2822
02:41:21,920 --> 02:41:26,560
Speaker 1: platforms by his self. If anybody knows somebody like him,

2823
02:41:26,640 --> 02:41:30,680
Speaker 1: I would like to hire them a Grand Wizard. If

2824
02:41:30,720 --> 02:41:34,120
Speaker 1: you got somebody that you know that kind of is

2825
02:41:34,240 --> 02:41:36,480
Speaker 1: the same as you send them my way, I want

2826
02:41:36,520 --> 02:41:39,320
Speaker 1: to hire them. And I'm telling I mean this DM me.

2827
02:41:39,760 --> 02:41:41,800
Speaker 1: But he's a guy that puts a lot of content

2828
02:41:41,920 --> 02:41:46,000
Speaker 1: together for ACT and has his Instagram page really is

2829
02:41:46,080 --> 02:41:48,520
Speaker 1: like I'm like, yo, this can be a hip hop

2830
02:41:48,640 --> 02:41:52,520
Speaker 1: Instagram page, like this is dope. He has a lot

2831
02:41:52,560 --> 02:41:55,240
Speaker 1: of time. He references movies in it like memes like

2832
02:41:55,360 --> 02:41:59,560
Speaker 1: it's dope. He do his thing. Nonetheless, Ac was leveraging

2833
02:41:59,720 --> 02:42:03,520
Speaker 1: his his Instagram to get people on the podcast. But

2834
02:42:03,720 --> 02:42:07,240
Speaker 1: again I said, what people gonna end up start doing

2835
02:42:07,320 --> 02:42:11,400
Speaker 1: it coming up there and not giving him nothing. And

2836
02:42:11,920 --> 02:42:15,400
Speaker 1: again ACT is in a great position. Oh, this the

2837
02:42:15,480 --> 02:42:17,640
Speaker 1: point I was making. He listens to his fan base,

2838
02:42:18,120 --> 02:42:20,600
Speaker 1: He's interactive with them people, and they gonna keep it

2839
02:42:20,680 --> 02:42:22,879
Speaker 1: real with him. Your ristery kids, sunds you, your risky

2840
02:42:22,959 --> 02:42:24,920
Speaker 1: kids treating you bad, Your ristery kid acting like he

2841
02:42:24,959 --> 02:42:27,920
Speaker 1: didn't want to be there. So he's he's able to

2842
02:42:28,240 --> 02:42:30,760
Speaker 1: hit his people, telling him some people are too up there,

2843
02:42:30,840 --> 02:42:34,040
Speaker 1: they don't even get the soul that part of academics.

2844
02:42:34,120 --> 02:42:37,040
Speaker 1: I gotta make sure that even if it's not me,

2845
02:42:37,200 --> 02:42:40,800
Speaker 1: I keep somebody that's in tune with that because them

2846
02:42:40,879 --> 02:42:43,560
Speaker 1: people are telling you what they're viewing, what it looked like.

2847
02:42:43,640 --> 02:42:46,520
Speaker 1: I ain't talking about the trolls. You know, the same

2848
02:42:46,720 --> 02:42:50,039
Speaker 1: name has been in there since four five years ago,

2849
02:42:50,560 --> 02:42:53,120
Speaker 1: These same little names popping up. Your people know who

2850
02:42:53,200 --> 02:42:55,360
Speaker 1: they are, you know what I'm saying. So you get

2851
02:42:55,400 --> 02:42:57,480
Speaker 1: the start, and then they start saying, yo, he tried.

2852
02:42:57,520 --> 02:43:00,600
Speaker 1: He kind of treated you bad bro, you know, such

2853
02:43:00,640 --> 02:43:03,039
Speaker 1: and such a he said this. That wasn't cool, he said,

2854
02:43:03,040 --> 02:43:05,520
Speaker 1: And then you know he's sunning you, bro, he's sunny.

2855
02:43:05,600 --> 02:43:08,880
Speaker 1: You know, they're putting your boots on. So At came

2856
02:43:08,920 --> 02:43:12,600
Speaker 1: out and said, yo, first his first episode audio messed up,

2857
02:43:12,600 --> 02:43:15,440
Speaker 1: and they fixed it, shut out Spotify fixing that that

2858
02:43:15,680 --> 02:43:18,000
Speaker 1: wasn't cool, though, they wanted to make sure that when

2859
02:43:18,040 --> 02:43:20,720
Speaker 1: they came out that was fixed. I'm sure At had

2860
02:43:20,720 --> 02:43:24,840
Speaker 1: a conversation with somebody behind the scene because again, his brand,

2861
02:43:25,760 --> 02:43:27,840
Speaker 1: you know, and Spotify they don't want their brand to

2862
02:43:27,959 --> 02:43:30,440
Speaker 1: do that either, So I'm sure they fixed it. As

2863
02:43:30,480 --> 02:43:32,160
Speaker 1: I said, I don't even know how they fixed it.

2864
02:43:32,920 --> 02:43:35,320
Speaker 1: When it came out, I d m him like, yo, yo,

2865
02:43:35,520 --> 02:43:38,840
Speaker 1: yo audio bad bro. You need to and then he

2866
02:43:38,959 --> 02:43:42,120
Speaker 1: posted yo spotify those about the audio. They're fixing it,

2867
02:43:42,240 --> 02:43:44,680
Speaker 1: and then my man, I'm like fixing it, You're gonna

2868
02:43:44,680 --> 02:43:47,080
Speaker 1: have to scrap this episode, bro, it's no fixing that.

2869
02:43:47,680 --> 02:43:51,800
Speaker 1: And they fixed it. It took the whole little vibration

2870
02:43:51,920 --> 02:43:53,920
Speaker 1: noise out of it. I said, y'all know how they

2871
02:43:54,120 --> 02:43:58,520
Speaker 1: done that. But it worked. But nonetheless, he's in a

2872
02:43:58,680 --> 02:44:04,000
Speaker 1: very unique situation. Academics and um I also academics better

2873
02:44:04,080 --> 02:44:09,760
Speaker 1: hope that um the podcast doesn't devalue the Instagram, which

2874
02:44:09,800 --> 02:44:11,600
Speaker 1: I think it would be hard to do, but it

2875
02:44:11,879 --> 02:44:17,440
Speaker 1: is a possibility. It's a possibility, you know, so he

2876
02:44:17,560 --> 02:44:20,200
Speaker 1: gotta be careful with that. His latest episode, he had

2877
02:44:20,200 --> 02:44:24,360
Speaker 1: a couple of his uh twitch YouTube buddies up there

2878
02:44:24,400 --> 02:44:26,560
Speaker 1: and it was more like a like almost like a

2879
02:44:26,680 --> 02:44:29,720
Speaker 1: chat room. So you know, maybe there's a market for that,

2880
02:44:29,879 --> 02:44:33,320
Speaker 1: will see. Um I always told y'all the interview thing

2881
02:44:33,520 --> 02:44:37,600
Speaker 1: is is it's tricky because who you're talking to got

2882
02:44:37,720 --> 02:44:40,400
Speaker 1: to respect your mind. They gotta respect your game and

2883
02:44:40,560 --> 02:44:44,040
Speaker 1: even want to hear what you might be saying. You

2884
02:44:44,360 --> 02:44:46,160
Speaker 1: you didn't had to have see it something at some

2885
02:44:46,360 --> 02:44:48,959
Speaker 1: point to make them say, oh that was that was okay?

2886
02:44:50,160 --> 02:44:53,320
Speaker 1: Or day Respecting your game. So they're sitting down with

2887
02:44:53,440 --> 02:44:55,640
Speaker 1: you looking at it. Richter Kidd were looking at his home,

2888
02:44:55,720 --> 02:44:58,640
Speaker 1: but like, what are you talking about? Man? Almost like

2889
02:44:58,760 --> 02:45:02,760
Speaker 1: his questions was done. You understand what I'm saying, and

2890
02:45:02,959 --> 02:45:05,960
Speaker 1: that's not good for the brand, and you don't want

2891
02:45:06,000 --> 02:45:08,760
Speaker 1: to just for the sake of having names on there,

2892
02:45:08,959 --> 02:45:12,200
Speaker 1: have that kind of content. So I see act trying

2893
02:45:12,240 --> 02:45:14,800
Speaker 1: to really set some stand up before we do the video. Bro,

2894
02:45:14,959 --> 02:45:17,240
Speaker 1: we have to have a conversation like it gotta be.

2895
02:45:18,040 --> 02:45:20,080
Speaker 1: I don't want it to be like that, you know

2896
02:45:20,120 --> 02:45:23,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and reach the kids said he with bullet.

2897
02:45:23,600 --> 02:45:25,680
Speaker 1: WHI y'all understand that, you know what I mean? Probably

2898
02:45:25,720 --> 02:45:30,760
Speaker 1: with bullet Nonetheless, Man, we're on the lookout. We'll be watching,

2899
02:45:30,920 --> 02:45:33,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, We'll be watching. I ain't

2900
02:45:33,080 --> 02:45:36,000
Speaker 1: so yeah, man. So thank everybody that they washed up

2901
02:45:36,040 --> 02:45:40,040
Speaker 1: into this point again. Go to the t spring account,

2902
02:45:40,120 --> 02:45:43,039
Speaker 1: get you some merch. Shot us out on Instagram, Hit

2903
02:45:43,160 --> 02:45:46,200
Speaker 1: us up on Instagram, Hit us up on Facebook, hit

2904
02:45:46,280 --> 02:45:48,520
Speaker 1: us up on YouTube. Let us know you tapped in,

2905
02:45:48,760 --> 02:45:52,119
Speaker 1: Hit us up on TikTok, get tuned in, go stream.

2906
02:45:52,200 --> 02:45:53,680
Speaker 1: I was big Home on When You Met Me and

2907
02:45:53,800 --> 02:45:57,080
Speaker 1: my album loaning album is out right now. Stream more

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Speaker 1: and more podcasts. Let them stream while you sleep on.

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Speaker 1: Let them stream, just stream them. Get them numbers up,

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Speaker 1: Let them numbers get up. Man. So um, well, appreciate

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Speaker 1: everybody that always tune in, tappy in and show us

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Speaker 1: Lord you are now rocking with the biggest One. It's

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Speaker 1: up that podcast. This is not the Joe Button podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is not million dollars worth the game, This is

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Speaker 1: not the brilliant idiots. This is each up their podcast

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Speaker 1: with Looney. Thank everybody for listening. Y'all have a blessed day.

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Speaker 1: You've been rocking with the biggest One. You're gonna walk

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Speaker 1: out out to do today. Hope y'all have a good one.

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Speaker 1: What to get with y'all? Man, we appreciate that everybody

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Speaker 1: that tune in it's up that podcast, ring number thirty

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Speaker 1: six in the world. You are now locked in. You

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Speaker 1: can't say everybody next week. Let's gold. Appreciate the love, y'all.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate the love. It's up that podcast, tap being

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Speaker 1: tap in, walking everybody to the door. Appreciate y'all it's

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Speaker 1: up that podcast. But it's up there podcast