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Speaker 2: welcome to the Nodunks podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: February nineteenth, twenty twenty five. I'm Jay Skeats here in

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Speaker 2: That's right. If you're looking for any and all of

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Speaker 2: and Sunday podcast. We're moving on from All Star Weekends.

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Speaker 2: I can't listen or read anything more about this. Today, though,

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Speaker 2: we are once again going to rank all thirty NBA teams.

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Speaker 2: Our guy John Schumann, I don't know if he's in

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Speaker 2: the live stream right now. He says that sixty six

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Speaker 2: percent of the regular season is complete, so the home

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Speaker 2: Mark Williams Bowl, exactly exciting. That's where we're at two

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Speaker 2: when we do our rankings here, we use the tier Maker,

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Speaker 2: So Title Contenders is our top tier. Then we have

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Speaker 2: the final four flirts, and we got the playoff locks

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Speaker 2: did this in the preseason. Yeah, and here is how

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Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference we usually do. Who's our first team, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And the one there's a new wrinkle they're doing. That's

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Speaker 1: But the Brooklyn Nets are our next candidate. They're twelfth

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Speaker 3: a new category for this team. This is a playoff spoiler.

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Speaker 1: The old spoiler spoil.

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Speaker 2: Well, I didn't know if you meant they're going to

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Speaker 2: know you like the Nets, Okay, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: Not an easy win in March.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they beating the Rockets twice this month, beating the Heat.

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Speaker 3: They've beaten the Sixers, who aren't good.

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Speaker 1: Nor are the Heat. Teams are under five hundred, but

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Speaker 2: Where are we putting them though, so you said, I mean,

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Speaker 1: They're right on the cusp. They're either at the top

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Speaker 2: Third in the season.

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Speaker 1: Because they made trades so that they could be bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, for now I'm fine putting them Obviously, they'll

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Speaker 2: But like you know, we're gonna get to the bulls,

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Speaker 1: Well, they're gonna be getting some company there in the

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Speaker 2: Seekers, Yes, with a bullet Unfortunately, weird stat from Schumann.

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Speaker 2: They have more wins and a better record against the

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Speaker 1: That makes sense to me. The bad teams in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta try a little bit strong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I guess maybe Charles Lee gets them excited.

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Speaker 3: And I just put a way too much faith in

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Speaker 3: some things. Well, those ankles are going to be entirely different,

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Speaker 3: So it's difficult even think about how playing spot for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, LaMelo out for a lot of time, Brandon Miller

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Speaker 1: we never talk about. H and Mark Williams. The guy's

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Speaker 3: And he's playing tonight against the Tonight Baby.

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Speaker 2: Connect versus him.

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Speaker 1: They should just let them play one on one.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, get out of the way.

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Speaker 1: Matched up a little bit, Luca, the Hornets, you could

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Speaker 1: use a they could use a good draft pick here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they picked maybe the worst first round guy. Well, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, there's some bad guys in the top ten,

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Speaker 1: but tu Johan Salon. Have you seen a minute of him?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Brutal? Is he worse than Cody Williams. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Let me know, those guys are both bad.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Here, we got this team's in the play and it's

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bulls. They're twenty two and twenty three, what

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Speaker 3: Baby twenty two and twenty three? You have hope for

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Speaker 3: them to be a five hundred team.

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Speaker 2: That can't be.

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Speaker 3: No, it's twenty thirty three.

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Speaker 2: Chopped off ten loss.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because we all hope that even in.

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Speaker 1: My dream, they're still underfinals. That's crazy, bro.

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Speaker 2: Three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I looked into it to see if they're the

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Speaker 3: right now they're on the pace to be the worse.

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Speaker 3: But the twenty twenty two Spurs were thirty four and

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Speaker 3: forty eight and made it. That stinks. That was a

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Speaker 3: Calvin Johnson, denvesel de john Tey Murray YAKA PERTL Joshua

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Speaker 3: back back, baby back for the Philadelphia seventy six ers,

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Speaker 3: had that NBA buyout with his Lithuanian team and he's

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Speaker 3: back squeezing it in sixers. Will try until the end

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Speaker 3: those sign anybody, anybody come on by?

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Speaker 2: Where do you have the bulls?

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Speaker 1: Are they playing hopeful or not even that they're playing hopefuls?

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Speaker 1: They hope they're in the playoffs every single year? Is

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Speaker 1: it smart?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Are they gonna hit the lottery because it's rigged. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: you can't take them out. That's the only There's two

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Speaker 1: games left on the Bulls calendar as far as I'm concerned,

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Speaker 1: the nine to ten playoff game and the draft lottery.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Those are the only two games they are

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Speaker 3: That's fair. You can't take them up because the Sixers, Nets,

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Speaker 3: and Bead's gonna be healthy. Yeah, sure, he's going to

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Speaker 3: be back to that guy who won MVP. I mean,

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Speaker 3: how can you pick the Sixers or the Nets or

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Speaker 2: The Rappers could well, yeah, if you're giving me the

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Speaker 2: Chicago Bulls like that where they finally do trade some

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Speaker 2: to speak of, like let's be bad. Yeah, they'll probably

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Speaker 2: put together a nice, like slick, little four game win

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Speaker 1: They don't need a four game win streak. The teams

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Speaker 1: and a half straight and then nobody can catch and

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Speaker 1: nobody's catching them. The Sixers beat the Bulls and still

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Speaker 1: can't catch them. It doesn't make sense because they're tanking,

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Speaker 1: they're trying to lose their pick, or they're trying to

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Speaker 1: keep their pick. Yeah, nobody knows it. The Cleveland Cavaliers,

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Speaker 1: they're first in the Eastern Conference forty four and ten,

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Speaker 1: first in offense, eighth and defense, second in net rating.

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Speaker 1: These fellas, they're title contenders.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, they are most surprising team in the league.

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Speaker 2: Do you think, like when you compare them to what

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Speaker 1: We had them as playoff locks, right, Yeah, that's two

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Speaker 3: Now, they are going to try a bunch of different

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Speaker 3: to get it to five, got to get to five.

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Speaker 3: So that's what's going to happen throughout these games. Kenny

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Speaker 3: Atkinson is going to try different stuff. As he said,

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Speaker 3: you work on a playoff adjustment a day. He said,

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Speaker 3: he stole that from Tylo. Tyleru used to say that.

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Speaker 3: And maybe it's fitting that the Calves here at the

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Speaker 3: to say that the Calves took a tenth ranked defense

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Speaker 3: maybe that's a good sign for these Calves going in

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Speaker 3: the future here. But yeah, when they played the Celtics

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Speaker 3: on this month when they play once more time, one

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Speaker 3: more time, I should.

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Speaker 2: And there's a reason why they obviously went and got

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Speaker 2: Hunter at the trade deadline, yep, you know, for some

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Speaker 2: That makes sense. Their offense has been elite this year.

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Speaker 2: five from all three spots on the floor. That's wild.

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Speaker 2: They shoot over sixty one percent in the paint, that's

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Speaker 2: from the mid range that ranks fifth, and then they're

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Speaker 2: the best three point shooting team in the league still

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Speaker 2: at thirty nine point three percent. So to do it

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Speaker 2: across inside, mid range and three pointer that's pretty damn impressive.

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Speaker 2: They have an awesome assist a turnover ratio. They're just

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Speaker 2: damn good offensively. Can that defense like tick tick up?

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Speaker 2: And then it's really just like can they beat the Celtics?

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Speaker 2: Can they beat the Celtics? And you know, maybe they

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Speaker 2: match up with the Knicks too, Like I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's a given that they steamroll a good Knicks team

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Speaker 2: and maybe some of these other teams. But it's like,

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Speaker 2: are we like on a path to just get Celtics

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Speaker 2: versus Calves in a conference finals? Let's say it sure

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Speaker 2: feels that way. I don't know if somebody can play spoiler,

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Speaker 2: but I just don't know if they can beat the

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Speaker 2: Celtics four to seven times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right, that's the question for me. I think

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Speaker 1: the seven game series last year, went to game seven,

436
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,600
Speaker 1: and like the Magic were not a very good team.

437
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,959
Speaker 1: But obviously the Caves have leveled up some this year

438
00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 1: and they got the continuity and you know, lose, then win,

439
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:26,879
Speaker 1: then lose, and then maybe you just keep winning.

440
00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see.

441
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,240
Speaker 1: But I got them personally behind the Celtics as title contenders.

442
00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,159
Speaker 2: I like how like like these quotes you're saying tasks

443
00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,960
Speaker 2: and like you hear from the guys on the team too.

444
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 2: I do love I like their their mindset, Like it

445
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,920
Speaker 2: sure feels like they believe they can go very far

446
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,879
Speaker 2: and win this championship, but without jumping steps and needing

447
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,960
Speaker 2: to get better and knowing that the championship you gotta

448
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 2: go through Boston. Still in the East, A last. So

449
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 2: I like all that. You know, yeah, they're not that

450
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,639
Speaker 2: type of team that's like puffing out their chests and

451
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 2: like we're already the best.

452
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 1: And like that.

453
00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 3: Yea, all they talk about is communicating. That's need in

454
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Yetta talk, it's good, but it's good to

455
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 3: talk about talking.

456
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,200
Speaker 2: Toughest thing to teach a bunch of kids playing basketball

457
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 2: talk to each other.

458
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 1: You gotta talk, you gotta talk out there.

459
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's so weird. Everyone's like just dead silent.

460
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 2: Talk on defense, talk on off and say you're open

461
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 2: screen left. Yeah, man, exactly, we're talkers. We talk all

462
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 2: the time. TK wall.

463
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 1: We play talk too much then would probably.

464
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we definitely did better talk than not talk

465
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Speaker 2: at all.

466
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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. You want to make some noise out there.

467
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 1: Another team making noise in the Eastern Conference. Let's talk

468
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,680
Speaker 1: about him. Number six in the East, the Detroit Pistons.

469
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,440
Speaker 1: Twenty nine and twenty six. They are I think that's

470
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Speaker 1: fifteenth in offense, it might be an eighteen. I think

471
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Speaker 1: it's a fifteen, eleventh in defense, and fifteenth in net rating.

472
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Speaker 2: I like that. You're like an old timey reporter.

473
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:49,680
Speaker 1: Like this pretty cool look at this. I got basketball texture.

474
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Speaker 2: He's got a notepad to me podcast.

475
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Speaker 1: It's pretty pretty sweet. Look, I turned forty one, I'm

476
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Speaker 1: going back to basics.

477
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

478
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Speaker 2: Is the reason because we're using your computer for the

479
00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 2: tear making? Yeah?

480
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, be switching back and forth between windows here,

481
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 1: it's wonderful.

482
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 3: That's just a great little notebook to have. The pebbled covers.

483
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't drop it accidentally, very very nice.

484
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 3: Chriss. Yeah, I think I misplaced mine. I was disappointed.

485
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 2: I don't know where mine is either. After senors.

486
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 3: I got them pistols I never got.

487
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 2: I don't know how he got this bad. I don't know.

488
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 3: Like the copyright, that's surprising. It's because once you turn

489
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Speaker 3: forty you get one. Yeah, JD, I missed it.

490
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yours is just a big old rock rock. Okay.

491
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Speaker 2: The pistols where we put the playing hopeful or.

492
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Speaker 1: A level above?

493
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Speaker 2: Is that crazy? Do you think I would?

494
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Speaker 3: I would throw them in there. I know it's a

495
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 3: bit of a reach at this point, but they are

496
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Speaker 3: sixed here and it's gonna be tough to hold it

497
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 3: the rest of the way. But I've got faith. It's

498
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 3: just simple as that the schedule isn't extremely easy for them,

499
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Speaker 3: but I think they want to do it. I think

500
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Speaker 3: they've got an internal flame in that locker room that

501
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 3: keeps them going. I think they've got the energy. I

502
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 3: think they got the flame, yes, yes, within it. I

503
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 3: think it's it's Isaiah Stewart. He's their flame. He's their guy,

504
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 3: He's their energy. And that's a good thing.

505
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Speaker 2: Love.

506
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Speaker 3: I love that guy. Even though you look at him

507
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 3: and you say, whoa, he's a little a little off

508
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 3: and you look kind him at times. But that's what

509
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 3: you need, right, that's what you need.

510
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 2: You need the one crazy guy on your team for sure. Yeah,

511
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 2: they're on a four game win streak and all four

512
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 2: of those wins were by double digits as they headed

513
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Speaker 2: into the All Star breaks. So we'll find in their

514
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: groove a little bit. Already. Have twice as many wins

515
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 2: as they had all last season is amazing they have,

516
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 2: Like you said, twenty nine already they were fourteen and

517
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Speaker 2: sixty eight. They have not made the playoffs since twenty

518
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Speaker 2: eighteen nineteen. Can you tell me a little trivia here?

519
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Speaker 2: The starting lineup for the eighteen nineteen Pistons in Game

520
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 2: one against the Bucks. Now, I'm gonna tell you right now,

521
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 2: there was no Blake Griffin, if you remember, he missed

522
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: a couple of games. But just give me the starting

523
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Speaker 2: lineup for the Pistons in the twenty nineteen playoffs.

524
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Speaker 3: Reggie Jackson was Who's ready?

525
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 2: Jackson was one of their guards Wis Harris.

526
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Speaker 1: At that point.

527
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: Andre Drummond the big man. Yeah, there's another skinnier big man,

528
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Speaker 2: which I was like, what obviously was taking? I think

529
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Speaker 2: the spot of Blake Griffin in the starting line up started.

530
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Speaker 1: For Blake Griffin.

531
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Speaker 3: No, this guy's got a very memory, like a unique name,

532
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: Austin day. Besides one in five, I don't know who's

533
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 3: playing besides these guys. I don't know.

534
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Speaker 2: This guy is seven footer from South Sudan. I'm gonna

535
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Speaker 2: give you.

536
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: That fun maker. There you go, started started dude, Stanley Johnson.

537
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Speaker 2: No good, guess he played against a guy with.

538
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: A golden arm. Oh no way, Wayne Ellings.

539
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 2: Wayne Ellington and one more you'll never get to a telleries.

540
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 2: What a great day of Bruce Brown. Listen to that

541
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Speaker 2: starting lineup. Reggie Jackson, Bruce Brown, thn Maker, Wayne Ellington

542
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Speaker 2: and Andre Drummond.

543
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Speaker 1: Were they over five hundred.

544
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: They were forty one and forty one. Okay, I mean

545
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Speaker 2: Blake was ba I think, yeah, right, yeah, and he

546
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: came back in that series, but it was hurting. They

547
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 2: got swept by the Bucks.

548
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: He came back to pizza because it was the little

549
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 3: Caesars Arena that he came back for.

550
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 2: He did come back.

551
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the eternal flame they have burning. It's the

552
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Speaker 1: pilot light for the pizza.

553
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 2: Exciting.

554
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Speaker 1: Will the Pistons finish five hundred? They're twenty nine and

555
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: twenty six right now, so they got three games to

556
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Speaker 1: play with in the last thirty ish here, it seems

557
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: reasonable they will. I'm actually thinking they're a playoff lock

558
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: because they've got a two and a half game lead

559
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: on the Orlando Magic, who are currently in seventh. They've

560
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: been very disappointing since the calendar turned to twenty five.

561
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Speaker 1: Basically behind them are the Hawks, who knows if they're

562
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Speaker 1: going to ever be able to stream together enough games

563
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: to catch the Pistons. They're three games behind them. The Heat.

564
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it looked great since the trade deadline

565
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Speaker 1: either Detroit. For me, the end of the playoff locks.

566
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Speaker 1: Great season for them, great season for Kid Cunningham. I

567
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: got to eat some crow on this one. This guy's

568
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: been incredible this season. I'd say it has even been

569
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: better than Paula Boncaro has been fair. Wow.

570
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: Schumann says. The Pistons have nine rest advantage games left

571
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Speaker 2: on their schedule too, so seems good. That's good because

572
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: all these games are gonna matter. So okay, I'm with you, guys,

573
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: playoff locks already. Wow.

574
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've leveling up. They've got the eighteenth hardest schedule

575
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Speaker 3: the rest of it, does that matter? Well? I think

576
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Speaker 3: eighteenth just seems like okay, middle of the pack. I

577
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 3: think they've got a nice couple games against the Wizards

578
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 3: two victories, nice couple games against the Pelicans, two victories.

579
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 3: So they got there. You got thirty three wins. If

580
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Speaker 3: they're winning all four of those games, they're on their way.

581
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 3: They're on their way to be a five hundred team.

582
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Speaker 3: Good for them.

583
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Speaker 2: Incredible season so far. I love. It'd be fun just

584
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Speaker 2: for the to get in there as a sixth seed,

585
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Speaker 2: and I guess would be taken on probably looking at

586
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Speaker 2: the Knicks in that potential series.

587
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Speaker 3: Ye right, it's going to be three to six, going

588
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 3: to be Nicks Pistons. They want that week off that

589
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: you get if you do make a playoff team instead

590
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 3: of a playing team, so you can go hard into

591
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 3: New York. Lit by the flame that is Isaiah Stewart,

592
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 3: to go steal a game, to go steal one game

593
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 3: in New York. Great article on Isaiah Stewart and the

594
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 3: after school program that he's making happen in Detroit. Because

595
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 3: he's a cool dude. He's a cool dude. Love this guy.

596
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 3: Hunter Patterson wrote it for The Athletic great Stuff.

597
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Speaker 1: Our next competitor in the ranking list, the number four

598
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Speaker 1: seed currently Indiana Pacers thirty and twenty three, their ninth

599
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Speaker 1: in offense, twenty first in defense, fourteenth in net rating,

600
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Speaker 1: and I've had a nice little streak here. They've been

601
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: playing pretty well since I don't know, they kind of

602
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: fell by the wayside. I think at the beginning of

603
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 1: the season, Halliburton wasn't playing all that well. They seem

604
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: to kind of not figure out how their offense is

605
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: supposed to be functioning. They've really really turned it around.

606
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 2: Top five team in the league. I think since we've

607
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: turned to twenty twenty five, fourteen and five. Since January first,

608
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: after you said, like a very slow start of the season.

609
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: They rank eighth in offensive rating, ninth in defensive rating

610
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: over that same stretch. So they've unlocked something here, playing

611
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: like more like we saw from last year's Pacers. They're

612
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: a playoff lock. They're ahead of the Pistons.

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00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: Yep.

614
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Speaker 2: I think we're just debating whether you think they have

615
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: another conference finals run in them. Did they get lucky,

616
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: but could they be a nightmare matchup for some teams.

617
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: I'm pretty confident with just putting them at probably near

618
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: the top ish of the playoff locked here.

619
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they do have another level. I think

620
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 3: they're going to have a home series and the playoffs.

621
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 3: Think they're going to finish fourth. I think the fact

622
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 3: that Aaron Smith has come back now he's been back

623
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: for a bit, but they figured out what their defense

624
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 3: is and now so they're top six of Haliburn, Siaka

625
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 3: Mathin Turner and Nemhard and Nie Smith.

626
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 2: Nemhart's important to them too, totally. It's one of these players.

627
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: It's like your team is just way better when he's

628
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 2: out there.

629
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Speaker 1: That's part of the reason they were struggling early in

630
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: the season is Nie Smith and them Hard were out,

631
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: and I don't know, you would have to check the

632
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: numbers on this, but it seems to me like the

633
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: Pacers are probably like the eighteenth best defense through three

634
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: quarters and then they're awesome in the fourth quarter. They

635
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: basically just start pressuring the ball like crazy with mem

636
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: Hard and Nie Smith, and I've been able to flip

637
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: a lot of games in fourth quarters recently.

638
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the question is are they final four? So

639
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 3: I guess in the Eastern Conference, obviously it's the Celtics

640
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: and Cats are are gonna be there. The Knicks are

641
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: included in the final four. Ok I kind of have

642
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: to have four final fours, sort of, not really.

643
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm happy to keep it them here at the top

644
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: of the playoff bocks for now. The ways they go

645
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: to the conference finals last year? Was it injuries? Was it?

646
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: I mean they fortunate, they benefited, no doubt from injuries,

647
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: and they had the.

648
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: Bucks number last year. I think they're still beating the

649
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: Bucks this season.

650
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

651
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

652
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: Shoe notes that the Pacers play six of their first

653
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: seven post break games here at home.

654
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: Okay, so they.

655
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: Have a little home stretch here, but three of the

656
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: teams visit are some of the best teams in the West.

657
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: They have the Grizzlies, they have the Clippers, and they

658
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: have the Nuggets. So some good teams coming into their barn.

659
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: But again, they have a nice little stretch here, so

660
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: maybe you can put a little more separation those teams

661
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: chasing them. But you think they'll have a home court advantage, Yeah, No,

662
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: four five I think still playoff lock though.

663
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've played twenty two home games versus twenty nine

664
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: road games, so here we go.

665
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that'll that'll even out here after this postal.

666
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: Star Indiana one of the best arenas to call a barn,

667
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: I think. Helly, I love Filsons Barnish.

668
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's already a barn.

669
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, great stuff. No Barns in Miami. No, they're ninth

670
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference twenty five and twenty eight. They're

671
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: twenty second in offense, tenth and defense, seventeenth in net rating.

672
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: They obsolutely sent Jimmy Butler to the Warriors, got Andrew

673
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: Wiggins and Kyle Anderson, who I saw playing center for

674
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: this team. It turns out he's sticking with the Miami Heat.

675
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: Where do we got these fellas? They're playing team right now?

676
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's where they have to stay as

677
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: a play in hopeful.

678
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

679
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: I mean, look, they had the whole Jimmy Butler saga.

680
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: It's sort of it had an impact, I believe in

681
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: their season. But then they make the deal and they

682
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: sort of hit a little rough patch there right before

683
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: the All Star break. I think they lost four straight

684
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: and in doing that, they slipped from like sixth in

685
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference toninth, so down into the play in

686
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: and yeah, I have to keep them there. This is

687
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: one of like there's one of their worst seasons in

688
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: like the last ten years, which is you know, I

689
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 2: mean it's almost a compliment in a way. It's like,

690
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: I've been really good for a long time, but this

691
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: is not it. When you're talking about win percentage and

692
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: point differential and all that. Yeah, they'll probably be in

693
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: the plan, right, I don't see them like they're not

694
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: gonna lean into tanking or anything like that. I mean,

695
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: they're too far ahead of those other teams anyway.

696
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: Not in Miami. No, Miami, not after all that fighting

697
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: between Pat and Jimmy. You can't just say, hey, we

698
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: want to lose now after all that. It's it's an

699
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: interesting It's like a direct flop of the Indiana Pacers Pacers.

700
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: Depending on where when you're taking notes or what website

701
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: you're taking notes from Trey for the rankings, whether it's

702
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: Basketball Reference or NBA dot Com, the Pacers are ninth

703
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: in offense, twenty second in defense throughout the season, but

704
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: they're getting better defensively. There's no doubt they're getting way

705
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: better because their guys are getting healthier. The Heat are

706
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: twenty second in offense, eleventh in defense, but the offense

707
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: is getting worse without Jimmy Butler. And the question is

708
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: if Wiggins can become a consistent third score because the

709
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: defense is going to be good, but they just need

710
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: somebody outside of Tie and uh, I don't.

711
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: Know why I call Tyler Tie.

712
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 3: That's just a outside outside of Tyler and Bam, they

713
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: need a third guy and Wiggins just has to be

714
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: that guy.

715
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: I can't but I don't believe Wiggins. Clip of when

716
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: they like introduced them to the team and they had

717
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: some like heat Gala, did you guys see this? And

718
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: like they're all playing sort of instruments and they're all

719
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: on stage and it's just as Wiggins just sort of

720
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: not really knowing what to do, and he's sort of

721
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: hitting the drums. I can't get it out of my mind.

722
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: He just feels so in a place. For whatever reason.

723
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody knew what they were No, yeah,

724
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: everybody was just kind of like, what why are all

725
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 3: the players up there playing instruments?

726
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: Not like us in our first photo shoot for NBA

727
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: team that we all had to play fake instruments.

728
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: We should post that clip.

729
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: We're rocket like we knew what we were doing. Were

730
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: you were?

731
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: Was he on the recorder? I was playing a guitar.

732
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: I was on the drum. Drums. We also had a guitar.

733
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: Maybe you're a trumpet or something like that.

734
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: I don't remember. I think we took turn.

735
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: We didn't. We didn't.

736
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: Drums look like jazz music.

737
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: So okay, great stuff there. This is a team I

738
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: do not like to watch. I'm sorry, I just don't

739
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: They like play slow and you.

740
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: Got them above or below the Hawks? I put them

741
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: above right now, though they are below currently in the

742
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: standings by.

743
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: Wow one game wowoo yeah, sure, sure leave them there.

744
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: I got better health, I think, at least than the Hawks.

745
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: But if you're wearing red and black, you are you

746
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: are a play in team right now, the Milwaukee Bucks.

747
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: They're fifth in the Eastern Conference, twenty nine and twenty

748
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: four on the season. They go twelve twelve one offense,

749
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: defense net ratings per Basketball Reference. I'm a brand ambassador.

750
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm a brand ambassador for him, but not for NBA

751
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: dot Com. So that's where you're getting my stats from

752
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Bucks. Do you want to call them a

753
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: final four flirt? Do you have faith that Janna Santa

754
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: Tokumpo can make it happen?

755
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? They went three and three without Joannis. They're in

756
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: their final six before the All Star break.

757
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: That's good, and they said back healthy, he'll be good.

758
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: But they're relying so much on their third guy, whoever

759
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: that is. It's supposed to be Kyle Kuzma. Now, Kyle, Yeah,

760
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: I mean I ain't that ain't good.

761
00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: I think you just got engaged.

762
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: He did, Yes, he did, so congratulations.

763
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

764
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: Winnie Harlow said she's always wanted to live in Milwaukee,

765
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: so that's why they can finally get married.

766
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they they have. They have a good offense and

767
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 3: good defense. It's gonna but it just seems like there's

768
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 3: such a drop off. But after Yannis and the Lilers,

769
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: and there is they might get to the playoffs. They

770
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 3: will get to the playoffs, but it's just what kind

771
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: of series are those two guys having it Because it's

772
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 3: kind of like the team that wins the NBA Cup

773
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 3: as we've seen before, that doesn't drop off in the playoffs.

774
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 3: That's gonna happen here. I would put them below the

775
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 3: Indiana Pacers in the playoff locks because I do consider

776
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 3: them a playoff lock. But I'm taking the Pacers in

777
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: that series because it does feel like it does feel

778
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 3: like it's going to be a four or five. Those

779
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 3: two teams Indies my squad. I think they're getting better,

780
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 3: while the Bucks I don't see how they get better.

781
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you get into like, did they really

782
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: improve their lineup and the roster by swapping Chris Middleton

783
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: for Kyle Kuzma. You know we're gonna get a couple

784
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: of months here to see how that works. I just like,

785
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: if the Bucks are like hitting from deep, you like

786
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: their chances, but if they have one of those nights

787
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: that they're cold, they have no chance to win. They're like,

788
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 2: and I know you can you can say that about

789
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 2: a lot of teams in the NBA, Like, on any

790
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: given night, Oh you hate your threees, you're more likely

791
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: to win. But them, I feel more than any other team.

792
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 2: She has a stat to back it up, when they're

793
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: sub league average from deep in a game, like so

794
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: thirty six percent, let's call it, they're three and fourteen, Like,

795
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: they just almost never win those games where they're three pointers,

796
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: not at least hitting at an above average sort of rate.

797
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: So this is a team I'm torn on. Of course,

798
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: you could see Yannis like taking a team to a

799
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: conference finals run or whatever, maybe even other finals run,

800
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: but you don't have all that much faith in it

801
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: compared to these other teams that feel like they have

802
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: just a better roster and can beat you in different

803
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: ways at the top of the East. So yeah, they're

804
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: a playoff lock. But I like where you put them,

805
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: slotting them behind the pacer.

806
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny that they're a twelfth offense twelfth defense,

807
00:35:59,160 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 3: which is good.

808
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: They're good.

809
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: They're good, but I don't inspire you. Yeah, especially with

810
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: Kuzma as their third option. He hasn't been good this season.

811
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: He hasn't been good with Milwaukee shooting twenty two percent

812
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: from three. Does he get the engagement bump.

813
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 2: Ooh play watch.

814
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: I've been playing with a concern in his heart. She said, yes, yeah,

815
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: flying now let it now?

816
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 2: Let it rip? Yeah, got your girl, let it rip.

817
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 3: That's good.

818
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: It could be a short Keep your eye on that.

819
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 2: He catches fire here.

820
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 1: We're doing it to be very funny.

821
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he flew across this country with an engagement ring

822
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: in his pocket. That's the rumor. He had it on him.

823
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: He was nervous. Am I going to lose it? Why

824
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: would he be nervous? He makes a jillion another one?

825
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I like it. Behind the Pacers in

826
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: the playoff locks. Our next the candidate for ranking, the

827
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: New York Knicks. They're third in the East, thirty six

828
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: and eighteen. They're awesome on offense, second in the league,

829
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: twentieth in defense, averages out to fifth in net rating,

830
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 1: though apparently they can't beat the top of the Eastern Conference.

831
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: I've brought that up before. They're five against the top

832
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: three teams in the league, but they visit two of them,

833
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: the Calves and the Celtics, I believe this weekend, So

834
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 2: a couple more tests here for the Knicks. But they

835
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: spent their entire offseason, upgrading their roster to really compete

836
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: with the Celtics, if we're being honest, getting mckail Bridges,

837
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: trading all of that draft capital, potentially overpaying to keep

838
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 2: og In Andobi, and then making the trade for Karl

839
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: Anthony Towns. To me, that is like, yeah, that is

840
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 2: to beat the Boston Celtics and maybe win a championship.

841
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 2: But you know, they've had two ugly blowout losses yes

842
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 2: to Boston so far, but A're gonna get another crack

843
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: at it. They're a Final four flirt. To me, I

844
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: cannot put them as a title contender until I see

845
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 2: them beat these best teams.

846
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, Yeah, they haven't played Cleveland yet, so

847
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: they play them three more times here at the end

848
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: of the season, so maybe that's the time that they

849
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: find a different defense. It's kind of hard to say

850
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: that thought. They play them this week with on Friday,

851
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: and maybe Mitchell Robinson will be back to help out,

852
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: but he's probably just gonna be coming off the bench

853
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: to start. He's not gonna start on this team with

854
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: Carlington Towns, I don't think eventually, I doubt it.

855
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: It's two big lineups are very very populart.

856
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 3: Yes, they're hot right now.

857
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: Let's see if they try it.

858
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 3: He's weird.

859
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: This gonna be a weird, too big lineup. I'm with you, guys,

860
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: final four flirts, because I do think the Knicks are

861
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: a team that, like, if matchups end up right for them,

862
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: they could go to the conference finals for sure. Yeah,

863
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: as a team, they could be on fire for a

864
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: month straight.

865
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: I do believe. And you've brought this up before, TK,

866
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: I think you had Brunson as your favorite to win

867
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: Clutch Player of the Year. Yep, good stat from shoe here.

868
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: He leads the league and clutch usage rate at nearly

869
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: forty seven percent, highest rate for any player in the

870
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: last six seasons. And he's one of two players Yo

871
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 2: Kisch is the other one who shot better than fifty

872
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 2: percent on at least fifty clutch shots.

873
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: It's pretty good.

874
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: So he I mean, you're in a close game, you

875
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: like your chances with Brunson. Yeah, running point obviously is

876
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 2: just amazing in the clutch this year and has been

877
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: for a while. But yeah, you know, I just got

878
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 2: to see them beat the Celtics mainly, and we'll see

879
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: how they do against the Calves. They got to beat

880
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: some of these best teams because they didn't beat the

881
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: thunder as well.

882
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: Right, we'll see if it's a paper rock scissors thing

883
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: where like the Celtics can beat the next I'm with you,

884
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: the Celtics have the next number a little bit. But

885
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: maybe the Knicks can beat the Calves. We shall see.

886
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, if that turns.

887
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: Out to be the case. The Orlando Magic, ooh, they's

888
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: seventh in the Eastern Conference after a real tough stretch

889
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: here twenty seven and twenty nine. They're twenty ninth in offense,

890
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: second in defense, eighteenth in net rating, and man twenty

891
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: ninth in offense, second in defense. That sounds exactly like

892
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: the Orlando Magic to me. Yeah, because every game these

893
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: team plays is ninety nine to ninety seven.

894
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 2: It feels like, who do you think is their best

895
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 2: guy that plays three point shooter? Best guy that plays

896
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: three point shooter? Kristin da Silva Bingos Nba Sickle. That

897
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: was a tough question to you nailed it. Here's how

898
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: he's shooting thirty three percent. WHOA, he's sixty three for

899
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety. He's at thirty three percent. He's

900
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: the best shooter on the magic that plays any significant minutes. Wow,

901
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: that's crazy. It's just so they're so bad, and they

902
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: were bad last year and they somehow got even worse

903
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: in terms of shooting the three pointers. So, like, the

904
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: defense is elite. We we love Sugs, we love Palo

905
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 2: and Frans and these guys and what they were building there,

906
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: and they're well coached. But yeah, in today's IMBA, you

907
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: gotta hit three, so you have to hit some. They

908
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: just they just can't. That's like, so they need a

909
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: Paalo like sort of like where he catches fire or

910
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: fronds like, and maybe it happens. But I mean, what

911
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: you've seen so far this season, there's like no indication

912
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 2: that they could even be an average three point shooting Yeah.

913
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty point six on NBA dot Com. And when

914
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 3: I did the other point six is a team? Yeah,

915
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: And when I did the flyback through the last twenty years,

916
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 3: I think they would be the worst three point shooting

917
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 3: team since like oh four h five period.

918
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: Before teams knew about three pointers.

919
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, if that's if that still holds, I think it is.

920
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: I think they would be the worst team literally it's

921
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: that era. It's oh four or five or five, Oh, six.

922
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 3: I mean they need a ball handler desperately just to

923
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 3: be better. They need Jail and Sugs back. They haven't

924
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 3: won two in a row in almost two months when

925
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: they're awesome. That's a long time ago. You know, it

926
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 3: was around Christmas, and it's highly unlikely he's playing tomorrow.

927
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 3: He's still limited in practice. I did that search. I

928
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 3: said it is Jail and Thugs coming back because they

929
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: have been so bad without him. It's really really bad,

930
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 3: even though he's a worse shoot three point shooter than

931
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 3: Tristan to Silva. They just need a ball handler periods.

932
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: So where are we putting them? Just so? Are they

933
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: still just a play and hopeful? They're in the mix there.

934
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: And he might be back soon, So they're not a

935
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: lock to me, No, not for me.

936
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 1: Either, exactly play in lock, I mean the playoff hopeful,

937
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: I think is probably what the MAVs would call it,

938
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: or the Magic would call themselves. Here hoping that when

939
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: Suggs comes back and they can get a little bit

940
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: of ball movement and it's not Apollo and Franz having

941
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: to create for everybody because Polo he's like a last

942
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: second creator. If he gets cut off, he's going to

943
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: make the dish. Franz is more of an actual playmaker,

944
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: I think, but having those two is your main guy.

945
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: It has not been pretty, so I would go playing hopeful.

946
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 2: Okay, where are within that tier just after the Heat

947
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: ahead of the Heat?

948
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean the Magic of those four teams, the Heat, Magic, Hawks,

949
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: and Bowls. They're the only one that have an elite anything. Yeah,

950
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: they've got an elite defense at the very least, so

951
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: they'll be in games. It's just a matter of can

952
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: they actually score enough to win them.

953
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm playing with that position right now in the

954
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: playing hopefuls.

955
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: Okay, now, Philadelphia seventy six ers. They're eleventh in the East,

956
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: twenty and thirty four to twenty third in offense twenty

957
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: third and defense twenty second in net rating. They just

958
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: get Lonnie Walker though.

959
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, two years, three million dollars.

960
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: They're calling the Alex lenn of the Eastern Conference.

961
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, God, that is that's a disk right there.

962
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,479
Speaker 2: They've lost five straight, including three in which they had

963
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 2: their three big guys. So you know, even though those

964
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: guys are sort of back from time to time, I'm

965
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 2: talking Joell and beat Paul George and Tyres MAXI. It's

966
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter right now, it's not good. We

967
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: this is gonna be a weird tangent. But back in

968
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: university we wrote we wrote a show. It was basically

969
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: we went for broadcast television, right and we had to

970
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 2: write a show and it was basically a knockoff of

971
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: the Office. But it was on like a resident floor

972
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: in college. It was called the Floor. And I bring

973
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: all this up because there was one line in that

974
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: show that always made us laugh, or always made me laugh,

975
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 2: one of my favorite lines. There was like a party

976
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: going on and it got shut down JD. I don't

977
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: know if you remember this. And the main guy, the

978
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: guy that was like the resident ra he turns to

979
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: the DJ, which was played by our friend Paul, and

980
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: just goes shut her down, Roger. And that's the Philadelphia

981
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 2: seventy six ers. Shut her down, Roger, because they should

982
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: shut down and be they should lean into tanking because

983
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: this is just a lost season. So shut her down, Roches.

984
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: By the way, to Paul, he killed it.

985
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like just he had no line. Yeah,

986
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: it's one of the best parts of the entire thing.

987
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: It's actually a little bit funny funny. So that's them,

988
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: that's the sixers. Man.

989
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: Well, we don't have a shutter down unfortunately.

990
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the category that does. The day they

991
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: decide to shut it down, I don't know what day

992
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 3: it's going to be, but it's got to be one

993
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: of the next two months here, it's going to be

994
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: in the regular season. Is not going to look good.

995
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 3: But they have gone the other direction, getting Lonnie Walker.

996
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: They think he can turn it on for a quarter.

997
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 3: I mean he had a what was it a fourteen

998
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: point quarter for the fourteen point fourth quarter for the

999
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: Los Angeles Lakers in the playoffs, and I remember that

1000
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: in twenty three I guess it was when they went

1001
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 3: to the conference finals. Yeah, they're hoping, they are hoping.

1002
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: So what are we saying though, would they be a

1003
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: play and hopeful because I mean, they're they're trying to

1004
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: get into the tenth seed or are they legitimately going

1005
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,959
Speaker 1: to be tanking away at the end of the season. Here,

1006
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: they're losing a ton right now. I don't know if

1007
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: it's on purpose, but they're losing right now. It's hard

1008
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: to figure out. But they're pick is top six protected,

1009
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: so it's good for them to be bad.

1010
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: I would put them in the flag seekers, all right.

1011
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: I think that's the direction they should take. I think

1012
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: they whether they're guys player or not, it doesn't even matter.

1013
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: You just said it. They can't win anyway. They're not good.

1014
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

1015
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they should have been folding for weeks. The funny

1016
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: part is they're going the absolute different direction, the opposite direction.

1017
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: They're going to keep trying. They might not even sit

1018
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: their guys this season. They might just go for it

1019
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: all the way, losing anyway. And they're losing anyways, they're

1020
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: going to be passed by the Toronto Raptors. Looking at

1021
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 3: this the standings, they're going to be passed.

1022
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks, so bad, that's.

1023
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 2: The case, and they need to be in that tier,

1024
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: the bottom tier.

1025
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: Let's get into it.

1026
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: Then.

1027
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: The thirteenth seated Toronto Raptors are seventeen and thirty eight

1028
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: by my math, that's three and a half games shy

1029
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: of the sixers in eleventh. Raptors are twenty fifth in

1030
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: offense twenty fifth and defense twenty sixth in net rating.

1031
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: Been bad task.

1032
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: You're thinking playoff long where do you want to play?

1033
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1034
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 2: I mean I think I would have them still in

1035
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: the the seekers. Yeah, they had a solid stretch there

1036
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: in January, Okay, they did, but you know they've now

1037
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: been playing the better teams in the league and they

1038
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: lost five to six. Though. I think they have the

1039
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: easiest schedule remaining.

1040
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: Oh, they absolutely know.

1041
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 2: There's that you know when you're looking at the Yeah,

1042
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: the cumulative opponent winning percentage. They play a lot of

1043
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 2: bad teams. Only five of their twenty seven games are against

1044
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: teams currently above five hundred, if twenty two games against

1045
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: teams that are sub five hundred.

1046
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 3: Play the Wizards thrice, three more times, they play the

1047
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 3: Jazz twice, the Hornets twice, the Nets twice, the Sixers twice,

1048
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 3: and the Bulls twice.

1049
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: Wow, that's all right.

1050
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 3: Yes, this category is to play and hopeful. They're hoping, okay,

1051
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 3: and they're going to play their better players at some point,

1052
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 3: you know, Brandon Ingram is going to show up, and yeah,

1053
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, unless they want to go the other direction.

1054
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 3: I think this team literally could make the play in

1055
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: and finish with the NBA's tenth worst record, and you

1056
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 3: could still win the first pick. You could maybe perhaps,

1057
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 3: but it is one of those weird things Hawks did

1058
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 3: it last year exactly.

1059
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they've had quickly, RJ. Barrett and Scottie Barnes

1060
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: all in the lineup for seven of their games this season.

1061
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: That said, they weren't even good enough. They were one

1062
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: in six, one and six in those games, and they

1063
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: were outscored by a ridiculous amount in those games. So

1064
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: that was an issue. But yeah, will we see bi

1065
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: will they get more reps? I guess playing hopeful, let's go,

1066
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: But I would not hold my breath.

1067
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: Welcome to the party boys.

1068
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 3: I just want to correct myself.

1069
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: So Bold and raptors must always be connected.

1070
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have to.

1071
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well we're gonna say. I just want

1072
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 3: to correct myself. Magic shooting thirty point six percent from three,

1073
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 3: That would be the worst three point shooting since twelve thirteen.

1074
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: It's twelve thirteen. It ain't twenty years, but it's solid,

1075
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: a solid thirteen years.

1076
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: Who was that six ers?

1077
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: They were process mode at that point.

1078
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 3: I think, right, I don't know, I can, I can,

1079
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 3: that's all.

1080
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: My that's a bad team. And as is this the

1081
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 1: fifteen seeded Washington Wizards nine and forty five, our only

1082
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: single digit win team in the Eastern Conference. They are

1083
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: thirtieth in every rating. Oh gosh, offense, defense, and net rating.

1084
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: They lost a lot of games by like fifteen points

1085
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, they get destroyed.

1086
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: Schumann says, they're in position to be the first team

1087
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,479
Speaker 2: in the twenty nine seasons for which we have play

1088
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: by play data to rank in the bottom ten in

1089
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 2: each of the four factors on offense and on defense,

1090
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 2: effective field goal percentage, turnover percentages, rebounding percentages both offensively

1091
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: and defensively, and then the free throw to field goal attempted.

1092
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: So like whether you're getting the line and how much

1093
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: you're following bottom ten in every single category. No one's

1094
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: done that in the twenty nine years that we have

1095
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: the data for. That's something else.

1096
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: That's like a happy Gilmour. I'm the only guy to

1097
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: take off my skate and try to stab something.

1098
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're dumb, young and full of losses, but they are.

1099
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: They are. They're a bad team, but they are very young.

1100
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: Forty five percent of their minutes from rookies or second

1101
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: year players. Yeah, but now they got Chris Middleton and

1102
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: Marcus Smart Well, yeah, they got some vets in there.

1103
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: A Middleton will play I think smart he has. He's

1104
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: basically been out for two ten years.

1105
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and we're clowning on them. But they did

1106
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: show a little bit of promise before the All Star break,

1107
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: like they got a bit better. They had some victories.

1108
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: But they're a play. There are a Cooper flags. They're

1109
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: a flag star without a doubt. Will they catch the Hornets?

1110
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: The Hornets have four more wins than the Wizards at

1111
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: the bottom of the Eastern Conference. Nine wins for the Hornets,

1112
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: thirteen wins or sorry, thirteen wins for the Hornets, nine

1113
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: wins for the Wizards. Honestly, I don't think so. I

1114
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: don't think anybody catch like, nobody catches the Wizards for

1115
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 2: the worst worst.

1116
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: You think they'll finish worst, I bet you're probably right,

1117
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: But I think they'll win more games than the Hornets

1118
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: over this last stretch here.

1119
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, but it will be they don't they'll run

1120
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 2: out of time.

1121
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't worry. They'll still finish bottom four and get

1122
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: those great odds. Let's switch to the Western Conference.

1123
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: Okay, it was the timber Uls tho were the worst

1124
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 3: shooting team in two Who is their best three point shooter?

1125
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: Kevin Love?

1126
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 3: He was injured unfortunately, but no, actually, surprisingly, he was

1127
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 3: twenty one percent from three in his eighteen games that

1128
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 3: he played eighteen game it was still a lot. Yeah,

1129
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 3: he was a bad shooter.

1130
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 2: This is their best ye.

1131
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to remember that he played for the Timberwolves.

1132
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 3: He's an NBA champion, though not with the Timberwolves. But

1133
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 3: then he went because he won an NBA championship, went

1134
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 3: to the Timberwls and signed a juicy deal.

1135
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: JJ Barrat. That's good hints, really good hints, all right,

1136
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: and a great player to mention. Because we're starting with

1137
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks in the Western Conference. They are eighth

1138
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 1: in the West thirty and twenty sixth. They are seventh

1139
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: in offense, fourteenth in defense, tenth and net rating, though

1140
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: obviously most of those statistics are from the first half

1141
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: of the season when they had Luka Dancic playing twenty

1142
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: two games rather than Anthony Davis and Max Christi. They've

1143
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: got a ton of injuries.

1144
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 3: Right now, my god, dude.

1145
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, if you're over six foot nine,

1146
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: you're hurt on the Mavericks.

1147
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: Sorry, I will say they are. They're not letting go

1148
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: of the rope. Despite all those injuries. All they're bigs

1149
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis obviously just coming to the team, Gafford Lively, PJ. Washington,

1150
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: and they somehow won for their last five games before

1151
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 2: the all start break. Yeah, and these are like in

1152
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: the Western Conference, all these are important. They're two games

1153
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 2: back of the Clippers for the six spot, but they

1154
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 2: got to pass you know, Minnesota to advance directly to

1155
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 2: the playoffs. So there's teams obviously on their way to

1156
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: get in there. It is a tough one task to

1157
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: figure out because they're just a new makeup of the

1158
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 2: team and their main guy that they got back for Lucas,

1159
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: he's out for a little bit here.

1160
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 3: So oh yeah, this is tough because they have one

1161
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 3: four or five. They beat Boston in Boston. They look

1162
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 3: like a team that you could squint and say final

1163
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 3: four flirt, but you could also say playing hopeful because

1164
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 3: the West is so tough.

1165
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 2: Big big gam in hereo West is so tough.

1166
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 3: We could literally have the largest number of Final four

1167
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 3: flirts depending where you cut it off in the standings

1168
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 3: because the MAVs are eighth. But a lot of these

1169
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 3: teams are going to miss. I mean some of these

1170
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 3: teams are going to miss, so kind of have to.

1171
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 3: I guess we have to kind of pick one because

1172
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 3: I could I could squint and see that to see

1173
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: the Grizzlies, the Nuggets, Rockets, Lakers, Clippers, Wolves, Mats all

1174
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 3: in the final four. Maybe perhaps that's where I cut

1175
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 3: it off. I could see them ass. I could see

1176
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 3: them as if they're playing that hard. But who knows

1177
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 3: when these guys are coming back? Really that's part of it.

1178
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 3: But anyway, are they a playoff lock?

1179
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: I mean.

1180
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 3: I would say no, But could I see them as

1181
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 3: the final four?

1182
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: Four? I would say ye, feel like a lock right

1183
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: now with all the injuries, because like, who's their center

1184
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: that's even coming back first. Lively has been out the longest.

1185
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 3: He might be out long. He might be out till April.

1186
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis is obviously the best of the three. Gafford

1187
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: is most recent. They said, what six weeks yea, it'll

1188
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: be like playoff time almost with him.

1189
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so PJ probably.

1190
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Washington he's also out. Yeah, yeah, I

1191
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: guess that heals faster. Yeah, I would be happy putting

1192
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: him at the top of the play in hopeful Yeah, yeah,

1193
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: look great. That one half that Anthony David was doc

1194
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: it looked awesome. Yeah, Kyrie's had some really nice games.

1195
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the trade as well. It's weird.

1196
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 2: Team defense wins championships. Yeah. Wow, it's weird to put

1197
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: them there, isn't it? Playing hopefuls? What a weird season.

1198
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: Weird season? Up next the Denver Nuggets. They're currently third

1199
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: in the Western Conference thirty six and nineteen. They're on

1200
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: a win streak right now, third in the league and offense,

1201
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: seventeenth in defense and sixth in net rating for the

1202
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets.

1203
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, longest active winning streak in the league right now,

1204
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: eight eighth straight.

1205
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: I think all against losing teams. If I'm not mistake, took.

1206
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: Care of business. I think there's still to me a

1207
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: championship contender. We had them there in the preseason. If

1208
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: we had done this, you know, six weeks into the

1209
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 2: start of the regular season, I don't know if we

1210
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: would have kept them there would have been interesting then.

1211
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: But what they've shown recently, the way Michael Port Junior

1212
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: had an awesome stretch. Jamal Murray, I mean he's the

1213
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 2: best ultimate like is Jamal Murray's cooking? You know what

1214
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: you'll could just given you you got a chance to

1215
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 2: maybe do it the whole again and win it all.

1216
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 2: So I would keep them in the title contenders, but

1217
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: probably near the back end of it.

1218
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 3: If there's one team in the Western Conference to throw

1219
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 3: in there with, Okay, see, it's got to be this team,

1220
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 3: even though you know, I'll jump in the Houston Rockets

1221
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 3: wagon when they were hot, But don't the.

1222
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 2: Nuggets experience alone put them ahead of Grizzlies, ahead of Rockets,

1223
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: as great as they've been, as solid as they've been,

1224
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: as deep as they are. I think, I think it

1225
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: sort of does, like even like and then they have

1226
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: like an advantage over the LA teams that sort of

1227
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 2: have new makeups. Obviously the Lakers with Luca Clippers a

1228
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 2: newer team than what they've had before, Like the Denver

1229
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 2: Nuggets do have at least in their main guys have

1230
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 2: that continuity. So that's where I sort of have more

1231
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 2: faith in them, I guess, than a lot of those

1232
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 2: teams I just listed.

1233
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:45,959
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1234
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the biggest threat I think to the Thunder

1235
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: in the Western Conference, though we'll see. I mean, like

1236
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: a big part of the Nuggets offense this year third

1237
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: in the league is that they're the best fast break

1238
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: team in the league. Usually fast break basketball goes away

1239
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: off time, but not every team has Nikola Jokic and

1240
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, which are two huge fast breakers. So we

1241
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: shall see. But yeah, I still got a lot of

1242
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: confidence in the Nuggets as well. There's their happy birthday.

1243
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, birthday him him, Dave Stewart, yep, the former

1244
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 2: Athletics pitcher.

1245
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: Yep, Mike Miller, and Mike Miller and is monkey. That's right.

1246
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: I've stolen something from all those guys.

1247
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 3: For my game.

1248
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 2: Go on, Dave Stewart, let's hear them all three.

1249
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the monkey from Mike Miller, of course. I

1250
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: just am a fan of having unusual pets. From Nikola,

1251
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: I've stolen his entire game and from Dave Stewart, the intensity.

1252
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 2: The will to win. Wow. Wow, he had quite a

1253
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: stare on the mound.

1254
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: He ye, yes, scary pitcher.

1255
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's talks about him bringing a baseball team to Nashville.

1256
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 3: Maybe every single Nashville nickname, whatever they call them. We'll

1257
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 3: stare at the other team hardcore on the field is

1258
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 3: still have the Dave Stuart stare get.

1259
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: I like that.

1260
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: That was pretty I learned a baseball fact last night.

1261
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 2: It's or to tie to what you're saying. If they

1262
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 2: put a team in Nashville, you name the closest MLB

1263
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 2: team by proximity to Atlanta.

1264
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 3: To the brains, gotta be Tampa.

1265
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: It's not.

1266
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: It's tough, so it's not Tampa Miami.

1267
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 2: The Washington Nationals go to. Your neck of the woods

1268
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 2: is Teak Cincinnati. Apparently I'm going off what somebody told

1269
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 2: me while we're having a beer last night after basketball.

1270
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: Trust that.

1271
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: Crazy seems legit to me.

1272
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so far to Florida. That's really hangs down there.

1273
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dangles down off the anyway that that trivia

1274
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: wouldn't work if they put a team in Nashville.

1275
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to completely rewrite the books. But look,

1276
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: you can change the name of anything if you want to.

1277
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: So the distance, no big deal. The Golden State Warriors

1278
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: are tenth in the Western Conference twenty eight twenty seven.

1279
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: They just traded for Jimmy Butler had some good success

1280
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: with him so far. Nope, seventeenth in offense, ninth and defense,

1281
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: sixteenth in net rating. How high do you want to

1282
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: go for the Golden State Warriors?

1283
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: Well, Draymond Green says title contenders, that's right. During All

1284
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: Star Weekend, Draymond Green had a lot to say about

1285
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: a lot of things, but he said, quote, since Jimmy's

1286
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,479
Speaker 2: been here with the Warriors, We've walked into every game

1287
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: thinking and believing that we're gonna win that game. And

1288
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: that goes a long way in this league. And then

1289
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 2: he went on to make a very bold statement. Draymond said,

1290
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 2: we are going to win a championship. That's what's going

1291
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: to happen.

1292
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay, even corrected himself the first time he said,

1293
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna win the championships. Ten seconds later

1294
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 3: he said, let me correct myself, We're gonna win the championship.

1295
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 2: I don't think it.

1296
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: You sound like Dave Stewart.

1297
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 3: Tenth place team in the Western Conference. Can you throw

1298
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 3: them into the title contenders?

1299
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: Can?

1300
00:57:53,400 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 2: No? No, no, Right in the Bay Areas in front

1301
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 2: of all of his own fans. Yeah, he played to

1302
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: the crowd. I get that.

1303
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like I said, I think we could have a

1304
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 3: huge amount of teams in the Final four flirt category,

1305
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 3: and I went down as far as the eighth place

1306
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 3: Dallas Mavericks thinking that. But the Warriors drop into tenth. Yeah.

1307
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're three and a half games out of the

1308
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: sixth seed, which is currently the Clipper and that's the

1309
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: last guaranteed playoff spot, right, So I don't know. I mean,

1310
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: they feel like a better team to me than a

1311
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: play and hopeful.

1312
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: But oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah. But are they a

1313
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 2: lot It's tough to say. Look, they have two huge

1314
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 2: games after this break is over, which is obviously this

1315
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: weekend or this Thursday or Friday. They visit the ninth

1316
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 2: place Kings on Friday, and then they host the eighth

1317
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: place Mavericks two days later. So okay, huge games for

1318
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 2: them to obviously start leap frogging some of these teams.

1319
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: They're three in one with Jimmy predictably, as we all thought,

1320
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 2: he's helped them out getting easy points because he gets

1321
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: to the damn free throw line where you know, through

1322
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: the first fifty games they average like as a team,

1323
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: like twenty free throw attempts per game. He's already bumped

1324
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 2: that up to like twenty five twenty six, So that's good,

1325
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 2: you know. They they do have like a little more

1326
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 2: life to them. And again I was like why, we

1327
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 2: were like, yeah, trade for Jimmy Butler, this season is

1328
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 2: just like, ugh, it's like a slog, like you got

1329
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 2: to shake it up and get like a like a

1330
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: guy like Jimmy in your locker room. And so Draymond

1331
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: believes it's working. I know. They asked Steph about it too,

1332
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,959
Speaker 2: like about Draymond's comments, and he did like he didn't

1333
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 2: double down saying we're gonna win the championship. But there's

1334
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: no doubt. There's more belief that they can go up

1335
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: the Western Conference standings and beat anybody they think in

1336
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 2: a four game series or in a best seven series.

1337
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: So playoff lock.

1338
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: I like it, yea, because I'm looking at the tiers

1339
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I would take the Warriors over the Pistons,

1340
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: no offense. Yeah right right, that's why it's weird, Yeah right, weird.

1341
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I hear you.

1342
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: I would also maybe take the Mads over the Pistons.

1343
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: Who knows there's a the play is different in the West.

1344
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: Well yeah, you know.

1345
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm happy to put the Warriors as a player.

1346
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: Playoff lock, do we one day?

1347
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 3: Do we we do? Yeah? I'm pining putting them there

1348
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 3: one day. Maybe we should do an Eastern Conference in

1349
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 3: a Western split.

1350
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, probably could probably split up the podcast to

1351
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: get more content out of it.

1352
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: People like the long streams. Oh yeah, this is an

1353
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: Austin Powers long stream.

1354
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine, that's fine. I have I have faith

1355
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 2: more in the Warriors than a lot of the teams

1356
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: like in Vicinity.

1357
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: Right now, Houston Rockets are currently fourth in the Western

1358
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: Conference thirty four and twenty one. They're fourteenth in offense,

1359
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: fourth in defense, and seventh in net rating. The Houston

1360
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: Rockets great season already for these fellas. When Fred van

1361
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: Vliet's hitting, when Dylan Brooks is hitting, they can beat anybody.

1362
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they slumped their way into the All Star break. Yes,

1363
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 2: they lost seven of their past nine games. A lot

1364
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 2: of those losses without Fred van Vliet. They're their offensive

1365
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 2: rating just plummets without steady Freddy there.

1366
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 3: You know them.

1367
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's not like it's not like Fred van

1368
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: Vliet is jellen Bruns. It like, you know, he's not

1369
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: that good, he's not that clutch, but he just he's

1370
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: one of those players just super important, important to run

1371
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: your team and get you better shots at least, and

1372
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 2: he does have a little clutch ginge in them. Too,

1373
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 2: But I don't know where to put this team is like,

1374
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 2: as great as they've been, I don't feel like they're

1375
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: a final four flirt. I think they're more of a

1376
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 2: playoff lock that I'm confident about.

1377
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, as squint and I could see them getting to

1378
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 3: that final four, that's for sure. But yeah, playoff lock

1379
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 3: is fine. Especially Fred Vanvliet is really important. Jaleen Green

1380
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 3: ain't running the offense. Friday is coming back most likely

1381
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 3: Friday against Minnesota, and that makes a whole new team.

1382
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 3: They did get to the break at a good time here,

1383
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 3: so yeah, I'm fine locking them. So I do think

1384
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 3: they they just aren't that same team that really slumped

1385
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 3: into the All Star Game. They're really bad. But I

1386
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 3: think if Fred comes back, they're totally different.

1387
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: They're totally different because to me, a lot of the Rockets,

1388
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: even when they're at full strength, full health, it comes

1389
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: down to camp. Fred van Vliet make these moonball three pointers.

1390
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: He's shooting the same shot, so him not being there

1391
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: was definitely bad for the Rockets. But it still comes

1392
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: down to so much on Van Bleet's shoulders to be

1393
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: hitting that. That's a tough way to live. And like

1394
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: I said, earlier, like fast break defense, offensive rebounding teams

1395
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, that gets a lot harder. So I

1396
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: think they would have a tough time. Like if it

1397
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: ended up being Houston and the Clippers right now is

1398
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: the four or five matchup. I bet a lot of

1399
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: people are picking the Clippers, myself included. Yeah, you throw

1400
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: in the experience and just you got to have an

1401
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: offense when it comes to playoff time, and their offense

1402
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: is not always the most efficient.

1403
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. Yudoka said recently that Jabari Smith Junior,

1404
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: who is out with a hand injury, maybe cleared for

1405
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 2: contact work during the All Star break, So I don't

1406
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: know if that happened, but he could maybe potentially be

1407
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 2: coming back to He's a shooter, he's helped, very important

1408
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 2: to their team, no doubt. Schumann has a crazy stat

1409
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 2: about the Rockets. They're tied with the Wolves for the

1410
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 2: best recording games played between the top eight teams in

1411
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 2: the West. Really well, yes, the better teams are twelve

1412
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: and six, just like Minnesota.

1413
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 3: And you said they're playing Friday, Yeah, yeah.

1414
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 2: Playoff lock and near the top of that because I

1415
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 2: you know, thirty four and twenty one. What I mean

1416
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 2: great season.

1417
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: Ahead of the Warriors.

1418
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we almost have to.

1419
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, bucks, yes, yes, ahead of the Pacers.

1420
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, I don't know task you agree. You

1421
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 2: like them ahead of those other teams. I know we're

1422
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 2: like doing conference of conference, but you gotta put them

1423
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:34,439
Speaker 2: in order. Yeah, that's why.

1424
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: That's why I think this is okay. We can rank

1425
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: them within their tiers as well. Yeah, okay, that's okay,

1426
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: all right.

1427
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 2: Nice.

1428
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: Here's the team that I forgot when I first did this,

1429
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Clippers. They're currently sixth in Wait a minute,

1430
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: oh yeah, lac Okay, sorry, I'm look at my notes.

1431
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: The Clippers are sixth in the Western Conference. That's already

1432
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: one in twenty three, nineteenth on offense, third in defense,

1433
01:03:58,800 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: ninth in net rate.

1434
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

1435
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: Good team, good team. I think they're ten and five

1436
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 2: when Kawhi is in the lineup too. Yep, So the

1437
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: been playing more. Yeah, and they've got honestly dominated when

1438
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 2: Kawhi is playing with Harden, Norman, Powell and Zubats. When

1439
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 2: those guys are on the floor together, they've been really

1440
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 2: really good in whatever you know, two hundred and fifty

1441
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 2: plus minutes that they've played together. But the Clips, I mean,

1442
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 2: you think they have a Final Four run in them.

1443
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 3: I think they if they're all healthy, Yeah, you think

1444
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 3: they're better than the Lakers, Yes, if they're healthy, if

1445
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 3: they're playing every single one of their guys, yeah, I do.

1446
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 3: I do.

1447
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 2: And you think they're better than the youthful Grizzlies and Rockets,

1448
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 2: let's say, or lack of experience in those teams.

1449
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 3: Oh, it would be a good series. But yeah, I

1450
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 3: think they have the makeup of a of a team

1451
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 3: that can make the run.

1452
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1453
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 3: If Kawhi is Kawhi, I mean that's a big, huge,

1454
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 3: ginormous part of it. And it's playing with Derek Jones

1455
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 3: Junior who went to the NBA Finals last year beside

1456
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 3: him and Zubas. Their defense is incredible. Yeah, and Kuhi

1457
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 3: is playing like that secondary point guard as well, just

1458
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 3: in case James Harden is not there for whatever Reasonly

1459
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 3: he's he's looking good, but who knows if he's gonna

1460
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 3: play basketball. That's the biggest question.

1461
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 2: They are the Orlando Magic with an actually offense that

1462
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 2: you have a lot more faith in because you have

1463
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: Kawhi and you have James Harden and Norman Powell can't

1464
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 2: miss a three pointer like it's and they're like, My

1465
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 2: point is, like the defense is elite, like both of them.

1466
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 2: I think you need to decide here though, because I'm

1467
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,959
Speaker 2: a I'm a Clippers hater. You're i think more leaned

1468
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 2: towards being a Clippers believer. Yeah, so I think you

1469
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 2: should decide where they go.

1470
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking at the rankor here, and we don't

1471
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: have enough teams in the final four flirts. I don't know,

1472
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: this is the time to buy into the Clippers.

1473
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 3: Man.

1474
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: Everybody's healthy, everybody's playing right now.

1475
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 2: I've done this before.

1476
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Albert, all right, it is a strange thing with them.

1477
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: You're going to the playoff locks right now.

1478
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 2: So I mean, okay, what we're getting out here, it

1479
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 2: does sound like Clippers. Let's say they're a fifth or

1480
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: sixth seat. Let's say they don't have home court advantage, right,

1481
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 2: so they don't have the six.

1482
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 1: Right now, they're just starting against the Denver Nuggets.

1483
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah right, right, So my point was that's a no.

1484
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 2: But but if they match up against the Rockets, if

1485
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 2: they match up against the Grizzlies, I guess even the

1486
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 2: Lakers like you sound like you believe that they could

1487
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 2: beat them some of those teams, Yeah, but some I don't.

1488
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: So it's the biggest unknown team.

1489
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 2: That's a big unknown. Yeah.

1490
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: Are you getting the forty point playoff game James Harden,

1491
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: which we saw last year in the playoffs, or are

1492
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: you getting the twelve point James Harden?

1493
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 2: Are you getting top five player in the world Kawhi

1494
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 2: or are you not getting him? Yeah?

1495
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: What a mystery Yeah, what a mystery box.

1496
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 2: Okay, but we got a final four floorts.

1497
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: All right, Well, the Clippers will be out three to

1498
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: zero in the NBA Finals and I'll be like, I

1499
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: don't know if I buy it. Yeah, yeah, if I

1500
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: can trust them? Right now?

1501
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 2: Up twenty five four of the game decided.

1502
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: You know, championship Los Angeles Lakers their fifth in the

1503
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: last thirty two and twenty tenth on offense, sixteenth in defense,

1504
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: twelfth in net rating. Their team is one hundred percent change.

1505
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: They got Luka Doncic. Now he's on the Lakers.

1506
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, doesn't still seem real, right because we saw him

1507
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 2: play one game. Two games they split against the Jets.

1508
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: We watched and talked about the one where they looked

1509
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: and we didn't talk about it at all got smoked

1510
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,919
Speaker 1: by the Jets the bounce back game.

1511
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 2: But you know, they had that winning streak despite all

1512
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 2: the big trade with the ad Luca putting together a

1513
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 2: bunch of victories there and they were on fire from

1514
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 2: three in those that winning streak. They couldn't miss and

1515
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 2: the other team couldn't hit. So is that going to

1516
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 2: come back to earth a little bit? But I mean,

1517
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 2: they have lucat Doncic now, and they still have Lebron,

1518
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 2: and they got the pieces. I mean, I think they're

1519
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 2: better than the Clippers personally in a in a matchup,

1520
01:07:58,200 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 2: I should say if they played each other, I would

1521
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 2: be definitely taking the Lakers and the Clips.

1522
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't believe in the in the Clippers, I understand,

1523
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 3: because they get injured, that's for sure. I guess with

1524
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 3: the Lakers, you look at it and you say, yeah,

1525
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 3: well they got Loga, Well, well they got Lebron. Why

1526
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 3: can't they get into a final fours? That's reasonable? Yeah,

1527
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 3: that's reasonable.

1528
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 2: But don't have that as a title contender.

1529
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't, No, definitely not. The weird thing

1530
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: though with the Lakers is like I think they could

1531
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 1: win any game. I think they could win almost any series,

1532
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: but I don't think they can win enough games in

1533
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: enough series to actually go to the championship. Like I

1534
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: don't think they'd bet the Nuggets. They still don't have

1535
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: a Yoka chncer. I mean, most teams in the Western

1536
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: Conference don't, right, So that's why I have them rated

1537
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: so highly. But you can see the Lakers absolutely dissecting

1538
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 1: any defense that gets thrown at them. They got like

1539
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 1: two of the smartest ball handlers making decisions for forty

1540
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,799
Speaker 1: eight minutes. And Austin Reeves ain't no slouch either. Final

1541
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: four flirts.

1542
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 2: Oh we buy it.

1543
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: We're drinking too much Lakers juice?

1544
01:08:58,520 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1545
01:08:58,960 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: Probably.

1546
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 2: Oh.

1547
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 3: I mean what you said about how they can dissect

1548
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 3: two different teams, I don't think that's crazy at all.

1549
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 3: We saw two years ago it was Lebron and Anthony

1550
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 3: Davis was a different team that got to the conference finals.

1551
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 1: But and their defense has been good, and Lakers fans

1552
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: will point out that they've had their great defensive run

1553
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: here with Anthony Davis missing time as well, it's basically

1554
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:22,799
Speaker 1: been Dorian Finney Smith getting a lot more minutes.

1555
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, nasty. They have a lot of back to

1556
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 2: backs left on their schedule, Schumann noted in his power rankings.

1557
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 2: So I don't know if that hurts them here. It's

1558
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 2: good they put together that little win streak, I think,

1559
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 2: because I think there's still going to be a lot

1560
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 2: of growing pains, like with the Luca edition totally in

1561
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 2: terms of figuring out sort of how they're going to

1562
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 2: run this offense with him and Lebron. They'll figure it out,

1563
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 2: but it might take a little bit of time.

1564
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: Ah.

1565
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: Man, I don't know. The final four flirt. So we

1566
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 2: put the Clippers in the playoff lock in the end, Okay.

1567
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 3: We don't have many flirters, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

1568
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 3: the thing. That's the thing. They can go both ways.

1569
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 3: They can flirt, but they can also be declined, you know,

1570
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 3: they shut it down, shut down, get out of here.

1571
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 3: I'm fine with putting them there.

1572
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 2: That's fine. Get in the playoff lock out here.

1573
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1574
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: Interesting one here. The Memphis Grizzlies their second in the

1575
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 1: West thirty six and eighteen. They're sixth in offense, seventh

1576
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: in defense, and fourth in net rating. But apparently John

1577
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 1: Morant might be on the table this summer. Yeah, interesting news,

1578
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 1: interesting news for this Memphis Grizzlies team. Do you believe

1579
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 1: in the Grizzlies skets keep calling him young? Ain't that young?

1580
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: They're big three together for years at this point.

1581
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess I'm more inexperienced than maybe is the way.

1582
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: I don't find them inexperienced either. They've that those squads

1583
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: have played in the playoffs multiple times together, Bane Jackson

1584
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 1: and John Morant, and they keep coming up short.

1585
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why they're gonn trade John Moran apparently. Maybe

1586
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 2: they're barely holding on to second place here in the West.

1587
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 2: They dominate the bad teams. Yes, that's the one thing

1588
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 2: they do. Twenty three and three against teams currently below

1589
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 2: five hundred, So they just kick ass against those teams.

1590
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: So thirteen and fifteen against teams that are over five hundred.

1591
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so more of an average team there.

1592
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:11,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, they will play mostly winning teams in the playoffs.

1593
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 1: I believe.

1594
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 2: You always bring up the transition points with them, like

1595
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 2: that's how they win a lot of regular season games

1596
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 2: and tends to go away or at least gets diminished

1597
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 2: in the postseason. They have, like Sho says, like they

1598
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 2: score like thirty four transition points per game. It's like

1599
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 2: the largest we've seen since Synergy like track this thing.

1600
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 2: So that's awesome. But does their just Grizzly depth and

1601
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: all that play better over the course of a regular

1602
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 2: season than it does a little bit in the postseason?

1603
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 2: Seems that has been that way. I don't know. I

1604
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 2: don't put them their playoff lock, but I don't have

1605
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 2: a ton of confidence.

1606
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting when you think of the end of

1607
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 3: game team with Morant and Triple Jackson, Triple j and

1608
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 3: Desmond Ban those are your guys. That's who you have

1609
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 3: to rely on. And then hope that Jalen Wells or

1610
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 3: whether it's Brandon Clark or whether it's GG Jackson, those

1611
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 3: guys are just good enough to support those other guys.

1612
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 3: But it is it's hard to buy in. It's hard

1613
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 3: to buy in. But at one point, I guess they'll

1614
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 3: do it in the playoffs. Maybe at break right for them, Yeah, maybe.

1615
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: Where do you want to put them?

1616
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: I would have them ahead of the Houston what I

1617
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 1: have them? I would have them ahead of the Houston

1618
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 1: Rockets barely, even though the Rockets have beat the Grizzlies

1619
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: mostly this season.

1620
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 3: Close games, close games, for sure.

1621
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, playoff lock, I mean they go to

1622
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: a conference finals?

1623
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 2: Have they been?

1624
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,560
Speaker 1: They've been to a conference finals once, right, lost to

1625
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: the Lakers. Yeah, poking Bears, yeah, way back. Yeah, Yeah,

1626
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: that was a good run. The Minnesota Timberwolves are seventh

1627
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: in the West. They're thirty one and twenty five, thirteenth

1628
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: in offense, sixth then defense, eighth in net rating. Did

1629
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 1: make a conference finals last year? Are they a final

1630
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: four flirt? Do you believe?

1631
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 2: Oh man, this team is up and you're like, damn,

1632
01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: they're good. They're going back to the conference finals. And

1633
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 2: then they're down like they have done that all season long.

1634
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 2: Three game win streak, three game lo the Street, three

1635
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 2: game win Street, three game looten streak. They had a

1636
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,759
Speaker 2: nice win against the Thunder before the All Star Break,

1637
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: one of the only teams to beat the Thunder by

1638
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 2: double digit points. That was good. Conley's getting it going

1639
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 2: again here. That's really good for them. They're finched the

1640
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 2: sort of almost I don't know if he was forced to,

1641
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 2: but he start playing some of his younger guys a

1642
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 2: little bit, Dillingham, jailing Clark. They were getting more opportunity.

1643
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 2: That was helping the second unit. Can he continue with that?

1644
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 2: Shoe says they have one of the easiest remaining schedules

1645
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 2: left in the Western Conference at least. I don't know, though,

1646
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 2: Are they back to being a flirt in the final four?

1647
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 2: No one happened as a title contender. I don't think.

1648
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 2: Are they better than those other teams that we all

1649
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 2: had at the top of that third tier.

1650
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: Game out of the sixth seed currently, so they could

1651
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 1: get the guaranteed playoff spot.

1652
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 3: If we don't put them in the flirt category, we

1653
01:13:54,680 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 3: won't have anybody. We will have zero. Now, think they

1654
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 3: have gotten better recently. They've turned it on.

1655
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 1: It.

1656
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 3: We're talking about sixth best defense and thirteenth best offense.

1657
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 3: It sounds okay, it sounds it sounds good. And they

1658
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 3: just had a five game winning streak. They beat Denver,

1659
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 3: they beat Dallas. I think they are turning it on,

1660
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 3: and I think I could see them in the Final four.

1661
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 3: But I understand that it's more of a it's again

1662
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 3: one of those that could somehow go south and be

1663
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 3: a playing team. I mean, that's that's possible. I think

1664
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 3: playoff lock is a decent spot for them.

1665
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 1: Well, this is like this is.

1666
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 2: The difficulty of this like exercise, It's like thunder we know,

1667
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 2: we feel very confident they'll at least be in either

1668
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 2: the championship game or the conference finals. We feel pretty

1669
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 2: good about the Nuggets being very likely one of those

1670
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 2: other teams. Right. So then it's like, of all these

1671
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,799
Speaker 2: teams were going over, the Grizzlies, the Rockets, the Warriors

1672
01:14:53,840 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: now with Jimmy Butler obviously, the Wolves both lat Holy crap,

1673
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 2: Like try and pick. I don't know, like, try and

1674
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 2: pick who's it gonna be that you have the most

1675
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 2: confidence to go that far? That's the difficulty here. They

1676
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 2: the Wolves play the Rockets, the Thunder twice, and the

1677
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 2: Lakers coming out of this break here, so big, big

1678
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 2: games against all these teams that are like either ahead

1679
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 2: of them or right be you know, well most of them,

1680
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 2: all three of them. I guess they are ahead of them.

1681
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 2: But I think it's playoff lock all right, lock them in, baby,

1682
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 2: I do.

1683
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: Ahead or behind the LA teams, the Lakers and the Clippers. Wow,

1684
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 1: the Rockets, the Grizzlies, where do you want them at?

1685
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 3: And the Warriors are there?

1686
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: The Warriors are there?

1687
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 2: Oh that is tough.

1688
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 1: What a weird spot? Yeah, between the Lakers and the

1689
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 1: Clippers or you want them here. Keep the LA teams together. Sure, yeah,

1690
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 1: stay in Midwestern Minnesota, Indiana and Milwaukee. Good stuff.

1691
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 3: I'm fine putting them in the locks.

1692
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,719
Speaker 1: We're gonna at the end of this we're gonna elevate

1693
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: at least one team to the final four. The New

1694
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: Orleans Pelicans. They've had everybody on their team get hurt.

1695
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: They're thirteen and forty two worst in the Western Conference,

1696
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: twenty sixth on offense, twenty eighth in defense, twenty ninth

1697
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: in net rating. Any reason to put them anywhere else

1698
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: than the flag Seekers?

1699
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 2: No, they traded Brandon Ingram and two of their other

1700
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,719
Speaker 2: starters are injured for the season. Do you think they're Jones.

1701
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: Better than the Hornets and the Wizards?

1702
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah yeah. I think I

1703
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 3: think if we had a spoiler category, they'd be in

1704
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 3: there alongside the Nets. Yeahs, they can win some games.

1705
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, amongst the of the bad teams, they're one of

1706
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 1: the scariest.

1707
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 3: Agree with you there?

1708
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, you never know. When you're forty from C. J. McCollum.

1709
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 2: You're right, Zion's been playing well. Trey Murphy hoopen of course, yeah, right,

1710
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 2: those three guys can go off on any given night.

1711
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 2: So but they're in the bottom.

1712
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: But they're in the bottom, yeah, I mean atom they

1713
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: could have a great second half of the season and

1714
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 1: it's still finished under five hundred. Then enough games left.

1715
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: I don't think fifty five games they played, No, No, No,

1716
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 1: weird season for the Pelicans. They are the Grizzlies of

1717
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 1: this year? Is the Grizzlies last year?

1718
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 3: Everyone?

1719
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, happens to one team every single year. Hasn't

1720
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: happened to this team? The Oklahoma City Thunder. They are

1721
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: first in the Western Conference forty four and ten. They're

1722
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: fifth in offense first and defense first and net rating.

1723
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: They are good. So are they the number one team

1724
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: in the league? What only would be the only question?

1725
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 3: Overall?

1726
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 1: I mean number one in the West by far.

1727
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 2: They're eight games up eight on the Grizzlies.

1728
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: Crap.

1729
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're having one of the most dominant regular seasons

1730
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 2: we've ever seen. That's true, Like it's sort of getting

1731
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 2: overlooked a little bit. They're point differential plus twelve point

1732
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 2: nine points per game. That's better than any team has

1733
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 2: ever recorded. That will probably dip a little bit, I

1734
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 2: would assume, Like, again, they're so far clear of these teams.

1735
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 2: They might take their foot off the gas, but then

1736
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 2: they're so deep that they give other guys an opportunity

1737
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 2: and I can still win a lot of games even

1738
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 2: if you get some rest for some of your your

1739
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 2: main guys. They what I love about them. They never

1740
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 2: hurt themselves in games. They just take care of the ball.

1741
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 2: They just never They rarely turn it over, so they

1742
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 2: always like get a shot. That's important. Yep. I think

1743
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 2: we're just monitoring how Hartenstein and Chet sort of look

1744
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 2: and play together. That'll be things that we're gonna want

1745
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 2: to see here. They've barely done that because of injuries,

1746
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 2: but they are clearly the number one team in the

1747
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 2: Western Conference.

1748
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're gonna play hard the rest of the season.

1749
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 3: That's what they do. Shaye blocked a shot in the

1750
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 3: All Star Game. I'm from a three point shooter? What

1751
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 3: up with that? He will be trying. I am more

1752
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 3: interested to see when they get up double digits like

1753
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 3: they do. Actually, I always say they always They always

1754
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 3: get down double digits and then somehow turn it around

1755
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 3: and win a game that could hurt them in the

1756
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 3: postseason if they If that happens, that's what I'll watch

1757
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 3: the last twenty games. But either way, they're the top

1758
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 3: team in the Western Conference. Good luck in the NBA Finals.

1759
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 3: Hopefully we'll see perhaps yep, but.

1760
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 1: I think they burned being the number one team on

1761
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: our rankings here the net rating they've put up. They

1762
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: basically haven't had one of their two centers for I

1763
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: mean what, they played five games with both of them,

1764
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: so they do have a little something to play for.

1765
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: I think in the last thirty games here figuring out

1766
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: how Chet and Hartenstein work together. Like Chet's never played

1767
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 1: four like even going back to high school, he was

1768
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: a center always and now he's having to figure out

1769
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 1: how to play alongside a beg. And the question will

1770
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: be if they can figure out how to win games

1771
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: when they don't shoot well, because the defense will show up.

1772
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: And that's what they got thirty games to figure out.

1773
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: So cool number one.

1774
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a note from Kevin Pelton when it

1775
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 2: comes to the two big guys. They've started three games

1776
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 2: up front Hartenstein and Chet since Chet return on February seventh,

1777
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 2: and the early returns are encouraging a plus thirty margin

1778
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 2: in the fifty minutes of action the two guys, so

1779
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 2: you know, strong start at least the very small sample size.

1780
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 2: But watch that if you're watching thunder here, like how

1781
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 2: those guys fit. As we get into the postseason.

1782
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: The Phoenix Suns are eleventh in the Western Conference twenty

1783
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 1: six and twenty eight eleventh and offense twenty seventh and

1784
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 1: defense twentieth in net rating? Can they make a play in? Push? Like?

1785
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:08,799
Speaker 1: That's what people want to know about the Phoenix Suns.

1786
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 2: Nah, highest payroll in the league and we're talking about man,

1787
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 2: I think they can make the play in.

1788
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 1: They're only a game and a half out right now,

1789
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: game and a half out of the tenth seed.

1790
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're playing hopeful, which is pathetic.

1791
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: Yes, so pathetic.

1792
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 2: They lost six of their last seven before the All

1793
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 2: Star Break. One win against the Jazz in overtime too,

1794
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 2: it wasn't even like a dominant victory. Yeah, not great, No,

1795
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 2: And they have one of the hardest schedules.

1796
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:38,839
Speaker 3: The hardest schedule.

1797
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:39,799
Speaker 2: Is it the hardest?

1798
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's the hardest.

1799
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 2: That's not good for them, that's not good.

1800
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 3: No, As you said, twenty seventh rength defense, what was it?

1801
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 3: Extremely low?

1802
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 2: Fifth I saw, but yeah, it's probably depends.

1803
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: Twenty seven on VR.

1804
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so when you play good teams, there's just

1805
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 3: a bunch of games they're gonna lose. Here, you got

1806
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 3: the Thunder, they got kas they got Celtics twice, the Nicks,

1807
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 3: Grizzlies twice, Nuggets. That's tough.

1808
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 2: So what this will be Kevin Durant's last couple months

1809
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 2: with the Phoenix Suns sounds like it, probably right.

1810
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 3: He wants to make ten more games like they don't.

1811
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 2: Make the play in or like they get bounced and

1812
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 2: playing like you got it, shake it up and it's

1813
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 2: either trade booker.

1814
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 1: Or trade Durant exactly. And if you trade Booker, you're

1815
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 1: probably gonna have to trade Durant. Anyways, he ain't gonna

1816
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: want to see it down for a reord. Yeah, so

1817
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: what another thirty games plus one to two and the

1818
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: play in?

1819
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 3: Enjoy it?

1820
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? They did remove. I saw a footprint center from

1821
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 2: their arena getting a new name. Yeah, do we know

1822
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 2: what it is?

1823
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 1: I think right now it's just Phax Phoenix Arena because

1824
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: they don't have a spot.

1825
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 2: But this that could I say this because that could

1826
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 2: be a good thing because were they not in am

1827
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 2: I crazy? Were they in the finals? When they added

1828
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 2: footprint center? It was a two to two finals matchup,

1829
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 2: I think so, and they changed it to a footprint

1830
01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 2: center and then they lose, and then you knows all

1831
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 2: that great sense, I think it's cursed that footprint. You're

1832
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 2: probably ready out of here.

1833
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: They're going to run in the arena like sorry, we

1834
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 1: can't ever change it. We shall see. The Portland Trailblazers

1835
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 1: are thirteenth in the West, twenty three and thirty two,

1836
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: twenty fourth on offense, twenty fourth in defense, twenty fifth

1837
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: in that rating. Though they've been very enjoyable to watch

1838
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 1: in the month of February, and their defense is good.

1839
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 1: They went ten and one, yeah, over a stretch, but

1840
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 1: then they lost three games right before they all start break.

1841
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 1: But still, but still they were suddenly a good They

1842
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 1: already hit their over under I think probably yeah, because

1843
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: the must have gotten a low twenties. So that's pretty

1844
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: impressive with still a lot of basketball to be played.

1845
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: But they are not a play and hopeful, I don't think,

1846
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 1: because they're just too many good teams, so they have

1847
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 1: to spoiler. They have to.

1848
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,560
Speaker 2: That's they're spoiler spoiler, and a good one at that.

1849
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, but yeah, you can call them

1850
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 1: the Nets. Yeah, I think that's of the western they

1851
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 1: played defense. There's some vets that are around that you're like,

1852
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 1: you still got your bets around for them. It's like

1853
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 1: you didn't trade Jeremy Grant Robert Williams for the Nets.

1854
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 1: It's like you didn't trade Cam Johnson odd But whatever,

1855
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: it makes your team decent. So yeah, I've been enjoying

1856
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: the Portland Blazers.

1857
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 2: You brought up Jeremy Grant. That maybe the first time

1858
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 2: we've talked about him all season long. Yeah, outside of

1859
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 2: maybe trade rumors. Yes, Shoe Says had a note in

1860
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 2: his Power Rankings that Jeremy Grant's usage rade is nineteen

1861
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 2: point three percent, down from twenty five point five percent

1862
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 2: last season, so sub twenty third biggest drop among two

1863
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty six players who have played at least

1864
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 2: five hundred minutes in each of the last two seasons.

1865
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 2: And it comes with a huge drop inefficiency as well,

1866
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 2: because he hasn't been good either. No, even though the

1867
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 2: usage percentage has dropped, he's shooting Jeremy Grant thirty eight

1868
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:45,719
Speaker 2: percent from the field.

1869
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 3: This year.

1870
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 2: That's pretty He's not small, He's the bigger guy. It's

1871
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 2: his worse since the Sixers rookie season.

1872
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 1: Wow, and he's I mean, he's basically given up playing defense,

1873
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 1: Like I mean, Jeremy Grant is kind of.

1874
01:23:59,000 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 2: Just a scorer.

1875
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. Good. Literally, Damian Lillard got him paid

1876
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 1: and that's like, I'm out of here. Yeah, good, defriends

1877
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 1: with Dame Lillard.

1878
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 3: I guess.

1879
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 1: The Sacramento King's currently ninth in the West. They're twenty

1880
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 1: eight and twenty seventh, eighth in offense, twenty second defense,

1881
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 1: thirteenth in net rating. I'm a bull's doing here. I

1882
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: literally just watched a game where Zach Levine had thirty

1883
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 1: two points and tenn assists through forty three minutes and

1884
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,919
Speaker 1: then he didn't touch the ball at all as DeRozan

1885
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 1: just bricked away shot after shot after shot, And I said,

1886
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 1: I love this. I would build this team too.

1887
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 2: They're three and three. I believe in the Zach Lavigne era.

1888
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 1: So that was very bulls Like that was crazy.

1889
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 2: And they have a tough schedule I think remaining as well.

1890
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 2: So I mean, are they just a play and hopeful

1891
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.

1892
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 3: They're definitely not a lot. Their defense has slipped a lot.

1893
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 3: They are bulls West. I guess because they're a team

1894
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 3: that could outscore you on a given night. But if

1895
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 3: their defense ain't there, they ain't playing for Doug the

1896
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 3: way they were right at the beginning, then no, you

1897
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 3: cannot call them a lock. It's it's a sad, sad

1898
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 3: season for the Sacramento Kings, but they can make the playing.

1899
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 2: Kings are sons battling for a playing spot.

1900
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: Probably Kings have better vibes, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1901
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: And there are a little bit ahead one and a

1902
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 1: half games. It's not a lot, no, but.

1903
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

1904
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: They're all playing hopeful. Do you have them ahead of

1905
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 1: the Magic in the heat or below the Magic in

1906
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 1: the heat?

1907
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm below.

1908
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: It's just because of their conference. Yeah, I would keep

1909
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:48,719
Speaker 2: them just ahead of They have to be with the Suns,

1910
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 2: they got to be like joined at the hip. Funny

1911
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 2: thing about them having a better record under Doug Christy

1912
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 2: than Mike Brown, they do, of course, but they've been

1913
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 2: worse statistically compared to obviously when they were with Mike Brown.

1914
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 2: They just have been so much better in the clutch games,

1915
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 2: like in close games under Doug Christy under Mike Brown,

1916
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 2: which was always so confusing because we were like, they

1917
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 2: have two of the best clutch players in the league

1918
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 2: in Fox and DeRozan at the time, and they were

1919
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 2: losing every clutch game. And so that's that's you know,

1920
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 2: either just bounce back, come back to the mean a

1921
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 2: little bit. But they're fifteen to nine under Dug.

1922
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 1: But DeRozan, you live in diets a rosen Man, like

1923
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna be shooting his shots. He's getting the ball

1924
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 1: in clutch time. He's a great clutch player. But if

1925
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 1: you go fifty percent, you win one game and you'll

1926
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 1: lose the next game.

1927
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how it is. Yep.

1928
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 1: The San Antonio Spurs are a twelfth in the Western Conference.

1929
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 1: We thought they were gonna be making a playoff push

1930
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 1: and it ain't going well. Twenty three and twenty nine

1931
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 1: sixteen eighteen nineteen offense defense net ratings for the Spurs.

1932
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: They obviously got de Aaron Fox at the trade deadline

1933
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 1: and they currently sit well, that's actually a chunky a

1934
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 1: little bit here, three and a half games.

1935
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, out of tenth in the Western Conference. It's slipped

1936
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,759
Speaker 2: here even with Fox. Records not great, but the Fox

1937
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 2: acquisition is it's for next year. If we're being honest, definitely,

1938
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 2: but this is a they're in the bottom. They're in

1939
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 2: the bottom. I don't see them as a plan hopeful. Now.

1940
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 3: They're a flag seeker that won the flag two seasons

1941
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 3: ago when they got Wemby, and now they could literally

1942
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 3: do it again. It's possible. It is possible. It's too

1943
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 3: far a gap, I think for them to overcome the

1944
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 3: three and a half points three and a half games.

1945
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 3: Excuse me that they are behind the Golden State Warriors

1946
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 3: for tenth. I think it's a little too far back.

1947
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 3: They were to say, but it's a tough Western Conference.

1948
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 2: They were like eighteen and sixteen. At one point they

1949
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 2: were eighth I think in the West is maybe the

1950
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 2: highest they ever got this season, but then the defense

1951
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,600
Speaker 2: sort of fell off a cliff and now they have

1952
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 2: five wins since because they're twenty three and yeah, twenty nine.

1953
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 2: They played two games in Austin this week. I forgot

1954
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 2: they did that little uh, I don't know, community outreach. No,

1955
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 2: I forget the film last year. Yeah, okay, but they're

1956
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 2: playing in it's this week or this week in or

1957
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 2: something like that. Two games in Austin, So that'd be

1958
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 2: cool for the people in Austin, keep Boston weird, Keep

1959
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 2: Wemby weird, Keep Wemby weird. Bringing in a book to

1960
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 2: the All Star Game.

1961
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: So you rarely see an NBA player getting bullied, but

1962
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,679
Speaker 1: I felt like Joki was bullying, Like, yeah, that's nerd.

1963
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah he really was. He disgusted.

1964
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you ever needed a book, it was during

1965
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 2: that All Star to turn them in. That's the perfect

1966
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 2: time to kill a bunch of minutes and hours.

1967
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 3: You read it on the bench, would be hilarious.

1968
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: That guy was doing it the book at the end, Yeah,

1969
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 1: it's good.

1970
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:39,560
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Well that was going on in the

1971
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 2: who was it the NFL.

1972
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 1: Drown Yeah, yeah, inter Excellence or something like that.

1973
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 2: He was reading.

1974
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 1: I bet Wenby's read that book. I wonder what he's reading.

1975
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1976
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 1: The Utah Jazz, they're fourteenth in the West, thirteen and

1977
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 1: forty one, eighteenth in offense, twenty ninth in defense, and

1978
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 1: twenty eighth in net rating. They are flag seekers. Yes,

1979
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: have won some games recently, they have. I'll catch you

1980
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 1: by surprise.

1981
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Pelicans, Jazz and Hornets are all at thirteen wins. Yes,

1982
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 2: and we and we we don't believe anyone is catching

1983
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 2: I put that in near quotes the Wizards for the

1984
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 2: worst record, and it does feel like then the Raptors

1985
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 2: are sort of too good.

1986
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: Uh, seventeen wins.

1987
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the Jazz are with the Pels and

1988
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 2: the Hornets here, it's like they're obviously going in that

1989
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 2: bottom tier. It's like they have to be with those teams,

1990
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 2: and just where are we sliding? Do we have a

1991
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 2: little more faith in them?

1992
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,679
Speaker 1: You feeling you're feeling dusty. So what you're saying trying

1993
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 1: to pick a nut dust team between the thirteen win Hornets,

1994
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 1: the thirteen win Jazz, and the thirteen win Pelicans game, if.

1995
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 2: You guys are for a little nut dust bowld challenge.

1996
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 2: We picked the crappy teams, and uh, whoever, whoever has

1997
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 2: the worst, I guess whoever has the war? How did

1998
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 2: we do it? Whoever's the worst has to do the

1999
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 2: short winds?

2000
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2001
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, who who do you want?

2002
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 1: Hornets, Jazz and Pelicans.

2003
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are our three teams. Let's do it.

2004
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 1: I'll take leftovers. I don't care.

2005
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't really care either.

2006
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, are gonna lose a lot. Pelicans are gonna lose

2007
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 3: a lot. I'll take the Hornets.

2008
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 2: I don't want them. I don't want the hornets. I

2009
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 2: want between the Jazz and the hornets. Oh sorry, the

2010
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:24,719
Speaker 2: Pelicans and the jazz. Give me the give me the Pelicans,

2011
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:25,839
Speaker 2: all right, give me the Pelicans.

2012
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 1: I'm a big jazz guy. All right, let's go.

2013
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 2: Dust Bull is back. There's a lot of people asking,

2014
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 2: come on, bring it back.

2015
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:33,719
Speaker 1: That's right, the worst perfect.

2016
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 2: There we go.

2017
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 1: And if if the Wizards end up with more wins

2018
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 1: than either of these three teams, we all drink the dust.

2019
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

2020
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,600
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, so people out there will be like

2021
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 2: crazy for Wizards wins if they could somehow jump.

2022
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 1: Let's go Bryce, all three of them. Big Bryce sends

2023
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 1: a ball guy, now, yeah, big Johnny joosang.

2024
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 2: Fan Collier is playing really really well.

2025
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Galore, that's exciting.

2026
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I got the Pels, You've got the Jazz, Tack

2027
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 2: got them here. So okay, yeah, let's go take a

2028
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 2: look here at our mid season tiers. Oh wow. So

2029
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 2: for the podcast listener, four teams currently in our S

2030
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 2: tier in our title contenders, Thunder, Celtics, Cavs, and Nuggets.

2031
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 2: We have one team right now in the final four flirts,

2032
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 2: that's the Knicks, and then we have a bunch of

2033
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 2: playoff lock Grizzlies, Rockets, Lakers, Clippers, Wolves. We also have

2034
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 2: the Warriors. There I jumped a few teams from the East.

2035
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 2: We have the Pacers, Bucks, and Pistons. In the fourth

2036
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 2: play in hopefuls, it's the MAVs, Heat, Magic, Kings, Sons, Hawks, Bulls,

2037
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 2: and Raptors. And then in the flag seekers in order, Spurs, Sixers, Nets, Blazers, Pelicans, Hornets,

2038
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 2: Jazz and Wizards. Do we want to change anything?

2039
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 1: Do we want anybody else out there in the flirts?

2040
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 1: That's what That's what I'm looking at. We got four

2041
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 1: nine teams in the playoff locks. One in the flirts?

2042
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 1: Who gets bumped up? We gotta add one more team?

2043
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 1: Can't flirting with so weird?

2044
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 2: Like I have the most confidence, I guess I'm only

2045
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,759
Speaker 2: thinking about the Western Conference. I have the most conference

2046
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 2: in confidence in the Warriors and the Lakers.

2047
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 1: And back to the old guys.

2048
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and.

2049
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,759
Speaker 2: Obviously the huge additions. Yeah, the deadline, like they added

2050
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 2: two of the better players Jimmy for the Warriors, and

2051
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 2: looking for the Lakers, people.

2052
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,799
Speaker 1: Will be saying, oh you guys are just in ESPN's

2053
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 1: pocket next to the Lakers and the Warriors, and the

2054
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 1: Final four flirt stay tuned to the second half of

2055
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:29,719
Speaker 1: the NBA season.

2056
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, but then again, you know, we don't have

2057
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 2: to have somebody out there, you don't.

2058
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 3: We don't because we have two teams and the.

2059
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 2: Title in the Thunder and Nuggets. We're basically saying we

2060
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 2: think those two teams are going to be in the

2061
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 2: conference finals.

2062
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 1: We got a top five teams, you know, if you

2063
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 1: look at it that way, the Celtics, Cats, Nuggets, Nicks.

2064
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 1: I think that's fair.

2065
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 2: You want to make the case for anyone else in

2066
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 2: the Final four Flirts.

2067
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 3: I'm going to Houston Rockets. I know it's a crazy one.

2068
01:32:57,600 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 3: It's a crazy one, but they play the Utah Jazz

2069
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 3: three more times. That's going to build their confidence. Put

2070
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 3: the Jazz in the confidence builders category. It's I could

2071
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 3: make a case for so many of those, whether it's

2072
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 3: grizz the Rockets, the Lakers, the Clippers, the Walls, sure yeah,

2073
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 3: all of them, the Warriors, yeah yeah.

2074
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 2: But that's the thing. So they're saying, take all these

2075
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 2: teams and just put them up a tier, or we

2076
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 2: just leave them. But it's okay, yeah, all right, there

2077
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 2: it is exactly has I just said it for the

2078
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:30,680
Speaker 2: podcast listeners. We're not changing a thing.

2079
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 1: We nailed it perfect, just like our preseason. Okay.

2080
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 2: I do have one keep it up, JD. One question.

2081
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 2: If you had to pick one team from our our

2082
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 2: tiers here that could make us look the most silly

2083
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 2: for the restless season in the postseason, what would.

2084
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:49,560
Speaker 1: You pick most silly? I guess I would go for

2085
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks. Okay, they would They seem the most have

2086
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 1: the most chance of jumping multiple tiers, I think.

2087
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, they could definitely be a final four flirt. Yeah,

2088
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 3: I'm with that as well.

2089
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 1: Because I think we had didn't we Do we have

2090
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 1: Sons as final four flirts in preseason or do we

2091
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 1: have them as title contenders? Man, we were obsessed with

2092
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:09,960
Speaker 1: that Olympic tournament.

2093
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had the Sons at the bottom of Final

2094
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 2: four four. Yes.

2095
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2096
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 3: But last year, even after the NBA trade deadline, when

2097
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 3: the MAVs went and got PJ. Washington and Daniel Gafford,

2098
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 3: nobody really had faith in those acquisitions, and then they

2099
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:26,599
Speaker 3: went to the NBA Finals and the way they've been

2100
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 3: playing recently without every single big guy having to play

2101
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 3: Walker Kessler Edwards as their center. I mean, that's it's

2102
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:37,599
Speaker 3: amazing what they're doing. They're playing omax, they're playing everybody

2103
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:39,679
Speaker 3: off their bench, and j Kid is getting them to play.

2104
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 3: Sometimes he does postgame press conferences, sometimes he doesn't. You

2105
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 3: never know what that team, We never know what that.

2106
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 3: But they are playing extremely hard, so I wouldn't be

2107
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:51,519
Speaker 3: surprised at all. But but are they going to get

2108
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 3: their guys back? That's a that's a fair question.

2109
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 2: My answer who for who will make us feel the

2110
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 2: dumbest for putting on where we did. It'll be either

2111
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 2: the Kings or Sons you just watch, you just watch.

2112
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 1: Going into the flag Seekers or no, no, no, you

2113
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 1: think they're going to take off?

2114
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,639
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, one of them will, because now I've completely

2115
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 2: given up in them and like they've just embarrassed me.

2116
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 2: I believe I get on. I convince myself both of them.

2117
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 2: Both teams are guilty, Kings and Kings and Sons. And

2118
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 2: I will say, now that the Footprint Center's gone, it'll

2119
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 2: probably be the Suns you watch for that run coming.

2120
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 3: I don't want to be the ESPN to say it's

2121
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 3: got to be the Lakers or the Warriors up there.

2122
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 3: But the Lakers played Denver three more times, that's a lot.

2123
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:36,679
Speaker 3: If they could just stomp the Nuggets three more times,

2124
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 3: then right, they be the team.

2125
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 2: Okay, perhaps, Okay, let's hear what you guys think. Sounding

2126
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 2: off in the stream team let us know in the

2127
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 2: YouTube comments. Tweet at us at no dunk saying, you fools,

2128
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 2: how did you put so and so here? You don't

2129
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 2: believe in this team? This team needs to be hard.

2130
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 1: That's fine, have at it, go nuts, most disrespected. Who's

2131
01:35:59,439 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 1: going to get mad?

2132
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 2: I guess maybe Heat, don't.

2133
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2134
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 2: Maybe like I was gonna say, Grizzlies, yeah, because like

2135
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:16,639
Speaker 2: they have well, I mean, they're obviously the second best

2136
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 2: team in the least. If I guess Grizzlies or Rockets

2137
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 2: will be like, you don't believe in us?

2138
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 1: That's true.

2139
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of people actually except now

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Speaker 2: and I can't wait. But let's call there. That's a big,

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Speaker 2: juicy podcast for you. No problem though, because this one

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Speaker 2: will last hit to Friday, We'll be back with the

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Speaker 2: Drop podcast here in the Classic Factory, Basketball does come

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Speaker 2: Back tonight's sort of one game on, but no show tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: From the No Dunks universe, we'll come back, like I

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Speaker 2: said on Friday, because a bunch of teams playing on

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Speaker 2: Thursday night that all said, no bus returns tomorrow our

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Speaker 2: Survivor podcast, we're doing a cast reaction once again. We

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Speaker 2: had a lot of fun doing this last year, myself,

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Speaker 2: Trey and j D. Unfortunately, no Nora tomorrow. She's up

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Speaker 2: in Toronto, up in the snow. Toronto's seeing some fam

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Speaker 2: but she'll be back for episode one when the season

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Speaker 2: starts next week, well next week surviv forty eight. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: No Bust has its own YouTube feed, its own podcast feeds,

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Speaker 2: So if you're a survivorvan or you want to become one,

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Speaker 2: you should really watch or listen to our show. We

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Speaker 2: have a blast and I can't wait to do the

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Speaker 2: cast reaction with these guys. Tomorrow eleven am Eastern is

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Speaker 2: when we're gonna go live. But until then, clever.

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Speaker 1: Bros, you heard it here first, have a great time,

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Speaker 1: turn up.

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Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome, Thanks for joining us, and remember

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Speaker 3: we'll be hearing from the mass fans soon. They're just

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Speaker 3: a mad bunch there are none anymore? All come on,

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Speaker 3: they're outside, they're at the funeral.

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Speaker 2: I say that lovingly. I would almost be upset to

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Speaker 2: be a mask fan. You should be, yeah, yeah, but okay,

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Speaker 2: that's why we're going to hear from them.

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Speaker 3: They're just mad.

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Speaker 2: Prove us wrong, trouve us wrong. Brace today people,