WEBVTT - Minisode: Melanie Samuels & "Shape Up" 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:19.320 Hi. 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:19.759 Everyone. 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:23.920 In today's special episode of How Rude Tanneritos, we will 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:27.640 be discussing eating disorders and diet culture as portrayed in 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:31.360 the Shape Up episode. If these topics are triggering in 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.160 any sort of way, please feel the freedom to skip 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:37.720 this episode and we'll catch you next week. We invited 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.360 a holistic nutritionist and coach, Melanie Samuels, to join us 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.440 for this important discussion, and she has a really eye 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:49.000 opening approach to nutrition that helps people improve their relationship 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.480 with food. If you, or anyone you know is struggling 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:55.680 with disordered eating, we encourage you to visit the website 0:00:56.040 --> 0:01:00.200 National Eatingdisorders dot org or call the National Alliances for 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:04.920 Eating Disorders helpline at one eight six six six six 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:08.800 two one two three five. Please be well and take 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:12.280 care of yourselves. We love you. Hello, Hey, what's up? 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:12.600 Hi? 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:14.040 What's up? Hey? 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.080 I'm feeling great? What I'm feeling great? 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:16.440 You are? 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:17.200 How are you feeling? 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:18.040 Hired? 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:19.080 Like? I? 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:21.600 Well, it's been it's been a it's been a busy 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:23.440 week and it's been one of those weeks where you're like, 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.640 I didn't like I did things, but I feel like 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:30.480 seventy percent of what took up my time was driving 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.760 to the things. Oh yeah, you know, yeah, especially it 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.520 was like I had to go the West Side over 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.880 to the valley, to Pasadena. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.360 To yeah, so yeah. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.160 But I did get to volunteer some more this week 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:48.240 with the Baby List and nice helping support some of 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.920 the LA fire victims, which was really great, great, a 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.360 huge line, lots of people, got all kinds of stuff 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:55.200 that they really needed. 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.720 So it was it was, uh, it was a really 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:59.920 great day. Two days. Actually it was great two days. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:03.800 But my back is definitely thinking otherwise because I you 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:05.440 know me, I'm like I jump in and I'm like, 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:09.560 you know what I should do? I should organize unloading 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.519 the trucks. So I was wondering slipping things. 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:15.440 On giant dollies from one floor to another. You have 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.200 a muscle, baby. 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:18.680 Let you go and you lift everything. 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:21.520 But well it was like me and then like you know, 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:23.640 a bunch of like heavy guys and I'm like, I 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:25.040 got it? What am I? Why? 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:26.919 Why do I need to do that? But it was 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:28.320 very glad. I just like I like. 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:30.800 Jumping in and helping and like whatever. The thing that 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.120 looks the most sort of arduous and difficult, I'm like 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:34.960 I'll help tackle that. 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.320 Good for you. That's a good quality. Yeah, that's a 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.080 good I mean your back. They might not think so, 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:40.840 but I think yeah. Back. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:45.679 I definitely was like, oh, high forty three, how's it going, 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:45.960 I'll go. 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:48.240 Lower back. 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:52.520 Yeah, No, just tired a lot of stuff. I went 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.760 worked out hard today every day. 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:57.400 This one good for you. Pus the days that I've 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:59.000 I know, back hurts. 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.280 That's what happens you work out every day. 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:03.560 I know I've been working out every day. I don't know. 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:07.200 I'm just I'll take the streak where I can get it, 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.320 because then it'll be I'll just be like, ah, okay. 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.760 Well And as we're recording this, it's January thirtieth. Why 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.320 is January so long? Like I feel like it's the 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.160 seventy fifth day of January. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:23.880 Yes, and it does. It feels like, how are we 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:28.040 still in January? But I feel like once February starts, 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.320 it's going to be November real quick, you know what. 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:34.440 I mean, It does go quick, especially once you go quick. 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.440 But in the holidays, you know, Mother's. 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:38.880 Day and Father's Okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, I 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:40.120 can't even I can't even. 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:45.320 I'm sure target is already selling like Fourth of July decoration, 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:46.119 Oh for sure. 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.320 Yeah, I've stocked up on my Halloween. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.680 I'm putting it up right afterbr right after Valentine's Day. 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.320 So you know that's probably appropriate. 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:56.760 Forgive us the start on things, you know what I mean? 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:57.080 Yeah? 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.320 Just really yeah, back to school Halloween style, you know, 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:02.920 so I'm here for it. 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.120 Wear a costume on the first day of school. I 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:06.160 think there's a niche, you know. 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.160 I think I think more people should wear costumes in 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:10.720 their daily life. 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:11.920 Yes, I think we should just. 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.360 Start showing up cosplaying whatever. 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:15.600 Just whatever you're into. 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.240 This would be a great Like ice Breaker is, if 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:22.040 you wear a costume representing whatever it is you're currently into, 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.719 whether you're binge watching Breaking Bad, or you're into a 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.200 certain podcast how tan Rito's. You could wear your merch, 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.000 I don't know, whatever it is. You can just wear 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.520 something that represents your current obsession. 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.120 You could wear a shirt with a turtle yes, on 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:39.080 a skateboard from from our from our merch. You could 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:40.640 do that if you want to do that is a 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:44.560 great idea. But I it's a great idea for like 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.039 those of us that like doing ridiculous stuff. 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.279 I if you did this like at work. 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.640 And I just imagine someone like my husband being told like, hey, 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:57.719 you have to he'd be like. 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:03.400 I quit, Oh, he would never he'd wear like a 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.120 Dodger shirt that you know that's. 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:12.479 Yeah, he wears something, Uh, snarky and sarcastic. Which more credit. Yeah, 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.000 but yeah, I think maybe we should just make everyone 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.960 on our on our zoom do that when we record 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:19.440 next week. 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:22.600 Everyone dress up, dress up. No, I mean you can 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:23.240 if you want to. 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.000 Hey, don't challenge me, don't threaten me with a good time. 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.360 Give us a platform for a stupid idea, because we 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:31.440 will take it. 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.720 We'll take it, we will run with it. Yes. 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:37.080 Yeah, which And speaking of I think, uh, do we 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.200 talk about this last week that people were enjoying our 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:44.320 unhinged minisode where we played every character. 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.440 I don't know have we talked about that since it aired. 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:47.360 I don't think we have. 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:48.840 I don't think we have. 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:52.240 People apparently, I think they liked it. I think we. 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.440 Were getting a lot of comments that they liked it, 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.159 that it was ridiculous. 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.080 I love it. Uh that we they don't know why 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:01.960 we don't have that. 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:05.320 We're not egot winners at this point, given the quality 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:06.040 of performance. 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:11.039 Sure, but you know, well we're working on it, guys, 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:11.840 we're working on it. 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:15.760 But but yeah, it was I think people enjoyed our craziness. 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:19.040 Yeah, well, I just hope that it wasn't confusing. I 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.200 did see some comments people were like, I could picture 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.960 the episode in my mind as you and I were 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:27.800 reading through it. I think the voiceover the voiceovers are 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.040 what kind of threw me for a loop. Was because 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:34.200 you're reading Rusty's letter in Stephanie's voice or you know, 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:35.000 so right. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.719 Yeah, that was it was. It was, it was layered, 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:38.680 you know what I mean. 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.880 Like it was we I think like they picked the 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:46.640 most challenging episode, like not only are you playing another character, 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:51.000 but you're playing another character reading another character's note as 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:53.560 though that, Yeah, it's it. 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.640 Was a lot. I'm confused just listening to you. Yeah, 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:57.800 it's it was a lot. But it was fun. Well. 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.960 Luckily the fan of Ritos know the shows, yes, so 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:04.400 than we do way better than we yes, yes. And 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:08.040 speaking of shows that they know, we just recently did 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:12.160 the the gym episode, the shape Up episode was it 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:16.000 shape Up? Yeah, shape up episode where we wanted to 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:21.200 bring on our friend an incredible guest and nutritionist and 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.560 just all around wonderful person who you guys have heard 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:28.800 us mentioned before. Mel Samuels, who worked on Fuller House 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.880 of the famous the Kim and Mel duo that you 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.440 guys hear us mentioned so often. Yep, yep, and we 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:39.000 love her and she is a certified holistic nutritionist and coach. 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:42.600 So I'm really excited to get her take on that episode, 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.600 and especially you know she watched it growing up, Like, 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:50.040 what was it? How did that you know, affect our audience? Yeah, 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.400 people that watched her thought today, I'm really. 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:55.240 Glad to have it and die in the nineties versus 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.160 how we think about it. Wow, Like this is going 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.600 to be a rich conversation. I'm ready for it. 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:03.680 Yeah, yea, for sure. All right, Well let's let's Mel, 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:09.760 Let's do it. Let her in. It's so good to. 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:10.600 See your face. 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:14.600 It's been so yes, I know it's been since our 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:19.240 what our our PTT uh Health Water Reunion. 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:23.360 Oh yeah, well you have to explain almost every word 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:24.720 of that sentence because. 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.080 When we almost got kicked out of arrest. 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:30.040 So pt T. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:31.840 Is our little group with our port. We call it 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:36.000 Porch Talk Time. It's Jody, Me, Melanie, and Kim. The 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:39.000 aforementioned Kim Moffatt, who we talk about frequently on this 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:40.440 show and. 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:42.640 Who has co hosted this show. Oh yeah, she did. 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:44.920 She co hosted an episode where I couldn't be there. 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.720 So she's been on the pod. Now you're on the pod. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.120 This is a great little mini. 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:54.400 Reunion for us. Excited. I'm excited for this topic. I'm 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:57.960 excited to talk about this episode. I'm really really, really 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.480 curious about your thoughts. And thank you so much for 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:02.840 joining us too, Like, this is great of you to 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:04.720 take time out of your day. 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.360 Oh well, thank you so much for having me. I'm 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.280 so excited to be here. And just a heads up, 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.280 I have a sick kiddo at home today, so if 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.319 there are any potential interruptions, I apologize. 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.720 I was just about it. I was just about to ask. 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:22.480 How's the He's good. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:27.079 Yeah, she's almost three and a half, which is so wild. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:31.880 Time really does fly. But these preschool germs are no jokes. 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:37.000 It's when they're that little. Never just know. 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:41.400 It's like every you know, fair game, so making it, 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:41.920 making it. 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.120 If you need a time or you need to put 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.800 yourself in time out, you need to Yeah, just just 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:48.000 let us know it's no problem. 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:49.520 Thank you. I appreciate it. 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.120 Yeah, okay, So tell us, Okay, we gave a little 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.920 brief intro, but tell us what your job is, your title, 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:59.880 tell us a little bit about the company you founded 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.520 with Melissa Kolia, tell us everything. 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:08.240 Yes, So I am a certified nutritional therapy practitioner, which 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.880 is just kind of a fancy way of saying holistic nutritionist. 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:15.920 And I have my own private practice, but right now 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:20.240 I have been focusing mostly on Live Well, Lead Well, 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.640 which is the company that Melissa Coulier, Dave's wife. I'm 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:27.840 sure people can make that connection she and I founded, 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:32.160 and it is a holistic wellness company that helps female 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:36.000 leaders prioritize their health. So whether that looks like a 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:39.680 government official or a C suite woman or even someone 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.839 who's the leader of their household, leadership can take on 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:48.400 so many different roles, and so we help implement nutrition, 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:54.040 functional movement, and mindfulness through breathwork and journaling and things 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.079 like that into your day so that you can handle 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.600 stressors better. Because stressors aren't going anywhere, but the way 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.800 in which we react to them is the variable here. 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:08.960 And when you have your health. You can do anything 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:10.600 with more confidence and more clarity. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:14.200 Yeah, And I just want to Mel, you've you and 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:18.920 I have worked together, which I mean I still to 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:20.680 this day, I'm like, I just hear your voice in 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:22.360 my head of like, Okay, if you're gonna, you know, 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.199 have a little treat, you have a treat and then you. 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.960 Know, have a vegetable like just you know, like it's now, 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:28.200 it's not stress, you know. 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.280 But I also have to see you have been working 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:35.200 with my mom who has diabetes and is really trying 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:39.480 to control it with you know, health and diet and exercise, 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.000 and also you just made such a huge difference for her. 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:44.880 You really, I can't. 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.520 Tell you how many times she's been like, oh my gosh, 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:50.319 I just love Mel. I didn't expect, you know, the 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:55.319 holistic part of looking at what food does for you. 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.559 What is the you know, the stressor the thing you know, 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.600 what do I turn to food for whatever? 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.880 But you've just you helped so many people. 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.240 I'm so excited to have you a part of this 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.480 conversation because it is super important. 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.240 Thank you. And oh my gosh, I love your mom 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:11.400 so much. 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:14.480 She was one of our first guests. 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:14.760 Yeah. 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:16.000 Oh amazing. 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.400 Yeah, you know, it's interesting because you know, everyone has 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:23.520 a food story, and even just between yourself and your mom, 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.839 your food stories are totally different. And I think it's 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.640 something that isn't talked about a lot, and sometimes the 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:31.920 thoughts that you have in your head about food and 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:35.679 about your body, there's a very different conversation when you're 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:37.320 having it with yourself than when you're saying it out 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.600 loud to someone else, because you can learn so much 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.480 more about why you think the way you do about 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:46.160 health or food when you really figure. 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:47.439 Out the roots of that story. 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.200 And I think this episode is such an interesting sort 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:56.400 of snippet on that for DJ, which was so relatable I. 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.040 Think for so many girls, including myself, watching that. 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.800 Yeah, and I would just the shock of like what 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:05.000 the diet culture sort of was of that era. 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:07.520 And I mean I remember it well. 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:11.160 You know, everything was sugar free, fat free, you know, 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:14.920 it was all about how to lose weight and how 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:18.000 to stay skinny and how to you know, and I'm look, 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:21.360 we haven't gotten completely away from that, but it was 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:26.640 just such an interesting, interesting kind of juxtaposition between today's 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:31.000 conversations and nineteen ninety conversations. 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.959 You know, even in the way that and it's a pendulum, yeah. 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:35.520 And even in the way that the adults handled it 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.760 with DJ, like you know some of the things they said, 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.199 Andrey and I were like, no, what do you oh 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:42.520 you oh, don't say that. 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:43.439 Don't that's no. 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:46.280 But in one of the early scenes, Becky walks into 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:50.800 the kitchen and finds DJ taping pictures of supermodels onto 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:56.240 the fridge as her inspiration, so she won't eat when 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.520 she sees these pictures as she's going to the refrigerator. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:00.600 And I was like, Becky, that's a red flag, Like 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.640 come on, she would and she gives some good advice 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.920 about healthy eating, but it's just like, did no one 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:09.080 see any of these red flags coming? DJ was screaming 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.319 it was like yeah, across her forehead. 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:11.640 Yeah. 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.599 And the ice pops right like she's having a conversation 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:15.240 with everyone. 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:17.040 Yeah, She's like, no, I'm just sucking on an ice 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.440 cube while everyone's eating cake, totally normal, and all the 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:20.440 adults are like, okay. 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:21.160 Yeah. 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.680 There was a lot of those little miss signals, and 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:25.640 that was one of my biggest notes. And the other 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:29.320 interesting thing about Andrew you had said what Becky said 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:31.840 was I think you know, this is what makes it 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:35.240 such a delicate subject because because I think that people 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:39.360 have a tendency to want to solve other people's problems, 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.520 and it's sort of a form of a love language, right, 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.200 and I'm guilty of that as a parent and a friend. Right, 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.040 I want to solve your problem right then and there 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.760 and provide a solution for you. But the problem is 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:50.880 is when Becky says, you know, well you just have 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.560 to eat like this and here's the standard meal plan, 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:58.000 that already makes DJ feel like she has failed because 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.360 she's like, well, what if she's already doing that and 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.160 it's not working for her body, or what if she 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.880 doesn't know how to do that and enjoy it. So 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.240 it's sort of you know, it's a very common thing 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.680 for people to just say, well, just do this and 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.040 this is the result that you will get. 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:15.480 Yeah, yeah, And it sort of categorizes food into good 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:19.000 food or bad food, where there's that there's a balance. 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.360 You know, DJ's so all or nothing. She's like, no, 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.640 I can't eat I have to have ice pops instead, 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.640 and it's like, well, no, there's a there's a healthy 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:30.000 balance between eating good foods and then indulging occasionally but 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:34.040 not going so overboard, which she does in this episode 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:34.440 right well. 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.880 And I think too, like it's such an important part 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.920 of it is also talking about like the development at 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:44.200 that age. It's so you know, your body is like 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:48.680 you're still not through puberty really completely and through you know, 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.560 you're like still stretching and growing and doing all of 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.760 these things, and so you know, it's it was so 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.880 hard to see, and it was so hard to see. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:06.080 Like DJ, who is not at all a large girl, 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.920 to be discussing it and no one's saying like. 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.880 You're healthy, You're fine, you know, like everyone was like, oh, 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:18.120 I can see why, and you're like wait, no, wait, wait, 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.880 we're just jumping on this board or on this bandwagon. 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:26.280 Except it was interesting Steph's character, and I thought this 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:30.080 was so perfect because it reminded me of you personally, Jodi, 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:31.800 because you say it how it is and you call 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.880 it out. And she was like, I mean, I'll keep 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.000 the secret, but I don't love this. That is just 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:40.600 so something that you would say, very true, like you know, 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.120 I don't want this, but I'm a good friend and 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:44.680 like I'll keep this out on the down low. 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.520 Right, So that was sort of a side segument becomes 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.800 a problem. I'm sorry, I'm letting you We're done. 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.560 Yeah, yeah, no, I did. I love stuff and her 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:57.040 reaction to this and her like, I don't think this 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.600 is a good idea, and like, I'm not, and the. 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:03.400 Importance of also that idea that you know, we we 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.879 can keep each other's secrets as long as it's not 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.800 about safety or health or putting anyone in danger, and 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.800 those aren't the secrets that we keep, you know, exactly. 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.200 And you know, she was comparing herself like you had said, 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.760 you know, she's not somebody you would look at and say, yeah, no, 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:21.800 they need to work on their health. But the problem 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:25.120 was she started with the episode started with those magazines 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:29.119 and the nineteen nineties that was the time that it 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:33.320 really took off with tabloids and paparazzi and then the 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:38.280 ultra thinness in your fashion models, which also even kind 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:40.800 of dictated how the fashion industry was, like remember the 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:42.360 super low rise genes. 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:45.879 And the baby teas, yeah, the heroine chic yeah, you know, yeah, 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:50.240 it was already creating this this expectation for how your 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.560 body types should even look like. 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:56.840 And so I think I think it was just she 0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:01.119 was falling as a victim to the messaging that she 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:02.680 was being exposed. 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:03.680 To, right as we all work. 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:14.400 Yeah yeah, I mean the advent of you know, photoshop 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.359 and all of that in the. 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:17.840 Late eighties early nineties. 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.040 All of a sudden, it was like you could tweak 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:24.480 and gloss over and make, you know, into perfection anything 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:26.440 you want. And now it's even more. You can do 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.840 it on your phone, you do. You don't need Adobe 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:31.240 Photoshop Pro to do. 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:31.600 You know. 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:35.560 It's like you can make yourself look completely different and 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:37.920 look like how you think you should look. 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.119 Rather than how you actually look, you know. 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:40.920 Yep. 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.080 And that makes me question who's like who's buying who 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:47.159 was buying these magazines in the nineties, Like who's this for? 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.800 Because women don't want to feel less? 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:49.960 Then? 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:53.439 So is this all like how you mentioned like this 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.600 was the look of the models the baby tees, Like 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.040 is this all for the male gaze? Like these are 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:01.280 editors putting these models on the covers because that's what 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:03.359 men want to see. Because I don't know if women 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:04.080 want to see that. 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.760 I'd say that I don't think women want to see it, 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:10.160 but it's almost that that is like almost a subconscious 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.680 thought because that kind of goes underneath, like you don't 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.720 really think about how much you don't want to see 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.560 that until you like go through all of the nonsense 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:21.920 of fighting that battle, you know what I mean. I 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.760 feel like your teens and twenties are like you don't 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:30.920 even think about like not engaging in that comparison, you know, right, Well. 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.920 I think it's also just a side effect of diet culture, 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.520