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Speaker 1: a story called the Short, Unhappy Life of a Penny

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Speaker 1: Avelos and John Had Tommy is featured Quite a Pity

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Speaker 1: and it's He's a fifty one year old deputy district

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Speaker 1: How are you good? Good? Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: And so there's a lot of people have to go

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Speaker 1: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf

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Speaker 1: been a deputa for twenty five years, any ten years

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Speaker 1: in the Major Crimes Unit until Gascone transferred him demotive

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Speaker 1: because because McKinney was telling the truth publicly about what

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Speaker 1: did you find out if he has a lawsuit too,

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Speaker 1: or that John Lewin has a lawsuit that was our

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Speaker 1: guest yesterday. No, I don't know. Yeah, I'll have to

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Speaker 1: find that out if he's got a lawsuit about being

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Speaker 1: demoted too. But anyway, you should listen to that. It's

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Speaker 1: in the first hour, first half hour of the show

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Speaker 1: on the podcast, right, So he's got a mental block

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Speaker 1: about the guy. I don't know what. They have a

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Speaker 1: lot of mental blocks. You have a lot of mental blocks. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I meant to tell speaking of scams, I must have

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Speaker 1: got ten invoices last week and they looked really official

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Speaker 1: from geek Squad. So that is geek squad that's best

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Speaker 1: best buys, computer fixer or whatever. Yeah, they just kept

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Speaker 1: coming and I did stop for a moment and go

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Speaker 1: did I have them come do something? Or I realized no,

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Speaker 1: you do not download whatever's attachs there. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: lead at the invoice. I'm not looking at the invoice.

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Speaker 1: Did you get emails on that? There were a bunch

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Speaker 1: of emails claiming pay this invoice. Yeah, you know, and

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Speaker 1: I either they wanted me to pay a false invoice

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Speaker 1: or they wanted to just invade my computer right download. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't do either. I just stared at them. But

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Speaker 1: they kept coming every day all week. If you check

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Speaker 1: the incoming email line where it says best Buy, just

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Speaker 1: click on it and it gives you the actual email address.

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Speaker 1: Often it is not, you know, best buy dot com.

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Speaker 1: It's usually xl z Y sixty five t dash L.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a fake email address that it's coming from.

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Speaker 1: Oh I see, yeah, that's a good way to check

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Speaker 1: the veracity of it, all right. Uh, you wanted to

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Speaker 1: play this audio from this plane trip? Humph Southwest Airlines?

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, waits got into it and another fight you

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Speaker 1: bump my wife? Well there, one guy has got a

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Speaker 1: lot of tattoos, and he bumped the second guy's wife,

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Speaker 1: and the second guy just went nuts, just beating on him,

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Speaker 1: wailing away, pummeling him with one punch after another, And

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Speaker 1: of course people immediately whipped out their phones anyway. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to go viral. This is what it sounded like. No,

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Speaker 1: you're not him again again, Tell you what happened. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell everybody what happened. He approached me, accrousting me with

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Speaker 1: my family. I don't play my favorite. Tell them what happened,

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Speaker 1: Tell them what you did. I will sit down in jail.

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Speaker 1: But you approaching my fade with my family, I will die.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes wonder if I would whip out my phone or

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Speaker 1: what I would do. I haven't been in a situation

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Speaker 1: like this yet, but attempted like yeah, I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: armed officers on every fight, guy having a loaded gun

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Speaker 1: walks up. That'll stop this nonsense. Any alcohol involved, do

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Speaker 1: we know? I don't know. But the guy doing the

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Speaker 1: pummeling was wearing a nice sport coat. Yes, the guy

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Speaker 1: somebody tattooed, which is why I thought you brother, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh no. The guy getting beaten was was like heavily tattooed.

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Speaker 1: It was like carpeting. Uh conways here. Hey, no, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's exciting. Hey, we were talking about this last night.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that you would be one of the

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Speaker 1: guys to jump up and try to tackle the guy

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Speaker 1: with the gun. Uh no, no, not first. We said

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Speaker 1: if someone goes first, if a mob goes before me,

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Speaker 1: you're all jump on the bottom of the pile, though

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Speaker 1: the top of the pile. But yeah, I would. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be first. Yeah, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: be first, and I don't want to be killed. But

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Speaker 1: um Crozier is the only one in the building that

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Speaker 1: I think he would be first. In good you jump

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Speaker 1: up and I'll fly with him. Yeah, I'm gonna sit

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Speaker 1: next to Crozier. You know, you were talking about the

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Speaker 1: two million dollars the woman got out of the unemployment

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, the scam it three hundred They lost thirty

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Speaker 1: billion dollars, So three hundred million dollars is one percent.

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Speaker 1: So hurt two million dollars nothing, man, that's true. One percent.

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Speaker 1: And they haven't got have they clawed back any of

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Speaker 1: that money? Very little, very little, very little. Most of

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Speaker 1: it's been spent on object. There's a lot. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of wealthy people in the world now, and here's

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Speaker 1: the list of people fired over it. Nobody, Yeah right, nobody.

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Speaker 1: They're getting promoted the Julie Sue maybe secretary of labor.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, you ran the edd to when this

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Speaker 1: money was going out the door. She cost the state

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Speaker 1: thirty billion dollars. If I caught cost this station three grand,

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Speaker 1: I'm gone. That's right, deathly gone. She's secretary of labor.

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Speaker 1: That's right. You take one bag of potato chips out

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Speaker 1: of that snack room without paying for it, you're gone.

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Speaker 1: That's right. They got they have a camera there in

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Speaker 1: the machine and the machine I know, well they can

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Speaker 1: see you taking the taking the soda and it now,

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Speaker 1: but I see I don't buy it. The look at

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Speaker 1: the video because everybody about a month, every month I

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Speaker 1: buy something snacked or almost every night, so every month

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Speaker 1: I take something as a buyback. Nobody's question your own

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Speaker 1: little buyback program by Ted get one free. This one's

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Speaker 1: on them. Yeah, Alex Stone is coming on tonight. Also

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Speaker 1: a Kalina Astrinos, a new anchor, slash news slash traffic

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Speaker 1: weather person for KKO, and then Pep Petros Pepa Doccas

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Speaker 1: at six o'clock. So man, there's something for everybody. The

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Speaker 1: big pay, yeah, big pay sports news. He's going to

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Speaker 1: talk about anything, probably little Lakers. We got the March

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Speaker 1: madness coming up. You know, they get the whole run.

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Speaker 1: Are you guys seem like March Madness fans? You got

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Speaker 1: brackets going in the whole run? Not mean no, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't do it so much anymore. Now,

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Speaker 1: have you ever been to the super Bowl? You should

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Speaker 1: be like a super Bowl guy at Vegas? But I

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Speaker 1: was at the super Bowl last year and the rams

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Speaker 1: one I know. But you've ever been to Vegas for one? No,

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Speaker 1: I have not because it's too crazy. It's great, it really.

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Speaker 1: I used to go to March Madness in Vegas too,

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Speaker 1: but that got too crazy. You know what they do now,

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Speaker 1: tim They charge you a lot to get a good

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Speaker 1: seat at the sports book. Oh I know, don't charge

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Speaker 1: one hundreds of dollars. Now, I know you just be

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Speaker 1: able to send in those helmets at Caesar's Palace for nothing.

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Speaker 1: But you know they also charged for in Vegas. And

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you know this, King, because you go there

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Speaker 1: all the time. Parking they are starting to charge parking

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Speaker 1: at the casinos. Parking you going to drop twel hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars in twenty minutes and you gotta pay nine dollars

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Speaker 1: to park there. It's not blaming la, Yes, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Dank Dog Dan, a lot of ding dongs tonight, then

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Speaker 1: Mo Kelly comes up. Okay, exciting your head. Yeah, Live

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Speaker 1: in the twenty four hour Campire Newsroom,