WEBVTT - “I LOST MY BEST FRIEND”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hi, How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay?

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<v Speaker 3>How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I give my real name?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Want to give me a fake name? I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you and I'm gonna I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give you a fake name. I'm gonna give you one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call you Annie.

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<v Speaker 3>Amy.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, bro, I don't sound like a Amy, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what you get the fake name you get,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't get upset.

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<v Speaker 2>Amy.

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<v Speaker 1>How old are you? Amy?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm twenty three?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what's going on? Amy? How can I how can

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<v Speaker 1>I get you today? What's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? Honestly, that's such a loaded question with everything that's

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<v Speaker 2>gone on in like the past year and a half

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<v Speaker 2>of my life. But basically, long story short, right before

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<v Speaker 2>my senior year of college started, one of my best

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<v Speaker 2>friends was like murdered the first week of school us.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just the craziest, like his most mind warping

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<v Speaker 2>time honestly in my life, and I thinking back on

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<v Speaker 2>it now, I'm just like I can't even believe it's

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<v Speaker 2>been that long, and it's like this the way that

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<v Speaker 2>I've had to accept like that I'll never get closure

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<v Speaker 2>on some things has been just way too much for

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<v Speaker 2>me to handle.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what sorts of things are you trying to

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<v Speaker 1>accept that you'll never get closure on.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, just with everything that happened to her, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of blurred lines and just like things

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<v Speaker 2>that don't add up from like the person that murdered her,

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<v Speaker 2>and like he never technically got charged with a murder

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<v Speaker 2>just because of the way laws work in my state.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's just like, although he is behind bars for

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<v Speaker 2>what he did, it's still no one was responsible with

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<v Speaker 2>her life. And I'll never really know like what really

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<v Speaker 2>like in a way killed her, Like what really happened

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<v Speaker 2>with it? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you what happened? Do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I can. I can kind of go into it.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically, there's this huge thing in my school that

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<v Speaker 2>I went to in college, I went just background. I

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<v Speaker 2>went to a big ten college, really big school, big

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<v Speaker 2>party school. It's really known for that, and it's really

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<v Speaker 2>like great college in general, but it definitely has a

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<v Speaker 2>culture around drinking and partying in Greek life is like

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest thing ever. So it definitely prompts a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of crazy shit to happen there. But this was like

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<v Speaker 2>way more than I ever could understand. But there's this

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<v Speaker 2>thing that everyone like goes to you on Tuesdays. It's

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<v Speaker 2>called two dollars Tuesdays. And it was the first one

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<v Speaker 2>of the year, like we had all just moved back down.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the week before school started, called welcome week,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is our senior year. And me and my

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<v Speaker 2>friend had met each other when we were in high school,

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<v Speaker 2>but we never really met each other for real and

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<v Speaker 2>started becoming friends until freshman year of college. She was

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<v Speaker 2>my best friend throughout like all three years of college,

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<v Speaker 2>one of my closest friends. And that night she was

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<v Speaker 2>a year younger than me, so she wasn't twenty one yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I was twenty one at the time. Me and two

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<v Speaker 2>other friends had gone to the two dollars Tuesday thing.

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<v Speaker 2>She was at another friend's house and they were all

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<v Speaker 2>just like kind of pregaming to go out later, but

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<v Speaker 2>Avery was just gonna do something else. But basically Avery

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<v Speaker 2>ended up getting god name. She ended up getting just

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<v Speaker 2>like more drunk than she intended. And she was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to leave and come to my house, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to go pick her up. But since I was drunk.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'll walk to you, because we were

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<v Speaker 2>only like ten minute walk away from each other. But

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<v Speaker 2>by the time I said that, her friend was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just drive her over to you. But Avery was

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<v Speaker 2>still thinking that I was coming to walk and get her,

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<v Speaker 2>so she was being reluctant to go with her friend,

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<v Speaker 2>although me and her friend had already worked this whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing out that she was going to get dropped off

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<v Speaker 2>in my house, but she didn't have her phone, her keys,

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<v Speaker 2>or anything, so she didn't want to leave because she

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't find them. And then she ended up getting in

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<v Speaker 2>the car, but was convinced that our other friend was

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<v Speaker 2>taking her to the wrong house because I had just

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<v Speaker 2>moved to a different house this year and she'd only

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<v Speaker 2>been there like once or twice, so she was like

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<v Speaker 2>unfamiliar with the area I was in, And so she

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<v Speaker 2>got out of the car without any of her stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>like a block away from my house, by this gas station,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I was on the phone with the friend

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<v Speaker 2>that led her out of the car, basically not thinking

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<v Speaker 2>anything of it because she was being aggressive and they

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<v Speaker 2>were both very drunk, so she was like, she'll make

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<v Speaker 2>it to Laurence. She's literally right down the street. But

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<v Speaker 2>like I was waiting out of my porch for her,

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<v Speaker 2>and she never showed up. So I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck, Like, where's my friend? And then my

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<v Speaker 2>sober friend, my roommate at the time, came home and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yo, I don't know where my friend is.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to go look for her, like I'm scared,

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<v Speaker 2>Like she doesn't have any of her stuff on her,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So then we drive around, we don't see

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<v Speaker 2>her at all. We drive around where she lives, which

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<v Speaker 2>is like ten minutes walk away from me, drive around

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<v Speaker 2>my neighborhood, don't sear, drive around where she came from,

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't there, And so then I was just I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I was intoxicated too. So then I called my other

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<v Speaker 2>best friend. So it was me, my best friend that

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<v Speaker 2>was missing at the time, and my other best friends

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<v Speaker 2>who were like a trio. My other part of the

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<v Speaker 2>trio was in Florida. So I FaceTime her while I'm drunk,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, yo, I don't know where our friend is.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know what to do because she doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have her phone on her, no one knows where she is.

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<v Speaker 2>She could be with maybe one of her friends, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know that she ran into, or maybe someone that

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<v Speaker 2>else she knew in the area, like no one knew.

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<v Speaker 2>So then basically I ended up just going to sleep

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<v Speaker 2>that night and I was like, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>to do. There's no way I can track this girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where she is, and I was feeling

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<v Speaker 2>ill about it, but like really truly, there's nothing that

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<v Speaker 2>I could do. And everyone was like, she's okay, Like

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<v Speaker 2>she's probably just with like her kind of man at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, friends or something along the lines of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But then the next day we woke up still heard

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<v Speaker 2>nothing from her, which was rare because she was always

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<v Speaker 2>the type to wake up early and text us that

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<v Speaker 2>like she was up or whatever, send us something funny

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<v Speaker 2>from the night before, like just some humorous shit, like

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<v Speaker 2>she was funny, and we were just didn't hear from her,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were like, this is so like just so

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<v Speaker 2>fucking weird. So then me and my friend were like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to like call our other friend, the roommate

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<v Speaker 2>that let her out of the car, and we do,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we called the police. She's not in the hospital,

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<v Speaker 2>she's not anywhere. And so then We're just like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is so messed up up. And then like all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, I'm on the phone with my best friend

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<v Speaker 2>and she was on the phone with our friend's stepmom

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, and the police had came to their

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<v Speaker 2>door and said that they had found their daughter dead.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we just started flipping out. We're like, how

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<v Speaker 2>did like how and what and where and like how

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<v Speaker 2>did any of this happen? And basically we didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>find out that, like the person that did this to

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<v Speaker 2>her wasn't arrested for like two months later. This guy

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<v Speaker 2>that just like murdered our friend was just out there

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<v Speaker 2>and we had like no idea what it happened really truly,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we had to wait like an entire year

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<v Speaker 2>until like this past June to even go to trials

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<v Speaker 2>for it and everything, and we still never even got

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<v Speaker 2>full closure because he didn't have to go up on

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<v Speaker 2>the stands because he didn't have to like choose to

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<v Speaker 2>incriminate himself.

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't even know, you don't even know what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, who is this guy? How they like this

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<v Speaker 1>was this just was she was talking drunk along the

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<v Speaker 1>streets and this guy just was randomly from the streets

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<v Speaker 1>like kidnapped her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's like in the nutshell basically what happened. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the trial pieced it more together for us and gave

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<v Speaker 2>us like an idea of the timeline. Like we saw

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<v Speaker 2>footage of her in her parking garage, like alone, she

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<v Speaker 2>was talking to some people. But I think the conclusion

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<v Speaker 2>of her like being in the parking garage and not

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<v Speaker 2>being able to get up to her apartments because she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have her keys, and like when you have an

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<v Speaker 2>elevator in the parking garage, like you can't go up

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<v Speaker 2>to a floor unless you have the fob. She never

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<v Speaker 2>had her fob. So there's footage of her in the

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<v Speaker 2>elevator like trying to go up and down but it

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<v Speaker 2>won't let her out on her floor. And then there's

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<v Speaker 2>like footage of her going in and out of the

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<v Speaker 2>garage like trying to talk to people.

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<v Speaker 1>But is there like is there footage of her and

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<v Speaker 1>the sky?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>How did she meet this guy?

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<v Speaker 2>There's there's no footage of her actually meeting him. It's

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<v Speaker 2>hearsay of like what he said how they met, which

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<v Speaker 2>was they met like five blocks away from my house,

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<v Speaker 2>which was legitimately on campus at this university, So that

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<v Speaker 2>just shows you everything about safety at colleges. He was

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<v Speaker 2>just lurking at two to five am on a random

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday night, like nobody's business, and he said that that

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<v Speaker 2>night he was looking to get drunk and fuck some bitches.

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<v Speaker 2>So then he picks up my friend while she's overly intoxicated,

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<v Speaker 2>alone and drunk. And the technical cause of her death

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<v Speaker 2>was speentanel. So what we won't do like ever know

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<v Speaker 2>is because the autopsy doesn't reveal how the sentinel was ingested.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't find any like points on her skin or

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that, like either she took a pill of

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<v Speaker 2>some sort or like bad drugs, but like well just

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<v Speaker 2>or like the thing is is like I know she

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<v Speaker 2>would never do that, so it's like very difficult for

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<v Speaker 2>me to ever think that would happen. And he also

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<v Speaker 2>raped her two times, three times more maybe I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but Jesus, yeah, it's just like I don't ever think

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<v Speaker 2>that she would willingly do that. But like people originally

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<v Speaker 2>when this happened, people thought that like she did this

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<v Speaker 2>to herself, like they thought that she took bad drugs

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<v Speaker 2>and killed herself. But I knew that it was never

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<v Speaker 2>true the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to hear about all this. This is a wild, wild,

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<v Speaker 1>wild thing, especially you know, being you know, in contact

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<v Speaker 1>with her the night that it all happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I mean the hardest part is definitely the

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<v Speaker 2>guilt of like wishing I wouldn't have never went to

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<v Speaker 2>sleep and just like looked for her more and like

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<v Speaker 2>went in the parking garage. It's just like it was

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<v Speaker 2>the first we had moved down there. We had hung

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<v Speaker 2>out that day, Like we went to the grocery store together,

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<v Speaker 2>we went to the gym. We were like, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>let's get ready like this year, and then we were like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going out later, and then like we literally were

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<v Speaker 2>at the gym and then we hugged and we were

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<v Speaker 2>like see you later, like because she was gonna come

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<v Speaker 2>over that night anyway. And so it's just crazy that

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<v Speaker 2>like we were texting and it was like twelve, it

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<v Speaker 2>was midnight, and I was talking to her and then

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<v Speaker 2>like I could tell she was drunk, but then I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I was going to see her later, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I just woke up to that the next day. And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, even the crazier part is that my like

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<v Speaker 2>the other person that's in the trio or our best friends,

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<v Speaker 2>Like her best friend was murdered like four months prior

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<v Speaker 2>to this, So this is like the second time that

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<v Speaker 2>my other friend was going through this. And like she

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely was in like disbelief when she called me. She

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, I can't even like process this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, your friend's friend had another friend to

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<v Speaker 1>get murdered four months before this. Yeah, at the same school.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he didn't go to college with us. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a friend from home.

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<v Speaker 1>How long ago did all this stuff happen?

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<v Speaker 2>This is all the year twenty twenty two, so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still pretty pretty new.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Two year deathmark of our friends, a male friend that

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<v Speaker 2>we had that passed away just.

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<v Speaker 4>A week she did.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, So the things that you were talking about not

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<v Speaker 1>getting closure on are really just like like what exactly happens? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, did were they doing cocaine? Like like I

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<v Speaker 2>just like I just want to know, you know. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like and then we obviously, like me and my other

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<v Speaker 2>best friend are like freaking detectives because the police weren't

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<v Speaker 2>doing as they should. They treated the whole case like

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<v Speaker 2>an overdose when they found my friend not like a murder.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't fingerprint anything. There was like cut straws. There

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<v Speaker 2>was definitely probably drugs present, but like they said, there wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they see and the guy that did this,

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<v Speaker 2>keep in mind, was thirty five or thirty six and

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<v Speaker 2>she was twenty years old.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, And this all happened at a thirty six

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<v Speaker 5>year old's parents' house, and the parents were the.

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<v Speaker 2>One that called the police, not the guy that did

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<v Speaker 2>this to my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>And so so that guy didn't get charged with murder,

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<v Speaker 1>you said, what, but he's behind what exactly happened.

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<v Speaker 3>He got charged with rape.

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<v Speaker 2>And for distributing alcohol to a minor.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fucking crazy because he.

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<v Speaker 2>Admitted to supplying her with weed and alcohol. But her

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<v Speaker 2>assistant says, spinal.

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<v Speaker 1>And who are you? Who are you with?

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<v Speaker 2>This is my boyfriend?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? Like you have to go on here? He's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just it's a lot of a lot of crazy

0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:50.840
<v Speaker 2>ship honestly, can I want to expose the state because

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana Indiana's laws are the reason that his motherfucker's not

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<v Speaker 2>gone for murder.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I will say a few pe people I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've checked out the chat a couple of times while

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking, and there have been a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>people who deduced that it was Indiana. Damn, somebody in

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<v Speaker 1>the chat, And I don't know if this is true,

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<v Speaker 1>but I and I actually might be making this up

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<v Speaker 1>because I just kind of glanced at it. But somebody

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<v Speaker 1>in the chat said that like Indiana like an like

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<v Speaker 1>Indiana University, that like ship like this happens a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's not surprising. The culture

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<v Speaker 2>that's breeded at Indiana University is the most toxic and

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<v Speaker 2>just messed up, like culture of kids dying underage.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you've graduated way.

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<v Speaker 2>Too many dots there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what are you doing now?

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<v Speaker 2>I live like near Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and I guess I have a few bunch of questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how how often are do you do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about this? I mean, it's only been two years,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like this is something that is heavily in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, but like, how often do you do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about it? How often does it like persist in

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<v Speaker 1>your brain?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Man, I mean I mean recently, I've had an

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<v Speaker 2>easier time with it I don't really know why, but

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the weight of it is finally getting

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<v Speaker 2>a little easier to put them in my fath just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to stay positive and like live a normalish life

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<v Speaker 2>after all this, you know. Yeah, yeah, but I mean before,

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<v Speaker 2>like over the last summer after I graduated in May

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three, I started working right after it, just

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<v Speaker 2>because I was like, screw it, like I want money,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I just don't need to sit around and like

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<v Speaker 2>pretend all this didn't happen, you know, and like what

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<v Speaker 2>was I gonna say, Oh yeah, back then, like in

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<v Speaker 2>June and July, Like when I first started working, I

0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:08.800
<v Speaker 2>thought about it so much, Like I couldn't sometimes during work,

0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:10.320
<v Speaker 2>I would just have to like get up and go

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<v Speaker 2>to the bathroom just to like sob a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, it's way better than that now, just

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<v Speaker 2>after the trials. The trials was a lot, and leading

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<v Speaker 2>up to that, because I had to be on the

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<v Speaker 2>stands a couple of times. Didn't want them to like

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<v Speaker 2>like grill me about stuff, you know, like why I

0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:33.360
<v Speaker 2>wasn't trying to help more like they were, because basically

0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:37.120
<v Speaker 2>the other side of the case, the defense of the

0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:41.360
<v Speaker 2>criminal was trying to say like Avery did this often

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<v Speaker 2>and like this was a part of her behavior to

0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:47.040
<v Speaker 2>like be reckless and drunk and all this, And I

0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:49.760
<v Speaker 2>like it was just hard because they had the evidence

0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.800
<v Speaker 2>on my phone and stuff, Like I thought they would

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<v Speaker 2>like look through our messages and stuff and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like see that. You know, we were partiers at the time, truly,

0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.080
<v Speaker 2>but who is it? You know, it's like we were

0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.600
<v Speaker 2>in college. Everybody was drinking, everyone smoked a little weed

0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:09.920
<v Speaker 2>everyone and I you stay it in the chat everyone

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<v Speaker 2>ie you does blow that's the culture.

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<v Speaker 1>And how long How long was the How long was

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<v Speaker 1>the trial for?

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<v Speaker 2>It was a week?

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<v Speaker 1>When did that end? Was that also like around the

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<v Speaker 1>end of twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Two, right right before fourth of July of twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like lessons, this is like six months ago, No,

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<v Speaker 2>almost a year actually, like eight months.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, you know, like I know you talked about

0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:49.000
<v Speaker 1>like this, this feeling of guilt, and I am sure

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not the first person to tell you this, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, of course your friend getting murdered is not

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<v Speaker 1>your faults.

0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Right, But I feel like every single day is like

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<v Speaker 2>like I look at a picturver and I'm like fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>like why, like why did I go to sleep? Like

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it goes to show for anybody in out

0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:24.880
<v Speaker 2>there right now listening to this, never leave your friends alone,

0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:28.760
<v Speaker 2>and don't go out with the dead phone, and always

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<v Speaker 2>keep your stuff on you, you know, and a weapon

0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.760
<v Speaker 2>and a and a fucking weapon if it's a niney

0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:39.280
<v Speaker 2>or pepper spray or something like Lord forbid. You know

0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.639
<v Speaker 2>this stuff happens every single day, and you don't understand

0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.520
<v Speaker 2>that the depth of it until it's someone that you

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<v Speaker 2>really love, like someone that you talk to every single day.

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<v Speaker 1>M How has the uh process of moving on? Now

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<v Speaker 1>that you're out of school and you're working and it

0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:04.720
<v Speaker 1>sounds like you're living with your boyfriend, how's the process

0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:10.600
<v Speaker 1>of uh? You laugh? Are you're not living with your boyfriend? No?

0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we we live like it's funny, like we joke.

0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:17.600
<v Speaker 2>We're like medium distance right now. We live like thirty

0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:19.640
<v Speaker 2>minutes away from each other. But it's way better than

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<v Speaker 2>how we were when I was at school. So I'm grateful.

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<v Speaker 1>I I you know what, I guess. I guess for

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<v Speaker 1>like a little second, I lived in a universe where,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, why would her why would her boyfriend just

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<v Speaker 1>be over. They have to live together. I don't know

0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:35.640
<v Speaker 1>why these I lived.

0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:39.119
<v Speaker 2>In for a second we're living together. Why they live

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<v Speaker 2>together and get married and have kids?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, wait, vibe vibean's good vibein is A is

0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:48.000
<v Speaker 1>A is a relationship status? I would I would put

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<v Speaker 1>that on your Facebook. How's the process of Okay, so

0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:54.320
<v Speaker 1>you're a vibe? And that's what I was going to

0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:57.399
<v Speaker 1>ask you is, how's how's vibing? How's the process of vibing?

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<v Speaker 1>How's how's today? How the last week?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's definitely it's been a lot. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I've said, the past couple of weeks been a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>just better. I don't know. I've been more positive and

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<v Speaker 2>just I don't know, not not getting over it.

0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:20.480
<v Speaker 4>But she's always positive. I've seen nothing since before from after.

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<v Speaker 4>She's changed so much, but in the greatest way possible.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's shocking to me. She's always positive, which is crazy.

0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:35.159
<v Speaker 1>I like, this guy's cool guy? What is is he

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<v Speaker 1>on the speakerphone?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, can't talk to can't talk to him real

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<v Speaker 1>Quick's so good? What's your deal?

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<v Speaker 4>Man? My deal is her deal? I just told her

0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.840
<v Speaker 4>to call and because I got the notification that you're streaming,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just found you a couple of months ago

0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:55.479
<v Speaker 4>and I've been watching NonStop. So I was like, well,

0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:58.159
<v Speaker 4>I don't have ship to tell, but he does. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just glad she called you.

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<v Speaker 3>You quicked up.

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<v Speaker 2>We were cracking up right before you called, because like

0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:08.399
<v Speaker 2>my text were so dry, and I was like, I

0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:10.159
<v Speaker 2>was like, he's not going to know what I'm saying.

0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm well, so okay, So you guys aren't living together,

0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:17.760
<v Speaker 1>but you're vibing. That's good, and uh, you got it?

0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:19.680
<v Speaker 1>What are you? What is it? What's your job now?

0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:27.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm in marketing. Yeah, I graduated from the business school. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you enjoying? You know? I guess I'm curious because

0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:33.240
<v Speaker 1>the way that you kind of opened to the call.

0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I know that you you know, a lot of what

0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:40.280
<v Speaker 1>you seemed to be dealing with right now, you know

0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:42.000
<v Speaker 1>is in relation to this, but it seems like you

0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:44.320
<v Speaker 1>were in some sort of of a of an overall

0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:51.119
<v Speaker 1>encompassing malaise of some kind. Is that is that? Is

0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:52.439
<v Speaker 1>that true? Am I making that up?

0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean that's the thing. Is like all of

0:22:55.520 --> 0:23:00.879
<v Speaker 2>this just really made me so eye opened to like

0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:04.600
<v Speaker 2>how I mean, this honestly is gonna sound so corny,

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 2>but there's that Kanye video where he's like I ask

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:10.119
<v Speaker 2>God to deliver me from pain and he took my

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:14.040
<v Speaker 2>mom And it's like, in a way, that's like how

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:16.320
<v Speaker 2>this feels, Like it's it's hard to have anything that

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:19.160
<v Speaker 2>could ever really hurt that much. And it's like it's

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of made me so like not even in a

0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 2>bad way, like not numb, but just like it made

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:27.200
<v Speaker 2>me realize how little so much means, and like how

0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:31.280
<v Speaker 2>much someone means, you know, m h m hm.

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Ask good delivery from pain. So he took my mom

0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:36.960
<v Speaker 1>as in, like you want me to deliver you from pain.

0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Here's the most painful thing now, right, there's no more

0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:43.080
<v Speaker 1>pain in comparison.

0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, It's like it's it's not even and obviously like

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 2>I live in fear of just like even my little brother,

0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 2>like he still goes to IU. So it's definitely like

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:55.920
<v Speaker 2>i still have a lot of like worry with that,

0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:58.480
<v Speaker 2>just because I'm like the culture there, like I said,

0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:02.440
<v Speaker 2>is very like toxic. So I'm like that definitely still

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:04.600
<v Speaker 2>stresses me out. But I'm like at the end of

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:07.160
<v Speaker 2>the day, like yeah, like at the end of the day,

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:09.439
<v Speaker 2>it's like all these things I just think that I

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 2>can't control, and I'm I kill myself worrying about all

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 2>of that when I you know, try to chill out

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 2>for some time. But yeah, I haven't really been going

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:28.600
<v Speaker 2>to therapy much when I probably should be. But I

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:30.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I just feel like if I was going

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 2>on like a consistent basis, it would make it like weirder.

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 2>It would make it harder for me to open up

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:39.359
<v Speaker 2>about it authentically because I feel like when he just

0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 2>told me to come up here, I was like, screw it,

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:45.719
<v Speaker 2>I'll talk about it right now, because like I definitely

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 2>like feel the love for my friend enough to talk

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:52.359
<v Speaker 2>about her every single day to anybody. But at the

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.399
<v Speaker 2>same time, it's like to a therapist and like paying

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:57.680
<v Speaker 2>someone and like, I don't know that that.

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<v Speaker 3>To me is titchy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you, yeah, you don't want it to see

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 1>to seem like you're like rehearsing it or something like that,

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 1>or is that is that kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's genuinely like I've talked about it

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:19.359
<v Speaker 2>so so much and like just even with you know,

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 2>like obviously you can imagine my best friend's text and

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I like or like our text every day are very

0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 2>like we talk about our friends that we lost quite

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 2>a bit, and it's like I get a lot of

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 2>just release, like just talking to them about her and like,

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:37.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, looking at old video stuff like that, and

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:41.400
<v Speaker 2>like obviously just like having my boyfriend and my family

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:44.880
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, like they all understand everything that and it's

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 2>it's also kind of crazy too because my little brother

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:49.239
<v Speaker 2>was also very good friends with this girl, so like

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 2>sometimes we talk about her and it like hits a

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 2>different part, you know.

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask, how's your relationship with that?

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 1>So it was a trio. It was you friend Avery

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:05.719
<v Speaker 1>and this other girl? Who's who's this other girl? Are

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 1>you still friends with her?

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's my best dat day one? So we talked. Yeah,

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 2>every day, we hang out quite a lot. We go

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:16.119
<v Speaker 2>to church together.

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 3>We're very.

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 4>Encouraging.

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 2>I would say we both have like opposite work schedules

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 2>right now. So like she's on midnights and I have

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.880
<v Speaker 2>a regular nine to five. So she's always like up

0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 2>when I'm not up, and I'm always asleep when she's up.

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, oh is she like a like a nurse

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 1>or something.

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's going to PA school, so she's got to

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 2>get those patient care hours in at the hospital. M Yeah.

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, super encouraging. And like she was the friend

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 2>that also lost someone else very close to her too,

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 2>so like it's super weird. It's like, you know, she

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:53.159
<v Speaker 2>lost her best friend and then like I mean not

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:55.239
<v Speaker 2>to say that like we weren't all best friends, but

0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:58.199
<v Speaker 2>like I avery, I had known her like quite a

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:00.879
<v Speaker 2>long time and stuff, like since high school, and just

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 2>like to have her kind of like help me through that,

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:07.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, because I couldn't imagine like what she was

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 2>feeling like back then when like I was with her

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 2>at the funeral and stuff, because I wasn't as close

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 2>with that person. So I was just like I could

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:16.239
<v Speaker 2>never imagine what she feels like right now, and then

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I literally had to go through it. I'm like, damn,

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, some things maybe really do happen for a reason.

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, what are you excited about for the future.

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely excited about the business I'm going to start

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 2>in honor of her, because.

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a business.

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I think I'm just gonna do some digital marketing,

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 2>like what I do as a career now for a brand.

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to do more agency type of work

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 2>and try to work for some cool brands. Because it's

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:58.199
<v Speaker 2>funny when we were when Avery and I were juniors,

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 2>we were actually going to intern at this for a

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.199
<v Speaker 2>marketing company or a tequila company. We're going to be

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 2>in the marketing department together. But then she ended up

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 2>like needing to stay home that like summer because she

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 2>had just been abroad, so her dad didn't want her

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 2>to like live in Chicago and blah blah blah. But yeah,

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 2>so I was just like she was a super creative

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 2>person and like she was into digital and social media.

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:21.199
<v Speaker 3>Just like me.

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:23.639
<v Speaker 2>So we're very similar in that way. And I just

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 2>thought it'd be sitting to have a company, you know,

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 2>name after her, and then we'll always have something with

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:29.439
<v Speaker 2>her around, you know.

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna name your your your agency after her?

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm yeah, very nice, very nice. Yeah, no, go ahead.

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 2>And then I'm gonna try to incorporate some philanthropy into

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 2>it as well, with just trying to give back to

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 2>anyone with mental health and the opioid addiction in the

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 2>crisis going on in this country right now. It's just

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 2>really personal with all of that. I mean, if truly,

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 2>if all these drugs weren't as accessible and weren't as

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, accepted in our culture and all that, Like,

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 2>I just feel like this wouldn't have happened to her, Like,

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just I've never heard of someone just

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 2>like killing someone with fatan all until this like happened.

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 2>And then I just realized, like, wow, this like actually

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 2>happens with people every day. There's really sad that, like

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 2>the number one leading killer of people eighteen to thirty.

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:31.479
<v Speaker 2>Is that all?

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Really that's the number one.

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like besides, I'm pretty sure it's like car

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 2>wrecks and satanal is like in the top five. Now

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 2>the number one too.

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty I thought it was suicide.

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe that is too. Honestly, I'm not sure, but

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 2>I saw I know, I thought no, I thought he said,

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 2>gont forget that big one.

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I was about to be like this is a fun

0:29:57.960 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>little conversation.

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I don't know what it is, but I

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 2>swore I thought I saw a statistic that top three

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 2>fetanyl for sure.

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Tough three, Top three sounds sounds accurate.

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, It's just it's just really sad, and it's it's

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 2>also crazy because like the guy, me and my best friend,

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 2>like we would stop the guy that did this, and

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 2>like his family and just like see the things that

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 2>they would post and like leading up to what he

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 2>did to my friend, he would like post about like

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 2>drugging and raping and like taking money from white women

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, and like how white women were so gullible

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 2>and like all that, and I was just like, that's

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 2>so disgusting. And then you'd go to his mom's Facebook

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 2>profile and she literally would say, my my sons are

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 2>addicted to fetanyl. But they couldn't put they couldn't put

0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 2>one in, you know, two and two together to pin

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 2>the fetanyl on him.

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I was about to say, like, was there were those

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Facebook posts? Not were they like brought into the trial?

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 2>The trial The trial was at that point had nothing

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 2>to do with the fetanyl. Basically, the trials was all

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 2>to do it's like the rape and and whether or

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 2>not alcohol contributed to her death.

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 1>So there's there was no like if the guy just

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 1>goes on Facebook and and and admits to that, there

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>was no like did that that didn't like trigger any

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>any anything.

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they want to do it as they don't want

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 4>to do more than they have to do.

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were like the murder isn't going to get

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 2>in The murder for like basically selling someone or giving

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 2>someone a drug and it kills them in Indiana is

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 2>like five to seven years in prison.

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, so that's like that's a technicality.

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 3>In in aena.

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that like rape getting him on, like the rape

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 2>and the distribution of alcohol to a minor. And he

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 2>also while he was in jail, he also used a

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 2>different inmates pen and tried coercing the person that he

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:26.040
<v Speaker 2>called at five am when Avery was quote unquote still

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>alive to live for him on the stand, and they

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 2>had recordings and transcripts of it all and we've got

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 2>to listen to it all in course. So he also

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 2>got charged for that.

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Geez, Yeah, what idiot are you? What's his mom posts?

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you still look at like his family's Facebook posts?

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes we haven't really looked recently. I should honestly look.

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Ye, it's probably I don't know, I'm not a it's

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>it's probably for the best to not look at it.

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I think, no, right, And it's like, honestly, it's like

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 2>with all this it's like, as much as I love her,

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 2>it's like this is how it was for like a

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 2>whole year when we didn't know anything about what happened.

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Is like we were constant looking and like searching, and

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 2>so then it's like after the trials and stuff, it

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 2>was just really good to be able to just kind

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 2>of have some peace with all of it and like

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 2>not really care because I knew he was gonna probably

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 2>be back there for life. Plus when he got arrested

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 2>in his prince went in the system, it actually came

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 2>up and matched another girl's rape kit from a year

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 2>before Josh, And so now he's getting tried for that

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 2>one too, So now he might be and it's the

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.480
<v Speaker 2>same judge, so she's definitely gonna like back to back

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 2>the sentences and then like he'll probably be in.

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 4>There for life.

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 2>That's fucking crazy, right, Yeah, it just it makes me sick.

0:33:59.920 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 2>It makes me so sick that and and one time

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I was actually recently I don't want to say this

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:10.360
<v Speaker 2>girl's name, but shout out to my one friend that

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 2>lives in Hyde Park. He told me that if it

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:24.439
<v Speaker 2>gives me any closure, Avery, this happening to Avery might

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:27.399
<v Speaker 2>have been for that girl, you know, to have her

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 2>closure with it, because that they would have never found him,

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:33.240
<v Speaker 2>and they would have she probably never would have got

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:35.360
<v Speaker 2>justice at this then, like avery had to be the

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 2>reason for all this to stop, because who knows how

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:40.240
<v Speaker 2>many girls there were form.

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 3>And in the future.

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Right, And this guy he just like openly and admitted

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 1>to it on Facebook.

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but no, no, his yeah, he tiptoed around it.

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 2>He was just like I didn't get like I don't

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:00.879
<v Speaker 2>even know. The way he responded to it all just

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 2>like made him look so guilty, Like yeah, he was

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 2>like I didn't do shit, Like I never even knew

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 2>this bitch, Like you know what I'm saying, Like had

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.359
<v Speaker 2>this attitude that like he didn't know what happened to her.

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like she was alone and without any phone wallet,

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 2>if she didn't have any of that, how the fuck

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 2>would she have fatanal? Like you clearly supplied her with it.

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Where did it come from? What did you do to her?

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:31.359
<v Speaker 2>It's like I want to know if he like did

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 2>that to her and then raped her and kid, like

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, like I just like I just want to know.

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I just want to know, Like I'll never know. But

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was just praying that she was in

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 2>a honestly, I pray that she was like out of

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:51.839
<v Speaker 2>it when all that was happening, you know, for the

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 2>best of her.

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Well Amy, Wait, Amy was the name I gave you.

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:09.919
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we got you know what.

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 1>You know what, after all this, if you want to

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:14.919
<v Speaker 1>pick a different name, you can pick a different name.

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:21.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't even have a better one. Yeah, I don't

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 2>even have a better one. But yeah, I mean all

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 2>this definitely some crazy ship.

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>But well, I'm glad. I'm Look. Look man, I'm glad

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 1>that you're doing You seem like you're doing better. You're

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:40.400
<v Speaker 1>ready to go and do this. This marketing agency that

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>you're going to name after her. I think I think

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad. I'm I'm I'm. My verdict is, I'm glad

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 1>you're you're not swarming Facebook with looking at at your friends. No,

0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:02.240
<v Speaker 1>you're not your friend looking at uh uh this guy's family.

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not like you're you're I like that

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 1>you're doing the things that are are are sort of

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:08.359
<v Speaker 1>forward moving, you know.

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it's good. I think I think it's important

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 2>to do that and to anybody, even just struggling with

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 2>grief too. I mean, the thing that gives you comfort

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:21.439
<v Speaker 2>to is that they wouldn't like if if Avery had

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 2>in my life right now, she would want me to

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 2>live that shit to the fullest.

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you know.

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 2>She was full of life, literally so full of life,

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.439
<v Speaker 2>and so if I didn't the days that I don't

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 2>feel like getting out of bed and like doing anything

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 2>and being sad, it's just I'm like, she would not

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:39.799
<v Speaker 2>want this for me at all.

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, Amy, is there anything else that you or or

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 1>or your boyfriend want to talk about or say to

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the people of the computer before we go?

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:57.280
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm good. Yeah to everyone out there, hug your friends,

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 2>extra clothes, every take.

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<v Speaker 1>Care of me. Thank you for calling, and thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for sharing your story. How did it feel to talk about?

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<v Speaker 3>Was?

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Did it feel good to talk about? At least?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, it actually really did it really good?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much?

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<v Speaker 1>Gag of course, of course have Yeah, we got to

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<v Speaker 1>hear what this guy's story is, but that's for another time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he's got stuff all right. You gotta take care.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, big hands there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you just said, but what's your name?

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Ryan.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? Ryan? How can I get you today?

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<v Speaker 6>You could?

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:48.920
<v Speaker 3>You could get me, get me in the mouth, feeling

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 3>a little hungry, and I just want to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>food food for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, all right. I respect the boldness that you

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 1>just just put on display.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your what's your favorite food?

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<v Speaker 1>What's my favorite food? Oh man? You want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about food? You want to talk about food?

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Ryan?

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Ryan? Is that what you said? Your name was? Yes,

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:13.280
<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about food. Let's fucking talk about food. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's my thing, Ryan, I'm god, I'm trying to lose

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>weight because I'm gonna tell you, guys, I'm gonna just

0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 1>rant for a second. If if you don't mind, you

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>got me going a little crazy. I do so in

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 1>ju I think so. I started doing therapy getto in

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>June of twenty twenty, and in the four years that

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I've done this podcast, I think I gained forty or

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:51.280
<v Speaker 1>fifty pounds or something like that, forty fifty pounds because

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I just well, a couple things happened. One thing that

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.840
<v Speaker 1>happened was, you know, once the podcast started to like

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>be a little bit more successful, I think I thought

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 1>to myself, like, oh okay, I'm just gonna, you know,

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 1>put all of my stock into this podcast and then

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 1>who gives a shit what my body looks or feels

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:16.319
<v Speaker 1>like because I have a successful podcast. You know. That

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 1>was terrible decision. But also I just like what I

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 1>would do. It was four years, Ryan, it was four

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 1>years of Okay, sit in this chair three times a

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 1>week and talk to people on the phone for two hours.

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:34.600
<v Speaker 1>And then how does one how do you think one

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>decompresses after talking to strangers about stuff for two.

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 7>Hours, breath eating, by stress eating by no, no, by first

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 7>getting extremely high and then eating an extra genuinely maybe

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 7>four thousand calories every single night.

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was. It was crazy. And then at

0:40:57.280 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of this year, I was like, all right,

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I got stop. This is not cool. So now Ryan,

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I have a little I have a folder on my

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>notes app. I have one for food and one for fitness,

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and the fitness one I track my my lifts, and

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>then the food one I'm trying to eat at a

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>caloric deficit. I put my I put my ship into

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that calculator, you know, that calculator that tells you how

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 1>many calories to.

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:27.799
<v Speaker 3>How many you gotta burn and how much you gotta

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:29.759
<v Speaker 3>eat and how long you gotta run?

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so I got I'm a caloric deficit. I

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 1>gotta I've limited myself to two thousand calories a day,

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:42.320
<v Speaker 1>which is, you know what is actually a pretty sizable

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>amount of calories, I think, But now I'm like.

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 3>A daily value of that that it's like for a

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 3>normal cuman human mail.

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a daily value value for a normal

0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:57.399
<v Speaker 1>human male. Now I don't do I haven't been doing

0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 1>it every single day for the for the whole year.

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>God No, I've had plenty of I think I've actually

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 1>done it like most of the days in the last

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:10.239
<v Speaker 1>two months. Maybe, but I mean there's been a lot

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:13.319
<v Speaker 1>of times I'm going on venders and still but I low,

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:16.880
<v Speaker 1>here's what happens now. I log my venders, so like

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I no matter whether I log everything, now, I log

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 1>everything now. And I'm like, oh my god, I was

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:26.080
<v Speaker 1>eating like I law I had I had this day recently.

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I was just feeling pretty miserable and I was like,

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:32.360
<v Speaker 1>the only I just need some dopamine in my life.

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 1>And I it started with it. It started as it

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>always does with I'm just I'm just gonna say this.

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't care if they want to sponsor this podcast

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>one day, I'm not. I I cannot in good faith,

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 1>UH promote this company because the Okay, my least favorite

0:42:53.400 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 1>brand of all time is Starbucks. For multiple way. I

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:03.719
<v Speaker 1>hate Starbucks. I love Duncan. If Duncan ever wants to

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 1>be a sponsor of the Therapy Gical podcast, I got them.

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:09.399
<v Speaker 1>But I hate Starbucks. I hate them because I think

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:13.319
<v Speaker 1>their coffee tastes shitty, and I think it's it's the

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>most pretentious brand of all time. They sell a cake pop,

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 1>they sell a unicorn cake pop, they sell a variety

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:25.880
<v Speaker 1>of different cake pops, and it's a It's literally it's

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:29.759
<v Speaker 1>a one single bite of cake. Ryan. And guess how

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:33.840
<v Speaker 1>much one single bite of cake cost your.

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Soul, your corporate soul is sold to Starbucks.

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:43.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure it costs. I'm pretty sure it costs

0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 1>like four dollars for this one bite of cake. I

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>hate these cake pops. I eat them all the time.

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm addicted to them. They're delicious. So I had a

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:54.440
<v Speaker 1>cake pop, which was the start of the beginning of

0:43:54.480 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 1>the end, uh, and then I just snack in Ryan,

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I went to the bodega, I got my favorite fucking

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Neon sour gummy, fucking Neon War of the Bright Sour Worms.

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I love those. I got a cookie from Starbucks. I

0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:15.320
<v Speaker 1>got Pringles and with all this shin, I logged it

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 1>all and it was like the fucking five thousand, six thousand.

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 1>It was crazy. This is crazy. And I was like,

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:24.360
<v Speaker 1>oh shit, I've been like in twenty twenty three and

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two. I ate like that every fucking day. Dude.

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 1>It was insane. It was insane.

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:31.240
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:35.320
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, so now I'm I I have a secret.

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:37.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give some free pro I'm gonna give free

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 1>promo right now. Okay, so I give. I gave free

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.399
<v Speaker 1>anti promo to Starbucks. I'm gonna give here's my here's

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>my secrets.

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:44.200
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:48.320
<v Speaker 1>One is Factor. You know I talk. Factor sponsors a podcast.

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Factor's been sick. Another one Chapotle. Okay, I'm meeting Chipotle

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 1>every single day because i can actually track the fucking

0:44:57.400 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>uh macros on. So I'm just eating uh that. I

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:10.160
<v Speaker 1>like that, I mean right now, rocks Rocks. So every

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 1>day I'm eating quest bars, I'm eating mussel milks. But

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 1>but here's the thing, Ryan is I'm counting calories and

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I don't know if it's worth it. Man,

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's worth it, because sometimes I'm

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:27.239
<v Speaker 1>just like I'm just sitting in my fucking bed or

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm walking down the street and I just don't feel good.

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I just feel sad and depressed, and I'm just like, God,

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:38.439
<v Speaker 1>nothing would make me fucking happier in the universe right

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 1>now than to eat a giant chicken parmesan sub and

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 1>French fries and mazzarella sticks and fucking king sized Reese's

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 1>cup fast break I have. It's just my brain. It's like,

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:56.279
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing that would make me feel better in this

0:45:56.640 --> 0:46:01.800
<v Speaker 1>universe than to do that right fucking now, and then

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 1>I wake and then but every time I do that,

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I wake up in the morning and I'm like, fuck,

0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I just I ruined all my progress. I gained back

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the one pound. You can literally you can eat a

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 1>pound if you can eat three thirty five hundred calories. Like,

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:18.239
<v Speaker 1>if you lose a pound a week and we just

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 1>decided to go on a crazy bender, you could get

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:24.400
<v Speaker 1>a gain a whole fucking pound back. Just raises your progress.

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:27.319
<v Speaker 1>It's so fucked up. I don't know when it's gonna end.

0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 1>And uh, I'm just I'm going crazy out here because

0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know whether to to give in and

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:37.440
<v Speaker 1>just be like all right, fuck it, I'm just gonna

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:40.279
<v Speaker 1>be a fat guy. It's fine. I'm sure I can

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 1>find somebody who loves me like this. I'll we'll figure

0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:46.560
<v Speaker 1>it out, or to be like you know what, No,

0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:49.279
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna lift, We're gonna do this, We're gonna get

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 1>back in shape, We're gonna be But what's the point.

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>What's the point of any of this shit? I don't know.

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling too existential, you know, if you haven't noticed this,

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:00.800
<v Speaker 1>If you haven't, if you haven't noticed, I'm actually asking

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 1>you to be the therapy. Get go for this call.

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:06.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah for sure. I mean I've definitely gone through

0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 3>like the ringar when it comes to food.

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 6>Because growing up, I didn't have a lot of food,

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 6>so it was like eat and then I got a

0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 6>job in college working in the restaurant and that turned

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:23.319
<v Speaker 6>into like a like a survival thing, like yeah, so

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:27.800
<v Speaker 6>I got I got diagnosed with the stomach issue and

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:31.960
<v Speaker 6>uh diabetes also, which was major because and I track

0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:34.800
<v Speaker 6>I track all my ship too, and sometimes I'm staring

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 6>up the ceiling at night, like do these numbers really matter?

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:43.440
<v Speaker 3>And they do, yeah, especially for me because I'm diabetic.

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:46.799
<v Speaker 3>And literally I see a wrong number and I'm like,

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:50.120
<v Speaker 3>oh shit, I have to eat, but I can't have pizza,

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 3>I can't have donuts. I have to have low carb

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:58.280
<v Speaker 3>red and bage old. And I never had a sweet

0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 3>tooth before, but now doughnuts, ice cream, I have one,

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 3>and I'm I'm good, I'm set. And then there are

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:10.319
<v Speaker 3>some days where I just now all binge eat an

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 3>entire bag of frido is just just because I can,

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 3>and then not be able to eat for the next

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:15.920
<v Speaker 3>three days.

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh god, it it It's so brutal, Ryan, It's

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 1>so brutal.

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:30.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, that will like just looking at that number and

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:35.359
<v Speaker 3>and and and realizing how much like food is cent

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:40.800
<v Speaker 3>thrilled to like culture and like society and like economics

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:43.760
<v Speaker 3>and even just like your mental state too. And yeah,

0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:48.319
<v Speaker 3>what comes from behind like eating with intention or when

0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:50.560
<v Speaker 3>you cook for someone and make them a nice meal

0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:53.879
<v Speaker 3>and or you know, like you said, you're you're you're

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:58.319
<v Speaker 3>eating a chicken parm That's that's life right there, man,

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:03.239
<v Speaker 3>That's like, that's pure well, it's what I think it is.

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:05.319
<v Speaker 1>It is it is. I've thought about that. Man, I'm like,

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I really I really was thinking and like it's like

0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of the simple things in life. I'm noticing

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:15.200
<v Speaker 1>are are the best ones?

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Like, but it's also so destructive and like so cast Yeah,

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 3>it is.

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:23.359
<v Speaker 1>It's very destructive.

0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:27.440
<v Speaker 3>Eat like having to be more intuitive to what I'm eating.

0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, Like it's like I I really have

0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:32.879
<v Speaker 3>to start thinking about it now. You know, I can't

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 3>eat ultra process foods anymore, even even though I want to.

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:39.279
<v Speaker 3>Or like you said, the cake cake pops are like

0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:42.799
<v Speaker 3>two bites and they're selling for like five dollars, like yeah,

0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:46.560
<v Speaker 3>and that man, like it's food. It's tucking food.

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:55.560
<v Speaker 1>You know what was I gonna say? It's, uh, here's

0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing now here. Here's here's a I mean,

0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to count and like get undertooth that but

0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:04.759
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't always happen every day. And here's here's where

0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:07.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm at is I'm just trying to be reasonable now

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 1>because I was eating Unreasonable'm like, let's just be reasonable,

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:13.800
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like, like if you go

0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:16.440
<v Speaker 1>out to dinner and you get a big fucking burrito

0:50:16.920 --> 0:50:18.840
<v Speaker 1>and you eat it. That's cool. Or like if you

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.080
<v Speaker 1>got if you just get a chicken parmesan sub and

0:50:21.120 --> 0:50:24.279
<v Speaker 1>you eat it, like whatever, that's fine. But like I

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:29.680
<v Speaker 1>was doing unreasonable shit, like like eating, like eating candy

0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:34.640
<v Speaker 1>every day is not reasonable eating a chicken parmesan sub

0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:36.800
<v Speaker 1>and then going to the bodega and getting a big

0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:40.600
<v Speaker 1>bag of fritos and getting a thing of the read

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:43.320
<v Speaker 1>like you know, like you know when you're being unreasonable

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:47.000
<v Speaker 1>versus just like eating a meal. And I've loved to

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 1>myself like, oh I can actually, I can actually live

0:50:51.200 --> 0:50:55.280
<v Speaker 1>my life in a way where I can eat pizza

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:59.800
<v Speaker 1>and a doughnut and ice cream and whatever. But just

0:50:59.840 --> 0:51:02.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, don't be a thick about it. Don't be

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 1>a fucking asshole. Don't eat you know, four donuts, don't

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:10.359
<v Speaker 1>eat candy every day, don't eat pizza every day, don't

0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:12.879
<v Speaker 1>don't be a fucking asshole. But you can still live

0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:14.840
<v Speaker 1>a life where you have it. And I don't know,

0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:17.719
<v Speaker 1>I've been pretty good this year, but it's only been

0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:21.640
<v Speaker 1>two months. But I'm I am worried, especially like if

0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I go to a I've been thinking about I think

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take a trip soon. I've been doing a

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:29.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of touring and I want to do I haven't

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:34.280
<v Speaker 1>been international for the sole purpose of just like hanging

0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:35.879
<v Speaker 1>out as a get go and filming stuff. So I'm

0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:38.359
<v Speaker 1>thinking about a few places, and I'm like, fuck, man,

0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:40.840
<v Speaker 1>if I end up going to like Thaighland or whatever

0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:45.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna, I'm gonna fucking I might get back into it.

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I might because I'm gonna go to seven eleven anytime

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I go international. I am literally I went to Hawaii

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:55.359
<v Speaker 1>to do a show and my hostel had a seven

0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 1>eleven in the literally next door. And I didn't eat

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 1>there every day. I ate there every two hours. I mean,

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:06.120
<v Speaker 1>it was crazy. If I go and when I go

0:52:06.160 --> 0:52:08.640
<v Speaker 1>to Europe, I'm eating at the McDonald's. I mean, it's like,

0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't I'm not gonna be I don't. I just

0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to revert back to how I was

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:19.200
<v Speaker 1>when it was gaining, you know, when I gained fucking

0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 1>forty pounds. But it's like, I kind of had a

0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:25.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of fun doing that. I had a lot of fun.

0:52:26.520 --> 0:52:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I kind of had a lot of fun eating a

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:31.520
<v Speaker 1>shit ton of food. But I've also I'm looking at

0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Speaker 1>it with rose colored glasses because I also had a

0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:39.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of shit misery of like, oh man, I'm an adult,

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:43.920
<v Speaker 1>this is not sustainable way to be as a human

0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:48.920
<v Speaker 1>being at all. And I'm also I started, I feel

0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:53.480
<v Speaker 1>like kind of unattractive and fat and gross, and I'm

0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:58.759
<v Speaker 1>trying to you know, be not that you know, so

0:52:59.560 --> 0:53:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I I have marginal amounts of faith

0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:06.080
<v Speaker 1>in myself, which is good. That's all you need.

0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 3>I think about looking back at the times where I

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 3>was working in the restaurant and how destructive it was

0:53:14.320 --> 0:53:18.080
<v Speaker 3>at those times. And I look back to with roast

0:53:18.080 --> 0:53:23.000
<v Speaker 3>colored glasses and think like wow, you know, like having

0:53:23.080 --> 0:53:28.279
<v Speaker 3>that intense amount of like dopamine, like just like just

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:32.680
<v Speaker 3>based on food, it's just scary, scary typripe to walk

0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:37.200
<v Speaker 3>because I've seen a lot of friends go down really

0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:40.839
<v Speaker 3>terrible drug roots with that too, and because they were

0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:44.040
<v Speaker 3>in the kitchen industry, and luckily I stayed away from

0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:46.520
<v Speaker 3>all that, and it scared the shit out of me.

0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:48.640
<v Speaker 3>But I looked back when I used to go out

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:50.920
<v Speaker 3>and I would, you know, eat a bunch of pizza,

0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:54.360
<v Speaker 3>go home, get stones, and drink till four o'clock in

0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:56.439
<v Speaker 3>the morning, and I'm like, yeah, that was fun. I'd

0:53:56.440 --> 0:53:58.760
<v Speaker 3>love to do it every day. But also my body

0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:02.960
<v Speaker 3>is scaring me now, so yeah, that and and I

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:07.480
<v Speaker 3>think it's it definitely was like a blessing in disguise

0:54:09.080 --> 0:54:11.279
<v Speaker 3>because it was like ship, like you really have to

0:54:12.080 --> 0:54:13.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, you have to take care of yourself. And

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:16.920
<v Speaker 3>before then I wasn't really like in tuned with my body,

0:54:17.120 --> 0:54:21.480
<v Speaker 3>and now I'm super aware of like it's like like

0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:26.920
<v Speaker 3>a weird like power, like awake and work and feel

0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:31.080
<v Speaker 3>people's vibes or like through their their food, if that

0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:34.799
<v Speaker 3>makes sense, Like I could tell if you put love

0:54:34.840 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 3>in your food or not.

0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:38.919
<v Speaker 6>Ye Starbucks, no love, Fredo, no love.

0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:42.799
<v Speaker 3>But when I eat them, I still get joy, but

0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:45.600
<v Speaker 3>there's no love in it. And I think that's what.

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:47.400
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:50.120
<v Speaker 1>What else I hate about Starbucks is I hate how

0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:55.239
<v Speaker 1>popular it is. Why is everyone everyone loves fucking Starbucks.

0:54:55.280 --> 0:54:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I go to the airport at six a m. You

0:54:57.880 --> 0:54:59.960
<v Speaker 1>know what, It's fine. I was at a fucking airport

0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:05.279
<v Speaker 1>the other day and I'm walking past all these all

0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:09.000
<v Speaker 1>these places that have coffee. There's like a fucking kiosk

0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:11.720
<v Speaker 1>that sells coffee. There's like two people in the line.

0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:15.959
<v Speaker 1>There's the McDonald's coffee. McDonald's a little crowded, but there's

0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:20.160
<v Speaker 1>this like nameless coffee shop here in a nameless coffee

0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:24.359
<v Speaker 1>shop there I walked past, I see the Starbucks. The

0:55:24.400 --> 0:55:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Starbucks has like a literally like a half hour long line,

0:55:28.520 --> 0:55:31.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, what are all you people fucking doing?

0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Go to the father places? What's just so? I don't get.

0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand what's so great about Starbucks. It's better

0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:41.200
<v Speaker 1>than the other places. It doesn't make any sense. It

0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:42.680
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make any sense to me.

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 3>What's my favorite things at the airport is to watch

0:55:47.280 --> 0:55:51.439
<v Speaker 3>the people at the Starbucks because there, like you said,

0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:53.960
<v Speaker 3>there's always a line in a mile and a half.

0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:59.560
<v Speaker 3>And then literally down the road like the hallway or

0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:02.640
<v Speaker 3>whatever whatever it's called, there's like a local coffee shop

0:56:02.719 --> 0:56:06.440
<v Speaker 3>and it's like empty, and I'm from the from the

0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 3>airports that I'm plying out of, and I'm just looking

0:56:09.080 --> 0:56:12.719
<v Speaker 3>at them. I'm like, all it looks so sad over there,

0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:15.920
<v Speaker 3>and I and I that cheither coffee is probably better.

0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Like I love to go to a little cafes of River,

0:56:19.160 --> 0:56:22.600
<v Speaker 3>but it's like, why would you wait in a line

0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:26.879
<v Speaker 3>like that long for some like half assed coffee when

0:56:26.920 --> 0:56:30.319
<v Speaker 3>you can literally just walk up here like get something

0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:30.960
<v Speaker 3>pretty simple.

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:32.960
<v Speaker 1>It all probably gotta, I gotta, I got a hot

0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:34.800
<v Speaker 1>take for you, I got a hot take for you

0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:40.480
<v Speaker 1>to me. To me, all coffee tastes the fucking same,

0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:44.640
<v Speaker 1>like coffee, like a coffee you know when you go

0:56:45.480 --> 0:56:47.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, and they're like, oh, this coffee is is

0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:51.360
<v Speaker 1>the beans are from Machu Picchu and blah blah blah,

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:55.120
<v Speaker 1>and then like a fucking uh gas station coffee all

0:56:55.160 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the same to me who gives a ship all exactly

0:56:58.680 --> 0:56:59.160
<v Speaker 1>the same.

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:02.319
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of people talking out their ass like

0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:04.719
<v Speaker 3>they know and and then but then there are fun

0:57:04.800 --> 0:57:07.400
<v Speaker 3>there You're like, okay, this is like this is pretty different.

0:57:07.480 --> 0:57:11.719
<v Speaker 3>Like I had a coffee with like a mushroom apricot

0:57:12.040 --> 0:57:15.359
<v Speaker 3>like syrup in it, so they like fermented their own

0:57:15.360 --> 0:57:18.439
<v Speaker 3>syrup and they added to coffee, and it's like why

0:57:18.440 --> 0:57:22.400
<v Speaker 3>would you put apricots and like mushrooms in a coffee?

0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:25.360
<v Speaker 3>But like you can actually taste it like it was.

0:57:25.440 --> 0:57:27.600
<v Speaker 3>It was weird, man, but I liked it pretty good.

0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:34.200
<v Speaker 1>That's another thing. My is my therapy session. If that's

0:57:34.200 --> 0:57:35.000
<v Speaker 1>okay with you.

0:57:36.120 --> 0:57:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's that's okay.

0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:41.000
<v Speaker 1>You sounded pretty disappointed.

0:57:41.360 --> 0:57:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Actually, you know, no, no, dude, Like I think they're

0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:49.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, having a conversation about these things instead of

0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:52.800
<v Speaker 3>like someone just like talking at you. Like I feel

0:57:52.840 --> 0:57:55.320
<v Speaker 3>like we're talking like together, you know, like an actual

0:57:55.360 --> 0:57:56.080
<v Speaker 3>conversation with time.

0:57:56.520 --> 0:58:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, I was just gonna say it's I tore.

0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I think I did like fifty five different fucking cities

0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:07.160
<v Speaker 1>last year, which was like I I took it. At

0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:09.320
<v Speaker 1>least I took at least more than like one flight

0:58:09.360 --> 0:58:11.360
<v Speaker 1>a week. Like I was on a plane multiple times

0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:16.240
<v Speaker 1>a week. And the airport there's nothing to do but

0:58:16.560 --> 0:58:20.480
<v Speaker 1>just there's this thing at the fucking airport where it's like, okay,

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to be trapped to the sky for like

0:58:22.920 --> 0:58:27.360
<v Speaker 1>six hours. Let me stuff my bag with food because

0:58:27.400 --> 0:58:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I'm gonna get. And also, oh

0:58:31.680 --> 0:58:34.920
<v Speaker 1>my god, it's the weed, dude. That's what I realized

0:58:35.000 --> 0:58:37.720
<v Speaker 1>was was like a big crux of all my eating

0:58:37.720 --> 0:58:41.800
<v Speaker 1>thing was the weed. Because yeah, airport.

0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love doing things at airport because they're so

0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:51.640
<v Speaker 3>ridiculously overpriced, like seven dollars for like a bag of

0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:53.959
<v Speaker 3>check next. Nah, I'm good.

0:58:54.600 --> 0:58:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, go ahead. No, I think I think I would

0:58:56.200 --> 0:58:59.240
<v Speaker 1>put I would put airports on a on a I mean.

0:58:59.800 --> 0:59:01.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, I forgot my headphones.

0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:06.600
<v Speaker 1>But like I had a thing where if I didn't

0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:10.320
<v Speaker 1>have a show that night, I would get crazy stones

0:59:10.840 --> 0:59:13.680
<v Speaker 1>before anytime I would get on the flight. So just

0:59:13.720 --> 0:59:18.760
<v Speaker 1>be stoned in the airport, going fucking crazy with the

0:59:18.760 --> 0:59:23.440
<v Speaker 1>fast breaks and the McDonald's and it is just crazy, man.

0:59:23.680 --> 0:59:26.680
<v Speaker 1>And yeah it's all overpriced. Dude. You ever you ever

0:59:26.720 --> 0:59:29.760
<v Speaker 1>try to buy beef jerky at the airport?

0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, that's what that's like. What told bug.

0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Twelve dollars? You think beef jerky at the airport is

0:59:38.520 --> 0:59:41.280
<v Speaker 1>twelve dollars, buddy, beef jerky at the airport is like

0:59:41.600 --> 0:59:42.880
<v Speaker 1>thirty dollars.

0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:48.040
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Because I'm getting like chips and getting loaded on

0:59:48.080 --> 0:59:50.040
<v Speaker 3>the planes like bloody Mary's.

0:59:50.880 --> 0:59:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm They're getting drunk on the plane. It's fun.

0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a big I've kind of I'm not a

0:59:57.520 --> 1:00:01.600
<v Speaker 1>big I've decided recently. This is another like kind of

1:00:01.680 --> 1:00:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Calorie County thing. Is that uh, this is another kind

1:00:07.480 --> 1:00:13.720
<v Speaker 1>of Calory County thing. Is like I'll uh, oh, I'm

1:00:13.720 --> 1:00:15.520
<v Speaker 1>not I'm not drinking as much, and I'm like, if

1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get drunk, I want it to be like

1:00:17.480 --> 1:00:20.120
<v Speaker 1>for an occasion. Like if I'm just like out at

1:00:20.120 --> 1:00:23.960
<v Speaker 1>a bar or whatever, I'm not gonna probably get drunk.

1:00:24.000 --> 1:00:25.640
<v Speaker 1>But if it's like a good if there's a good

1:00:25.680 --> 1:00:31.040
<v Speaker 1>reason too, I'll get drunk. But not so much anymore.

1:00:31.280 --> 1:00:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I I like getting high at the airport because like

1:00:33.680 --> 1:00:35.920
<v Speaker 1>there's all there's a there's all these like little things

1:00:35.960 --> 1:00:38.280
<v Speaker 1>at the airport. Like next time, if you're listening to this,

1:00:38.400 --> 1:00:40.800
<v Speaker 1>next time you're at an airport, look at some of

1:00:40.840 --> 1:00:42.720
<v Speaker 1>the little ship that they have going on. Like there's

1:00:42.760 --> 1:00:45.960
<v Speaker 1>like art galleries at some airports. They just are like

1:00:46.000 --> 1:00:50.480
<v Speaker 1>here's a local Kentucky artist and when he does these

1:00:50.600 --> 1:00:54.520
<v Speaker 1>these uh portraits of steel workers, you know, like that

1:00:54.640 --> 1:00:56.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of ship is in you know what I'm talking about, right,

1:00:56.520 --> 1:00:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Like that kind of ship is all over the airport.

1:00:58.920 --> 1:01:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Nobody ever gives a ship looks at it because they're

1:01:01.640 --> 1:01:03.840
<v Speaker 1>on their way to you know, catch a flight. But

1:01:03.960 --> 1:01:07.480
<v Speaker 1>like I like going to the there's like art galleries

1:01:07.480 --> 1:01:09.640
<v Speaker 1>and every air not every airport, but they always have

1:01:09.640 --> 1:01:14.360
<v Speaker 1>like little installations or fountains or or ship like that.

1:01:14.440 --> 1:01:16.600
<v Speaker 1>So it's fun if you have some time, you know,

1:01:16.640 --> 1:01:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I would get high and I would I would look

1:01:18.240 --> 1:01:19.840
<v Speaker 1>at all the stuff. But you don't even have here's

1:01:19.880 --> 1:01:21.760
<v Speaker 1>the crazy thing. You don't even have to get high

1:01:21.800 --> 1:01:24.120
<v Speaker 1>to look at that stuff. It's it's uh, it's just

1:01:24.200 --> 1:01:26.240
<v Speaker 1>right there for you.

1:01:26.320 --> 1:01:29.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. In the Las Vegas Airport, they have a hallway

1:01:29.760 --> 1:01:33.040
<v Speaker 3>that is because it's mcarens and he was a pilot,

1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:37.360
<v Speaker 3>So they have a whole like avia aviation section and

1:01:38.760 --> 1:01:43.680
<v Speaker 3>like a I think, like a giant, giant culture that

1:01:43.720 --> 1:01:45.840
<v Speaker 3>you could climb all over. And I know in the

1:01:45.880 --> 1:01:49.960
<v Speaker 3>Portland Airport they have like a like a dog petting area.

1:01:50.600 --> 1:01:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Really that's kind of cue anxiety or whatever, but I'm

1:01:53.240 --> 1:01:56.480
<v Speaker 3>just like, I'm gonna pet these dogs before my funny

1:01:56.680 --> 1:01:58.440
<v Speaker 3>and I'm really stoned right now.

1:01:59.280 --> 1:02:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, brilliant, that's actually pretty cool. That sounds pretty cool.

1:02:04.840 --> 1:02:07.520
<v Speaker 3>And then there are like really like we're not really

1:02:07.600 --> 1:02:11.160
<v Speaker 3>shitty airports but like kind of like like it's just

1:02:11.160 --> 1:02:14.959
<v Speaker 3>an airport, like uh, this whole like city one there.

1:02:15.040 --> 1:02:17.680
<v Speaker 3>That one was kind of like they had like a

1:02:17.760 --> 1:02:20.800
<v Speaker 3>kritty cream and like that in a bunch of like

1:02:20.840 --> 1:02:25.520
<v Speaker 3>Mormon stores like like like book like what do they

1:02:25.520 --> 1:02:28.479
<v Speaker 3>call it? Like the bookstores. I guess, I guess they'd

1:02:28.480 --> 1:02:31.200
<v Speaker 3>just be like religous bookstores or whatever. But that was

1:02:31.240 --> 1:02:34.600
<v Speaker 3>probably the the worst airport that I was at. And

1:02:34.640 --> 1:02:39.000
<v Speaker 3>it's not not even bad just I've been to better airports.

1:02:39.000 --> 1:02:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Man. I really got to say, I'm like sitting here

1:02:40.800 --> 1:02:42.760
<v Speaker 1>talking to you right now, and you mentioned Krispy Kreme,

1:02:42.840 --> 1:02:44.280
<v Speaker 1>and I thought to myself, I don't think that there's

1:02:44.280 --> 1:02:47.360
<v Speaker 1>anything that would make me happier right now than eating

1:02:48.200 --> 1:02:49.320
<v Speaker 1>six Krispy Kreme.

1:02:49.200 --> 1:02:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Donuts, those dumpster dives Christy creams, because they really throw

1:02:54.040 --> 1:02:56.600
<v Speaker 3>out everything at the end of the night and they

1:02:56.720 --> 1:02:59.280
<v Speaker 3>just they're just boxes, like untouched.

1:02:59.720 --> 1:03:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Great, Ryan, we got to get out of here before

1:03:03.400 --> 1:03:04.640
<v Speaker 1>one of us does something crazy.

1:03:06.440 --> 1:03:09.520
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well it was pleasure. Thank you.

1:03:10.400 --> 1:03:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Man, good talking to you. Is there anything else

1:03:12.000 --> 1:03:13.240
<v Speaker 1>you want to say to the people of the computer

1:03:13.320 --> 1:03:13.840
<v Speaker 1>before we go.

1:03:16.880 --> 1:03:20.360
<v Speaker 3>I would say to uh, love your friends, guy laughing,

1:03:21.320 --> 1:03:25.520
<v Speaker 3>and uh, remember the food is fuel. Food is important.

1:03:25.800 --> 1:03:28.240
<v Speaker 3>Food is also just sometimes you eat it to take

1:03:28.280 --> 1:03:28.560
<v Speaker 3>a ship.

1:03:29.720 --> 1:03:31.320
<v Speaker 1>You do need it to take a ship. That's the

1:03:31.320 --> 1:03:33.760
<v Speaker 1>one thing I will say about food.

1:03:34.000 --> 1:03:35.640
<v Speaker 3>And some people can't take a ship.

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<v Speaker 1>So be thankful, grateful for for your ships. I like that,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for calling Ryan.

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<v Speaker 2>But it goes on the line exp