1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,279 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm Holly Fry and I'm Tracy V. Wilson, and we 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: are today continuing the two part episode of the events 5 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: that led up to the last public guillotine execution in France. 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: If you missed part one of this story, in which 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: we detailed the vanishing of Gene to Covin and the 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: man who she was last seen with, go back and 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: listen to that before jumping into this one, because we're 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: really not reviewing here and we're kind of picking up 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: where we left off, so it will feel completely confusing 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: if you don't have the backstory. Today, we're going to 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: talk about the trial, the verdict, and the aftermath, including 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: the execution heads up just in case. Like the first part, 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: this episode will involve discussion of violence, specifically murder. We 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: will also talk a lot about capital punishment. When we 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: left off last time, Oigan Vidman had been captured by 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: police and had confessed to several murders, including the death 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: of the young American tourist Jeane to Covin. On December 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: nine seven, Jeane to Covin's body was found that was 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: right where Vidman had told the police that it would be. 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: He hadn't taken it very far. It was buried under 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: the front porch of the cottage he lived in. Jean's 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: wallet had been emptied, but most of her personal effects 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: were still there with her, including the new camera that 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: she had taken to Europe to capture memories of her travels. 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: When the film was developed, it showed the last photos 28 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: she took were of Oigan Vibeman in his apartment. When 29 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: they found her, she had a cord tied around her neck. 30 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: She had been strangled. Vidman had refused to accompany authorities 31 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: as they went to his home to exhume the bodies 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: of Jean and also of Fritz Frohmer, who was buried 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: in the cellar. He said that he couldn't bear the 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: side of it. When Oigan confessed to Jean's murder, it's 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: reported that this was the only one out of the 36 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: six that he exhibited regret over. He would not say 37 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: her name, but wrote it on a piece of paper, 38 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: and he is said to have wept as he told 39 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: the police quote last July, I did something horrible, he 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: went on. She was gentle, and unsuspecting. I enjoyed speaking 41 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: English to her, which I learned in Canada. When I 42 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: reached out for her throat, she went down like a doll. 43 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: After collecting evidence, French police transferred Jean's body to a 44 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: coffin and contacted the de Covin family to make arrangements 45 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: for her to be laid to rest. Her body was 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: transported back to the US on the white star liner Berengaria. 47 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: It arrived in the States on December. The family had 48 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: it taken to a mortician to prepare for a proper burial. 49 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: Although the answer was surely painful, they finally knew what 50 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: had happened to Jean. Her mother was quoted in the 51 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: Boston Globe as saying, quote that means our last ray 52 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: of hope is gone. That was quoted, of course, when 53 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: she heard the news of Vinman's confession and the exhumation 54 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: of the body. Although the family had believed that she 55 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: was dead, this still just came as a shock. On 56 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: December tenth, Viidmont's three accomplices surrendered to police for questioning. 57 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: They had been staying at the resort town of Nantua, 58 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: near the Swiss border when Jean Blanc's brother phoned them 59 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: to tell them they were wanted in connection with the 60 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: arrest of Videman. It might be tempting to suspect that 61 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: they had gone on this trip to avoid police, but 62 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: that was not the case. This was more of a 63 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: coincidence situation. They were already in Nantua when Videman was apprehended, 64 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: having gone there to scope out a possible business opportunity. 65 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: According to Jean Blanc, he and Milion were planning to 66 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: open a lumber business there, and they quickly returned to 67 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: Paris and they all turned themselves in. When Million Entrico 68 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: arrived at the Versailles police office, they already had a 69 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: lawyer with them. There were some, but not many, conflicting 70 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: accounts about exactly what happened during the murders. When Videman's 71 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: confession was compared with his friend's statements. For example, Mion 72 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: Entrico had both claimed that the plan had never been 73 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: to kill Leblan, just to rob him. Tricole had told 74 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: police that Vidman had told her he'd murder them both 75 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: if they told anybody about it. Mion admitted he was 76 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: present during Lebland's murder, but that the entire crime was 77 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: Wrigan's doing. Meon also characterized his relationship with Viedman as 78 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: having helped a down on his luck friend when Vidman 79 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: moved to Paris without any money. Because of this, for 80 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: a time, Mion was considered to be the leader of 81 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: this gang rather than Vidman. Meon was described in the 82 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: press as having quote gone completely to pieces in his cell. 83 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: Guards said he frequently broke down and fits of hysterical weeping, 84 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: moaning I've done nothing nothing. Jean Blanc claimed to have 85 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: a high degree of ignorance regarding my to what has happened, 86 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: and that actually did line up with a lot of 87 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: what Voidmon and Mill had told the police. He was, 88 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: it seems, someone that they kind of strung along, showing 89 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: him just enough danger that it kept him interested, and 90 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: of course he kept loading them money to cover rent 91 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: and other expenses. He constantly asserted to police that he 92 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: was just a small time criminal involved in things like 93 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: forgeries and counterfeiting, certainly not murder. The first few days 94 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: after five months arrest were busy for the police as 95 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 1: they searched the villa for evidence, and they found a lot. 96 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: Search continued for months. One thing that was noted was 97 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: how impeccably clean the house was. It was regularly dusted, 98 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: and the furniture had white covers which were described by 99 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: the police as spotless. Early on, investigators found several suitcases 100 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: filled with what papers reported as quote feminine apparel, meaning lingerie. 101 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: Several of the items were laundry marked with names. The 102 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: items marked Jeanie were presumed to have belonged to Janine Keller, 103 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: but they also found items that have been labeled with 104 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: other names, Caroline and Josephine, as well as other items 105 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: that were not marked. But we're in a range of 106 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: different sizes. That made police worry that there may have 107 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: been many more victims. They believed when they counted it 108 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: all up, that the clothing belonged to twelve different women, 109 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: and the entire garden of La Vozi the villa was 110 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: dug up, although no additional bodies were found there. Investigators 111 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: also found a lock box in which Videman had carefully 112 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: stored the pasports and other legal documents that belonged to 113 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: the victims. Just as the rest of the house was 114 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: nit as a pen, these items had been organized and 115 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: carefully stored. On December twenty, several weeks into Videman's home 116 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: still being searched. Letters from numerous women were found. Among 117 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: his things are reported five hundred letters. He had been 118 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: placing ads in English papers asking women to send him references. 119 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: Some of these ads indicated that he was hiring a 120 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: governess for his children, others that he needed an English tutor. 121 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: This was of course, really similar to the situation that 122 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: led to Madame Keller's murder, so authorities were planning to 123 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: try to track down the writers of the letters to 124 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: see if anyone was missing, and a follow up to 125 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: the letter situation that appeared in the London press, it 126 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: was announced that Scotland Yard was able to determine that 127 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: four people on its list to follow up on, which 128 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: were three men and a woman, were safe. But more 129 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: curious was the fact that there were two people and 130 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: the information that French authorities sent that just didn't seem 131 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: to exist at all. There weren't instances of people who 132 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: were missing the addresses that their letters appeared to be from. 133 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: We're not real addresses at all. They were made up. Yeah, 134 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: we have no idea what the scoop was there if 135 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: people were just trying to as a safety measure not 136 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: give a real return address or if there was something 137 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: else going on. Once Vidman was in custody, the police 138 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: were quick to release a statement that made clear that 139 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: they had not been east with the way they had 140 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: been characterized as not taking the de Covin case seriously. 141 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: The statement as related in English language papers read quote. 142 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: Inspector Shaye was assigned to the de Covin search. He 143 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: speaks English, especially American English. He succeeded in listening into 144 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: telephone communications of the kidnapper and concluded he was a 145 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: German American. After inquiries, the police did not reject the 146 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: theory that Mr Covin had been murdered, and they followed 147 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: up on several clues, including one in Toulouse and another 148 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: in Switzerland. At no time was Monsieur chalets On vide 149 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: Months track. After vide Month's confession, he spent his time 150 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: in prison in France in a way that was very 151 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: much like when he had been incarcerated in Germany. He 152 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: read a great deal. One of the books that comes 153 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: up an account is Phenelon's Les Aventur de Telemark, in 154 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: which the writer used Telemachus his search for his father 155 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: Ulysses to examine political issues in the late seventeenth century France, 156 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: so not exactly light reading. Viedman also started working on 157 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: his own memoirs, which was something his lawyers suggested. Weidmann 158 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: was described in a ninety article in The New Yorker 159 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: so in between when he was apprehended and when he 160 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: went on trial as quote an exceptionally handsome male in 161 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: the medieval manner. He was reportedly dismayed to not be 162 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: able to be more fastidious in his appearance once he 163 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: was in custody, being unshaven and not being able to 164 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: wipe his face with a handkerchief, something he had been 165 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: denied out of fear he might try to kill himself with. 166 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: It is said to have made him embarrassed when he 167 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: appeared before authorities. In addition to forbidding any sort of 168 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: material that he might use to harm himself, the prison 169 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: also assigned o Agan to cell mates who were instructed 170 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: to alert the guards if he attempted self harm. That 171 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: may have been the case, and he may have been 172 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: chagrined to not be as tidy in his appearance as 173 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: he had wished, but that model behavior that he was 174 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: known for while incarcerated earlier in his life started to 175 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: fade a bit. During the trial, the multi lingual Videman 176 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: started claiming that he had forgotten how to speak French. 177 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: He would only speak German or English. He had been 178 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: charged with six murders for all the victims that we've mentioned. 179 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: The head of his defense team was Vincent the Morrow Jeoffrey, 180 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: and had worked on other high profile cases. Morrow Geoffrey's 181 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: second was Rene Jardin, who was notable because she was 182 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: a woman Avoca at a time when that was unusual. 183 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: She would remain associated with this trial throughout her career. Yeah, 184 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: she was the one that had suggested he keep that diary, 185 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: and she some quite a number of years down the road, 186 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: published it with a lot of of notation and kind 187 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: of her thoughts on what had been going on. She 188 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: really um seemed to feel that he was not in 189 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: his right mind. It took a lot longer to start 190 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: the trial than had initially been anticipated by authorities. In 191 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: early January night so a month after Vidmann was apprehended, 192 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: did the investigating magistrate. George Berry told reporters that he 193 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: really expected to have all of the evidence processed and 194 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: ready to hand off to prosecutors by the summer. He 195 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: mentioned July specifically, but there was so much evidence that 196 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: they needed far more time than six months to do 197 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: all that processing. The trial didn't start until March tenth, nine, 198 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: fifteen months after Vidmon had been arrested. In a moment, 199 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the way the press turned Oigan Videman 200 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: into an almost mythic figure of dark possibility. For that, 201 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: we will take a quick sponsor break. There was a 202 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: British tabloid story that appeared in February nine, so just 203 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: before the trial, that indicated that friends of Sidman were 204 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: trying to break him out ahead of the trial by 205 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: posing a gendarme to infiltrate the prison and escort the 206 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: suspect to a waiting car. This, it was reported, was 207 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: all conveyed to Videmond by a letter which looked harmless, 208 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: but on closer inspection, was found to contain invisible ink 209 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: detailing the plan. The prison was said to have doubled 210 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: the number of guards after this escape plan was discovered. 211 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: This is hard to verify and it comes from a 212 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: pretty dubious source, but we mentioned it to illustrate the 213 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: degree to which Oigan Videmand had become an almost mythic 214 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: boogeyman in the international press. By the time the trial 215 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: was approaching, his crimes had been reported in just horrifying 216 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: detail for more than a year. There was a constant 217 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: frenzy for more information, even after most of the facts 218 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: of the case had been disclosed and discussed over and 219 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: over in the public. There was a combination of fear 220 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: that people could easily vanish, especially tourists, and there was 221 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: the desire for some combination of justice and vengeance. So 222 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: running a story that suggested that the most rightening man 223 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: alive also had people trying to break him out of prison, 224 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: it was a sure fireway to attract readers. Yeah, we'll 225 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: talk about the press a little bit more at the end, 226 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: and then I definitely want to talk about it in 227 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: the behind the scenes this week. Uh, it was something 228 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: of a marvel as all of the various evidence and 229 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: statements were collected that it had taken an accident, really 230 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: the tracking down of the Arthur shot business card to 231 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: discover Jean to Covin's murderer, because it came out that 232 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: even beyond Million Blanc and Collette, there were other people 233 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: who knew about the murders and never said a word 234 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: about it. For example, Millon reportedly told his father about 235 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: Jeane to Covin's murder, and his father told his boss. 236 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: And there were allegedly two additional people that got information 237 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: about the Covin from million or secondhand from one of 238 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: the people that he had confided in. So while all 239 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: of these people seemed to be blabbing to each other, 240 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: authorities had never heard a word of it, but this 241 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: was all disclosed by the defendants before the trial began. 242 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: On the first day of the trial, Oigan Wiedman was 243 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: not his own best witness. He reportedly told his lawyer, 244 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: Vine Jardine, that he believed he would be executed, that 245 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: he was ready to die, and that he wanted to 246 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: quote be in order with God before that happened. Although Jardine, 247 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: who was the attorney that Origan was most comfortable speaking to, 248 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: had instructed him not to confess anything in court and 249 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: to not say anything that might endanger their chances of 250 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: claiming insanity, he did not take her advice when questions 251 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: sometimes he just strugged, but he did confirm his confession 252 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: of killing de Covin Fromer and sob. He confessed to 253 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: the rest of it during the following days. Although the 254 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: murder of Leblan was something that he and Mayo blamed 255 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: on one another. They both acknowledged being involved, but each 256 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: man said the other one had been the primary aggressor. 257 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: In mid March, prosecutors pressed Vidman for details about the 258 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: murder of Geane to COVID. On the stand, the defendant 259 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: was reticent. He refused to give any specific information about 260 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: how the knight had played out, leading the judge to 261 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: accuse him of indifference to what he had done. Oigan replied, 262 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: I am not indifferent, but I am not in a 263 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: fit state to talk. He elaborated when the judge asked 264 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: what he meant, that he was not morally fit to talk. 265 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: When the judge told Vidman that he hoped to hear 266 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: some words of at least pity for Gene from the defendant, 267 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: all Oigan said was I can only confess. But he 268 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: had given more details than his initial confession, and though 269 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: he was not willing to reflect or elaborate on that 270 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: information and court, his co defendant roge Male, did confirm 271 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: that things had happened as Widman had originally stated. Gene 272 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: and Oigan had arrived at the house in Saint Clu 273 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: between six and seven pm on July, although according to 274 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: me all she was not killed until after eleven pm. 275 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: She was buried under the porch that same night, and 276 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: the rose bushes were planted over and around the area 277 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: the next morning. The last day of Jeane Dekovin's life 278 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: actually has a few inconsistencies in terms of how the 279 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: details were confessed, at least as they were reported in 280 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,239 Speaker 1: the English language press. Remember this is all being translated 281 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: as it's being reported. An article in the New York 282 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: Times just two days after Zidmann was taken into custody 283 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: indicated that he told police she had not died right away. 284 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: He had tried and failed to strangle her, and had 285 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: to do so a second time, using two handkerchiefs knotted 286 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: together to do so, but that still placed it very 287 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: near their arrival at the Saint clu villa, not at 288 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: the later hour mentioned a moment ago. The earlier death 289 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: is the more common version of the story, and there 290 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: are mentions of the handkerchiefs being found at the villa 291 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: while the home was being combed for evidence. Regardless though 292 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: of which set of specifics had truly played out, there 293 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: was no debate that Jean had been killed by Vidmon 294 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: that night. One thing that became less mysterious and shut 295 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: down the speculation about fetishes was the reveal during the 296 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: trial of the reason that Oigan Videman usually took personal 297 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: effects things like clothes and shoes and wigs or other 298 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: accessories from the victims. He wasn't just keeping those for 299 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: himself or hoarding them away somewhere. He was distributing them 300 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: to his accomplices so they could use them as disguises. 301 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: Jean's aunt, Ida Sackheim, wanted very badly to testify in 302 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: the trial. She had hoped that the police would call 303 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: her to Versilles so she could do so, but they 304 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: never did. She actually sent a telegram protesting the family's 305 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: lack of representation at the trial, but she really didn't 306 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: need to have done that, and they really didn't need 307 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: her because even if she had testified, it probably would 308 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: not have changed the outcome at all. In an effort 309 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: to avoid the death penalty, Videmont pleaded not guilty by 310 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: reason of insanity, but the prosecution made the case that 311 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: the methodical name nature of his preparation for the crimes 312 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: indicated otherwise. On March thirty one, nine, the case concluded 313 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: and the jury went into deliberations. It took five hours, 314 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: not because there was much to debate on the matter. 315 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: Viedman had confessed there really wasn't any doubt regarding his guilt, 316 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: but they had before them eighty different questions for many 317 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: different crimes, including thefts and levels of premeditation that they 318 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: believed were involved. Weidmann was of course convicted for gene 319 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: to Covin's death. He was found guilty of murder without 320 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: premeditation in the cases of Les Bras and Frommer's murders. 321 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: He was found guilty with extenuating circumstances. For the remaining 322 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: three charges, the murders of Jeanine Keller, Joseph Kuffie, and 323 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: roche LeBlanc, they found Widman guilty of murder with premeditation. 324 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: He was also found guilty of attempting to extort ransom 325 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: from Ida Sackheim. After the verdicts were read, Videman was 326 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: asked if he'd like to say anything, and he just 327 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: shook his head no. As for his accomplices, they mostly 328 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: fared better. Blanc had never been as trusted by Vidman 329 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: as Meal was, so he really didn't know a lot. Additionally, 330 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: he had not killed anyone. He was found guilty of 331 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: harboring criminals and was sentenced to twenty months in prison. 332 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: Collectrico had also not committed any murder. She was charged 333 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: with receiving the proceeds of murder, but was acquitted. Her 334 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: defense throughout the investigation and the trial was that she 335 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: knew the goods she received were stolen, but did not 336 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: know that any of it had come from murder victims. 337 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: Meal was found guilty of attempted extortion of ransom and 338 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: for his participation in the murders of Keller and Leblon. 339 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: Like Videman, he was sentenced to death. Unlike Videman, who 340 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: was quite calm when his verdicts were announced, Meal and 341 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: was reported to have screamed his innocence. He begged the 342 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: magistrate quote, don't convict me. I am in a sent 343 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: I was an instrument in vide months hands. The jury 344 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: in the case also awarded a hundred and twenty thousand 345 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: francs to the Dekovian family. It's considerably less than the 346 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: two thousand they had asked for. This financial penalty was 347 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: to be shouldered by the entire group that was charged, 348 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: although papers noted that since only Jean Blanc had any money, 349 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: the burden would likely all fall to him. I never 350 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: found anything that indicated whether this award was ever paid 351 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: out or not. It was like literally mentioned as a 352 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: weird coda in one of the trial wrap ups. For 353 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: the next several months, Videmont and Millon waited in prison 354 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: for their sentences to be carried out. And we will 355 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: talk about that after we hear from the sponsors that 356 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: keep Stuffy missing history glass going. On June fourteenth, two 357 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: and a half months after the sentencing, the lawyers representing 358 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: both Videmont and Million went to the Elise Palace to 359 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: formally plead for clemency for their clients. Both men were 360 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: hoping their sentences would be reduced to life in prison, 361 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: although the prevailing opinion of both the public and legal 362 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: experts was that Widemand had no chance at a commuted sentence. 363 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: He was older than Million and very clearly the ringleader. 364 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: On June sevent nine, thirty nine, at four thirty two 365 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: am Oigan, Videmand was executed by guillotine on a scaffold 366 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: that was erected outside Versailles Men's Prison in Louis Bartow Square. 367 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: The Monsieur de Paris. The public executioner was Jules des Fourneaux, 368 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: who had inherited the job from his uncle. It was 369 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: a massive draw for spectators, many of whom had spent 370 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: the night before partying in Paris before making the driver 371 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: taking the train out to Versailles to see the man 372 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: who had become the most frightening figure of the day 373 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: put to death. Estimates for attendance usually put it around 374 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: three thousand people. Police had to be stationed around the 375 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: guillotine to maintain a border that the crowd could not 376 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: push past. In attendance, among others, was the mother of 377 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: Roger LeBlanc. Initially, Vidman resisted as he was let out 378 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: of the prison to his sentence, and was, according to 379 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: write ups in the US press, quote snarling in fury. 380 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: He was angry that he was to be killed while 381 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: his close accomplice, Roget Millon had been spared his death 382 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: sentence commuted to life in prison two days earlier. But 383 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: the closer Oigan got to the scaffold, the less he resisted. 384 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: According to press reports, his attorneys gave a statement that 385 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: Voidmont quote lived like a monster and died like a saint. 386 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: There was no end of coverage about this execution. Three 387 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: days after it happened, the Midland Daily Telegraph of Coventry 388 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: published a lengthy piece titled eye Witness a public execution. 389 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: The attribution for it was simply our Paris correspondent, and 390 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: it's surprising how nonsensational it is. It opens with quote, 391 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: I want to described soberly and exactly what a public 392 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: execution is like. I don't want to take sides for 393 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: or against the execution of murderers, or to discuss the 394 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: propriety or otherwise of executions in public. And the rite 395 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: up stays fairly true to that, and it does describe 396 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: the whole situation in detail. The crowd immediately near the prison, 397 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: so right up near the scaffold, was mostly eighteen to 398 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: twenty year olds who had taken the midnight train from 399 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: Paris to Versailles. The cafes in the block surrounding the 400 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: prison were described as also open all through the night 401 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: and filled with more diverse age ranges of people, many 402 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: of whom were debating the merits of capital punishment even 403 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 1: hours before the actual execution. The police had difficulty with 404 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: the crowd. At two a m. When the guillotine arrived 405 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: police had to force onlookers to move so that the 406 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: cart could pass through the crowd. Several fights broke out 407 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: among the onlookers. Several people were reported to have fainted. 408 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: The arrival of the executioner was accounted or and then 409 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: the moment of execution. The Midland Daily Telegraph does not 410 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: describe by Demant as snarling, but rather entirely silent even 411 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: as he tried to break away from his escorts. And 412 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: this account's conclusion it mentions that it's inherently upsetting for 413 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: someone to witness such a thing, regardless of their position 414 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: on the issue of the death penalty. Quote. The violent 415 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: assault of physical horror upon the tempt onlooker is not 416 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: to be described in measured terms, and cold print and 417 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: the frenzy of the crowd in attendance at Viidmont's execution 418 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: was a major factor in the end of public guillotine ing. 419 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: There had been some very real concerns that police might 420 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: not be able to maintain the peace, and the French 421 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: government moved swiftly to address the problem. On June nine, 422 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: the following brief article appeared in the New York Times. Quote. 423 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: The Cabinet issued a decree today abolishing the age old 424 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: French custom of holding executions in public. This makes Oigan Weidmann, 425 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: executed last week for the murder of gene To Covin 426 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Dancer, the last criminal to undergo decapitation in the open. Indeed, 427 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: it is believed the cabinet's decision was prompted by objectionable 428 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: publicity and incidents surrounding the guillotining of Weidmund. The article 429 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: goes on to describe the general atmosphere of mayhem around 430 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: the prison. The crowd reportedly got really out of hand 431 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: when the execution was delayed, briefly stamping their feet and yelling. 432 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: But perhaps more than any issue with the crowd, the 433 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: French government was horrified with the day after the execution, 434 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: candid photographs of the event ran in a number of papers. 435 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: According to the article quote, these had been taken in 436 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: defiance of a strict ban on photographs. The determination of 437 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: the French cabinet was that executions would take place inside 438 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: prisons going forward, clergyman and magistrates would be the only 439 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: attendees alone. In nineteen seventy seven, France held its last 440 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: execution by guillotine, when Hamina Jambouti was put to death 441 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: for the murder of Elizabeth Bouquet in The death penalty 442 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: was abolished in France after efforts of Robert bad, Minister 443 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: of Justice during the presidency of francoelzer Home. The abolition 444 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: of the death penalty became incorporated into the French constitution 445 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: after it passed a vote in the Congress of the 446 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: French Parliament in two thousand seven. Oh, there's so much 447 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: to unpack here. Yeah, do you have maybe some less 448 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: heavy listener mail? Oh? Yes, you know when I do 449 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: a a horrible one. Um, I got him do some 450 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: fun things, so I have to. They're both fairly short, 451 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: and they're both about food. The first one is from 452 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: our listener Maria, who writes, Hello, ladies, I'm currently four 453 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: months pregnant, getting caught up in the last few months 454 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: of podcasts. When I listened to the eponymous food episode, 455 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: I had to make fettuccini Alfredo after you're talking about it. 456 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm at that stage where if I hear something I want, 457 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: I need to eat it, or I will fixate on 458 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: it for days until it is resolved. Sadly, I don't 459 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: currently have the energy to make it from scratch, but 460 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: thankfully I had a jar in the pantry. Had to 461 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: share my funny story with y'all and hope you appreciate it. 462 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: Thank you for all you do. I wanted to read 463 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: this so I could say I do not have the 464 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: pregnancy excuse. I worked the same way. If I think 465 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: about a food, I have to have it. Uh. And 466 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: also I just want to say congratulations Maria and wish 467 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: you good health and a smooth rest of your pregnancy. 468 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,479 Speaker 1: I'm very excited and I hope it all goes well. Uh. 469 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: And then my other one is about waffles, so it's 470 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of a throwback to an earlier episode 471 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: from our listener, Christian, who writes, Hello, Holly and Tracy. 472 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: I've been listening to your podcast for many years and 473 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: love how informative you are. I've been meaning to write 474 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: you for more than a year about the episode on 475 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: the history of waffles, but I usually listen to you 476 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: when I'm out and about, so I kept forgetting to 477 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: do it when I was home. I'm originally from Columbia 478 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: but live in Vancouver, Canada. After listening to your podcast, 479 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: I realized that a popular Columbian snack that we have 480 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: called Obelias had the same origin as waffles. I was 481 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: in shock when you mentioned that name in your episode. 482 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: At the same time of listening to that episode, I 483 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: had formed a pandemic bubble with a guy from Belgium 484 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: who had just moved to Vancouver. I realized that Obelia 485 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: is called fret in French, and I knew that we 486 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: were both going to be good friends. But after listening 487 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: to your podcast, we felt like long lost brothers. Thanks 488 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: so much for all of the work you do. Listen. 489 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,719 Speaker 1: Food brings people together and it's important. And now I 490 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: want waffles and fantasyd op rad now, so it's gonna 491 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: be an interesting lunch time. Uh. If you would like 492 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: to write to us again, keep sending these light things 493 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: because they're good for the strangely depressing things I keep 494 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: focusing on as a little save at the end. 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