1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Legist podcast. I'm as Williams talking 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: about cup kids. That's right, I said, cupcakes and the 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: cupcake business and how lasting bonds can create great business partners. 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Let's listen to So we gotta Rack Pole the head decorate. 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: We got Griff the head baker, and then a third partner. 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: Is it Brian Henson? Is that the correct pronounce? That's correct? 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: Brian Henson and all of you guys went to ut together, correct, Yeah, 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: we all want to scool together. So when y'all were 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: the dorms, were you guys already baking stuff? I mean, 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: was this already? Now? You know what? Uh? I think 11 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 1: Rack tells it best, but I mean we were all 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: sitting around one day, was towards the end of my career. 13 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: We were talking about entrepreneurship, you know, being in the lead. 14 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: We know that the NFL does offer the opportunity to 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: business school and the coaching and things in that nature. 16 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: But the crazy thing is we were never hands on. 17 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: When you go talk about business, you can go to 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: business school, but being more hands on was the most 19 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: important thing. It was a small investment. You know. We 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: were very successful in the National Football League it was 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: a small investment, but the main thing was just learned 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: the business and and the business adventure and be hands on. 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: And I think the most important thing we got out 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: of it was as as football players being successful, it's 25 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: not easy, you know. It's that that one percent of 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: being able to make it to the National Football League. 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: And we understood that and with this business, we didn't 28 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: want to fail. And I think that's what helped all 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: three of us. And let alone, you don't want to 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: let your teammates down. Let alone, you don't want to 31 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: let down your friends. So that was the most important 32 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: thing is that you see a lot of guys that 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: getting the National Football League that starts businesses and things 34 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: with family members and things that nature. But you know, 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: we all invested our hard earned money into it and 36 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: from there we weren't gonna let this fail. And we 37 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: look at our cupcake shop as our baby being, our 38 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: pride and our joy, and you know, this is one 39 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: thing that we take so much pride into this business 40 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: and we at all costs and make sure we are 41 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: successful as we were on the National Football League. Hey, Brian, 42 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: what's the biggest difference? When did you gain the biggest 43 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: amount of fans from playing football after that commercial. Man, 44 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that commercial was gonna put us in 45 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: another stratosphere. Honestly, you know, I feel I'm a pretty 46 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: confident guy. I felt like, you know, we're we're we're 47 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,839 Speaker 1: some pretty well known football players for our time. But man, 48 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: they're commercial. I have the elderly people coming up to me. 49 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: You know, I'm thinking they're getting ready for an autography. 50 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: They want to you know, they called me the cupcake guy. 51 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: You know, Hey, you guys are the cupcake guys. Man, 52 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: I love your commercials and things of that nature. Mind you, 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm still playing. They don't hear about what I did 54 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: on Sunday. They want to, you know, they want to 55 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: talk about how did we get started in the cupcake business. So, yeah, 56 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: it's a whole another ball game. It's a whole different 57 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: fan base saying, uh, man, it's it's a blessing because 58 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: we we literally just wanted to be entrepreneurs and have 59 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: this would be one of our babies and grow to 60 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: do other things. But it's really taking the mind of 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: its own for sure. So hold hold on, bron you 62 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: guys started this business. You're still playing something like is 63 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: that correct. Yeah, yeah, he was just finishing up go ahead. Yeah, 64 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: but here's my question. All right, you know after the 65 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: commercial the cupcake guy, how did your defensive teammates handled that? 66 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: Just starting Look, that's that's how it is. That's why 67 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: you know, you know this better than anybody respect you know. 68 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't be a guy that's just on the fence 69 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: and doing cupcakes and playing at the same time. So 70 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of got a little leeway 71 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: just being who I am. Once the guys did their 72 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: little jokes here and there, then I sold him a 73 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: spreadsheet and then then like okay, yeah, now what you're doing, um, 74 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: and you know, and then you know, it's something to 75 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: brag about. It not really brag about, but it's something 76 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: to really be proud of, because you know, you're building 77 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: an empire outside of just a football field, you know, 78 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: and that's something that we we really wanted to take 79 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: initiative of, was doing something outside of the football field. 80 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, we're definitely proud of it. Definitely got a 81 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: little heat, you know, but uh but it was all 82 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: good until you know, they really seen the business side 83 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: of it. Alright, Michael Man, you the ferocious safety have 84 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: you had an opponent when you were still playing. Once 85 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: they saw the commercial, any opponent called you cupcake. You 86 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: know what it was? It was. It was all fun 87 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: and games until you know, you talk about how much 88 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: you got paid for the commercial, and then they realized 89 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: how successful you are. And I think, uh, I think 90 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: the funniest thing is when you say, you know, you 91 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: got that name on the back of your jersey and 92 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: you're associated with a team, but you get associated with 93 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: as a cupcake guy whatever. I think Rack Can attested this. 94 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: I mean the day before the Super Bowl, we were 95 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: in New York. We had this film, a Good Morning 96 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: America show, and we were standing outside of a nightclub 97 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: and they were looking This was before Corona and everything, 98 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: and they were like looking at us, and I remember 99 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: the bouncer walked up to and said, hey, we're like, 100 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: oh man, what we do? They're like, are y'all those 101 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: cup kid guys? And it was like, y'all come on in, y'all, 102 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: come on in. And then the piggyback that we go 103 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: to l A and we're standing outside this nightclub in 104 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: l A. And we were down there, you know, doing 105 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: some business, and again the bouncer guy, I guess he 106 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: was the host or whatever the party whatever. He comes 107 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: up to me and he walks and says, hey, you 108 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: look familiar. And I was like, man, I'm not even 109 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: from here. And he's like, nah, like I've seen you 110 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: somewhere before. I was like, man, I'm not from here. 111 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: From Texas. He goes, hold on, wait, y'all, donm cup 112 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: kid guys because the other big dude look a little familiar. 113 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: But y'all, donm cup dead guy, and then he starts 114 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: doing it like the need clap thing and everything else 115 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: on the age. Just you know, calm down a little bit. 116 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: And he like, y'all, come on, man, y'all face, and 117 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: it's just this is amazing, you know, walking on the 118 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: plane and stuff. No, you play a bar very sport. 119 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: But everybody, now, you know, puts that face and they're like, hey, 120 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: those the cup kid guys like and it's a cool story. 121 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: I mean kids, and you know, we should the whole 122 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: birthday parties and things and and it was amazing just 123 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: to see that, you know, people look at us like, 124 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, you can be whatever you want to be. 125 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: Doesn't necessarily have to be a football player and be 126 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: like a superhero. But you could do something that people 127 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: do every day and they can be just as positive. 128 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: So you have an upcoming especially on the Food Network Saturday, 129 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: February six, one pm Eastern on Food Network, streaming on 130 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: Discovery Plus beginning February six. Tell me about it. What 131 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: can viewers expect? Man, it's gonna see ourselves, you know, 132 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: us being ourselves. Um, you know, we we've been through 133 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: a lot, were tasted a lot of cupcakes, a lot 134 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: of sweets and things in that nature. And it's a 135 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: baking competent. If you know Austin. Uh, you know that 136 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: we're known for the food trucks. And with that being said, 137 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta have something that's gonna you know, 138 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: drive people to your business. Uh, we're just judging it. 139 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: We know we have a few contestants that you know, 140 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: have that family recipe has probably been in the family 141 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: for years and now they want to make a business 142 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: of it because they're strongly believe in it, and we're 143 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: just showing them the ins and outs of how to 144 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: run a business. I mean, we started from the ground 145 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: up and we worked our way into a brick and 146 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: mortar and you know they're trying to do the same thing, 147 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: have a food truck and possibly become big enough to 148 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: have a brick and mortar. So is it's a sweet 149 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: type of baking competition that can you get it done 150 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: inside the baking truck, but at the same time, can 151 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: you you know, sell it to the public and again, 152 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, it gotta be worth the while. You know, 153 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: you can't charge a lot of money for something that 154 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: doesn't taste so good or vice versa. You can't charge 155 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: to unless you gotta make a profit. So we're just 156 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: understanding the business aspect of running a business through a 157 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: food truck. What did you find most Brian challenging about 158 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: making a TV shoot? What's been maybe you know, I 159 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: think us professional athletes, I think we were always constantly 160 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: on the goal and you know we're just moving and 161 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: and and things of that nature. You know, with shows 162 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: and commercials, I mean it's in thirty minutes show or 163 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: or whatever it could be. You know, the commercial maybe 164 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: thirty seconds, but it takes a week or it takes 165 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of different cuts, and you know, it's a 166 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: bunch of breaks when we just want to go and 167 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: knock stuff out, but it's a lot of you know, 168 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: cutting the film up it's a lot of stuff behind 169 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: the scenes that we just had to get used to 170 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: and uh that that's probably the most challenging for me, 171 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: at least just sitting around when we could be just 172 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: knocking stuff out. I think the most what did you 173 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: have to work on? How about? I think the most 174 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: challenging for him was he had to jump right off 175 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: a flight from London straight in the film. Yeah. Yeah, 176 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: oh my god, I think that commercial take. How long 177 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: did it take, by the way, I think it's like 178 00:08:54,280 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: two days to three day Uh. Yeah, he landed at 179 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: seven o'clock that morning. We was trying to find an 180 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: outfit for him to wear, and then it was all 181 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: day that day. Then we went to another scene, then 182 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: we went to another scene. Then he had to jump 183 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: on a plane and shoot straight back in Nashville. So 184 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: I think that might have been the most challenging for him. Yeah, 185 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: I forgot about that, Yeah, griff a good point. Yeah 186 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: it was during the bye week, so serious. Yeah, I 187 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: don't got that much. I've got that much rest, So 188 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: you know, you're trying to knock stuff out. Let's been 189 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: a few times, a few moments talking about the time 190 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: in the business. How did you and your partner um 191 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: decide on this particular business. How did you guys decide 192 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: this one? Why? Yeah, well we all I think Griffin 193 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: alluded to it earlier. We are we always been just 194 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: we always hang out. Everybody, all the boys were live 195 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: in Austin. That's our that's our spot. I mean, all 196 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: the boys in the league. That of Texas. We live 197 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: in Awesome and there's not one guy that's not lives 198 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: out here. So we all hang out. Me, Griff and 199 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: Brian the other partner to hang out majority of the time. 200 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: And every single year, we always every off season, we 201 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: always eat dinner, hanging out like with the boys, and 202 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: we're always talking about different businesses and different things that 203 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: we want to do. We definitely wanted to be entrepreneurs. 204 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: You know, we've been structured the whole lives with football 205 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: and we wanted to kind of step outside of the 206 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: box and start, you know, leading the charge ourselves. There. 207 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: With me coming to Nashville, I was able to get 208 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: introduced to GS Cupcakes and obviously they're originated in Nashville. 209 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: Griff was still playing in Nashville. That was kind of 210 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: the blessing in the skies because they were obviously huge 211 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: fans being tightened fans. So we just decided one off season, like, hey, 212 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: let's do a cupcake shop. I know, I know it's 213 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: out of the box, but it's a low risk, high reward, 214 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: you know. We know GS Cupcakes hasn't um moved up 215 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: having located, and they don't have any locations in Austin. 216 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: Let's bring it out into Austin and and see what happens. 217 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: The guys loved it and we ran with it. We 218 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: started making our own phone calls. We didn't have assistance 219 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: and nothing. We were literally doing everything ourselves trying to 220 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: put it together. A long story short, I mean, we 221 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: we found uh some dirt in one of the centers 222 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: and we love the area, we love the spot, putting 223 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: some calls and we got the thing rolling from browned 224 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: up and here we are to day. Now, what made 225 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: you sign between as entrepreneurs a franchise or doing your 226 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: own thing? What were the factors in deciding that? Well, 227 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: when you look at doing your own thing, you know 228 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: again stepping outside the box with a franchise, they already 229 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: got a platform and they already have pretty much the 230 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: excess and os and and how to do everything. So 231 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: I think we were to do it again on we 232 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: branch out to do other things. Though we know how 233 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: businesses operate. We know, we know the whole game plan now. 234 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: Um And with the franchise, you know, they already had 235 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: every you kind of knew how they did things and 236 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: and it's just learning. And that was the best way. 237 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: You know, it was just apply something that's already been done, 238 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: that's already been successful. And Gus was already success, especially 239 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: in Nashville. So we went with the franchises because they 240 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: already had everything and and and and works. So we 241 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: just knew that we just had to follow those guidelines. 242 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: But it's funny as we were doing them and as 243 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: we just watching again, like you said, it was just 244 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: clearly just dirt. Um as we watched them build our 245 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: shot from the ground up, It's like, okay, we we 246 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: you know, I can actually build a building right now. 247 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: It's funny now because I mean we're building the house 248 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: and you know, just talking to them and they're saying 249 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: X and those and I'm like, no, I've been just 250 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: done this before. Like I know how the plumbing and 251 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: I know how this works. I know how this works, 252 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: I know how you bid this you bid that. So 253 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: all those things now just you know, you can apply 254 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: that going forward. So I think when you go to 255 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: business school, these are the things you don't learn. You 256 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: just know how to run the business. But you know, 257 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: now we had to go back and do it again. 258 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: There's ways here and there that we could have actually 259 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: saved some money here and there as we was building 260 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: doing our build out. So again it was just the 261 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: act that they already had a foundation and now that's 262 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: something that we can use going forward when it comes 263 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: to doing other businesses. I know Brian has a couple 264 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: of other things going on and things that they're just 265 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: so it it helps us branch off and do other things. 266 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: Because we we did it from the ground up. It 267 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: wasn't like, hey, we're opening this up. Hire somebody and 268 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: we're you know, poof, we're gone and just say hey, 269 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: we own it. No, it's it's been days. It's days 270 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: that we went in there at six o'clock in the morning. 271 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: I know there was one time where you know, hey, 272 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: let's get ahead. I'm up there at twelve am, one 273 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: am in the morning, baking and stuff, just to get 274 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: ahead because we may have been short staff. Being a 275 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: national football League. We could probably all attest this. We've 276 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: seen guys lose money and they don't know where what 277 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: happened to it. They have no rhyme and reason. And 278 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: that was the one thing again, like we said, we 279 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: pride ourselves and being successful the National Football League, being 280 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: successful young men, black men, and we want to continue 281 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: to be successful. We don't want to be one of 282 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: those guys that you know, thirty for thirty shows or 283 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: whatever it is. When you see people that are we 284 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: and the words of Brian, you know, he's being real 285 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: nice right now, but he said, you pull if you 286 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: got that camera, you gotta sit on that stool. That 287 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: ain't a good story you're about to tell. Work. We 288 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: worked too hard. I mean, as young men, you get 289 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: so much money so quickly, and you see a lot 290 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: of people that that when they're done, they don't have 291 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: nothing to show for it. And that was the one 292 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: thing that we want to make sure. We know the ends, 293 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: We know the outs. You know, we we we have 294 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: a weekly call with our manager. You know, sometimes we 295 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: just pop up. But at the same time, we knew 296 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: as football players, you know, we we we appreciate when 297 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: you get throwing a little bone here and there. So 298 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: you know Saturdays, Hey, what do y'all want for lunch? 299 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: And we'll send them lunch just so to keep them 300 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: motivating things that they're just so. It's again we understand 301 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: its teamwork. You know, we all work together if if 302 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: we if we are unsuccessful, we all are successful. They're unsuccessful. 303 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: We unsuccessful. We just know how it all works hand 304 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: in hand, all works together. How important is for I 305 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: just anybody thinking about business? How did you guys keep 306 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: your bond and it was and your bond together U 307 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: partlating to fruitfulness in a business because sometimes guys friends 308 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: and their college classmates in dubor detriment. How will you 309 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: guys able to work together? You gotta got it has 310 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: to be organic. Organic has to be genuine, I think, 311 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: and this is a same ass plug. But that's why 312 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: the University of Texas we're special. We're a special group 313 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: of men. Tell me why you say that. I know 314 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: you're saying and just tell me that what I mean 315 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: by that is I say that all the time being 316 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: to leave me and grouping for a long time, and 317 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: everybody is always jealous on how we we we a 318 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: Texas are from present, past or the future you know, 319 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: we know the route that it takes to get to 320 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: the NFL or in life in general, and we all 321 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: consider each other brothers. When I say that, is that 322 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: where when you start doing talking money in business, you 323 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: gotta go into business with your brothers, with people that 324 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, people that you started from the bottom with UM. 325 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: And if it ain't genuine, if it's all about me, me, me, 326 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: me me, it's not gonna work myself. Griffin Brian. Brian 327 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: obviously didn't go to the athletic route, but he was 328 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: still one of the boys. We always been close. It's 329 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: nothing that I can't tell them. There's nothing we can't 330 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: joke about, nothing that we can't be serious about UM. 331 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: And we just keeping one hunting with each other. I 332 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: think that's really really makes a great relationship. It's it's 333 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: actually an enviable relationship. Because as I listened to you 334 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: your bond you Michael and uh another brand, I think 335 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: about um Lebron James. He seemed to have developed that 336 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: bond with guys all the way from a childhood and 337 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: those bonds have parlaid in two man all of a sudden. 338 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: Now you gotta hild agent the whole collection of the 339 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: different giftings. Yeah, beneficial to the group, Yeah, definitely. I 340 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: mean it's it's it's a special bomb because again, you 341 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: talk about Brian Henson, you know, he's been in the 342 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: business world and and you know he's one of those 343 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: guys that you know, you know, you know, you had 344 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: that entourage back when you know, you played or whatever 345 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: it may be, and you have those guys is just 346 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: hanging onto the coattail. But again, you know, it's one 347 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: of those things with Brian Henson and having that that friendship, 348 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, to the table with his money where this 349 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: water open. You know, uh, when we did this business, 350 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: it was like, hey, we're doing everything split right down 351 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: the middle, you know, three ways. Even though no one 352 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: saw that that that Microsoft commercial, it was split three ways. 353 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: Even when we did the show that's coming up on 354 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: February six, you know, we say, hey, we're not doing 355 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: this unless little Brian is in there with us. You know, 356 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: we had our ups and our downs. But the one thing, 357 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: you know, I know Rack told one of our employees, 358 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: this shouldn't lose no friendship over no cupcakes. So so 359 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: you know that that's the one thing. The end of 360 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: the day, it's cupcakes. You know. And that's the one 361 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: thing that with with family and everything else, it's it's 362 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 1: more than cupcakes. It's a family. It's a true brotherhood. Uh, 363 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: it's a true friendship. Is genuine. It wasn't like, hey, 364 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: meet meet this guy over here and meet this It's 365 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: not nothing like that. It's one of those things like hey, 366 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: can you pick me up over It doesn't matter what 367 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: time and the day, what time in the night, it 368 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. If you know, if I see his wife 369 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: struggling with something, I'm gonna stop everything I'm doing to 370 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: go do that. He's gonna do the same thing for 371 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: my wife and my kids and everything else. It's a 372 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: real genuine friendship. Let alone. The kids call each other 373 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: uncles and things and that nature. So it's it's a 374 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: very genuine friendship. And I think that's that's one of 375 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: the things that makes this thing very special. How did 376 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: you guys end up connected with the commercial GIS cupcakes 377 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 1: with Microsoft? You know? They called up, Yeah, they called us. 378 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: They heard the story, um, and they heard the story 379 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: just like everybody else did, and they reached out the 380 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: blowing up our shop. Me and Griff, we don't really 381 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: like answering a lot of our you know, phone calls 382 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: and you get a lot of fluff. You know, everybody 383 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: knows that, so we we just blew it over. But 384 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: our manager actually is the one that took the initiative 385 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: to take it seriously. Um and then they we we 386 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: knew who it was and you can add on if 387 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: you want to do it, because they kept calling the 388 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: shop and somebody like wanted to come speak to us, 389 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I'll sit down 390 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: with him. Well, another guy that Rack knew contacted him 391 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: and was like, hey, Microsoft reached out, but we're trying 392 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: to get ahold of these guys. Rack knew him. But 393 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: they was trying to call the shop. Like he said, 394 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: we get calls all the time. So it was crazy 395 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: because I'm like, hey, I got this possible opportunity and 396 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: Rack was like, well I got one too. Well what 397 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: you got And it's like it's the same person trying 398 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: to reach But I'm you'd be some some of the 399 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: things that that come through that door and something phone 400 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: calls we get in. I mean, it was I guess 401 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: you gotta say it's a blessing the skies because I 402 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: mean we probably wouldn't even thought twice about it, but 403 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: it just it came from so many different angles. It 404 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: was like okay, and then again the hardest part was like, 405 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: all right, cool, we got a timeline. Think it was 406 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: like October. He was over in London. Hey, we gotta 407 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: film this now because we gotta get this commercial for playoffs. 408 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: We're like, okay, well, rack, when can you make it? 409 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: And it was it was all right, when we get here, 410 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: we're just going to shoot it. And again people don't 411 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: even believe. It's like there was no script. It was 412 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: just be yourselves, just go with it, be yourselves. So 413 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: there was absolutely no script when it came to that, 414 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: just be yourselves. So it's interesting in the business, it 415 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: looks like you also have to be aware of opportunities 416 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: you have, you have you got, you gotta be open. 417 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: You know a lot of times when you I tell 418 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: people this all the time and and now I've been 419 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: outside that bubble. But we all know it's professional athletes, 420 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: college athletes, you know, even high school athletes. You're you're 421 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: stuck in this bubble. And this bubble that you're in 422 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: is this bubble that you are around people that are 423 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: like you may not look like you may be different coach, 424 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: but we all have a common interest which is sports, 425 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: which is football. So I tell people like, you know, 426 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: it was hard. Like my neighbor, I've been living in 427 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: the same house and I've before I got out the lead, 428 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: I never spoke to my neighbor because I was in 429 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: this bubble. Like I get up, I go work out, 430 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: I trained, I speak to my teammates, I speak to 431 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: my coaches. And I had my wife and my kids, 432 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: other guys that went to University of Tech. That was 433 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: my bubble. We eat lunch, may hang we hang out 434 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: at night. It was our wives, our kids. But that 435 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: was the bubble I was in. But when I got 436 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: out the lead two years before I RACK, it was like, okay, 437 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: you know, everybody's busy. You know who do you talk to? 438 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: And then you can sitting out there in the front 439 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: yard and you're going to your kids school and somebody's like, hey, 440 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: how are you doing? Oh your Maya's father. Yeah, okay, 441 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: so you've been playing, I ain't seeing you. My name 442 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: is excellent. And then you start trying to develop and 443 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: meet new friendships and things in that nature. And even 444 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: with that, you know, more opportunities are just coming because 445 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's you know, and that was the thing. 446 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people need to take advantage that, 447 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: especially when you're playing, especially when're a high profile athlete. 448 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: You know, people are looking for opportunities. People are looking 449 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: for that next big thing, And I think that was 450 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: one of the things that maybe if we would open 451 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: our eyes up a long time ago. We always talked 452 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: about it, but maybe they probably would have been more 453 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: opportunities that would have presented themselves if I would have 454 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: got out of that bubble and just you know, gave 455 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: people opportunities of just you know, just speaking and just 456 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: being cordial and just having conversations. That's what each of 457 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: you guys would share with current players today, just what 458 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: you're saying right now. Most definitely, I definitely would um 459 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: because I'm I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum. 460 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: I hate meeting people. I mean, that's just me. I'm 461 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: not the best social person when it comes to even 462 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: people outside of my bubble, you know, But that's just 463 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: that's just come with the nature of the beach. We 464 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: get bothered with so many things. I wouldn't say bothered, 465 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: but it's it's it can be distracting when you're trying 466 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: to be you know, top of your craft, you know, 467 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: and I kind of erased that. But as you get 468 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: older and wiser, you start realizing that people have a 469 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: lot to offer, or maybe just a genuine friendship. You know. Overall, 470 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: I love football, Griff loves football. We all love football. 471 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: We've been doing it since when we're young. But at 472 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: the same time, you know, you can still be great 473 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: at your craft, but also you know, prepare for that afterlife, 474 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: like um, like majority of people, as we close out 475 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: and want to do a few rapid fires, and these 476 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: are This is advice for current players or even legends. 477 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: Here's the first thing. We have current players and legends 478 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: listening in. What would be your advice for guys in 479 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: finding their next chapter? The first question is when should 480 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: they start thinking about their next chapter? I would say, uh, 481 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: that's a good one because I understand that you know, 482 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: when you you know, when you go through that combine 483 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: and you're playing football, you at the top of your game. 484 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: But that offseason when you're trying to go to Cobbo 485 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: or Vegas or New York or whatever it is, you know, explore, 486 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: explore all the opportunities you know, take that time to 487 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: to start jotting down ideas. You see a lot of 488 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: people that leave this game unexpectingly, not on your terms. 489 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: Jot down ideas, you know, because it came never you 490 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: never know, you just never know. I've seen people that 491 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: a freak accident, you know, break a ankle or king 492 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: player cancuse. I've seen it. And again I just I 493 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: advise the younger generation, you know, jot down ideas. You know, um, 494 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: it's it's it's gonna be tough, you know, with this 495 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,239 Speaker 1: world today. So I advise people, don't put all your 496 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: eggs in one basket. I mean I know I did, 497 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: and I would say I did it. But you know, 498 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: I tell my son every day, I tell my daughters 499 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: every day. You know, every all, even though maybe you 500 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: know my flesh and my blood, we're all different and 501 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: everybody's past is not the same. So I would say, 502 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: you know, jot down ideas. And if you do have ideas, 503 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: if you're interesting in something exploring, see if you can 504 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: start doing your research and and start um figuring out 505 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: different chapters in life. You know, be prepared if that 506 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: if that one door closed, no one opens, but be prepared, 507 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: be one step ahead the late great coach Paul Brown. 508 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: He made a statement and he would share with the guys, 509 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: find your life's work. So even in being businessmen right now, 510 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: was there ever any passion where you, guys, since this 511 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: would we would do some type of business. Maybe you 512 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: don't know what it was as far as possibility of 513 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 1: your life for work. Yeah, yeah, I think it was. 514 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: I think we all, I think we both share the 515 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: passion for entrepreneurship just business in general. I think we 516 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: got tired, Like I said, we got tired of the 517 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: structured way of life. We got I got tired of 518 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: you know, it's just a point of time where you 519 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: get older material you want to be your own boss. 520 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: That's just me personally. Um, and I felt like we 521 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: did the homework, we did the research, and we put 522 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: the same amount of effort that we were put in 523 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: an off season working out to being a professional athlete. 524 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: We put that same amount of effort into being entrepreneurs. 525 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: And that's you know, that's one thing you can't take 526 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: away from us as athletes. Though we were gonna work 527 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: outwork you any day of the week, there's no way 528 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: you can't out work because we and we have that 529 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: that um advantage over people more than you know it, 530 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: and I think we used that to our advantage to 531 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: create what we wanted to do in life. But how 532 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: did you do it? Because some players, when they finished 533 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: that level of hard work in the league, they're like 534 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: unbutting they built. They don't won't ever work that hard 535 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: at getting something else. Hence why there's probably a huge 536 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: fail you rate because guys don't want to approach you 537 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: with that level of of diligence as we do in 538 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,239 Speaker 1: a game of football. How did you guys do it? 539 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: I think it was it's it's a motivational factor because 540 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: again when you talk about a friendship and you're talking 541 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: about a teamwork and things that made us successful. I 542 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: think the biggest thing was I wasn't gonna let Rack down. 543 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: You know, when we started this business, he was still playing, 544 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: and you know the one thing that we wanted to 545 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: make sure for him was listen. I've been there. I 546 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: I got up every morning and watched you. You know, 547 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: we we know what it took to to be successful 548 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: football players. And I know what you're going through. You're 549 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: in Nashville, I'm here in Austin. There's no excuses for 550 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: why I can't hold down the fort while you're gone. 551 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: And I think that also goes to Brian Hinton the 552 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: same way as I can't let him down the same 553 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: way he has at Hohle full full time job and 554 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: he's taking the time out of the day to do 555 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: his part of it. So I think that's what motivators was. 556 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let my teammate down. I'm not gonna 557 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: let my friend down. I ain't gonna let cut case 558 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: come between us, you know. And again you know, not 559 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: only do I got my money into it, but he 560 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: got his money into it too, And we know that 561 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: you know money. You know, money is the root of 562 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: all evil skin in the game, we call it, right, 563 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: So you know that was one thing is I'm not 564 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: gonna let you waste your money, but I ain't trying 565 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: to waste my money either, So I think that's another 566 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: motivational factor. One of the questions I had was about 567 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: how do you connect with people that you could trust. 568 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: That seems to be a challenge when when you're your 569 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: current player or even a legend. But I want to 570 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: repeat back to you, guys, because you've already answered the question. 571 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: All three of you guys including Brian Henson, had skin 572 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: in the game. Then I also heard of another wise 573 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: statement Brian you made you said, this investment, we didn't 574 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,239 Speaker 1: put all of our money into it. This was a 575 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: small portion of each of you guys, whatever amount of 576 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: money you have. You didn't put all of your eggs 577 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: in this basket. Can you speak to that why that 578 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: was so important? Well, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, it was. 579 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: I mean, we we wanted to we wanted to learn first, 580 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: We wanted to learn. We wanted to kind of groom 581 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: ourselves to do bigger and better things, and that's why 582 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: we went the franchise route. It was, like I said, 583 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: it was a small, low risk, high reward type of 584 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: mentality that we initially was going to do from the start. 585 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: You know, we could have definitely done a big facility 586 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: that cost millions of dollars. But we have no training, 587 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: we have no knowledge. We're literally just coming out of 588 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: the game, and that is the stupidest thing to do. 589 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: You have to start off again, say it again, because 590 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: so many, for whatever reason, yeah, make those huge, huge 591 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: mistakes that you guys were able to avoid. Yeah, we 592 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: I mean I say it all the time. You can 593 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: you can have the nicest facility. You can have the 594 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: nicest club restaurant, whatever the case, maybe the lights. Everything 595 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: is great. But if you have no knowledge, if you 596 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: have no no whereabouts with how to run run a business, 597 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: no staff, and you will fail every single time. So 598 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: my best advice would be Grip's best advice would be 599 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: to start small, learn it, learn the ins and outs 600 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: of running a small efficient business. And then once you 601 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: master that small business, that was very I mean it's 602 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: almost as if you as if you got fined in 603 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: the NFL game. I mean that's that starts small for 604 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: that amount, and then you start learning, you know ll LLCs, 605 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: you start learning how to run your staff, you start 606 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: learning how you know inventory, payroll, everything that comes with 607 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: running the business. I mean it literally pays off because 608 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: now from speaking from myself, g g has helped me 609 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: prepare propel me to do other and bigger things. I'm 610 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: about to get ready to run an e sports facility. 611 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: Now I gotta restore coming with a bunch of other 612 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,479 Speaker 1: things that I learned just from being hands on with 613 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: the small business I did with Griffin Bryant. I think 614 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: that the attested that and and the biggest thing exist 615 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: it's that investment part. You know. It's it's easy for somebody, 616 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: you know, these friends and things that come up to 617 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, the player that's working his tail off, that 618 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: has the money. Hey, I could do this, I could 619 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: do that, I could do this. I got a great idea. 620 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: But how much do they have invested in that? And 621 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing. I think the biggest thing, 622 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: and and the and the thing I think that really 623 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: made this bond so much stronger is that we all 624 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: got the same amount invested. You know, we all we 625 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: all invested equally, you know. And I think that that's 626 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: the biggest thing. And you know, he keeps saying small investment. 627 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm cheep that that that he they know me, I 628 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: ain't going nowhere when it comes They know how cheap 629 00:31:51,040 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: I am. It wasn't they had to come in me. 630 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: They still they convinced me about this house. They know 631 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: I stayed inside. I don't do all that. I'm cheap 632 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: and want Anyone who's interested in business or just want 633 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: to join a group of business people go to NFL 634 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: Legends Business directory dot com to request registration, which is 635 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: a resource for NFL Legends that own a business This 636 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: network provides elevator visibility for business opportunities within the NFL 637 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: it's members, clubs, and partners, and the broader NFL Legends community, 638 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: and includes network and opportunities and guidance on how to 639 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: achieve business goals. Saturday, February six, I want to get 640 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: the information out again. Saturday is February six, at one 641 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: pm Eastern on Food Network, streaming on Discovery beginning February six. 642 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see y'all again in your peak, Aprons. 643 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: We got you, my man. We got to appreciate it. 644 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. The best is yet to come. 645 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: This has been the NFL Legends Podcast. To provide feedback 646 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: or request a topic for discussion, email us at NFL 647 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: Legends at NFL dot com